Sept. 28, 2024
Romans 8:10-11 Pt 4
We survey another sermon on Romans 8:10-11
We survey another sermon on Romans 8:10-11
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Looking at our world from a theological perspective.
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This is the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central.
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Have you ever wanted to just completely give up? Have
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you ever reached a point where you're just so irritated, frustrated?
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You just feel defeated, discouraged, depressed, and you're just like,
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what's the use? It just doesn't matter. It's meaningless, it's
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vanity of vanities, it's useless, it's a waste of time.
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No one else seems to care. So why are you
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so bothered by it? Like, have you ever had some
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of those feelings, maybe not those exact words. Well, if
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you have felt that way, well I guess you're in
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the right place. But you're not gonna get any really
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good answers today. I don't think I'm gonna make you
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feel any better. So I guess maybe we can just
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by the end of this, we can all just give
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up together. Now, with all of that said, it is Saturday,
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September the twenty eighth, twenty twenty four. It is currently
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eleven oh one am Central time, and I am coming
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to you live from the Theology Central studio located right
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here in Albilene, Texas. Now, you know, for the last
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few broadcasts, I've started off with something like, this is
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Patrol one. Come in headquarters, headquarters. This is Patrol one.
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Please come in Patrol one. This is headquarters. Go ahead. Yes,
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I'm at the First Baptist Church and we have a
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horrible discovery. We have discovered three hundred dead bodies. Remember,
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we've been going through this. I've been acting this out.
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Obviously the acting hasn't been very good. But I've been
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acting this out right. And why have I been acting
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this out? Because I've been creating this kind of scenario,
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this metaphor, this illustration, to try to drive home this
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reality that as Christians, there's a reality. Nobody wants to
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admit it, but the reality is this that Christians continue
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to sin. In fact, I've been very dogmatic about a
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couple of points. Right, we cannot keep the law of God,
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non Christian Christian, we cannot keep the law of God.
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How do I know this? Well, I can give you
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some very specific commands. Be holy as He is holy.
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You're never going to be as holy as He is holy,
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meaning you're in a perpetual state of disobedience. So number one,
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you will never keep the law of God. Number two,
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that means you're in a perpetual state of disobedience. You
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are in a perpetual state of disobedience, and for some
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weird reason, Christianity has a hard time of acknowledging that. Now,
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if you're in a perpetual state of disobedience, then how
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do you understand the Christian life? Right? How do you
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view it? Because if we're in a perpetual state of disobedience,
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then the Christian life is a life of sin. We
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continue to sin, but they have this weird thing like, okay,
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well we may continue to sin, but you will not
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commit these sins. Well, wait a minute, if I can't
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be perfect and I'm going to continue to sin, how
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do you know which sins you're going to commit? And
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which sense I'm going to commit? And why are some
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sins outside of the realm of possibility or possibly even
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means you're not saved or you know something horrible has
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to happen, while all these other sins are okay. It's
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this confounding, confusing world of Christianity. And not only is
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that a reality that nobody really wants to admit, while
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that is a reality that everyone is living, whether they
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want to admit it or not. At the very same time,
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Christians are running around saying, no, when you became saved,
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you're a new creature. Old things are passed away. Behold,
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all things are new. Well, if I'm a new creature,
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old things are gone and everything is new, then why
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do we continue to sin? Oh, you have a new heart,
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you have a new nature, you have a new mind.
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You now have the power of God living inside of
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you to make you holy.
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Well.
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If I have the power of God inside of me,
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if I have the Holy Spirit inside of me to
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make me holy, well, then perfection should not just be expected,
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it should just be immediately understood and experienced. I said, well, no,
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it doesn't happen instantaneously. It's progressive. So you're telling me
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the power of God they're supposed to be driving me
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to holiness can't just get me there. It's this progressive thing.
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And then Christians will then ultimately admit, but you'll never
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get there. So I'm never going to be perfect. Well,
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you're never going to be perfect. So if I'm never
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going to be perfect, that means that I'm a perpetual
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state of sin. If I'm in a perpetual state of sin,
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how can then you say, well, if you commit this
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sin or this sin, well then something bad happens. How
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can I control which sin I'm going to commit? If
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you're telling me that I can't be perfect, that means
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there's going to be some sin. So who gets to
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determine which sin?
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Oh?
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It just bec maddening. And if you start trying to
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talk to Christians about it, you just end up talking
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in circles and they will they will make these claims
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and then immediately backtrack, and then make the claim and
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then immediately backtrack and then make like, well, this is
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the way it's supposed to be, and then you'll just
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challenge that. So you're saying I can be perfect, Well no,
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so that means I'm in a perpetual stay of sin.
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Well yeah, but you have to be transformed. Well, so
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I'm transformed, But how do you measure transformation? Well, you'll
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sind less sin less? And what way externally or internally?
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Because I can sind less externally, but that doesn't mean
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I'm sinning less internally, And how do you measure that?
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And if I'm sinning less in one area, what if
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I'm not sending less in another area? How are you
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measuring which is less and which is more based off
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some just arbitrary subjective standard by which you measure, by
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which you test, and in many cases to send you
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seeing I can't commit, You're just choosing certain sins. Well,
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this sin you can't, but this sin you can. Wait.
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Why is this sin and worse than this sin? Other
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than maybe from a human perspective, I obviously understand from
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human perspective or human you know circumstances. Well, I'm not
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even looking. But if we're not supposed to be looking
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at it from a human perspective, right, aren't we supposed
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to be looking at it from a theological perspective, from
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God's perspective? So we have been working on this non stop,
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and it's just it's I've reached the point where I'm
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just like, I'm exhausted. I'm like, I don't even know
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what to do anymore, because there aren't any answers. And
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the more you listen, the more sermons you listen to,
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we've already we've been working on sermons on Romans eight
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ten through eleven. Why have we been working on sermons
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on those two verses? Because remember I found the book
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Six Secrets of the Christian life and remember their entire theory. Well,
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the reason Christians continue to sin is because even though
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we've been transformed on the inside, our bodies are dead,
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and our bodies cannot respond to all of that transform
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nature and the spirit inside of us. So there's a disconnect.
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My body is dead to all the spiritual change that's
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happened inside of me, but inside I've been perfectly transformed,
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but my body can't respond. So what is needed, Well,
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my body just needs to be resurrected. Well, how is
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it resurrected? Well, so far, the best answer we've been
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given is well, you just have to study and read
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your Bible, and then well that's not a resurrection. Then
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it's supposedly a progressive transformation that I guess the more
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I read my body, the more I read my Bible
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and study my Bible, the more my body then can
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respond to. And it's like it didn't even make any sense.
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And there's no real explanation. Other people we've listened to,
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other sermons, they've not even really given an explanation. On
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one hand, they say you can keep the law. They
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literally have said that doubled down. You can keep it,
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but you can't be perfect. Wait, if I can keep it,
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then I can be perfect. So I can keep I
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don't do they offer an explanation. No, they say, you
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can't be carnal, you can't be fleshley, because Christians there
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are no such things as cardinal Christians. However, you can
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be a wretched man and sin, and you will continue
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to sin. However, you're not carnal or fleshley, and so
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then they try to draw some subjective difference between it.
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It's a lot of play on words. They make it
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sound like you basically are perfect, but then you can't
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be perfect. You will sin, but you won't sin. You
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don't have to sin, but you can't. And it's just
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I started joking. I used to joke that listening to
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some sermons just wants to, you know, make me want
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to stop by the liquor store. And by this and
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this series, I've basically said, forget the liquor store. I'm
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just going straight to rehab because I don't have any answers.
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I have tried to go through entire history of Christianity
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looking for how Christians have tried to handle this. Not
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we just there's no answers. Ladies and gentlemen, there's none,
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and so I'm going to be working on this, probably
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a little bit more. I don't know how the next
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week is going to be. I probably will be working
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a little bit on this Tomorrow at Victory Baptist Church,
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at least the first hour. The second hour we need
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to get to the next Therefore, in Romans, who knows,
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I may dedicate two hours to some of these issues tomorrow.
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I don't know. I haven't made a decision yet because
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on one hand, I want the people there to ensure
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that they understand this reality. But I know I can't
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be I guess this is where I'm at. I can't
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be the only Christian who understands this reality. When I
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listen to preaching and listen to Christians talk, it appears
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that I am the only one who understands this reality.
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I know that's not the case. I know there are some,
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but I think the ones who will admit this reality
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or in the minority of the minority of the minority
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of the minority, And if you bring this up, you're
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the one viewed as crazy. But I don't know how
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Christians just live their lives convincing themselves that they're better
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than they actually are, that they're better than other people
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and they cannot see how they are in a perpetual
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state of sin. It's like here, it's like, this is
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how Christianity really works, if we really want to get
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down to it. Forget God, forget transformed. We use all
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of that language, but what it comes down to is
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this is the Christianity everyone's okay with. Just don't commit
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these sins, whatever they are. For you just name four
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of them, five of them, six of them. There's just
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a couple of big ones. But everything else, well, no
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one's really perfect. And it's okay if we commit all
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these other sins. I mean, I mean, we may feel
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bad about it, and we say, but we don't really
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worry that much about them, right. So, really, Christianity is
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just a moral system that has some sins that are
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not acceptable and we can you know, most of them
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are sexual sins. Those are that's that's that's a bridge
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too far if you if you cross that line, well
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then you're finished. Now. All the other sins, it's okay.
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A little gossip, slander, backbiting, unloving, not loving your enemy, bitterness,
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I'm forgetting. Now we'll hear sermons about it and feel
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bad about it. I'm not saying we won't, but I
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mean the reality is, we don't really care about any
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of those sins. Oh we say we do, but we
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really don't. Because if we really did care about those
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sins and they really bothered us, then you every Christian
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would be having the same crisis that I'm having, which
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is and I've been having at my whole Christian life. Well,
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wait a minute, why do we continue to sind? Why
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do we continue to sind? Why do we continue to sind? Why? Well,
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and again, you just understand the logical problem you fall into, right,
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because on one hand, you say, no, you're a new creature.
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Old things are passed away, All things have become new.
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You have a new heart, you have a new soul,
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you have a new heart, a new mind, a new spirit.
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Everything has changed insight of you. And that you can
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keep the law of God by the power of God.
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That's the claims Christians make. Well, then why do you sin?
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What is keeping you from perfection? Now? The minute you
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something is the minute you acknowledge you can't be perfect.
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The minute you acknowledge that, then you've got to logically
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then answer, what is keeping you from it. Now you
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claim you have all this power, you have all this ability,
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then why can't you be perfect? And then my argument
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is logically, whatever is keeping you from perfection is stronger
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and more powerful than all of those things you claim
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have changed, and all those things you claim are helping
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you get to holiness. No, whatever is keeping you from
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it is stronger than all the things trying to get
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you to it. Well, then what is it that's stronger.
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You're saying your sinful nature is stronger. You're saying the
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human will is stronger. And if the human will is stronger,
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be holy? That even is even more confusing, I say,
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I watched some say, well, the problem you don't understand
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is that man has free will. Well, that free will
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arises from the desires. That will chooses what comes from
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its nature. From what where the desires come from?
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