Sept. 25, 2024
Romans 8:10-11 Pt 2
We continue our survey of sermons on Romans 8:10-11
We continue our survey of sermons on Romans 8:10-11
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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is
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the Theology Central podcast, making Theology Central.
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Welcome everyone.
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It is Wednesday, September the twenty fifth, twenty twenty four.
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It is currently two pm Central Time, and I am
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coming to you live from the Theology Central studio located
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right here in Albilene, Texas. The Christian life is a
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life of sin. The Christian life is a life of sin.
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I know that goes against almost everyone's theology, but it
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is true, ladies and gentlemen, it is true. The Christian
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life is a life of sin. God's Law demands perfection.
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It tells you to be holy as God is holy.
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You're never as holy as God is holy. So you
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are in a perpetual state of sin because you never
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obey that one simple commandment. And then we could add
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more commandments and more commandments and more commandments, and you.
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Are guilty, guilty, guilty.
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Because the law not only demands perfection externally, it demands
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it internally, You're in a perpetual state of sin. The
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Christian life is a life of sin, and Christianity through it.
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Two thousand years of history has tried to figure out
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how to process that truth and how to process that
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reality and how to deal with it. And let me
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just say, if you look at all the things that's
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been said about this reality, it's gone everywhere from total
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denial of the reality to every kind of convoluted and
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contradictory explanation you can come up with, and at times
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it can be absolutely maddening. But let me just state
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it clearly, so there is no confusion. When you think
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of the Christian life. You have to start with the
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like basic principles, and that is, no one keeps God's law.
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Number two, we are in a perpetual state of sin.
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That is the truth.
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Whatever else you believe about salvation, whatever else you believe
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about being transformed, whatever else you believe about the power
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of the Holy Spirit, those two things remain a reality.
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No one keeps God's law. We are in a perpetual
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state of sin. Unless you accept those two facts, then
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you're just You've created a fantasy world. You have a
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Disney version of Christianity. You have a Hallmark Movie Channel
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version of Christianity. And that's of no value to you,
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nor me, nor anyone. We have to deal with the
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reality that sin is a reality. So we've been trying
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to listen to some different approaches to this subject. We
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kind of looked at the lordship approach a little bit.
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On Sunday, we looked at this book Six Secrets of
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the Christian Life and their approach, and we've been taking
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that apart, and that has been confusing. And we've been
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reviewing sermons, surveying sermons on Romans chapter eight, verses ten
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through eleven, because there's a specific A lot of people
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look to Romans eight ten through eleven for some kind
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of answer, and the book Six Secrets of the Christian Life,
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they built their hypotheses on those verses, and we've already
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found ourselves extremely confused. So we're getting ready to survey
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another sermon on Romans eight ten through eleven. I don't
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know where this one's going to go. We're going to
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try to see how they approach it. But before we
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do anything else, because the reality is you're a sinner.
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I'm a sinner. You're living in sin, and I'm living
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in sin.
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Let's begin with a confession of sin borrowed from the
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Church fathers. Lord Jesus Christ, you stretched out your hands
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on the cross and redeemed us by your blood for
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me a sinner, for none of my thoughts are hidden
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from you. Pardon I ask, pardon, I hope for pardon.
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I trust to have you, who are full of pity
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and mercy, spare me and forgive. If we confess our sins.
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He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins
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and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. I want you
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to hear that again, Lord Jesus Christ, who stretched out
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your hands on the cross and redeemed us by your blood,
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forgive me a sinner, present tense. Practically I'm a sinner.
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Positionally I'm perfect, But practically i'm a sinner.
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For none of my thoughts are hidden from you. None
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of my thoughts are because none of my thoughts are
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hidden from God. I am a sinner.
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Forget my desires, forget my motivations, forget my actions, forget
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my inaction. Just take my thoughts and desire and guess
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what I need to come to God and say, forgive me,
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for I'm a sinner because none of my thoughts are
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hidden from you.
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Pardon, I ask, pardon, I hope for pardon.
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I trust to have you, who are full of pity
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and mercy, spare me and forgive.
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The Early Church.
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Understood that every time we show up to worship, it
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is a gathering of sinners who are in sin, who
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are living in sin, who are guilty of sin. And
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we have to acknowledge that whatever we're going to do
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with Romans eight, whatever we're going to do about how
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Christians understand sin and how you've got to start with
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those basic concepts. No one can keep the law. And
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you're in a perpetual state of sin. And I know,
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I know you. You want to say, no, no, no, no,
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I'm a new creature. All things are passed away, all
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things are become new. Well, then you should not sin.
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There should be no sin left at all anywhere in you.
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But you continue to sin. Why do you continue to sin?
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You say, I've been set free from sin. Well, if
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you've been set free from sin, then you should be
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able to be perfect because whatever is keeping you from perfection,
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you're not free from. You're free from the penalty of sin,
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the condemnation of sin, the guilt of sin, because in
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Christ Jesus, you are perfect. In Christ Jesus, positionally you
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are a new creature. Practically you're still a sinner. Practically
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you still have a sin nature, and practically you cannot
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keep the law and you cannot be perfect, meaning you
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are still not free from the bondage of sin.
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As far as.
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Your body, your nature, you're still it's still there, and
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it keeps you from perfection. Now, the theory that we.
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Looked at in the book Six Secrets of the Christian Life.
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Remember they put forth third argument. Remember it goes like this.
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Number one, the Christian body is dead. Your body is
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dead to anything spiritual. All right, this is their hypotheses.
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Number two, the nature and heart inside of you is
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perfectly changed. Everything inside of you is perfectly changed, transformed.
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There is no sin inside of you. The problem is
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your body.
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So this is how it works.
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The body is dead spiritually, but your nature and everything
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internally has been transformed. But your body cannot respond to
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the new nature. The new nature may want to, may
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desire to, but your body is unresponsive. So what you
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need is some kind of a spiritual resurrection. You need
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your body needs to be experienced a resurrection now, not
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the ultimate resurrection, but a resurrection now so that it
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can then be alive to well the new nature and
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the new heart. How do we get this supposed spiritual resurrection. Well,
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the best answer the book has given us in chapter
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two is we need a transformation which is progressive that
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doesn't even sound like a resurrection.
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And it's up to you and me to.
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Make it happen, even though they say God is the
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one who does it, because it all comes down to
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how much time.
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You read and study your Bible.
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So there are hypotheses even though it kind of started
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at least even may, even if I may have disagreed,
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I could at least understand it. Now it's just becoming
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justice convoluted and contradictory as well all the other systems.
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Now they base it on Romans chapter eight, Romans Chapter eight,
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verse ten and eleven, which reads, and if Christ be
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in you, the body is dead because of sin, but
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the spirit is life because of righteousness. But if the
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spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead
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dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the
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dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his spirit
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that dwell within you. And then they take that and
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try to apply that to why Christians struggle and why
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we sin. Well, it's because of a dead body, but
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yet we're alive on the inside. But the life on
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the inside can't do anything because the body is dead.
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And it becomes very confusing. And the sermon, the last
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sermon we reviewed, was it was just insane. I mean,
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I don't even We were told we can keep the law,
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yet there was an acknowledgement that nobody does, even though
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supposedly we can. There's no cardinal Christians and there's no
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fleshly Christian. Yet we continue to sin, and we can
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be a wretched man that I am, So we continually
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to sin, we can be wretched, but somehow we're not
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cardinal or fleshley.
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It was all over the place.
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Yet we can keep the law, but yet no one
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keeps the law. Somehow righteousness was put inside of us,
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but yet it's the doctrine of imputation, which doesn't put
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righteousness inside of us. It was so philologically a mess
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that well, there's a part of me wanted to continue,
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but I'm like, nope, let's just grab the sermon's two
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point oh app or in this particular case, I grabbed
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the sermon audio website search for Romans eight ten through eleven,
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picked a random sermon, which is what you're supposed to
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be doing.
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And I found one, and we're gonna listen to it.
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All right, we're gonna we're gonna review it, we're gonna
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analyze it.
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I don't know how this is going to go. We
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will find out. Are you ready?
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I hope you're ready. That was a ten minute review.
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I hope I got everything in to the best of
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my ability. There's lots of pieces to this. Remember sometimes
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in this podcast, if you've got to be patient, because
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sometimes we're like, well, here's this and this and this
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and this, and it can seem confusing. But I think
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typically before it's all over, we wrap it.
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Up nice and neat.
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I think you can argue the effectiveness of doing it
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that way, but I think it typically works. But it
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takes us on a wild and winding road. Okay, along
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and winding road, a wild and winding road, however you
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want to describe the road. There's lots of twist turns
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and ups and downs, but we get there eventually.
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So let's see.
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Where this we remember when I do reviews, I don't
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listen to the sermons first, so it's random. I'm just
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I told you to listen to random sermons on Romans
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eight ten through eleven. Well, I don't ask you to
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do something I'm not doing, so I'm doing it with you.
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And here's the random one I've chosen for today. I
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have no idea what's about to happen, or we're going
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to find out together.
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Sit back, here we go.
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I'd glad you to be turning in your copies of
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God's Word to Romans chapter eight. Romans Chapter eight. You
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that are visiting with us, we are in the midst
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of an exposition of Romans A, particularly with emphasis upon
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the Spirit of God. We're calling to study life in
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the spirit. Let me read of our portion this morning,
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Romans eight, beginning in verse five down through verse twelve.
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Romans eight, Chapter eight, Verse five through verse twelve. For
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those who live according to the flesh set their minds
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on the things of the flesh. But those who live
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according to the spirit the things of the Spirit. For
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to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually
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minded is life in peace. Because the carnal mind is
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enmity against God, for it is not subject to the
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law of God.
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Nor indeed can be so.
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Then those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
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But you are not in the flesh, but in the spirit,
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If indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now,
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if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he
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is none of his.
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Is not his.
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And if Christ is in you, the body is dead
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because of sin, but the spirit is life because of righteousness.
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But if the spirit of Him who raised Jesus from
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the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ from
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the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies
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through His spirit who dwells in you.
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And then Paul brings us to a.
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Very pointed practical application in verse twelve. Therefore, brethren, we
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are debtors, not to the flesh, to live according to
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the flesh.
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So reads the word of God.
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Let's pray and ask for the Lord to help us
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to understand and apply his word to our hearts this morning.
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Let's pray together all our heavenly Father.
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We come this morning recognizing that this is a rather difficult,
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even complex portion of your word, and we need your
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special help.
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