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This week on they that Hope.
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How do you spell Eclair, sismant, the spelling bee, golf and other exciting sports stories.
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We talk about St Augustine, pentecost and Jack Nicholson.
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And the Pope Pope, pope, pope, pope, pope.
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You can catch this episode and many more at theythathopepodcastcom.
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Welcome to they that Hope, with Father Dave and Deacon Bob Seeing humor and hope in a crazy chilly world and if there's no hope in your hearts.
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People, although if you're watching online, you can watch.
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Bob got me a Father's Day gift.
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I did an early Father's Day gift.
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I did An early Father's Day gift and it's a picture of what's his name Darth Vader.
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No, it's not Darth Vader.
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I don't remember the actor's name James Earl Jones, james Earl Jones and it's from People of the Corn.
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A Few Good Men?
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No, it's not A Few Good Men.
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Field of dreams, field of dreams.
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And it says people will come Ray.
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And it says the one constant through all the years Ray has been baseball, this field, this game, it's a part of our past, ray.
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It reminds us of all that once was good and it could be again.
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Thank you so much.
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It's my favorite shirt ever.
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I told him I'm not sure I'm going to wear it, I'm just hanging it on my wall.
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Yeah, it's a beautiful shirt.
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Well, this shirt was brought to you by Field of Dreams and this podcast was brought to you by-.
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Did you go to Field of Dreams?
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I'd never go to Field of Dreams FranciscanUniversityOSVPodcastcom.
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This episode is brought to you by Field of Dreams.
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Oh, that's right If they will listen If we say Pope, if we say Pope, they will listen.
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We found an interesting stat thanks to Pat Grace.
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Looking at our stats, If our podcast has the name Pope in it, we get a 5% bump in our listeners, which means this show is called Pope in the Field of Dreams.
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We go from 20 listeners to 21, I think something like that.
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So I think we're going to rename our podcast they that Pope, they that Pope.
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I like that, and nobody will notice the difference.
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I'm buying, you know, I don't know how you are at your own families and things like that when you purchase things for each other.
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You probably don't have this issue with the friars, but sometimes, like somebody says, what do you want for Mother's Day and Jenny's?
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You know, I'll send you a link.
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That's kind of the thing we do these days.
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Like, you know, what do you want, I'll send you a link.
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Why don't they just buy it themselves?
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Well, actually that's what Jenny decided this year.
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Yeah, there you go.
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She said what do you want for Father's Day?
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And I said, oh, I don't know.
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I'll, jen forgets, is that?
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I forget, like my memory is so bad.
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So she likes it.
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Sometimes I buy my own stuff because I will literally forget what I ordered myself, and so whenever I open it, I'm like I can't believe this is exactly what I wanted.
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So I was getting T-shirts because there was a thing of like some fun T-shirts and in, like one of the t-shirts was this, and I thought you know what?
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I don't know if you get Father's Day presents, so I'm going to get that for you.
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Here's the other thing, though I ordered these shirts and then I got a shipping notice a few hours later that packages were arriving at my house, and I thought, wow, that was really quick.
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No, it was stuff I ordered last week that I forgot.
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There you go, I'm going to have the best Father's.
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Day ever.
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I just want to thank Jenny ahead of time for all the presents that I'm getting on Father's Day.
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Yeah, the kids and none of them are going to come on Father's Day.
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No, they have no idea what's going on.
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That's all right.
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We won't have an episode.
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We're not going to have an episode next week, so happy Father's Day in advance to all the fathers, and we'll probably say something about it.
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Sounds good Coming off of that.
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Sounds good.
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I had a great family weekend, though.
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We went to Sandusky, ohio.
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Okay, again, it's freezing out, it's 45 degrees and it's June 1st.
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Tell me about it.
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I did.
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I just literally did that.
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Okay, what were you saying?
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I'm saying it's cold, I know, but we went to Cedar Point.
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Have you ever been to Cedar Point?
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I have been to Cedar Point.
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Cedar Point is known as one of the great roller coaster parks in the North America region.
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Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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And I hadn't been there, you know, I think the last time I was there was in the 90s, when I took teens there on a youth group trip.
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Honestly, that's probably I don't know probably early 2000s.
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But the last time I was there I said to myself you can't do this anymore.
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It was.
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First of all I was stunned at how huge it was.
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So listeners to the podcast know I'm a Disney fan.
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I've been to Disney quite a bit, know those parks inside and out, so I wasn't ready for the size and the volume and the scope.
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yeah.
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I mean, disney has its own county in Orlando, florida.
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They spread things out.
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There's all these things.
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Cedar Point is like okay, we have five square inches, let's build a ride in this spot.
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I mean the amount of rides per square foot it's pretty amazing, was pretty amazing.
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I mean, you're right, you're not just exaggerating.
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It is one of the best places for roller coasters, I think, in the world.
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Right, yeah, people travel all over the place.
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We only had to drive a few hours away.
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What's the?
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scariest Were there long lines, I bought the-.
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Well, thankfully I went on a Friday, so school's still in session so that wasn't too bad I, I splurged for, like they have, the fast class thing that you could do, which is three times more expensive than the park ticket, but the park ticket wasn't too expensive, um, and it was cold out, so I think like more casual.
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Was it rainy?
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it wasn't raining thankfully I was watching the the weather.
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I was worried it was going to be raining, but um, but it was.
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It was brisk let's just say that it was it wasisk, many sweatshirts were sold.
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That's why I'm actually wearing this, because I wasn't thinking I'd need a sweatshirt.
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You've asked the scariest ride.
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So two things.
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When I was in college, we lived near.
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I spent a summer on the Jersey Shore.
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We lived close to the Great Adventure.
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It's a six-likes, six-likes Great Adventure.
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Yeah, so we for a membership for the summer.
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So me and my buddies all got and we went all the time.
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So we got to be friends with people who did the ride.
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So they let us just stay on.
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We'd go around and around and around.
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This is not the scariest one, but it was one of the ones that was really funny.
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So it was actually.
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I met your mom and dad.
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It was when I was a deacon.
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So I met your mom and dad a couple of times during that time in Tampa.
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Maybe I think twice, okay, but so I went to-.
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Busch Gardens Tower of Terror is what Is Hollywood Studios, Disney?
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Yeah.
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Okay, that's Disney, okay.
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So my little brother and his wife were coming and she was all talking smack.
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We can't wait to go to Tower of Terror, it's so good, we can't wait to go there.
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Roller coaster, upside down and corkscrew thing is like my stomach.
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I just can't do.
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I just can't do this anymore.
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They've built a number of them that are so freaking tall.
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Yeah, I didn't do.
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I was.
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I was on kid patrol because my grandkids were oh fun.
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So that was fun and I was glad the yeah, I'm like no no, I can, I can, I can take the slow train ride around again, but it was take the teacup, yeah exactly, but it was really fun.
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Okay, I'm reading a book right now.
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Have you read Mitch Albom?
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I think we've talked about him in the past.
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He wrote the Little Liar yeah, Tuesdays with Maury.
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I read Tuesdays with Maury.
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Okay, so he's got a book.
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It's fairly old, but I just realized did you know you can get audiobooks on Spotify?
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I was this years old when I found that out so maybe I'm a little behind things.
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So he wrote a book called the People you Meet in Heaven the whole storyline is he used to work.
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The main character of the book worked at a cedar point or something like that, but it's actually Mitch Albom.
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I really like Mitch Albom he's great that was fun, so that was your weekend.
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Should I say what I did?
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You should?
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A lot of you don't know, but Jack Nicholson, he's great.
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That was fun, that's fun, so that was your weekend.
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Should I say what I did?
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You should you should.
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Okay.
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So a lot of you don't know but Jack Nicholson he has a golf tournament the Memorial.
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You can't handle the shot.
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That's right, that was a shout out to one of our emailers, dory from Sunbury Ohio, who's very upset that we mixed up Jack Nicklaus and Jack Nicholson in the last episode.
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Thank you for catching that.
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Dory, but yeah, we were obviously.
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Someday we'll find Dory yeah we were joking up there, but so I went to the Memorial Golf Tournament, which Jack obviously hosts, not Jack Nicholson.
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Jack.
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Nicholson, and you know it's interesting.
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There's this debate who's the greatest golfer in the world, or who's the greatest golfer ever?
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The GOAT of golfing?
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Yeah, it was one of the individuals and I think he's right.
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He said that he thinks that Tiger Woods was the greatest golfer.
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Okay, and Jack Nicklaus and Jack Dory?
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You're going to get me confused.
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Jack Nicklaus had the best career.
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Interesting.
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Yeah, but it was so much fun.
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Actually, you're right, we go there probably 8 o'clock in the morning on Sunday.
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It was 44 degrees, but oh my goodness, murfield is the most gorgeous golf course.
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It was a beauty Is that outside of Pittsburgh, dublin, dublin, ohio.
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Oh, yeah, wrong direction.
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Yeah, more near Columbus.
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Just gorgeous.
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It's a cute little town.
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Dublin's really really quaint Brick sidewalks in this old town.
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Scheffler won it again.
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He's just a beast, but a golf course beautiful, Good friend.
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Have you played that golf course?
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Oh no, I don't know how that works.
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Yeah, it's a private course, I would have a hundred strokes before the turn.
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I think there was probably only about a half a dozen people that were under par.
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It was a killer course.
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But it was really really fun Beautiful day?
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Was it windy?
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No, it was beautiful and the cold yeah.
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In the cold by it was perfect.
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The sun comes up, it gets to be in the 60s.
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Yeah, by the husband of the people that we don't, of their podcast we don't talk about is a big golf ball fan Did he go with you yeah.
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So Jake Khym and I went together.
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Oh, how fun.
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And he, like he, knows golf.
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In fact, one of the golfers he had met he's from his home course that he played up.
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Okay, so it was great.
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It was a great day, it was beautiful, it was wonderful that's awesome, very cool, but no cedar point.
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But no cedar, it's no cedar point, it's golf.
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It's probably, if you talk about adrenaline rushes, the extreme difference of going to cedar point the memorial.
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Watching the golf game, the memorial is a lot more stressful.
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Cedar point is relaxed, oh yeah yeah, exactly, it's really.
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It's just like a lazy river yeah, really that's exactly what it is all right.
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Well, speaking of more sports and I would consider this a sport Faison Zaki, a 13-year-old from Allen, texas, bested Sarvadinia Kadam in the 20th round to win the 2025 National Spelling Bee on Thursday night.
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The winning word was I have to hear it.
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It is Eclaircissement, eclaircissement, that the winning word was.
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I have to hear it.
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It is Eclaircissement, eclaircissement, which doesn't sound English to me.
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Could you give me the origin?
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Yes, Could you use?
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it in a sentence.
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Google, could you use it in a sentence?
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Yes, when the éclaircissement comes, there will be a scene, you will know.
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It's an enlightening explanation of something.
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Did you ever see that?
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Something that has been hithero-inexplicable oh, I love the word hithero or hitherto.
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You've watched that.
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So they always ask you to define the word.
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Can you give me a definition?
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Did you ever see the thing that Babylon B did on what is a Woman?
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He said could you define it?
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And they were like uh, no, we can't.
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It was a cute video.
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Like he gets it, he was actually the runner-up the previous year, so it's very rare that a runner-up then shows up, and I guess that's only happened five times in the entire history of the spelling bee.
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One more shot and he got the word right and he collapsed on the floor.
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He and.
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Rory, it was this very, yes, very, very intense thing, and of course he'd been trying to do it all his life.
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Yeah, exactly as well, since he was one years old, Since he was eight.
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What can you think of a moment Was there, like a high stress, like you got a win moment, like athletically or anything?
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The eighth grade or eighth grade, fifth grade, catechism B.
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Ooh.
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Standing up in front of everybody answering these little questions about the catechism in the church.
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Oh meow, I nailed it.
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Nice, I don't know.
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You asked me that question.
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I was thinking about it.
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I mean, you know there's a particular baseball game.
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You need to get a hit, Did you?
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I bunted, I did, but we still got the next person out.
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They got the next person out, so we didn't score.
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So you?
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did your job, or at least you kind of passed it on to somebody else.
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Yeah.
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But no again, maybe I have to think about it.
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There was this huge moment.
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This is a great story.
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Thanks for sharing that, Dave.
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I'm glad we prepped the show.
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I can think of some auditions.
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Actually, the first thing I thought of when I was in high school in Illinois Illinois you can go state in theater.
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It's not everything you can do.