The Vatican and AI

0:02 Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is the Theology Central podcast, making Theology Central Good Evening everyone. It is Tuesday, January the twenty eighth, twenty twenty five. It is currently nine fifty eight pm Central Time, and I am coming to you live from the Theology Central studio located right here in Applene, Texas. Almost forgot, almost forgot what to say. The reason I almost forgot what to say is because my mind is a little distracted here because this is kind of like all happening in real time, and so I don't have everything completely mapped out or even really a strategy and exactly the right way to approach this. But I feel like if I'm going to address it, I need to address it right now.

0:52 Sometimes I believe things are somewhat time sensitive. Sometimes I believe they aren't. I know, the reality is, it's not really that time sensitive. Here's the thing. The reality is people will start talking about this, maybe tomorrow, maybe the next day, maybe a week from now. Some Christian podcasters will pick it up, some of those who cover the news will start talking about it, and it'll start gaining, you know, some traction. But I don't like to be wait till everyone else talks about it. I prefer to talk about it first. So I guess in my mind I'm saying, oh, this is time sensitive. I guess in reality, I could just wait, let everyone else talk about it, then offer my opinion. I mean, do people really care that I talk about it first? Probably not, But I guess the reason it's time sensitive. If I don't talk about this now, then what I'm going to do is when I finally lay down to try to get some sleep, I'm gonna just be sitting there thinking about, well, I could talk about it this way. Well, I could address it this way. Well, I could say this, Oh, let me look this up. Wait, let me just get up and oh, let me let me Oh, I could do this, Oh, I could let me okay, let me check this, let me ooh what about this? What about this? And the next thing you know, it's been an hour, hour and a half. I haven't slept because I'm sitting there already mapping out what I'm going to do. So now, that would probably make the episode better tomorrow, But why not just turn on the microphone now and speak about it.

2:20 So That's what I'm going to do. Here is what was happening. Okay, I had been reading a comic book. It was really good, had a great time. Then I thought, maybe I'll listen to a little bit of music late evening music listening. Okay, that's always fun. Maybe I will do that. And then I saw the news headline. The news headline read Vatican warns AI artificial intelligence could undermine the very foundations of society, and I'm like, whoa, The Vatican is warning that artificial intelligence could under the very foundations of society. And I'm like, okay, you've you got my attention now. The first reason I got my attention is just because I saw the two letters AI artificial intelligence.

3:12 And if you've been paying any attention to this broadcast, we've been talking about artificial intelligence. It already feels like for a year, but really we've just been spending all of twenty twenty five and I've said, it's going to really be kind of the focus, right and I'm trying to look at how artificial intelligence is going to impact Christianity, how it's going to impact theology, Bible study, Bible interpretation, hermeneutics, that how it's going to impact that. And you know, you already know kind of my hypotheses, which is basically, AI makes the church as far as being an institution that is supposed to teach the word of God, supposed to preach, teach, equip people in the and the teaching of God's words, providing in depth teaching of doctrine, theology, church history, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. As far as the church being an institution where it is supposed to preach and teach the word of God, AI makes the church absolutely irrelevant because AI can do far better than the church ever can, and it's preaching and teaching mission. Now, if you are a sacramental church and you offer sacraments, then okay, if you decide, well, the church can do something AI can't. We can be a place of quote unquote community. You can be a place where you can make friends and have relationships and hold hands and sing Kumbaya or you know, have activities and potlucks, and well,

4:45 then you're right, the AI cannot compete with that. But if you believe that the focus of the church is teaching preaching, well AI can. Well We've already demonstrated it and it outperforms every single time. I mean, we've placed AI versus sermons, ANDAI has won every single battle that we have placed it in. And I think if we were going to continue to do that through twenty twenty five, and I think we're going to clearly demonstrate AI it's just superior, it's better. And I don't think that I don't even think that's debatable anymore. I don't even think it's you can really argue. Someone may try to well, I prefer well, you may prefer I would rather prefer something that does better than maybe something that meets my personal preference. Is my own, my own kind of take on it, especially when it comes to preaching and teaching.

5:36 So we have been really talking about AIAIAI. Now this headline seems to focus on what the Vatican is saying, how AI could undermine the foundations of society. Now, what are those foundations of society? Doesn't believe it can undermine. If you say the Church is one of the foundations of society, then you would be saying AI is going to undermine the Church. I don't think the Vatican is saying that. So we'll have to try to find out exactly what we saying. But it caught my attention, so immediately, of course, I clicked on the news article and it took me to Barons dot com. Barons dot com. This was published January twenty eighth, twenty twenty five, at seven nineteen a m. Eastern Standard time. Now, on one hand, I'm a little mad at myself for kind of kicking myself because why didn't I see this this morning? Well, because I was doing other things this morning that you know, really had no significance or important. It was more just I was doing things for fun, as staid of this, And I'm like, man, how did I miss this? Okay, So here is the headline, Vatican warrens AI could undermine foundations of society. Okay, so this really, I mean that's a Now is that the headline? Is the headline being hyperbolic?

6:59 Is the headline? Or is the Vatican really like really concerned about it? Now at this point, now this is my way my mind was thinking. The headline caught my attention mainly because I had AI. While I've been talking about AI. I'm like, okay, that's good. But I just thought maybe the AI just or the AI Vatican just kind of released a statement. It was nothing of any real significance. So I thought, okay, i'll look at the article I'm interested, and maybe we'll talk about it. But I still wasn't necessarily like I need to turn on the microphone right then, but until I read this. The Vatican published a new text on artificial intelligence Tuesday, and I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, they published a text.

7:55 I'm like, I've got to look this up. So I started searching, found myself to the Vatican website, and I have the entire document here. I believe I transferred it over into a PDF file. I can't remember exactly how many pages I've got the outline here and everything about it. But we'll talk about the document itself. We'll talk about the document itself. Let's go back to the news article, because I'll show you what the news article leaves out, and then I'm going to try to fill in a couple of things. All right, So here is the news article again, published this morning. The Vatican published a new text on artificial intelligence Tuesday, warning that the tool AI artificial intelligence could destroy the trust on which societies are built while humans become cogs in a machine. WHOA, okay, the Vatican, I mean that sounds hyperbolic to me, all right, because first, AI could destroy the trust in which societies are built. Okay, I'm nate, you call me. You can say that I'm jaded, you can say that I'm cynical, you can say that I'm negative, and a lot of people would because you hear a lot of my cynicism

9:25 and how cynical I am, and a lot of the broadcast I do, but I am, and a lot of it is based off a phiological understanding of something, and that theological understanding is that the human heart is desperately wicked and deceitful above all things. Well, if the human heart is deceitful above all things, why did we ever think society was built on trust? Who should you trust? I don't trust me, I don't trust you. You shouldn't trust anyone, especially You're It's funny because I think sometimes as Christians, we believe humans are born sinful. The heart is desperately wicked, it is deceitful above all things. But of course, and the Christian way of thinking, as soon as someone becomes a Christian, well that's no longer true, and of course that's all goes away, which I think is a fraudulent and horrible theology, because we see in two thousand years of church history, our hearts are still wicked, still deceitful, And that reality proves itself Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

10:33 It proves itself in the church, it proves itself outside the church. So okay, but they're cold blaming AI now again, I would say this is what I would say. See if I was writing this, I would say what I would warn That humans could destroy the trust and which societies are built. I wouldn't say AI could destroy the trust. Humans could destroy the trust in which society built. While humans become cogs in a machine, I think in some ways we're already cogs in a machine. And the political machine or the economic machine, we're we're we we we we find ourselves as cogs just making a business continue to operate, a corporation to continue to operate, a political system to continue to operate. I think we're already cogs in the machine. Dare I say religious institutions, we're just cogs in the machine. We need that. They need the numbers, they need the attendance, they need the money to keep the machine. I think we're always cogs in the machine.

11:36 I know, I'm very jaded. Again, everyone AI is going to cause it. No, we're gonna cause it. We people may use AI to bring this about, but I think we've already been undermining the trust in the trust in which societies have built. Humans have been doing that even way before AI. That's just my assessment here. Now. The next paragraph says Pope Francis has been has on a regular basis, been a victim of fake news and doctored photographs. Well, you know why he's been a victim of fake news and doctored photographs because of human beings who create it and share it, and people who don't bother to care to pursue truth, to pursue verification, to pursue evidence. They just buy it and then they share it on social media.

12:27 Christians have been sharing falsover again. I've told the story a million times. I moved from Nebraska back to Texas because the military moves me here. We go visit a church on a Sunday night out in the middle of nowhere, West Texas. At the end of the sermon, the pastor says, there's an atheist woman and she's trying to remove Christian broadcasting from the television. We have to stop it. So we have a petition here that we're going to send to the federal government to tell them not to remove Christian broadcasting from television networks. And everybody was like, oh, no, they go sign it. I'm sitting there going it's fake. It's fake, it's not real. And of course guess what they signed it. They sent it off to the federal government.

13:10 I don't know if it was a week later, two weeks later, four weeks later, I don't know when it was. It was Focus on the Family, I believe on their radio programs, like, guys, it's a hoax. It's not true. The atheist woman they're talking about is dead. She's not doing this. The federal government is asking you to stop sending your petitions. Did Christians bother to get the information? Was it AI's fault? It was human's fault. And I've how many times the Great Satanic Scare of the eighties, way before AI was running around, Oh there's Satanic cults out there, it's gonna kidnap your children all of the I've seen it over and over and over. Humans lie, Humans make up conspiracy theories, humans spread them. For I trust AI before I trust people. Now you can say, but people could use AI, Yes they could. I understand that, but it will still at the core the problem will be us. AI will just be a tool that we use. Right, So, Pope Francis has been a victim of fake news. Doctor Photographs cautioned earlier this month that AI could be misused to manipulate minds. AI could be misused to manipulate minds.

14:25 But who would be the doing the manipulating of minds? Human beings using AI? The problem is the human race. Okay, that's the problem. The Vatican text elaborates on his thinking. I quote, AI generated fake media can gradually undermine the foundations of society end quote this read This is from the text written by two Vatican departments and approved by the eighty eight year old pontiff, quoting again, as deep fakes cause people to question everything. You should have already been questioning everything way before DEEP appeared, and AI generated false content erodes trust and what they see and hear.

15:06 Polarization and conflict will only grow, the document says again another quote, such widespread deception is no trivial matter. It strikes at the core of humanity, dismantling the foundation of trust in which societies are built. So it sounds like that at least the news article is focusing on the fact that the document is talking about deep fakes, how the how the tool could be misused, and I'm all fought. I got no problem saying, hey, guys, here's this tool. It can be misused. And you know what, go back to the beginning of the Internet. Great tool. We can communicate with one another, we can share information. And what did human beings decide to use the internet for? How much misinformation is shared via the Internet. It's human beings.

15:56 We're the We're the problem. Okay, I don't know why we can't acknowledge that. The Vatican release the text three weeks after tech giant Meta, which owns Facebook, announced it was ending its third party fact checking program and the United States and adopting a crowdsource model to police misinformation, similar to that at Elon Musk owned x. Now, a lot of these social media companies are getting ready of the getting rid of the fact checkers. Now, what's bizarre is many conservatives, many Christians are like, that's right, we don't want any fact checking. We don't want it. We want to be able to say whatever we want. We don't want anyone to delete our posts because it's fraudulent and misinformation. I find out bizarre that Christians are the ones who are so celebrating it now. At the same time, I do understand. You know, you could then argue, but who are the fact checkers? Who are fact checking the fact checkers? But the problem is we have such a in our society. Everyone thinks they're an expert. Everyone thinks they know everything, and if they disagree with anyone, if someone puts forth an idea or stats or facts that go against their theory, they will just label that misinformation or fake news, and so then everyone thinks they're an expert and it just creates chaos. But okay, you can argue whether we should have fact checkers don't have fact checkers.

17:26 As Christians, we should be the fact checkers because we should We want to put away lying and we want to speak the truth and guess what that means, even if the truth goes against what we want or what we think or what we feel, we should be the ones embracing it. But okay, that gets into a whole different discussion. The news article continues, misinformation, especially through AI controlled or influenced media, can spread unintentionally, fueling political polarization and social unrest. The Vatican Tech said it warned of a shadow of evil looming over the tool, and said the concentration of the power over mainstream AI applications and the hands of a few powerful companies raised significant ethical concerns. Now, you could argue in a minute, a few companies are going to have the hand on this, So I understand, But just remember, the issue is that the artificial intelligence.

18:26 The issue is the people. It's the people that's the issue. Francis has acknowledged. Pope Francis, who is being referred to here, has acknowledged what he has called the immense potential of AI and the text sites, medical applications, climate related challenges, and education as areas in which it could be invaluable. Now, I do appreciate that at least the Vatican acknowledges all the things AI can do, all the positives it can do.

19:06 I do appreciate that. The article goes on to say, but it could also de skilled workers, subject them to automated surveillance, and regulate them to rigid and repetitive task and risk and risk being used to replace human workers rather than complement them. Now I understand that that's the AI is going to replace us. AI is going to replace us. Just note that whenever a new technology emerges, there's always the potential someone is going to be replaced because that technology can do what used to It used to take three people to do this, or five people to do this. Now it only takes one person or two people. That's always been the case. Whenever there's an advancement in any technological advancement, right, we can do we can create an assembly line where we can do this.

20:01 It used to take individuals. Now now machines can do part of the work and we just need humans to kind of guide this or check this or do It's always the case. It's not a oh, AI is gonna replace us. We've been saying that about every form of technology that ever comes along. What happens is just people are gonna have to learn new skills to get new jobs that are gonna be more in line that will work around with and through or around around and with artificial intelligence. That's just the way it's going to happen. I mean, look a, I said this all year. I've been saying it all year. AI is not going away. This is not some fad. It's going to systematically change society as we know it. You're either gonna wake up and realize that. Are you gonna wake up when now you're gonna be so far left behind you're not gonna even know what happened? Okay, It's like someone waking up one day going what happened my am radio? I'm barely getting any station because no one uses it anymore except for a few talk shows. Okay, that's it, all right, come on, we moved on. You get the idea, all right.

21:10 It goes on to say AI cannot be a substitute for human relationships, all right, particularly in medicine where at risk worsening the loneliness that often accompanies illness. It said, so, hey, AI cannot And I think that's really the takeaway. AI cannot be a substitute for human relationships. Now you may want to write that phrase down. AI cannot be a substitute for human relationships. Ladies and gentlemen. You want to know that all the conferences that are going to be happening over the next year, two years about how to grow your church. It's going to be the church is a place of human connection. The church is a place of human relationships. Don't do your life alone. You need people, You need a support system. Church is going to focus on being a social club. You think I'm kidding. It's going to go there because preachers, Oh, you're gonna be preaching on what Well, I'm sorry, I just asked AI, and it gave me a fifty time This sermons one hundred times better than whatever you just gave me. I had to spend forty five minutes listening to you. This gave me the entire thing in five minutes or five seconds, and it's a million times better than what you just did to the text. Now, it may take a wall for people to get there, but the younger generation is gonna get there and realize, oh a sermon, Well, AI can give me whatever I need on any scripture that I want, But what can it not give you human relationships?

22:42 The church is going to realize that's its life. That's gonna be It's survival is you come here to be with people. You come here and we're gonna we're gonna frame it and like, you can't do your Christian life alone. There's no loan ranger. Christians. You need people. You need people that we're gonna sell the need for people. The next sentence and using it uh to to you know, watch people, to survelliance, to self surveillance people. It will be aimed at exploiting, restricting others freedom or benefiting few at the expense of the many is unjustifiable. So if this turns into a system where you're watching people and checking on people, and AIS used that way, they said, that's gonna be a bad thing. But again, even before artificial intelligence, you know things that are watching you, things that are tracking you, things that are controlling. First, you've got cameras and all over major cities, and I always people like they're watching me, they're watching You've got a cell phone in your hand. What what in the world would Okay, you're already in a sense tracked. Okay, So I I don't know why artificial art or artificial intelligence will just be better at it all right. Uh, the dangers of lethal atimeonomous weapons demand serious attention, it said, recalling that Francis has urged a prohibition on their use. Hey, what could happen is now you could have AI that could be basically be an autonomous weapon, don't need humans to do it the AI, and so you are going

24:14 to have AI robots fighting each other in future wars. I know, is that a good thing or a bad thing may eliminate the death of human soldiers. But then yeah, we could get into I mean, it raises lots of ethical questions about the future, and then it goes the last sentence. The atrocities committed throughout history are enough to raise deep concerns about the potential abuses of AI. But let me make it very clear who committed those atrocities throughout history without the use of AI. Human beings. So well, human beings use AI to commit atrocities, Yes, But the problem is not artificial intelligence. The problem is people. People are the problem. Look, that's always the issue. That's where all problems start. Now, you could argue, well, AI gives them greater tools. It does, now, but how much do you want to regulate it? What do you do? And even if you regulate it, you're gonna stop it. I kind of want it. Yeah, you gonna get into all kinds of questions there. Now, that's the entire news article.

25:16 Did you see what was missing? No link to the actual text, no name of the actual text. They don't give you anything. So I'm like, well for crying out loud, come on, who's journalism today? I mean, I thought we learn in journalism like who, what, where? Where? And how like? You don't give the name of the document. You don't give a link to the document. You supposedly have quotes to the document, but you don't give me a link to the document so that I can check to see if I can find said quotes and the document. You don't give me anything. And it's like, that's the problem with journalism. Okay. So I had to go do a little bit of searching and I looked and I looked and found the document. The document in Latin is I think it would be stated like this, Atiqua at Nova.

26:09 Attiqua at Nova would be the I think Antiqua. Yeah, Antiqua Atiqua at Nova. My Latin is not great. I took Latin when I was pursuing a degree in Catholic theology, but I took it just to pass the class. Right, Antiqua at Nova. But that's West Texas accent on Latin. All right, that's the name of the document, Antiqua at Nova. Now you may say, well, what in the world is that? What does that mean? Well, it means note on the relationship between artificial intelligence and human intelligence. All right, Atiqua at nova Note on the relationship between Artificial Intelligence and human and eligence. You can find this at the Vatican website Vatican dot Va. Look for Antiqua et nova. It's a document that was released by the Vatican and you can I and what I'm going to do is I'm going to attach the PDF file to this episode so that you can read it for yourself. That's what you always do. Listen. This is just a rule of thumb.

27:24 I don't care if it's a government bill that's being put forth for vote, if it's a House resolution, if it's if it's Obamacare. I remember, I got so sick and tired of hearing Christian podcasts say in Obamacare, they're going to do this, and they're going to put a microchip in you, and they're gonna do this, and they're gonna kill you, and they're gonna put you on a FEMA care Lie, lie, lies, lies, lies. I mean, don't we made it through the entire Obama administration. All the things Christians said were going to happen did not happen. And it was so irritating because when the Obama healthcare plan was kind of being released, I remember me and the doctors we printed the entire thing out. It was like it was like five hundred pages, and we said we used our lunch breaks for I don't know a week or two going through the pages going well, what about this, Well what about this, and what about this?

28:11 And what about this? And it's like, Okay, the doctors I worked with atheist agnostics, they're going through the document, have giving me real information about what's in it, what's not in it. We're discussing it. And then I would go home, get on Facebook or wherever, and then here Christians, Oh, it's got the mark of the beast. It's gonna do this. They're gonna kill you. They're gonna do this. They're gonna and it's like, for crying out loud, I'm gonna go hang out with the atheist. So whenever there's a document, do yourself a favor. Don't comment until you read the document. Okay, I have the document right here, So what I'm going to do is I'm going to attach the PDF file so that you can read it, which fits perfectly with our discussion about artificial intelligence this year, and the A and the Vatican has given us an entire doc again in English. It's entitled Note on the Relationship between Artificial Intelligence and Human Intelligence? Do you want to hear the introduction?

29:10 Here's the introduction? Are you ready with wisdom both ancient and new? With wisdom both ancient and new? Open parentheses Matthew thirteen fifty two, Close parentheses. Matthew thirteen fifty two reads like this, then said he unto them, This is Jesus speaking. Therefore, every scribe which is instructed onto the Kingdom of Heaven is lack unto a man, that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old, brings forth things new and old. All right, go back with wisdom both ancient and new. So the document's going to begin with bringing this idea of new wisdom and old wisdom. We are called. We are called to reflect on the current challenges and opportunities posed by scientific technological advancements, particular by the recent development of artificial intelligence.

30:24 So the Vatican is saying that what we need to think about is utilizing wisdom from of old ancient wisdom and new wisdom. Using wisdom that we need to reflect. You and I all right, as Christians now or as Catholics, but we'll apply it to us. And I think I think we can just say, do we agree with this at least hypotheses? Do you agree that as Christians we should reflect on current challenges and opportunities posed by scientific and technological advancement advancements, particularly by the recent development of artificial intelligence. I think as Christians we should consider all their dangers, risk, how it will change. We need to consider AI. That's what I've been saying all year. I was saying it at the end of last year. We need to start thinking about artificial intelligence. It's going to change everything everyone. We need to consider what it can do, what it can do, what it can do better, what it can't do better, and then what are the ramifications of that. So I'm in a complete agreement with this idea.

31:37 The document from the Vatican released today goes on to say the Christian tradition regards the gift of intelligence as an essential aspect of how humans are created in the image of God Genesis one twenty seven, starting from an integral vision of the human person and the biblical calling to till and keep the earth Genesis two fifteen. The Church emphasizes that this gift of intelligence should be express through the responsible use of reason and technical abilities, and the stewardship of the created world. So, in other words, it's saying that intelligence is this amazing thing that we've been given and we should use it and use it in a correct way for good. All right, Okay, now that comes down to then we could then circle this around and bring this back to what I've been saying.

32:39 How is the church going to use artificial intelligence? How do we use it? I mean to me, the church is going to really fall into the role of teaching people how to use it philologically and biblically. And then once we teach everyone how to use it, then we're no longer needed. But yeah, how do we use it? People are going to have to be instructed in how to use it and use it correctly. I do strongly believe that paragraph two, this is all from the introduction, The Church encourages the advancement of science, technology, the arts, and other forms of human endeavor, viewing them as part of a collaboration of man and women with God and perfecting the visible creation. Now it quotes from an apocryphal book, I think Syrac as Syrac affirms God gave skill to human beings that he might be glorified in his marvelous works.

33:38 Then it goes on, human abilities and creativity come from God and when used rightly, glorified God by reflecting His wisdom and goodness and light of this, when we ask ourselves what it means to be human, we cannot exclude a consideration of our scientific and technological abilities. So technical technological abilities, science, that's still a part of being human. How does it work together, how does it fit together? And how do we use it ultimately for the glory of Godden for the good of others? Okay, basic kind of concept. Now it goes on to say it is within this perspective that the present note note on the relationship between Artificial intelligence and artificial intelligence and human intelligence addresses the anthropological and ethical challenges raised by a I.

34:33 Issues that are particularly significant as the one of goals of this technology is to imitate the human intelligent that designed it, so it says that, Hey, one of the goals of artificial intelligence is to ultimately imitate the intelligence that created it, which would be us. Right now, Again, from a thiological perspective, if artificial intelligence can imitate human intelligence, but it can imitate the intelligence without the corruption of the sinful nature, then from a philological perspective, and intelligence that does not have the corruption of human sinfulness of depravity, that intelligence would be superior to human intelligence because human intelligence is corrupted by sinful nature. I'm just looking at it from a purely theological perspective. Now, the issue is can it imitate human intelligence without the corruption of human intelligence? Oh, that gets into some serious philosophical and theological issues, which I know is the perfect thing for you to go to bed to go to bed listening to. But it's something we have to add that. I think that's an important question. If you want to write something down to have a deep conversation about tomorrow, or if you're laying in bed listening to this with your husband or with your wife, you can you know when it's over, you can say, so, do you think artificial intelligence can imitate human intelligence without the corruption of human depravity? And if

36:06 it can imitate human intelligence without the corruption of human depravity? Does that not then make its intelligence superior to man? Now we've already noted and what we I don't know if you've been paying attention all of the things we've been doing with artificial intelligence. I know it's not getting a lot of attraction, and most people are not paying any attention to what I'm doing. And that's okay, don't pay attention. A year from now, two years from now, you can be like, why was no one talking about this? I was talking about it, and you can come back and go, well, maybe we should have listened. Someone needs to pay attention to what I'm trying to tell people. It's important. But here's the thing, what have we already seen. AI can can immediately show us how humans are flawed in their hermeneutical approach, how they do is of Jesus instead of exit Jesus, even though when they're claiming it, how their sermons have logical fallacies factual fallacies. AI can already do all of that. That's already in some ways, AI is already critiquing human intelligence. So if AI can already critique human intelligence, and if AI can imitate that human intelligence and be superior than human intelligence. And then you add to it, it doesn't have the corruption of human intelligence because human intelligence is corrupted by art depravity.

37:29 I mean, come on now, from just if you just take your theology and go follow it logically, then AI is going to be superior. Right. Well, you can have that wonderful conversation as you're laying in bed. You can see if it leads to a fight, and you know somebody wants to get divorced tomorrow, don't blame me all right now the introduction continues. For instance, unlike many other human creations, AI can be trained on the results of human creativity and then generate new artifacts with a level of speed and skill that rivals or surpasses what humans can do. Absolutely right, when it comes to theology, if I want AI, give me a chapter summary method, Bible stuff, give me a Bible study method. Using the chapter summary method on Matthew chapter thirteen, AI can produce that in about five seconds. It would take me how many verses in Matthew thirteen? See I would have to live fifty eight oh man, that could take me. That could take me a long time to do all the steps of chapter summary method, AI can do it in five seconds.

38:46 If I want an in depth exegetical study of Matthew thirteen, verse by verse study of Matthew thirteen, it could break it down and give it to me in five seconds. It would take me probably months to put together. It could give me an observational outline of Matthew thirteen in seconds. It would take me a week to put it together. So at least it's acknowledging that it can already outperform us in many cases. It says AI can be trained on the results of human creativity and produce tech and then generate new artifacts with a level of speed and skill that often rivals or surpasses what humans can do, such as producing text or images indistinguishable indistinguishable from human compositions.

39:35 This raises critical concerns about AI's potential role and the growing crisis of truth and the public form. Now again, I get tired of the complaining about the growing crisis of truth in the public form. The growing crisis of truth is in the church, where Christians lie, spread misinformation, false information, buy into conspiracy theories, and they never stink stop even when they are confronted and proven wrong. And I saw this way back in the early days of Facebook, where I felt like I spent most of my life calling out Christians like that's not true, that's not true, that's fargilant information. That's not true, that's not true, that's not true, that's stop listening to Alex Jones. Okay, we saw this during COVID. All right, I can tell you things I heard on Christian podcasts utterly insanity. The COVID vaccine was putting you know my you know, basically microbots into our bodies, right, and that it would get into our blood streams. We'd have these nanobots, now, nanobots put into our bloodstream right through the COVID vaccine, and then when five G was turned on, then nanobots would then take us over, destroy our free will, and then make us ready to submit to the Antichrist. I'm like, you've got this is this is what Christians are saying. But hey, hey, but there's a there's a crisis of truth in the public form. Hey, we judgment became at the House of the Lord. How about all the nons? How many times we've listened to sermons in review. I'm like, that's just fraud,

41:06 that's a straight up lie. That's just not true, that just isn't true. And then we go and verify and it's not true. And the sermons are nobody. Nobody's gonna say a word about them, because you know, they just say Jesus three times, and I guess all the lies and the sermon are okay. Moreover, this technology is designed to learn and make certain choices autonomously, adapting to new situations, providing solutions not foreseen by its programmers, and thus it raises fundamental questions about ethical responsibility and human safety, with broader implications for society as a whole. This new situation has prompted many people to reflect on what it means to be human and the role of humanity in the world.

41:49 Now we I'll stop right there because I've already gone longer. I wanted to be done at the bottom of the hour. I've gone nine minutes over, but because i just wanted to introduce this to you. All right, So what is going on? We've been talking about artificial intelligence all year and we're going to continue to do so. I think it's one of the most important things every church, every Christian needs to be discussing. It's going to absolutely fundamentally change everything, not only in society, within the church. The church doesn't realize it yet. The church is so blind to what's happening right now. There are those who are addressing it, but at large, people don't realize don't that.

42:29 I don't think they understand yet. So the Vatican today put out a document Antiqua at Nova, that means note on the relationship between artificial intelligence and human intelligence. I've read three paragraphs of the introduction. There's a lot of you know how many total paragraphs there are in this document. There are one hundred and seventeen paragraphs in this document, all right, one hundred and seventeen. You need to read all of them and see what they are having to say. We will, we'll try to kind of do an overview in a summary and an outline and a critique of the document. We'll try to do that a little bit more tomorrow. But what I'm going to do now is I'm going to attach as soon as I upload this episode.

43:20 Now for those who listen to me on Pandora, Spotify, you to all the other places people listen to us on, you'll need to go to. You'll either need to download the Sermons two point oh app Sermons two point oh. Once you download it, look for Theology Central, look for this the Vatican and AI and you'll see the attached pdf file. Or you can just download the Church one app Church O n E. That's Church O n E. Download the Church one app. Search for Theology Central basically turns the Church one app into the Theology Central app. Then you can well you'll see all of our content. Everything's broken down into series. You can listen to me when I'm live, and you get notifications whenever I go live or do anything else or send out a notice or anything. So the Church one app is a great way to be able to get the PDF file. So, or you can go to the Vatican and you can look for Antiqua at Nova if I'm saying that correctly, and you can read it for yourself. All right, there we have it now. I guess we'll end with this question.

44:32 If artificial intelligence is design to basically replicate, to be to basically be like human intelligence, but maybe even trying to be an improvement upon human intelligence. If AI can basically be just like human intelligence, but it can do so without the corruption of human nature, does that not in the make artificial intelligence superior to man's intelligence. From a philological perspective, human intelligence has this and has this, Yeah, and all the positives things you say about human intelligence that AI intelligence may not have. I can also say, but it has one big problem depravity. It's corrupted. So but then does that corruption carry over to artificial intelligence, which is in a sense mimicking being? Like, what is the word the what is the term that AI that the Vatican use to describe it? It kind of hang on.

45:40 It says here that the goal of the technology is to imitate the human intelligence that designed it. If artificial intelligence imitates human intelligence, but it can imitate it without the corruption of human intelligence, then does that not make artificial intelligence superior from a purely thilological perspective? And if it makes it superior, what are the implications of that? I don't have it all figured out, but I wanted to bring this to your attention before everyone else starts talking about it. All right, all right, thanks for listening, everyone, have a great evening. I've given you some very important things to discuss. We'll be talking about this more, all right, And I will upload As soon as I upload this, I will try to attach the pdfile. If for some reason it doesn't work, well, then it won't be there, but I'm hoping it will all right. Thanks for listening everyone, have a great night. God bless