Feb. 27, 2025

Should AI Write Sermons?

Should AI Write Sermons?

A discussion about AI and sermons

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A discussion about AI and sermons

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is

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the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central. So, which do

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you prefer? A sermon written by a human being or

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a sermon put together written by artificial intelligence? Which do

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you prefer? It's put together by a human being or

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it's completely entirely put together by artificial intelligence. Which do

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you prefer? Now? Based on some comments that I've seen

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already under a number of websites, people are like, absolutely not.

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If a pastor is using AI to write his sermons,

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he's basically disqualified from ministry. He's finished. He shouldn't be.

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It's ungodly, and so there's a lot of people who

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do not like it. But I'm somewhat baffled by why

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people for humans to put together their sermons in artificial intelligence,

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Because did you not hear the sermon review we did yesterday?

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Have you not heard the sermon reviews? These are sermons

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supposedly put together by humans, and every single time artificial

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intelligence can point out all the flaws and all the

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mistakes and the sermons put together by humans. Did you

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hear the last broadcast I did? Well, if you didn't,

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you're never going to hear it because I deleted it

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because it was a total train wreck. Why because a

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human being had an idea but I could not carry

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out the idea in a good way. So which do

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you prefer? Well, we're going to be talking about this.

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We've been talking about this all of twenty twenty five.

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And well, just about thirty minutes ago, someone sent me

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an email. There's nothing to the email other than a

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link right where there's two links. They sent me two links,

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and the first link I was like, oh wow, I

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got to check this out. But let's do this. Let's

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get the official greeting out of the way. Good afternoon everyone.

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It is Wednesday, February the twenty six, twenty twenty five.

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It is currently five pm Central time, and I am

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coming to you live from the Theology Central Studio located

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right here in West Texas. And well, I hope I

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hope this goes well. I hope this is beneficial. Like

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I said the last live broadcast, I just I deleted it.

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It was a train wreck. I did everything wrong there.

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I had an idea, but it fell apart. And that's

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because well, I'm a human being, and we make lots

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of mistakes and we don't always do things right. And

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one of the things that we have been talking about

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throughout this year is we've kind of been placing artificial

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intelligence versus sermons. I'm like, I'm taking sermons. I'm like, okay,

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Artificial intelligence, in many cases, predict what these sermons are

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going to do wrong, analyze what the sermons are going

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to do wrong, analyze and find all of the logical errors,

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hermeneutical errors, exegetical errors go. And in every single case,

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AI not only is it good at predicting the problems,

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it tears the problems apart. And so in everything that

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we've done, artificial intelligence has won every single time. So

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what I don't know, what do we do with that? Well,

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here's what happened. So I did a live broadcast. I

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get done, I'm very upset, I'm very frustrated, I give up.

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I'm like, I retire, I'm gonna move on. And then

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I get an email at four thirty four pm, so

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just a little while ago. I mean it was probably

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the email probably came while I was broadcasting. It's and

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here's the subject line, John Piper appalled by pastors using

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AI to write sermons. John Piper is appalled. He he

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can't believe that pastors would use AI to write sermons. Now,

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I'm I'm somewhat baffled here, because how many sermons have

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I heard that we're influenced and put together by the

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writings of John Piper. John Piper, you write books, you

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publish things. Pastors take your books, they take your sermons,

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and they structure their sermons off of it. So if

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you're appalled that pastors would use AI to write sermons,

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are you appalled that they use your content to write sermons? Well,

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then why do you publish books? Why did you post

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your sermons online? The most ridiculous thing. So already I'm

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already irritated. I'm already irritated. So I click on the link.

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The link takes me to an article to post it

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at the published today at the Christian Post. John Piper

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appalled by pastors using AI to write sermons. Now, typically

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I would go through the article. I'm going to just

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bypass the article because I know this is ironic. John

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Piper said this on his podcast, and let me say,

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I bet you that podcast is used by many pastors too,

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I don't know, write sermons because they listen to it.

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And they take the idea and they work with it. Now,

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he said, well, it's not the same thing. You you're

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just now trying to draw some distinction. Well, if you

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use my book, it's not the same thing as me

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writing the sermon. Well or or I don't know. I've

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I've looked at your books and listened to some sermons,

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and I just know they're very similar. But but okay,

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so let's let's let's see what he has to say.

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So we're just gonna go to listen to this. This

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is from ask Pastor John. It's a podcast. You can

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subscribe to it, and uh, basically, well, we're gonna hear

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what happens. I haven't listened to it yet. I just

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know that according to the news article, and according to

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the email sent to me, John Piper is appalled the

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pastors would use AI to write sermons. Yeah, ok, all right, right,

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all right, all right, now just remember how old is

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John Piper?

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How old is John Piper? Hang on, okay, how old.

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Is John? You know, if I can spell right, John

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Piper seventy nine years old. He's seventy nine year Please now,

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seventy nine years old. Well, here's what I think is

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going to happen. Those who are old are going to

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be appalled that pastors are using AI. It's an This

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is more of an I'm going to put this this

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is an age thing because logically the argument makes zero

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sense to me. But let's listen to what he said.

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Here we go, should AI? Should I use AI to

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help me write a sermon? I think? Is the full

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title here? All right, here's John Piper. Here we go.

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Welcome back to a new week. On this Monday, we

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returned to the topic of AI. We touched on it

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recently in APG eight, nineteen eighty five. John Piper on

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chat GBT and their pastor. John You explained that Christian

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hedonism offers a unique angle on AI, emphasizing that God

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is glorified when humans not only understand Him but also

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rejoice in Him from the heart, something AI, lacking spiritual

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affections and a supernatural heart, cannot replicate. Never, AI is

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fundamentally disconnected from God's intended purpose for our intelligence. Since then,

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you followed up with even more thoughts in your sin

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conference matter.

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Let me jump in and guess what AI also doesn't have.

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AI doesn't have, Oh yeah, a sinful nature. It doesn't

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have a nature. Right, So if you're going to say,

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well AI doesn't have this, well AI also doesn't have

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a sinful name, You're correct. AI may not have a

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philological loyalty, a philological bias. AI may be able to

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look at the text and just say, here's what the

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text says, here's what the text doesn't set based on history,

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based on context, and it's not going to look at

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it or be motivated or be influenced by its philological

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alliance to philological allegiance, theological background. So, if you're going

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to point out what AI, you know, well, AI can't

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do this. Well, there's a lot of good things because

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air is not human that it can do. It can

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do a lot of things that will Pastor seem incapable

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of doing when it comes to preaching, all.

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Right, message explaining why we never hear about artificial emotion? Interesting,

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I suppose there's still a lot to address here as

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you build out your thoughts on AI, Pastor, John, we're

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going to revisit the topic with two new angles raised

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by podcast listeners, a pastor and a college ministry leader.

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The first email is from an anonymous pastor. He asks

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this quote, Pastor John, Do you think it's okay to

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use AI platforms like Gemini and chat GBT to help

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draft a sermon, youth lesson, or Bible study as long

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as that review adjust and ensure it aligns with God's word.

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As long as you review adjust to ensure that it

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aligns with God's word. No, you mean you're going to

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review and adjust it to align with your philological interpretation

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of God's word. Let's not get this twisted. Let's not

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play some game when a pastor's like, hey, I'm going

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to use AI, but I'm going to review it to

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ensure that it aligns with God's word. No, no, no, no,

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You're going to review it to it aligns with your

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interpretation of God's word. Let's not play any games here.

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Whenever Christians say, well, that doesn't align with God's word, No,

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that doesn't align with your interpretation of God's word, because

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that person thinks it does align with God's word. Someone

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who holds the lordship salvation. They believe their interpretation of

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salvation aligns with God's word. Someone who rejects lordship salvation,

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they think their interpretation aligns with God's word. Someone who

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baptized babies thinks their interpretation aligns with God's word. Someone

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who doesn't baptized baby thinks their view aligns with God's word.

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Everyone thinks their view aligns with God's word. So nobody

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changes something to align with God's word. You change it

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to align with your interpretation of God's word. Because if

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everyone could just change everything to ensure it aligned with

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God's word, then we would all have the same interpretation.

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But since no one has the same interpretation, then all

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we're doing is making it aligned with our interpretation of it,

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because obviously no one knows what it actually says. And

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that's human beings. We've had our run, we've had our opportunity,

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we've had two thousand years to figure it out, and

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we still haven't figured it out. So don't give me

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this garbage. Oh no, no, I'm gonna I'm gonna check

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ai and make sure it aligns with God's word. You're

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just making sure it aligns with what you think the

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Word of God says. And that's the problem with human beings, okay,

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Because we think, and we bring in our bias, we

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bring in our prejudice, we bring in our previous understanding,

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and we mold and shape whenever pastors and teachers get

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to the word of God, we don't hand people the

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unadulterated word of God. We hand them something that we

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now have molded in shape, and we put it through

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our filter.

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End quote. The second email comes from a college ministry leader. Hello,

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Pastor John, thank you for this podcast and the ways

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it has blessed so many. My question is can I

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use AI to write my newsletter to ministry supporters. I

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provide real updates and true facts, but I find writing

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particularly frustrating. Well, a I would help me write newsletters

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more quickly and frequently. I worry it could feel misleading

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to my supporters. What are the potential dangers of pastors

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using AI for ministry tasks like sermon preparation and newsletter writing.

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Well, let's start with a definition. I got this straight

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off of Google another another artificial intelligence defining artificial intelligence.

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Artificial intelligence is technology that enables computers and machines to

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simulate human learning, comprehension, problem solving, decision making, creativity, and autonomy.

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Plus quote and what you just referred to Tony in

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the question is my message at seeing where I drew

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attention to the fact that missing from that definition, that

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list of things that it simulates is emotion. Feelings are

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not listed there.

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So I need a For AI to write a sermon,

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it has to have emotion. No, I don't need it

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to give me emotion. I needed to give me exegetical

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understanding of the text to ensure that I'm handling interpreting

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the text textually correct, culturally correct, historically. I'm trying to

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get accuracy. I don't need AI to give me emotion.

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I needed to give me intellect analysis. I needed to

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provide cultural context, language, literary context, whatever I'm looking for

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to understand the text. The fact is our emotion, in

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many cases is very detrimental. Emotion can be detrimental to intellect, right,

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can it not be? So I'm already perplexed that he's like,

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it doesn't have emotion a good thing. I don't need

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it to give me. It's emotional feeling about the text.

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I needed to give me a clear understanding of the

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text so that I can avoid all the problems humans

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make with the text.

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Why and I made a big deal out of that

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because the ultimate purpose of the universe is that God

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be glorified, and he is glorified, not merely by being

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rightly thought about, logically comprehended, but by rightly being enjoyed, admired, appreciated, valued.

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And God is most glorified when we are most satisfied

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in Him, which means no artificial intelligence will ever be

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able to worship.

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I don't need AI to worship. I need AI to

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help me ensure that I understand the text exegetically, harmoneutically, contextually.

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I don't need AI to worship. I don't need AI

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too feel I need a I to handle a text.

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It's the God's word is put in a written form right.

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It has to be understood through literary genre. It has

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to be understood through through grammatical construction. It has to

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be understood based off language, meaning of words, context sintext.

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I don't need worship. I don't need emotion. I need

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to understand that human beings have had two thousand years

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of emotion and supposed worship, and we've been slaughtering the

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word of God for two thousand years. You don't believe me,

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just go back and listen to the last sermon I reviewed.

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What kind of train wreck was that? Worship?

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Is not simply right thinking, which computers can do worship

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is right feeling about God? That's really crucial.

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Oh, that's interesting.

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Is worship right thinking about God or right feeling about God?

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Is it either?

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Or?

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If you have wrong thinking about God? Is your worship correct?

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Don't you have to worship Him in truth?

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I'm gonna do something.

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I'm gonna do something really, I'm gonna do something really

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bad here. Oh, John Piper may be appalled. I'm going

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to use AI. Is worship of God? Hang on? Right thinking.

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About God.

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Or right feeling about God? All right? Hang on, We're

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gonna wait here. Ok, here we go. I knew AI

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was gonna go this direction. All right. Worship of God

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involves both right thinking about God and right feelings, but

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the order and relationship between the two are are crucial.

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Right thinking, orthodoxy, right doctrine about God. Worship must be

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rooted in truth. Jesus says God is spirit and those

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who worship him must worship him in spirit and truth.

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This means our worship must be based on right understanding

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of who God is as revealed in scripture. Worship that

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is detached from truth becomes emotionalism or idolatry, where one

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worships a false conception of God. Romans twelve one through

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two connects worship to renewing the mind, emphasizing that worship

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is a response to God's revelation. So let's just get this.

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This is not an either or proper position. If you're

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going to worship God, it starts with right thinking, not

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right emotion. Right thinking. You've got to have the right God.

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You're got to believe the right things about God, or

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it just becomes mindless emotionalism. Now, what about the right feelings?

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Biblical worship is not just intellectual acknowledgment, but also involves

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affections like love, reverence, gratitude, in awe. The greatest commanditists

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to love the Lord that God with all your heart.

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The psalms are filled with expressions of deep emotion, joy, longing, sorrow,

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and I'll just make it very clear, we'll never love

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God the way Matthew twenty two thirty seven says, that's

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a law passage. Okay, but what is the relationship. Right

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thinking should lead to right affections. A true knowledge of

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God should stir the heart in a genuine worship. However,

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emotions not rooted in truth can lead to misguided worship.

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Worshiping an idea of God that isn't biblical. If someone

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claims to know God but has no love, reverence, or

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joy in him, their knowledge is merely intellectual. One without

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the other is incomplete. So the true worship is a

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combination of right thinking and right affection. It starts with

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knowing God rightly, then that should lead to right affection.

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You have to have both. Don't make this either or

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and still this has nothing to do with it because

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it doesn't matter to me if AI has right thinking

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or or. Well, it cares about right thinking, But what

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I'm trying to say is ultimately all I care about.

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Can AI analyze and give me a right understanding of

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the text? Can it analyze it grammatically, contextually, historically, exogetically, hermeneutically,

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you just philologically. But he's almost like, well, since AI

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can't do this, then AI can't be. But I'm going

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to pack that up because I'm hoping he's going to

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come in and say we need both. I'm hoping he's

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going to come in and say we need both. Right

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here we go.

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God be glorified, and he is glorified merely by being

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rightly thought about, logically comprehended, but by rightly being enjoyed, admired, appreciated, valued,

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and God is most glorified when we are most satisfied

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in Him, which means no artificial intelligence will ever be

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able to worship. Worship is not simply right thinking which

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computers can do worship is right feeling about God. That's

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really crucial unless we begin to think that artificial intelligence

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can take the place of human beings in accomplishing the

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divine purpose in the universe. It can't.

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No one is saying AI can accomplish God's divine purpose now,

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nobody is saying that.

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No.

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This is not about can AI worship God? Can AI

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glorify God? Can AI accomplish the divine purpose? That's not

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the question. Can AI write? Sir? I will argue AI

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write sermons better than people, And we've tested it now,

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over and over and over and over, and every single

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time AI has destroyed the sermons. It does better job

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and exegetical, it avoids the logical errors, the fallacy. I mean,

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come on, now, so so far he's not even answered

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the question. He's not even answered the question. He's just

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trying to explain. If you want to say, well, what

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can AI not do? AI cannot worship God. AI cannot

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accomplish the divine purpose and glorifying God. Okay, all right, now,

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I got no problem with that. What has that got

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to do with the question.

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The affections of the human heart are fundamentally of another

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nature than the logical thinking process of the human mind.

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We are not bothered. I'm not bothered anyway that a

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computer can simulate human logical reasoning. But we consider it

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ludicrous when a machine attempts to rejoice or do or

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be glad, or stand in awe or be amazed, or

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feel grief or fear. We know that these are the

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making of the human soul, so uniquely that they will

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not be replaced by machines. The very phrase artificial emotion

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is an oxymorn. So that was the point of the

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message at seeing, And I think that distinction between artificial

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intelligence and artificial emotion frees us from an overly fearful

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reaction to what AI can do and can't do.

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Okay, I'm still trying to follow his logic here, But okay,

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this is supposed to remove us not having being overly

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fearful because AI can't do these things. Okay, I got

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no problem with that I still don't know. I don't

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what does this have anything to do with whether it

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can write a sermon. I'm assuming there's going to be

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a bridge here, a transition where he links this all together.

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But he's running out of time because this is a

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very These podcast episodes are only like twelve minutes long,

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ten minutes long, so I'm hoping he gets to the point.

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What we have essentially in the form of artificial intelligence

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called chat GPT or others, but I'm focusing a chat GPT.

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That's what I'm most familiar with and have worked with most.

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What we have here is a powerful online assistant design

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by its own definition. If you type into chat GPT

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what are you, it'll tell you I am an assistant

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to quote to understand and generate human like text based

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on the input it receives. Users can ask questions. I'm

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still quoting. Users can ask questions, seek information, or engage

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in conversation, and chat GPT responds with relevant and coherent text.

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That's crucial.

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End quote. Now that's new. Google doesn't write essays or poems.

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Chat GPT does, so you can get a lot of

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information from Google. Ask you all kinds of questions, and

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get the answers you want. It won't write a poem

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for you, and chat GPT will, which means that chat

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GPT has at least these two distinct functions information and composition.

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You can, okay, I am glad he's drawing the distinction

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between Google and chat GPT, or Google and AI. That's good,

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But I am curious if you're gonna, in any way,

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shape or form, say you're appalled by people using AI

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to write sermons. You're telling me pastors never used Google,

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never use the internet, never search for things, never, never

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use a library, never used book bok, never used podcasts,

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never used other sermons. Okay, all right, Well, let's say

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if you draw some distinction y AI is he's a

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poll that they would use that, but he's got to

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be a poll that they would use everything else.

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And ask chat GPT to give you the symptoms of

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Parkinson's disease. For example, you can say, write me a

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one hundred word paragraph describing and it would just write

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a beautiful one hundred word paragraph describing the symptoms of

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Parkinson's disease and give you a list. And in that sense,

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chat GPT is simply a very sophisticated addition to other

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sources we regularly use to help us know what we

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needed to know and understand what we need to understand. Dictionaries, encyclopedias, articles, books,

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google searches, and so on. We've been doing this for

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a thousand years, getting help from other people to help

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us know what we need to know understand what we

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need to understand. That's just relatively old school if you

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chat GPT that way. What's new is that you can

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ask chat GPT to write a two thousand words sermon

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on the parable of the Prodigal Son in Luke fifteen.

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In fact, you can say you can tell GPT you

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can type in please write me a two thousand words

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sermon on the Prodigal Son from Luke fifteen in the

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style and language of theologian John Piper or John Calvin

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or Arcie Sproul, and you will get an astonishingly well

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written sermon in the style and language of the theologian

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that you ask about. Or you can ask GPT to

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write your monthly newsletter. Just give him a few facts

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and tell him to write it in X number of words,

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and he'll do it as well as you can do it.

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Probably now here's something for you to think about. When

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I saw what Tony you wanted me to talk about

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here with AI, I went to chat GP and here's

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what I typed in, Please write an eight hundred word

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answer in the theology and style of theologian John Piper

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to the question what are the dangers of a pastor?

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Using AI end quote? That was what I asked. Took

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him five seconds, and he produced an eight hundred and

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fifty seven word essay that was so good that if

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I were reading it right now, I don't think you,

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Tony or your listeners would know that I'm reading from

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chat GPT. It was amazing. So there was There was

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an introduction. Then there was point one the danger of

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disconnection from the divine and a quote from Second Corinthians

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two point number two. No, I think First Corinthians two

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point number two, the risk of impersonal ministry and a

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quote from John ten their Courting Scripture, because John Piper

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does it sort of thing right. Point number three, the

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challenge of theological integrity, a quote from Hebrews four point four,

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the peril of ethical compromise. Point five the threat of

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idolatry inefficiency, and a quote from someone twenty seven and

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a conclusion called a call for dessernment. I mean, it

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is excellent, unbelievable.

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Okay, yeah, it's excellent. It's unbelievable. I know it is.

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What AI can do is excellent. It's unbelievable. That's been

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the point I've been making all of twenty twenty five.

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So why are you appalled that someone would use an

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excellent tool that does things so great to help people

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better construct a proper teaching on the Word of God.

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And again, just know people have been using things forever.

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But this is gonna be hilarious because I'm going to

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use the same AI tool that analyze what he said.

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So it's gonna be it's gonna be kind of interesting

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here to see what happens. But let's let's let this

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play out.

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And if you and if you, if I had read

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that to you, yeah, as my own, it would have been.

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Wicked.

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This is what I want to do the folks to hear.

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Wicked.

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I'm using a strong word because I feel strongly about this.

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Now, if you mean it would be wicked because you

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would tell people that it was yours and not from AI.

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Now we're talking, But let me make it very clear.

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Pastors have been playing this game forever. They get up there,

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they preach a sermon as if it's theirs, but they're

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not telling everyone that A good portion of that sermon

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came from MacArthur's commentary, page eighty six from John Piper's book,

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page seventeen from Piper sermon from Charles Hadden Spurgeon from

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because they're always pulling from things now and so it's

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always like, well, as long as it's not word for word,

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then it's not really plagiarism. They're just being in flit

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by so how much. And there's always been this debate

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how much should a pastor say, well, hey, I put

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this sermon together this week, I was using these four commentaries,

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so I borrowed the outline from this one. Nobody really

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wants the pastor to stand there and offer a full,

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you know, detailed outline of which came from where, which

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came from what? Now. If he's reading directly from it,

462
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then people will say, well, okay. Typically the pastor will say,

463
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and i'm quoting now here, John MacArthur, I'm quoting now

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here this, or I'm quoting now. In many cases that

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gives you an indication Now sometimes though, you'll go look

466
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at the outline and everything you're like, that's straight for

467
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MacArthur's commentary. I mean, give me a break. I mean

468
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that that's like verbatim, Like I mean, it's clearly the outline.

469
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But if you just take the outline, but you're making

470
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all the points yourself, like there's all. But let's just

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make it clear. Pastors have been taking and not giving

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credit forever. All right, that's always been the case, always been,

473
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Because again do you go, all right, guys, before I preach,

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here on the slide, here are the five books I

475
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used this week, and a large portion of this was

476
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constructed and put together based on outlines and points made there. However,

477
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I've endeavored to make this mine. Now, if someone just

478
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writes a sermon from AI and it just makes it,

479
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just preaches it as if it's theirs, now we get

480
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into back to plagiarism. Now we can get into a discussion.

481
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It's not AI is not the fault there. It's not

482
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that it was You should be a polled that someone

483
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used AI. You should be a polled that someone basically

484
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took something and made it out to be their own.

485
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That's on the pastor that's not on AI. This goes to.

486
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The heart of God and the meaning of Christianity and

487
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the integrity of the Church and her ministers. Neither God

488
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nor his people speak in a way so as to

489
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bring about in the minds of other people thoughts that

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are not true about us or what we say, or

491
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feelings in them that are not appropriate about us. That is,

492
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we do not deceive. We are people of truth and transparency.

493
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I mean, I love that. Hey, we're supposed to be

494
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people of truth. But how many sermons have gotten utterly,

495
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completely fraudulent and factual things wrong in it. We've seen

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that countless times, and AI typically pulls that out, but

497
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I and points that out. But in this case, I

498
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do understand what you're saying. This is an issue of

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plagiarism more than it is an issue of AI. So

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it says that the news headline is that John Piper

501
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is appalled. Is that accurate? Is he appalled by AI

502
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or is he appalled by plagiarism? So let's see because

503
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maybe the headline was misleading, maybe maybe the headline was wrong.

504
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Let's see what happens.

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Here and honesty through and through or we are nothing.

506
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So answer no, don't have chat GPT write your newsletter.

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Don't do it unless you're going to put in clear

508
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letters at the top. This newsletter was created by chat GPT.

509
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That's honest, and your supporters won't like it, even the

510
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secular world without any of our Christian commitments, namely the

511
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Chicago Manual of Style. Right, you know what that is?

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It tells you how these footnotes and everything. The Chicago

513
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Manual of Style already has guidelines for how to cite

514
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chat GPT sources. When you're quoting from something that was

515
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created by chat GPT. The Chicago Manual of Style tells

516
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you how to give it credit. And if the world

517
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does that, oh my goodness, how much more should we

518
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be concerned to be honest through and through?

519
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Now? I completely agree there now to say that people

520
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don't like it. You get a newsletter written by a

521
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ministry and you're ticked off because it was made by AI.

522
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Get over your stink and self. If the newsletters justos

523
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to convey to you some facts and information and up

524
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and updates and you're med that AI put it together,

525
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what is your issue?

526
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Like?

527
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You just want to know that the facts are accurate

528
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and giving you information. Now, if AI is there trying

529
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to pretend that it has some emotion, then okay. But

530
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I mean if you're told I think that's crazy that

531
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people would not be happy. If I got a newsletter

532
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so this is created by AI, I'd be like, they're smart,

533
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:34.880
save themselves, a whole lot of time, a whole lot

534
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:38.119
of effort, and this is organized really good? All right? Great?

535
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He said, Well, what if someone stood up and said, hey,

536
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this sermon. Well, I did it on Sunday. I told

537
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everyone I was following AI to the I tried to

538
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follow it to the letter on Sunday so that we

539
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can finish Isaiah forty. I told everyone. Now, nobody in

540
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my church got mad. People online may get mad, But

541
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I mean, I don't really care because I've heard the

542
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people preach Isaiah forty and every sermon. We've heard human beings,

543
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but together or absolutely atrocious. AI at least handled Isaiah forty,

544
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I don't know, and actually handled the text. So I

545
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would put an I would rather hear an AI sermon

546
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than a human sermon. But so Piper is like, people

547
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would get mad, I don't. I man, maybe people seventy

548
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:23.320
and over will, maybe people fifty and over. I think

549
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younger people would be like, yeah, so you used AI

550
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to put it together. Great, it's a tool. And again,

551
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when it comes to sermons, how many times I mean

552
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I've heard literally sermons, I'm like, for crying. You read

553
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Piper's book, didn't you? You read Piper's book. Oh oh,

554
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oh you must have read MacArthur's book. Oh you must

555
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have read RC. Sprull, because you can tell that the

556
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sermon was almost like verbatim like influence. Do they sit

557
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there and say, well, I read this, I read No,

558
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you most pastors don't do that, And there's always that argument, well,

559
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:56.880
how do they have to stop every fifteen minutes ago

560
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while I was reading this, and well then it was this.

561
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Sometimes they'll give kind of a general statement, you know, hey,

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I would recommend this book, and then clearly then you

563
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can tell that the sermon was influenced by the book.

564
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But are they supposed to do that with chat GPT

565
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at every point? Now, I try my best to tell people.

566
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I try my best to hey, A I asked AI this,

567
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or I broke had a I break this down. I

568
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:25.480
try my very best to let everyone know. But all right,

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so so far he seems more appalled by pastors using

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AI and then putting it and then preaching it as

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if it's their own.

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And second, no, don't have chat GPT write the first

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draft of your sermon, which you then check, adjust and customized. Frankly,

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I'm appalled at the thought. Appalled. I know that resources

575
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and websites have existed forever to help pastors cut corners,

576
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create your outlines, provide illustrations, tell you how to do research,

577
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:15.039
and so on. That there's nothing new about this, and

578
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it's been appalling to me all the way along. For

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this reason, one of the qualifications for being an elder

580
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:27.039
pastor preacher in the Bible for Timothy three to two

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is the gift or the ability to teach deduct to costs.

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That means you must have the ability the gift to

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read a passage of scripture, understand the reality it deals with,

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feel the emotions it is meant to elicit, be able

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to explain it to others, clearly, illustrate and apply it

586
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for their edification. That's a gift you must have. It's

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your number one job if.

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You with all due respect if if if that's one

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of the qualifications to be in ministry, I will say

590
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most of the sermons we listen to. The pastors don't

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seem to demonstrate they have that gift because of how

592
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messed up the text is typically handled. That's what I

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would And do we even need to get into some

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of Piper's understanding about like what is it called final justification? Yeah? Okay,

595
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so where you were you able to read the text

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and understand it? Well? No, everyone reads the text and well,

597
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well see, we can get into all kinds of issues there.

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I don't think a pastor is demonstrating a lot that

599
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he doesn't have the the he's not apt to teach.

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I don't think a pastor is demonstrating he doesn't have

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the ability to teach or not apt to teach because

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he uses tools and resources. Because even Piper himself admitted

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people have been using tools and tools and resources forever

604
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and again Piper puts out and in fact, let me

605
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let me look here, let me look here.

606
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Okay, okay, okay, hey, I let me look see it.

607
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How many.

608
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Books and articles has Pastor.

609
00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:25.159
John Piper published? I'm trying to get a number here.

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As of twenty twenty three, Pastor John Piper has authored

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over seventy books. In twenty seventeen, the Collected Works of

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00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:38.480
John Piper was published, encompassing fifty of his books, hundreds

613
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:41.199
of articles, and various other writings up to twenty fifteen.

614
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:44.840
Since then, he has continued to produce additional works, contributing

615
00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:51.039
to his extensive bibliography. Please note over so over seventy books,

616
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:57.360
but hundreds of articles. Seventy books, hundreds of articles. So

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you publish all this stuff you want people to buy.

618
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I bet you pastors bought it. And guess what they did.

619
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They took what you wrote and they read it, and

620
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they read it and they looked it over, and then

621
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they modified, and then they shaped, and then they outlined

622
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some cases, basically taking your entire point, your entire idea,

623
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and using it. If you can publish all of that stuff,

624
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then benefit from the cell of those books and make

625
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the money off those books. And then people use your tools.

626
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But you are appalled that they would use AI. Now

627
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:33.760
you can try to draw some Oh there's a difference.

628
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You're trying to make a distinction without like, Oh, it's

629
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why because I don't know And you say, well, AI

630
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did the first draft. Well, if I'm going to the

631
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Piper book and I'm borrowing from the Piper book. Then

632
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the Piper Book made the first draft. If I go

633
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to a MacArthur book, if I go to a commentary,

634
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if I go to Calvin, if I go to if

635
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I go to Augustin, if I go to anybody, there's

636
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my first draft. Because that's the thing that's sparking the

637
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entire idea, and then I'm shaping it based off that.

638
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:05.920
That's the original source, that's the inspiration, that's where I'm

639
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going to be structuring it from. So it's the same

640
00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:12.400
stinking thing, except it takes me hours to look it

641
00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:14.880
up and read this and where AI can do it

642
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:18.639
in five seconds and do it better.

643
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So don't have it. You should not be a pastor.

644
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Let's use chat, GPT and others, other sources that are

645
00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:41.079
coming along for information, even for inspiration, just like you

646
00:41:41.239 --> 00:41:44.719
use commentaries and articles and books and songs and poetry,

647
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but don't use it for composition.

648
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He's trying to make that. You can be inspired by it,

649
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:54.840
but don't use it for composition. You think a pastor

650
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when he has a book here, he's not sitting there

651
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looking at that book and then structuring it, making the

652
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It's more. It's more than just oh, I read it

653
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and I was inspired. Now, sometimes that happens, right, sometimes

654
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where I've got hang on, lean over here, I got

655
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sort of the Lord newspapers. Sometimes I will I will

656
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see one of these and be, oh that I got

657
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an idea, and I will build an idea off it.

658
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A lot of times I will, I will be. I mean,

659
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you've heard me go through it. I based an entire

660
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study around it, because it's doing more than just inspiring.

661
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It's structuring how I'm going to approach it. It's structuring

662
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how I'm gonna look at it. It may it may

663
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:40.840
even provide an outline. Now the outline may be modified

664
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to change, so I may make in some cases I'm

665
00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:45.679
making the opposite point than what they're making. But it's

666
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:48.920
still helping in the overall structure. You can't say, well,

667
00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:51.599
you can be inspired by it, but it doesn't compose,

668
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:54.480
or it doesn't give me a break that the lines

669
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are so you're trying to draw this little thin line

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that's almost impossible not to blur the lines give me.

671
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And that's just ridiculous. Someone has put out so much

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material that has been used for people to compose sermons.

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Who knows how many times, right, and in fact, if

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if you okay, I'm gonna say, if you search.

675
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The internet, wouldn't hang on? Isn't it true that they're.

676
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Hang on?

677
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That there are hundreds, if not thousands of sermons that

678
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are put together based on pipers writings.

679
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All right, I'm gonna see what check. Yes, okay, this

680
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is what chat GPT says. Yes, it's true that there

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are hundreds, if not thousands of sermons that have been

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developed based on Pastor John Piper's writings. His extensive body

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of work, including over seventy books and numerous articles, has

684
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profoundly influenced pastors and theologians worldwide. Many preachers draw upon

685
00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:36.920
his insights for their own sermons preparations, integrating his theological

686
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:41.119
perspective into their messages. Additionally, platforms like Desiring God provide

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vast repository of his sermons and articles, further facilitating their

688
00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:50.400
dissemination and use and sermon development. And guess where he

689
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:59.039
gives me a link to Piper's own website. Hey, use

690
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it for inspiration? You're right, I'm sure when I go

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to when I go to, uh do if I go

692
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to Desiring Good dot com? Is it going to tell

693
00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:09.079
me Hey, guys, here's all my messages, but please please

694
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:13.639
be very careful not to use this the wrong way.

695
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:17.039
In fact, let me go here. Yeah, here's all of

696
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his messages. It's got classic messages, comforts messages, Bethlehem sermons,

697
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topic scripture series. I mean, if I'm like, oh, I'm

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going to be preaching on Hebrews, I know what I'll do.

699
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Oh he's got he's got one on Isaiah fifty five. Oh,

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00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:33.000
that could be interesting, all right, And so I can

701
00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:36.119
I give me a break. People people who like Piper

702
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:39.920
have They've built entire sermons series off of it. I

703
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have heard them myself, and they may give some brief

704
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mention of Piper or his book, but then they're not

705
00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:50.199
sitting there like this, this comes from page this, This

706
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:53.199
comes from page this, and then this structure in this outline.

707
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:55.719
They give me a break. They're not doing that, and

708
00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:58.400
don't tell me they're just they were just inspired. They

709
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were inspired and put the book down. No, no, no,

710
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they were inspired, and then they're like, ooh this, I'm

711
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gonna take this and I'm gonna build this. And it's

712
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all being built off the very structure in Pyprus books,

713
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which is the same thing people are doing with chat GPT,

714
00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:14.360
it is ridiculous for someone to have put that much

715
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:19.480
content out there. Then appalled that someone would use chat

716
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:23.440
GPT that that is utterly ridiculous.

717
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To me, unless you're gonna give credit for it. So

718
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if you if you're gonna, if you're gonna have chat

719
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:33.840
be GBT write your first draft and you're gonna tweak it,

720
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:40.440
then you better say to your people, chat GPT artificial

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intelligence has composed the Word of God for you this morning.

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Point.

723
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Chat GPT did not compose the word of God, unless

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you're gonna say a person sermon is the word of God. No,

725
00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:57.400
the word of God is the word of God. A

726
00:46:57.480 --> 00:47:01.360
pastor expounds what he thinks the word of God is saying.

727
00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:04.760
He's not proclaiming the word of God unless he's reading scripture.

728
00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:08.159
If you start equating a sermon with the actual proclamation

729
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:11.039
of God's word, then you're saying that sermon is an

730
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infallible which is ridiculous. And that's basically going back to

731
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:19.800
Roman Catholicism, And even Roman Catholicism would even not even

732
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:22.159
go that far because the pope is only infallible in

733
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the very specific situation. So even that is not even inaccurate. No,

734
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when I preach, I may say I'm preaching the word

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of God. Now I am teaching the word of God.

736
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I'm preaching the Word of God, but it is not

737
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the Word of God. Because the Word of God is scripture.

738
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It's not what I'm saying about it. What the Word

739
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of God is infallible and inspire. What I'm saying is

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not infallible, nor is it inspired.

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It is suggestion to cap your thoughts here. Thank you,

742
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:52.679
pastor John, and thanks for joining us today. From AI

743
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:55.920
to the ancient Letter of Romans. We're going to transition

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as John you call Paul's Letter to the Roman.

745
00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:02.599
Okay, so there has it. That's it. They cover it

746
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:04.679
in that amount of time. So guess what I did.

747
00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:11.239
I asked AI to analyze all of Piper's arguments. All right,

748
00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:16.239
here's what AI says. The main argument John Piper makes

749
00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:22.039
is that AI lacks emotion, spiritual affection, and authentic human feeling,

750
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:25.719
therefore it cannot fulfill divine purpose of sermon preparation or

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00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:29.480
ministry task. Piper argues that true worship and preaching depends

752
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on genuine human emotions towards God, something AI inherently lacks

753
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:39.239
Piper's view. Piper views AI as suitable for informational task

754
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:43.480
but inadequate for spiritual, emotional, or pastoral tasks such as

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sermon writing and newsletters due to the absence of genuine

756
00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:50.000
emotion or affections towards God. And again I will argue, No,

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00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:54.280
it doesn't need emotions. It doesn't need genuine affection for

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00:48:54.360 --> 00:48:57.039
God to be able to put together a sermon, because

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a sermon is simply the expounding, the explaining, the teaching

760
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:07.320
of what the text says in its historical and textual context.

761
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:11.159
It's I don't need any of those other things to

762
00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:15.760
be able to put together a sermon, all right, So

763
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:20.119
I already disagree. Here's what AI says. Here are AI

764
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:24.159
then breaks down what just happened? Here? Okay, here we go.

765
00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:27.920
AI went crazy there for a second. AI here, AI

766
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:32.840
gives me one, two, three, four, five, five flaws, and

767
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:35.960
Piper's arguments, this is AI itself, all right, So this

768
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:39.679
is funny AI Arguing with Piper about AI, it says

769
00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:46.400
number one misunderstanding AI is merely informational. Piper oversimplifies artificial

770
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:51.519
intelligence as purely informational, neglecting the tools, capability for composition, creativity,

771
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:55.679
and structuring ideas. AI doesn't need a motion to effectively

772
00:49:55.719 --> 00:50:00.440
assist in organizing thiological insight or structuring sermons. Clearly, that's

773
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:05.199
my whole point. AI does not need emotion to effectively

774
00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:09.400
assist in organizing theological insider structuring sermons. Clearly, it does

775
00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:13.199
not need human emotion. It does not need theological loyalty.

776
00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:15.840
What it needs is the ability to say, huh, what

777
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:17.880
are you going to preach on? I'm going to preach

778
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:21.599
on Isaiah chapter twelve. Go and say, here's what Isaiah

779
00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:23.440
twelve is. Here's what you're not to do with it,

780
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Here's how people misapply it, Here's don't avoid this logical error.

781
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:31.119
Here's literary structure, here's this, here's this, Here's that. It

782
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:33.639
doesn't need any of those things, Piper said. It needs

783
00:50:33.679 --> 00:50:35.840
to be able to accomplish that. And guess what will happen.

784
00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:40.039
Almost inevitably, what AI puts together for Isaiah twelve will

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be better than what any human puts together in Isaiah twelve.

786
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And we've proven that over and over and over and

787
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:51.760
over again. Look at that sermon that we reviewed yesterday

788
00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:54.800
on John two. That was a train wreck of epic proportions.

789
00:50:54.840 --> 00:51:01.719
AI was like, what is going on here? Number So,

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00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:04.840
the first thing John Piper misunderstands AI is merely an

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informational tool. It's now he mentions composition, but he keeps

792
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:10.880
reducing it to like you just get information from it.

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00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:16.000
Number two, confusion between sermon composition and genuine worship. Piper

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00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:21.239
conflates sermon prep structure and textual organization with genuine worship

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00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:25.599
or emotional authenticity. Preparing the text or logical structure of

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00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:31.360
a sermon is distinct from its emotional delivery or spiritual authenticity.

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00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:36.559
That's my whole point. Piper is conflating this sermon composition

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00:51:36.639 --> 00:51:41.440
and genuine worship. We're talking two separate things when it

799
00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:46.280
comes to sermon prep. We're talking structure. We're talking textual organization.

800
00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:51.840
That's different than genuine worship or emotional authenticity. Preparing the text.

801
00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:56.440
The textual or logical structure of a sermon is completely

802
00:51:56.480 --> 00:52:01.880
different from emotional delivery or spiritual authenticity. If AI puts

803
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:03.719
it together and I read over it and read over it,

804
00:52:03.800 --> 00:52:06.639
and I'm invested in I, I mean you've listened. You

805
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:10.280
go listen to all my sermons on Isaiah forty. AI

806
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:14.920
helped put almost all of them together, all verbatim. But

807
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:18.360
guess but I read the text over and over and over.

808
00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:20.360
I read what AI says over and over and over,

809
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:23.239
and I get emotionally invested in what's going on in

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00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:27.480
Isaiah forty? What are the people in Babylonian captivity? AI

811
00:52:27.559 --> 00:52:30.960
helping structure? It had nothing to do with my emotional

812
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:35.480
connection with the narrative and with the story. So you

813
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:37.760
can't just say, well, if AI put it together, it

814
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:39.719
would be the same thing as well. Wait a minute,

815
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:43.159
if you take this from this commentary, you take this

816
00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:46.599
from this commentary, Wait, where does that commentary possess the

817
00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:50.599
ability for genuine human emotion and to worship? No, it's

818
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:53.039
put together. In many cases, you know what commentaries are

819
00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:59.440
some third party randomly edits sermons. The pastor preached the sermon. Now,

820
00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:01.440
so when edit the sermons and they put it in

821
00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:04.440
a commentary and then sell it, it's just edited sermons

822
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:06.719
put in a commentary form so that someone makes a

823
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:16.800
lot of money. The third problem is assumption of complete replacement.

824
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:20.119
Piper implicitly assumes AI is being considered as a full

825
00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:23.440
replacement for the human preacher's thoughtfulness and emotional connection to

826
00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:28.000
God and reality. AI assistance doesn't mean replacing the human element.

827
00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:31.800
It simply serves as a supplementary tool to enhance sermon

828
00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:35.639
clarity and prove textual analysis or assist in clear communication

829
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:43.960
and maybe avoid hermeneutical errors. Number four false dichotomy between

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00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:48.760
intellectual and emotional components. Piper emphasizes emotion and affection while

831
00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:57.199
downplaying that solid doctrinal teaching relies on careful logic, structure

832
00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:01.280
and clarity. This is what AI does better than what

833
00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:06.079
human beings can do. Now that last part is me

834
00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:09.480
adding that in AI just says it could provide valuable assistance,

835
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:12.599
I will say AI does it better than humans. And

836
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:18.360
then number five idealistic view of human emotional authenticity. AI

837
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says Piper presumes human preachers inherently offer emotional authenticity in

838
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:26.840
every sermon or newsletter, overlooking the reality that pastors already

839
00:54:26.880 --> 00:54:31.960
rely extensively on external sources, commentaries, outlines, and even ghost writers.

840
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:37.039
AI therefore isn't uniquely and authentic, but rather another form

841
00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:42.000
of assistance. And whenever a pastor is up there preaching,

842
00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:45.039
you don't know how authentic the emotions are You don't,

843
00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:49.119
and AI is not the fault of that. It's the

844
00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:51.320
inherent nature of standing in front of people and have

845
00:54:51.400 --> 00:54:54.400
to present something which then it can slide into performance

846
00:54:54.760 --> 00:54:57.519
or you're just doing your job because how becomes a

847
00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:00.280
job that's always a difficult thing has nothing thing to

848
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:09.559
do with AI. Here's what chat GPT says. AI is

849
00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:12.440
not intended to replace the pastor's heart or genuine affection

850
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:15.000
towards God, but rather to assist in practical aspects of

851
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:20.400
sermon prep, such as drafting outlines, suggesting illustrative materials, historical context,

852
00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:25.239
textual insight, just as pastors rely on commentaries, dictionaries, or

853
00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:30.239
collaborative study. AI is a sophisticated tool, not a spiritual replacement.

854
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:34.280
The heart of pastoral ministry, indeed, is emotional authenticity, genuine

855
00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:36.760
faith and love for God, and others, qualities that AI

856
00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:39.519
does not possess. But the use of AI in ministry,

857
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:43.000
like preparing sermons or news letters need not undermine authenticity

858
00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:46.480
any more than using reference materials does. AI can enhance

859
00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:51.519
chair clarity, organization, and communication efficiency, freeing pastors to devote

860
00:55:51.519 --> 00:55:54.880
greater energy to the critical, spiritual and emotional aspects of ministry.

861
00:55:55.280 --> 00:56:00.920
Rather than dismiss AI outright, pastors should carefully discern how

862
00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:03.840
AI can aid rather than hinder, the spiritual and doctrial

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00:56:03.920 --> 00:56:07.440
integrity of their ministries and the critical factors. The critical

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00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:12.079
factor is responsible integration, ensuring pastoral heart, wisdom and authenticity

865
00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:15.800
remain central, with AI acting solely as a helpful servant

866
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:19.719
rather than a master. And then this is what AI

867
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:25.159
goes on to say. The moment the printing press was made,

868
00:56:26.079 --> 00:56:31.880
philological resources became widely available and pastors began using them

869
00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:36.039
to assist in sermon prep. From early Bible commentaries to

870
00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:44.039
sermon collectionsilological treatises to modern digital tools like logoss Bible software,

871
00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:49.440
pastors have long relied on external aids. Piper's argument seems

872
00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:52.760
to overlook this historical reality. If the use of AI

873
00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:56.239
is problematic because it doesn't have emotion or affection for God,

874
00:56:56.559 --> 00:56:59.039
then the same logic would apply to books, commentaries, and

875
00:56:59.039 --> 00:57:03.159
even word process None of these resources have emotions, yet

876
00:57:03.159 --> 00:57:06.280
they have been invaluable tools for sermon prep. What AI

877
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:10.880
does is to provide faster access to structured information, helping

878
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:14.800
with research, organization, and clarity. It doesn't remove the pastor's

879
00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:19.800
responsibility to bring heart wisdom and theilological discernment to the message.

880
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:23.679
It's just a modern extension of what pastors has all

881
00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:30.400
have always done, using available resources to better communicate God's word.

882
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:33.800
And guess what all of those resources we use, not

883
00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:36.599
only are this is what even makes it worse. We

884
00:57:36.679 --> 00:57:41.480
go find the resources that already agree with our presuppositions

885
00:57:41.599 --> 00:57:44.440
so that we find ourselves in a thiological echo chamber,

886
00:57:44.559 --> 00:57:46.960
so that we can ever be changed challenged, or we

887
00:57:46.960 --> 00:57:50.639
can ever change. AI is not beholden unless you tell

888
00:57:50.679 --> 00:57:54.639
it to be beholden too. A thiological system. And guess

889
00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:57.519
what I can review one hundreds I mean AI can

890
00:57:57.559 --> 00:58:04.599
analyze millions of different data points and information in seconds

891
00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:09.320
and then give me what I need. If I say AI,

892
00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:14.119
give me how has Isaiah forty one been interpreted throughout

893
00:58:14.199 --> 00:58:16.679
church history? Guess what AI and five seconds will say,

894
00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:19.199
This is how it was interpreted in this era. This

895
00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:21.239
is how it was interpreted in this era. This is

896
00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:23.239
how it was interpreted in this era. I would never

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00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:25.760
be able to do that on my own unless I

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00:58:25.800 --> 00:58:28.039
wanted to spend like a year trying to research it.

899
00:58:31.679 --> 00:58:35.199
I can say, AI, here's the I've listened to five sermons.

900
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:38.320
They presented this interpretation of Isaiah forty one. What are

901
00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:40.800
the problems with this? What are the hermoneutical problems, the

902
00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:43.719
textual problems, the cultural problem? Okay, well they got this wrong,

903
00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:45.920
this wrong, this wrong? Okay, all right, so I want

904
00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:50.800
to structure a sermon avoiding those problems. Okay, it's AI

905
00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:53.280
is not simple as I mean. Now, some people may

906
00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:55.000
use it this way, as simple as chuck, give me

907
00:58:55.039 --> 00:58:58.119
this and I'm done. Typically, AI is used, at least

908
00:58:58.119 --> 00:59:00.519
in my experience, Okay, give me the all right, Now

909
00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:02.320
let's work on Okay, what about this? What about that?

910
00:59:03.000 --> 00:59:05.039
All right, let's check this. Okay, how about this? How

911
00:59:05.039 --> 00:59:09.719
about it's a continuing conversation. It's not a Google search.

912
00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:15.840
It's this continuing conversation. It's this back and forth. It's

913
00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:20.400
this like working together and then whatever the finished product

914
00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:25.760
is almost inevitably is a large part AI. But your

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00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:29.800
part is greatly is. It's collaborative. Let's put it that way.

916
00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:33.440
It's a collaboration. I'm like, Okay, AI, here's what we're

917
00:59:33.480 --> 00:59:36.320
working on this this week, Isaiah forty one. Let's go.

918
00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:39.000
Where should we start? What should I be looking out for?

919
00:59:39.159 --> 00:59:41.480
What are my concerns, Like, hey, I can I can

920
00:59:41.519 --> 00:59:44.599
approach it one hundred different ways. My approach AI will

921
00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:47.079
give me something, I'll give it back and then this, this, this, this,

922
00:59:47.320 --> 00:59:49.880
and then sometimes what I'll do is, after like four

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00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:53.119
hours of conversation and you think I'm joking, four hours

924
00:59:53.119 --> 00:59:55.480
of back and forth, and I'll say, okay, Ai, based

925
00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:59.039
on everything we've discussed over these last four hours, now

926
00:59:59.119 --> 01:00:02.760
help me summer rise, outline and put this in some

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01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:07.440
form that I could utilize for teaching, for a podcast

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01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:12.960
episode or for preaching. Well, by that time of four hours,

929
01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:17.239
it's not no longer just AI's draft. It's it's me

930
01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:20.159
mixed all in with it because I've been offering this

931
01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:25.039
or challenging this or questioning this. So Piper is misunderstanding

932
01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:27.480
the way it could even be utilized to someone like

933
01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:29.039
in some ways, it sounds like he has a great

934
01:00:29.119 --> 01:00:32.320
understanding of it because he knows that he can get

935
01:00:32.320 --> 01:00:35.679
a sermon written or get a response in the style

936
01:00:35.719 --> 01:00:37.800
of John Piper, and it will be almost sounds just

937
01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:41.519
like John Piper. Okay, well, I agree with that. But

938
01:00:42.280 --> 01:00:45.920
typically what I don't ask when I work with AI

939
01:00:46.119 --> 01:00:48.679
on any text, I don't ask it to sound like pipercar.

940
01:00:48.679 --> 01:00:50.599
I don't want it to sound like anybody. I don't

941
01:00:50.639 --> 01:00:53.239
want it to be beholden to any theological system. I

942
01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:55.239
want it to deal with the text. All I care

943
01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:58.480
about is the text. Ai, I don't care about theology

944
01:00:59.039 --> 01:01:01.360
in this sense. I need you to help me understand

945
01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:03.920
the text. Now. Once we understand the text, then we'll

946
01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:06.239
see what theology flows from it. But I don't want

947
01:01:06.280 --> 01:01:08.559
you to write my theology into it. I don't want

948
01:01:08.599 --> 01:01:10.400
you to write it in my style. I don't want

949
01:01:10.440 --> 01:01:12.079
you to answer it according to the way you think

950
01:01:12.119 --> 01:01:13.960
I'm going to answer it. I want you to deal

951
01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:15.280
with the text, and I want you to tell me

952
01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:17.559
when I'm wrong, and I want you to be bold

953
01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:24.760
and blunt and correct me. So it's how the tool

954
01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:27.920
is used. But that's always been the case. You've got

955
01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:31.840
all kinds of tools out there. Many pastors come to

956
01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:34.280
the pulpit and you could tell and don't even tell

957
01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:37.679
me it's not true. I remember I was at Red Oak, Iowa.

958
01:01:38.360 --> 01:01:41.800
That's where I was Red Oak, Iowa. I was there

959
01:01:41.840 --> 01:01:44.880
for like a youth conference, youth rally kind of thing.

960
01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:47.360
I was like the youth director in charge of the

961
01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:50.800
youth at Twin Cities Baptist and Papilia, Nebraska. We took

962
01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:53.320
our teenagers to Red Oak, Iowa for the church there

963
01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:56.159
in Red Oak, and we did play games. I don't

964
01:01:56.159 --> 01:01:58.719
even remember what we did. Whatever we did, and it

965
01:01:58.760 --> 01:02:01.039
was a Saturday, Well, it was getting ready to be

966
01:02:01.079 --> 01:02:03.639
Saturday night where we're going to be heading back to

967
01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:08.559
well Bellevue, Nebraska, Papelia, Nebraska drop off all the teenagers. Well,

968
01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:10.199
the pastor was sitting in his study. He's like, man,

969
01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:11.960
I got to get my sermon ready for tomorrow. Now

970
01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:17.440
it's Saturday night. It's Saturday night. You know what he does,

971
01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:21.360
I don't have one. He reaches over, he grabs our

972
01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:26.360
Daily Bread devotional and he starts looking at it. Guess

973
01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:28.400
what he's going to do. He's going to use a

974
01:02:28.480 --> 01:02:32.280
devotional from our Daily Bread to help build and structure

975
01:02:32.360 --> 01:02:35.239
his sermon. I guess what. He wasn't going to tell

976
01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:45.199
anyone that he got it from our Daily Bread. Come

977
01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:47.519
on now, And I cannot tell you how many times

978
01:02:47.559 --> 01:02:52.320
I've listened to sermons going wait. That's literally page twenty seven.

979
01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:54.960
And for MacArthur's commentary, he's using the same outline that

980
01:02:55.559 --> 01:02:58.199
the MacArthur uses, I mean, it's the exact same outline,

981
01:02:58.280 --> 01:03:01.360
or it's this, or it's this, it's that. Now in

982
01:03:01.360 --> 01:03:03.719
many cases, even though I can tell where the structure

983
01:03:03.760 --> 01:03:05.719
is coming from, they still make it their own. So

984
01:03:05.800 --> 01:03:08.119
it doesn't bother me that much. But the point is,

985
01:03:08.440 --> 01:03:12.199
guess what built Guess that wasn't that The structure inspired

986
01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:15.920
the sermon. The structure built the sermons, So the commentary

987
01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:18.480
served as the first draft. And I guarantee you people

988
01:03:18.559 --> 01:03:22.000
have done that well. Even AI says thousands of times

989
01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:25.880
a minimum that pat people have used Piper's books to

990
01:03:25.960 --> 01:03:30.639
build and structure teaching and sermons. It's no different than

991
01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:34.960
artificial artificial intelligence, just does it better an artificial intelligence.

992
01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:37.800
Guess what won't be beholden if you do it in

993
01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:40.400
a Piper book or a MacArthur commentary. Guess what You're

994
01:03:40.440 --> 01:03:45.639
beholden to? Their theological understanding, their interpretation. AI is not

995
01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:48.679
going to be beholden to anyone's interpretation unless I tell

996
01:03:48.719 --> 01:03:51.480
it to limit itself only to this, and which I

997
01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:53.079
don't want it to do. I'm like, no, no, no,

998
01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:55.920
any if. Even if AI sometimes has asked me, do

999
01:03:55.960 --> 01:03:57.679
you only want me to look at it? From no,

1000
01:03:57.840 --> 01:04:00.599
don't look at it from just that theological perspective. I

1001
01:04:00.679 --> 01:04:04.880
want I leave the door open, leave the windows open,

1002
01:04:05.920 --> 01:04:11.159
be open sourced. Okay, do not limit it. I don't

1003
01:04:11.159 --> 01:04:13.199
care if it offends the reform people. Don't care if

1004
01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:16.599
it reforms offends the non reform people. We don't care

1005
01:04:16.639 --> 01:04:25.320
about who we offend. What we want to do is

1006
01:04:25.440 --> 01:04:29.960
understand this the text. Now. I do agree with Piper

1007
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:36.880
though on this. I will agree with him here. If

1008
01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:38.760
it's if you're just going to get up there a

1009
01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:41.519
I'm major entire sermon, you didn't spend any time with it,

1010
01:04:41.559 --> 01:04:43.760
and you're just going to basically preach what AI said,

1011
01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:46.440
then you've got to tell the people you didn't really

1012
01:04:46.480 --> 01:04:48.280
do all of that other work that I'm talking about,

1013
01:04:48.280 --> 01:04:49.880
where it kind of now is a mixture of you

1014
01:04:51.159 --> 01:04:53.599
and I explained that Sunday. Go listen to my first

1015
01:04:53.639 --> 01:04:57.400
sermon from Sunday. I tell the people like typically it's

1016
01:04:57.559 --> 01:05:00.079
it's a mixture of me with Ai, right. And a

1017
01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:02.320
lot of times, even if I have the notes from Ai,

1018
01:05:03.559 --> 01:05:06.480
I'm interjecting this and adding this, or I'm challenging this.

1019
01:05:06.719 --> 01:05:10.239
Sometimes I will present AI's concept as a hypothesis and

1020
01:05:10.280 --> 01:05:12.159
then we will challenge it whatever the case may be.

1021
01:05:12.440 --> 01:05:15.400
But on Sunday, I'm like, look, we've had so many

1022
01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:17.719
twists and turns in our study of Isaiah forty I'm

1023
01:05:17.719 --> 01:05:22.039
going to have AI help me stay on points so

1024
01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:25.360
we can finish. Even there, I was interjecting and adding

1025
01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:29.119
my own twist there, But I told people so, I

1026
01:05:29.159 --> 01:05:33.280
do believe there has to be some transparency. But again,

1027
01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:35.760
I don't feel like transparency has been there for all

1028
01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:39.639
the years I've been a Christian, because it's like, well,

1029
01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:42.320
it's not full plagiarism. I didn't just take the whole sermon.

1030
01:05:42.599 --> 01:05:44.599
I took it and made it mine. And most people

1031
01:05:44.599 --> 01:05:46.199
are like, well, if you take it and make it yours,

1032
01:05:47.159 --> 01:05:50.159
I mean, come on, it's yours, then it's okay. You

1033
01:05:50.199 --> 01:05:52.079
don't have to explain all of that. Well, then why

1034
01:05:52.119 --> 01:05:54.719
is it wrong to have AI put your first draft

1035
01:05:54.760 --> 01:06:10.760
together and then you make it yours like and again,

1036
01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:13.119
the issue wouldn't be AI. It would be us being

1037
01:06:14.239 --> 01:06:19.239
open and honest, right, it would be us. You know,

1038
01:06:20.239 --> 01:06:21.719
where is where's the text?

1039
01:06:21.840 --> 01:06:22.239
Hang on?

1040
01:06:23.199 --> 01:06:27.280
I think I have it right here? Hang on, let

1041
01:06:27.320 --> 01:06:31.400
me see here? Yeah, put away lying Ephusians four to

1042
01:06:31.440 --> 01:06:33.559
twenty five put away lying speak every man the truth

1043
01:06:33.599 --> 01:06:36.199
with his neighbor, for members of one another. If it

1044
01:06:36.239 --> 01:06:38.519
comes down to plagiarism, then we can have that discussion.

1045
01:06:38.519 --> 01:06:41.400
But how many false things have been said in sermons?

1046
01:06:41.599 --> 01:06:47.639
I mean, yeah, all right, we'll stop there. John Piper

1047
01:06:47.679 --> 01:06:51.960
is appalled that people would have AI write a sermon.

1048
01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:57.599
I'm appalled that people don't use AI writing a sermon.

1049
01:06:58.440 --> 01:07:02.800
I am. I'm appalled because humans have We've had two

1050
01:07:02.840 --> 01:07:04.920
thousand years, guys. We gave it a good run. We tried.

1051
01:07:05.320 --> 01:07:07.719
After two thousand years, where have humans come to? Let

1052
01:07:07.719 --> 01:07:11.920
me see? We don't agree on literally anything. We don't

1053
01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:15.039
agree on any interpretation. We don't agree on any doctrine.

1054
01:07:15.079 --> 01:07:17.519
We don't agree theologically. We don't even agree on how

1055
01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:19.840
the church should be structured. We don't agree on baptism,

1056
01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:21.960
we don't agree on the Lord's Supper. We don't agree

1057
01:07:21.960 --> 01:07:24.840
on repentance, we don't agree on salvation. It's just a

1058
01:07:24.880 --> 01:07:29.119
total train run. We've had two thousand years of humans trying.

1059
01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:31.880
All right, we have a comment This commentary says this,

1060
01:07:31.880 --> 01:07:35.400
This commentary says this, this. I remember I pointed that

1061
01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:37.760
out when we were teaching through revelation. Many years ago

1062
01:07:37.960 --> 01:07:40.320
that there was a verse in Revelation, and there were

1063
01:07:40.360 --> 01:07:45.880
like I think thirty five commentaries that offered fifty different

1064
01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:49.599
interpretations of like one verse in the Book of Revelation.

1065
01:07:49.679 --> 01:07:54.239
I'm like, for corst, forget it. We've we had a

1066
01:07:54.280 --> 01:07:58.360
good run, we gave it our best. We've failed. Now

1067
01:07:58.400 --> 01:08:00.960
let's let someone else take over. You step up to

1068
01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:03.880
the plate. Let's see what you can do. Because I

1069
01:08:03.920 --> 01:08:06.360
listened to humans put together sermons in their train wrecks,

1070
01:08:06.360 --> 01:08:10.599
their sermons, including my own, AI can say, whoa, whoa wa,

1071
01:08:10.639 --> 01:08:15.039
what's going on here? Just like AI the sermon that

1072
01:08:15.079 --> 01:08:19.000
we reviewed yesterday, that pastor published another sermon on the

1073
01:08:19.039 --> 01:08:24.319
same passage John two, and AI tore that sermon apart.

1074
01:08:24.399 --> 01:08:26.920
It says the second sermon is worse than the first sermon,

1075
01:08:27.079 --> 01:08:32.279
and that it's riddled with exegetical, hermoneutical, logical, and factual errors.

1076
01:08:34.039 --> 01:08:36.800
It's just like it even put a little red flag

1077
01:08:37.239 --> 01:08:40.279
on the screen saying this this thing is a mess.

1078
01:08:40.359 --> 01:08:42.960
It told me, don't even waste my time reviewing it.

1079
01:08:43.079 --> 01:08:47.159
AI literally says this offers nothing of philological substance. It

1080
01:08:47.279 --> 01:08:53.600
is just I mean, AI tore it apart. So the

1081
01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:56.680
human put it together and is a mess. So if

1082
01:08:56.720 --> 01:09:01.000
you're going to criticize artificial intelligence, now what he would

1083
01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:03.880
say is, well, those pastors weren't actually qualified to be

1084
01:09:03.920 --> 01:09:06.039
ministers and shouldn't be ministers. Okay, well now we're going

1085
01:09:06.119 --> 01:09:08.960
to start what every sermon we disagree with, we eliminate

1086
01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:12.199
them from ministry. I mean that just that's not a solution.

1087
01:09:12.600 --> 01:09:14.479
But hey, there is a solution if we have a

1088
01:09:14.520 --> 01:09:16.960
tool that maybe fix a lot of our hermoneutical and

1089
01:09:16.960 --> 01:09:20.960
exegetical errors, and maybe maybe we decide that instead of

1090
01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:24.720
approaching the text from our philological tradition, we approach the

1091
01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:28.359
text and see what theological tradition it leads us to.

1092
01:09:31.199 --> 01:09:35.199
All right, well that was fun. Thanks for listening. Everyone,

1093
01:09:35.239 --> 01:09:41.439
have a good evening. Yeah I got something accomplished. I

1094
01:09:41.439 --> 01:09:43.800
feel much better. For those who don't know, I did

1095
01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:45.920
a live broadcast and went thirty three minutes and I

1096
01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:48.680
deleted it because it was an absolute train wreck. You know,

1097
01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:52.039
it was an absolute train wreck. Ah, yeah, because I'm

1098
01:09:52.039 --> 01:09:56.640
a human being. But to be fair, I did try

1099
01:09:56.640 --> 01:10:00.800
to use AI and going over there, but yeah, it

1100
01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:03.319
was still a disaster. It wasn't AI's fault, it was

1101
01:10:03.319 --> 01:10:06.239
my fault. In many cases many of the problems. It's

1102
01:10:06.239 --> 01:10:08.800
not AI is a tool. The problem is how we

1103
01:10:08.880 --> 01:10:12.039
use the tool. It's always been the case. It's always

1104
01:10:12.079 --> 01:10:14.880
been the case. And just make sure if you're upset

1105
01:10:14.920 --> 01:10:18.840
with AI, I would be more upset with all of

1106
01:10:18.880 --> 01:10:22.920
the subscription services that pastors use, where it gives them

1107
01:10:22.960 --> 01:10:26.239
the full sermon, gives them the illustration, gives them the artwork.

1108
01:10:26.239 --> 01:10:29.880
Remember we did that. We we bought, we bought remember

1109
01:10:29.880 --> 01:10:32.399
one of those sermons in a box basically, and we

1110
01:10:32.479 --> 01:10:36.319
and then we listened to sermons that literally preached the

1111
01:10:36.359 --> 01:10:39.000
sermon verbatim as they bought it, and they didn't tell

1112
01:10:39.039 --> 01:10:45.920
anyone that it was a bought sermon. So I got

1113
01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:48.760
more issues with that. AI would do better than those

1114
01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:51.760
those horrible sermons that you purchase in some of these places,

1115
01:10:51.920 --> 01:10:54.199
and some of those places are using AI though you

1116
01:10:54.239 --> 01:10:57.199
can tell. So I mean, yeah, well, I mean so

1117
01:10:57.319 --> 01:11:01.560
many issues. But what have we been dimaged? Everything's changing

1118
01:11:01.640 --> 01:11:03.840
and Piper may be appalled by it. There's going to

1119
01:11:03.880 --> 01:11:06.239
be older people like this is just horrible. You can

1120
01:11:06.279 --> 01:11:12.119
say that I'm sorry, there's no going back. Maybe not today,

1121
01:11:13.079 --> 01:11:18.640
I say within five years, I think within five within

1122
01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:24.359
five years, finding a sermon that was not somehow put together,

1123
01:11:24.560 --> 01:11:29.560
structured something influenced by AI is going to be almost impossible.

1124
01:11:29.640 --> 01:11:31.800
Other than the older pastors who are just holding out

1125
01:11:31.880 --> 01:11:33.840
just to make some point, they'll and they'll yell and

1126
01:11:33.840 --> 01:11:36.560
scream and make a point about it like they're proving something.

1127
01:11:36.960 --> 01:11:40.399
But I think within five years pastors may not say anything,

1128
01:11:40.439 --> 01:11:44.079
but they're utilizing it. They're utilizing it, and even if

1129
01:11:44.079 --> 01:11:47.279
they're not. Well, I didn't use chat GPT if the

1130
01:11:47.319 --> 01:11:50.359
Bible Memory app for crying out loud. If I take

1131
01:11:50.359 --> 01:11:53.039
the Bible Memory app and look up a passage, if

1132
01:11:53.039 --> 01:11:56.159
I pay for the AI feature, then I just click

1133
01:11:56.199 --> 01:12:00.159
on the verse boom complete breakdown of the passage which

1134
01:12:00.840 --> 01:12:04.359
breaks it completely down, and overview summary and then I

1135
01:12:04.399 --> 01:12:06.920
can say go in depth and it will. You're gonna

1136
01:12:06.920 --> 01:12:09.800
tell me pastors are not using give me a break.

1137
01:12:10.279 --> 01:12:13.760
Pastors are gonna be pastors not gonna buy commentaries anymore.

1138
01:12:14.800 --> 01:12:17.520
They're not gonna buy reference tools. They're gonna be using

1139
01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:21.199
AI somehow, shape or form. AI is gonna be. Ever,

1140
01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:23.640
I think ninety nine percent of sermons are gonna be

1141
01:12:23.840 --> 01:12:27.680
have been touched and help being constructed by the help

1142
01:12:27.720 --> 01:12:30.800
of AI. Within five years. I think I think I

1143
01:12:30.840 --> 01:12:32.760
am right. You can tell me if you think I'm wrong.

1144
01:12:32.920 --> 01:12:34.880
All right, thanks for listening or wee have a great evening.

1145
01:12:34.960 --> 01:12:35.479
God bless