Spotify: Theology Central

0:02 Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central. Stop what you are doing right now? Stop. I was going to scream. Stop. I was going to scream, but then I thought someone would be listening in their car, and then I would scream, and then they would yank the steering wheel and have a wreck, and then they'd be trying to sue the Theology Central Podcast. Okay, but I need you to stop what you are doing. If you're driving, just pull over to the side of the road, put on your hazards, pull into a shopping center or a convenience store. Just stop what you are doing. And what I need you to do right now is that phone you have in your hand or that tablet. I need you to go to your app store of choice, which is either the Apple App Store or the Google Play Store. I guess you don't really have a choice. If you have an Android device, it's Google Play. If you have the Apple device, it's the Apple App Store. Go to the app store on your device and download Spotify. I need you to download Spotify right now. You say, but I don't want to subscribe to Spotify. You don't have to use it as a subscription service, you can use it as a free podcasting app. And that's what we're going to talk about, because we need to try to fix something, and we need to try to fix it. Now. We're going to talk about Spotify podcast Christian podcast on Spotify, this podcast, this podcast on Spotify, and hopefully, hopefully we can. I don't know, maybe we can make an impact. I doubt we can, but we can try, and we'll talk about

1:34 all that. Oh, I guess what I should do. What I should do is I should say good afternoon everyone. It is Wednesday, February the fifth, twenty twenty five. It is currently two forty seven pm Central Time, and I'm coming to you live from the Theology Central Studio located right here in sunny summertime has arrived West Texas. Yes it is. It's like eighty something degrees right now. It's yes, summer has arrived back in Texas where it should have never left. It left for a few days. Didn't think I was going to survive. It got all around like thirty and that's the end of the world. But we survived. And now it's I had the ac on just a few minutes ago. But I had to turn off the AC so that we can talk about something else that's important.

2:20 My weather is not important, but we need to talk about something else. We've talked about it numerous times. We even kind of have an ongoing mini series where we are reviewing podcasts from a specific podcasting chart, and that would be the Spotify podcasting chart. We've been reviewing that. But we're going to be talking about Spotify. And here's the reason why. Late last night, Spotify sent me a link to a lot of new statistics that they have offered me because our podcast, the Theology Central Podcast, is available on Spotify. So they sent me a lot of analytic to look at and to consider, and I looked at all of them. I'm like, okay, well, let me just see what's going on on Spotify. I haven't checked in a while. Let me look and see what's going on on Spotify, specifically the religion and Spirituality podcasting chart, all right, because that kind of tells you where religious spiritual Christian podcast how they are doing on the Spotify on the Spotify app. And again, you can download Spotify even if you don't have a subscription. You can use it as a podcasting app. You need to understand that.

3:33 Now I'm going to start this and I'm going to start this discussion. It's going to be relatively quick. It's really just for your information. But I'm going to start this on a very practical level right on something that somewhat bothers me. Over and over and over, you hear Christians complain about there's so much false teaching in the church. There's so much heresy there. It's just a problem. The church is corrupt. False teaching is everywhere. False teach. They're corrupt, They're a heretic. They're a heretic. They're a heretic. They're a heretic. They're a heretic. And everyone yells about that and complains about that. But then time and time again, what I notice is that the people, the things that are being listened to, the things that are being downloaded, the things that are being shared, the things that are being financially supported, the things in which people are going and buying their merch Over and over and over, it tends to be Christian podcast that I think most Christians would argue there's some problems there, right. I know those who buy the merchant listen to it would argue and say, no, it's wonderful. But I think a majority of Christianity, or at least anything that's biblically sound, would be like, I think there's a problem. But when you look at, say the Spotify podcasting chart, where are the even if it's even if it's pastors and podcasters that I may disagree with to some level philologically, at least it would be like, Okay,

5:03 that's better than that, right that, even though I disagree with that, that's like, you know, ninety nine percent less poison than that. Sometimes the good ones are nowhere to be found. Now, I know some of you say, well, that's the way it's supposed to be, right, The good teaching is always going to be in the minority. Yeah, I do agree to some level, But I do know if people would, I don't know, support the good teaching, it could probably get a little bit more recognition, be noticed, become a little bit more relevant instead of being hidden. So I really get bothered when I look at the Spotify podcasting chart. I have been bothered by it foreveryone like where are the decent podcast Where are the good ones?

5:48 How come they can't gain any traction? Why not? Now? It may be because I don't know. Christians don't you Spotify. I don't know. Maybe they don't. I don't know, but we're gonna talk about it. So before we look at my analytics, let's do this. I'm gonna unplug my iPad. It'll probably die here in a minute, but that's okay. I'm gonna go open up the Spotify app and I'm looking at the top Religion and Spirituality podcast. Right. This is their chart. This is the chart of the top fifty, the top fifty Religion and Spirituality podcast. This is chart is updated every single day. Sometimes when I've been haven't looked at it in six months, and I come back, I'm like, well, if it's updated daily, I guess there's no room for anybody else to ever make the chart, okay, because it's always the same names. Right, you want to know what number one is today? Number one is the Bible in a Year with Father Mike SCHMIDTZ. Yes, the number one Religion is Spirituality podcast on Spotify is a Catholic podcast, not a not Now if you're Catholic, that's wonder You're like, Yes, the True Church, the Magisterium. We have a priest interpreting scripture. Okay, yeah, you're all happy, But for all of us who reject Catholicism and believe that it has a false gospel, that should be like, how is that number one? Now you could argue there are more Catholics than there are you know, Protestants, but

7:20 we don't have any podcasts. We can't do anything with, right, So that's number one. Number two, Girls Gone Bible. We've reviewed that. That's a train wreck of epic proportions. Girls gone Bible should be girls gone biblically crazy. I don't know what it should be called. That thing is a train we've we've reviewed it. What what that's number two? Then number three is the Bryce Crawford Podcast. I have no idea who who Bryce Crawford is. I have no idea who he is. But he clearly markets himself because it's him on the cover holding a microphone. Uh he sells merch right. I was listening to an episode really quick.

8:01 It was like, hey, before we get started, check out our merch by yourself some and I'm like, what, okay, all right? So that okay, so they got merchandise. So but he seems pretty popular. He's in the top two percent of all podcasts globally, or the top five percent. He's in the top two percent, so he's in a different stratosphere than I am. But he's number three. I was gonna review one of his broadcasts, but first the audio is a complete train wreck. It sounds like he's broadcasting from a kitchen. I think it's a video podcast. I don't know. Maybe we'll try to review it, but you can go listen to it. Number four is twenty eight twenty eight nineteen Church, twenty eight nineteen Church, twenty eight nineteen Church. I'm like, what is that? Twenty eight twenty eight nineteen Church, twenty eight is it? Two? Twenty eight nineteen Church, I don't twenty eight nineteen. What is is that? I don't know what that? Is? That a scripture?

8:57 I'm assuming twenty eight nineteen Matthew, Is I wonder? Matthew twenty eight twenty eight nineteen, Is this like going with a great commission? Now that I started thinking about it, it wasn't registering until I kept saying it, Yeah, go ye therefore and teach all nations. Okay, that's pretty clever. Twenty eight nineteen Church. Matthew twenty eight nineteen. I bet you that's what it's come. That's pretty clever. That's pretty clever. Look I figured it out. I know the rest of you are like you dummy, it's twenty eight nineteen. Obviously it's Matthew twenty eight nineteen. What is wrong with you? Hey? Be nyes? Okay, be nice? All right? You know it's one hundred and seventy five degrees here. Okay, I'm going to pass up when he Okay, it's not that high, all right, but I got to make some excuse. The sun got in my eyes. Okay something twenty eight nineteen Church, Oh, do you want to hear a little bit of it?

9:43 I do have this cute up here, Here we go, Here's how twenty eight nineteen Church Sounds and now Today's week one of our brand new series Entry. Today's Week one of our brand new series Entry and end times. Okay, man, I need some more dramatic music when I say this is this is week one of my new series on Isaiah forty Come yeah, I need I need Come on, what is wrong? I say? I gotta learn to hype things more. I gotta be more of a showman. That's what I need to do. Okay, I'm not criticizing it.

10:36 Some people love that. That's great. We're gonna review it. I have it queued up because it's on the End Times. It's in Matthew and I'm like, uh, oh, oh oh, where are we going? So we will review that. That's twenty eight twenty eight nineteen Church. That's the number four podcasts on Spotify. Number five the Bible Recap. Don't know anything about it. I see it everywhere. I think I've reviewed it, but I don't remember. Number six. Oh, Catholicism again. The Rosary in a year. That's number six. So we have the Bible in a year, and we have the Rosary in a year. Both of them are put out by Ascension, at which Ascension puts out their own version of the Catechism. It's really great the way they structure it.

11:16 And they put out a Bible. So yeah, all right, the next number seven Bible beginning to end, Bible beginning to end. Now that sounds somewhat interesting. It looks like they work through the entire Bible. That could be great. That's awesome. I've wanted to do something similar to that, but I'm not I'm not so good if I go Bible through a year, we end up in Genesis. Seventeen years later, we're still there. Yeah. I wish I could be more disciplined, but it could be good. That one could be good. That one looks like now. I did look at the description and it did talk about the Holy Spirit guiding you and directing of course all of that kind of stuff. So number eight Christ with coffee on ice, Christ with on ice, Ali Yost, I don't know what Christ with coffee on ices, but okay, there it is. Number nine is WHOA that's got That's good podcast?

12:13 WHOA That's good podcast? I guess is the way you would say it. Whoa Saddie robertson huff isn't she a part? I think she was a part of the Duck Dynasty group of people, and you're not allowed to criticize that because way back in the day I did criticism of Duck Dynasty when it was all on television, and ladies and gentlemen, the Christians who love dug Dynasty. I received phone calls at two and three in the morning threatening to kill me and my entire family. Yeah, so that was always wonderful, the phone ringing it two or three I'm going to kill you. I'm going to kill your family because you criticized duck dynasty. Well, God bless you as well. All right. The Bible Project is number ten. You think I'm joking, It's literally happened. My daughter was scared to go to church because she was afraid we were going to be killed because of the death threats because I criticized duty dynasty. Is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my life. All right. Number eleven.

13:05 And those were listeners on who listened to me on the Cermonatio platform who made those wonderful, you know, threats back in the day. All right, Yeah, that caused me lots. That really caused a crisis of faith in a lot of ways. All right. Number eleven, or is the ten minute Bible Talk devotional Bible study. That's a mouthful ten minute Bible talk devotional Bible study. We will review that because I want to know what they can pull off in ten minutes. Number twelve The Daily Blade, have no idea what that is? Number thirteen Elevation Church with Stephen Ferdick. Everyone criticizes him, everyone condemns him because what he's number thirteen. Number fourteen, Joel Ostein. All right, so he's up there.

13:50 I can go through here on a shame with the Robertson family. There's the Duck Dynasty people. They're number seventeen. I'm just jumping around. Number twenty The Catechism in a Year, More Catholicism. Let's see here. Number twenty two. The Father Mike schmids Catholic podcast. More Catholicism. Let's see here. Number twenty four, another Catholic podcast. So Catholicism dominates this big time. Oh, Billy Graham is number thirty four. Where did that come from? What in the world Billy Graham podcast had he's been what is that? Okay, that's interesting. I'm gonna have to listen to that. Just know what are they doing. Joyce Meyer is number thirty nine. Let's see here. I'm just looking around the Exorcist files. We have talked about that again.

14:43 Catholicism number forty eight. Sunday Homilies with Father Mike Schmidtz number forty nine. I'm telling you, Father Mike Schmidz, he is killing it in the podcasting world. Man, he's got podcast he's got multiple podcasts, and that group Ascension. I think he started it. They they own the Spotify podcasting chart. They own it. They really do. I mean it is crazy how much they own it. So Catholicism has figured out podcasting. Where's everybody else? I don't know. Charismatics have figured out podcasting? Where's everyone else? Okay, the seeker sensitive kind of church. They figured out podcasting. Where's everyone else?

15:28 Someone else? Please step up? We have to do what we can. So here's what I'm gonna challenge you to do. First of all, I challenge you to download the Spotify, the Spotify app. I was gonna say the Spotify podcasting app. But download Spotify. And when you were there, I'm gonna go to search. Go just go to what do you want to listen to? Type in Theology Central. Now, as soon as you type in theology we're gonna pop up. We are on there twice. The first one is the black background with the microphone. It has the wording Theology Central and green letters. And then you'll see sermon audio at the banner at the bottom. That's the sermon audio feed.

16:14 That's the sermon audio feed. Right. You can subscribe to that one as you want. The one right underneath that is the green background with the white circle with the Bible in the middle. It says Theology Center Central. That is our podcasting feed, and that's the one I want you to go to right now, and I want you to follow it, and I want you to give it a star rating. Okay, hopefully five stars. Go to Theology Central on right now on Spotify find us again the green background with the white circle, Theology Central, go get go to the other one as well. That adds numbers to our you know, sermon audio numbers. But as far as the podcasting world, if we're gonna get on the podcasting chart, we need this one, the green background, to really get some attention, all right, And I'm gonna explain everything in a minute, so please follow it, all right.

17:08 We're trying. What I want to do is to get to five hundred followers. We only currently only have one hundred and eighty three I think one hundred and eighty four, which for Spotify, that's horrifying, that's embarrassing, that's humiliating because Spotify is the number one podcasting app. YouTube would be first for video podcasts, but for audio podcasts, Spotify rules the day. If you're nothing on Spotify, you're nothing and that's okay, it's not even about me. But if you listen to this podcast, let's go, let's go. Let's let's see if we can get to five hundred. That would be great because right now we have more followers on YouTube and we're an audio podcast, and we do on Spotify where we're an audio podcast. That makes it's completely backwards.

17:51 All right, We have almost five hundred I think on YouTube. Okay, what is that? Right? So, and then there's that star rating. We have a four point four not great, but the main thing is only fourteen people. That's horrifying. Once again, that's horrible. That's horrifying. That's horrifying. So what I would ask you to do is, let's if you like the Theology Central podcast, please just consider listening, downloading, streaming anything that you want to listen to for Theology Central on Spotify. I don't think we can ever enter the chart, but let's see if we can. What we want to do is try to get the algorithm to at least pick it up and then start recommending it. And I'll show you what's happening right now with how people are discovering the podcast on Spotify. It's kind of an interesting development and I'll show you in a minute. But the main thing is if you hate me, that's okay, that's perfectly okay.

18:48 You can go give me zero star, you can give me one. You can leave comments telling me I'm trash. That's okay. Feel free to do that. I support your right to do that. But if you have a podcast that you think this is this is theology, this is church history, then for crying out loud, listen to it, support it, support it financially so that it can get on the chart. And I know what you're saying. Who cares about a podcasting chart? You may not care the one. The podcasts that end up on the chart are the ones the algorithm pushes out. So when people are on there looking for theology or Bible study or anything about Christianity, they're going to find those podcasts first. Now you may not care. You may think, well, they can go to a local church. The local church idea is an antiquated idea from a practical perspective. I'm not arguing about it from a theological perspective. People today, younger people today, when they want theological answers, they want things like that. They don't call a church, they go look online, they look on YouTube, they look on Pandora, they look on Spotify.

20:00 So if you have to get things so that it's up to the top. Personally, I think sermon Audio should have their own podcast called the sermon Audio Podcast, where one they promote sermon Audio, and two, not only do they have these times where they just promote talk about a feature, talk about any breaking news, any updates, but they also just grab random sermons, random sermons from sermon Audio and say, hey, today on the sermon Audio Podcast, we are going to broadcast this message from this church. And then they can help promote not only their platform, but promote those who are on their platform, and then hopefully people on Spotify going, oh I really like that.

20:46 Let me go to Sermonadio and listen to that person here. But you know, that's that's just my take. That's that's just something I could do. But and all the if you see a broadcaster on sermon Audio, if you a broadcaster on Serminati and you really really really like them, tell them to take their RSS feed and get it on Spotify. Why because then there's a high probability if they're a really big popular church that they can get all of their congregants to go download Spotify and listen, and then guess what Instead of being Catholicism or charismatic or craziness, it could be a church that I may strongly disagree with, right, but it may be far more biblical.

21:30 I like to disagree with the church that I have something far more in common biblically than a charismatic church or Catholicism, which I am complete. You know, I don't agree if I'd be Catholic, if I if I completely agreed, so that I wish we could find a way to fix that. But for today, download Spotify and just start trying to download and stream on the Theology Central there. Please keep track how quick does it take for a new episode to show up? Just kind of monitor it, watch it, have your notifications on. Do you get a notification for a new episode of Theology Central on the Spotify app? Just all of those kinds of things. Right, But here is the information that I wanted to tell you about. All right, so they sent me an overview here.

22:18 All right, now, I'm gonna go do a couple of things here. I'm going to go up here because I had AI break down all of the information sent to me, right I had. Ai'm like, hey, what do I make from all of this? And Ai man, I'm scrolling up. There's like five hundred pages here. All right, AI says this, all right, here's an analysis of the Theology Central podcast Spotify analytics based on the information provided. All Right, here we go. So far, we've had twelve thousand, nine hundred and nine listen streams and downloads twelve nine hundred and nine on Spotify. That's that's pretty embarrassing. That's pretty embarrassing. Right.

23:01 Oh the total followers, Oh I thought I said one eighty four. Say it's number it's one thirty eight. It's even worse than I thought. We only have one hundred and thirty eight. What kind of trash is that? Okay, that's horrible. Right now? How do people discover the Theology Central podcast on Spotify? You're ready? The number one way search? Most people are discovering your podcast through searches. So people are on Spotify and they're searching for theological biable something and they're finding this podcast. That's that's what why I'm trying to do. That's what I'm and guess what helps the algorithm picking us up. How does the algorithm pick us up? When Europe? When it's getting more engagement. The more people who engage this podcast on Spotify listening, downloading, searching, the more giving it the stars following it. All of that engagement gives Spotify a greater chance to push it out out when people are searching for certain topics. Second, now, this one caught me off guard. The homepage seven hundred and sixty four times people have found us on the homepage of Spotify. You hear my stomach growellings because I have yet to eat today. I'm starving, all right, So the homepage picked it up seven hundred and sixty four times.

24:22 That's a good thing. Now, from the library two hundred and sixty That means people listened from their save library. People have saved the podcast to their library two hundred and sixty times. That's that's pretty good. That's pretty good. All right. Then it breaks down, it breaks down all kinds. It says this, a significant portion of your listens come from direct search, meaning your podcast is being discovered by people actively looking for relevant topics. Consider optimizing your episode titles and descriptions with searchable keywords to maintain an increased visibility. So basically, AI is like, you got to get better at your titles. Come up with better titles, do better with your titles. I gotta come up with better titles. Okay.

25:10 Spotify Home engagement listens from the Spotify home feed indicate that some users are engaging passively with your content. You can improve this by leveraging I catching cover art and compelling episode descriptions. So I need better descriptions. I need better titles. I need better descriptions. Well, thank you. All right. It goes on to say here, there's like pages and pages here. Okay, here, it says Spotify's okay, I scrolled down. Spotify's algorithm recommends podcasts on the home screen based on a user's listening history and preference. So see the algorithm.

25:57 Those people finding me on their home feed is doing so because the algorithm picked up my podcast and said, hey, we think you would like this one. Hey, we think you would like this one. Well, the only way for the algorithm to keep doing that is more engagement. And again, this is not even about me. Whatever your favorite podcast is, I don't care you just name it. You name your favorite one whatever. Five minutes in church history uh Ligonier Ministry MacArthur Piper. I don't care whom it is, even people I may strongly disagree with. I don't care if it's a Presbyterian church. I don't care what it is, if it's if it's even any remotely more Bible based than some of the things currently on the chart. If you will engage it and listen to it, download it, of course, financially support him if you can, then there's a greater chance the algorithm picks it up, and there's a greater chance they get noticed. And then guess what, when people are looking for stuff on Spotify, there's a chance they will be directed towards something more biblically based than some thing that's a train wreck. To be nice, So it's something you can do, and it doesn't cost you a lot of money, So it doesn't I mean, unless you want to financially support one of the podcasts that we're mentioning now on our Spotify feed. Yes, there will be commercials because currently we still do advertisement on for the podcast feed. And you know, I'm still a

27:29 lot of discussion of getting rid of that, because there was a lot of discussion in twenty twenty four about how this was all going to work. So I may I probably will get rid of that, so you probably will see them go away, so you probably won't have to worry about that. If you do see them, just fast forward. Usually it's a minute and then the podcast will begin and yeah, there we go, there we go. So I just want you to know that the Theology Central podcast is available on the Spotify app. It's also available in the Serious XM app. It's also available on the and Or app. It's also available in the Deezer app. It's also available on Amazon Music. It's available in every podcasting app under the sun. Okay, So because you want to try to get to where the people are. The thing that's always been difficult for me to process is Spotify is the number one app, and we've never really broken through on the Spotify app. Now, when I did a little experiment called currently On was kind of a just an experiment to see if I could do a secular podcast, we went all the way up to number one on the Spotify podcasting app for all podcasts, not a specific category, all podcasts. I was number one. I ultimately got beaten out by Michelle Obama. Okay, which was a little frustrating, but I was beating out everyone at one point. Number one. That's insane that that ever happened.

28:58 I know, people don't even believe that. There was plenty of people who witnessed it and saw it. It lasted for I don't know forty eight seventy two hours. I don't know, it was maybe a week. And because at that point I was like what do I do? What do I do? What do I do? This was like a little this was a dare Someone dared me to do this. I was like dared, and I'm like, okay. And what happened is Taylor Swift was coming out with a song and she did. She released the video before the song actually was actually released. I did a review of the video, analyzing all the meaning of it, and then I reviewed the lyrics and boom, the thing blew up in some crazy like what is happening? How did we end up number one? It was crazy. I was like, it's like eighty thousand downloads. It was some crazy something.

29:42 But then I had to make a decision do I continue to pursue this or do I focus on theology. I should have pursued that because it would have been worth a whole lot more money, and I probably would have probably and I wouldn't have to deal with you know, create well, I'll probably stop to do with craziness. But yeah, not the Christian craziness. But there you go. I just wanted to talk about it. We are on Spotify there. If just find us on Spotify again, do a search. Look for Theology Central. It's the green background with the white circle the other one. Please if you want to subscribe to the other one, great, I mean that's the sermonaudio feed, and then just decide to download or stream or listen there and we'll see what happens. We tried this before we did. I don't think we had any movement at all. I think it was an exercise and futility.

30:30 And that's okay because I think most of you you don't care. I mean, come on, I understand you're you're sitting there like, who cares? Who cares? I look for something to listen to. I listen to it, and I don't care. I move on. It's it's it's disposable, it's it's replaceable. It doesn't mean anything to me. It's it's an episode. I go on to another episode. Do you realize there's millions upon millions upon millions of things that listen to you are not that important, And trust me, I very much understand that. But I also understand that there's a lot of people who will listen to things that are very theologically problematic, to say the least, and that's what people find when they search. Now, they may broadcast better than me, they have a bigger budget than me, they're better speaking it than me. But I think in many cases we do provide a I think a pretty good philological challenge to a lot of things that I think is beneficial. Now, by all means, if you guys want to team up and go support another podcast, go do it. Just pick one that's biblically minded, biblically based, so that people have a choice, not Catholicism, charismatic, seeker sensitive new evangelicalism. They have something else to choose from that's more biblically minded, exegetical, harmoneutical, philological, they have something else to choose from. Just all I'm saying is give them option five minutes in Church history is very much

32:01 one that should be supported and be on there. I mean, that's the one that I love I could probably pick out a number of them. So all right, thanks for listening. I just wanted to bring this to everyone's attention. We will be reviewing twenty eight nineteen Church. I'm sorry that I didn't catch on to that was Matthew twenty eight nineteen at the beginning, and we will review. We'll try to review some others of those and see what we can do. But hey, whether anybody likes this or not, I know we see the church, the church, the church, the church, the church. That's wonderful. Well, let me tell you the world is no longer looking to the church as an actual physical building for philological or spiritual answers.

32:46 They're looking to what their algorithm gives them. They're looking on TikTok, they're looking on YouTube, they're looking on Spotify. Now, I want them to listen to whatever they want. I want them to listen to anything on that top fifty list. I want them to have it and save it. But I just want them to have other options. And the only way for them to have other options this the algorithm has to be. It's a game with an algorithm. It's kind of a messed up game, but that's the way it works. So if there's a if you have a favorite broadcaster on sermon audio app, please contact that broadcaster and say I can't find you on Spotify. You can turn your broadcast into a podcast. You have the RSS feed, please do so, Please do so, and so yeah, all right, we'll see what other things we can do.

33:51 And typically what I do is I try this for a couple of weeks, pay close attention to it, monitor it, look at the chart, see what's happening, check the numbers, and then after a couple of weeks, I just move on to something else because I can't spend my life focusing on it. But I do I I, you know, keep up with podcasting charts because you'll get an idea where things are going philologically. It's very interesting how Catholicism is dominating right now. What does that say. Is there a return to Catholicism. I don't know. I know there's been a talk of a return, a turning to Greek Orthodoxy. Is it a turning to Catholicism all of a sudden, or just Catholics listen to more podcast I don't know.

34:32 It's a I haven't quite figured that went out yet, but that's a trend I noticed today is man father Mike Schmidts. He owns the podcasting world right now? How did Catholics dominate it? What's going on? Maybe people are sick and tired of the craziness in the Protestant world and they're like, you know what, forget this. Listen to a Catholic. At least they sound somewhat sane. Maybe I don't know. All right, thanks for listening, every one of a great day. Food. I am start literally starving, literally, so if you heard my stomach growling, I can't help it. The microphone is too good to it. Just but I am starving, so I need food. Thanks for listening. Go hey, go go download Spotify and just look around. Just look around at all the Christian podcasts. Forget me, just look around at all of them. Just look around. Just see what's going on on Spotify in the Christian world. Go go, go, do you don't even worry about theology Central, Go do that.

35:30 It'll be a fun adventure and you can you can see what is interesting, what's good, what's bad, what's bizarre, and you may find your next favorite podcast and that's all great. Go find it, all right, everyone, have a great day, God bliss,