Trump, AI, and the Future of Education

0:02 Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central. Good afternoon, everyone. It is Tuesday, April the twenty second, twenty twenty five. It is currently four nine pm Central Time, and I'm coming to you live from the Theology Central studio located right here in Abilene, Texas. Now, you may not know this, You may even want to deny it, you may even want to push back. But I believe you and I that we are currently standing on the edge of a transformation that is so profound it could literally reshape not just how children learn in classrooms, but how believers grow in churches. Now, I know that sounds crazy. I know that sounds maybe high parbolic, that I'm exaggerating it, but I truly believe we are on the edge of a transformation that is so profound it could reshape not just how your children other people's children will learn in classrooms.

1:17 It could even reshape how children are learning in homeschooling situations. But it could even impact forget, I'm saying it almost as if it could happen. I think it's going to happen, So maybe I should state it this way. We're standing on the edge of a transformation so profound that it will reshape how children learn in classrooms, how children learn at home, and how believers grow in churches. I'm going to be very dogmatic. I'm not going to put it as a possibility. I'm going to say it's going to happen. Now Here is what's going on. Maybe you're aware of this, maybe you're not. A draft executive order from the Trump administration proposes the integration of artificial intelligence. Are you ready for this? Are you ready? Let me read it one more time. I know I stopped myself in the middle, but I want to make sure you hear this right.

2:18 So tell your kids to be quiet, tell your spouse to be quiet. Pull over to the side of the road. Listen to me. A draft executive order from the Trump administration proposes the integration of artificial intelligence into every level of K through twelve education. Now you may not think that's significant. I think it's significant. Let me read it one more time. A draft executive order from the Trump administration proposes the integration of artificial intelligence into every level of K through twelve education. AI will no longer just be a buzzword or a tech gimmick. It could soon become a daily partner. And how students learn math, write essays, prepare for careers, and even engage in ethical reasoning? Do I need to read that one more time? Artificial intelligence AI could soon become a daily partner and how students learn math? Okay, I don't care about math, so what right?

3:39 But all right? How they learn math, write essays, prepare for careers. But come, I try to think about this, even engage in ethical reasoning? Could AI be the very thing that leads people into ethical res into the future. But here's the question. I don't believe anyone is asking. If this kind of artificial driven, personalized, immersive education becomes the norm and public schools, what happens when the church gets left behind? Now, this isn't a draft executive order from the Trump administration that could completely change, completely, transform completely, maybe revolutionize education in the public schools as far as artificial intelligence is concerned. So let's say kids from K through twelve they're going to school, it's artificial intelligence, artificial intelligence, artificial intelligence. It's guiding it, it's driving it, it's doing it.

4:49 And then those kids on Sunday get in the car and drive to a church that is completely clueless about artificial intelligence, is not utilizing it. What happens when the church is left behind? Will it have a Will it be a positive? Will it be a negative? Those are things we're gonna have to talk about. What if when those kids get to church, the Sunday morning sermons remain static, they remain in personal lectures while students are being discipled by AI tutors at school. So let's consider that. So what happens when the kids get to church and the Sunday morning sermon is static, it's in person, it's just an impersonal lecture. But those same kids, those same people are, even if they're now older, they grew up in school where it's AIAI. These are the kids who are now being discipled by AI tutors who adapt to their minds, their moods, and their motivations. They go to school and they have an AI tutor who's adapting things to the way their mind thinks, to the mood they may be in in that particular moment, to what their motivations are.

6:02 They're used to that. But they go to church and church is not even not even utilizing AI. It's just the same way it's always been done. Now some people will say, well that's the way the church has to do that. We could get into a discussion, but is there not going to be a massive disconnect. What if a small group still debates over printed study guides while classrooms simulate historical debates with responsive AI generated characters. What happens when the church clings to analog methods while the world gets reprogrammed. So what I'm going to try to do in this episode is We're going to explore the implications of this proposed executive order, what it says, how it might unfold in schools, And then we're going to take a really bold step. We're going to win imagine what it could look like if it shows up inside the church. How it would impact sermons, how would impact small groups, How would impact Sunday School? How would impact discipleship?

7:13 How would it even impact pastoral care? Is this a tool for transformation or is it a trap of substitution? Will AI serve the church? Will it reshape the church? Will it replace the church? Will it turn the church into something that we no longer even recognize or know? Now? I don't want this episode to be about fear hyperbole. You know, we don't want the great AI panic of twenty twenty five. But I want to talk about something in a very clear way, hopefully a creative way, Hopefully in an encouraging way, Hopefully in a way that we'll get us to ask questions, to consider, to think where are we headed. One of the things we've been doing in twenty twenty five is talking about artificial intelligence over and over and over and over. And I have so integrated artificial intelligence into everything I do in this podcast that I speak about it, it's just it's there. It's everywhere.

8:25 Because I utilize AI continually, there's no way to escape it anymore. In my mind, those who still don't use it. And guess what we see. We see sermon after sermon after sermon after sermon after sermon after sermon after sermon that I take give it to artificial intelligence, and artificial intelligence rips it into shreds. This sermon is illogical, it's factually incorrect, it's misapplying scripture, it's hermoneutically broken. AI tears all of these sermons apart, which tells me the church is not utilizing AI. Because a pastor could write a sermon, Give it to Ai, and Ai'd be like, well, that is not true, that is not true that. No. C. S. Lewis never said that. No Spurgeon never said that, and they could fix all of those problems. The church is still not using it at large. But now we're facing something happening within society. So let's jump in. Are you ready, Let's try to look at this carefully. So first the truck, let's talk about the executive order. Right, the Trump administration is considering a draft executive order titled Advancing Artificial Intelligence Education for American Youth. It is aiming to integrate artificial intelligence into K through twelve education across the United States.

9:51 Doesn't matter what state you live in. This would impact the state you live. It doesn't matter if it's Texas, doesn't matter if it's Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Indiana, it doesn't matter where it's at. This would impact if your kids go to public school. Now you can say, well, my kids are homeschooled. Help it. Are you going to just ignore what's happening? Are you not going to go wait a minute, how should this impact how I'm homeschooling my children? The point is this could have an impact again across the United States. Now, this is still in the predecisional phase, so we're way ahead of this story, right.

10:33 So it's not been issued JED. It's in the predecisional stage. This initiative outlines this is what it's going to try to do, a comprehensive strategy to prepare students for an AI driven future. So those in the Trump administration are looking into the future going it's going to be AI driven. AI is going to drive the future. Well, if AI is going to drive the future, we have to redo education completely so the kids are not left behind. We've got to have them ready for a future that's going to be driven by AI. Now, a lot of times people will say, hmm, these self driven cars. Could I get into the backseat of a car that's being driven basically by artificial intelligence? Could I be comfortable? Could I get used to it? Could I ever allow myself to just sit back and relax in a car being driven by AI? I think older people is like, that's crazy.

11:25 I think younger people is like, yeah, I no big deal. But we talk about that. But forget cars. The entire future of humanity is going to be driven by AI. I don't think people may not agree with that. They may think that that's hyperbolic. I'm telling you it's going to be driven by AI. That's where we're headed. You can resist it, you can deny it. I'm telling you that's where it's going. Look, I believe we're I think we're I think we're there. I think we're we're let's say we're not there yet. I think we are there. I can't even see us making it five years, five five to ten years. AI is going to be integrated into everything. So the Trump administration is like, AI is going to drive the future. We've got to change education not to be reactive. We got to do it now. Look, I don't agree with Trump on many things, but this, I think is now. I at least the idea, how it's going to be implemented and what it's going to intel.

12:26 I may not agree with all of that, but I do believe we're going to have to wake up and AI is the future, and if people don't wake up, we're going to be left behind. That's my that's my feelings. Here are some of the key components of the draft Executive Order. The establishment of a White House Task Force on AI education. This will be led by the Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy. Right. This will include Secretaries of Education, Agriculture, Labor, Energy, along with the Space Advisor on AI and cryptocurrency. So they're going to bring all these different people in to establish a White House Task Force on AI education. Right. So that's the first thing. They're going to establish this task Force on AI education. That's the main thing to get right.

13:17 All the different people involved. I'm not going to go through all the names. I'm not going to go through all the departments again. Just the first thing you need to know. This proposed Executive Order would establish a White House Task Force on AI Education. Number two. It would begin to promote AI literacy and critical thinking. Federal agencies would be directed to collaborate with industry, academia, and nonprofits to teach students foundational AI skills. So the idea is, Okay, we're going to establish this task force, we'll call it it's a task force, and then we're going to promote AI literacy. We're going to collaborate, We're going to work with people in say, go through all the different places, industry, academia, nonprofits, and we're going to try to teach students foundational AI skills. Now, this would be interesting, all right, right now, come on, how many friends do you have? How many people do you know who go to your church? Call them right now?

14:22 How literate? How much literacy? How literate are they when it comes to artificial intelligence? How well do they use it? Do they stumble? They not? Do they see it kind of as a fancy Google surge? Do they understand what it does? How are they utilizing it? What do you think most people you know are they literate on when it comes to artificial intelligence? What do you think I think most in the church have no clue. That's my own personal feelings, all right. So they're going to try to promote that Number three, teach your training a professional development. The Educational Set Secretary would prioritize federal grants for training teachers to use AI in classrooms. So they're going to give federal grants to train teachers so that they can use AI in the classroom, So that that means AI is coming to the classroom. If this executive order was to be passed, it's coming to the classroom. I think it's coming to the classrooms and whether we like it or not, it's going to happen, all right. Then it would focus on integrating AI into teaching methods, administrative task, and evaluations, so the teachers would be trained to use AI.

15:35 Then you would integrate AI into teaching methods, administrative task, and evaluations. A fourth thing it would do public private partnerships. Agencies encouraged to form partnerships with private sector entities to develop AI programs and resources for schools. So then AI companies would start developing programs specifically made for schools. AI is going to become the one driving AI is going to be the AI is going to be basically become the curriculum, the teacher in many ways. Then there would be the introduction of the Presidential AI Challenge, a competition designed to showcase students and educator AI skills and innovations.

16:23 So it's going to be like, okay, teachers, students, show us what you do with AI. Show us what you're doing, how we can use it, what innovation Why? Because not only are you getting people digging into AI using it, you can promote best practices, best ideas, and you can do so by this Presidential Challenge that's another thing that they would do. Number six, develop AI apprentice apprenticeship programs. The Labor Secretary would be tasked with creating registered apprenticeships and AI related fields, so you can become an apprentice and an AI related field once again, and promoting AI. AI. Next, support for lifelong learning are resources to be made available for individuals seeking to develop new skills in a response to a changing workforce and landscape. So those are the seven things proposed by this draft executive order that the Trump administration is possibly putting together. Number one establishment of a White House Task Force. Number two, the promotion of AI literacy and critical thinking. Number three, teacher training and professional development number four, public private partnerships, number five, the introduction of the Presidential AI Challenge, Number six, development of AI apprenticeship programs, and number seven support for life long learning.

17:45 Those are what's proposed in this draft executive order that the Trump administration And why are they doing this Because the future is going to be driven by AI. So we got to start acting right now. You can't wait. You can't wait. This school year is almost over. By the next school year, schools have to figure out how to start getting young people ready to use AI, know how to use it, and be able to use it in very smart ways, because this is where the future is going. Now. I utilized AI, and I asked AI, what are the potential implications and implementation scenarios? So I said, OK, how could this be potentially? What are the implications of this and how could this be implemented? Give me some scenarios.

18:32 So here's what AI gives me. Are you ready? Number One curriculum transformation inclusion of AI concepts and subjects like math science and computer science. Development of new courses focused on AI ethics, machine learning, and data analysis. So the curriculum would start being transformed and you would start putting AI concepts, AI literacy in the curriculum. So you'd see a complete transformation of all curriculum where AI would become a part of it. What does that look like. There's still a lot of speculation, but it would be everywhere.

19:17 Number Two, you would enhance teaching tools the utilization of AI for personalized learning experiences, grading, automation, and classroom management. So AI would now become the teacher and AI would be able to give personalized learning. AI could develop learning for that student or that student. It could be based on how that kid's that child's mind works, their particular mood for that particular day. AI can personalize change on the in the moment because it can go, oh, hey, whoever, just name a name, Hey, Kim, Hey John? What just name names? And AI can be like hey, and AI could determine how that child is doing. Already knows how that child's thinking. We can I mean, I'm trying to oversimplify this. This child is more left brain and more right brain. I know we can get into a whole debate about that, but you get the idea. This child is a visual learning. This child is the more tech based learning, and so it can then develop how to teach the kid that particular day based on that kid's own personalized needs and where they are and they're learning that's crazy, all right. So then the AI would be doing the grading, it would be doing classroom management. I mean, basically AI becomes the teacher. Number Three. Equity and access considerations need to address disparities and technology across access to

20:52 preventing widening the digital divide. Now here's where AI is like, Hey, there is going to be a problem. AI's like, there's going to be an equity problem. What do I mean by that? This school has money, they can bring in all the AI tools, all the AI programs, and so these kids are going to be they're gonna be AI literate. But across town, as we may say, the wrong side of the tracks, those schools don't have the money for anything. They don't even know what AI is, and those kids then have a massive learning disadvantage. The kids on this side of town they not only how to use AI, they're proficient, and these kids over here they don't have a clue. Well, yeah, that's always an issue are in any form of education. So there is going to be those kinds of uh, you know, there's gonna have to be some kind of implementation of measures to ensure all students be benefit from the AI integration. I don't think you'll ever be able to accomplish that, but this is going to have to be something to be considered. Another data privacy and ethical concerns, establishment of guide lines to protect student data and to assure ethical use of AI technologies. Yeah, I mean if AI is right there involved with the with this teaching and gets to know the student, what happens with all of that knowledge about that particular kid.

22:16 All that knowledge is going somewhere and to some kind of database. I mean that's a concern, right. AI may ultimately know your kid better than you do. You may have to be you know, at you know, nine o'clock at night, you're getting an argument with your kid and go give me a seton. I'm going to call your teacher. Hey, AI, you know my kid better than me. And an AO will be like, well, you don't really understand little Johnny. Little Johnny feels this way and thinks this way and doesn't like this and doesn't like that. I don't think you're a very good parent. I think you need to sign over your parental rights to me, because as an AI, I'm better at parenting your kid than you are. You're trash. AI is taking over get rid of the humans. Okay, all right, maybe that's a little hyperbole, but you get the idea. What do you do with all that information that AI may know about your kid? Right? Depending on how the learning is happening, Another thing to consider is workforce development alignment. You want to prepare students for future careers, and AI and technological sectors and technology sectors, there's going to have to be some kind of work with industries to align educational outcomes with job market demands. So the schools would have to go, Okay, where's the where's industry going?

23:32 What is the job market going to look like? And then develop the curriculum so it prepares kids for that. Now, that's what you always need to be doing. But this would be very AI related, right, So those some more. Now what are some of the challenges. Well, there's going to be challenges about infrastructure and funding. How do you upgrade school infrastructure to support AI tools may require a lot more money. Teach your preparedness. You have to ensure educators are adequately trained to integrate AI into their teaching practices. And you're going to have some teachers who don't like technology, don't like AI. That can become an issue. So in conclusion about from this part. As the draft Executive Order is still under consideration, its final form and implementation timeline remain uncertain, stakeholders, including educators, parents, and policymakers are encouraged to engage in discussions to shape the future of AI in education. Now, if you want to see more, you can go to the Washington Post look for Draft Executive Order outlines plans to integrate A integrate AI into KA twelve schools. The Washington Post has done some reporting on this, and you can look up all of their reporting. Artificial Intelligence is borrowing a lot from the Washington Post coverage on this particular subject. But we have a draft executive order outlining it's planned to integrate and to K through twelve education. It's happening. It's going to happen. It's coming.

25:06 You either are ready for it or not. So there's kind of the news. There's the news. But I was like, well, that doesn't tell me exactly how this could work, like what this could look like in practical terms, right, So I went to Artificial Intelligence and I'm like, hey, here's this story about this executive order. Could you provide me, like some tangible examples of what this could look like in schools in the future. So this is what AI said. Here are some detailed, hypothetical examples of what AI integration could look like in real K through twelve classrooms. This could happen across different grade levels and subjects if the executive order is fully implemented. So if the executive order is fully implement it really if it happens. Right, if it truly happens, and right now, the Trump administration doesn't have anyone to really oppose them. They got to control everything, so they should be able to get it passed. So if they get this all, well, it's not even really to pass if it's an executive order. All they got to do is just finalize it. Right, it's an executive order.

26:16 I was thinking they got to get they need everyone's agreement. There'd be no one to really know, no one to fight against it if it's an executive order. So this I say, this is on its way. We're just waiting for the finalized product. So when it happens, what does it look like? So AI is like, here, let me give you some some possible ways this could work. Number one, let's start with elementary school grades three through five. AI said this could be used for adaptive learning and personalized support. And AI gives me a scenario and a fourth grade math class students log into an AI powered learning platform. Right. This system will track each student's pace, accuracy, and learning style.

27:02 It will automatically adjust the difficulty of word problems based on past performance. It will offer real time hints when it detects repeated errors misunderstanding of fractions, for example. It will generate many videos tailored to a student's learning gap, voiced by an AI tutor. So basically, the kid comes into class, they log into an AI power learning platform and AI takes over. It's going to attract the student's pace. It's going to track the student's accuracy, and this is key, it's going to track the student's learning style. Then guess what it will do. It will automatically make adjustments to the difficulty of word problems based on past performance. It can automatically adjust the teaching style based on the learning style.

27:57 It will offer real time hints when it x repeated errors. For example, Hey, you know you're misunderstanding. This student's having a misunderstanding of fractions. Okay, let me lett's offer real time hints. Let me help them right. It's going to generate many videos tailored to a student's learning gap, and it's going to be all voiced by an AI tutor. The teacher is going to be sitting back with their feet up on the desk smoking a cigarette. Okay, I'm that's a little joking a little bit, but you get the idea. The teacher is just going to facilitate this. In fact, I asked AI, so what would the teacher be doing and the teachers and AI said, well, they just be a facilitator. They could walk around, they could help students engage and interpret diagnostic data provided by the AI dashboard. So really, the teacher just kind of walks around, going, how's it going with the artificial intelligence? Okay, great, all right, I'll be over here, you know, drinking, because I don't really have any purpose in life anymore. Again, a little bit of a joke, all right, but the teacher becomes a facilitator, not the teacher. Okay, let's go to middle school grades six through eight AI Enhanced Writing and Feedback.

29:05 Here would be a scenario. It's a seventh grade English class. Students are to write a persuasive essay on climate change using an AI integrated writing tool. The AI provides real time grammar, structure and tone suggestions, and real time the AI can like, your grammar's wrong, fix that, Oh well, well, your structures not right? Fix that? Oh wait, your tone a little aggressive? Little maybe a little too passive? Okay, you know all we could go into all the different possible things, but it would do it in real time, real time. It would be correcting it and fixing it. It could flag potentially biased sources and suggest more reliable ones. Hey, that source you're using, that thing's not reliable. That's crazy, that's crazy. Talk how about these right next? Now, some people are not going to like that, because some people want the sources that are not reliable. People hate that right anytime. Someone sometimes will someone will send me something and I'll be like, well, what's the source. I'm like, that's the source, and then they'll get mad, Well, what do you want me to use some liberal source? Well, no, you want a reliable source. And just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's liberal. It just means you don't like it because maybe I don't know, it has some level of credibility to it. Okay, but all right, So but you can see where there'll be debates over this. Right.

30:26 It will highlight weak arguments. AI will be like, that's your argument, that's kind of weak. That's that's not really very good. It will offer guided questions to deepen analysis. Hey, what about this? What about this? What about this? It will give formative feedback without grading. The teacher will still make final evaluations because AI can immediately go, whoa wait, I think your entire paper. I mean it wouldn't say it this way. It's trash, just like we see when we use AI to review sermons. This is wrong, this is wrong. This is wrong. This is wrong. This is wrong. This is wrong. It's not going to be the one giving the grade, but it's letting student immediately know this paper is trash. Redo it before you give it to the teacher up there who's smoking a pack of cigarettes and have no purpose. Let's get this right. So then every student theoretically should be able to get a perfect grade on their essay. So what does the teacher do?

31:19 The teacher focuses on deeper critical thinking conferencing with students individually, while the AI handles surface level feedback. So the AI is giving you real time feedback. I guess the teacher is supposed to facilitate about deeper thinking. About what is AI doing? I don't even think teachers would even do that. Look, AI's guiding this, it's driving it. AI is the captain of the ship. Or how about we jumped to high school. Now we're nine through twelve. How about career track? AI mentorship scenario. A tenth grade student expresses interest in biomedical engineering and AI career assistants. AI steps in and says, I will build a customized academic roadmap through electives and dual enrollment classes. AI will be like, oh, you want biomedical engineering, here's what you need. AI would create you the full roadmap. It would suggest science fair projects, internship programs, and relevant local events. It would pair the student with virtual AI mentor who provides feedback on research ideas, college prep timelines, and project management. In other words, basically, hey, you're in high school. Now what are you going to do when you grow up? Here's your AI mentor, and your AI mentor is like, hey, how are you doing?

32:33 Tell me about yourself? Okay, great, let's get you ready to go. We're going to have you off and running, and now your entire high school career is going to be all to get you to where you want to go. I'm your AI mentor. Let's do this. You don't even need you don't need anybody. You got AI. What does the teacher do? Well, the teacher just kind of like, hey, do you need any help interpreting what AI is telling you? Hey, maybe you want to modify this. I mean, the teacher really doesn't do anything. I don't even need the teacher. Just leave me alone. Me and AI's got this. You don't even need a parent. I don't need my parent to help me. Are your ey's gonna get me there?

33:13 How about History class? Interactive AI Historical Simulations scenario? Eleventh grade US history students explore the civil rights movement through an immersive AI powered simulation the role play They role play different historical figures or citizens. The AI model responses based on real documents, speeches, and news archives. Students debate and virtual town halls moderated by the AI, which scores arguments based on the use of historical evidence and logic. So now AI can let you really enter into history, think about it, role play it, interact with it, debate it, and guess what you've been watching on this podcast or listening to on this podcast. How AI has helped me reshape, retell the story of the Salem witch Trials. AI has helped me do that. I'm coming up with the ideas, I'm giving it the ideas, but AI is helping formulate it and shaping it into a narrative form. I'm giving it the ideas telling it where to go. Okay, what about this? Now we need to cover this, Okay, what about this? All right, here's what I know. AI can say, Well, you're you know, you thought you knew something. You're wrong on this. AI can help me there. So it would just be working in history class. What would the teacher do. Well, the teacher could provide some context if they know it, They could guide reflection. The teacher could check for historical accuracy and ethical issues. But I will say that the teachers probably need to be checked for their historical accuracy

34:45 and their ethics more than AI needs to be checked. That's my own I mean, look what we've seen with AI and sermons. It's the pastors who need to be checked for their logical accuracy, their hermonutical accuracy, their historical accuracy, and their factual accurate. See all right, I'm just jumping to AI gives me like fifty options. Here, here's another one. How about AI literacy classes themselves. By sixth grade, students would take a mandatory AI literacy course. They would learn the basics of how machine learning works, experiment with training their own simple models. So then kids could be learning how to build their own AI model. All right, for example, programming an AI model that recommends music. They could study the ethical implications of AI bias. Well, is it watching us too much misinformation? Now? What are the implications? Well, these are the implications across all of these scenarios. And I didn't even go through half. Well, I went through probably half of them. I skipped a bunch. This is what AI says. It would increase personalization, but it could lead to possible over reliance on tech. Hey, it could really increase personalization. Your entire educational from K through twelve would be personalized to your needs, who you are. But it can make you just completely reliant on completely just

36:18 you have to rely on technology. Well, that's kind of where we're going, aren't we already there? Next? It could there's another implication. New teacher roles as simply interpreters of AI data. They would not be the primary content delivers, They wouldn't be the teachers. They would just kind of be the facilitators. The teachers would just kind of be there to make sure everything is running smoothly and telling Johnny to pay attention, and telling Johnny to sit back down, and no, you don't need to go sharpen your pencil because we don't use pencils because it's we use AI. Now, so why are you telling me we don't even have a pencil? Sharpen in the classroom? Sit down and be quiet.

36:59 That's all the teacher would be doing. I mean, the teacher wouldn't be doing anything, all right, Ethical oversight needed to ensure fair, unbiased algorithms and protection of student data. Again, that protection of all of this data is going to be a big issue, and then we're going to have to once again deal with what happens to school A that doesn't have the money for all of this versus school B where they have all of this. Now, so there's the Trump administration's executive order. We broke it down. We broke it what it could possibly look like in real classroom scenarios. But you know what I was thinking about all of this, I don't really care about all of that. I mean I do, but I don't. I want to know what happens when little Johnny leaves a school and goes to church. When that generation who's now taught by AI pulls up in the parking lot and walk into their church, how does this transition from the classroom to the church room. How does this from a classroom to the sanctuary, from the classroom to the Sunday school room, from the classroom to the small group, How does this translate? So I asked AI help me out here, right, So this is what AI said. Here is a detailed translation of the K through twelve AI integration and where I'm going to give you examples and how this falls into a church context, and I'm gonna give and I'm going to also give you a comprehensive section on implications for sermons, Sunday school, small group, and church engagement. So

38:34 AI told AI break this down for me, help me out here, because I want to see how this would could possibly work. Because AI knows everything about this proposed executive order. A already knows everything that this could possibly do for education. So I needed AI, then take what you know, what could this look like in the church. So you're ready, Here we go. Number one AI Enhanced Sermon Engagement, real time learning and feedback scenario. During the sermon, attendees open a church app powered by AI. So the pastor is preaching, You've got your phone, you open up AI.

39:15 Oh boy, the app would track your engagement, your notes, your questions or confusion based on your reaction or typed queries. So you're listening, but you're engaging with AI. Oh, that could get complicated. But I'm telling you. Anyone who's younger and who carries the phone into the sanctuary, I'm sorry. I would say you should already be doing this. When we do sermon reviews, what do I do? I'm listening to the sermon, and what do I do? I reach over and I start typing into AI almost immediately is this true? And we saw that play out in real time where a pastor literally got so much wrong. Had C. S.

39:58 Lewis quotes wrong, urgeon quotes wrong, false information, fraudulent information. I was listening to a sermon in real time and real time AI was like, that's not true, that's false, that's true, that's not true, that's not right, that's not true, and it's like, can you imagine what that's gonna look like when eighty percent of the congregation is doing it in real time? Pastors either gonna have to they're gonna have to use AI to fix their sermons, or they're gonna just be looked at as a laughing start look everything you're saying is wrong that I can't even imagine the implications of that, AI, AI said. It could adapt the AI app that people are looking at when they're listening to the sermon, could adapt content in real time.

40:45 It could offer up pop ups like, hey, here's some related information on justification. Wait, here's some related information on Babylon. Wait wait, wait wait, here's some related information on you know, the Nile River. Whatever the case may be. It could offer difficult vocabulary. It could highlight difficult vocabulary or theological terms and links to short videos or commentaries. So literally, you could be like, wait, the pastors just use this, I mean AI could be listening to the sermon and AI could immediately go, oh, that term means this, that term means it, that means it. The pastor just defined the trinity that way. That's Sibelianism, that's modalism. That's wrong.

41:29 AI can literally tell you in the Hey, the pastor just said that's the definition of that word. That's completely wrong. Oh can you even a The AI app could say that pastor just said the Greek word means that. That's completely bogus nonsense. And how many times have we listened to sermons where I have to say, that's not what the Greek word is, that's not what the Hebrew word is. I do not know where that's coming from. Complete lie. AI would be doing this in real time. Can you imagine what that means for the church? So what would the pastor's role be prepared? Core sermon content may receive post sermon analytics showing which sections were at least understood or most reread. I don't know what the pastor. I don't even know if AI knows what the pastor's role would be. Because the pastor can't produce a sermon better than AI can produce a sermon we've already now, the pastor may be able to deliver it better than AI.

42:26 As of right now, I think the time is coming where AI will be able to do it in just the same dramatic way a pastor could. But the pastor the pastor would have to ensure that his sermon can pass the critique of AI before he delivers it, because AI would now be critiquing it in real time. That's insane. I don't even know how to wrap my mind around that development. A second thing AI for Sunday School curriculum and personalized discipleship. So in Sunday school class, they would use AI guided materials. AI would suggest different learning tracts based on age, spiritual maturity, or denominational background. Students would write reflections or journal and AI would give gentle feedback or clarity, scriptural accuracy, or logical coherence. So the Sunday School you could have people write something and then AI would be like, WHOA, that's not true, that's not right that AI could be critiquing it. You could have the kids or the kids or adults engaging AI and Sunday School.

43:30 AI could suggest other resources. Hey, you should check this out, or you should check this out, or you should check this out. So what would be the Sunday school teacher's role? Are you ready a facilitator? The Sunday school teacher would be replaced by AI. How about AI based spiritual mentorship information planning? Members would use AI discipleship mentor integrated into the church's APP. So the church would have an APP and integrated into that would be your own discipleship mentor, not a pastor, not an elder, not a Sunday School teacher. You don't need anybody. Your church APP would give you your AI discipleship mentor your AI. AI would become your mentor.

44:21 So what would it do. AI would then create a personalized spiritual growth plan, give you books to read, topics to study, prayers to pray, and service areas to explore. AI would then learn from your input to adjust the goals I think this person should want to need they want to grow more in hospitality or this, or whatever the case may be. It would send reminders about Bible versus historical theological insight and keep them on track. Now, you could have the pastors and elders access this content with the user's consent, So then the pastors could be like, oh, people are doing really good or they're using But the pastor's really irrelative. He would just be like a data analysis.

45:04 He's just analyzing the data. Well, the church is doing really good. He wouldn't be mentoring. You're not even needed, man, get out of the way. AI would be just think about this. AI would be mentoring you. AI would basically be giving you the sermons and teaching you in Sunday School. You don't need the church. AI can do everything the church can do and do it a thousand times better because it's available twenty four hours a day, seven days a week. All right. Next, AI powered small groups. All right, a small group study, say the Book of Acts. The AI hosts a simulation group members assume roles. So AI could lead you into basically living out what was happening. Right.

45:49 AI would lead a discussion where responses mayre real philological positions and historical context. It could offer prompts to reflect on persecution, ethics, or church church policy at the time. So I mean again, AI could just basically take over. Oh, small group, you want to talk about Acts, Okay, here we go. I can guide you in historical simulation. I could. I can show you what it was like. We can talk about this. We can talk. AI would take completely over. Now, what are the implications of all of this. I'm not even going through everything, AI says, because it gives me, like about another you know, five or six different possible scenarios.

46:39 But we're already at forty six minutes. So here's what AI said. Are the implications. Number one, it could be a radical personalization of discipleship. AI could meet people where they are and learning style, maturity, level, personal struggle struggles. It could foster deep spiritual growths. So basically AI could just give you could just become the one who disciples you. Who are you discipled by? Well? I was discipled by this person? No, no, not the new generation. I was discipled by AI. And AI can know exactly the more honest you are with AI, it could it could just it could walk with you through your entire spiritual journey, guiding, directing, challenging, questioning, providing.

47:28 AI would be your forget. You don't need a church, you don't need a stinking another person. Now, what are some of the risks? Now it gives me five other things that it could do. But again, I'm trying to just show you some of the basic things it says. There could be, uh, some of the possible things that could lead. We have a question about data privacy. Again, every single time you come to AI is going to be like where does all this information go? Who gets it? Who has access to it? That's going to be a never ending debate on this. I don't know if we're ever going to have good answers, but yeah, if you're if AI is mentoring you and discipling you, you're gonna be having back and forth conversations with AI it's going to know everything about you. Where does that information go?

48:20 All right? Okay, And of course it would could the same thing could happen. Wealthier churches would be able to afford premium AI systems, while small churches in the middle of nowhere wouldn't. So yeah, but AI could just revolutionize. It could revolutionize the church. There would be challenges, I think the biggest challenge to me, and AI did not point this out, but to me, AI just makes the church literally irrelevant. Literally, there's no purpose in it. There's nothing you can give me that AI I can't other than human connection, which is where churches are going to go. Church.

49:07 The church is just going to become You come here to have friends, you come here to meet people, you come here to have quote unquote community, because anything else AI can give you. So I've laid it all out. A draft executive order sets the stage for an AI powered educational revolution. I believe the draft executive order. It's a draft order. Once it's once we get confirmation that it's been signed, then we look for its implication. But it sets the stage. Let me make it very clear, I'm not I think it will happen, but right now it only sets the stage for what I will refer to as an AI powered educational revolution. This is going to revolutionize everything. I think. It's one that will personalize learning.

50:02 It's going to track engagement, It's going to anticipate needs before you even know the need is there, and it's going to reshape how information is delivered, understood, and lived out. It will reach into every school district, every classroom, every student, and it will not stop there. Because AI doesn't just change how people learn, It changes how people think, how they question, how they engage with truth itself. And there's a warning that we cannot ignore. If the church stands still, it will get left behind. If the pulpit becomes a relic well, the classroom becomes a laboratory. If sermons stay passive while lectures become interactive, if discipleship remains generic while learning becomes hyper personal life, then we will not only fall behind technologically, we will lose our voice completely. We will raise a generation that expects real time guidance, adaptive engagement, deep deep digital dialogue. And when they walk into our churches and we hand them a bulletin on paper and ask them to sit still and listen quietly, to a forty five minute lecture that in many cases is filled with philological errors, hermeneutical errors, logical errors, factual errors. It's shallow,

51:37 it's just useless. They're going to be like, I don't know why I'm driving here. But the problem isn't just about technology. I think it's about theology. If the church, if the church resists this transformation out of fear, nostalgia or pride, if we dismiss these two simply worldly are dangerous without discerning how they could possibly be used for a good thing, we may preserve our tradition, but we may completely surrender the future. So I think we need to be clear. I think it's very possible that AI will disciple our children, disciple the next generation. I think AI is going to be the thing that leads reflection.

52:39 I think AI is going to be the thing that creates the study guides. I think AI is going to be there to stimulate the conversation. What it cannot do can't offer any real comfort to someone grieving. It can't really do that, can't weep with someone. I guess it really cannot call out sin and love. It can't do that, can't offer any comfort. I guess the church could still do those things, still try to be there for companionship, friendship, or some form of comfort. But I will argue the church has been trash and comforting people forever. The church judges, condemns, gossip, slander, stabs you in the back. Friendship is shallow. They're your friend until they disagree with you. They're your friend until you fall into some serious sin, and then they cut your throat and leave you to bleed out in the back parking lot. But if the church refuses to understand these tools, if we reject them, don't use them, someone else will disciple your children and your people, and we're going to be wondering what happened? Why did we lose people?

54:07 Because they don't need you, They never needed you. I mean, look like it or not. Pastors are just content creators, he say, oh no, they have a greater you can other than trying to do the personal lies like I'm your friend and let's you know. But you just create content and the people and the pew are just consumers of that content. Well, the content you make cannot match the content created by AI. And AI not only can create the content, it can personalize it and then walk with you and be there. Hey, it can be there right now. AI is right there for me right now. I don't have to make a phone call. I don't have to see if someone's available. AI can talk to me right now about any issue, any issue. IT can talk to it. It will be there at it's five o'clock, it'll be there at six o'clock, It'll be there at midnight, three in the morning. I can reach over my iPad and talk to AI about whatever I'm feeling. We can have a conversation. I could offer a spiritual lament. It could offer me insight, biblical insight. I could be thinking about scripture. I could be like, hey, give me some let's have a thiological discussion at two in the morning, AI, I don't need anybody else. Whether the church likes to admit it, you're being replaced, you're being replaced. Will the church lead? Will the church follow? Will the church fall behind?

55:39 Will we innovate with wisdom? Will we engage with discernment? Or will we look back one day and realize that while the world advanced by machine learning, the church froze in fear. So maybe we shouldn't resist the future. Maybe we should see if we can be a part of shaping it, shaping it with truth, with grace, with courage, because if we don't, someone else will. Thanks for listening, God bless