March 28, 2025

Theology Central is Number 4

Theology Central is Number 4

Theology Central made it to number 4 on the Feedspot top Theology podcast list. See the list here

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Theology Central made it to number 4 on the Feedspot top Theology podcast list. See the list here

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is

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the Theology Central podcast, making Theology Central, Ladies and gentlemen.

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A lot of the time, I turn on this microphone

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and I share with you my frustration, my discouragement, my depression,

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my irritation. A lot of times I turn on the

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microphone and I express a lot of negative emotions. I

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think I do that, probably more than I want to.

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But I also try to be very transparent. I try

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my best to be like, hey, I'm just a center

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with a microphone. I'm still trying to figure all of

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this out, and you get to hear me try to

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figure things out, and I express all of the negative

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emotions that can come with trying to figure things out.

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All right, So I try my best to be transparent.

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So I thought maybe today I would turn on the

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microphone and I would share maybe some good news, maybe

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something that's encouraging, maybe something that should maybe it should

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make me happy. But well, the fact that I'm so

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jaded and skeptical. Am I going to just then explain

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this away? Possibly? But we're going to talk about all

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of that. But first, let me say good afternoon everyone.

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It is Friday, March the twenty eighth, twenty twenty five.

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It is currently two twelve pm Central Time, and I'm

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coming to you live from the Theology Central studio located

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right here in Abilene, Texas. Now, I have spent a

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large portion of my adult life in front of microphones, right,

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either wearing a lapel microphone or sitting in a chair

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in front of a microphone, talking about anything and everything

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and doing broadcasting. I had a program on Christian Radio,

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then I got kicked off Christian Radio. I've done kind

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of a well podcasting before it was really called podcasting,

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dealing with news. I now do this podcast about, you know,

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called Theology Central, talking about theology. I've been broadcasting for

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a very very long time, and you go through different

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seasons I think and broadcasting, right, and there's lots of

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reasons why you go through these different seasons. I think

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you have that initial excitement, right, Oh, I'm going to broadcast.

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I'm going to create a podcast. Okay, this is going

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to be fun and it's interesting, and you can't wait

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to just get something done and then you get it

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uploaded and then you get the excitement. Oh look, it

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showed up on Spotify. It's on Apple podcasts and you

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get to see what it looks like when you open

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the app, and it's just like there's all the excitement

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and fun and you don't even really necessarily have a plan.

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You're just enjoying broadcasting and you're being a part of

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this entire podcasting broadcasting world, and your content is here,

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your content is there. It's just kind of fun and exciting.

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And then you may enter into a stage where now

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you're kind of very you're kind of committed. You're gonna

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change the world. You're gonna do this, You're gonna accomplish this,

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You're going to do this, You're going to do this.

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Maybe you're looking at it as oh, Okay, I'm a

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pastor of this church, or I serve this church in

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this capacity. I'm gonna use this broadcast to as an

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extension of the ministry of the church, and people will

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really appreciate what I'm doing because I'm trying to expand

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the ministry. Yeah, we may be a little church in

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the middle of nowhere, but now I'm broadcasting around the

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world and people will see that, Oh, that's a great

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thing that the church's ministry is reaching out. And you

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can be like, Okay, work hard, work hard. This is

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for the church. This is for the church. This is

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for the church. Now, sometimes you don't know if your

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motives are pure or not, because it may be is

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it really about the church or is it really about me?

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But there's you feel like mission, you feel like there's

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a mission. You feel like there's a purpose, and so

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you work and you work, and you work and you work,

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and you work and you work. And then sometimes you

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may kind of transition out of that to more of

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a well, I still think it's necessary, but am I

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really You start maybe you start kind of going through

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a season of doubt or question am I really accomplishing anything?

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Is it really worth my time? How much time do

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I put into this? How much effort? And then you

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start kind of questioning yourself because what people don't know

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when you send in an empty room talking into a

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microphone for an hour, two hours, three hours, four hours,

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no matter depending, and you know how many how you're

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you know, measuring the hours hours per day, hours per week,

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hours per month, how many hours you spent in a year.

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I mean when you look at how many episodes, let's

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say I do in a year, that's a lot of

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my life sitting in front of a microphone, and so

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sometimes you start asking. Maybe some people will say as

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a fleshy question, but you're kind of like, what am

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I really accomplishing? I mean, that's a lot of hours,

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because I know this is hard for people to understand.

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You're just sitting in a room talking into a microphone

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and then you upload, and so you have to look

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for some kind of like am I really doing something?

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So sometimes you look you look for emails. Am I

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going to get an encouraging email? Am I going to

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get something that's supportive? I'm gonna get someone like, hey,

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thank you so very much. Am I going to get

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a report on how you help someone, encourage someone, challenge someone,

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change someone's thinking. Okay, sometimes you get those, but those

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are far fewer than than people would probably imagine. The

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positive ones are much fewer in number than the negative ones.

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The negative ones are you said this incorrectly, you did

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this incorrectly. You should try this, you should change this,

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you should do this. Stop doing this, You're an idiot.

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You are more on whatever the case may be. So

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sometimes that's hard to get any kind of clear measurement

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because either your email box is empty or it's filled

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with more negative and then ever once in a while

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you get that very encouraging one. So but it's hard

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to make because again you can do You could do

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forty broadcasts and not hear from anybody, so you never

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really know, like how do I measure it? And then

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you're like, well, am I looking for some kind of praise?

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Is it because I'm is it my own need for

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approval or for prayer? Well okay, that's a wrong attitude.

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So then you kind of feel bad that you're thinking

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that way. But then you keep looking at your email going, man,

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I don't see anything. Well, okay, maybe people don't like that.

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Maybe I'm wasting my time. So it's hard to figure out.

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So then you start looking at numbers because as a

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podcast you have all kinds of analytics, right, so you

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get like how many downloads, how many streams? How many

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how many downloads per episode? Okay, well what does that look?

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Right?

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Okay? That okay? Ah, man, that's not looking really good.

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Oh wait, we've had an increase. Oh that's really good.

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But why do we have the increase? Wait, now we

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have a decrease. Why do we have a decrease? And

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then you look on all of the different platforms YouTube,

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you know, sermon audio, and just you're looking at all

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your different analytics and you're just like, what do I

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do with all of this? I got this many numbers here,

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this many numbers here, this many numbers here. But wait,

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we don't show up on the Spotify podcasting chart. Okay,

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we show up on sometimes, we show up on Apple

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charts sometimes, but you know, it's hard sometimes to know

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what that even means. And then then other places we

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don't show up anywhere, and you're kind of like, well,

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all right, that's not very So you look to emails,

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you look to analytics. Sometimes you look and I know

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this is going to sound very materialistic. You look when

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you get that PayPal notification. Someone just gave you ten dollars,

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someone just sent in twenty dollars, someone just sit in

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fifty dollars, someone just sit in one hundred dollars, And

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that really obviously has a very big impact because that's

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someone who thinks that what you're doing is actually worth

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they're hard earned money, and so that can go like whoa, Okay,

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now that usually what it does to me is it

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almost it almost it has such an impact on me

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because I'm like, oh, my goodness, they just gave that

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much money. All right, I better do fifty broadcasts, I

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better do one hundred, I better do more because they

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got to get their money's worth. And so a lot

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of times i'm it's still it's very encouraging, but it

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almost makes me them feel like I need to do more.

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So no matter what you get, it has this kind

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of like, if you have good numbers, well you're trying

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to figure out why. If you have bad numbers, you're

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trying to figure out why. If you get a good email,

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then you kind of ask yourself, well, why don't you

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get more good emails?

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Right?

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If you get negative emails, you start thinking, well, maybe

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I do everything wrong. It plays on your mind and

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it can be just it can just be like oh

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what do I do? And not only that, you just

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have the never ending stress of produce more content, produce

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more content, produce more content, produce more content, sit down,

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record more, do more? Do more? How many do you

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need to do? And then sometimes you feel like you're

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always chasing, like, well, that episode wasn't good. Maybe I'll

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do another one and then it'll be better. It'll be better. Oh, well,

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that weird. Maybe if I do another one, maybe if

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I and you're always thinking, if you do one more,

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you're going to finally feel like this was the perfect one.

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Well does that perfect one make up for the three

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bad ones? And there's just so much happens behind the

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microphone that people just don't know. They don't All you

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see is oh, I got a notification, new content, Oh

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new content, oh new content? Or well I wonder why

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he hasn't produced anything today, like I don't know what,

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or you may not even think at all, you may

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not even care. But from this side, there's a lot

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going on, and sometimes it can lead to just questioning, doubting, frustration,

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you know, what am I doing? Why am I even

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doing this? Does anyone even care? And you start having

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a pity party, You feel sorry for yourself, You get discouraged,

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you get depressed. It can all be a lot when

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it comes to broadcasting. And then you can start questioning.

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You know a lot of you can just start questioning everything.

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So a lot of times I turn on the microphone,

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try to be very honest with you, try to be

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very transparent. But I can turn on the microphone today

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to say, well, I at least got one of those

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positive emails because at one forty nine pm Central time

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one forty nine pm Central time, I received an email

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with this as the subject line, Theology Central featured in

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feedspot Top forty Theology podcast. And I'm like, wait, what, okay?

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That that sounds good. Now. At first I'm gonna so

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at first I'm like what. Then immediately I'm like, oh, wait,

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I bet you this is what is this? Someone messing

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with me, right, because I'm typically kind of jaded at

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this point. But again, here's the subject line, Theology Central.

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Theology Central featured in feedspot Top forty Theology podcast and

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so it says Hi. Then it gives me it's from

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the founder of feed Spot. I'm not going to try

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to pronounce his name because I would probably do it horribly,

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but it's from the founder of feed Spot, and it

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says this, I would like to personally congratulate you as

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your podcast, Theology Central, has been selected by our panelist

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as one of the top forty theology podcasts on the web.

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Then it gives me a link, and I will include

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the link so that you can see the entire list

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of the top forty podcast Top top forty Theology podcast.

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I'll put a link here under the description and the

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show notes, as some people would say, and you can

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look at all the top forty. We'll look at them

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here in a minute. It goes on to say, this

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is the most comprehensive list of top forty theology podcasts

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on the Internet, and I'm honored to have you as

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a part of this. You can also add your website

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link and it gives me all the things I can do.

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We've created a badge for you to share with your audience.

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Back Porch Theology, Right, I have no idea who that is, okay,

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but she's number one, So Lisa Harper is number one, okay.

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Number two is Reformed Form. Reform Form supports the church

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and presenting every person mature in Christ, providing reform philological

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resources to pastors, scholars, and it has more, all right.

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And then a People's theology exploring theologies that inspire and

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liberate for formerly known as religionless church. Okay, that's the

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name of them. That's number three. And then number four,

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number four Theology Central Theology Central. Now, our rating is

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not great. We have a three point nine rating. The

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other ones above me have a four point seven and

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a four point seven out of five, so they have

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a four point seven out of five. We have a

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three point nine. Our rating is not good. It never

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is other people. The number five is Deep Talks. They

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have a four point nine rating. Reclaiming My Theology has

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a four point nine. Theology Mom has a four point nine.

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Her Theology's podcast number eight has a five out of five,

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so I mean almost everyone has better ratings than we do.

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So it's pretty awesome that I've made it to number four,

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even though more people dislike me than other podcasts that

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are on the list. On the other list, everyone seems

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to love them. I don't tend to be loved. And

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that's okay. I know I'm polarizing, I'm divisive. I know

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I am controversial, not because that's what I set out

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to do. It's just because I don't like I'm not

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I don't play along very well with people's still logical systems.

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I don't care to adhere to someone's still logical system.

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I don't care be a part of someone's still logical team.

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And I'm gonna chald and I tend to challenge what

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a lot of mainstream Christianity says. I kind of challenge it.

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to any of these other podcasts, I guarantee you they

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probably have a host and a co host. They probably

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do interviews. So I don't follow this conversational kind of

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format where there's you know, two people or three people.

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Mine is not overly produced. Mine is recorded live. It's

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not recorded and then edit it. It's recorded live. What

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you hear is what you get. There's no stopping, editing,

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removing this, fixing this. It just whatever happens happens. So

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I tend to tick everyone off because I don't play

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nicely with someone's philological teams. I mine is not overly produced.

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It's just recorded live, no second takes. And I don't

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do the you know, hey, I'm so and so, and

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here's my co host so and so, and you kind

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of do the little back and forth. I don't. I

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don't follow any of the scripts. I don't, so it's

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pretty amazing that we made it to number four. I

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don't know how we made it to number four. I

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don't know. Now there's things I can do with feed Spot,

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like I could. I can sign up for their I

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don't want that. If I can get to this, okay,

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I don't want to export that. I don't know if

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I can get to it here. So, yeah, there's different

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things you can do. You can sign up for different things,

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you can sign in. I don't know if I can

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even sign in. Maybe I'll have to try to sign in.

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At some point, I will sign in and see if

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I can what I can. There's some things I can control,

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so like the description on here is a little out

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of date. Our artwork is up to date, and maybe

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I can update that's I think that's the newest art work.

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So but the the description is a little outdated because

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it was kind of promoting the church, and so it's

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not really I mean, even though it's still connected to

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the church, for the most part, it's you know, it's

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it's kind of become its own thing. So I probably

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need to see if I can update that. I don't

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even know if I have access to updated. You can subscribe.

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I can subscribe like nineteen dollars a month to be

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able to have be able to do more things. But

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I don't, you know, I don't have the money to

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do that. So but that's okay, that's that's neither here

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nor there. The point is we made it to number four.

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I don't know if that means it anything of significance.

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I never know, Like if you look on listen notes,

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we are in the top five percent of all podcasts

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in the world. What does that mean? I mean it

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sounds good, right, it sounds like yay. I don't know

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what that actually means. Right, we're number four on feed Spot.

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I don't know what that actually means when it comes

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to actual numbers, because the way you're supposed to how

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do you determine what you're accomplishing? Is it based on

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how many people? A lot of times, if you look

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on how to determine the success of a podcast, it

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comes down to the number of downloads and streams per episode.

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If you look at our numbers, we were not successful

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by almost any metric a listener engagement. That would be

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the number of emails, the ratings, how many people have

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rated the podcast and is it five stars, how many

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people give it thumbs up? How many people leave positive

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comments on YouTube or anywhere, how many people even leave

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comments on YouTube? And you look at some of those numbers,

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We're not successful. We're not Let's just be honest, We're

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not successful. And you know, in some ways that's a

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good thing. In some ways, I don't want to be

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I know, this is like the only thing I've ever

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wanted to do is be successful enough. I wish I

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could just be successful enough in order to just say, hey,

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good I can do this. This could pay my bills

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if I needed it to. This can support not only

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what it costs to be out there, but it gives

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me extra money to do things like book giveaways or

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do this, or to promote it here, or to do

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this like it would be It would be great if

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I could just bring in. I don't want to get

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too popular, and I never and and I'm not designed

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to get too popular because I'm going to offend people obviously.

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I'm going to offend all the charismatics obviously, and I

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typically end up reform offending everyone else. Reform people don't

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like me because I'm not reformed enough or or I'm

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too reformed or I'm not enough. And then for the

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non reform people, I'm too reformed, so I take off

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everyone there. I'm too dispensational, I'm not dispensational enough. I'm

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to this, I'm to that because everybody wants to put

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me in a box, and I'm like, I don't care

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about your box, and so then I end up offending

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everyone I'm not. I definitely hate the politicizing of the

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American Church. I go against Christian nationalism. That gets me

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in trouble. I don't bow the need to Donald Trump

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and kiss the ring of maga. I criticize, Oh, that

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gets me in trouble with the Trump supporters. And then oh,

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and then I'm not liberal enough. But I'm not conservative enough.

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I'm not this. I'm never going to be designed to

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be popular, and I know that. And again, in some ways,

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I love that. You just wish you could reach enough

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a certain level where you're like, Okay, this is good.

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You've got enough people supporting you so that you could

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pay the bill and have a little extra where you

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could do things that are fun and helpful, like giveaways

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or give people access to digital curriculums or the different

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things that we've done in the past. I do miss

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being able to do more and give people things. But

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but I you know, but again, I'm not going to

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create I mean, most of the podcasts have, uh they

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they sell merch you know, they have you know, they

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have their own you know, T shirts and their own hats.

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I'm not going to have Theology Central shirts and Theology

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Central hats. I'm not going to turn it into merchandise.

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To me, the way it should work is if people

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like it, they will support it, and and you know,

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and and in many cases it doesn't work, it doesn't

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really and so then you But at the same time,

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you don't want to have to In some ways, you

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don't want to be beholden to support, right because if

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the minute you have to rely on people's support, you

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kind of you're kind of owned, right, because you got

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to keep doing you got to keep making those people happy.

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And the one thing I know about me is I

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never make anyone happy. I never do. My personality is.

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Not good at making people happy.

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I make enemies before I make friends. Okay, I don't.

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I irritate people before I you know, I don't create fans,

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I create critics. It's just my personality. So I don't

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want to be beholden to that anyway. Right. That's one

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of the things about being a podcaster is I'm free

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from all of those you know, restrictions and constraints. I

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don't I'm not bound by that, right, I'm not being restrained.

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I'm not being I'm not you know, I'm not. I

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don't have that. I can turn on the microphone and

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say whatever I want. Whoever gets offended. I gets offended,

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and it does, and it ultimately doesn't matter, right, But

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if you start getting too popular, well, then you start

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worrying about your popularity.

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That's bad.

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You get a certain level of popularity that typically brings

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in money or opportunities, which now you're gonna have to

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you're going to be beholden to. None of that is good,

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None of that is good. All of that is negative,

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I think. So I'm just grateful that we made it

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to number four. That's pretty amazing. I don't think we

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could ever make it to number one. I don't know,

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I don't know. You know, if you look on some

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of these, you can see that the reason they're so

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popular is like this one. Lisa Harper's Backporch Theology three

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hundred and seven thousand followers on Facebook, Twitter over forty

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six thousand.

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All Right Reform Form.

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Over eleven thousand Facebook followers, Twitter over seventeen thousand, Instagram

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over four thousand. People's Theology over three thousand on Twitter,

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Deep Talks over three thousand on Twitter. Reclaiming My Theology

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over nine thousand on Twitter, over thirteen thousand on Instagram.

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Well There over one thousand on Instagram, only six hundred

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and forty one on Facebook. But you see many of

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these have a big social media presence, a big social

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media presence.

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So typically in the podcasting world you have to really

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you have to really maximize and utilize social media.

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But I don't want to be a part of all

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of that. I don't you get there and then people

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then and I know that's the way to play the game, right, See, build,

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you build a social media presence, and then what are

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you supposed to do? You released episodes that are going

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to be somewhat controversial, that's going to create backlash a

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little bit, right, create a little anger. Then everyone starts

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posting comment and then they post comments and they post comments,

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and then other people and then get you get you

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get you caught up in a firestorm, right, and so

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then algorithms starts picking up. Oh everyone's talking about this,

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and then your stuff starts getting picked up and found

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and suggested and recommended, and then the next thing, you know,

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you start growing in numbers. But I don't want to

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be in the firestorm. I don't want to be in

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the controversy. I don't want any of that. There's there's

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nothing valuable about that. It's just arguing and griping, and

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I try to be very careful even when people post

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negative comments on YouTube, like how much do I even

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engage it? Because I may spark I may be able

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to spark a little fight and maybe that just will

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bring more people to the comments section, which then the

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algorithm will pick up. Then people will it will recommend

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Theology Central, but it will have to do that on

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the back of controversy. Do I have to do that

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on the to be in the middle of some never

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ending fight with people?

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Nah?

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No, no, no, no, no no, no, it's not it's

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not work. I would rather I just want to find

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a group of people who approve with what who are

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they benefit to such a level from what I do

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that they're willing to support it. And a group of

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people who are willing to go to Apple podcast and

462
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give me a five star rating or on Spotify give

463
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us a five star rating. I'm just you know, just

464
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looking for people to do that. So that's where we

465
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are today. I thought it's some good news, but yeah.

466
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We made it to number four.

467
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We made it to number four, So I'm very grateful

468
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for that. I think that's a positive thing. Someone emailed

469
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me at two twenty one PM, he said, congrats. And

470
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number four two top ten and it says Theology Central.

471
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This is what he says.

472
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Theology Central makes me think about different sides of an

473
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issue or passage, even if I don't agree, which is

474
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what I like. Well, first of all, hey, now, who

475
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could disagree with anything I have to say right now?

476
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And it says you were selected by our panelists. I

477
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wonder who that is and what theological background the person has.

478
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It says number one is Lisa Harper. Someone already looked

479
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this up, obviously. Number one is Lisa Harper's Backporch Theology.

480
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You ought to review whatever that is. At least it

481
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says the Center's Dialogue on Teaching has a dignified name.

482
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The rest are mostly generic. That's that's true. The list

483
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goes on for one and six items. Wow, who would

484
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have ever have time to listen to all of that?

485
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Right?

486
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And then someone said, I started listening to the Paula

487
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White episode. Haven't gotten far, but oh my goodness, I

488
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may have a brain aneurysm. That's really good. Oh wow, Okay, okay,

489
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so they also connect to my Journey, my episode I

490
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:14.519
did on Journey, So okay, right, So they did some

491
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a lot of other things. But thank you to him

492
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for taking the time to email and say congratulations.

493
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But that is funny.

494
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Yes, the Paula White almost gave me an aneurism too.

495
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I don't even need an aneurism. I got enough neurological problems.

496
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Okay, but.

497
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Yeah, so there we go.

498
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That's what's going on. I do appreciate that. And again

499
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I don't know what it actually means.

500
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I don't know.

501
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I really don't know what it means. I mean, I

502
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can tell everyone, look, we made it to number four. Yay.

503
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Does it really mean anything? I have no idea, But

504
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I will see if I can log in and change

505
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this description and see what else I can do here

506
00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:55.880
to clean this up a little bit. See if I can.

507
00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:58.319
Add all I got to say? Does the website? Where

508
00:28:58.359 --> 00:29:06.799
does the website go? It goes to Theology Central Okay, okay, yeah,

509
00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:07.799
all right, so that's good.

510
00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:11.920
All right, So it goes to Theology Central, Theologycentral dot net,

511
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so that's good.

512
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It goes to Apple.

513
00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:18.759
Hang On goes to Apple, all right, and then it

514
00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:27.000
goes to Spotify. Hang On goes to Spotify. Hang On,

515
00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:28.519
Spotify is opening?

516
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All right, I'm gonna go to the top here.

517
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:35.799
All right, yeah, all right, so everything. Oh we're at

518
00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:41.319
four point five stars on Spotify. Wow, fifteen people have

519
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:45.200
given us a star rating on Spotify. We're fifteen, ladies

520
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:49.319
and gentlemen. We keep that up. We'll break one hundred never, okay,

521
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:50.799
but now fifteen is still good.

522
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So thank you very much for doing that. So yeah,

523
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there you have it.

524
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I'll see if I can do any work on it today.

525
00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:00.359
And well, thank you to those who listen, thank you

526
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:03.839
very much. We appreciate it. Those who download and stream,

527
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:10.000
thank you very much. And yeah, all that that gives

528
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me a little bit more encouragement to do something else.

529
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So we'll keep working at it and we'll just see.

530
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I don't know again, I don't know what it means.

531
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:21.039
It's it's that's the thing we're doing, broadcasting. You don't

532
00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:23.839
know what it means? Uh, I guess the main way

533
00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:28.319
you can find out is by being all over social media.

534
00:30:28.599 --> 00:30:30.200
Then you'll get that feedback, but you know what you're

535
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gonna get. You're gonna get a lot of people who

536
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hate you. So even as encouraging as it could be,

537
00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:38.680
it typically becomes more discouraging. And if you've noticed, I've

538
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stopped giving out email. I've stopped all of that just

539
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:45.920
because I just want to be able to broadcast and

540
00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:53.960
hopefully stay out of controversy and just just hopefully produce

541
00:30:54.119 --> 00:30:57.519
content that will do I guess you know that email.

542
00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:00.799
I mean, maybe he said it best. If I can

543
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:05.359
find the email, where is it, Maybe he said it best.

544
00:31:05.640 --> 00:31:09.359
Theology central. Theology central makes me think about different sides

545
00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:11.519
of an issue or passage, even if I don't agree,

546
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:14.000
which is what I like. I do try to make

547
00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:18.119
people think. So yeah, I guess that. If that's what

548
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:19.680
I accomplished, then so be it.

549
00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:21.279
I don't know if I accomplish anything else.

550
00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:23.319
But thank you so very much to everyone who listens,

551
00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:27.319
everyone who financially supports. Thank you so very much. To

552
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:30.640
everyone who encourages. Thank you so very much. Most importantly,

553
00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:35.359
for every listen, every stream, every download. Thank you so

554
00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:38.640
very much. To anyone who's gone to Spotify or Apple

555
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:42.599
podcast anywhere gave us a five star rating. Thank you

556
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:46.119
so very much. We greatly appreciate it. When I say we,

557
00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:46.680
who's the wei.

558
00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:47.559
There's no one else.

559
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:52.559
Here, It's just me. There's no way to hello hello,

560
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:54.720
there's no one else in the room. There's no one.

561
00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:59.200
There's no one, just a bunch of empty coat cans.

562
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:00.599
Mm hmmm.

563
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:06.319
Books. It's it's a it's a total disaster area, right, Okay,

564
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thank you for listening. Everyone, have a great day, and

565
00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:14.799
we'll get back to regular, regular scheduled programming in our

566
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:17.200
very next episode. Hopefully we'll do something more than just

567
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:19.480
talk about this, but that gives you a little.

568
00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:20.839
Insight what's going on behind the scenes.

569
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:23.599
Thanks for listening. Everyone, have a great Friday, a great weekend.

570
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God bless