Saints for Our Time

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This week on they that Hope.

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Football is back, baby.

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We talk about the NFL.

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We also talk about memories.

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And we talk about the two young saints that were canonized this weekend.

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You can catch this content and many more episodes of they that Hope at theythathopepodcastcom.

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How many more do we have?

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We have two, oh, this one and one more, I know right, okay.

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Welcome to they that Hope, with Father Dave and Deacon Bob celebrating 2025, the Jubilee of Hope.

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And Franciscan University.

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I already said, that didn't I, okay, I was thinking do you think— Did I not just say that you might have?

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Do you think and maybe we talked about this last week do you think we have the year of hope this year because the Holy Father was paying attention to our podcast?

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Oh, it's obvious.

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He was always drafting behind everything we were doing, and that's what.

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I thought I didn't want to put it out there, but I figured, yeah, okay.

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Okay, that's what I figured.

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I mean the whole reason okay, I guess we can say it now because we're coming close to the end the whole reason we did this podcast is because Pope Francis asked us to, and the whole reason we're stopping is because Leo said that's enough.

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He asked us to.

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That's right, that's absolutely right, that's absolutely right.

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Well, before we get into deep spiritual content, as you are used to expecting, right, this is our.

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We have one more episode after this.

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And if and yeah, so check it out if you'd like and if you don't, that's fine.

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The fact that we were able to weather that storm was pretty amazing.

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It was.

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That was probably.

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You were going to get to memories a little later, but in terms of history, right and if we were to think about podcasts, that really I mean the fact we birthed this podcast.

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We birthed Abiding Together we birthed.

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It been around for a while.

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Yeah, but nobody knew about it.

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Yeah, it's kind of like in a conception, thing you know, like Jesus death, then redeemed.

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So okay, the Friars are sitting in the TV room.

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The other day yesterday I guess it would be watching football and we all there was about five of us and we said it's good to have football back, Isn't it great?

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only thing's going on.

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The past few weeks it's like this is great.

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Are you serious?

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You actually put baseball in.

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This is going to get us in big trouble.

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No, no, okay, sorry, I am so sorry.

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My apologies to WNBA for comparing it to baseball.

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Exactly, we all know where he was going with that.

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I heard your son went to a baseball game After the year.

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Okay, we're not going to talk about this in history part, but I looked back through the notes over the last several years.

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She came up quite a few times, caitlin Yep.

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Yeah, she did, yeah, she was very cool.

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Let's not bury the lead.

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Your son went to a baseball game.

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My son went to a baseball game.

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He saw the Pittsburgh Pirates versus the Los Angeles Dod.

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Paul Skeens Does he still have a cool mustache?

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Yes.

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I believe so Pitched, and for the Pirates, obviously our favorite Irish-.

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Ohtani, asian player.

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They were supposed to pitch against each other, but it didn't work out that way.

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Well, that would have been exciting to have two pitchers pitching at each other.

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That would make baseball interesting?

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It would be.

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It would be.

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You know they're dodging each other and stuff like that, so but the game was interesting, he said.

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Yeah, like the Pirates won Almost.

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I think he said almost he said, but it was you know, the Pirates won, which is hard, and there was fireworks and it was like really good playing and people were excited.

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I went to the next game.

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I wanted myself in one of the Friars it.

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It was 72 degrees, beautiful night.

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It was just wonderful, but not a lot to say.

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Actually, the Nationals have been playing well, but the big baseball news was actually with that crazy woman in Philadelphia.

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The big baseball news is never what happens on the field.

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No, no it's not.

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It's not.

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So this home run.

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Yeah, let's explain to Sister Mary Beth.

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A home run hit in the Phillies game.

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It goes and there's this mass crowd that goes and tries to get the ball.

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It always happens A guy gets it, takes it to his son.

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His son is nine years old.

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You've seen the video.

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Nine years old, ecstatically thrilled until.

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Happy moment he's hugging his son.

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This is a great family moment.

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And then crazy woman comes over and just starts ripping him Like really startles the father.

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He's like what the heck's going on?

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And she is just pointing and screaming and so the dad just kind of is like okay, and takes the ball and gives it to the woman who still?

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Goes off as she's screaming.

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And the announcers actually mentioned it on broadcast, and as the internet has a way of doing, this, woman is not going to leave her house for six months.

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This woman needs to get a wig and a disguise.

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Yeah, because, oh my goodness, I'm sure there's some side to that story.

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We don't know well, it's really actually.

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Yeah, the side of her, um, giving everybody a salute on her way out was interesting, but it's funny because the the someone in the internet I mean every angle, everybody was filming this thing.

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So there was this report that it was a certain woman in philadelphia uh, like this substitute teacher, little old lady and she goes it wasn't me, I don't even like the phillies, I'm a red socks fan, which caused more, more problem, right, but but again it showed there was the other situation.

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Did you watch in the um?

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us open tennis something about somebody stealing a hat or something.

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Yeah, a player gives his hat to this little boy and this dude he's this big CEO of some company takes it out of his hand.

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Well, he's I mean on the Internet and social media he's getting killed as well.

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So that's the beauty of social media If you can't shame somebody.

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If you can't shame somebody.

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If you can't shame somebody, it's the vigilante justice of the internet.

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Well, the good news for the kid was because this was on the Jumbotron and the announcers were doing it.

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I think was it the Marlins who were they playing.

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Anyway, I'm trying to remember where this was.

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It was in Philadelphia.

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Oh, it was in Philly.

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The game was in Philly, yeah.

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Anyway, the kid got like a basket of stuff, and then actually got to meet the players, whoever home run.

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he got.

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He got a signed bat, so the kid turned out okay.

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In fact, the rest of the story is that woman was actually connected to them.

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It was the little kid's mother and the whole thing was an act.

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No, of course, not Of course not.

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That would have been great, of course not.

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But it was good and your team did well yesterday.

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The Buccaneers.

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They did great.

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They played the Atlanta Falcons in Atlanta.

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You know the Bucs have been the winners of the NFC South now for the past five years and yet the Falcons have had our number for a while.

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It was an exciting game down to the last minute.

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A few missed field goals on both ends, a few missed field goals across the entire.

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Nfl.

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Yeah, that was kind of nuts yeah the Cleveland Browns right now are looking for a kicker, if you're interested.

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I thought they were looking for a quarterback.

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No, flacco actually played really well, did he?

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Yes, oh, that's great.

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Yeah, he did Good for him.

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Who did they play Cincinnati?

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Who did they play Cincinnati?

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Okay, yeah, actually there were a lot of good games.

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There was a lot of great games.

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I watched the Steelers-Jets game.

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So the Steelers featured Aaron Rodgers who was the quarterback of the Jets, and the Jets featured Justin Fields who was the backup quarterback for the Steelers, and it was another nail-biter.

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People thought the Steelers would roll the Jets, but it was only a two-point that.

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People thought the Steelers would roll the Jets, but it was only a two-point.

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That was an actual field goal that won the game at the end of it.

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And Rodgers had a good game.

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Yeah, Rodgers had Both teams played exceptionally well.

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I mean, what they did in the first week in the NFL is they had teams play against each other.

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There were grudge matches, like the Bills played the Ravens last night, but this one, the quarterback for the Jets used to be on Pittsburgh and vice versa and stuff.

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But I was just laughing.

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I was in an event this week, actually in Philadelphia, and this guy listens to our podcast.

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It comes up and he says to me it's just so fun listening, You're so well-rounded faith in sports.

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It's like, is that what it is?

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It's not around.

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That's an angle.

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Is that what it is?

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Yeah, there's two sides to you, because really, there's a lot there.

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There's a lot there.

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Okay, well, let's not forget, and sympathies to our good friend Deacon Kevin, but that Bills-Ravens game lived up to the hype.

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I think they were down by 10 points with two minutes left and the Bills roared back to win.

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If you have Josh Allen on your fantasy football team, you're doing well.

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He had almost 400 yards of passing and it was crazy.

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But it was a very, very fun day.

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In sports.

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Okay, the other thing that happened yesterday was the US Open men's tennis.

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Wait before we get forward.

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There was a game in Brazil, the Chargers beat the Chiefs, yeah, the Chiefs.

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The Chiefs are the only losing team in the AFC West.

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They have the worst record.

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Well, that's one game right.

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One game right.

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Yeah, they have the worst record in the NFL.

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They're tied for it.

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Sorry, everybody's having a field day.

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Yeah, and the Eagles the big thing although we're not going to be doing this is yes or no.

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Yes or no, will Taylor Swift do at the Super Bowl this year?

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Yes, okay, there you go.

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Yes, and if can, I throw this out.

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Well, sure, if the Bucks or the Broncos make it.

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We'll have a show.

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We'll have a show.

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We'll pick up a show.

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We'll pick up a show.

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That's right, we'll drop something.

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Us Open was yesterday, Men's final was yesterday and it was the third time that Sinner and Alcaraz played each other.

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Alcaraz won the French.

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Sinner won Wimbledon, Alcaraz won yesterday in four sets.

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But both really young guys.

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I think they're 22, 23.

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They are the future of tennis.

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A lot of fun.

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Both seem to be pretty good guys.

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On the women's side there was a player who took a break to have a baby.

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Well, there was a couple of things, yeah, and then there was a woman, and then she played well.

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I thought you were going to talk about the woman who took a break honestly with mental health.

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It's actually a pretty cool story.

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Who's this?

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Which one was this she?

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was the one in the finals, Amanda.

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I can't remember her last name, Samanilov or something like that American girl.

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Her father was a coach, which just the stress I mean she won the championship as a junior player, just phenomenal, up-and-coming person but the stress of that world.

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And then her father passed and her world just kind of caved in.

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Collapsed.

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yeah and she stopped playing for almost two years and then just came back this year.

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But the cool thing about this was she made it to the championship in Wimbledon and lost love.

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Love Didn't win an entire and just cried the whole time.

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I mean, she was just oh gosh.

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And then.

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So she made it back in the semis to play that same woman that beat her, love, love, and she beat her and made it to the finals.

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Oh, that's kind of cool.

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She lost in the finals.

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Yeah, yeah, that's great.

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It's a good story and you were saying something about Le.

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The Athletic, which is a big time sports, page writing thing.

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Magazine right Magazine books they do a lot of stuff and they have really actually very good.

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They have very good journalism.

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That's what I like about the Athletic.

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Yeah, that's really true, it's not just like clickbait.

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They really write very good articles.

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So they came out with the Basketball 100.

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It was the 100 top players in basketball.

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Did LeBron make it?

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He barely made it, did he?

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He just?

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squeaked in there.

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So the top five and that was some debate, among things were Michael Jordan, number one, LeBron James, number two.

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Oh, that's interesting.

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Magic Jordan.

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Number three Magic Johnson.

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Magic Johnson as well.

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No, no, sorry, it was Kobe Kobe.

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Kobe was number three.

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Johnson.

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No, no, sorry, it was Kobe.

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Kobe was number three.

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Johnson was number four and then Kareem Kareem Abdul-Jabbar number five.

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I think Wilt made six.

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Three of the top five are Lakers.

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That is a true statement.

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No, you know who was number six.

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It was Bill Russell.

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Okay, wasn't he a Laker and a Celtic?

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I don't know.

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I don't know LeBron's number two.

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I think most people would say those are the top three.

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Yeah, that's probably.

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I mean, some might argue, Russell its recency bites.

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The podcast was interesting.

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They said with Russell he was an important part of that team, but he wasn't the guy on that team.

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He wasn't the guy that you want the ball in his hands.

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In the last second kind of thing, yeah, chamberlain was up there too, but in terms of yeah, in terms of, and then they had a very interesting conversation.

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What about Chambers?

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Tom Chambers, I don't know, maybe John Paxson?

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I think he should have been up there.

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He should have been up there.

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So the Jordan LeBron debate if you want to check it out, it was actually one of the most balanced podcast debates I've heard on this, without people going crazy one side or the other, and obviously the main author was saying it's Jordan Because it is.

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And he said about LeBron.

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He said the one thing you could say about LeBron is that it's worth the conversation of it.

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Now, lebron still isn't finished.

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It's hard to beat Michael's six rings, and yet it's easy to forget the fact that Michael only went to the finals six times and LeBron went eight times in a row, with an obviously undermanned team compared to an obviously overpowered team like the Golden State Warriors.

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And so I think there's always good things to talk about there.

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Good debate.

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Wait, you're not even debating.

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You're just doing that little smug like well, I know you're wrong, because well, all right, oh, let's play.

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Oh gee, really, maybe it is, maybe it is Le.

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Well, all right, oh, let's play.

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Oh gee, really, Maybe it is, Maybe it is LeBron, gee you've convinced me.

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Sister Mary Beth, if you'd like to, we'll let her weigh in.

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Okay.

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Has she ever emailed us?

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Does she have?

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Email?

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Probably not.

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I don't know if she does.

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We'll let Sister.

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She probably can't even listen to podcasts.

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Sister Mary Beth will be the arbiter of this and we'll figure it out.

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That's right, exactly so.

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But speaking of LeBron, he's still playing.

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I'm excited he's coming.

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You know the Lakers are coming to Cleveland.

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Nba is about to start.

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I'm so excited.

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Yeah, so preseason starts when.

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October early October and then, late October, we kick into what hopefully will be a very exciting season of basketball.

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We can only hope.

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We can only hope, and not a lot happened in college football.

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Notre Dame didn't play.

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They play Texas A&M next week, which is a big game Saturday night.

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That's a really big game.

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Only one top two top 20 teams played this week Michigan against Oklahoma and I think Oklahoma won.

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So they lined up all the good stuff.

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Yeah, right.

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First week out of the gate and now we get back to normal life.

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Sounds good, and that's sports.

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Well, that dead space was nice.

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Well, I'm pulling it up.

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So do we have a?

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We do have a reading.

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Okay, there we go.

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Yes, franciscan University's Homecoming.

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Oh good, september 26th through the 28th You're invited to come to campus for a fun weekend.

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There will be tours of the renovated Christ the King Chapel.

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Is the courtyard going to be done by then?

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Yes, it should be oh nice, that'll be great.

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The St Francis Festival An alumni awards banquet.

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Am I getting an award?

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There goes the surprise.

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Oh, I never get awards, athletic Games and more.

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Also, if you graduated from Franciscan in a class year ending in a zero or a five.

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We didn't no.

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We have a special reunion for you.

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Come for one event or the whole weekend.

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We'd love to see you Learn more at alumnifranciscanedu.

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That's alumnifranciscanedu.

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You think I'd get the buttons right by now, do you know something?

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I was going to say something about that, about what Homecoming?

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No, you're not getting the buttons right.

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And yet, if it was up to me, we would not have any music.

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It would just be us sitting here.

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We wouldn't have cameras, we would just sit here and talk.

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Isn't that what we're going to do now, after the podcast is done?

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No cameras, no recordings, no mics, just beer.

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Oh, that's fine that works fine.

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Yeah, that works out.

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We're just not going to film it Exactly, okay.

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So one of the things that Bob and I were talking about, oh, I do want to clarify something about it.

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I just lamented that I've never won an award and I'm not an award-winning person.

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That's true, but I did win an award.

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What was that?

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At Franciscan.

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What was that?

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It was a kind back to me.

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In fact, that was the thing that I marked about the highlight of the last five years.

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Well no, this was like in the mid-1990s.

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I meant last 20 years.

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No, I've actually not won any award being here at Franciscan.

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Is there a greatest podcaster award?

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Yeah, it's coming, it's coming, alan Shrek's going to win it.

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You keep on ruining my stories.

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Okay, so we're thinking about, okay, so, the last five years.

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We started this in the fall of 2020.

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So it's not five full years and we were thinking about some of the significant events that happened.

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So what do you think?

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One of the movies that we've probably talked about the most in the last five years the most.

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Yeah, now wait, was it a movie that came out in the last five years?

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Yeah, I think so.

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I think so I think so, or this wasn't like Star Wars or something.

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Oh, no, no, no, no.

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Okay, a movie that we talked about the most Stop stop.

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Black Widow yes, isn't that an amazing movie?

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I went back on my notes and the number of times that Black Widow when you say we talked about it.

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I think a better statement is that you brought up Black Widow.

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You were obsessed with that movie.

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Obsessed is such a strong word that fits.

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It absolutely fits.

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What's her name?

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Florence Pugh.

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Pugh.

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Yeah Well, talk about amazing actress.

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I mean of course Phenomenal, of course Gifted.

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You're not obsessed.

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No, it was funny.

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Funny.

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So that was something else, but there was another.

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It was in the arts that we talked about a great deal.

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It seems like the obsessions were always on me yeah, hamilton yes, exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So we did, we talked about both of those you do kind of sink your teeth into something media wise and you hold on.

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You'll watch it numerous times Wonder Woman, there you go right.

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You might have mentioned that.

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You went from Gal Gadot to Florence Pugh.

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You know what?

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What if we did a film Black Widow meets Hamilton?

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Tell me, that wouldn't be a winner.

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That would be huge.

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Okay, well, for years, do you have a movie that kind of resonated or like kind of a big movie over the past five years?

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That's it.

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If you have to go search it, no, no, I'm just trying to.

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I was looking up something else.

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Um, I would say, okay, I do, I do have to search it, but because it's, it's something, I found that I thought oh my gosh, that's great.

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Um, I well, I like top gun.

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Oh sure, that was a that's great.

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Well, I like Top Gun, oh sure, that was a really big one.

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I like Dune, but we didn't talk much about it because you don't like good movies.

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Yeah.

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The Spider-Man cartoon movie was awesome.

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I've yet to see it.

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Yeah, you see, this is why we didn't get to it too much.

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So we did witness the decline of Marvel during our time, yes, but what was the movie that we went to together?

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We went to a few of them.

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But we were going to podcast on our way there, that's true, I don't remember what it was.

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I don't remember what it was either.

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I don't remember it wasn't Top Gun, was it?

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Maybe it was actually.

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Maybe it was.

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I think that actually was.

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That was a really fun one.

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That was a really fun one.

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We ended up having a good time.

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That was kind of when movies started to come back.

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Yeah.

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You know, the Mission Impossible movies were other ones that were like you know, because you had 2020 and then you had a writer's strike.

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Yeah no-transcript.

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It was like July 4th, I think 2020.

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Something like that.

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It was in the middle of COVID and nobody was supposed to gather and you had like 20 people.

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We were all singing and we were social distancing.

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Right the law to the most perfect degree.

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You know there's a movie.

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Do you ever see Encanto?

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I know you don't have children no.

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It's a Disney cartoon.

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I'm familiar with it.

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It's such a great movie.

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It came out during COVID and I think it was not, so it just went right to streaming.

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But Lin-Manuel, who wrote Hamilton, wrote the music for Encanto and it's one of the best Disney films ever.

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Family friendly I'll have to watch it.

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Awesome, Like great music, incredible music.

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I'll have to watch it, yeah so yeah, we kind of missed some of those things, but right.

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So great, great, great movies that happened in our world over the last several years.

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Here was one of the events that we spent quite a bit of time talking about.

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The solar eclipse.

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Oh yes, right, that was a lot of fun.

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It was.

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I was just going to say it was a lot of fun.

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That was a great time.

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Yeah, we weren't quite in the path of the total eclipse.

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I had to drive an hour or so, but you did go.

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Oh, I did.

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Yeah, I and my family.

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Because I stayed with my students that was stupid.

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You know something, if I could play it again, I probably still would have stayed, because it was really.

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We had a lot of fun on campus.

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If we could have done it again, we would have gotten buses and we would have gone to an hour away.

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There were people that like flew oh absolutely, they're already there's.

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the next one is in like 2029 or something like that.

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Wait, is that soon?

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In like 2029 or something like that.

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Wait, it's that soon.

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I thought this only happens like once every million years or something.

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That's what they say, just to keep people interested in it.

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Yeah, it's like when announcers are like this is the greatest football player ever.

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It's like they just got drafted.

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Izzy.

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Exactly.

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Izzy.

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Okay, anything else that comes to your mind, we'll do some other things.

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I hope you saw that video.

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This was dramatic.

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He just dramatically took his glasses off.

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It was kind of sad.

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Actually, it was kind of sad.

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I look back the number of times that we talked about shootings and situations like that.

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It was just.

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I mean, I didn't count each one of them, but it's just kind of awful that that's a part of it Every few months.

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It feels like we're talking about some horrible event.

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Yeah, it could be shooting or something else.

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Yeah, we obviously spent a lot of time with the war in Ukraine and we shared that whole fundraising thing that the university did for the refugees in Goming.

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There is a quarter of a million dollars in about 10 days, wow.

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And we brought in, I think, 45 families there.

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So that was I mean in the midst of a really, really struggle.

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That was a great blessing.

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And then I was also reflecting on the situation in the Holy Land, in Gaza, the attack in Israel.

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We had those students there.

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Yeah, that's right, we had 31 students there and there was not a lot of sleep there for about 48 hours until we got them all out.

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It's been some crazy things that have happened.

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There was an election yeah, it's been some crazy things that have happened there was an election.

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Did we talk about that?

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Did we happen to miss that one?

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Was there just one.

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There was just one presidential election.

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That happened right.

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Well, no.

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Because by the end of 2020, it already.

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No, the election would have been the fall of 2020.

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So that means we started talking about that.

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Yeah, we did actually.

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Yeah, we did.

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That's right, because that was when Biden got it, and then that was craziness.

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Yeah, those are two.

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Benghazi, all the insanity yeah oh, that's right, that's right, yeah, yeah.

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And then the most recent one, which was just fantastic.

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This is why we were here to be able to we were here to help you through those things Right.

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The Atlantic has nothing over on us.

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Maybe that's really why the podcast was here, because we just wanted to give you hope during the Biden era.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Just to cover that time those four years To bridge the gap we started.

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And then Biden took over.

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Biden's gone and it's going to be okay now.

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Yeah, other people are saying keep going, for the love of all that is good and holy, don't stop now, now, so we'll just bring back next week.

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Let me see that next week we can talk about some other things.

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We did the fruits of the spirit.

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We did the capital sins, which was interesting.

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Other things we did the Fruits of the Spirit, we did the Capital Sins, which was interesting.

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Yeah, One of the major events was obviously we were able to walk people through a new election of a pope, which was really fascinating, really fun and interesting, and the Eucharistic Congress.

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And you got to meet the previous pope.

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I did, I did.

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I had Coke with him breakfast you know, yeah right, just hanging out Flapjacks, flapjacks.

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Kick soccer ball around a little bit.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, popo's Flapjacks.

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So we'll talk more next.

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And again, if people have some memories that you want us to reflect on or something like that, we'd be happy to and thank you for those of you that are sending in emails and I know I say we'll go over emails.

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But we don't, but we will, so why?

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should we end, we will finally go over the emails.

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But thank you for all of those who are shooting us emails of well-wishings and good memories.

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You can send those to hopeatfranciscanedu.

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Somebody.

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I was at an event on Saturday night and this couple was there and they said so you guys are going to stop?

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They said we get it, we're just really appreciative.

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And they said no, it takes time.

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And they said but they'll be there.

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If you want to go listen to them again, you are welcome to.26:16.740 --> 26:18.342


You are absolutely welcome to.26:18.682 --> 26:23.947


Well, the other big news this weekend was we have two new saints we do In the Catholic Church.26:24.007 --> 26:24.307


We do.26:25.270 --> 26:25.932


That's really great it is.26:25.952 --> 26:28.100


If you haven't heard, gee what, tell me.26:28.610 --> 26:29.652


Let me tell you about them.26:30.133 --> 26:30.695


So let me.26:31.216 --> 26:34.723


Yeah, carlo, st Carlo Acutis and his parents were there.26:40.030 --> 26:42.180


I wonder how often that's happened that the parents are there, I can't imagine, and um very rarely.26:42.200 --> 26:43.085


And then his little brother read, did you?26:43.105 --> 26:43.567


see his little brother.26:43.587 --> 26:44.510


I didn't see that, no.26:44.911 --> 26:46.253


Okay, um, keep going.26:46.433 --> 26:54.324


All right, and uh, Pierre Giorgio Frassati, whose family was there His little brother or Ralphie, from that Christmas story that is fantastic.26:54.384 --> 26:55.266


Yeah, exactly.26:55.650 --> 26:56.675


Boy he's young.26:56.990 --> 26:59.298


Yeah, they actually, they may not have even ever met.26:59.459 --> 27:00.515


Okay, it's an interesting.27:00.596 --> 27:01.924


I don't know exactly what the story is.27:01.984 --> 27:02.930


We don't know what's going on there.27:04.775 --> 27:09.315


But yeah, it was a really beautiful, beautiful weekend, but we were talking ahead of time.27:09.335 --> 27:12.033


I have some friends Just real quick Like only.27:15.627 --> 27:16.589


It was like at 3 am.27:16.689 --> 27:16.909


Yes.27:17.110 --> 27:20.796


Yeah, they were up All night, all night long, getting so excited.27:20.856 --> 27:21.417


I wasn't there.27:21.697 --> 27:27.575


Oh yeah, I was going to say I mean, it was great they had all kinds of food and celebration.27:27.635 --> 27:28.437


It was great, it is.27:29.208 --> 27:30.092


It is really amazing.27:30.685 --> 27:57.632


I have a number of friends who have a longtime devotion to Pier Giorgio Farsotti and they couldn't help but feel a little overshadowed by this new whippersnapper, by this kid and sneakers some of the conversations reminded me of like the toy story thing, of like Woody complaining about Buzz like oh, you're a spaceman and I'm a cowboy yeah but I did I did feel a little like when I heard they were combining.27:57.692 --> 28:11.360


So, before Pope Francis passed away, there was going to be a feast, there was going to be a celebration of Carlo, who was going to be on the Jubilee for Youth Day, and lots of people had trips and pilgrimage lined up, and then when?28:11.380 --> 28:12.284


Leo, I raised my hand on that.28:12.344 --> 28:18.736


Yeah, and then Leo came and he pushed it back to the same day as for Saudis.28:18.776 --> 28:22.873


So people got to go to the Jubilee of Youth and there was no canonization.28:23.114 --> 28:26.114


And then with Frassati they combined it.28:26.174 --> 28:30.453


But you can say, at least here in the States, like everybody's talking about Carlo.28:30.565 --> 28:32.433


Yeah, sure it's funny.28:32.525 --> 28:41.777


I was thinking about we talked a little bit before and you were saying that he didn't get as much love, but I felt that way when John XXIII and John Paul were canonized together.28:41.858 --> 28:43.624


Obviously, we all love John Paul.28:43.664 --> 28:44.286


I love John Paul.28:46.111 --> 28:51.771


It's possible to say we wouldn't be here right now if it wasn't for John Paul, but I really love John XXIII as well.28:51.832 --> 28:52.814


Every time I go to Rome.28:52.995 --> 28:53.536


I mentioned this.28:53.556 --> 29:05.621


I'm sure, every time I go to Rome, go to the St Peter's Prayer Rosary in front of St John Paul excuse me, John XXIII and just say thank you, right, thank you for his love for the church and his dedication to the church and his opening up the windows of the church.29:05.701 --> 29:05.961


Yeah.29:06.482 --> 29:06.802


But yeah.29:07.285 --> 29:13.487


And you could say there wouldn't be a John Paul II if it were not for John XXIII, and that's probably why the good reason.29:13.507 --> 29:14.429


In terms of ministry.29:14.449 --> 29:18.736


We're not talking about existence Right, right, right and they had very different, you know some yeah anyway.29:19.337 --> 29:39.293


So it was beautiful, but you're right, I just read a little bit more about Akutis and Frassati during it and just one of the things I shared with the students yesterday was and we use the word normal almost like you're not radical, you know, but they were just normal guys, you know.29:40.146 --> 29:47.570


They loved the Lord with all their heart and they did hiking and they did sports and they did internet and they did I guess he played Halo.29:47.665 --> 29:54.832


There was a meme that was going around Some guy that said I probably shouldn't have smack talked that kid, you know, in 2000.29:55.485 --> 29:56.630


So, but I told this.29:56.845 --> 29:59.834


By the way, the video game is called Halo and the.29:59.874 --> 30:03.212


Catholic app is called Hollow, just to throw that out there.30:03.285 --> 30:04.949


I've not played Halo much.30:05.029 --> 30:05.892


It's okay, it's okay.30:05.912 --> 30:07.436


I just, you know, wanted to make it clear.30:07.656 --> 30:16.811


But yeah, so I was telling the students, just you know, what was extraordinary about them was their faithfulness, but they were normal.30:16.831 --> 30:17.532


This is one of the things that.30:17.552 --> 30:18.453


Arthur Briggs talks about.30:18.473 --> 30:27.733


He said what we need is Catholics that are radically sold out for the faith, that are normal, that are relatable, that can engage people, and these were two examples of saints that did that.30:28.505 --> 30:30.212


The homily is worth looking at.30:30.305 --> 30:31.591


It's on the Vatican website.30:31.865 --> 30:47.153


I'm so impressed with Pope Leo's well speaking but writing you know like, and I think he just really writes in a simple, clear way, gets right to the point of things and just some quotes of his homily.30:47.173 --> 30:50.350


That I thought was great, the whole theme of his homily, and it was very brief.30:50.571 --> 30:53.538


You know I thought it would be a lot longer but it was very brief.31:07.705 --> 31:12.852


And the invitation was not only to look at these saints who, in their youth, are canonized, but also that, really, when you look at all the saints, many of their conversions happened when they were young.31:12.873 --> 31:31.457


He mentioned St Francis of Assisi in that and how it was in his youth that he was able to give himself over, and he said sometimes we portray them as great figures, forgetting that for them it all began that when, while still young, they said yes to God and gave themselves to him completely, keeping nothing for themselves.31:32.025 --> 31:39.878


St Augustine recounts that in the torturous and tangled knot of his life, a voice deep within him said I want you.31:40.379 --> 31:45.795


God gave him a new direction, a new path, a new reason in which nothing of his life was lost.31:46.556 --> 31:50.431


And, yeah, that beautiful image and focus.31:50.451 --> 31:54.346


He talked about pure Giorgio, how he's a beacon for lay spirituality.31:54.987 --> 32:05.220


I mean, here's just a man who was active with his friends and active in business and devoted his free time and devoted his extra money to the care of the poor.32:05.400 --> 32:07.470


It was interesting, he was also politically active.32:07.811 --> 32:27.089


Yeah, catholic action that actually delayed his canonization a little bit Really, yeah, if you read a little bit, one of the things I thought was interesting about Akutis was that it was a priest who asked him to help with a project online, and that was really with the impetus that began his research and his website on Eucharistic miracles.32:27.230 --> 32:29.886


So it was just this priest saying you know, I need to help with something.32:29.926 --> 32:37.095


And this relationship that he developed with this priest that ultimately led to I mean in many ways him being much more known than anyone else would have known.32:43.545 --> 32:45.670


Absolutely yeah, that ministry that he did, which was again such a gift of something that you know.32:45.691 --> 32:48.926


How can young people, how can intergenerational ministry help the church Well it's.32:49.027 --> 32:51.814


I have this idea and a young person says well, I can help do that.32:51.835 --> 32:54.011


I know how to do that you know in a different way.32:54.425 --> 32:57.727


You know, carlo has so many great quotes which he quoted.32:57.767 --> 33:01.890


Some of them, carlo, it says used to say in front of the sun you get a tan.33:02.271 --> 33:03.952


In front of the Eucharist, you become a saint.33:04.692 --> 33:08.255


Another one is sadness is looking at yourself, happiness is looking at God.33:08.335 --> 33:11.457


Conversion is nothing more than shifting your gaze from below to above.33:11.897 --> 33:19.183


A simple movement of the eyes is enough and this is the last quote I want to share that the only thing we have to fear is sin.33:23.885 --> 33:28.444


People are so concerned with the beauty of their bodies and do not care of the beauty of their souls, that's just I mean for like a 14-year-old writing it 13 and 14-year-old writing it.33:28.464 --> 33:30.768


That's just he didn't quote it here.33:30.808 --> 33:36.357


But my favorite is that he said everybody comes into this life as originals and many leave as photocopies.33:36.397 --> 33:36.897


Yeah, yeah.33:36.998 --> 33:46.697


You know that he saw, as did Frassati, as did all the saints, that giving yourself fully to the Lord doesn't diminish you, but it's a new creation.33:46.805 --> 33:55.868


It actually is the fullness of who you are made to be, and I think you know those of us who have faith understand that, and I think those that don't.33:56.569 --> 33:57.069


That's always.33:57.410 --> 34:04.460


I think that's always one of the fears on the threshold of a conversion, which is well, if I give my life to Jesus he's going to ruin my life.34:06.648 --> 34:14.660


Even in whenever Jesus showed up in a synagogue, somebody who was possessed would cry out something like have you come to destroy us?34:15.325 --> 34:25.943


And I think the sin in our life, whenever we have an encounter with Jesus, shouts out have you come to destroy us?34:25.838 --> 34:28.952


Like if I give myself to you, it's going to destroy me, but it's really just going to destroy the things that are not of ourselves, that are not of the love of God.34:28.972 --> 34:30.155


They're ultimately free, right?34:30.336 --> 34:30.516


Yeah?34:30.705 --> 34:40.080


Yeah, you were saying, and Holy Father was saying, that they were both young and both of our stories is an encounter with the Lord when we were young, that the Lord did great things.34:40.645 --> 34:43.395


With that being said, that there are stories as well of people.34:43.725 --> 34:47.545


I don't want somebody to say, well, you know, they're older, they didn't, they missed all this grace.34:47.645 --> 34:50.695


But the scripture always talks about the person who comes in at the last minute.34:50.795 --> 34:52.932


Yeah, that receives all sorts of ages.34:52.992 --> 34:53.153


Yeah.34:53.453 --> 35:00.865


And that just speaks to the majesty of the Lord, that he meets us where we are, that there's this moment of grace, that our hearts are open to him and we ultimately say yes, and.35:00.906 --> 35:09.974


I think that's what all the saints the very beginning we were talking about before we got on the podcast about that yes, what is a similarity amongst all the saints?35:10.946 --> 35:17.190


They all said, yes, they were also all sinners and they worked through that and they were opened up to the Lord's mercy and the Lord did great things in their life.35:17.371 --> 35:20.457


So we've got two young people that said yes to that.35:20.497 --> 35:21.859


It's kind of fun to be able to celebrate that.35:22.305 --> 35:26.953


Akudas, his feast day is October 12th and Frassati, do you know when his is?35:27.013 --> 35:29.557


I do not, july 4th, yeah.35:29.737 --> 35:30.158


He loved America.35:30.178 --> 35:30.739


This is our independence day.35:30.759 --> 35:31.660


He loved America.35:33.085 --> 35:34.467


Are those the days of their passing?35:34.828 --> 35:35.809


It is Okay.35:35.909 --> 35:37.190


That's the usual thing, right yeah?35:37.451 --> 35:37.671


Yeah.35:37.891 --> 35:39.393


So let's just pray.35:39.553 --> 35:43.899


Lord, we thank you for the blessing of two new saints who said yes to you.35:43.999 --> 35:45.961


We pray for the grace to say yes.35:46.161 --> 35:53.098


We pray for the individual today who is struggling most, who doesn't believe in you, doesn't believe in your faithfulness, in your mercy.35:53.745 --> 35:56.952


Allow them, allow us the grace of being able to say yes.35:57.293 --> 35:59.518


May the Lord bless us, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.36:00.828 --> 36:03.836


Saints Carlo Acutis and Pier Giorgio Frassati.36:04.766 --> 36:09.654


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