Trump Shooting and Civil War

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Looking at our world from a theological
perspective. This is the Theology Central podcast,

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making Theology Central. Good evening everyone. It is Monday, July the

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fifteenth, twenty twenty four. It
is currently ten eleven pm Central Time,

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and I am coming to you live
from the Theology Central studio located right here

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in Abilene, Texas. Now,
from this studio and this studio, I

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am continuing to monitor how the church
at large in the United States of America,

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how Christian ministries, Christian podcasters,
how churches are responding to the assassination

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attempt against Donald Trump, the shooting
of Donald Trump. How are churches,

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How are Christians responding to this?
What are they putting forth? And we've

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been monitoring the responses primarily that have
been posted on the Sermon's two point zero

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app Now, in the last line
broadcast, I started off by saying,

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Hey, they're slowly starting to come
in. They're slowly starting to come in,

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and I kind of made it sound
like there were more coming in,

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and then I went to check myself
and there wasn't near. In fact,

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I had a hard time even finding
the one that I had found. I

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couldn't find anything, but I did
find another one this evening, and we're

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going to review the audio of that. Now, let me just try to

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explain why we are doing this.
Why am I monitoring how Christians and churches

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are responding to the assassination attempt,
because it gives me an idea if the

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church in this present situation is going
to respond to it from a more biblical

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and philological perspective, or are they
going to respond to it from a more

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political perspective? All right, and
not only that, if they respond to

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it from a theological perspective, is
it going to make sense? Is it

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going to be biblical? Is it
going to be logical? Is it going

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to be consistent? And we've already
found some problems, all right, so

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and the ones that we've monitored so
far. So what I'm doing is I'm

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monitoring these responses first and foremost to
determine how they are responding in the present,

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just seeing if it's political or thiological, and then trying to kind of

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look at their theological perspective. Right
another reason, I'll just go ahead and

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get this out of the way,
and then we'll go back and look at

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some of the lessons we've already learned. The second reason is what I'm trying

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to determine is if I can kind
of figure out how the church is thinking

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in this present situation, it may
allow us to kind of get an idea

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how the church is going to continue
to think and where it's moving forward hope

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for the next well, oh,
the rest of twenty twenty four, going

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into twenty twenty five. This just
gives us a very just a very direct

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specific situation to look at, and
we can kind of see how the church

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is thinking and then try to take
from that where it is going. Now,

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what we have seen so far and
all of the responses that we have

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been monitoring or I have been monitoring, the first thing that we have seen

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is the very first response that I
reviewed, basically their response to and this

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was coming from a Christian perspective.
Their response is, Hey, because of

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the assassination attempt against Donald Trump,
because of the shooting of Donald Trump,

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here's what Christian should do. Stop
having anything to do with a liberal.

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Break off all content, all contact, have nothing to do with them,

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no fellowship with them, no,
I guess, no friendship with them.

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Just have nothing to do with them
anywhere in your community, in church,

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anywhere. And so if they are
a liberal, you just no longer have

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anything to do with them. I
found that absolutely just contrary to anything in

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the Bible. It just just seems
crazy. And of course, guess what

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was missing in that first one.
Nothing about loving your enemy, turning the

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other cheek over, do not be
overcome with don't don't be overcome by evil,

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but overcome evil with good. I
mean, I'm quoting literal scriptures here.

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Okay, nothing about that if you
see your enemy hungry, feed him

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thirsty, give him drink. None. There was none of that even mentioned

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nothing about our responsibility to be salt
and light and going to those whom we

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may disagree with so that we can
hopefully be examples of Christianity. No,

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it was just weird. Just cut
off, just cut off all contact with

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them. So that was kind of
a bizarre response, And that was kind

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of right out of the gate,
one of the first ones that I read,

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and it was it was just crazy. Now the second one, and

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I told everyone to go subscribe to
his broadcast on the Summer's two point Oh

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app that's the briefing by doctor Albert
Moehler. Now he brought up looking at

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the shooting and the assassination attempt from
the perspective of God's providence, or he

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didn't use the word decrees, but
we could look at God's decrees and God's

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providence. And so I utilize the
London Baptist Confession of Faith to look at

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the chapter. And I told everyone
I want you to be looking at those

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two sections in the London Baptist Confession
of Faith all week, the chapter on

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God's Decrees and the chapter on God's
Providence. I think it's chapter three and

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chapter five. I could be wrong. I'm going from memory. And I

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told everyone to just look at that, and I asked you some very specific

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questions. And the most troubling thing
about how there And I've heard a number

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of times where God's providence or god
decrees have been mentioned. And what drove

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me crazy is, Okay, Donald
Trump's life was spared because of God's decrees,

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because of God's providence. But they
don't they don't talk about decrees and

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providence in light of the individual who
no one has yet to say his name.

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Everyone that I've listened to, no
one has mentioned the name of the

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man who was shot and killed.
No one has mentioned his name. I

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think I've been the only broadcast to
mention his name. I don't know why,

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but nobody wants to talk about the
man who was attending the rally who

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died. But nobody wants to mention
his name, And nobody wants to talk

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to him about him in light of
God's providence and God's decree, because if

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you're going to say God's providence,
God's decree spared Donald Trump, and sense

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God stepped in, God protected Donald
Trump all the different things I hear Christians

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say, well, hey, sorry
to the family of the man who died,

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But you know, wasn't a part
of God's decrees or providence. And

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God didn't decide to even though God
was present at the exact same event.

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He decided to protect that man.
But your husband, your father, your

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brother, your son, he just
let die. And that is a very

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troubling That's a very troubling thing.
And again, the name of the man

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who died, his first name is
Cory. And it's a comprotour, all

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right. And if I'm saying it
incorrectly, I've apologized multiple times, but

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I'm not here. I've been waiting
for someone else to say it. Corey

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Comfortour he was a firefighter and he
died trying to protect his family. And

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I told you to write his name
down right, And so I asked you

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some questions about a question about decrees
and a question about providence. And then

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I told you on your paper to
put Donald Trump and put Corey Comportour down

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right. Put the two names down, because you need to be confronted with

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that. So, but everyone who's
talked about it, it's just kind of

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just skipped that just and it's just
so weird, like we can't. Oh,

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it's just been it's just been kind
of really frustrating. Then we reviewed

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a message where it got really frustrating
because there were things said there that were

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just there was accusations made. Some
of those accusations there was no proof given

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there was there was. It came
very close to, if not just absolute

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bearing, false witness, fraugilent information, and it it became, yeah,

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it became it was. It was. It was very frustrating. So we

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we that's what we've monitored so far. Now by no means, because I

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know I'm going to get an email
what I've monitored so far, I am

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no way saying this represents the totality
of the church. I am in no

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way saying this represents the totality of
Christianity. What I'm demonstrating is that I

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am monitoring a variety of different voices, from a variety of different theilological backgrounds,

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and a variety of different kinds of
churches, and so far what I

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have seen and heard has been somewhat
troubling. That that's my takeaway so far.

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Now does it tell me where the
church is going? Well? It

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once again it seems to demonstrate to
me that one, the church is not

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always thinking from a biblical philological perspective, is thinking more from either a political

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perspective or just your own personal opinion
that you're imposing on scripture. And two

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it seems to once again demonstrate that
when it comes to Christianity, we sometimes

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don't want to deal with the harsh
realities and the difficulties of our theology.

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See when when everything, when someone's
life is spared, when someone is saved,

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then we want to talk about God's
decrees, his eternal decrees, and

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his providence. But we don't want
to apply that to when someone slowly dies

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of cancer, or a child is
molested, or a woman is raped,

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or or a man dies attending a
political rally. We we then kinda we

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just kind of want to get God
out of that and that because we don't.

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Nobody in the church wants to be
made uncomfortable. But I am trying

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to say, we got to fit
when we when we are confronted with the

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tragedy, pain and horror of life, we've got to be We've got to

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confront it and we've got to deal
with it had all, no matter how

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uncomfortable it makes us. But sometimes
the church almost Disney Five's tragedy. We

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go to a Hallmark Channel version,
trying to make it sound like everything's wonderful

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when it leaves us with some very
difficult questions. Now that's what we've monitored

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so far. That kind of gives
us a summary. Now I know my

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review here, my kind of introduction
has already gone ten minutes. The last

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one went way too long, so
I'm trying to correct that. But I

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do want to get us all on
the same page. So what we have

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in front of us this evening is
a message entitled July the fourteenth, twenty

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twenty four Current Events Gregory A.
Miller. July the fourteenth, twenty twenty

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four current events, Gregory A.
Miller. I want you to look for

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it if you go, if you
want to look for the actual church on

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the sermon's two point. Oh,
app it is Bible Believers Fellowship. If

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I can get it to open here, there we go a Bible Believers fellowship.

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Bible Believers Fellowship. So it looks
like this was published on Monday,

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July the fifteenth, but it looks
like it was preached at the church case.

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I'm looking at the video. It
looks like he's literally in the church

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behind a pulpit, and so this
was what they did Sunday at church.

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This is being done in the church. He's got like a there's a screen

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up and he looks like he's looking
at aerial footage of the area where the

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assassination attempt occurred. Now, I
don't know anything else about this. I

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don't know anything. Again, I'm
just monitoring what is being said. I'm

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not doing this to be critical.
I'm doing this so that we can figure

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out how the church is thinking today
and where it may be going tomorrow.

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But most importantly, I'm doing this
so that you get to hear all the

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different perspectives about this event, this
tragic event one that should bother us and

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disturb us. You're getting to hear
all the different perspectives. You may agree

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with their perspective more than mine,
that's perfectly okay, But you get to

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hear mine, you get to hear
theirs, and you get to try to

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determine how you're thinking about all of
this. And most importantly, we got

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to have a good conversation about God's
providence and God's decrees. And I gave

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you some very important questions to work
on, or two very important questions,

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and hopefully you've been working on that
all day. Hopefully you really wrote those

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questions down and put it on the
refrigerator, like I said. And hopefully

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you will remember the name of the
man who was actually killed, because he

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continues to be forgotten in many of
these conversations, but hopefully in this one

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the man will be actually named.
All right, but we will see.

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Here we go, We're only going
to have one think talk by this morning.

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I just mentioned this with Israel.
It's the same old Okay, I'm

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gonna back that up really quick.
That started really abruptly. I think at

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the beginning, there's like a couple
of seconds of just like nothing so it

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may this pause may seem extended,
but I just want to make sure we

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have a clean coming in and we're
not cutting anything off because whenever we do

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a review, I want the person
to be heard fully. I don't want

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anyone to think I'm ripping anything out
of context. The Current Events updated,

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We're only going to have one think
talk by this morning. Just mentioned this

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with Israel. It's the same old, same old. Right now, you

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could just list the additional hamas people
being killed and that sort of thing,

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but you know there's no way around
getting having this as a current events update

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this morning. The Trump is assassination
attempt. I'm so glad to be able

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to say it was an attempt,
and ladies and gentlemen, I'm glad he

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said that. I am glad to
report that it was just an attempt and

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it wasn't successful. And I would
be the exact same way if it was

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President Obama, President Biden, Bush, Clinton, you named the president,

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I would be glad that it was
only an attempt and it was not successful

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no matter who it is. Right, we don't want people being assassinated,

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our political leaders. We don't want
this, right, We don't want people

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being murdered. We don't want people
being killed, right, We don't want

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that, Okay, So we should
all be if like amen, and glad

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that well that President Trump was not
killed. But even though the assassin a

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nation attempt was not successful against Trump, let's make s sure at the same

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time we're very as much as we're
happy that Trump was not killed, let's

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also be just as bothered that someone
was. Right, there was a man

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attending that rally that was killed.
And at the same time, yes,

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I understand the shooter had to be
killed, but it's still tragic when anyone

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created in the image of God is
killed, even though it may have to

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be done in war or because of
something with police, something may have to

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be done, but it's still tragic
that someone created in the image of God

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was killed and entered into eternity,
all right, So that's always should bother

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us to some level. So but
I am very much in agreement. I

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am glad that the attempt was not
successful one inch that way it had they

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over yea, and I won't I'll
tell you I do not want to see

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civil war, but that might have
been what'd be going on right now.

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Oh wow, Okay, So we're
going right to civil war talk. Now,

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I've heard this talked at a lot
of places. I mean, I

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try to keep up with what you
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circles. And there's been this talk
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There's a coming, a civil war
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coming to America. There's a civil
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pose this question. All right,
let's say a civil war begins. Let's

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say that was the first shot of
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begun. But let's say we find
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whatever the case may be, and
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civil war. What should be the
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is the bil Lo Christian response to
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you say, as you guys fight
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we stand outside of that fight.
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both sides to faith in Jesus Christ. We call both sides to be to

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put their faith in Christ, be
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what Christ has given you. See
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that is to love your enemy,
turn the other cheek, resist not evil,

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do not be overcome by evil,
but overcome evil with good. Okay

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I'm quoting scripture now? Am I
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do? Now? But what should
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to write out and I challenge you
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write down five things that the church
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a civil war. If it's true, if it's true, I mean,

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people keep saying it's true. Whether
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debate that. I'm just going from
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what should how should the Christians?
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Christians respond? I want you to
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got scriptural support for each one,
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just do your own meditation on that. I don't I'm not going to give

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them to you. I want you
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five things a Christian should do if
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what should the church's response be.
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with that. Okay, And if
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you answer the questions that I gave
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That's news I f at Yahoo died. Come all right now, let's continue,

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all right? So all right,
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killed and that that possibly could be
maybe we've entered into a civil war.

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Right now, let's see where this
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video if you haven't seen it by
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TV and not see it or have
the internet. Can you see it?

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it's not the shooting of Trump.
So just nothing gruesome here. I just

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want you to watch this. Those
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I left office. That was the
lowest point, and that comes right from

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the government services, comes right out
of border. This is where the greatest

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questions remain, will remain, amount
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guy. Ever recorded history into our
country and then and then the worst country.

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All right, so we're gonna okay, so this is how this Remember

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what we're listening to. This was
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people were looking right at the shooter. Now has that been confirmed? Are

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we sure that the people he's looking
where they're looking right at who? Who

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are you referencing here? Now?
Now, I need to go watch the

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video. Okay, hang on,
I'm gonna I'm gonna turn this down really

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quick. I'm gonna turn this down
now. Hang on, I'm gonna I'm

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gonna hit play video. Okay,
hang on, I'm gonna do I'm doing

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uh, I'm fast forwarding until I
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okay. So it's showing this is
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the shots, and it shows the
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They're looking now he's saying, they're
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saying they're looking right at the shooter. I don't know if we have any

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independent confirmation from them saying yeah,
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don't know if we have that right, so I would have now maybe he's

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got this evidence, this information.
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be is where is the church's responsibility? Is the church should we be the

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one saying, hey, asking all
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should we be saying, how should
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Let the investigation run its course,
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What do you think if you would
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be like, hey, hey,
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at the shooter. Why are they
why are they not shooting? Now?

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I'm looking at this what he's showing. It does show them looking. Now,

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maybe they're looking at the exact direction, and if it is, I'm

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assuming we don't need to ask that
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that question, and someone may be
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here. I don't know. I
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they're looking now. Maybe it's going
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back and play. I'm looking at
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I didn't realize This is going to
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all right. So let's just see
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can draw your own conclusion on whether
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going on in church or or how
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going to have their their strong opinions
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want the church to do, and
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not speculate, not accuse, not
give false information, not lie, and

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not bear false witness that we should
all that's just like Christianity. One oh

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one. All right, But let's
see maybe he's got evidence here that maybe

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the church needs to consider. I
don't know, let's find out took over

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and look what happened to our country, probably twenty million people. He should

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be dead right now. And you
know that's a little bit old, that

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chart that charts a couple of months
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see something that said he's inside.
Okay, now I'm going I'm going

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to I'm going to play here on
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showing. Okay, all right,
okay, now it does. Now it

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does show again the sniper from the
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does show that does show that I'm
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and I've already seen this video before. Which way does the bullet come

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from? All right? I'm trying
to look where the snipers are located in

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relation to where Trump was standing in
which direction the bullet came from? All

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right? So yeah, it's the
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sniper the sniper there. It looks
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back and repositions it and points it
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he turns it, so I guess
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this speculating. I see. In
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showing doesn't show exactly what they're looking
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looking at. So I would have
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snipers are positioned and when they're looking
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and then try to determine the position
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looking at him, why didn't they
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determined to be true, Okay,
but again, this is this what we

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should have been doing is throwing out
the speculation. Some of you may think

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this is exactly what the church should
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I'm conflicted here now. Doing it
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I would be doing it from the
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may be doing it right. Hey, hey, everyone at church this morning.

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As soon as church is over,
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podcast episode about the shooting. I've
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things that we need to question,
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podcast. I'll be going live at
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I just don't think it's appropriate to
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I don't know. I'm conflicted there. I'm conflicted. But let's let's listen

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to this and then he gets shot. Wow. Now, please don't come

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up to me and act like you're
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I've got some security experts in my
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Bongino. But there's been others,
including non Republicans, who've come forward and

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said something's wrong. Oh boy,
Dan Bongino is a conservative talk show host,

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So he's pulling from that's what he's
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and he's like, hey, don't
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pretending to be a security expert.
I've got some in my back pocket.

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So you're just going to rely on
other people. Oh this, I don't

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like the way the church is going
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This is getting into speculation and accusation. Why do we do this? Why

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can't we just wait, be slew
to speak, be slow to speak,

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let it play out, Let the
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already raising the question, then the
people in the pew, they don't need

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more speculation and accusation. What they
need is how do we look at this

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from a philological perspective? And then
how does our theology raise some very uncomfortable

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questions? All right, but let's
see where this goes. This is interesting

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that this one has been the most
interesting of all the ones we've looked at.

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All right, so he but you
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mean I don't know, we could
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says, well, I don't know. I don't know. I understand what

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he's saying, Hey, don't come
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saying, don't give me your opinion,

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because he's got his opinion. But
his opinion is based on people he listened

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to. What are the people in
the pew have listened to someone else and

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have a different opinion. Why do
you say, don't come up to me.

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I don't necessarily like that, right, Oh, I don't know.

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I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. All right,

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let's see where this goes. And
I'm only I'm going to give credit to

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one person for Trump being alive today. It's not those guys. It's the

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hand of God, all right.
So the hand of God kept Trump alive,

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all right, And the hand of
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Corey comparatour Corey compeatour dies try to
protect his family. The hand of God

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could save Trump, but did not
save Corey. Now that look, that's

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something you just have to do.
Now. I know Christians always get defensive

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and go, well, God can
save who he wants to save. Yeah,

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you can talk a big game when
it's not your father or brother or

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husband or son. Now maybe he's
gonna mention Corey. Maybe Corey's gonna get

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mentioned. So far and none other
responses as Corey even get His name's not

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even stated. And I'm the only
one saying his name, and I'm probably

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saying his last name incorrect one inch
that way and it would have gone through

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his eyeball. And I thank God
for various reasons. Number one, I

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thank God because I don't believe Donald
Trump's a saved man. That's why I

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don't want to see people shooting anybody, but especially an unsaved man. Praise

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God. I do love that.
Right, you don't ever want to see

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an unsaved man shot because they go
into eternity. Okay, that now it

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was Corey a save man, but
so all right, I do like his

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I do like that. I do
like that. I think this is genuine

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emotion and I like that. And
I look, so this is kind of

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a powerful trying to approach it.
I do like the church trying their best

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to approach it. I've got maybe
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but that's okay. I do I
do appreciate that they're trying to Like,

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Okay, we have to address this, and in some ways I will.

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You know, again, I'm not
not a fan of speculation and accusation,

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but I do appreciate. I don't
know how it was at your church on

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Sunday. I don't know. Typically
I am kind of the mindset that if

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you know everyone's showing up at church
and that's all anyone is thinking about,

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then it's best just to lean into
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it from a biblical and philological perspective. I chose not to do that Sunday.

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I chose let's just stick with Psalm
eighty three, Right, That's what

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I chose to do. I did
bring up the situation, but I kind

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of chose Typically though, I am
kind of like, hey, if everyone's

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already thinking about this, then let's
just deal with it. That's that's kind

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of what I would typically do.
So I can understand someone saying, hey,

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we're just gonna deal with it,
because I know that's what you're all

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thinking about anyway. Now, the
what is the right way to approach it?

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That is the debatable question that includes
Joe Biden. Now I say this

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with all the love I can muster, but if you've been saying, you

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think somebody'd shoot Joe Biden, and
you're stupid and wicked, and besides the

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fact, just on a practical matter, you want President Kamala. Of course

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we were saying that when Obama was
president, when people were saying some stuff

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about shooting Obama. So you want
President Biden and how he got him.

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But now let me tell you something. You would see the hand of God

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not only in what happened and being
an almost miss but do you realize the

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Founding Fathers actually set things up to
incentivize assassination? Or Okay, well,

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I'm glad he said if you want
to see someone else shot, it's stupid

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and wicked. I do like that. Don't really like the idea. Oh

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so you want this person to be
okay, all right, it's still very

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political, and so the Founding Fathers
set it up to incentivize assassin. See,

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now this is getting oh man.
Sometimes what's going on in churches Sometimes

408
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it's just look, I don't know
about you. In some ways, I

409
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could just spend all week just listening
to sermons and what's going on in American

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churches. Sometimes I may end up
in a pit of total despair. Sometimes

411
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I'm just fascinated what goes on in
churches. I'm just sometimes like, what

412
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is happening like and the church will
be successful, And I'm like, I

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don't even know what's going on.
Wait. We remember Jack Hibbs from Calvary

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Chapel. We were reviewing one of
his sermons, and that's the first time

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I ever just got so angry.
I had to just stop because of the

416
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things he was saying about Ukraine.
Oh my goodness, gracious, that would

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that was? That was so over
the top, Like I I I A'll

418
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never forget how bad that was.
But so all right, so all right,

419
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just is anyone an expert on our
Founding fathers? Is anyone a history

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expert? Do you believe the Founding
Fathers incentivize assassination? Do you believe that's

421
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the case. Now, I'm curious
to hear him make this case. I

422
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now, he didn't want anyone to
come up to him pretending to be security

423
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experts. I guess if anybody was, you know, in the military and

424
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with security forces, I don't know
if they would be allowed. Hey,

425
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:25.480
I was security forces for I don't
care. I don't care. I got

426
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some conservatives and other people I'm not
gonna name the other people who who?

427
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Okay, all right, So if
that's the way we're going to go,

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can someone come up to you and
maybe call into question your your belief that

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the founding fathers incentivize assassination. Maybe
that's true, but let's see how he

430
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explains it. Originally, you could
have your political opponent as your vice president,

431
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which would incentivize someone to knock off
the president by the hand of God.

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After some years it was changed.
Things changed and the vice president was

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handpicked by the president, so that
if someone knocked him off, then his

434
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:21.360
hand picked man became president. Now
that hasn't meant that they'd get someone exactly

435
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the same, and most of time
it hadn't been. You know that they

436
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sometimes you pick a guy who's not
on the other team, but he's kind

437
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of on the other team within the
party. So like when John F.

438
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Kennedy got shot, we didn't get
another John F. Kennedy. When Abe

439
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:42.159
Lincoln was shot, we didn't get
another Abe Lincoln after him, and so

440
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forth. But and I can say
a lot about the history of assassinations and

441
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presidents and all that. We talked
about that some other time. Okay,

442
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maybe an interesting perspective. All right, you can, you can make whatever

443
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:05.320
you make of that. I'd have
to do some serious I can kind of

444
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:08.159
see the argument. I can kind
of see the argument. All right.

445
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Okay, let let's see where this
goes. Now, this is from the

446
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:22.159
Federalist. A source familiar with Trump
security detail tells the Federalists that the former

447
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:27.960
and future president's detail has been asking
for beefed up protection and resources for weeks,

448
00:36:29.159 --> 00:36:34.159
but has been rebuffed time and again
by Biden's Department of Homeland Security.

449
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The DHS, which oversees Secret Service
Protective Detail, wasn't responsive to those requests.

450
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Okay, now I have heard this. Let me see. I'm gonna

451
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do a little research here live on
the air. All Right, did the

452
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DHS deny request from the Trump security
team for additional security personnel? All right?

453
00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:31.360
Yeah, that that's at this point
we're not going to get anywhere.

454
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:37.480
Okay, hang on, let's see
if I can that that that search is

455
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:40.840
not going to work. Okay,
let me try a different search thing here,

456
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:53.000
Let me try a different okay here, uh okay, Now this one

457
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:58.000
is saying, I get the facts
verifying claims made about security at Trump rally.

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All Right, the investigation into the
attempted assassination of Donald Trump at a

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rally and Butler Pennsylvania continues. The
House Oversight Committee will be brief by Secret

460
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Service tomorrow. Regarding the shooting,
there have been a lot of claims made

461
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on security. There have been a
lot of claims made on security at the

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event. Our National Investigation Unit is
getting the facts on what is true and

463
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what isn't. We know that the
shooter was on a rooftop outside of the

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SEC security perimeter. Sources through the
Associated Press the press that he climbed the

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ladder to get to the rooftop.
We still don't know, though, how

466
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he was able to get there without
being stopped by law enforcement. There's been

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speculation about why the building climbed,
that the shooter climbed was not covered by

468
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security. A source with the investigation
told CNN that a local counter sniper team

469
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were supposed to be at that building
and that it was noted as a designated

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spot in the operational plan. The
Pennsylvania State Police says there weren't They were

471
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not responsible for the area. Another
accusation being made online is that Homeland Security

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denied request made by Donald Trump's team
to increase SECURITYS Security secretary said that is

473
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false. He even doubled down,
saying they enhanced security back in June and

474
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no additional requests were made for more
security. So here's a pastor standing behind

475
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a pulpit making an accusation. I
do a five minute Google well fifteen second

476
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:35.159
Google search, and the first source
I come up with where they're investigating these

477
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:45.000
claims, they quote the ACTUALS Security
secretary who says it's false and even doubled

478
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:50.199
down, saying the enhanced security back
in June and no additional request were made

479
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:55.199
for more security. We have new
information about a post making rounds on social

480
00:39:55.199 --> 00:40:00.159
media. The poster claims to be
from the sniper the photo. It says

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his name is Jonathan Willis and that
he had crooks in his sight for at

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least three minutes, but Security Service
refused to give him order to take out

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the shooter. Our partners at FactCheck
dot org says the Secret Service says the

484
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claim is categorically false and they have
no employee by that name. So I

485
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:25.440
don't remember he said they're looking right
at him. They're looking right at him.

486
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This says, wait a minute,
wait a minute, that's already being

487
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called into question. All right,
Law enforcement sources told the Associated Press that

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they had reports of a suspicious person
and went on a search for him.

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An officer climbed to the roof and
encountered crooks who turns towards him. The

490
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:47.880
officer couldn't pull out his own weapon
at the moment, so he retreated.

491
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That's when crooks fired shots at the
former president. As the FBI continues to

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investigate, we will get a clear
picture of what happened at that rally and

493
00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:00.119
the days and weeks are leading up
to it. Let me state it categorically

494
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:07.559
again, no way should a pastor
stand behind the pulpit talking about current events

495
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:14.800
and either either throwing out wild speculation, making accusations that turn out not to

496
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be accurate, or just false.
He made it sound like that the Biden

497
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:25.000
administration, that the Biden administration somehow
denied enhanced security. That is a massive

498
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:31.000
accusation. If it turns out to
be true, then obviously there needs to

499
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be accountability. If it turns out
not to be true, every pastor and

500
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:43.480
Christian claiming that will need to apologize. All right, I'm going to back

501
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:52.360
that up one more time, but
and I can say a lot about the

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00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:55.000
history of assassinations and presidents and all
that. We talked about that some other

503
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times. Now, this is a
This is from the Federalist. A source

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00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:06.320
familiar with Trump's security detail tells the
Federalists that the former and future president's detail

505
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:12.159
has been asking for beefed up protection
and resources for weeks, but has been

506
00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:16.840
They've been asking for beefed up resources
for weeks. And you hear the woman

507
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in the congregation exactly now, if
his information is true, then her exactly

508
00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:34.159
is well warranted. If his information
is fraudulent, like I've already got information

509
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:38.000
here, calling that completely into question, then lazy and gentlemen, he just

510
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:47.000
led his person in the church to
believe something that's completely fraudulent. Buff time

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and again by Biden's Department of Homeland
Security. The DHS, which oversees Secret

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00:42:53.920 --> 00:43:00.320
Service Protective Detail, wasn't responsive to
those requests for more resources. And the

513
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:05.280
question is, was Biden's regime behind
the attack or did it deliberately do everything

514
00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:15.440
it could to allow it to Oh
wow, was the Biden administration behind the

515
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:20.639
attack or did everything in their power
to allow it? That is an absolute

516
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:27.360
direct accusation. And if it's not
true. You're literally bearing false witness and

517
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:31.519
this is happening inside a church.
Now what this is what blows my mind

518
00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:37.280
about Christianity. If that man is
caught in any kind of sin, it'll

519
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:40.639
be the end. But you can
get up there and do this and nothing.

520
00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:45.000
You can just continue on in your
ministry and be powerful and successful.

521
00:43:53.719 --> 00:44:01.639
Happened? That's a legit question.
All should tell you this. The new

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00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:10.840
head of secret Service is a d
I appointed woman who admitted that her top

523
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:15.199
priority was not to pick the best
people to protect the president, but to

524
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:22.960
add a bunch of queers and women. Oh wow, now we're going to

525
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:29.519
use a derogatory term to refer to
someone's sexual preferences. Oh my goodness,

526
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:36.320
gracious, a bunch of homosexuals and
women, I get are women in the

527
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:43.320
same category as homosexuals. They shouldn't
be on a security team. Now,

528
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:45.719
I don't even know if that's true. I don't even know if that if

529
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:47.960
that, even if that accusations,
you shouldn't add it's true by all means,

530
00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:52.119
fact check it. Do your own
research and see if it's true that.

531
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:54.199
Hey, my number one priority is
not to hire the best people,

532
00:44:54.199 --> 00:45:10.639
but to hire homosexuals. And women? Oh Man, hang on, did

533
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:29.119
the head of the DEI, I'm
gonna do some oh man, their top

534
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:59.199
priority Okay, hang on wasn't security
but to hire to hire homosexuals and women.

535
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:01.599
I don't know if that's even going
to come close to finding anything.

536
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:20.199
Uh yeah, I'm not finding Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna god. Did

537
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:25.000
is he saying DEI as far as
like the diversity type? Is he?

538
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:29.039
Is he saying like? Okay,
that that does that? The woman who's

539
00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:32.280
in charge is a DEI higher,
like a diversity higher. Let me let

540
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:36.480
me back that up a little bit. That's a crazy accusation here. Let

541
00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:37.599
me let me let's lets see if
we can find out, Execle what this

542
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:43.719
accusation is behind the attack or did
it deliberately do everything it could to allow

543
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:49.719
it to happen. That's a legit
question. Al should tell you this.

544
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:58.440
The new head of secret Service,
is it? Okay? The new head

545
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:01.000
of secret Service is a d I
hire. Okay that that that is what

546
00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:15.679
I'm saying. Okay, so did
the head of the Secret Service? Glad?

547
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:17.360
I backed that up because I was
making I was I was referring to

548
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:22.400
the d I. Yeah, I
did not catch the kind of the idea

549
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:32.119
there. Did the head of the
of the Secret Service say their priority isn't

550
00:47:36.440 --> 00:48:02.280
security but to hire homosexuals and women? Man, this is crazy. Okay,

551
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:08.960
I'm not I'm not seeing here.
I gotta see here. That's not

552
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:15.800
Biden calls for an independent investigation into
the Secret Service fail. Okay, so

553
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:17.880
there is an acknowledgement that they failed. I think we can all agree there.

554
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:22.199
Yeah. So I don't even know
how to I don't even know if

555
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:23.960
I can find that. I mean, that's just a direct accusation. Now

556
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:28.400
again, what should they do if
you want to make this accusation? What

557
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:30.159
should be cited? Class? Come
on, everyone tell me what should be

558
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:35.360
cited? A primary source, not
a secondary source, A primary source,

559
00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:38.000
so that I can go look now, maybe maybe it's on the video.

560
00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:42.079
Maybe it's on the video. Maybe
that's what I'm missing here, because the

561
00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:46.800
video is doing like a slide here, like a like a PowerPoint presentation.

562
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:51.320
So let me see here, let
me see here if I can. I'm

563
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:54.960
just gonna go fast forward really quick. All right, here we go,

564
00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:13.119
all right, here we go,
here we go. Okay, here we

565
00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:28.480
go. Okay, Yeah, I'm
looking to see if they show it we'll

566
00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:31.599
keep listening. I don't know.
He doesn't state it, so if there

567
00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:35.360
is a if they put something on
the screen, then I would not know.

568
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:37.480
I would not know, so because
I want to be fair. If

569
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:39.400
he's got the actual quote where the
person like, Hey, I don't care,

570
00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:43.800
I'm ahead of the Secret Service and
I don't care about security. I

571
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:51.880
just want to hire homosexuals and women, then obviously we would want that quote.

572
00:49:53.000 --> 00:50:00.599
D I appointed woman who admitted that
her top priority was not to pick

573
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the best people to protect the president, but to add a bunch of queers

574
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:10.000
and women. Wow. What'd you
turn on? Yes? And if you

575
00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:22.599
saw that, what'd you see a
bunch of women? Wow? Now hear

576
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:25.559
someone say wow. They're saying wow, because like I can't believe this is

577
00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:28.679
true. Hey saying when you turn
on the TV? Or say, what'd

578
00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:31.159
you see a bunch of women?
Well, I don't know, sir.

579
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:36.920
I served in the United States Military, and I worked with women. Oh

580
00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:44.760
my partner on security Forces who was
in our mobile unit where we drove around

581
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:47.719
different locations to ensure that things were
secure. We're kind of like the mobile

582
00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:52.039
unit, either on the flight line
orherever we were located. Oh, it

583
00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:57.280
was a woman. Oh. And
when I was put on a security detail

584
00:50:57.559 --> 00:51:05.119
to protect a hospital during desert storm, the person with me carrying an M

585
00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:09.159
sixteen was a woman. Oh,
but I guess you know women can't do

586
00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:14.800
the job, right? Is that
the implication here women shouldn't be on a

587
00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:19.519
security detail. I guess women shouldn't
be in the military. Is that the

588
00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:30.400
they're not they're not capable? Is
that the case? Now? No offense

589
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:40.559
women, No offense. But I
want big burly men like Charlie here surrounding

590
00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:45.880
me. No offense to you men. I don't want somebody like me.

591
00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:52.039
I want somebody at least a head
taller than me and weighs at least as

592
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:55.559
much I weigh. But it's muscle
and not fat. Say y'all admit it.

593
00:51:55.920 --> 00:51:59.480
How many of you menmit that?
I mean, if you women,

594
00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:05.599
women enough a mid that But this
is some of you seen this. But

595
00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:07.360
I just want you to listen to
what happened and watch and listen to the

596
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:10.760
rally. Right, we couldn't see
him, but we could hear him.

597
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:17.239
So we walked up in probably five
to seven minutes of Trump speaking. I'm

598
00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:22.559
estimating here. I have no idea
you know, but we noticed the guy

599
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:30.280
crawling army you know, bear crawling
up the roof of the building beside us,

600
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:34.079
fifty feet away from him. So
we're standing there, you know,

601
00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:37.320
we're pointing. We're pointing at the
guy crawling up the roof. And he

602
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:39.079
had a gun, right, he
had a rifle. We could clearly see

603
00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:44.880
him with a rifle. Absolutely,
we're pointing at him. The police are

604
00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:46.679
down there running around on the ground. We're like, hey, man,

605
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:51.360
there's guy on the roof with the
rifle. And the police were like,

606
00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:53.039
huh what, you know, like
like they didn't know what was going on.

607
00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:55.119
You know, We're like, hey, right here on the roof,

608
00:52:55.159 --> 00:52:58.440
we can see him from right here. We see him, you know,

609
00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:02.280
he's crawling. And next thing,
you know, I'm like, I'm thinking

610
00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:05.920
to myself, I'm like, why
is Trump still speaking? Why have they

611
00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:09.119
not pulled him off the stage.
I'm standing there pointing at him for you

612
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:13.559
know, two three minutes. Secret
Service is looking at us from the top

613
00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:16.199
of the barn. I'm pointing at
that roof, just standing there like this,

614
00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:22.360
and next thing, you know,
five shots ring out. Your son

615
00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:27.480
where the Schultz came from, not
going on the roe hundred and he was

616
00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:30.159
up there for a couple of minutes. He was up there for a couple

617
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:31.920
of minutes, absolutely at least three
to four minutes. And you were telling

618
00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:36.599
at least we were telling the police
we were pointing at him. For the

619
00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:38.719
Secret Service who were looking at us
from the top of the barn, they

620
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:40.920
were looking at us the whole time
when we were standing by that tree.

621
00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:45.519
Could they binoculars they see? Probably
not, because the roof, the way

622
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:50.639
that the slope plan he was behind
where they could see. But why is

623
00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:54.920
there not Secret Service on all of
these roofs here? Now a couple of

624
00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:59.400
things. Remember Secret Service was supposed
to be there, he admitted. At

625
00:53:59.480 --> 00:54:04.119
least the Secret Service agents he's referring
to could not see. And second,

626
00:54:04.440 --> 00:54:07.159
remember, according to the report that
we read, an officer see. This

627
00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:10.159
is why this is the kind of
thing you can't do in church, because

628
00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:15.000
you're just creating all of this suspicion
and speculation. When when you and all

629
00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:20.280
you just start doing more research and
immediately we're getting conflicting information. That's why

630
00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:22.599
the church has to be the source
of going Wait, wait, wait,

631
00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:25.360
wait, wait, let's wait till
the investigation. But we've got at least

632
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:30.880
one report where a police officer did
climb up there, confronted the shooter,

633
00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:34.280
tried to get the gun out of
his hoster, could not retreated, and

634
00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:38.639
then boom. Immediately the shooter shot
at President Trump and then almost instantaneously was

635
00:54:38.639 --> 00:54:50.039
taking down by Secret Service sniper.
So now obviously something went wrong. But

636
00:54:50.159 --> 00:54:53.760
just remember, because something goes wrong
because there's failure, doesn't then rise to

637
00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:59.119
oh it was a conspiracy. And
then he made the at least assumption,

638
00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:04.559
was the Biden administration behind this or
did they allow it? Now, now

639
00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:08.400
it's getting conspiratorial. You're making accusations, you're making applications, and this is

640
00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:19.519
all happening inside a church on a
Sunday. I mean, this is not

641
00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:22.639
a big place. Did you see. I mean obviously everyone when the shooting

642
00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:27.039
started, everyone was very panicked.
Oh did you see what happened to him

643
00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:29.760
at all? Oh? Yeah,
they blue his head off. Okay,

644
00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:31.920
sorry, secret Service blues head off. Okay, we'd just be carefully because

645
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:36.400
we don't quite know who's watching.
But you're pretty sure they shot the guy

646
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:39.159
absolutely, Okay, yep, you
saw that happened, yep, yep,

647
00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:43.880
okay, yep. And did you
see them go up to him afterwards or

648
00:55:44.480 --> 00:55:46.679
they Yeah, they crawled up on
the roof. They had their guns pointed

649
00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:49.960
at him, make sure he was
dead. He was dead, and that

650
00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:58.639
was it. It was over.
There's no way anytime that is happening.

651
00:55:59.639 --> 00:56:04.039
Who whatever it is is on the
stage is down. He would have been

652
00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:07.559
surrounded the way they surrounded him after
the shots fired, before the shots fired,

653
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:12.760
and got him off stage. Do
you hear the people in the church

654
00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:17.840
exactly like everyone's buying into Oh see
something, There was something sinister. There

655
00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:22.960
was something going on right, not
just failure, not just that human beings

656
00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:28.880
mess up, that security things break
down. Now, there's no excuse for

657
00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:31.400
it, and people need to be
held responsible, but it doesn't necessarily mean

658
00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:36.599
it's some nefarious plot. Now,
if you can prove that it's a nefarious

659
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:39.239
plot, then by all means,
let's expose it, let's get the people

660
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:45.840
responsible, and let's hold trial justice
being done. I'm all for that,

661
00:56:45.079 --> 00:56:50.639
I'm all for investigating, I'm all
for the questions being asked in the appropriate

662
00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:53.679
place. But is this what the
church should be engaged in? This is

663
00:56:53.719 --> 00:56:58.400
what the church is supposed to be
doing. That's the question. That's why

664
00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:04.360
we're monitoring this to see how other
church is going to respond. What is

665
00:57:04.360 --> 00:57:07.400
the philological perspective? What is the
biblical perspective? Again, I think just

666
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:13.519
Christianity one oh one is that as
Christians, we do not throw out wild

667
00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:19.000
speculation, accusation. We do not
bear false witness, We do not share

668
00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:28.960
any false information or lies. I'm
not pulling the fingers at anybody, but

669
00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:32.760
I'm telling you, if they claim
after an investigation that someone wasn't on the

670
00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:42.119
take and there wasn't compromise, they're
lying. I'm not accusing anyone, but

671
00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:45.559
this is what they must find in
the investigation or they're lying. They must

672
00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:49.719
find that someone was on the take. If they don't find that, then

673
00:57:49.719 --> 00:57:52.280
they're lying. So now you've called
even the investigation, Now you're calling it

674
00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:55.800
into question. This is just this
is what's going on in a church.

675
00:57:57.039 --> 00:58:13.960
I don't understand. I I this
is not possible without compromised security. Now

676
00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:15.440
I got a brain enough, I
got eyeballs. I can see it for

677
00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:21.239
myself. But I'm telling you that
security experts are saying the same thing already.

678
00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:27.480
Here's another one. We as Trump
starved, I noticed two officers that

679
00:58:27.480 --> 00:58:35.320
were looking for. Please note video
of average people saying certain things. He

680
00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:38.400
keeps saying security experts are saying these
things. Will play the video of the

681
00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:45.880
security experts. Identify the security experts
and give their credentials. Who are the

682
00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:53.159
security experts? What are their credentials
and what are they basing their conclusion on?

683
00:58:54.440 --> 00:59:00.800
Personal experience? Now we a security
expert could say this is how it

684
00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:05.639
should have went down, this is
how it went down, and something is

685
00:59:05.719 --> 00:59:09.719
wrong. A security expert cannot just
then determine someone is on the take.

686
00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:14.159
There was an nefurious pot. You
can't draw that. You can draw the

687
00:59:14.199 --> 00:59:17.760
conclusion based on this is how you
set up a parameter. The perimeter should

688
00:59:17.760 --> 00:59:22.280
extend this far. This is what
you should do. When I was security

689
00:59:22.320 --> 00:59:27.400
forces that sometimes when we were being
tested or there would be an exercise,

690
00:59:27.400 --> 00:59:30.199
we'd be challenged. Okay, this
is what happened. Okay, we're gonna

691
00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:32.000
set up a perimeter where we know
that will give you a map of the

692
00:59:32.039 --> 00:59:35.760
location. Okay, where do you
set up your parameter? Where are you

693
00:59:35.800 --> 00:59:37.840
going to set where are you gonna
set up this, where's going to be

694
00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:40.000
this, where's gonna be your are
you going to control entry into the area,

695
00:59:40.079 --> 00:59:43.719
who are you and you have to
then map it all out and telling

696
00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:45.960
them, Okay, in this situation, this is what you would do,

697
00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:46.800
this is what you would do,
this is what you would do, this

698
00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:50.679
is where you would sit and and
those are things you have to do.

699
00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:54.400
And security forces. So now someone
with that background, and by no means

700
00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:58.320
even though I was security forces,
I wasn't there. That was not my

701
00:59:58.400 --> 01:00:00.400
primary job. I was only supposed
to be there a short time. And

702
01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:04.039
I won't go into all the details
and all the things that happen. But

703
01:00:04.519 --> 01:00:08.679
the point is is I'm not even
all I even with my limited knowledge,

704
01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:12.320
if I was to draw any conclusion, I could just say, well,

705
01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:15.519
this is the way it should work, but I get but that would be

706
01:00:15.519 --> 01:00:19.960
basing it on certain situations. This
is a different situation. So you would

707
01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:25.599
have to have someone who's who's very
knowledgeable of current security procedures and say this

708
01:00:25.800 --> 01:00:31.360
was a breakdown in these procedures.
Now, the breakdown does not necessarily mean

709
01:00:31.960 --> 01:00:39.159
nefarious plot, compromise someone on the
tape that is accusatory, that is making

710
01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:44.199
it and then saying if the investigations
don't say that they're lying, that that

711
01:00:44.320 --> 01:00:50.199
is making this is just filled with
accusation, possibly bearing false witness suspicion.

712
01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:54.440
This is just I don't this is
what the church cannot do. This is

713
01:00:54.960 --> 01:01:00.960
this is what I did not want
to happen thing or somebody. I was

714
01:01:01.239 --> 01:01:05.960
so I was looking around myself and
seeing a guy on top of one of

715
01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:10.800
the buildings, go in between one
building to the next, and I went

716
01:01:10.840 --> 01:01:15.239
and told the officer that he was
up there. And when I went back

717
01:01:15.239 --> 01:01:21.159
to my spot, I heard that
people could still see the person from where

718
01:01:21.159 --> 01:01:24.480
they were standing. So I checked
that out, and I went and went

719
01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:28.800
back to tell the officer that if
heat came over there, he could see

720
01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:32.000
them. And when I turned my
backs when the shots, when the shots

721
01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:36.440
started, and then it was it
took me a second or two to figure

722
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:39.639
out exactly what it was. And
then it was just getting out of there

723
01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:46.639
and helping helping some some other person
out with her child. And we got

724
01:01:46.679 --> 01:01:50.719
out and that was that was the
end of that, and I went and

725
01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:57.199
left and that was all. So
the viewers have some perspective behind us,

726
01:01:57.320 --> 01:02:01.119
Okay, is the American Glass Research
Company? Okay? Can you kind of

727
01:02:01.159 --> 01:02:07.199
describe the building behind us, the
tan building right there? Can you take

728
01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:14.400
a look at it, and then
where was the shooter exactly. There's more

729
01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:19.440
buildings behind the tan building that we
can see, and we were back there

730
01:02:19.639 --> 01:02:25.559
and there's two buildings, two or
three buildings behind that, and he was

731
01:02:25.559 --> 01:02:30.920
on both of them, I assume
both of them when he went on that

732
01:02:30.639 --> 01:02:37.159
small section from one to the other, and that was that was where he

733
01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:42.679
where I last saw him, was
the end of his day. So this

734
01:02:42.719 --> 01:02:51.480
man was able to basically climb to
the next building and you told law enforcement,

735
01:02:51.800 --> 01:02:54.440
hey, there's a guy over there. Correct. I don't know how

736
01:02:54.480 --> 01:02:58.800
he got up there. I don't
know any of that, but I definitely

737
01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:08.559
saw him up there, sir,
and that was all I know. It's

738
01:03:08.599 --> 01:03:16.480
just impossible. Again, I'm all
for the questions as far as these things

739
01:03:16.519 --> 01:03:21.920
need to be investigated, but again, what information is he not saying the

740
01:03:21.920 --> 01:03:25.559
information that I found where an officer
supposedly did crawl up there, did confront

741
01:03:25.559 --> 01:03:29.400
the guy, could not get his
gun out of the holster, retreated,

742
01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:31.880
and then immediately found Now I don't
know if that information is accurate, but

743
01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:37.000
see immediately we've got conflicting information.
Since this is then where the church starts

744
01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:44.719
navigating or starts trafficking, I should
say in suspicion and speculation. I just

745
01:03:44.960 --> 01:03:49.039
don't know if that's the church's job. When confronting what's happening in the culture.

746
01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:52.280
We should look at it from a
more biblical philological perspective. That's all

747
01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:54.239
I'm saying. Now. There may
be a place to talk about these things,

748
01:03:54.320 --> 01:03:59.239
right, there may be a place. I don't know if this is

749
01:03:59.239 --> 01:04:02.960
what I would be doing from the
pulpit. Maybe in a podcast, maybe

750
01:04:02.960 --> 01:04:05.800
maybe this would be good stuff to
talk about. But if you're going to

751
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:09.559
even do it in a podcast,
if it's going to be a Christian podcast

752
01:04:09.599 --> 01:04:13.519
doing so, then what you have
to do is ensure that every detail,

753
01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:18.639
every accusation, every question is based
on fact. You have all the facts.

754
01:04:18.719 --> 01:04:23.840
There's no defamation, there's no bearing
false witness, there's no false accusation,

755
01:04:24.039 --> 01:04:27.000
there's no wild speculation. Now,
if you're not a Christian, go

756
01:04:27.079 --> 01:04:31.000
to town, why speculate make things? Just do have a good day,

757
01:04:31.119 --> 01:04:34.559
all right. But for the Christians, we're supposed to speak truth. We're

758
01:04:34.559 --> 01:04:38.719
supposed to put away lying. We're
not supposed to bear false witness. We

759
01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:43.360
are not to be gossiping and slandering
and wild accusations. We are to be

760
01:04:43.679 --> 01:04:47.400
factual and careful and be as why
is as a serpent, and harmless as

761
01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:49.280
a dove, et cetera, et
cetera, et cetera, et cetera,

762
01:04:49.320 --> 01:04:58.840
et cetera. You know all of
the scriptures. This is not this is

763
01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:01.559
exactly what I did not want to
happen. This is what my This is

764
01:05:01.559 --> 01:05:09.960
why I'm spending all of this time
monitoring all of these responses. Now,

765
01:05:10.039 --> 01:05:12.840
once again, we're over an hour. The all of these are going over

766
01:05:12.880 --> 01:05:15.280
an hour, and this is not
what I necessarily want to be spending all

767
01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:16.599
my time on. But at the
same time, and I've been sorry.

768
01:05:16.599 --> 01:05:21.559
I have a bottle cap here from
my water bottle and I keep messing with

769
01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:25.760
it, so I apologize. I
know that's not very professional. I'll throw

770
01:05:25.800 --> 01:05:28.400
that to the site. But I'm
just getting I'm getting kind of just like

771
01:05:28.920 --> 01:05:32.440
I'm getting very animated. On one
hand, I understand what he's trying to

772
01:05:32.440 --> 01:05:35.679
do, like I'm trying not to
be negative, but at the same time,

773
01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:40.119
I'm bought like I'm conflicted. I
do appreciate that, Hey, everyone's

774
01:05:40.159 --> 01:05:42.480
going to show up to church.
This is what everyone's thinking about. So

775
01:05:42.639 --> 01:05:48.079
let's discuss it. Okay, I
understand that the question is there are things

776
01:05:48.079 --> 01:05:53.719
that should govern the way we respond
to it and how we address it from

777
01:05:53.800 --> 01:05:59.440
a Christian perspective. Now, of
course I make mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes,

778
01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:04.079
we're all we all mess up all
so so in the moment, maybe

779
01:06:04.119 --> 01:06:06.800
you could we could call into question
some of this. Now, you may

780
01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:10.679
agree with the way he's approaching it. You may have an argument, No,

781
01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:12.679
this is what the church you're doing. We should be calling out all

782
01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:15.679
these inconsistencies. We should be questioning
everything, we should be challenging everything,

783
01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:19.320
and we should be pointing out what
really happened. But again, I just

784
01:06:19.360 --> 01:06:24.559
think I can. I can push
back and say, but every claim must

785
01:06:24.639 --> 01:06:30.679
be factual. You can be making
accusatory statements from the church, because that's

786
01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:35.360
not what works unless the accusation is
confirmed in the mouth of two or three

787
01:06:35.400 --> 01:06:41.360
witnesses. Now, I do agree
that he could play the audio from and

788
01:06:41.360 --> 01:06:46.320
he's got two witnesses that Hey,
people saw the person and police officers were

789
01:06:46.320 --> 01:06:54.079
notified. Why wasn't something done sooner? What was done? Now, according

790
01:06:54.119 --> 01:06:57.800
to one report, a police officer
did climb up there, obviously, how

791
01:06:57.840 --> 01:07:01.840
long? How long was he notified. Why didn't he immediately instead of going

792
01:07:01.880 --> 01:07:08.159
up there to confront the person.
Why didn't they immediately notify a secret service?

793
01:07:08.199 --> 01:07:11.239
Because if you have different agencies,
just so that if you know this,

794
01:07:11.320 --> 01:07:15.119
if you have say police or local
police or sheriff or secret service,

795
01:07:15.239 --> 01:07:19.039
are they utilizing the same frequency,
are they using different frequencies? Does each

796
01:07:19.119 --> 01:07:24.440
agency have access to the other frequency
so they can immediately call the other frequency

797
01:07:24.440 --> 01:07:28.119
and say hey, hey, hey, and whatever you know, the they're

798
01:07:28.239 --> 01:07:31.320
they're how they're going to use their
call signs, Hey, we've got you

799
01:07:31.360 --> 01:07:35.920
know, whatever the language they're using, whatever their codes they're using. I'm

800
01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:39.280
not going to start, you know, any speculation, but whatever their call

801
01:07:39.400 --> 01:07:42.639
sign is, they call, hey, I've got a possible hostile, I

802
01:07:42.639 --> 01:07:45.920
got a possible suspect, you know, you know, take take the president

803
01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:53.079
down, get him off stage immediately
immediately until we can verify. Now we

804
01:07:53.119 --> 01:07:56.360
can ask those questions and speculate,
but again, we got to be very

805
01:07:56.400 --> 01:08:00.480
careful to ensure that all the information
is accurate. In some cases, we

806
01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:06.239
won't know until an investigation is done, and then there should be some someone's

807
01:08:06.280 --> 01:08:10.280
going to have to answer some very
unpleasant questions. I'm all for that.

808
01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:13.800
So I think you could say,
hey, there's a lot of things about

809
01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:16.680
this that make no sense, and
you probably have a lot of questions this

810
01:08:16.800 --> 01:08:21.159
morning. But as Christians, here's
what we need to do. We cannot

811
01:08:21.520 --> 01:08:28.880
slide into wild speculation, making accusatory
comments, because we want to traffic and

812
01:08:28.640 --> 01:08:31.439
now we want to traffic in truth, accuracy, and we don't want to

813
01:08:31.439 --> 01:08:36.079
bear false witness, and we do
not want to be gossiping and slandering lying

814
01:08:36.119 --> 01:08:40.159
in any way, shape or form. That's what you could then call your

815
01:08:40.199 --> 01:08:45.000
people to do from a biblical perspective, and you could read those scriptures about

816
01:08:45.319 --> 01:08:47.800
speak the truth with your neighbor,
put away lying, bear not false witness.

817
01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:51.000
I could go on and on and
on and on and on about all

818
01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:56.479
the scriptures that would guide that would
be a good scriptural approach. Hey,

819
01:08:56.600 --> 01:08:59.079
hey, there's going to be all
kinds of misinformation, there's going to be

820
01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:01.640
all kinds of falseom frien, there's
going to be wild speculation. Hey hey,

821
01:09:01.920 --> 01:09:05.039
hey, children of God, don't
don't don't go there, don't go

822
01:09:05.319 --> 01:09:10.560
step back. Try to bring peace
to the situation, Try to bring calm,

823
01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:14.479
Try to tell anyone you have influence
on, put away the wild speculation.

824
01:09:14.600 --> 01:09:18.279
Let's wait and let's see. If
these questions are not asked, then

825
01:09:18.359 --> 01:09:21.800
maybe then it'll be appropriate for us
to raise them. But the questions are

826
01:09:21.840 --> 01:09:26.960
already out there, so let's see
how this plays out before we jump in

827
01:09:26.960 --> 01:09:32.479
to the wild speculation. You know, there's a story as true story.

828
01:09:32.560 --> 01:09:36.880
This guy he would climbed he wanted
to see Bill Clinton is back in the

829
01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:43.199
nineties. He wanted to see Bill
Clinton and he couldn't see him, so

830
01:09:43.239 --> 01:09:46.800
he decided he'd get something to look
through and he would climb up the telephone

831
01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:54.560
pole. So he pulls his rifle
with the scope so he can see Bill

832
01:09:54.600 --> 01:09:58.039
Clinton. He's not gonna shoot him. He had no intention. It was

833
01:09:58.119 --> 01:10:02.359
unloaded. They later found he didn't
have enough sense to know that someone up

834
01:10:02.399 --> 01:10:06.560
on a telephone pole with a rifle
looking through the scope isn't going to sit

835
01:10:06.640 --> 01:10:11.239
off. Red Flatball guarantee you one
thing. Billy wasn't on the stage after

836
01:10:11.279 --> 01:10:18.079
they saw him. So shooter was
aboute hundred and fifty yards from Trump on

837
01:10:18.119 --> 01:10:23.439
a rooftop with a direct line of
side of the stage. This is John

838
01:10:23.520 --> 01:10:30.840
Cardio. It defies every security protocol
ever written that this rooftop was not secured

839
01:10:31.239 --> 01:10:35.720
and low, and according to one
report, it was supposed to be.

840
01:10:36.600 --> 01:10:41.479
According to the one report, that
someone seemed to acknowledge that, Now,

841
01:10:41.520 --> 01:10:44.920
why wasn't it. Someone's going to
have to answer that question. I do

842
01:10:44.960 --> 01:10:48.960
agree. It seems to defy most
security protocols that I'm aware of, But

843
01:10:49.039 --> 01:10:51.279
I am, by no means an
expert, not going to pretend to be

844
01:10:51.279 --> 01:10:55.079
an expert in any way, shape
or form. I would think you would

845
01:10:55.119 --> 01:11:02.399
have the parameter pushed further back right, You would think right, and you

846
01:11:02.399 --> 01:11:08.399
would think also, I'm just this
is just now, this is me speculating.

847
01:11:08.520 --> 01:11:11.159
See, this is what you get
into is you would think that there

848
01:11:11.159 --> 01:11:15.760
would have been drones over the area
because those are relatively you know, inexpensive,

849
01:11:16.319 --> 01:11:19.239
and someone would be monitoring the drone
feed and be like, hey,

850
01:11:19.720 --> 01:11:23.880
hey, guys at six o'clock or
three o'clock or you know, we've got

851
01:11:23.960 --> 01:11:27.520
we got we got someone moving,
they're armed. Okay, okay, hey

852
01:11:27.560 --> 01:11:30.199
security security, you know, take
the president down, take the president,

853
01:11:30.439 --> 01:11:32.960
remove, removing, removing, you
know, because a drone would have seen

854
01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:39.119
it instantaneously. So why weren't they
using drones? I don't know, I

855
01:11:39.159 --> 01:11:43.960
get do they ever use drones.
Maybe they never. I know they use

856
01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:49.279
drones and professional wrestling for camera angles. They use drones for that, so

857
01:11:49.640 --> 01:11:54.680
you'll get some some crazy camera angles. Well it's a drone flying around inside

858
01:11:54.760 --> 01:11:59.039
the audit the arena, or if
it's a stadium show. So if they

859
01:11:59.039 --> 01:12:03.600
can use it for good camera angles
for professional wrestling, you think they could

860
01:12:03.720 --> 01:12:06.800
use them for I don't know,
a security detail. That would be the

861
01:12:06.840 --> 01:12:12.039
easiest. You get an aerial footage, someone monitoring the live feed from the

862
01:12:12.039 --> 01:12:14.760
camera. I'm like, hey,
we got a problem here. There's someone

863
01:12:14.760 --> 01:12:18.439
with a gun walking up towards the
area. They're outside the perimeter, but

864
01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:21.640
they're climbing up. Hey, guys, we got a problem now again,

865
01:12:21.720 --> 01:12:24.960
I don't know why they don't.
I don't know why they don't. I

866
01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:29.039
don't. But see, that's just
me speculating. I can't make some but

867
01:12:29.159 --> 01:12:33.399
listen, because I have that question, and because I speculate, doesn't then

868
01:12:33.439 --> 01:12:43.279
allow me to infer accuse, bear
you know, make any you know,

869
01:12:43.399 --> 01:12:47.840
accusatory type comment or even accusatory speculation. I could just say it doesn't make

870
01:12:47.840 --> 01:12:51.520
any sense to me, but I'm
not going to accuse that. That doesn't

871
01:12:51.520 --> 01:12:55.840
necessarily mean that there's a plot or
something nefarious, or someone's on the take,

872
01:12:56.159 --> 01:13:00.640
or the Biden administration had it like
I'm not that is going then.

873
01:13:00.720 --> 01:13:06.439
See you see where the this is
trying to find that balance enforcement personnel,

874
01:13:06.439 --> 01:13:16.239
we're not standing up there and that's
a fact. Uh one fella Jack Soviet

875
01:13:16.319 --> 01:13:21.159
said he was a sniper with a
full rifle kit allowed to bear crawl onto

876
01:13:21.199 --> 01:13:30.800
the closest roof to a presidential nominee
a sniper rifle kit didn't. Now my

877
01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:35.840
understanding is the shooter had an AR
fifteen or an AR fifteen type rifle,

878
01:13:35.880 --> 01:13:41.000
which is not a sniper rifle.
So I don't know did he crawl up

879
01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:44.039
there with a sniper rifle kit?
Did he have a full kit? Like

880
01:13:44.279 --> 01:13:46.319
maybe he did. I don't know
that. If I get I don't know

881
01:13:46.319 --> 01:13:50.439
where that information comes from. My
initial the initial see you see, we'd

882
01:13:50.439 --> 01:13:55.079
have to start fact checking all of
this. That is just where you don't

883
01:13:55.079 --> 01:14:02.520
want to get. John Musk says
extreme incompetence or it was deliberate. I

884
01:14:02.560 --> 01:14:11.640
cannot buy incompetence. So we're gonna
quote Elon Musk, who's just wildly speculating,

885
01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:20.800
and so he's creating the entire vibe
that basically, hey, this was

886
01:14:20.840 --> 01:14:27.960
done on purpose someone, not just
a shooter. There was there were there

887
01:14:27.960 --> 01:14:32.039
were forces beyond the shooter. And
this is what's happening inside a church on

888
01:14:32.119 --> 01:14:44.319
a Sunday. See, this is
where I struggle. See if I was

889
01:14:44.359 --> 01:14:47.600
doing this on a on a podcast
episode, well even then I would question.

890
01:14:47.800 --> 01:14:51.199
I would question the legitimacy of doing
that, even at a Christian podcast.

891
01:14:51.199 --> 01:14:55.119
If it's not a Christian podcast,
just go to town make up every

892
01:14:55.399 --> 01:14:58.880
You can just say whatever you want. Well, actually you can't say whatever

893
01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:02.840
you want because if it reaches the
level of defamation. Example, Alex Jones

894
01:15:03.199 --> 01:15:08.800
sued what a billion dollars whatever,
it was some crazy amount for what hit

895
01:15:08.920 --> 01:15:14.079
his claims about Sandy Hook. So
you can be held responsible for defamation.

896
01:15:14.600 --> 01:15:18.720
You can be legally held responsible when
you're making accusations that are just turned out

897
01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:24.239
not to be anywhere close to the
truth. So even if you're doing on

898
01:15:24.279 --> 01:15:30.920
a podcast, there's legalities about what
you can and cannot say. Either way,

899
01:15:31.159 --> 01:15:39.319
this Secret Service leadership must resign.
I could show numerous videos like this,

900
01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:45.640
people could see the man up there, that's after he's already been shot.

901
01:15:45.640 --> 01:15:47.920
And killed. I think that gives
him from the guy who's see what's

902
01:15:47.960 --> 01:15:56.039
bad for him. Now, I
just want to remind you a few things.

903
01:15:56.159 --> 01:16:00.159
Some of you have already thought of
this, but Biden told donors the

904
01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:05.640
other day it's time to put Trump
in the bullseye. You remember when Sarah

905
01:16:05.640 --> 01:16:16.840
Palin talked about putting someone in the
crosshairs, and I believe Biden did say

906
01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:20.560
that, and I believe Biden has
apologized for that, And I believe no

907
01:16:20.560 --> 01:16:25.039
one should be using that kind of
language about their political opponent, putting in

908
01:16:25.079 --> 01:16:28.279
the bull's eye, put them across. I know that may be just a

909
01:16:28.439 --> 01:16:31.039
statement, but in our current climate, nobody should be saying that. So

910
01:16:31.079 --> 01:16:33.960
Biden shouldn't be saying that. But
again, go back to what people were

911
01:16:33.960 --> 01:16:39.119
saying during the Obama administration and what
people said about Biden, what people said

912
01:16:39.119 --> 01:16:42.039
about class. I mean, this
happens on both the left and the right.

913
01:16:42.119 --> 01:16:45.479
But yeah, as Christians, we
shouldn't be saying anything along those lines.

914
01:16:45.760 --> 01:16:47.520
Now I'm going to stop right there
because we're at seventy six minutes.

915
01:16:48.760 --> 01:16:54.720
Again, that's called July fourteenth,
twenty twenty four, current events. Gregory

916
01:16:54.800 --> 01:16:57.000
A. Miller, please go listen
to the rest of it. I would

917
01:16:57.039 --> 01:17:00.560
challenge you to go listen to the
rest of it so that you can hear

918
01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:04.079
it for yourself and he and and
you know, by all means, follow

919
01:17:04.159 --> 01:17:06.640
him, by all means, follow
the Church. I mean, I'm not

920
01:17:06.680 --> 01:17:12.279
trying to make some massive derogatory comment. I just I mean I got some

921
01:17:12.359 --> 01:17:15.439
problems with some of it, and
I think it's okay because, again my

922
01:17:15.840 --> 01:17:23.279
argument is from the Christian perspective,
we have clear guidelines and how we should

923
01:17:23.279 --> 01:17:31.399
approach it. No bearing false witness, no false accusations, not being accusatory,

924
01:17:31.439 --> 01:17:36.479
speculative, conspiratorial, put away lying, only speak the truth. Do

925
01:17:36.600 --> 01:17:44.439
not be participating in gossip and slander
and just wild suspicion. Don't be creating

926
01:17:44.479 --> 01:17:48.479
a narrative that's only going to create
you know, suspicion, paranoia, and

927
01:17:48.960 --> 01:17:55.560
accusatory emotions from the people in the
pew. When some of the information,

928
01:17:55.600 --> 01:18:00.560
well some of the information we clearly
verified, it's just not accurate, Like

929
01:18:00.600 --> 01:18:12.039
you can't you just you can't do
that. Now, my feelings are is

930
01:18:12.079 --> 01:18:16.279
that we're going to get more and
more of these kinds of responses from Christians

931
01:18:16.279 --> 01:18:20.439
and churches over the next couple of
days going all the way up, I

932
01:18:20.479 --> 01:18:24.560
believe into next Sunday. I could
be wrong, but that's what I feel

933
01:18:25.239 --> 01:18:28.800
now. I know I've received emails
from a number of ministries were like my

934
01:18:29.079 --> 01:18:31.279
where they basically, here's my response
to the shooting. Here's the three minute

935
01:18:31.319 --> 01:18:35.319
video, five minute video. I've
been primarily focusing on the type of response

936
01:18:36.279 --> 01:18:41.720
that's being published on the sermon's two
point oh app because that has remained consistent

937
01:18:42.039 --> 01:18:45.640
with our twenty twenty four sermons two
point our Sermons two point oh app sermon

938
01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:51.560
challenge. So that's why I'm mainly
maintain monitoring that platform, because that's what

939
01:18:51.560 --> 01:18:56.439
we're supposed to be doing this entire
year. So I don't know what you've

940
01:18:56.439 --> 01:18:59.800
heard, I don't know what your
thoughts are on all of this, but

941
01:19:00.399 --> 01:19:02.359
please note, at least up to
this point, the name of the individual

942
01:19:02.399 --> 01:19:11.319
who died never mentioned, never mentioned
his name. Not only that, there's

943
01:19:11.359 --> 01:19:15.680
been no philological He mentioned the hand
of God, but I mean there was

944
01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:20.640
no real there's been no biblical or
philological approach to any of this. Now

945
01:19:20.960 --> 01:19:25.079
I'm cutting it off, so you
have to go listen to the rest to

946
01:19:25.119 --> 01:19:28.560
see. He may end it that
way, and it would be maybe that

947
01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:32.880
may be fascinating, and maybe if
he does get to some biblical philological perspectives,

948
01:19:33.039 --> 01:19:36.319
maybe we will review that at a
later time. But there you have

949
01:19:36.359 --> 01:19:45.199
it. That's what's going on inside
the church and churches. Now again,

950
01:19:45.239 --> 01:19:48.920
I'm not extrapolating that response and blaming
all churches or pinning them all with the

951
01:19:48.920 --> 01:19:53.840
same brush. I'm not doing that. Every church is going to respond to

952
01:19:53.880 --> 01:19:58.199
this in variety of ways. Keep
up with how it's going. You'll see

953
01:19:58.239 --> 01:20:00.960
how churches are thinking in the present, and I may see where the church

954
01:20:01.039 --> 01:20:06.039
is headed in the future. All
Right, thanks for listening. You can

955
01:20:06.039 --> 01:20:12.000
email me at news i F at
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956
01:20:12.079 --> 01:20:16.680
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everyone, Have a great night. God bless