Sermons 3.0 App

0:02 Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central. Good afternoon everyone. It is Monday, February seventeenth, twenty twenty five. It is currently three pm Central Time, and I am coming to you live from the Theology Central studio located right here in Abilene, Texas. Now, I know it seems like a long, long, long long time ago in a galaxy far far far far away, but it was really well, it was just twenty twenty four. I know that seems like forever ago.

0:43 But if you remember twenty twenty four, do you remember twenty two? You don't remember anything about twenty twenty four. I don't blame you, I understand, but if you can try really hard. In twenty twenty four, this very podcast, I spent the entire year trying to get you to go to the Apple App Store or the Google Play Store and download the Sermons two point oh app. I tried everything in my power to get you to download that app over and over and over download the sermon's two point oh app. We even had what we called the Sermons two point oh app sermon Challenge. I told everyone to buy a notebook right and then listen to a sermon, one sermon per day random. Just choose a random sermon from the Sermon's two point oh app. And then I wanted you to then just write down the name of the sermon, who the church or the broadcaster, and then just write a one sentence summary about the sermon.

1:37 So by the end of twenty twenty four, you would have one sermon for every single day of the year. We did a lot of different things trying to encourage it, challenging it, trying to make it interesting, trying to make it creative. Get the Sermon's two point oh app and listen to sermons, because it's this amazing resource where between five six thousand sermons are added every single week. You could spend your life just listening to sermons using that app, and you would never even get anywhere close to exploring all of the content that is there. I did everything in our power to try to get people to download the app and use it. Now, if I look at some statistics, if I look at some statistics that I have available for me, all right, I don't have numbers for sermon audio in general, but if I go to my sermon stats, this will just give you. It is crazy from what I can tell, And if I go back and look at every single month, it's the same way.

2:35 Even in months where we have thirty thousand downloads, in months where we have twenty thousand. It doesn't matter if it's twenty thousand, thirty thousand, forty thousand, doesn't matter if it's just a few thousand. Whatever our numbers are. For our downloads and streams, ninety percent, probably ninety five percent of them do not come from the app. They come from I guess, the website. It appears that the audience for the sermon audio audience, if we call it that, they don't use the mobile app. They don't use the sermon's two point oh app. They use the website, which just is so weird to me, Like, why are you using the website? It's twenty twenty five. Why wouldn't you be using an app. Maybe people don't have a phone or they I don't get it, but they don't use the app. That's fine. You're using the website, that's great, that's awesome. Some of you are still using the old website, which I don't even have any clue what you're doing with that. Okay, that is even there's a broadcaster. Every time he constantly on his video, he'll pull up the Sermon Audio website. I'm like, why, why is he using the website that went away I don't know, seventy five years ago. It's really weird. The audience seems very resistant.

3:54 Is that a good word. We're not going to use the app, We're not going to use the new website. We are going to stay in the year nineteen. I don't know ninety eight, I don't know what year it is. Okay, but for those of you, and so I would challenge you, for those who haven't open up the Apple App Store or the Google Play Store and download the Sermons two point zero app, please do that right now. Okay, please do that now. The reason I'm returning to this discussion, the reason I'm mentioning this is because I don't know when. I don't know when, but coming soon, I think we may be getting a new app. Now. If you'll go to sermon audio dot com, this is where you need to go to the website. If you go to sermon audio dot com and you go to news the newstab, and when you get to the newstab, look for release notes and you'll see release notes February twenty twenty five, and you will read this. This was published on February the fourteenth, twenty twenty five, Valentine's Day. So you were running out having romantic dinner and looking into the eyes of your spouse or whatever you were doing. This was released, so I got to catch you all up. For those of you who were celebrating Valentine's Day all weekend, okay, for everyone else who was off doing that, here's what was happening. This was published again on February the fourteenth, twenty twenty five. Breath taking amount of work accomplished in

5:29 are this past week. Number one new sermon manager launched. That has no impact on you. It doesn't matter to you. That's for us who are broadcasters, right. And I remember when it was launched because I was trying to upload something. I'm like, what just happened? What everything just changed? I figured it out within a couple of minutes, okay, but for a minute I was like, wait, what would happen? And of course anytime anything changes, there's that initial reaction. Well, I liked it the way it was, but typically if you'll spend a few minutes with something. A lot of times you'll see that the change was actually better. I know it's hard. I remember when Serious XM and they released their new app. Everybody's like, ah, what's wrong. I can't find deep tracks? What's wrong? And we're all wanting and complaining about it. Just everyone calmed down. So but for a minute, I was like, what how do I upload the sermon? I'm like I and so then I just looked around, took a few minutes. Now now I'm and now I'm pretty I'm pretty good with it right now.

6:27 And you know, I mean, obviously I've been uploading, so everything was good. Now. It stopped working the other day for about forty five minutes, so that was like, I want to upload my content. But they got it fixed and everything was working. So that doesn't really bother you. You don't care what it looks like as long as the stuff is uploaded. But the second thing got my attention. Sermons three point zero app nearing release candidate, so that means it's getting close to being I guess what they'll do is I think that means they release it to the Google Play Store, the Apple App Store. I think this is what it means. And then they have to wait for approval then it will be released, so I don't know how quickly it may. You know, I'm hoping.

7:13 I mean I want it now, right, I want to see it now. I mean, come on, hey, guys, use me for the beta tester. Why why not? I mean, I've been promoting your app like crazy for over a year. Okay, use me for the beta testing. Come on, come on? All right, But so we're gonna get a new one. I don't know when. I don't know when, but it is coming now. The other things they mentioned is the Vault is taking on webcasting load probably doesn't have any impact on any of us. And more tutor learned videos released. So they're gonna release videos giving tutorials and how to use things maybe now. So far, I think the tutorials I've seen is mainly for the broadcasters. Maybe maybe there's some tutorials for the users. I don't know. I'd have to go look. And it says the News Sermon Manager is an important stepping stone to the ultimate goal of global sermons. We're in a hard hat zone. Appreciate your patience. Now, my understanding of the global sermons, my understanding the way this is going to work is basically using artificial intelligence.

8:17 It's going to be able to take anything, any episode I upload, any message I teach, and then utilizing artificial intelligence, will make that message available and multiple languages and a natural sounding voice. So then my message will be heard in Spanish or in Russian or whatever languages that will be available, and so anyone from around the world will be able to hear what I have to say in their language and I don't have to learn the language. That is an amazing, awesome tool. I can't wait to see that nearing its completion. And I don't know how that's going to work and everything about it, but that's pretty awesome. So I'm again for me, I'm focused on the sermons three point oh app, the sermons three point oh app, and I continue to promote it. Now. I know what some of you may be thinking, but you have reviewed who knows how many sermons from the sermons from the sermon's two point oh app, and of course there'll be the same sermons available in the sermons three point oh app. And you have well you've not always been happy with what you've heard. No, I haven't, and that has nothing to do with the sermons two point oh app or the sermon audio platform. It just has more to do with I tend to find myself on the outside looking in. There goes mainstream Christianity, and I'm on the outside. I'm the voice of dissent. I'm the alternative voice. But I think that's okay because to me one,

9:49 it gives the listener the chance to hear what is pretty much. I mean, most of the sermons kind of fit in with what everyone else says. I think it's good to have me offer a counterpoint, and when I do our review, you get to hear the original point, my counterpoint, and then you get to decide. I think that that's beneficial. But let me make it very clear, all right now, Sometimes I don't sound like this. I always try to. I kind of wear my emotions, you know, on my sleeve, so you always kind of hear when I'm just discouraged, depressed, despond It frustrated because I can get that way listening to sermons. But at the same time, I think it should be clear to everyone no matter how good the sermon is, no matter how bad the sermon is, I always take something from it and try to turn it into something positive. Remember Saw eighty three.

10:36 Those sermons were atrocious of what they were doing in Saw eighty three. But that turned into I don't know an entire summer of study. All that we're doing on Isaiah forty through Isaiah fifty five, it's all motivated and influenced and inspired by bad sermons on Isaiah forty through fifty five. It doesn't matter if it's a good sermon, if it's a bad sermon, if you'll take the sermon's two point oh, app listen and then actually do work, question it, think about it, study it, research it, look at this, look at that, look at that. Then that bad sermon may actually lead you into multiple hours of study, where a good sermon may you may just hear it and move on. Sometimes it's the bad sermons that are better.

11:20 And of course, when I say bad or good, that's from my theological perspective. I mean, let's just remember and Christianity, everyone thinks their sermons are good, everyone thinks their sermons are best, and everyone thinks their theology is right. That's another maddening thing. So even though I have my disagreement, I still like, I mean, I open up the sermons two point oh app countless times a day. If I wake up in the middle of the night, many cases, I will open it up and just hit play on whatever I stumble upon, and it always gives me something. It's I just it's this amazing resource. Whether you agree or disagree with it, it's hard to find any platform.

12:04 We're between five to six thousand sermons, Bible studies, devotional messages, cultural commentary. It's being added basically around the clock. I mean you could sit there and go to the discover tab and new sermons and they're just new, constantly, new things, new things, new things, new things, new things. That's hard. I mean now, I do find it difficult sometimes to discover the old content because so much new content. I wish they had some better discovery tools, but we'll talk about that in just a minute. So I don't know when it's happ coming. I don't know when now. The best thing you can do now is to go download the sermons two point oh app and then be checking for updates, because then the sermon's two point oh app will turn into the sermons three point oh app and you'll already be ready to go. So I wish we could increase the mobile plays. I don't know what Sermonaudio itself experiences, but I think they would agree that probably most people are not using the mobile app. I don't.

13:02 That just seems so weird to me. Why not? But okay, So here's what I want to do. I'm gonna express some of the things I'm hoping to see in the sermon's three point Oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna give you some things I'm hoping to see. I'm sure these are some things I'm hoping to see. Number one, what I'm absolutely hoping to see. Well, I don't know if these are in order of importance, but I'm just gonna go to the top of my head. One of the things I want to see is them change this limit they have on how many broadcasters you can follow right now, it's like thirty two, thirty four. That is the weird that that to me is bizarre. Look, why is there a limit? Like on any podcasting app that I get anywhere.

13:46 It doesn't matter if I'm paying for it or if it's free. You can follow and subscribe to as many podcasts as you want. I mean, I mean some of my podcast apps, I probably subscribe and follow between four to five hundred different podcasts, and that's not even an exaggeration. Right. Some of them were hourly news updates like every hour right, MPR. Now, I can go ABC News ABC. That one's always messed up. It never updates, the the one when it should. Twenty four to seven news from NBC, CBS, I can go all Associated Press, I can go on Al Jazeera World Today from Canada BBC. I mean all of them. I just I subscribe to so many different things. I've never had one going Sorry, you follow too many things, never never, So it's weird that you get to like thirty two or thirty four and it's like, sorry, you've overreached your limit, so go delete someone you're following. Well, first, as a broadcaster who pays sixty dollars a month, I want the people using the app to have an unlimited amount of things they can follow, because I want to be able to follow me they go to their feed tab. Right when they go to the feed tab, I want there's a high probability they're gonna see my content, but they're not gonna see my content and their feedtab. If they can't follow me, I may be their fiftieth favorite broadcaster, and they're like, well, don't have room for you. If they don't see your content, they don't listen to your content.

15:21 Come on, guys, help me out. Okay, I want people. And I know what they may say, well, most people will never follow that many broadcasters. Well okay, well then then uh let them the most broadcasters don't are the most people I can't worry about. I want to find those few people who will listen to multiple broadcasters, right, I mean, come on, I mean the most. If the most don't follow that many, then there's a chance they don't follow me at all. But maybe they would, so I hope they fix that, and and it'll be I don't know. You say, what should the limit be? If you're gonna put a limit, let's go with one hundred. Let's go with one hundred, right, I mean, if you're gonna put a limit, I would really like to push it to two hundred, really really, I mean I would, but at least a hundred, you know, if you really have to, can we at least get fifty? How about sixty?

16:14 Maybe seventy? Can we go with eighty? Anything more than thirty two? And it's some weird number like thirty two thirty four, Like what, it's not thirty five, it's not thirty, it's not forty. It's like, what is It's just crazy? So I know that maybe a big undertaking, but for crying, every podcasting app in the world allows for that. So I hope they I hope they fixed that. I didn't even know that there was a possibility of placing a limit. I'll never forget when I was like, what is going on? I can't add someone else? Well, sorry you gotta go. Sorry, sorry you got to go. And guess what the ones who go unless they show up in the new sermons tab, I'm probably not gonna see their content. Probably No, it's out of sight, out of mind. What do I I go to my feed tab, like I'm gonna open up the sermon's two point oh app right now, gonna open up the sermon's two point oh app right now? Okay, hang on, I'm gonna I'm gonna go to feed. I'm gonna go to the feed tab right right, hang on, it's thinking all right. The newest sermon I have right now is Daily United Prayer. It was posted an hour ago.

17:24 Waiting a punishment or gift that sounds like an interesting discussion. Next is from Grace Baptist Church, posted an hour ago. Christ Vindicated Part three. I mean need to go back to Christ Vindicated Part one. All right, the Seven Sayings of Christ intro Well, that could be good. Next Ephesian six Victory in the Christian Life. You know, I could have some issues with that one. Oh, Ambassador Baptist College. That's from this morning. What is your babbel? Is it an acceptable use of Babylon being symbolic or not? Okay? Right? Oh, this one is good. Four truths about trust? Oh, then I have one here trying the spirits. Now see just my feed, that's where I may go and pay. Now I may go to I may go to the discovered tab for new sermons. Those are the two places I'm going to find stuff. But if I'm limited and what can go in my feed, well then I'm not going to find the stuff. And well, then as a broadcaster, what I need people to find my stuff? Right? I mean if I'm if you're paying so much money to be on a platform, you want your stuff to be discoverable. Right, So that's the first thing I want them to to hopefully change. Second thing notifications, notifications when I on any

18:57 podcasting app. Look, and I mean this, there are some podcasting apps where their notification system is trash right, and almost inevitably I'm deleting it because look, I there are so many podcasts out there. You know what will happen. I'll get a notification, I'll see that, I'll and I'll that's when in many cases I'll tap on it and say, even if I don't listen, right then I will save it because I see it. If people don't see it, it doesn't exist. So when I upload something, I want people to be able to get a notification one if they follow me, but to see they gotta can't be a limit on following me, because if there's a limit in following things, then they won't be able to follow me to get the notifications, right, So I want them to be able to follow and get the notifications whenever I upload. And this is not even this is even more important when I go live. But I would also like the ability that I could just get notifications for the entire site when anybody goes live, when anybody uploads, And now that would be crazy amount of notifications, but at least maybe at least for the p people I follow.

20:01 But then I need you to increase the amount of people I can follow. Right, But wouldn't it be great that you can get notified when someone is going live anyone? In some ways, I think that's cool. Oh, a new live webcast is about to start, because then I can decide if I want to watch it or not or not. So they've got to increase the number of broadcasters that you can follow, and they need a notification system. The church one notification system is superior than anything else we've ever utilized. So I'm hoping that same notification system they already have it. They belt it can be applied to the Sermon's two point oh app. So those are two things I'm desperately looking for. The third thing I want them to fix is the radio tab. If you go to the radio tab and Sermon's two point oh app you have Sermon Audio Radio twenty four to seven, and then VC why American Radio America Radio. I think they should possibly partner maybe I don't know, if they could partner with some others, like maybe Bible Broadcasting Network or maybe you know, yeah, that was the first one I would go with, or fundamentalist broadcasting network. There could be some others and see if you can make their radio feeds available through your app. That'd be a good partnership, right, I think it would be pretty cool. But here's the thing that I love the radio. Love the radio feed, I love that having it there. But the sermon audio radio, it's cool the way they do things right. They play

21:32 a little music, the little devotional thoughts, maybe even just a small clip from a sermon. That's cool, that breaks it up. I like that. But man, I wish they would how can we say this expand the selection? Now? I know they may want to control it to the people they like and the people they want to promote, but all these broadcasters are paying sixty dollars a month to be on the platform. Hope that there would be some times that the radio would be pulling from other sermons on a more random basis, right, a more random basis. And I also would like if they if you know, I don't know how much you would it would be to have someone kind of curate it, right, like a human being, right, Like have someone like literally coming on the air going, hey, welcome this, you know, welcome to sermon audio radio. For Monday, February seventeenth, twenty twenty five.

22:28 Coming up next, we're going to do three sermons on glorification. All right, three random sermons on glorification. Here we go, and then do the first one and then you know, the first one is from this broadcaster. And then then come in after that and say, all right, coming up next, we're going to have a you know, a you know, a sermon on Psalms chapter twenty two or whatever the case may be. Kind of introduce it, give it a personal touch. I don't know, I know that probably is asking a lot. But even if you don't do that, man, you got to pull from you got millions of sermons available. I mean sometimes if you listen, I mean, you can go pull up the sermonadio radio, go listen to it for the day. See how many different things you get.

23:12 Sometimes you'll feel like you're hearing the same people and you're like, there's gotta be other broadcasters on here. Now maybe you don't like them, and I understand, but yeah, I just because where I'm going with this is discoverability. How to make things discoverable. So and discovery that's a key issue in all streaming services. Okay, So we want to be able to increase the number of people that someone can follow. We want notifications, and I think the sermonaudio radio feature is an awesome thing. I think you should expand it. I think you should expand and I think you should try to look to get sermonadio radio available on tune in, iHeartRadio, many of these other platforms that have radio. See if you can submit the sermonadio radio feed to those other platforms and you can use it to promote sermon audio and the sermon audio the sermons to three point zero app. I think you should look to get it wherever there are radio feeds. And itune and iHeartRadio are there two that I know have all kinds of internet radio stations. We'll get sermon audio everywhere everywhere you can get it, right, I think that's I think that's important as well. All Right, So those are so those are a couple of things, right, So the how many people you can follow, notifications and the sermon audio radio. That's the fourth thing is just increase other unique ways to help people discover content. Right. I

24:43 like the collections idea. The collections idea they're doing. I don't think king on. Let me look here Discover. Yeah, if you look at the Discover tab, you've got newest sermons, You've got category, you have scripture, you have popular topics. But those popular topics are not moving. They're not changing based on what's actually popular at any given time. Like right, the first one is nine to eleven tragedy. That is that a popular topic? Now? The nine to eleven tragedy. Maybe it was like I would wish that the popular topics would be updated throughout the day hourly. You know what people are searching for based off that staff picks. Okay, that's great series picks, that's great, newest series, that's good.

25:37 Popular categories now, they do have trending hashtags. I wish there was a better way to get kind of what's trending. But guess what they don't have here? Where's the collections? Remember they started that collection things like a certain like prayer and then having different sermons on prayer. I don't see the collections here. I don't see it on the homes. If I have it on the home, I'm looking. Yeah, they don't have the collections anywhere. Well, in other words, you got to come up with new ways to help people discover the older content, because you just if you'll go, look, I mean, I can demonstrate this to you. You upload your sermon, you upload a new broadcast. You got about forty eight to seventy two hours maybe maybe even that for people to notice it. Possibly you really actually for people to find it, you basically got just a few hours. Actually, you basically just have a few hours because it's gonna either show up in their feed at the very top when you first upload it, it's gonna show up in new sermons, and then it's over. It's gone. So really you only have I take that back, You don't have seventy two hours. You got maybe thirty minutes, maybe an hour, and then your content is buried under I mean they're uploading five thousand to six thousand sermons a week. There's just no way you're gonna get buried under an hour avalanche of content, right, So we got to come up with new discovery tools now. And it's not even about me, it's for all those broadcasters. Sometimes I'll find some sermon

27:09 that's been there for like a year, and it'll be like seven listens, and I'm like, that's in That's horrifying. I feel bad. I want to just I'll sit there and keep listening over and over and over, like, let's at least get them to fifty. Let's at least get them Okay, I'm gonna download this one hundred times. Let's get them to one hundred. I mean, come on, I mean it's been there for a year and it's collecting dust. I mean, like that's crazy. That's why we did the Sermons two point zero app Sermon Challenge. And I'm trying to have you look for random things, right. I was trying to help, and I gave you certain things to search for, right, search for this topic, search for this scripture, and then just choose randomly, don't worry about the date.

27:49 And sometimes we discovered a lot older sermons. Hopefully we got some people some extra listens and some extra streams. But there's gonna have to come some new ways to help people discover. Every service struggles with this, right ever, ever, every single I mean think of if you go Spotify. Spotify does so with their Discovery Weekly, you know playlist where you get a playlist trying to help you discover new music, your release radar, you know new music. That way, they got different playlists that are updated, lots of different things done. So maybe I know they have a series. Maybe maybe they could have a series that's kind of like a Discovery playlist where it's a series put together by sermon audio and they up to and they add like ten sermons a week randomly, just to put them in there. It's like your Discovery weekly playlist, and they can call it. They don't have playlists on here, but they have series, and it can be a series. Anybody can follow the series and you'll get notified anytime they up they change it, and you get ten new sermons every week and they just randomly random. They've got to be random. They can't go go well, these are the people who support us, or these are our favorite broadcasters.

29:07 If all you're going to do is promote your favorites and well, then everyone else is left in the dust. So I'm hoping that come with some new I mean, I could probably come up with a hundred different ways of helping discover things. The collection idea is great, but I think just a sermon audio you're weekly, could what could we call the series New Sermons Weekly or something along those lines, right, and then every week you get ten sermons every week and they just choose them. It could be a sermon, it could be it could be commentary, it could be a devotional it could be anything anything, anything like that. And I think that's uh. I think that's another cool thing that they could do. It would be awesome if they could do some kind of a scheduling tab or it shows you the schedule, like people could put in the schedule for their live webcast and then you could look. I don't know. That would probably a little bit more complicated to operate. But the thing is discovery, right, Discovery is difficult here. So because if I look at the hometab you got the featured sermon, which is great. That helps you discover something. People pay what they pay money to have that featured sermon there.

30:23 Then you've got staff picks. Now, if you look at the staff picks, if you look at the staff picks, you have a lot of the classic audio books. You got sermon audio classics, You've got Bob Jones. I think you have you have kind of a specific you know, I wish, I wish you would say, maybe a set of staff picks. I guess you could have staff picks, but me a category random pigs, like you know, like a random it just pulls up randomly. That can just have the computer or some software just randomly choose one or well, I don't know how often they update the staff picks, but maybe randomly choose three hourly, change it hourly, change it every four or five hours something. And you're just pulling, I mean, way back from the art. You just anything randomly. You're just choosing. It's just like, oh, a look of the draw. It's you're casting lots, okay, and oh that's the sermon that goes there? All right?

31:38 If you look here, and then you've got the stuff you follow followed series and followed broadcasters. But that's great that they list those, but I've got a limited number that I can follow. Newest Sermons. I still think that's the one of the best tabs they have. I'm just looking at the homepage and then they have features and then they have their sponsors. If I go to the if I go to this Discovery Newest Sermons categories again, the popular topics. I wish that was popular or trending. I wish that was updating frequently, you know, frequently, here's what's trending today, and here's what's you know, and it's a new thing again. The series picks, that's again being picked I think by the staff. I wish it would be series, you know, series, your new series, Radar or something.

32:30 Now Serie thinks I'm trying to talk to her, No, thank you, all right? So yeah. And then popular categories again popular categories can they are popular based off why, Like if I think popular and thinking what is going right now, what's happening right now? And then users, comments, speakers, broadcasters features. So that's kind of what's in the Discover Discovers app. So those are some of my my initial thoughts of things that they could do right, Increase the number of people you can follow, notification, fix the or not just fix, make better the radio tab or the radio itself, and then just come up with some discover ability discovery to help people discover new things. Only because you've got this. It's like a library, right, It's like this huge library, gigantic library of millions of sermons. But if it's if it's in you know, section Z, nobody's walked by the section in fifteen years, and it's collecting dust, that's kind of like your all of that all of that content is of no value unless someone can find it. Now, I know people can find it searching, right, they can search,

34:05 But I'm always curious. I wonder what comes to the top is the most recent. Now you've got filters, you can do things that way, but you've got to get the see that that requires the people to be like, oh, I'm going to search this way, I'm gonna change the filter, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that. It still requires a lot of work on the user's behalf. And what we do know in twenty twenty five say users are very They almost want to approach the con the apps in a more passive way. They just want the content to be there for them. They want to necessarily go looking for it, because once you start looking, then you can you know how it can just be. People will talk about this with Netflix or other things. You'll just start looking. It's like one thing after another after another.

34:48 I don't even know what to choose from. I can't find anything because you kind of need it put right there before you. Well, people can start searching. You're just scrolling through one sermon after another sermon after another sermon. What do you choose from. So I don't know which, I don't know what changes are coming. I have no idea, but those are the ones I would like to see. That's just my own personal opinion. Let me make it very clear what I want we'd probably be very different than what you want. So I'm not saying my preferences should outweigh anybody else's preferences. I'm just stating my preferences because well, I have a microphone, and because I am trying to do everything I can to promote people to get it. So maybe I throw out my preferences and everyone will be interested to see if my preferences show up in any way, shape or form. And then you'll go to the Apple App Store the Google play Store right now and download the Sermon's two point oh app.

35:41 And by the way, this is kind of sad in my opinion, because we got millions of people who claim to be Christians. Right If I go to the app store right now, I type in the Sermons two point oh app Sermon's two point oh. There it is, Ladies and gentlemen, it only has sixty six ratings. Millions of Christians and you can't get above sixty six ratings. They should have. People can't take five minutes to give it a five and it only has four point zero doesn't even have five stars? Come on, now, I don't know what it has in the Google play Store. Can I pull it up in the Google play Store? Let me see here? Can I get to the Google play Store.

36:31 Let me look here Google Play Let me see what we can pull up here Google play Store? All right, for that evil Android apps? Can I get it to open? Can I do a search here? Let me do a search here? Do a search sermons two point zho? There it is. It shows that it only had oh wow, okay, obviously most people using this are Android users. It has three hundred and thirty eight reviews. But look at this, it's out of three point oh. That's brutal. It has five hundred. It only has fifty thousand downloads. That's it.

37:12 Fifty thousand. That's insane. What is it? Like? Christians like I don't want to listen to sermons? Right? Do you have people in your church you can say, hey, download the sermon's two point oh app? Like I don't. What's the difficult? I don't know? Can I get to the reviews? Hang on? Can I get to the reviews here. I don't think I can get to the reviews on my Apple device. I wanted to see if I could read the reviews. That's horrifying. Three point oh. I'm assuming it goes to five point oh. And I got only fifty thousand downloads. That that's horrible. The Church one app has four point four that that's kind of brutal. Fifty thousand downloads I get more than I get more than fifty thousand downloads a month. Like, what is that? I mean, come on, I mean that's a whole platform. Come on that. Yeah, that's got to get fixed. Come on, guys, come on.

38:19 If you haven't if you haven't given a five star rate, if you haven't given a rating, you haven't written a review, please consider writing a review and giving another star rating in the Google Play Store or the Apple App Store. Please consider that because that gives it more notice. Even if I know we can take it for granted, we can be like, yeah, whatever, it's just a bunch of sermons. Well, that's kind of what we're supposed to be about as Christians, is listening to Bible teaching, right, whether we like it or whether we dislike it, whether we agree with it or disagree with it. It gets us into the words. So I'll consider that all right. I wanted to just take a few minutes to I took forty minutes to talk about it again. I don't have any insight. I don't have any I mean, if they want to give me the beta test, I'll start testing it right now, and I can test it live on the air and tell everyone what I'm seeing. You probably don't want me doing that, but yeah, I'm definitely willing to offer any feedback. I mean, we spend all of twenty twenty four, twenty twenty four promoting the app. That's all we did in twenty twenty four.

39:20 A lot of people say, all you did was criticized. No, I kept telling people to go listen every sermon we criticize. What did I say, Go listen to it, download it, stream it any I would tell you to go download the entire series. We constantly promote what we're reviewing. We're trying to get people to listen to it and download it. So download the Sermon's two point oh app. And please please, if you haven't given it, come on, give it a review, do something, give it some I mean I do the same thing with the podcast. I mean I don't do it all the time. I like most podcasters. Most podcasters is like, please consider you know, giving us a five star rating and writing a positive review. Please do that please. It's like, I mean, that's a normal thing for podcasters to promote because that's how things are found and discovered.

40:07 So yeah, I want, I want, if I want Sermon Audio to help for all broadcasters get their content discovered. Well, I can't worry about them making my content and putting my content somewhere we can be discovered if I'm not going to help them get discovered by having people download the app. So download the app And that's just three point oh. That's that's a that's crazy. Fifty thousand, fifty thousand you know what that that that's if you take all the broadcasters on the Sermon's two point oh app, they're all a ninety and five percent of them are churches.

40:53 Those churches have fifty one hundred, two hundred, three hundred four hundred people. Not you haven't gotten everyone in your church to download the Sermon's two point oh app. You can't even get the people who go to church to download You think just having the people who attend all of the churches represented on the Sermon's two point oh app would have we would be one hundred thousand, two hundred thousand, three hundred thousand downloads. Hey we but I Hey, I know I know how that works. I know how that works. Okay, I mean I promoted. I promoted the church one app and the Sermon's two point oh app for an entire year. And I think it was this year I found out that a good portion of people in my own church had not even downloaded the Church one App. I'm like, okay, I've only done I've only spent a year promoting it, right, So, uh so that sometimes I don't know what you can do. I don't Maybe maybe you could just have someone standing at the door and when people leave church, let me give me your phone. There you go, you have the Sermon's two point oh app on your phone. Next, okay, next, and just nobody can leave the church until I put the Sermon's two point oh app on your phone. There you go.

42:02 That's what pastors need to do, all right, have people standing at the doorways you cannot leave, hand me your phone. I don't want an app where I can listen to sermons. I don't want that on my phone, right, so I'm sorry, or or you'll it's what's even worse is when you're on an app like Sermon's two point oh app, where you have the church one app and then you you're preaching and you start doing a review and people are like, well, I wasn't here. Oh man. Whenever if someone says that to me, I just want to go You're right, I know you weren't here. It would be great if we had some way when when you're not here you could listen to the sermon, Like it'd be cool, Like there could be like an app and you could like listen, you know, like on your phone, like in the morning or in the afternoon, or you could download it. Or wouldn't that be I wonder what we should call this thing?

42:56 Maybe the Internet, I don't know, Maybe an app, be the church one at maybe the Sermon's two point. Wouldn't it be cool if you could like I know that's very sarcastic. I'm sorry, but sometimes yeah, I almost lose it when people say that, well, we weren't here. How are we supposed to know the answers? I don't know, because The sermon was uploaded thirty five minutes after it was preached. I don't know so yeah that yeah, that drives me crazy. So there we go. Hopefully we can get more people to use it, and maybe in twenty twenty five, I'm hoping to see what they do with the three point zero. I'm hoping for something good, right, positive? So what are your preferences? What do you want for the app? What do you want? I want to be able to follow more broadcasters. I want a notification system.

43:43 I want the radio to maybe expand and add more. So it's a good tool to use. And I want some you know, to help other And I mean it, they I and I truly mean this. I don't I'm not saying this in any other way. I mean this. And I'll end with this a sermon for all the guys at Sermon Audio. Can you can keep my content hidden? All right? That's fine? Help everyone else out, all right? Help everyone ouse out, because yeah, those churches are paying money. Help their content be discovered, help them get discover, help them be found. Help that that sermon that someone spent you know, ten twelve hours preparing, preaching and uploading. Maybe the people in front of them don't care, but maybe someone online it could be great benefit to them. So help people discover more. Now, of course, it's also up to us, the users to discover more by doing a little work and using what is available. So sometimes you know it's on us, but also you want different ways to find it. So if you have any cool ideas well, you can let them know. You can email sermon audio and let them know and we'll see. I'm going to kind of wait and see and we'll find out. So be looking for the sermons three point zero app I'm hoping shows up soon. All right, thanks for listening everyone, have a great day. God bless