Aug. 19, 2025

Bad Boys: Aaron Hernandez Part 6

Bad Boys: Aaron Hernandez Part 6
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In this episode, Jim Chapman continues the “Bad Boys: Aaron Hernandez series as Alexander Bradley's recounts the Boston Shooting to the defense lawyers and it gets HEATED!

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Hey everyone, and welcome back to Exposed Scandalous Files of

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the Elite. I am your host, Jim Chapman, and I

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am back with the sixth episode in this bad Boy

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series featuring Aaron Hernandez. Now, the last time that I

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left you, Alexander Bradley was being cross examined by the

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defense and they covered primarily text messages threats that Bradley

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was making to Hernandez, as well as some contradictory statements

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he had made during his grand jury testimony. So today

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we'll continue with the testimony of Alexander Bradley, and this

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time the defense attempts to tear apart Bradley's testimony that

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he gave to the prosecution regarding the shooting in Boston,

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and it gets very heated once again. Now you're gonna

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hear all that. Plus you're gonna hear what Bradley told

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police when he was questioned regarding those sheetings. And just

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like we've been doing with this episode, you won't hear

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from me after this. We're gonna play his testimony and

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then I'll see you in the next episode. So here

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is what that sounded like.

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Mister Bradley. This is the photograph that mister Hagen asked

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you to look at in reference to the city of

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Sin individuals. Do you recall that and to the city

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of individual mysterious group of individuals who wear these clothing. Jeh,

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that says city of Sin. I'm sorry, City of Angels.

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Excuse me, City of Angels, correct the attractions of her

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world at this stage, do you recall that mister Hagen

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show any of these photos and introducing them into evidence.

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I do believe I saw this photo. Okay, you do

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agree that exhibit this is Exhibit two eighty three, right, yes,

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that's Mark Jubi three. Okay, Now, I'd like to show

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you the rest of the photo with the actual writing

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underneath the photograph. Can you please read to the ladies

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and gentlemen of the jury what the caption is to

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that photograph.

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It says City of Sin, we got you homie at

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Aaron eighty one Hernandez, hashtag family First, hashtag the city team,

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hashtag get with me now, okay.

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To the ladies and gentlemen of the jury who may

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not understand the phrase we got you home, can you

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explain to them with that wound.

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I don't know what he meant by that what do

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you look at? What would you interpret we got your homie? Jah?

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Ask me, have you ever used that phrase we got

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your homie or I got you homie stained? Does that

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is what god a negative connotation in any way? Yes?

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Uh, sustine, If I said to you, I got your homie?

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Is that insult to you?

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Counsel, the witnesses interpretation is not necessarily the same as

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that author's interpretation.

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The attraction is sustained. H Do you see anything written

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in that caption? Sir? Do you see anything written in

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that caption sir that uh? You would interpret it as

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a negative estion? Sustined? Do you see anything negative in

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that caption section?

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It's the same question and sustained you try to judge.

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Okay, So now that I wanna take you back to

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July sixteenth, two thousand and twelve. Sorry, you testified yesterday

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that after leaving the garage, you guys walk you and

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mister Hernandez walked back to the car the the forerunner.

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Correct at which point you leave in the garage at

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the end of the night, approximately two twenty four a m.

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I believe that's correct. Okay, And you said that you

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were looking for girls at that.

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Time, I was waiting for the club to let out,

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in which the girls would be coming out of correct.

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And you testified that you were looking for girls in

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the garage. I did not testify that I was looking

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for girls to the garage. So when you went in

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the garage, were you looking for girls? I don't recall

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what I was doing when I went into the garage

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at that particular moment. Okay, After that, when they walked

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out of the garage, were you still looking for girls.

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At that point walking out of the garage. I believe

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we didn't walk to the car.

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Okay. My question to you, sir, is at this point

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in time. Oh well, let me ask you, by the way,

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did you pick up any girls that night? No? I

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don't recall picking up any girls that night. Do you

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know anyone who has long shoulder leith corn rowed hair?

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I know someone.

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Yes, there's that person in the world I know with. Okay,

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Now I was here. So are you asking me in Boston?

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I'm asking you anywhere? Yes? Okay. Now, did you meet

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up with that individual that night? No? Okay. Now, did

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you meet up with any women that night? No? Okay,

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Yet for the last hour you were pretty much looking

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for girls, right, I went to the club to look

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for girls. That was my intention. Kay, And the whole

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night you were looking for girls. You didn't you you

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didn't get lucky struck out. Okay. Now you testified that

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at some point Aaron said to you look fair they

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go and you guys got in the car meeting. Is

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that correct? He said, there they go, let's go. Okay.

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That's uh. Did you guys have a discussion at that

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point or or did you just go right in the

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car and go. We walked to the car, okay. Didn't

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you say anything to him? No? Okay, you just got

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in the car and drove right. Yes, I walked to

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the car and got in the car right. Yes, at

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some point a dree yes, shortly thereafter. Okay, Now you

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testified earlier too, and I apologized before I dit pep

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a little bit. But you testified earlier that you had

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gone around the corner and Aaron got the gun and

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put it in the club apartment, right, had a point, yes, sir, okay.

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And then after that you decided to go look for

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some girls. Yeah, the club, that's the street that the

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clubs are on. So yes, sir. So when when we

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returned back to that street. We went there. I went

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there with the intention to look for women when the

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club came out. Okay. So Aaron gets a gun, puts

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it in the glove box, and you're still thinking girls,

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right correct? Okay. Now at this point, after you get

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in the car, as you testified you didn't have any discussions,

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you start following the BMW.

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I pulled out.

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At first, I didn't know exactly what I was following

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until he gave me indication.

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Alright, and then you pulled up behind uh, another car

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and then went around it right, had to stoplight, correct, okay.

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And then Aaron directed you to run the red light. Right,

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He said, go go, go go. Where gunned it right? No?

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I didn't gun it faster? Okay. You looked both ways

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to make sure you won't try My cars are coming right, correct,

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and you start I proceeded, yes okay. And then you

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stopped at the stoplight where the BMW was. Yes, okay.

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And then he reached over and put his hand on

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your chest.

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Well before I got to stop at the stoplight. He

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did that as I was approaching the car. So so

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we learned.

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How to complete stop. In other words, when he did.

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That, and at this point you then hit the uh

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electronic button on the recliner. Right, Yes, well, approaching the

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car clind to see okay, as you went, then he

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went back right. Yes, you testified that Aaron stuck his

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hand out the window, and I'm showing the jury and

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you exhibit three hundred, right, you see that. Yes, I

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do see the picture, ladies and gentlemen the jury yesterday. Yes,

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I said he extended out the window, I said, And

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in fact you cleared up mister Haagen's statement by saying

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his hand was even a little bit closer to the inside, right. Yeah,

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he didn't pay it that far out the window.

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Okay.

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So when you exhibit two ninety five, did you place

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the car and park at that time? No? Okay, So

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this photograph where you see the gear shift and park

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there all the way to the front, it wasn't like that. No,

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I didn't park the car. My foot was on the brick. Okay. So, sir,

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yesterday you told the ladies and gentlemen of the jury

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that when the whole spilled drink thing happened, you were

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the peacemaker. Kay. I didn't used the phrase peacemaker. You

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weren't there for that, right, that's better okay. And you

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didn't want to any trouble right mm correct, And you

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didn't go out for any trouble correct okay. And you

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were also you cared about er correct, you didn't wanna

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see him gett in any trouble. Correct again kay.

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And yet two hours later you're good to go with

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seeing Eric get a gun, put it in the glove box,

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take it out, and then you start driving to chance

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to be another.

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Right correct okay. And you're okay now two hours later

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with running the red light to go shoot some people

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or scare them.

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Not correct.

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There you go, Okay, there you go, and you're okay

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with that.

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I was okay with the thought that he is.

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You're also okay with lowering the sea by answer let.

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The witness finish finish his answer, please. You're also okay

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with hold back, right, mister Bias, holdan has finished your

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last year.

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You know, as I was saying, mister Bias, I was

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okay because I never expected mister Hernandez to shoot those individuals.

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Of course, Now you're okay now with lowering your seat

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back too, right after he told me watch out, Yes, okay,

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And you testify that when he said, there they go,

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there they go, you're gonna say anything to Eric, right,

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he said, there they go, there they go, let's go.

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And you didn't say to Aaron, there who goes?

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He was already walking towards the car.

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No. Right question to you, sir, is you didn't ask

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him there who goes? No? I didn't be You hadn't

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seen these guys and over two hours, correct, kay? So

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after not seeing some guys for two hours, that thing

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you're off looking for girls, that thing is completely out

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of your mind. You're just following orders.

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Right, I'm leaving with my friend. If he's saying let's go,

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whose car belongs to him? If he's saying let's go,

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and he's going towards the car and it's his car,

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and I'm down there in his car two sixty plus

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miles from home. Yes, the car which you've driven many

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times on your earth, right, depends on which you would

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define many.

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But I've driven it, yes, okay?

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And at times you borrowed that car many times too, right,

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I wouldn't say many. Now I'm for borrow that cars.

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I had a shooting. I have driven the car and

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even after the shooting you've driven it car right?

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Mm wrong?

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Okay, well way light off in a minute. I don't

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wanna bounce bounce it too, Mason uh areas. But m so,

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now you're no longer the I don't wanna use the

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word piece maker, because that's my word of yours, right, correct,

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you're no longer not about that. You're a pustat right

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yes and sustained rephrase you now, Okay, you're not attempting

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to diffuse mister Aaron Hernandez right at that point, No,

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because you're not telling him you're calmed out. It's the answer.

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You may finish for your answer. Thank you.

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As I was saying, mister Biaz, no, I wasn't trying

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to diffuse anything because I'll repeat again, I didn't think

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that mister hernandis or going to shoot those individuals.

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Okay, mister Bradley. With my question to you, mister Bride,

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is that you didn't tell him calm down there?

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Am I answer to you, mister Bias, like I just said,

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was no.

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That's all That's what I was looking for now, Sir,

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you testified a moment ago that Aeron's hand was out

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the window even a little closer correct, correct, I believe. So, okay,

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do you remember telling the ladies and gentlemen of the Grand.

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Jury transcript from twenty fifth.

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On October twenty fifth, twenty and thirteen one being asked

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and once he pushed you aside, describe again for the

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grand jurors, page twenty seven, lines five through twelve, And

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once he pushed you aside, Describe again for the grand

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jurors what he did next? And you gave the answer,

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he extended his body out the window. You know, he

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leaned all the way across. Correct. Okay, Yeah, this is

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not extending your body out the window, right.

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Wrong.

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That's your hand right with your arm which is on

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your body, that's putting your body out the windows. So

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you're not qualifying your answer that he didn't have his

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body out the window.

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You just had his hand, I cause you're qualifying him,

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you know, and sustained as to the form you're now distinguishing, sir,

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or clearing up that when you say.

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Body out the window, you only mean a hand, right.

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I'm confirming that he had his body out the window.

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To me, that's his body out the window, their personal witness.

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You might showing you.

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Two photographs, sir, do you see that uh a gentleman, uh,

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I guess extending his body out the window of the car. Yes, okay.

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Is that a fair and accurate representation of what we're describing.

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No, it's not a fair and accurate representation. What we're

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describing is the photo that I'm looking at.

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Of someone extending their body out the window. Yes, and

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I'll show you what sidebar? Sir. Do you recall telling

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making the statement that he extended his body out the window? Yes?

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I do, okay. And after you made that statement, the

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police went and took photographs of an individual extending his

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body out the window. Recall that, uh, you know, the

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attraction is overhrald is to that question, do you recall

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that I recall and being shown some pictures later of

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the police. You recall being shown the photographs I just

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showed you, correct, okay? And then after some discussion you

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told them, no, that it was his hand that was

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out of the way. No, it's not true. Do you

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know if this safe? If if this uh session that

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you have with the police.

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Was recorded, it may or may not have been. I

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believe it was, Okay.

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Did they have a tape recorder a place it on

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the table, it said, I believe I recall a tape recorder, yes, okay.

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And I said to you that everything you were saying

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is must be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing.

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What's the trodction?

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Uh over old?

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Yes? Kay? And of course you wanted to leave truth

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to and sell him everything you knew, right. I was

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truthful him and told him everything that I knew. My

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question to you is you wanted to be truthful to

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tell him everything you knew, right, yes, in which I did.

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And that's that was my next question. And you did

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that right, correct, okay. And if you didn't do that,

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of course you know that you lose your deal, correct,

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your deal of a lifetime right injection sustained. Now, were

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you told at all at that point in time not

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to say how he had his body at out out

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the window?

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I was never told what to say at any time?

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Okay. So yesterday, well, I'm sorry. The day before yesterday

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you said that Aaron Hernandez had shot the gun five times, right, correct,

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m And when you were quite clear about that, right correct? Kay?

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And this is something that you just have in your

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memory hearing five shots right, correct? And in fact you

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can you were able to distinguish the difference between five

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shots and six shots, right, correct, because you said five shots, right.

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I believe at one point I said five or six

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and five as well.

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I know you know where I'm going. But I my

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question to you, sir, you actually that at some point

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a question to the witness without commentary, when you've testified

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to the jury, you told them five shots, right.

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Yes, I recall saying five or six shots as in

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in a testimony as well, So I'll repeat the question.

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But but I don't think you're understanding.

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When you testify to the jury, you said five shots

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to the jury.

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I believe s so you believe so, yes, I believe.

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So you were unequivocal. You said absolutely you said five.

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You didn't say five or six? Right, I said five?

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Correct? All right? Now, the first day that you spoke

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with law enforcement and you gave your profit under that letter,

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do you recall being asked how many shots do you

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think were fired? And you answered, oh, that gun has

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six bullets, so he had to fire every bullet in there.

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Did you hear the next question? How many did you hear? Answer? Six?

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Probably six? About six? Question? Okay, do you remember that?

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I believe I said that gun holds six shots.

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No, your exact words was, oh, that gun has six bullets. Right?

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If those are my exact words, than yet. Let me

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show you though, So if we don't hit, that'd be better.

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Thank you, may, pursuiz you may. I'm showing you your

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statement on October eighth offer that was based on a

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profit letter for which you were ultimately granted immunity. There's

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an answer highlighted in the line twenty and twenty one. Yes,

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those are my words. Accurate, okay, And accurate.

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Means oh, that gun has six bullets, right, correct, So

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we had to fire every bullet in there?

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Right? You said that, correct, those are my words. Now.

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You also said that after the the gun was fired,

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you heard the clicking sound, meaning, uh, the trigger was

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pulled multiple times after right? Correct? And you're aware that

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the three fifty seven magnum that you bought had six bullets, right. No,

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I don't believe that. I know definitely has six bullets.

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But yet you made the statement, oh, that gun has

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six bullets.

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It's probably a discrepancy. I believe I meant to say

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the gun holds six bullets.

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Okay, So you want to retract your statement from the

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from the profer.

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Projas sustained answer to the term retract.

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Okay, you want to amend your answer from the profer

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Jackson now over old. I didn't ask to amend my answer.

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I believe I just said it may have been a

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discrepancy mistake. In fact, it was a discrepancy, right. I

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don't know it was testified, uh, in front of the

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grand jury and this jury. But it was five shots, correct,

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I did. Okay, So somewhere between the profer and the

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grand jury, you went from five shots knowing the gun

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carried six ID I'm sorry, six shots knowing the gun

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carried six down to five correct. And the police didn't

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tell you we've only recovered five bullets.

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People say it's five correct. Police didn't tell me that.

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Okay. And mister Hagen when asking you to come forward

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an and uh, i'll tested by this jury, make sure

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you tell them it's five shots. No, mister Hagen never

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said that to me prior to your testimony here, sir,

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how many times did you meet with mister Hagen. I

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don't know an exact amount. Usually I I wanna say

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more more than three.

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I'll say about I I would guess six maybe five

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or six times, five or six, six times.

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I'm guessing five or six times, and only three of

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them were recorded.

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Uh, I don't know how many were recorded.

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Uh. Each time when you sit down to take reporter,

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they advise you, do you see that they report on

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the table? Right? I believe so, And they say to you,

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do you understand you're being recorded? Right? Right? Okay? And

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somehow after the prophet which was recorded, your next statement

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is that it's five shots. Right. I believe I make

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a statement of five shots at some point. Okay. But

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there is nothing that you point to, nothing that you

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can point to after you made this statement to the

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police that the gun has six shots and they and

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they probably fired all six. Nothing that you can point

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to that can justify the change to fire, Right, I.

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Can, And.

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No overruled my memory. So your memory gets better with time, right,

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Oh it does, absolutely so. Four years later down the road,

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your memory is much better now, right, And a lot

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of aspects, Yes, just like you remembered Aaron taking a

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photograph of the fan, right. I thought we went over

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the fact that it happened in the back room and

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I wasn't there, so I can't remember something I wasn't

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there for just like you testified you remember seeing mister

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Debray and mister Sachez cross the street going to the

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other bar. Right, testify that I believed that they crossed

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the street. They never said definitively. And now, of course

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you you want to clear off that it is definitely

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five shots right. Objections of want clear off sustained.

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Yeah.

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Now after the shooting, you testified that you made a

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wrong turn. You went to the right correct, correct, and

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down that streets on on the way street right correct,

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So you're driving down the wrong side of the road

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four a split second, yes, okay. And then you made

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a U turn and came.

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Back, made a U turn that stopped at the light.

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Okay, And there you are stopped at the corner.

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See I mightn't ye have approached shirt who a lot

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of that that? Okay, So well, the so we're all clear.

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You ran this light right here right to catch up

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to the BMW right here.

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I don't know the exactly by streets, I don't know,

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but I did go through a light to catch.

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Up with you. See this big blow up right here

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that says the intersection of Shaman Avenue at Harold Street. Yes, okay,

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you see the goings to a very big really not yes? Right, okay,

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you recognize this is a bridge, right, yes? Okay. You

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see a crosswalk right there? Yes, okay, fair to say

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that that's a k stop light that you ran before

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you caught up to the B ANDW.

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And it appears to be the light I've wring I

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went through.

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Yes, okay, So you ran this red light to catch

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up with the car right, correct? Okay, Then you turned

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right down Harold Street after the shot to fire correct

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after the shots? Yes, okay, you're now exposed as having

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shot at a car.

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Correct. I didn't shoot at the car.

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Okay, Well you're now exposed. People are seeing that car

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right the fore runner weld, i'd imagine. Okay, then you

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make a U turn and drive right back right. No,

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I was at a red light when I made the

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U turn. The light was red. The light right here

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is red right right, So I'm sitting at the red light.

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You're sitting at the red light, and everything is and

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people are coming out of the car. Right. Yes, you

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saw a taxi go by, ah.

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I said, I saw a taxi cat man raise his

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head out of the car.

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And people are now starting to come to the scene, right, correct.

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Some individuals got out the car and then car put

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it up behind and it never cursed you. Hey, I

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ran this red light. Maybe I should crumb this one.

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No, it didn't.

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You stood there and stay there the entire time for

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the red light to turn green. It turned green right away,

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pretty much. And then you'll learn, yes, now drove through

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the intersection. Correct. Now, you testified that you got lost

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after that, right that Aaron started using his GPS. Yes,

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he started GPS. Yeah, and you were called telling the

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police that Aaron. Uh that Aaron didn't make any phone calls, right,

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I don't believe he made phone calls, Okay, And that's

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because he was using the GPS.

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Right, Yes, at a point he was using the GPS.

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And it's just you two alone in the car right

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then and there, right correct, And you're you know, you're

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there's no one else there. There's no one else there, okay,

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and you and he's guiding you with the GPS.

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Right at a point he starts guiding me with the GPS. Correct.

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Because although you've been to Boston three times a week

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for a year and a half, you still didn't know

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how far anyway, answer.

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It, Uh, sir Stine, We've already covered this cancel.

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Okay, now, HM, are you aware, at least make you

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aware that Aaron made a call at two thirty seven

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just overworld. No, they didn't. They could front you with

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that evidence. No, okay, they didn't tell you. Hey, the

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statement you made to us when you said, no, I'm

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pretty sure he didn't make any calls because we were

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using his GPS telling me where to drive and where

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to go. He said, I'm pretty sure, yeah, And you're

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pretty sure today he didn't make a call. I don't

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recall I'm ever making a call at that point. And

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of course you would have been in the car to

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have known if he made a call, right, I was

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in the car with him, Yes, okay, howle was gone.

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It was purchased by you, right correct, And that was

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done on another day, right correct. Okay, your immunity deal

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only covers your act, your actions on July sixteenth, correct? Correct? Okay,

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did you get arrested or prosecuted for purchasing a firearm

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for mister Hernandez. No, you didn't get arrested for dealing.

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And do you have convicted felon selling firearms?

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No, I didn't.

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Okay, So to this date you haven't been charged with that. Correct,

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not by mister Hagen, so correct, and not by anybody

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in Connecticut. Correct again, And you said you bought it

470
00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:07.440
from a guy named Jamar. Right, I don't.

471
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:10.960
Recall who I got the gun from.

472
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:12.000
Your testimony today? Serious, you don't recall who you got

473
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:13.240
the gun from.

474
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:15.559
I don't remember exactly who I got the gun from.

475
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:26.079
Kay, Yeah, a moment such you may Jamar. You know

476
00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:30.480
a guy named Jamar? Yes, I do know what Jamar? Okay,

477
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:34.039
and his name is Jamar Duro? Did Jamar know? I

478
00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:36.119
don't know his last name. You don't know his last name?

479
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:39.759
You know him as Rock? Right? I do know what Jamar?

480
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:42.680
Who do you call rock? Correct? Kay? Kaya goes by

481
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:46.440
the same nickname you go by, fuck Jackson A.

482
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:51.599
No, you may answer and false, I don't have a nickname.

483
00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:54.200
Oh, you're Rocky?

484
00:32:54.359 --> 00:33:00.599
There you go. Okay, he's Rocky, You're Rocky? Right? Rocky? Right? Actually? Okay?

485
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:27.960
What eight questions? I'm a directing counsel to the October

486
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:32.039
eighth proffer by mister Bradley. Mister Bradley, do you recall

487
00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:35.720
it being asked a question? Okay, And the silver firearm,

488
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:41.000
the silver revolver paid on line twenty page, page thirty six.

489
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:45.319
The silver revolver you talked about do you know where

490
00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:51.720
that came from originally? And you answered, yes, where I

491
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:57.319
got it from him? I got it for him. The firearm, Okay,

492
00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:00.279
where did you get it from? I got it from

493
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:06.559
a friend of mine in Bristol. Question, okay, who is that? Answer?

494
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:10.960
A friend of mine that we call Rock. His first

495
00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:14.039
name's Jamar. I don't know his last name.

496
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:18.199
If that's what this If that's what it says there,

497
00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:19.920
that's what I say, and that's.

498
00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:25.440
What I believe you if you say it's there. Okay.

499
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:29.280
So when you testify to the jury, did you didn't

500
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:32.639
know where you got that gun from? That's not true.

501
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:35.119
Where is the sir? I didn't just say to the jury,

502
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:38.800
I don't know where I said. I don't recall that.

503
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:41.159
You didn't recall where you got that gun from. That

504
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:53.199
was correct, I don't rejection is sustained rephrase.

505
00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:00.599
You didn't recall when you testified, Sai, these ladies and

506
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:05.159
gentlemen moments ago, where you got to come from? Right?

507
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:11.280
I just told the jury that I don't recall who

508
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:13.079
I got to going from fought.

509
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:15.800
On October Aid two thousand and thirt thirteen, and when

510
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:17.840
you needed to get that deal and you made that

511
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:19.920
proper direction that needed to get the deal.

512
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:25.079
Put the question, you did recall who you bought the

513
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:26.719
gun from?

514
00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:28.880
If that's what it says there, If that's what I said,

515
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:31.119
then so the answer to my question is yes, sir

516
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:33.960
at the time, then yes, if that's what it says.

517
00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:37.599
So contrary to what you said a moment ago, your

518
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.039
memory doesn't get better with time, doesn't, sir?

519
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:44.519
I just said certain aspects of it. That was my testimony, sir.

520
00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:49.840
Uh in this case, in this situation, this specific instance,

521
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:52.599
your memory didn't get better at time, did it, mister Bradley?

522
00:35:52.880 --> 00:36:07.000
Apparently not, mister Bias. So, subsequent to this situation subsequence,

523
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:12.000
did you given this statement, did you lose your immunity deal?

524
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:16.880
Subsequent to give in what statement? Not being able to

525
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:19.239
recall information that you're given previously?

526
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:21.320
Well, I guess that means I would have to have

527
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:23.199
lost my deal right now? Is that what you're saying?

528
00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:24.760
Cause I just s if.

529
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:28.159
After making that statement or not being able to recall,

530
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:29.639
did you lose your s your here.

531
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:32.199
Are you you just ask me right now, mister Bias.

532
00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:38.719
Were you not subsequent to that? If you recall, no,

533
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:39.280
I wouldn't.

534
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:40.440
I haven't been asked Ivonco.

535
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:44.480
So are you aware that Jamar Durham is friends with

536
00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:53.280
Jaylen the Israels. I don't know what Jamar Durham Jamar Rockener. Well,

537
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:57.679
you're speculating that discoat that is with Jaylen the israms. Kay,

538
00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:01.440
you're speculating that, did you Tamar you're talking about is

539
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:04.639
the Jamar that I know. I already told you I

540
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:09.559
don't know what Jamar Durham. You just inform me of

541
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:13.119
a Jamar Durham and askings. What you're trying to do

542
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:15.559
is make me tell you that I know who you're

543
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:17.679
talking about, and I don't know what Jamar Durham.

544
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:20.679
I'm asking you a specific question, mister Bradley, and that is,

545
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:25.519
do you know that Jamar Rock as you call him,

546
00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:28.639
knows Jlndia pros.

547
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:32.519
No. But you said Jamar Durham the first time? Okay,

548
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:45.360
Now do you recall testifying that, Uh huh, I'm sorry.

549
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:47.159
Let me let me just strike that me praise that

550
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:50.079
on October eighth, when you gave your proffer to get

551
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:53.800
your deal. Do you recall telling the police that you

552
00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:58.119
arrived after five in the morning at Brooke Wilcox's house.

553
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.480
I believe I said I arrived sometime around five in

554
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:06.400
the morning. Okay, keep showing my exact worst place.

555
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:28.199
Yeah, Age d Birks, you wait as you may. Council

556
00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:39.199
had pay sixty six, line nine, like right about five,

557
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:43.800
right at five in the morning. We'll we'll uh introduce

558
00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:54.639
the statements to be there. Question okay, And and you

559
00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:57.840
said you got there at what time? And your answer

560
00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:01.480
it was right after five in the morning, like right

561
00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:04.119
about five, right at five in the morning. Do you

562
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:05.079
recall giving that answer?

563
00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:09.519
I recall you're right about five, little after five.

564
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:12.639
In the morning. My question to you, do recall giving

565
00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:13.119
that answer?

566
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:14.440
And I just answered you yes, sir.

567
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:17.519
I want to use the exact words please that you

568
00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:21.719
gave the police. I'm going to repeat the answer, and

569
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:25.440
it really just calls for a yes or no answer.

570
00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:28.800
It was right after five in the morning, like right

571
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:33.039
about five, right at five in the morning, correct, okay?

572
00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:35.840
And then the next question, all right, now, the shooting

573
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:38.679
happened just around two thirty. That's two and a half

574
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:42.599
hours that's yeah, two and a half hours, right, And

575
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:46.079
your answer is right. And the question is it doesn't

576
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:50.760
take that long to get to Connecticut and your answer is, oh,

577
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:53.639
there were no other stops sir in between? Do you

578
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:58.800
recall giving those statements? I believe that's what I said. Okay,

579
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:04.480
you agree it doesn't take two and a half hours, right, correct,

580
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:08.400
So there's an hour of unaccount it's time for that.

581
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:13.800
The police are not questioning me about, right, projection straight form,

582
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:16.320
there's an hour that the police are questioning you about

583
00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:20.079
after this, correct, there's an hour that the police are

584
00:40:20.119 --> 00:40:22.719
questioning me about. Yes, because it doesn't it takes It

585
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:25.000
doesn't take two and a half hours to get from

586
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:30.679
Boston to Connecticut, especially at two thirty in the morning, right, Yes,

587
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:33.760
it's not rush hour. No, it's not rush hour. Okay.

588
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:42.360
So you then tell the police that there were no stops, right, Yeah,

589
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:46.159
I didn't recall any stops, okay. And you told us

590
00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:51.920
that you Aaron was using the GPS, right, correct. Okay,

591
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:55.280
So there's an hour of time that you've yet to

592
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:57.559
account for. Correct.

593
00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:02.719
Well, let presupposes how long it does take to get

594
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:04.679
to Connecticut. What if you were staff.

595
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:06.480
Warders how long does it take to get to Connecticut

596
00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:08.639
at two thirty in the morning from Boston, Sir?

597
00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:15.079
At least probably hour forty five minutes to two hours, Okay,

598
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:17.400
not an hour and a half.

599
00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:22.880
If you're speed. If you're speeding, you can't get you

600
00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:25.440
an hour and a half and he's flying. Yeah. And

601
00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:29.840
it's your testimony then that you went to Brook wilcox house, right, correct,

602
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:33.800
And so you get to Brooke Wocox's house and you

603
00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:38.840
said you were in shock, remember testifying about that, yes,

604
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:41.920
and that she noticed you were in shock, and that

605
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:47.800
you then told her that Aaron had just shot two people, right, correct?

606
00:41:48.320 --> 00:41:50.679
And you said that right in front of eron right.

607
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:55.119
I said it within earshot of earring. Yes, he was near.

608
00:41:55.199 --> 00:41:57.760
He was a farm away, within hearshot. And he had

609
00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:02.840
never met Brook Wilcox before. Patty, I don't know. I'm

610
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:04.880
not I can't recall it if you met Brooke will

611
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:06.960
house before or now. Do you recall telling the police

612
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:08.800
that you think this was the first time he ever

613
00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:13.039
met her. I don't recall if that was the first

614
00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:16.400
time you ever met her. My question she was do

615
00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:20.199
you recall telling the police that this was the first

616
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:21.840
time or you think that it was the first time

617
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:26.119
she ever met him. No, I didn't recall that, Okay,

618
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:35.719
but if it's there, I believe I said it. So

619
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:38.119
you wanna argue what that's saying that if if you

620
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:39.880
have it, if it's in there, I believe I said it.

621
00:42:57.079 --> 00:43:01.159
I'm going to uh direct council to the same statement

622
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:08.119
page sixty eight. Does the question on line eleven does

623
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:11.639
she know Aaron? Answer? Yeah, she knows him. That might

624
00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:14.119
have been the first time she ever met him. Do

625
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:15.480
you recall making that statement, sir?

626
00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:18.920
Yeah, that's what it says, that it might have been.

627
00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:24.559
Okay, So at the very least he doesn't know brook Well, right,

628
00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:30.960
that's a fair statement. They're not tight like you and him. Correct, Okay.

629
00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:36.440
And here you decide to tell her that Aaron Hernandez,

630
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:39.679
the professional NFL football player, just committed a double homma

631
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:44.920
side in your presence, within earshot of Aeron Hernandez. Correct.

632
00:43:56.360 --> 00:43:59.440
Then you were soda shocked. You went upstairs and had sex.

633
00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:04.079
I was already upstairs. I went into the room with her, okay.

634
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:09.239
And then you guys had sex, right, something of that sort, correct, Okay?

635
00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:20.920
And then you testified late uh yesterday that Aaron's uh

636
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:25.440
phone had died, right, Yes, his phone died of Aquin okay.

637
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:31.519
And you said that he began to ask for I

638
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:35.360
guess Brooks laptop to use the runt searches on the computer. Yes,

639
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:42.000
he asked to use the laptop. And do you recall

640
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:46.920
telling the police, sir, that Aaron was searching for the

641
00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:53.639
news on his iPhone on his iPhone? Yes, his iPhone, well,

642
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:57.239
on h iPhone? About his iPhone? She will show it

643
00:44:57.280 --> 00:44:59.400
to me please. My question to you is do you

644
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:01.719
recall No, I don't, sir. You have to wait until

645
00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:05.400
I finished my answer. I might question mister. Okay he

646
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:08.800
recalled telling the police that Aaron was searching for the

647
00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:09.440
news on.

648
00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:14.119
His iPhone on his iPhone, Yes, I don't recall shying it.

649
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:22.519
Okay.

650
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:28.519
This is on the October eighth profer question the shooting

651
00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:32.039
was being shown on the news? Answer? Yeah, yeah, the shooting.

652
00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:35.199
I think he might have even used his like he

653
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:39.679
was googling the news Boston news with the iPhone that

654
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:43.039
he had or I'm pretty sure it was an iPhone

655
00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:45.800
or whatever the phone he had that he had. Do

656
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:49.119
you recall making that statement, sir? Yes, I do recall

657
00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:53.320
making the next day, so you told them that he

658
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:58.679
was running he was searching on his iPhone, right, Yes,

659
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:03.559
he was searching on an iPhone, on his iPhone on

660
00:46:03.599 --> 00:46:08.039
the phone that he had, yes, correct, Okay, But yesterday

661
00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:09.760
he told the ladies and gentleman of the jury that

662
00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:14.400
his phone was dead, right if I told him that yesterday?

663
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:17.119
And that's because the police told you that there are

664
00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:20.320
no searches on on Aaron Hernandez's iPhone for for the

665
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:22.559
news on that line jection, I've seen you.

666
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:25.880
Uh no, you may answer that question.

667
00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:28.239
No, the police told you that. Well, he didn't tell

668
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:33.119
me that. Okay. Well, I suspect if there are new

669
00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:36.679
searches that will we'll see them at some point. Now

670
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:39.440
let me ask you this though, uh sustained answer to

671
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:45.880
that commentary. You also testified that it's well you remember

672
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:48.519
saying his phone was that right? Yes, his phone down.

673
00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:56.599
At the point I could have a moment, judge, I

674
00:46:56.840 --> 00:47:08.480
apologized moment wanted to leanness while we're actually actually does

675
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:12.920
while we're well, well, that's be done. You testify all

676
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:14.440
I want to go to put the ladies and general

677
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:15.599
in the jury that you didn't.

678
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:19.480
Know Jamar Durham, Right, I don't know Jamar's last name Durham. No,

679
00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:22.039
I don't know if the Jamar day I know his

680
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:22.639
last name is.

681
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:32.400
Durhams decribed it. We left off, Hm, discussing the differences

682
00:47:32.519 --> 00:47:36.440
between what you call the police that Aaron was searching

683
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:39.880
on his iPhone and the statements you made to the

684
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:45.000
jury about Aaron's iPhone views. That's right, remember that, correct,

685
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:48.280
That's where we left those from. Okay, wh willcous doesn't

686
00:47:48.280 --> 00:47:50.920
have a nifone charger at her house. She does have

687
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:53.400
an iPhone charge Okay, and that was never used because

688
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:58.960
of course's phone died, right, his phone died? I mean

689
00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:01.159
said why I thought his phone was dead?

690
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:03.760
His phone down to the point cooct Okay.

691
00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:11.519
Oh Hm, I'm now showing you Exhibit.

692
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:15.519
Two forty nine to eight that's been entered in the evidence.

693
00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:23.760
It's Eric's phone records. I wanna point out a couple

694
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:29.840
of things to you, okay.

695
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:42.719
Okay, Moon yet high lighter year to point to point

696
00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:43.760
out the certain areas port.

697
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:47.239
Do you see the dates here since July sixteenth, two

698
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:50.559
thousand twelve. Guess I do? Okay, that would have been

699
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:54.480
the day of the shooting. Correct, correct? Okay, do you

700
00:48:54.519 --> 00:49:01.079
see the times here starting from twelve thirteen for twenty five,

701
00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:07.880
one thirteen, one, twenty five through thirteen. See that, yes, yeh.

702
00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:11.119
As we go down further two twenty five, let's see

703
00:49:11.159 --> 00:49:14.599
fifty four three or four? See that? Yes?

704
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:21.119
See uh D thirteen yes, D thirteen yes, four thirteen yes,

705
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:26.239
post thirteen yes, or forty four yes, five thirteen yes.

706
00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:28.400
Now five thirteen would have been about the time you

707
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:33.559
got to Brooks House, right seven five after five.

708
00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:35.679
Around five after five yetta imagine so yes.

709
00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:40.199
Okay, Then you see five forty four correct? You see

710
00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:49.039
five fifty nine correct, six thirteen correct, seven forty seven correct? Yes, okay.

711
00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:51.599
Now look at a lapse of time. I'm gonna go

712
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:55.559
straight down the five fifteen and after Kay. You see

713
00:49:55.599 --> 00:50:01.159
sixty minutes, yes, you see fourteen minutes, Yes, you see

714
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:06.760
twenty six, Yes, you see twelve? Yes, you see forty

715
00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:10.280
five forty five seconds? Yes. Now do you see the

716
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:14.679
bytes up and bites down? I do? Okay, I want

717
00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:19.079
to direct your attention to after five. See the bites up, yes,

718
00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:28.440
bites down? Over here seventy one, seventy one yes, zero

719
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:32.519
two yes, okay. Then you see six then over here

720
00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:35.320
at five forty four you see twelve, twenty six, ninety

721
00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:41.519
one yes, forty nine, ninety seven, thirty four yes, okay,

722
00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:47.519
twenty four, twenty seven, oh seven, yes, thirty seven, seventy four,

723
00:50:48.599 --> 00:50:51.400
seventy seventy eight yes, seven seventy eight excuse me, and

724
00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:55.800
then a four. Basically, you see all the different numbers

725
00:50:55.800 --> 00:50:59.079
between bites up and bites down through the morning early

726
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:05.480
morning hours, right, correct? Okay, we have the benefit of

727
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:07.960
an engineer from AT and T come in and talk

728
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:10.559
about data and how to read this. Do you know

729
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:16.559
whether this Do you know how to read this report

730
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:20.559
and how it discusses the data used at certain time periods?

731
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:27.320
Absolutely not? Okay, you would agree that those numbers are correct,

732
00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:30.639
which we pointed out right.

733
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:36.719
If you are in a position to agree to that,

734
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:37.159
you may.

735
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:39.400
If you don't know, then you shouldn't.

736
00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:40.920
Yeah, I don't know.

737
00:51:41.320 --> 00:51:43.559
I want to I want to be clearer with my question.

738
00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:48.039
The numbers that I told you to read from this paper,

739
00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:52.599
that's an evidence. Okay, you read them correctly, right, I

740
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:55.599
read the numbers off after you correctly guess. Okay, that's

741
00:51:55.639 --> 00:51:58.960
my question, And you would agree that the numbers I

742
00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:00.840
told you to read you read them, and you read

743
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:04.400
them in correctly right that I read them correctly? Yes, yes,

744
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:25.079
okay and at the times correctly right? Correct. So you

745
00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:34.800
testified about Aaron then going and searching on the laptop, right,

746
00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:38.679
I said that he asked to use the laptop, yes, okay.

747
00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:47.239
And the searches that Aaron was riding on that laptop

748
00:52:48.199 --> 00:52:49.000
not being run by you?

749
00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:49.320
Right?

750
00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:53.760
Right? You're absolutely sure that you didn't run these searcheons.

751
00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:56.440
The searcheres that he ran. No, I couldn't have ran

752
00:52:56.480 --> 00:52:57.280
the searches that he ran.

753
00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:02.760
Did you run any searches that day? I'm not sure? Okay?

754
00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:08.320
Did you run searches that morning? I don't recall running searches?

755
00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:12.719
I mean, kay, did you run a search for Norwich

756
00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:17.559
restaurant shooting suspects that morning but be back for Boston.

757
00:53:18.159 --> 00:53:19.920
Norwich restaurant shooting suspects?

758
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:24.119
Yes? Absolutely not. Did you run a search Belleview sat

759
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:31.239
Hartford shooting? Absolutely not. Did you run a search breaking

760
00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:35.599
news in Hartford? I don't recall running search breaking news

761
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:38.360
at Hardford? Did you run a search shooting at Hartford?

762
00:53:38.679 --> 00:53:41.039
At at what comes home? Asking me that morning when

763
00:53:41.039 --> 00:53:44.039
you came back from from Boston, I don't recall running

764
00:53:44.039 --> 00:53:46.480
New Street but up wild Coxes computer. Did you run

765
00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:49.679
any of those searches? I don't recall running noose searcheres? Okay,

766
00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:54.360
did you run a search on spokeale dot com for

767
00:53:54.519 --> 00:54:02.960
Aaron Pernadez's personal information? No? Did you run the search

768
00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:08.599
that said Foston shooting subsequent to those searches the same

769
00:54:08.599 --> 00:54:17.119
morning you're talking about. I don't believe. So. Do you

770
00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:20.679
understand you have any ideas, fluster mm? Do you have

771
00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:24.239
any others any well l any knowledge of any of

772
00:54:24.280 --> 00:54:28.360
these shootings, any of what shootings the ones of Norwood

773
00:54:28.440 --> 00:54:33.880
restaurant shooting, absolutely not, or the suspects absolutely not. All

774
00:54:33.880 --> 00:54:38.840
of you Saint Hartford shooting. No, breaking wands in Hartford

775
00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:44.079
shooting at Hartford. No, you would agree that a shooting

776
00:54:44.119 --> 00:54:49.639
at Hartford is completely different than a shooting in Boston. Right, Yes,

777
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:53.280
see what that says in green, cause there's shooting in

778
00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:56.360
Harford last night. Kay? And can you see the date

779
00:54:56.599 --> 00:55:00.639
on that? Yes? What date does that surf? July sixteen,

780
00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:11.519
twenty twelve at the time seven twenty seven am. Do

781
00:55:11.639 --> 00:55:16.639
you see the next item that's highlighted in green? Yes?

782
00:55:16.920 --> 00:55:20.239
What does it say breaking Boston News. And do you

783
00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:23.199
see the date in time? Yes? What time is that, sir?

784
00:55:23.639 --> 00:55:27.559
Eleven fifteen the three checkers after in the morning and

785
00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:29.840
the date again, I'm sorry, July twenty twelve.

786
00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:32.960
July what, I'm sorry? July sixteen, twenty twelve.

787
00:55:33.400 --> 00:55:38.280
That's the same date of the shooting. Yes, okay. Do

788
00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:41.719
you see that highlighting green? Yes? What does it say

789
00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:48.719
in green, sir, shooting in Harford and the date July sixteen,

790
00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:53.000
twenty twelve, and the time eleven oh seven am. Okay,

791
00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:57.079
that's the same date as the shooting in Boston. Correct? Correct?

792
00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:05.400
All right? Do you see that search that t highlighted ingreen? Yes? Kay?

793
00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:08.719
What does it say? Shooting in Boston? And what is

794
00:56:08.800 --> 00:56:13.840
the date July sixteen, twenty twelve and the time ten

795
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:19.440
twenty six pm? Now, Aaron had left your house at

796
00:56:19.559 --> 00:56:22.000
what time? Sir? Or Brooks house? At what time? I'm

797
00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:24.000
not sure what time he left? He wasn't there at

798
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:32.880
ten twenty six pm? Correct? Correct? Uh? The next one

799
00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:37.079
in green bricky news in Hartford, Connecticut, and the date sir,

800
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:42.199
July sixteen, twenty twelve, and the time ten fifty eight am.

801
00:56:51.480 --> 00:56:52.960
The next one in green, what does it say, sir,

802
00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:58.840
shooting in Boston and the the date July sixteen, twenty twelve,

803
00:56:59.159 --> 00:57:03.039
and the time ten twenty seven pm. And that was

804
00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:07.519
mister Hernandez at Brook Wilcox's home at ten twenty seven pm. No,

805
00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:16.920
not pm, No, and the one and greed now Boston shooting,

806
00:57:17.719 --> 00:57:18.280
the date.

807
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:22.920
July twenty twelve, July sixteenth, twenty twelve, I'm sorry, ten

808
00:57:23.159 --> 00:57:26.079
ten fifty one pm, and mister Hernandez was not in

809
00:57:26.719 --> 00:57:28.199
miss Wilcox's home at that time?

810
00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:37.920
Correct? Correct? Can you look at the uh what's highlighted there?

811
00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:44.880
Aaron Hernandez spelled Aaron with two a's. Let me rephrase

812
00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:48.320
that is Aaron spelled with two a's there, yes, okay,

813
00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:54.119
And the date July sixteen, twenty twelve, and the time

814
00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:57.920
three fifty four pm. Mister Hernandez was not at Brooke

815
00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:00.480
Wilcox's home at three fifty four pm. What's he sir?

816
00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:12.199
I don't believe so. And can you read what's highlighted here?

817
00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:15.800
Aaron her named as address and that is a Google

818
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:20.679
search correct? Correct? And the date July sixteen, twenty twelve,

819
00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:25.000
and the time eleven thirty one pm. Mister Hernandez was

820
00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:28.639
not at from Willcox's home at that time? Correct? Correct?

821
00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:29.320
I'm sorry?

822
00:58:29.440 --> 00:58:31.480
Was that PM or ampm PM?

823
00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:37.719
Thank you? Looking up his own address right? Unstained? Doing

824
00:58:37.800 --> 00:58:43.039
a search for Aaron Hernandez address? Correct? Who's doing the

825
00:58:43.079 --> 00:58:45.639
search wouldn't be well, I'm not saying who I'm asking.

826
00:58:46.039 --> 00:58:47.159
You just said doing the search.

827
00:58:47.400 --> 00:58:51.639
So the search is? It says Google searches, sir. Do

828
00:58:51.679 --> 00:58:54.719
you see that right there? Yes? Under type Yes? And

829
00:58:54.840 --> 00:58:59.599
what's the search again? Google search? Okay? And the exact

830
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:10.599
the item is hearing her name Dand's address. Now can

831
00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:14.679
you read the next Google search written hearing her name

832
00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:20.320
Dad's girlfriend and the date July sixteen, twenty twelve, and

833
00:59:20.440 --> 00:59:27.159
the time eleven thirty pm. Mister Anders wasn't at Broke

834
00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:29.280
Wilcox's home at eleven thirty pm that night?

835
00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:29.599
Was he?

836
00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:37.639
That's correct? Can you read the next one highlighted in

837
00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:42.400
green Boston shooting and the date July sixteen, twenty twelve,

838
00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:47.519
and the time ten fifty eight pm. Okay? Now, the

839
00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:49.280
next one written in green.

840
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:52.239
NBC Local News, Harvard, Connecticut.

841
00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:03.320
Actually go to this next one here, doc where it's

842
01:00:03.360 --> 01:00:06.639
at nygreet what's in green for? Excuse me? Alright, shooting

843
01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:11.159
in Boston and the date July sixteen, twenty twelve, ten

844
01:00:11.239 --> 01:00:18.800
twenty seven pm. The next one in green breaking News Boston,

845
01:00:19.480 --> 01:00:23.840
the date July sixteen, twenty twelve, the time eleven o

846
01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:36.880
nine am. Okay. The next search they are listed Aaron Hernandez,

847
01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:40.840
the date July sixteen, twenty twelve at what time sir?

848
01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:50.360
Three fifty six pm. The next search breaking news in harperd, Connecticut.

849
01:00:51.400 --> 01:00:56.079
The date July sixteen, twenty twelve at what time ten

850
01:00:56.199 --> 01:01:06.800
fifty eight am. The next search airing her Nande's address,

851
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:35.719
The date July sixteen, twenty twelve, time three fifty six pm. Okay,

852
01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:40.360
there's a string of a of a Google s. The

853
01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:43.400
word says Google dot Com correct. Correct. And in there

854
01:01:43.480 --> 01:01:47.440
in the string it you see the the words what

855
01:01:47.679 --> 01:01:54.599
sir airing Hernandez's address ye and the S and the

856
01:01:54.800 --> 01:01:59.360
date July sixteen, twenty twelve, and the time eleven thirty

857
01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:08.519
one pm. Now there's another Google Internet link correct. Correct.

858
01:02:08.800 --> 01:02:12.440
Now what does it say there shooting in Hartford last

859
01:02:12.559 --> 01:02:16.880
night and the date July sixteen, twenty twelve at the

860
01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:25.239
time eleven zero eleven o seven am. Mister BIU. These

861
01:02:25.239 --> 01:02:28.400
would appear to be. Now these are the they're not, sir,

862
01:02:29.239 --> 01:02:36.199
well laid on, they're some basically, judge, there are a

863
01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:38.199
couple of searches that are not I. I. I wanna

864
01:02:38.280 --> 01:02:40.480
just make sure I cover'e more. There's only a couple

865
01:02:40.559 --> 01:02:49.800
more it. Okay. Can you read what it says.

866
01:02:49.679 --> 01:02:56.599
There www dot s spokeo dot com, Aaron hernandez.

867
01:02:56.920 --> 01:02:59.559
Kay, would you agree that says spokeo dot com.

868
01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:02.880
Says spoke oh spoke it in the old thing?

869
01:03:03.039 --> 01:03:04.840
Okay? S can you expell it for the ladies and

870
01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:05.360
gentlemen of the.

871
01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:09.920
Jury s po keo dot com. And then after that

872
01:03:10.679 --> 01:03:14.639
Aaron her name is and the time July sixteen, twenty twelve,

873
01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:15.840
eleven thirty pm.

874
01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:26.280
And would you agree that the next one is just

875
01:03:26.360 --> 01:03:31.480
the link to the aforementioned search? Correct? Correct? And that's

876
01:03:31.519 --> 01:03:50.480
at what time, sir? July sixteen, twenty twelve, eleven thirty pm. Okay, okay,

877
01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:53.880
this is next. The next one is the link correct

878
01:03:55.280 --> 01:03:58.880
a l A Google link? Correct? Mkay. And it appears

879
01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:02.440
to h go to a newswork website. Correct? Okay? And

880
01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:07.639
what is it? Reference Halfer shooting? The what is that

881
01:04:07.719 --> 01:04:08.079
word there?

882
01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:15.000
Bellevue Street shooting in harfer okay and the day July sixteenth,

883
01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:17.000
twenty twelve, eleven o seven am.

884
01:04:20.280 --> 01:04:21.800
I just wanna make sure we get 'em on here.

885
01:04:48.400 --> 01:05:13.400
I apologize, courts and dogence. Can you read this one here?

886
01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:16.679
Highlighting and it's ay? Does it report it if it

887
01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:19.440
purports to be the New York Daily News? Yes? And

888
01:05:19.559 --> 01:05:22.599
what does it say New York DailyNews dot com.

889
01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:29.400
Ray Allen thinks Celtics fans sign in Miami he shooting

890
01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:33.719
guard harsh treatment in Boston article July sixteenth, twenty twelve,

891
01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:35.519
ten twenty six pm.

892
01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:41.440
Are you already Boston Celtics fan ser No? Okay, it's

893
01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:44.840
Brooke Wilcox, a Boston w Celtics fan interested in Ray Allen.

894
01:05:45.239 --> 01:06:09.239
You'd have to ask her. I don't know. Okay, Wait, well, apologize, judge.

895
01:06:09.239 --> 01:06:11.199
I have to read inside the links to make sure

896
01:06:11.199 --> 01:07:06.000
I'm not refeeding. So did you run any of those

897
01:07:06.039 --> 01:07:09.880
searches that we just covered? No, I don't believe I

898
01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:12.360
ran any of those searches. Good. Did you observe Brooke

899
01:07:12.400 --> 01:07:15.920
Wilcox doing any of those searches? I don't call observing

900
01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:21.199
her doing those searches? Mkay? And did you see Aaron

901
01:07:21.239 --> 01:07:26.239
Hernandez running those searches. I don't know what surges mister

902
01:07:26.280 --> 01:07:30.719
Hernania's were running. Okay, So the answer is no, I

903
01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:34.280
don't know what surges mister Hernani's ran. My question is,

904
01:07:34.599 --> 01:07:39.159
did you see Aaron Hernandez run those searches? I don't believe,

905
01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:45.159
so kay. Now, you testified yesterday that while you're at

906
01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:50.719
Tanya's house Aaron called Tanya. I'm sorry, excuse me. You

907
01:07:50.840 --> 01:07:55.119
testified yesterday that while you're at Brooke Wilcox's house you

908
01:07:56.639 --> 01:08:04.400
saw Aaron call Tanya. It's cause, uh, I believe I

909
01:08:04.519 --> 01:08:07.480
did say he called Tanya. He used the phone to cause.

910
01:08:07.880 --> 01:08:13.599
This was not from his iPhone, not instead right, I

911
01:08:13.639 --> 01:08:19.199
don't believe, so kay, do you recall what phone he used?

912
01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:25.439
He could've used the house phone, he could've used Brook's phone,

913
01:08:25.479 --> 01:08:26.520
could've used my phone.

914
01:08:27.199 --> 01:08:30.880
So you don't recall what phone it was? Act what

915
01:08:31.119 --> 01:08:34.039
phone was used? Correct? Correct? Correct? I don't know exactly

916
01:08:34.079 --> 01:08:34.600
what phone are.

917
01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:34.800
Use that.

918
01:08:40.800 --> 01:08:40.960
Sir.

919
01:08:41.079 --> 01:08:45.119
Your number was eight six zero four six two zero

920
01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:48.199
eight thirty right at a point, I believe, so okay,

921
01:08:48.279 --> 01:08:50.239
that was one of the many text messages that we

922
01:08:50.399 --> 01:08:52.239
spent half a day going over.

923
01:08:52.399 --> 01:08:59.600
Right, I don't believe. So are you disagreeing that this

924
01:08:59.720 --> 01:09:02.640
is your over That's not what I disagree to. You

925
01:09:02.760 --> 01:09:04.319
asked me if it was one of the many days

926
01:09:04.720 --> 01:09:06.039
we spent going over with text.

927
01:09:06.199 --> 01:09:08.680
Oh okay, see if your your beef is with the

928
01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:11.319
the the amount of time we went over text not

929
01:09:11.479 --> 01:09:12.039
the phone number.

930
01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:12.800
That right, m.

931
01:09:14.399 --> 01:09:14.840
Susni.

932
01:09:15.560 --> 01:09:18.960
Your issue isn't is not with the fact that that's

933
01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:21.600
your phone number? Of it? How long we actually took

934
01:09:21.680 --> 01:09:25.680
going over those text messages. It's protection of elements.

935
01:09:26.479 --> 01:09:30.319
No, oh, ear old, Now who's we going over that?

936
01:09:31.840 --> 01:09:35.800
You lin? Mister Hay again myself the jury. You went

937
01:09:35.840 --> 01:09:38.439
over a four six two number with me, Sir, I

938
01:09:38.520 --> 01:09:40.239
don't recall it. Me and you going over a four

939
01:09:40.279 --> 01:09:42.960
six two number? Show me? Please have a.

940
01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:47.319
Moment, Si, No, it's four six two O eight three?

941
01:09:47.439 --> 01:09:49.039
Oh your number? Yes it was.

942
01:09:49.119 --> 01:10:01.760
It wasn't a point, yes, thank you. Next question, just

943
01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:02.159
so our.

944
01:10:02.119 --> 01:10:04.960
Clearer, is the eight six zero four six two always

945
01:10:05.079 --> 01:10:08.880
carry zero your home? Correct? What was it the point? Oh? Okay? Uh?

946
01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:24.399
May I approach youaits you may showing you a phone

947
01:10:25.079 --> 01:10:27.960
record from Sprint. Do you see that, sir? Yes? And

948
01:10:28.039 --> 01:10:38.520
the name of the customer is projection, Uh over world,

949
01:10:40.479 --> 01:10:44.399
Tanya val Drama and that's Tanya Aaron's cousin. That's who

950
01:10:44.439 --> 01:10:47.720
you know to be Current's cousin, right, correct? Okay? Do

951
01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:51.399
you see how the phone numbers are listed as y

952
01:10:51.680 --> 01:10:55.800
as uh either the city or incoming? Right? Yes? I do? Okay?

953
01:10:56.439 --> 01:10:59.359
And if it's your understanding when you read called destination,

954
01:11:00.319 --> 01:11:03.840
if it's an incoming call, it says incoming right correct.

955
01:11:04.119 --> 01:11:06.479
And if it's an outgoing call, it says the city, right.

956
01:11:09.399 --> 01:11:11.840
And that's what you're telling me, yes, okay. Do you

957
01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:16.039
see an outgoing call to your phone number at seven

958
01:11:16.159 --> 01:11:23.359
forty two am from Tanya prection to from Tana uh?

959
01:11:23.479 --> 01:11:27.239
Excuse me from that phone number? Yes? Kay? And how

960
01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:28.239
long did the call last?

961
01:11:29.159 --> 01:11:29.720
Nine minutes?

962
01:11:30.199 --> 01:11:38.399
Kay? Do you see any incoming calls that morning from

963
01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:42.319
your phone number or any of the many phones that

964
01:11:42.399 --> 01:11:42.760
you've had?

965
01:11:48.520 --> 01:11:51.560
I mean that I can recall it if one of

966
01:11:51.600 --> 01:11:52.600
those numbers be in mine.

967
01:11:52.680 --> 01:11:55.279
No, I don't know that. What about Brooke Willcox's house.

968
01:12:02.640 --> 01:12:05.039
I believe there's a incoming call from Brooke Wilcox's home

969
01:12:05.159 --> 01:12:09.039
right there where at one forty eight an in three

970
01:12:09.119 --> 01:12:12.520
thirty two down here that's in the afternoon. Someone from

971
01:12:12.600 --> 01:12:14.520
that number is calling in the afternoon.

972
01:12:14.119 --> 01:12:18.520
Right, that's on the seventeenth, income in to two six

973
01:12:18.640 --> 01:12:19.840
one four zero two seven.

974
01:12:20.159 --> 01:12:24.520
Kay, So there's no one calling. I'm talking about the

975
01:12:24.640 --> 01:12:29.159
day of the sixteenth, right on the sixteenth, I don't

976
01:12:29.159 --> 01:12:33.000
believe so, kay. So on the sixteen there are no

977
01:12:33.199 --> 01:12:37.079
records from Brooke Wilcox's house to find you to this number,

978
01:12:38.520 --> 01:12:45.039
issue to Tanya. But there's a out going call to

979
01:12:45.359 --> 01:12:47.920
to your number at that time in the morning.

980
01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:50.800
Correct, and I'll see you which ide ur.

981
01:12:52.960 --> 01:12:57.439
The's not the profit witness to interpret and to identify

982
01:12:58.319 --> 01:13:01.479
uh shelfone records, so that witness may appear later in

983
01:13:01.560 --> 01:13:11.479
the trial. But please disregard references to telephone calls to

984
01:13:11.840 --> 01:13:18.600
Tanya's number or from Tanya's number, mister Bias, please, yes,

985
01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:22.680
and folks, you didn't get a full of recess. Does

986
01:13:22.720 --> 01:13:24.479
anyone need a recess at this stage?

987
01:13:26.279 --> 01:13:30.239
You want to keep going? See no hands raised?

988
01:13:30.319 --> 01:13:31.159
We will keep going.

989
01:13:31.359 --> 01:13:33.960
I feel very encouraged, Thank you, sir. I'm not asking

990
01:13:34.039 --> 01:13:42.039
you all right, mister Bradley, let's discuss this trip to

991
01:13:42.079 --> 01:13:49.079
West Palm Beach. You understand you testified that you didn't

992
01:13:49.119 --> 01:13:51.479
pack any that you didn't bring any clothes with you, right,

993
01:13:52.119 --> 01:13:54.680
testify The closes were left at the airport. That's where

994
01:13:54.680 --> 01:13:57.159
they were left. Okay. I'll here in New England, not

995
01:13:57.399 --> 01:14:00.720
for it. Yes, and mass So you on a trip

996
01:14:01.359 --> 01:14:06.960
to Florida and didn't burn any lunch, correct, I brought

997
01:14:07.039 --> 01:14:09.720
luggage to match and stayed there inside the car. Okay.

998
01:14:10.800 --> 01:14:13.800
And you told the lazies and gentleman of the jury

999
01:14:14.760 --> 01:14:20.760
that you did not have a ticket back, it's that correct, correct?

1000
01:14:21.279 --> 01:14:32.239
And you were aware that after the Florida trip that

1001
01:14:32.359 --> 01:14:36.159
after the Florida trip, Eron had to go to Phoenix

1002
01:14:36.479 --> 01:14:40.680
for a photo shoot, correct, Okay. And he was a

1003
01:14:41.199 --> 01:14:46.560
MM I guess he was sponsoring Muscle Milk, remember that. Yes,

1004
01:14:46.600 --> 01:14:51.359
I do remember that, okay. And this is your testimony

1005
01:14:51.439 --> 01:14:54.720
to the lazier gentleman of the jury that you did

1006
01:14:54.800 --> 01:14:58.279
not have a ticket to go with him to uh

1007
01:14:58.760 --> 01:15:02.039
to Arizona. Yes, just my testimony that I was never

1008
01:15:02.119 --> 01:15:04.439
given a ticket to go to Arizona. It was turnandas

1009
01:15:04.920 --> 01:15:09.800
you didn't have a reservation either, mister Hernandez asked me

1010
01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:12.239
if I wanted to go to Arizona, win, and I

1011
01:15:12.359 --> 01:15:17.000
indicated that I didn't wanna go. Kay Uh, what rest

1012
01:15:17.039 --> 01:15:19.840
it to you? Sirs? Is it your testimony that you

1013
01:15:19.960 --> 01:15:23.960
did not have a reservation to go with Ales Sernadis

1014
01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:24.600
to Arizona.

1015
01:15:27.119 --> 01:15:30.800
You don't let me injer it? Can please do again?

1016
01:15:32.960 --> 01:15:35.199
I don't know how you interpreted reservation. But he asked

1017
01:15:35.199 --> 01:15:37.840
me to go and I said no, So no, I

1018
01:15:37.840 --> 01:15:38.199
don't work.

1019
01:15:38.319 --> 01:15:38.640
He didn't.

1020
01:15:38.640 --> 01:15:41.319
I didn't have a physical ticket win to go to Arizona.

1021
01:15:42.079 --> 01:16:00.159
Kay, bad approach to witness you may, I'm showing you

1022
01:16:00.560 --> 01:16:05.079
a document and I'm going to subsequently mark for identification.

1023
01:16:06.079 --> 01:16:08.680
Can you give the Can you tell the ladies and

1024
01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:11.720
gentlemen of the jury the name of the that's on

1025
01:16:11.800 --> 01:16:12.479
the header.

1026
01:16:13.119 --> 01:16:15.319
Says Luxey Travel Group?

1027
01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:20.760
Okay? And they're out of California correct, okay? And it

1028
01:16:20.840 --> 01:16:30.000
appears to be a flight itinerary, doesn't that see you?

1029
01:16:30.079 --> 01:16:36.920
It's appears to be a flight itinerary? Yes, okay? And

1030
01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:38.880
could you tell the ladies and gentlemen of the jury

1031
01:16:39.199 --> 01:16:40.760
the name of the passenger.

1032
01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:46.439
Alex Bradley okay? And where is the person traveling from

1033
01:16:48.159 --> 01:16:53.159
from Miami going to stopping where in Dallas? And then

1034
01:16:53.239 --> 01:16:57.600
from Dallas to Phoenix and the day.

1035
01:16:59.520 --> 01:17:04.439
February thirteenth, twenty thirteen, and that's the departure day, correct, correct,

1036
01:17:05.479 --> 01:17:10.399
And that's the day that uh you were shot. I believe.

1037
01:17:10.479 --> 01:17:17.680
So if we mark this doesn't exhibit the objection. The

1038
01:17:17.880 --> 01:17:36.000
objection that is received the three old fives. Now, do

1039
01:17:36.079 --> 01:17:40.880
you recall, ever mentioning under oath that you were only

1040
01:17:40.960 --> 01:17:44.880
in Florida for three days? Yes, that I believe that

1041
01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:47.399
was only the Florida for three days. So it's your

1042
01:17:47.479 --> 01:17:49.640
testimony to the lazy and gentleman of the jury that

1043
01:17:50.199 --> 01:17:53.760
you were only there for three days. Correct, Okay, So

1044
01:17:54.000 --> 01:17:57.840
the thirteenth you would have arrived to tenth the correct,

1045
01:17:58.680 --> 01:18:05.880
I believe, so, m okay, and not the eighth. Give me.

1046
01:18:07.560 --> 01:18:10.239
I don't recall arriving on the eighth, he says, far

1047
01:18:10.319 --> 01:18:12.239
the ladies and general maturity, you arrive on the eighth.

1048
01:18:12.319 --> 01:18:16.600
Do you remember that? And mister Egan's ask me questions. No,

1049
01:18:16.760 --> 01:18:19.439
I don't recall that, okay, And that's because you can't

1050
01:18:19.439 --> 01:18:25.119
account for all five days, can you, sir? Injection none.

1051
01:18:27.720 --> 01:18:30.920
Now the question may stand, and you may answer the question, sir,

1052
01:18:32.880 --> 01:18:34.920
I didn't believe I was down here five days. So

1053
01:18:35.199 --> 01:18:37.680
if I was down here five days, if in fact

1054
01:18:37.720 --> 01:18:40.079
I was down here five days. Then no, I can't

1055
01:18:40.079 --> 01:18:41.880
account for all five days, okay.

1056
01:18:42.479 --> 01:18:45.840
And and you can't account for five days that you

1057
01:18:46.039 --> 01:18:51.520
want to discuss in your testimony, right, sir? Objection? Uh,

1058
01:18:52.239 --> 01:18:56.399
it's sustained in that form you were dealing drugs those

1059
01:18:56.439 --> 01:18:59.880
two additional days that you cannot account for, orn't do you, sir?

1060
01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:05.119
Absolutely not? Okay. You were not with mister Hernandi's the

1061
01:19:05.239 --> 01:19:07.680
entire time. Now, I'm like, where are you, sir? I

1062
01:19:07.880 --> 01:19:10.640
was with mister Hernandez the entire time down there, okay.

1063
01:19:11.079 --> 01:19:22.399
But yet it's your testimony I have personality?

1064
01:19:22.520 --> 01:19:22.960
Is you may?

1065
01:19:25.640 --> 01:19:29.720
I'm showing you a travel document and what does it say?

1066
01:19:29.760 --> 01:19:33.079
The name of the travel company is sir, Lux Travel, okay?

1067
01:19:33.560 --> 01:19:37.680
And who is the passenger hear and Hernandez okay? And

1068
01:19:37.960 --> 01:19:42.600
what is the date of travel? February eighth, twenty thirteen, Kay,

1069
01:19:44.439 --> 01:19:47.840
February eighth through the thirteenth. That's five days, right, sir?

1070
01:19:48.479 --> 01:19:51.319
That Mr Hernandez is that says mister Hernandi's was there

1071
01:19:51.399 --> 01:19:52.159
five days, yes, sir?

1072
01:19:52.479 --> 01:19:57.439
Right? And you say you flew down with Aeron Frnantez, right, correct?

1073
01:19:57.960 --> 01:20:00.279
So and you say you were with it Aaron her

1074
01:20:00.319 --> 01:20:02.000
Nanda is the entire five days.

1075
01:20:03.039 --> 01:20:05.520
I said I was with mister Hernandez, my entire stay there,

1076
01:20:06.560 --> 01:20:08.479
the entire time that I was there and.

1077
01:20:08.600 --> 01:20:11.399
Was in Florida. You were in Florida up until when

1078
01:20:11.439 --> 01:20:11.960
you got shot.

1079
01:20:13.560 --> 01:20:17.880
The duration of my Florida stay mine me personally, I

1080
01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:21.039
was with mister Hernandez. However many days I was there,

1081
01:20:21.159 --> 01:20:22.359
I was with mister Hernandez.

1082
01:20:22.520 --> 01:20:25.279
But you could only account for three or five days, right, sir?

1083
01:20:26.079 --> 01:20:28.119
If in fact I was down there for five days,

1084
01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:30.319
I can only account for three, that would be correct.

1085
01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:48.319
That's what I wanted to know. Now, you testified under

1086
01:20:48.760 --> 01:20:53.319
direct examination that you lost to your cell phone at

1087
01:20:53.800 --> 01:20:56.960
the at Part Tutsies that night. Right, Yes, I left

1088
01:20:57.000 --> 01:20:59.760
my s I believe I left my cell phone the Tutsiest, correct,

1089
01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:02.399
And that's what you want the latest and gentleman to remember.

1090
01:21:02.520 --> 01:21:05.920
Right, that you left your cell phone there protection sustained

1091
01:21:05.960 --> 01:21:07.279
as to the form of the question.

1092
01:21:07.760 --> 01:21:11.680
That was your testimony, right sir? Yes, okay, But you

1093
01:21:11.920 --> 01:21:18.279
actually had two phones right at that time?

1094
01:21:18.920 --> 01:21:21.600
I may I only had one phone with me in Florida.

1095
01:21:22.039 --> 01:21:27.279
Okay. I wanna go over these numbers and make sure

1096
01:21:27.319 --> 01:21:30.840
we got them right. Eight six zero seven zero six

1097
01:21:31.199 --> 01:21:33.720
forty seven oh nine. Is that your number, sir? I

1098
01:21:33.840 --> 01:21:37.479
believe that was my number, Kay, eight six zero seven

1099
01:21:37.520 --> 01:21:40.199
two six thirty seven to forty nine.

1100
01:21:42.399 --> 01:22:06.439
I'm not sure if that's my number. Of course, they'll

1101
01:22:06.520 --> 01:22:07.119
just be very.

1102
01:22:42.560 --> 01:22:44.640
Well. Ms Medina's looking that up. I can move to

1103
01:22:44.720 --> 01:22:50.000
another point, dealing with your your phone poems. M D.

1104
01:22:54.520 --> 01:23:00.479
You testified that you your phone died and you wanted

1105
01:23:00.560 --> 01:23:04.920
to charge it in the VIP room at Sutsi's. Yes.

1106
01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:07.800
I was trying to find a charging for my phone, correct.

1107
01:23:07.800 --> 01:23:14.199
Okay, and then it got left behind at Sutsi's. Yes,

1108
01:23:14.279 --> 01:23:22.760
at some point okay, okay. Ms Medina just found text

1109
01:23:22.880 --> 01:23:31.960
number nine that's been admitted in the evidence and the

1110
01:23:32.039 --> 01:23:36.279
composite of the text messages. I apologize it. So I

1111
01:23:36.279 --> 01:23:39.800
don't have the exhibit uh number for all supplement the record.

1112
01:23:41.399 --> 01:23:45.760
Do you see the number eight six zero seven two

1113
01:23:45.880 --> 01:23:50.520
six thirty seven forty nine, correct, And that's to Aaron's number,

1114
01:23:50.600 --> 01:23:55.600
the two O three number, right, yes, okay, And this

1115
01:23:55.800 --> 01:23:57.760
is where you talk about if I dealt with the police,

1116
01:23:57.800 --> 01:24:00.680
my boy, this would have been over correct. And you're right,

1117
01:24:00.800 --> 01:24:03.079
you too paranoid, that's what made you do this you

1118
01:24:03.119 --> 01:24:04.720
remember that, correct, Okay?

1119
01:24:05.039 --> 01:24:07.039
So now do you agree that that was your number

1120
01:24:07.079 --> 01:24:12.520
two three weeks later? Yes, kay, three weeks later, not employed, right,

1121
01:24:13.359 --> 01:24:15.439
not out in Florida. That's what you want the jury

1122
01:24:15.479 --> 01:24:15.720
to know.

1123
01:24:16.520 --> 01:24:33.199
Ingestion spressustained is to the form okay, may have uncle

1124
01:24:33.239 --> 01:24:37.399
witness you may are you certainly now on like Bibbs

1125
01:24:37.399 --> 01:24:41.960
two forty nine give you Aaron's phone records, Alprus Whittings,

1126
01:24:49.119 --> 01:24:51.640
could you read this phone number that I have highlighted.

1127
01:24:51.279 --> 01:24:55.800
Here seven two six three seven four nine. Okay? That's

1128
01:24:55.880 --> 01:24:59.960
your phone number, right, yes, on February twelfth, right, that's

1129
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:04.560
it's the day before you got shot, correct, not two

1130
01:25:04.640 --> 01:25:08.359
weeks later like you just testified. Correct, okay, So that

1131
01:25:08.560 --> 01:25:11.800
in fact you did have that phone number. Yes, I

1132
01:25:11.880 --> 01:25:30.840
did have that phone number, okay. And then can you

1133
01:25:30.920 --> 01:25:33.479
read this phone number here to the ladies and gentlemen

1134
01:25:33.520 --> 01:25:36.640
of the jury eight six zero seven zero six four

1135
01:25:36.680 --> 01:25:40.079
seven zero nine. That's another phone number, right, correct? Kay?

1136
01:25:40.439 --> 01:25:44.520
And the date that that is that's on February thirteenth

1137
01:25:44.960 --> 01:25:48.600
at what's I at seven fifty four? Am? Kay? So

1138
01:25:48.760 --> 01:25:55.279
those are two numbers right correct? You had both those

1139
01:25:55.359 --> 01:25:59.720
numbers at the time on your Florida trip. Yes, well

1140
01:25:59.760 --> 01:26:01.960
as if he had them with him or if they

1141
01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:06.039
were as shined to foods easy assigned to him. You

1142
01:26:06.159 --> 01:26:08.479
had both of those numbers assigned to you on that trip,

1143
01:26:08.600 --> 01:26:12.079
correct sir? Yes, I did. Okay, So now you didn't

1144
01:26:12.119 --> 01:26:14.720
get one two weeks later like you uh just mentioned.

1145
01:26:15.079 --> 01:26:16.840
I didn't say I got it two weeks later, I said,

1146
01:26:16.880 --> 01:26:19.000
three weeks later, meaning that's the day you're showing me

1147
01:26:19.079 --> 01:26:19.560
the number of you.

1148
01:26:19.880 --> 01:26:24.159
Okay, three weeks later? Correct? So you had both of

1149
01:26:24.239 --> 01:26:27.960
these numbers assigned under your name at that time? Alright, Yes,

1150
01:26:28.000 --> 01:26:32.119
I had two numbers, correct. Okay, Yeah, two phones? Correct? Okay,

1151
01:26:35.439 --> 01:26:38.600
told the latest and gentlemen of the jury up, I'm

1152
01:26:38.640 --> 01:26:41.439
in the five track. The police asked you if you

1153
01:26:41.520 --> 01:26:45.039
had a phone with you that day, right, you mean

1154
01:26:45.119 --> 01:26:48.840
the day that I was shot. Yeah, I believe they did.

1155
01:26:49.119 --> 01:26:50.640
That's the only time you were talking to the police

1156
01:26:50.720 --> 01:26:56.840
right now you got shot, kay, February thirteenth. Oh, you

1157
01:26:56.920 --> 01:26:59.319
may answered, he They may or may have asked me

1158
01:26:59.359 --> 01:27:01.199
about a phone, do you have one? Er any other

1159
01:27:01.239 --> 01:27:03.319
interactions with the police on your trip to Florida?

1160
01:27:04.479 --> 01:27:04.640
Uh?

1161
01:27:05.159 --> 01:27:08.159
Yes, leaving to get my property from the deparker in

1162
01:27:08.279 --> 01:27:09.920
the interview from the hospital bed.

1163
01:27:10.199 --> 01:27:12.920
Prior to getting shot, did you have any interactions with

1164
01:27:12.960 --> 01:27:15.680
the police. No, do you remember telling the ladies and

1165
01:27:15.760 --> 01:27:18.239
gentlemen of the jury that, well you just s mentioned

1166
01:27:18.279 --> 01:27:19.960
you left your phone at Tutsi's.

1167
01:27:19.600 --> 01:27:22.039
Right, Yes, I believe I left my phone attuencies.

1168
01:27:22.039 --> 01:27:25.319
And then you told the police you didn't have a phone, right, correct,

1169
01:27:25.319 --> 01:27:27.039
Cause I didn't have a phone because you left it

1170
01:27:27.079 --> 01:27:31.479
at Tutsies. Right. I believe I left it attuenchies. Yes, okay,

1171
01:27:31.800 --> 01:27:41.800
my approach. Yeah. Can you read actually, I'll do it

1172
01:27:41.880 --> 01:27:55.079
on a screen. Can you read this phone number? Sir?

1173
01:27:55.399 --> 01:27:58.359
Yes, sir A six zero seven two six three seven

1174
01:27:58.439 --> 01:27:58.920
four nine.

1175
01:27:59.039 --> 01:28:01.920
That's your phone number, correct, and it's origin it's the

1176
01:28:02.039 --> 01:28:06.199
originating number, right correct? Okay? And it is calling what

1177
01:28:06.439 --> 01:28:11.560
number two zero three six zero six eight nine six'.

1178
01:28:11.680 --> 01:28:14.039
Nine and what's the date and time that you made

1179
01:28:14.079 --> 01:28:15.640
this phone? Call? SIR i didn't make.

1180
01:28:15.680 --> 01:28:19.239
That this phone call was, made, Uh february, seven, fifth

1181
01:28:19.279 --> 01:28:21.960
seven fifteen pm On february, thirteen that's.

1182
01:28:21.840 --> 01:28:24.560
The day you got, shot right. Correct you got shot

1183
01:28:25.319 --> 01:28:30.279
early early in the, morning right? Correct. Okay and it's

1184
01:28:30.359 --> 01:28:32.720
your contention that you didn't make that phone. CALL i

1185
01:28:32.800 --> 01:28:35.119
can tell you exactly who made the phone, call if you'd,

1186
01:28:35.199 --> 01:28:38.640
like and from your lost. Phone that, phone that seven

1187
01:28:38.680 --> 01:28:40.720
two sixth number wasn't. Lost it was left In connecticut

1188
01:28:40.760 --> 01:28:41.239
with a friend of.

1189
01:28:41.319 --> 01:29:05.600
Mine these ecuse these.

1190
01:29:05.640 --> 01:29:13.359
TEARS i wasn't that was? There? Correct you left that In? Connecticut? Uh, yes.

1191
01:29:13.720 --> 01:29:22.000
Okay do you see this call on the twelfth day

1192
01:29:22.079 --> 01:29:37.520
before at nine Forty oh, sorry it's. Flurry. Yes do

1193
01:29:37.600 --> 01:29:41.119
you see that? Number? Yes. Okay and do you see

1194
01:29:41.159 --> 01:29:45.359
the numbers being? Called? Yes, okay you see the? Dates,

1195
01:29:46.319 --> 01:29:50.279
yes these are interactions between you And. Aaron, Correct, no

1196
01:29:50.600 --> 01:29:54.039
it's not interaction between me And. Aary so those phone

1197
01:29:54.119 --> 01:29:57.319
numbers are calling each other while you're In. Florida is that? Correct?

1198
01:29:58.159 --> 01:29:58.760
That that is?

1199
01:29:58.840 --> 01:30:01.520
Correct that phone is being called to, errands and that

1200
01:30:01.600 --> 01:30:03.800
phone's In connecticut at the, time and according to, you

1201
01:30:03.920 --> 01:30:06.199
the phones In. Connecticut, yes AND i can tell you

1202
01:30:06.279 --> 01:30:08.960
who had. It he's, like you, know, Well i'm sure

1203
01:30:09.000 --> 01:30:09.600
we can say that.

1204
01:30:09.760 --> 01:30:16.239
Up but it's not lost At sutzi's. Right but what's

1205
01:30:16.279 --> 01:30:17.800
not lost that particular.

1206
01:30:17.520 --> 01:30:19.600
Number like that's the phone call that's making that? Call

1207
01:30:19.720 --> 01:30:24.159
like that the seven two six? Numbers, Correct, no that's

1208
01:30:24.199 --> 01:30:30.680
not lost it twoties. Okay and you talked.

1209
01:30:30.399 --> 01:30:33.279
About how you have two phones and you burn 'em,

1210
01:30:33.359 --> 01:30:35.880
right ones that burn the, phone, yes. Okay and you're

1211
01:30:36.039 --> 01:30:38.319
always changing phones every thirty.

1212
01:30:38.159 --> 01:30:41.479
Days sometimes more frequent than, that, correct sometimes.

1213
01:30:41.159 --> 01:30:44.680
A little lower. Okay and basically you throw 'em.

1214
01:30:44.680 --> 01:30:47.359
AWAY i don't necessarily throw 'em.

1215
01:30:47.399 --> 01:30:51.399
Away you don't renew their minutes at a, POINT i

1216
01:30:51.640 --> 01:30:53.359
usually don't want to either pass it to someone else

1217
01:30:53.479 --> 01:30:55.359
because that's not good for a drug dealer to, do

1218
01:30:55.520 --> 01:30:56.680
right projection.

1219
01:30:57.560 --> 01:31:02.039
Over, NO i wouldn't be good to do if you

1220
01:31:02.079 --> 01:31:03.279
were selling drugs LIKE i.

1221
01:31:03.479 --> 01:31:06.760
Was, Kay and that's why you changed. Numbers but yet

1222
01:31:07.720 --> 01:31:09.600
you wanted to get into a fight in the, car

1223
01:31:09.760 --> 01:31:12.359
according to, you over this, phone for which you were

1224
01:31:12.399 --> 01:31:13.920
probably gonna ump, anyway, RIGHT i mean.

1225
01:31:13.880 --> 01:31:17.720
You used to get a fight now referrase, Please.

1226
01:31:19.640 --> 01:31:25.800
UH i was ther other question, now. Sir you mentioned

1227
01:31:27.199 --> 01:31:29.560
to the police that you ran out of, money, right

1228
01:31:30.199 --> 01:31:31.000
remember talking about?

1229
01:31:31.000 --> 01:31:32.520
That, YES i got a loan money.

1230
01:31:32.720 --> 01:31:36.199
Okay and you reached out to a gentleman by the

1231
01:31:36.319 --> 01:31:40.319
name Of Kevin, gordon, Right, Yes and you Asked Kevin

1232
01:31:40.399 --> 01:31:43.720
gordon to send you. Money, yes asked Mister gordon send

1233
01:31:43.760 --> 01:31:47.239
me A Western, union, correct and He Western union your?

1234
01:31:47.279 --> 01:31:50.479
Money, NO i used Mister hernandez's phone to make the

1235
01:31:50.600 --> 01:31:52.760
call and he never got back in touch with me

1236
01:31:52.840 --> 01:31:54.239
cause my phone at the time was.

1237
01:31:54.319 --> 01:32:03.039
Dead, okay you and have you never Told kevin to

1238
01:32:03.159 --> 01:32:03.439
send you?

1239
01:32:03.560 --> 01:32:07.399
MONEY i Told kevin To western to send me A

1240
01:32:07.439 --> 01:32:09.960
Western union at the at which TIME i called it

1241
01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:12.840
from Mister hernandez his, phone cause my phone was already.

1242
01:32:12.920 --> 01:32:15.560
Dead so he w when you spoke to, him did

1243
01:32:15.560 --> 01:32:16.600
he agreed to send you the? Money?

1244
01:32:16.680 --> 01:32:21.119
Answering did you finish your? Answer, no, sir you may.

1245
01:32:21.760 --> 01:32:24.399
So when he informed me that he, WOULD i instructed

1246
01:32:24.479 --> 01:32:26.600
him to call me back on Mister hernandez his, phone

1247
01:32:26.880 --> 01:32:27.760
and you told, Him.

1248
01:32:27.960 --> 01:32:30.279
I'm In florida amount of money AND i need you

1249
01:32:30.359 --> 01:32:32.640
send me. Money, YES i was running extremely no more.

1250
01:32:32.680 --> 01:32:34.239
MONEY i need him to send me A Western union

1251
01:32:34.359 --> 01:32:39.039
and he, said, okay no, Problem, okay no. Problem Sh

1252
01:32:40.119 --> 01:32:43.079
now you got to too. Season you testified to the

1253
01:32:43.159 --> 01:32:47.079
ladies and gentlemen of the jury, that, uh there were

1254
01:32:47.159 --> 01:32:50.239
four of you in the. Car, correct but you described

1255
01:32:50.319 --> 01:32:53.479
three cars that you were running with during that time, period,

1256
01:32:53.640 --> 01:32:54.880
right Mister.

1257
01:32:54.960 --> 01:32:58.520
Bias SHOULD i think we will take a will take

1258
01:32:58.560 --> 01:33:01.439
a fifteen minute racist folks before we get into the

1259
01:33:01.520 --> 01:33:01.680
vill