Repentance and Confusion Pt 2

0:02 Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is the Theology Central podcast, making Theology Central. I think I should change the name of this podcast from Theology Central to where how would I call it? What would I call this? Where part one that shouldn't be a part one? Let me see that where one episode becomes multiple episodes? Now I don't know, I don't know. I need to change the name somehow to capture the idea that a lot of times when I start a broadcast and I don't even have the intention of making a part when I was going to call this, I need to call this podcast where part one becomes part two? But that's kind of I wasn't really thinking, because well, obviously, if you have a part one, you have to have a part two, right, because that's why you called it part one. So that really wouldn't capture the idea. It's really where an episode turns in to multiple parts, because it happens to me all the time. I turn on this microphone like Okay, I'm gonna do this, but I have no intention of it turning into a part two, or a part three, or a part four, or even into a mini series.

1:11 But over and over and over that happens to me, and that's kind of where we are today. So we're going to do a part two that was never even meant to be a part one, and we're going to do that in just a second. But I guess what I need to do is give you a proper introduction. Good afternoon, everyone. It is Wednesday, July the twenty fourth, twenty twenty four. It is currently four ten pm Central Time, and I am coming to you live from the Theology Central Studio located right here in Abilene, Texas. Yes, in our last live broadcast, I simply wanted to review some audio about a sermon, a review audio from a sermon that was about the subject of repentance. And the reason I wanted to do that is one the title caught my attention because the title of the sermon is the Repent of Your Sins confusion. So that caught my attention.

2:09 Not only that it was a sermon I found on the sermon's two point oh app which obviously helps with our Sermons two point oh app sermon challenge that we're doing for twenty twenty four. So I'm like, okay, I definitely the title of this got my attention. It's on the sermon's two point oh app So that helps with the challenge that we're doing. And I'm very much have been talking about forever that after two thousand years of church history, nobody can yet agree on anything about repentance. We can't agree on the definition of the word. We can't agree on how it works, doesn't work? Is it something God does, something we do? Is it required for salvation? Is it not required for salvation? What is it? How much of it?

2:51 And just all of these never ending arguments. So I'm like, you know what, this is the perfect thing to do. So I'm like, okay, let's do a quick review. It'll be interesting. We don't have to review the whole sermon. And then the next thing. You know, well, when I started the review, it got far more interesting than I was anticipating. And well, now here we are doing a part two that was never meant to be a part one. But hopefully we will finish this. We'll see how close we can get. Right. These reviews always go longer than I intend. At some point you think I would catch on, but I never do. All right, but are you ready? Let me try to give you some basic information and then we will get started. First and foremost, I want you to go find the original sermon, because I want you to not only listen to the original sermon without my commentary, analysis and critique and agreement or disagreement, but I want you to listen to it, and I want you to listen to the sermon that preceded it. So the weird thing is all right. So first, the name of the church.

3:47 The church is Verity Baptist Church, Verity Baptist Church, located in Sacramento, California. Please follow them on the sermon's two point oh app follow them so that all of their new content will show up in your feed. And when I say follow one doesn't mean I always agree, doesn't mean I always disagree. But hey, we've already found in just the first review. The first part of this review is that this sermon has been very interesting, very intriguing, and I think adds a perspective that is missing from many churches. So I think a lot of people should should follow it. The name of the series is Rooted and Grounded. Rooted and Grounded. There are two sermons.

4:32 Now they need to they need to add some artwork. And I don't understand their Part one Part two concept here. But remember the first sermon in this series is Faith Versus Works, which I have not listened to yet, but we all definitely need to go listen to it. The second one is the Repent of Your Sins Confusion, which is what we're currently reviewing. They label Faith Versus Works Part one and then the Repent of Your Sins Confusion Part two, but really they don't need to know. That's really confusing. They should just call it Faith Versus Works the Repent of your Sense Confusion. All in the series Rooted and Grounded, adds some Rooted and Grounded, add some artwork, and then they will be good to go. But you can follow the series directly if you don't want to follow the church, and we'll see how many other messages they add to this series. But it has been very interesting and very intriguing. Now we in our last review and part one of this we kind of broke it down that there's basically two camps when it comes to the doctrine of repentance. Basically two camps right now. I know there's lots of variations. Some may say there's a third camp. I understand that, but I'm just saying basically, you can put most people, this will cover most into basically two camps when it comes to the subject of repentance.

5:47 The first camp is, repentance is not necessary for salvation, and repentance is something that we do. It's something we do, and it's not necessary for salvation, all right. The other camp is, repentance is absolutely necessary for salvation. However, it's not something we do. God is the one who grants repentance. Typically in that second camp, which is typically more reformed and in the lordship world, hey, repentance is not something we do. It's a work of God. It's necessary for salvation. And this camp would almost inevitably say repentance is not just a change of mind, it's an actual change in action. It's a turning from sin. It's stopping to stop sinning.

6:38 You have to do this, and if you don't do this, you prove your repentance is not genuine. Therefore you're not saved. All right. Now, there's lots of problems with this view, as we've already articulated. Wait a minute, if God is the one granting the repentance, then that repentance should be well, it's God gave it to you. It should be perfect, it should be permanent, it should be absolute, it should be complete when you turn from your sin, turn from all sin, because it's the repentance God gave you. So therefore Christians should never sin again. But they're like, no, God grant you repentance, but you have to repent every single day. So then every single day God grants me repentance. Well, then what how many times does God have to grant you repentance before you stop sinning completely? It becomes really problematic. It's all over the place and so but at the same time, they say, you have to repent in order to be saved. But yet it's not a work because it's a work God does. It's not a work you do, so therefore it's not But if you don't, if you don't turn from your sin, then you prove your repentance is not genuine. Therefore you're not saved. However, so but then they say, you don't have to turn from your sin before you're saved.

7:40 You have to be willing to turn from your sin. But if you don't turn from your sin enough after you're saved, then you prove you were never saved. It becomes very circular, reasoning, contradictory and confusing. The other camp Again, Basically, you can repent on your own. It's not a work of God right. You can do it according to your own free will, but it's not required for salvation. The only thing required for salvation is to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved. Now, within that camp, there's a lot of variation there, and some of it can get confusing. I put forth kind of a third option that repentance is necessary for salvation, but repentance is that deals with salvation. As far salvation is concerned, Repentance is simply a change of mind where we change our mind about God, about salvation, about Heaven, about Hell, about sin, about the Cross, about all. We change our mind and in a sense we turn from our sin, not in practice, but we turn from our sin to go to Christ, to say, save me from my sin.

8:45 I believe you died for my sin, you paid for my sin, and I'm trusting in your imputed righteousness. Repentance is simply a change of mind, and God has to grant that change of mind. It is not a change in action in regards to sin. Salvation. That is the argument I have put forth, so it would be necessary for salvation, but it's a change of mind. Obviously, you have to have a change of mind for salvation because you've turning from unbelieved to belief. You're turning away from your sin to Christ for salvation. We're not saying turning away from sin in practice, because we know we're all going to continue to sin. So I got to put forth a third option. You can go back and listen to all A Part one. I don't want to spend more time in review than that.

9:26 So what we're going to do is we're going to go back to this sermon the Repentance of your Sin confusion from a Verity Baptist Church, And well, I kind of backed it up a little bit. He's about to get into the definition of repentance. He's put forth some things to try to clear what he thinks are some things that people are confused about in regards to repentance. I think I've backed it up enough where he's going to repeat those. But the main thing we want to do in this episode is this discussion on how should we define repentance. Let's see where this goes and I'll say again, I see the word preach, I see the word should, I see the word men, I see the word repent. But where does it say of your sins? What does it say repent of your sins to be saved.

10:18 I can show you a verse it says, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shall be saved. Can you show me a verse that says repent of your sins and you'll be saved. You can't because it's not in the Bible. Now, he made a huge point out of this in the first part that we reviewed that the Bible nowhere specifically says repent of your sins. It says repent, but it doesn't say repent of your sins. Now, that's the argument he's made. We've not obviously looked up every phrase to determine that, but he's saying that exact phrase and that exact order is not there. Now he's made a big deal out of that. Now, some may say, well, that's a ridiculous thing to make a big deal out of, because we can at least prove that concept, And maybe you're right.

11:01 You can determine how important that argument is or is it. But he's definitely repeated it now countless times. Now the Bible uses the word repent repentance, repenting, repentant, repentance is a comment that found the scripture. Sometimes I'll preach a sermon like this, and then people will accuse us, say, oh, that past or that preach or that church. They don't believe in repentance. We believe in repentance. We just don't believe in adding works to salvation like you do. The Bible talks about repentance, but we must be careful not to add what you read in a commentary somewhere, not to add what you read in some theological books somewhere, not to add what you heard on the radio or on the TV or on the internet, and just add something to the Bible that's not there. Because the Bible never uses this phrase repent of your sins, never even uses it. And people try to take you to proof tech to say, well, it teaches, and then they take you to verses that say repent. They don't say repent of your sins. And we know that repentance cannot automatically always on its own be referring to sin, because the person repented the most in the Bible is God himself, and God is without sin, and we know that repenting of your sins cannot be part of salvation because God defines someone turning from their evil way as works, and we know that works is not part of salvation. So now

12:35 those two points he made based off looking at Versus in the Old Testament. Basically, his argument is the King James over and over never says God repented, and he's arguing from that, well, then that means repentance is not always a turn from sin, because clearly God would not be repenting and that means turning from sin. Now we looked at the Hebrew word. I don't like the fact that the King j translators translated repentant because I don't think that really captures the idea and leads to confusion. But I understand. Then he went to the book of Jonah where God talks about the men repenting are the men turning from their wicked ways? And God refers to it as their works, meaning that when we turn from our works, that are when we turn from our wicked ways, it's a work we do. So he's like, well, that repentance can't be a part of salvation. Of turning away from our wicked ways is something we do, then it would be adding works to salvation. So I understood his argument. You could, we could push back or you know, I understand how the the word reform world would be like, no, repentance is turning from our wicked ways, turning from our wicked works. But it's not our work. It's a work God does. And he would go to Jonah and say, but God right here says no, it's their work. So well, they said, well that was their repentance.

13:52 Is not like the New Testament repentance, because the New Testament repentance is the work God does so that you turn from your sin. Well, the only problem in the reform can is well, okay, if it's a work God does, then the repentance should be perfect, permanent, definitive, definite, and therefore we should never sin again because it's literally repentance God gave me. God gave me repentance, and it means a turning from sin, then it should be perfect because God wouldn't give me an end perfect form of repentance. See that leads to all kinds of difficulties and problems. All right, again, I tried to kind of put forth a third idea. I know, I kind of look, whenever you're doing review, so what happens someone will come into part two and go, well, you didn't explain this, and go listen to part one. There was far greater explanation. But we want to move forward to see how he's going to define repentance, because I think the entire argument really comes down to that. Let's see what he's going to do. We talked about the misconception of repentance. I hope that that's helped clear up some of those misconceptions that repentance is not always referring to and that repenting of your sins cannot be part of salvation because it's adding work salvation.

15:05 But now let's talk about the definition of repentance. So what does the Bible actually mean when it's using the word repent or repenting or repentance or repentance. Go back to Jonah chapter three if you would, Jonah chapter three. I get to look down at verse number nine again. Jonah chapter three and verse nine we saw the misconception of repentance. But now let's look at the definition of repentance. And when I say the definition of repentance. I mean a biblical definition. What does the Bible actually say? Not what do Bible collogists teach, not what do seminaries teach? Not what do commentaries say? Not what do theologians say, not what do theological studies say? But what does the Bible say? Lookause back does the Bible is our boss? The Bible should be the final authority of all matters in faith and practice. And the question we should always be asked is this, what does the Bible say?

16:03 Just a reminder, I love when pastors say that you should be listening to theologians. You shouldn't be listening to pastors. You should only be looking at what the Bible says, as the pastor is preaching and people are listening to him. But I have to point that out. It's always kind of like we should only listen to the Bible. So the why am I listening to any preachers? Right? Don't listen to theologians, don't listen to commentaries. The Bible is the final boss. But make sure you understand the final boss that utuly has a negative connotation when you think of it and video game terminology. All right, but I digress, All right, But the boss. The final authority should be the Bible, the Word of God. Let's make sure this is. It drives me crazy when everyone says this. Because everyone makes that claim. Those who are who hold one view of repentance would say the Bible is the final authority. We got our conclusion about repentance from the Bible. People who hold to an absolutely completely opposite view of repentance will say we got our conclusion from the Bible. The people who believe baptism is by immersion only for believers say we got it from the Bible. The people who baptize babies and at eight days of age will say we got it from the Bible. Everyone says they got everything from the Bible, So saying we got it from the Bible, everyone makes that claim. Everyone makes that claim.

17:23 Charismatics make that claim, Baptists make that claim. Church of Christ makes that claim. Presbyterians make that claim, Lutherans make that claim. I can go on in hundreds thousands of different groups and denominations, all claiming the Bible is the final authority and all coming to radically different conclusions. So when just because someone has a different conclusion doesn't mean that they are not looking to the Bible. The issue is, obviously, after two thousand years of church history, nobody can agree on how to interpret the Bible. Okay, that's the issue. So it's interesting that he's got to try to define repentance going to Jonah chapter three. I just find it interesting because is he going to use the Hebrew word here? Because I'm assuming what he's getting ready to do is he's going to quote Is he gonna quote nine? I wonder is he gonna quote verse ten? All right, let's see where he goes, because this is interesting. I figured he would go to Matthew, look at the first place the word repent is used, and then look up the Greek word matina.

18:30 Oh, I think, is how you say it? And matinaeo. Yeah, And I'm not looking at the Greek word right now, and go, okay, this is what the Greek word means, primarily a change of mind. We did that in the last in the last episode. I thought he would go immediately to the New Testament definition of repentance. But he's going to start in Jonah, which is interesting. It's interesting. Let's just see how he's going to build his definition of repentance, or as he would say the Bible's definition of repentance. Because we don't listen to pastors, we don't listen to theolo, we don't listen to commentaries. We go to the Bible. All right, let's see how what he sees the Bible as giving the definition. Let's see we can find it. So what does the Bible say about repentance? How does the Bible define repentance? We talked about the misconception of repentance. Let's talk about the definition of repentance. And there are two things that you need to understand when it comes to how the Bible defines repentance.

19:25 The first is this, According to the Bible, the word repent means to turn. Well, we talked about that. I want you to see it here in Jonah chapter three. Look in verse nine. Who can tell if God will notes this phrase turn and repent, turn and repent. Now this is weird because he's defining repent from Jonah three p. Nine. If God will turn and relent and turn away from his fierce anger. Now, remember we looked up that Hebrew word, the Hebrew word, Let's go back to it. All right, this is gonna now. Now I'm gonna get a little Okay, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to hit the microphone. Now I'm gonna get a little frustrated here, right, because he's just okay, I think, I think sometimes I get I'm well, maybe this comes down to an issue in hermoneutics. I guess if you're KJV only, then you don't look to the Greek or Hebrew. So because the King James translators you translated a word repent, then he's just going to say, well, then this is the definition of repentance to turn away, all right, Well, but the Hebrew word here, Okay, hang on Hebrew word here?

20:45 If I can go to Jonah chapter three, verse nine, and now the Hebrew word because the Hebrew word that is translated repent by the King James translators, is this Hebrew word? We looked at it. I don't know how many times in the last episode Strong's age fifty one sixty two. Nothm not camm now, not him. Just make sure to understand it's used one hundred and eight times. The strongest definition is not to turn and anyway. It's to sigh, it's to breathe strongly. It's to be sorry, uh, to pity, to console to rue, to to avenge, to comfort, to ease. That that I mean, there's nothing here about to turn.

21:32 In fact, the outline of Biblical uses to be sorry, to console oneself, repent, regret, comfort, be comforted, to be sorry, be moved, to pity, to have compassion, to be sorry, ruse, suffer grief, repent, to comfort oneself, be comforted, to comfort oneself, ease oneself, to comfort, to console, to be comforted, to be sorry, to have compassion. Like there's nothing here. I don't think the word turn shows up anywhere. He's like it means to turn away. No, the Hebrew word does not mean turn away. It does not mean that in any way, shape or form. It does not. It means to be sorry, but mostly to comfort, to comfort, to comfort, to be comforted, to comfort oneself, to have compassion. That does not say he's like it means to turn No, it doesn't. Okay. The Hebrew word there doesn't even come close to meaning that he relented. That's how it's translated in other translations. The King James may use the word repent.

22:38 I think it's I think it's detrimental. I think it's detrimental to using that word. The Bible serves at its own dictionary, and God will often You'll notice this in the Bible if you look for it, that God will often put two words that are synonyms next to each other in order to identify for us what those words mean, or what one of those words means, or what the definition is. And notice here the Bible says, who can tell if God will turn and repent? Why does it say that? Because the word repent means to turn? Who can tell? If God will turn and repent and look at it again, turn away from his fears anger that we perish? Not so, the Bible uses the word turn synonymously with the word repent. We saw it here in Jonah chapter three. Let me the word repent is a translation the Hebrew word that's translated repent by the King James translators.

23:41 Doesn't have anything to do with turn. Nothing. It's not being used. It's synonymous. In fact, the word turn here. I'm gonna go back to the actual Hebrew turn is the Hebrew word. Where is it? If I can find it? Oh, Oh, it's this one Strong's age seventy shoove shoove shoove actually means to turn. The one that's translated repent does not mean in any way, shape or form. Turn. The word that means turn is not the word repent. It's the word turn. The King James translators translate turn and relent. The turn is the word that would have be synonymous with repent or to turn. To turn means to turn. Relent doesn't mean to turn. Relent has nothing The Hebrew word translated relent there or repent there doesn't have anything to do with turn. This is this is gonna get maddening, like like if we can't even figure out what well the words are synonymous, according to what well you just made them synonymous. They come from two different Hebrew words that are not synonymous. Shove is not the same as not knock him or however you say the other Hebrew word. I can, I can look it up. So the word turn is this Hebrew word

25:17 Strong's age seventy shoove shoove shove, all right, that's that's the one that means turn, and it literally is translated turn because that's what it means. The next word which the King James refers to or translates as repent and hang on, let me go back here to it is this Hebrew word. Where is it this Hebrew word knock him Strong's age fifty one sixty two. Nahhmm, not him. I keep want to say, I don't know how I'm saying it. But not completely different to different Hebrew words, two completely different meanings. They are not synonymous. You can't just go to a Texas say these words are synonymous. They're completely different Hebrew words, well, completely different meanings. They're not synonymous. They may be connected, they may correlate somehow, but one is referring to the turn. The other one seems to refer to almost the emotion. To show two and other passages, go to Ezekiel chapter fourteen, Ezego chapter fourteen. You're there in Jonah. If you go backwards, you go past the book of Obadiah pass Amos Joel Josea Daniel into the book of Ezekiel Jonah Obadiah Amos Joel Joseah Daniel ezek If you're going backwards

26:49 e is Ego chapter fourteen. E is Ego chapter fourteen, and look at verse number six is Ego Chapter fourteen, and verse therefore say unto the house of Israel. Thus eith the Lord God repent. Look at it, and turn yourselves from your idols, and turn away your faces from all your abominations. Do you think of the coincidence that when God used the word repent, he also used the word turn Jonah three nine. Who can tell of God? Okay, now, let's do a little work on the Ezekiel fourteen six. Therefore, say to the house of Israel, thus says the Lord God, repent, turn away from your idols. All right, So let's go to the word repent here the word repent. Oh no, look now in this way, and Ezekiel, it's interesting, the word repent here is actually strong's h seventy shoove, shoove. It's actually shove, which actually means to turn. So here in Ezekiel, it clearly is now being it. Now now it says repent and turn. Now, let me go back to the Hebrew here, or back to the English. Now go to the intilinear all right, so repent and turn. It's so there, it's the same Greek word or the same Hebrew word. I can't I apologize. I'm getting frustrated trying to follow the logic here. So hey, you cannot compare this to Jonah. Jonah uses two different Hebrew words that are not synonymous. Who does

28:23 not mean the same thing here, It's the exact same Hebrew word repent repent basically, or shoove, shoove away from your idols, shoove, shoove away from your idols, repent, shoove, shove away from your idols. All right, it's the same, it is. These are not only synonymous, are identical? Okay? Either it's the same Hebrew word. That's not it. You can't how you can't compare this to Jonah. It's completely different Hebrew words completely, it's not the same. And why are they different? Because in Jonah you're referencing God. God is not turning away from any sin.

29:18 In fact, you've got to be very careful. God's not turning away. God's not changing his mind. That's why the word that's translated repent when referring to God is a completely different Hebrew term, because you've got to be very careful or you end up destroying God's sovereignty, his omniscience, and his immutability, his eternal decree. So it's a completely different Hebrew word. Shoove is literally the turning away. Now that but that's being used here to refer to Israel, not to God. God will turn and repent and turn away his fears anger, not he's he Gore fourteen six. Therefore say unto the House of Israel. Thus say the Lord God, repent and turn yourselves from your idols, and turn away your faces from all your abominations. The Bible is using these terms together because this is what the word mean. What does the word repent mean? It means to turn. Go to Ezico chapter eighteen.

30:18 You're there an EXeCO fourteen. Just slip over to e Zgo chapter eighteen, looking verse number thirty is Zco chapter eighteen and verse thirty. The Bible says, therefore, I will judge you, o house of Israel. Everyone according to his ways, saith the Lord God. Notice it. Repent and turn, repent and turn your okay, repent and turn in Ezekiel eighteen thirty. I bet you it's the same Hebrew word. Shoot. I could be wrong. Let me go to Ezekiuel. Go to Ezekiel. If I can find Ezekiel. Where is it there? It is Ezekiel eighteen. I think he said thirty Seequel eighteen thirty. All right, here we go. Let's see here the word repent. Yep, same same Hebrew terms. It's you already know it. It's the same Hebrew term, all right, which is Strong's Age seventy seven five, shoove shoove shoove. So the ones in Ezekiel that are not referencing God turning, but the people, it's a reference to the Hebrew word shoove shoove shoove, all right, telling Israel to turn from God is coming to Israel, telling them to do something, which is very much If we understand this, God over and over and over gave Israel law after law after law after law after law. Do this, don't do this,

31:51 turn from this, turn from that, turn from this. And they failed over and over and over and over and over because no one can keep God's law. It's a it's a law. They could not do it, all right. So, but I don't know why any him connecting this to the concept of the word the words that are translated, the times it's translated that God repented, that is that is not don't connect that when the translator is translated the word repent for God's action, It's a different Hebrew word. It's completely different. Hebrew term. Now, maybe at some point they're the same, but so far he's not given any indication where the same Hebrew word is used when it refers to God, quote unquote repenting. Whenever it speaks of God repenting, it's a completely different Hebrew term for cells from all your transgressions.

32:47 So iniquity shall not be your ruin. Here the Bible again is using these phrases together, repent and turn, repent and turn, turn and repent. Why because the word repent means to turn. By the way, I don't want to get ahead of myself. Because and it is true that that Hebrew word shove means to turn, all right, it means to turn. Even if you look at the strongest definition, well, the strong the strongest definition is is long. But it means to turn back, hence away literally or figuratively, return to the starting point, to retreat, to do, to break, build, circumcise, dig, to do anything, do evil, feed, lay down, lie down, lodge, make rejoice. I mean it would take me fifteen It would feel like it would take fifteen minutes to read everything there. You can look it up for yourself. But shove definitely has the idea to turn there we are in agreement. There he can continues to connect this to the Hebrew word that sometimes in the King James is translated repent and referencing to God. But that's a different Hebrew term, not the same. They are not synonymous. I don't know why I have it's bizarre that in two thousand, see, this is what drives me crazy sometimes about Hermoneutics and about churches, right because he's like, hey, don't listen to pastors, don't listen to the well, that's why you don't listen to

34:17 pastors at theologians, because right now he's giving us a complete misrepresentation of how the Hebrew text is actually constructed. And he's saying words are synonymous when they're completely different words that do not mean the same thing, completely different meanings. And he's conflating the understanding of the word show to the other Hebrew word that ri is translated repent and reference to God. It's not the same. I don't know why he's not under a catching on to that. We'll deal with this later on in the sermon, But he's ecual. Eighteen thirty doesn't use the phrase repent of your sins, but the concept is there. He says, repent and turn yours from all your transgressions. But please understand this, This is not talking about salvation. This is talking about the judgment of God coming upon a nation, and he's telling a nation to repent and turn yourselves from all your transgressions so God doesn't destroy. To understand that nations cannot be judged in the next world, so they must be judged in this world.

35:22 I always think it's funny when people want they want to debate with you the doctrine of salvation, when you've got clear books of the Bible, like I don't know the Book of John, who the Bible actually tells us. The Book of John actually tells us that the purpose of the Book of John was to teach us how to be saved. And it's the book that brings up the concept and the word believe more than any other book. But then people want to take you to Ezekiel to show you how you got to repent of your sister to be safe. Listen to me, Ezekiel's not where you want to be going for your gospel presentation. Ezekiel is an Old Testament book that's very difficult to understand, and it's Ezekiel dealing with the judgment of God coming upon nations, and he's telling the House of Israel repent and turn yourselves from all your transgressions. But I want you to notice now, I'm in complete agreement with him there that like Ezekiel is specifically referencing Israel, and I completely agree. I am in complete agreement. My only frustration so far, I'm in agreement with almost everything he said. I'm just very baffled and confused with him conflating the meaning of these words and calling them synonymous when it's different Hebrew words. He's not even looking up the Hebrew words in any way, shape or form. He's just saying repent means turn because it says repent and turn.

36:46 Well, okay, look up the two Hebrew terms. Just don't conflate that with the Joshua passage that is referring to God quote unquote repenting, because that is a different Hebrew term, that is not the same Hebrew word. Right then that Hebrew word means something completely different. So if you would have just went to Ezekiel left Joshua or Jonah. If I said Joshua, I apologize Jonah out of it, then Okay, then he could be making an argument. Hey, in ezekiel I repent here means to turn because it comes from the Hebrew word shove, which means to. I mean, it can mean a lot of things, but it's primarily talks about to turn, to turn, to turn, to turn to turn to turn. Now turning what what references? Now we can get into some important discussions here. Well, let's see where he takes this, all right, Hopefully he'll stop conflating it with the Jonah passage and then we can move forward. Other than that, I don't and I think that's just the result of King James only ism.

37:52 If you're King James only, you don't look at the Hebrew, you don't look at the Greek. You just look at the English translation. But I think it in many cases that that can be really miss put it this way. If you're only gonna look at the English translation, then just say, I say, based on the English that these words are synonymous, and I'm not going to look up the Hebrew that these words were translated from, because we believe the King James is the final authority and not the Hebrew that it came from. Like I mean, basically, you'd have to make some argument like that. But I think in this case you see the danger in doing that. That the word means to turn. According to the Bible, the word repent means to turn. Look, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm not gonna sit here and tell you well you need my theological experience. And look, I'm just gonna show you what the Bible says.

38:44 And when we want to know what a word means, we just look it up in the Bible and we let the Bible tell us what it means. We let the Bible define itself. I think it's clear. We can look at more passages. I won't take the time to do that, but I think it's clear you've made it clear that the word shoove used and this context means to turn. Let's not forget the word is used one thousand and sixty six times. Sometimes it's sometimes listen the word shove. Sometimes it's translated restore, Sometimes it's translated bring. Sometimes it's translated render, Sometimes it's translated answer. Sometimes it's translated recompense. Sometimes it's translated recover. Sometimes it's translated deliver. Sometimes it's translated withdraw. So shove used in this context means to turn. Yes, you've proven that shove in ezekiel means to turn. I don't know if you've proved what repentance means. You've proven that the Hebrew word shove when translated repent in this context and ezekiel means to turn. But the Hebrew word can be used a one hundred, well a lot of different ways, and it's used over a thousand times, So you can't just say it means to turn. No. Yeah, I don't understand this form of word

40:17 study. I don't know what this is. Hey, I'm gonna go the word the word is here, but that word comes from a Hebrew term. All right, I'm getting really confused. Okay, all right, let's see where this goes though. All right, let's see where this goes here. The word repent means to turn. Who can tell if God will turn and repent and turn away his and turn away from his ear's anger that we perish on? See, he went right back to Jonah, who knows if God will turn and repent? Will God turn shoove and repent? That does not that means to relent. It means, well, you could you could be translated a lot of different ways. That's a completely different Hebrew word. He's I don't know why he can continue to go to Jonah and conflate it again.

41:07 Shove means to turn. Remember that if we go back to Jonah, oh man, this is this is really going to start bothering me. We go back to Jonah, chapter three, verse nine, Who can tell if God will turn and repent turn is shove? Remember repent is Remember does everyone know it? Come on? At this point, y'all should be able to say it better than I can. Right, Repent is not sham nothm And remember not ham has nothing to do with turning. It's to be sorry, it's to console, it's regret, comfort comforted, to be sorry, be moved, to pity, have compassion, to be sorry, to comfort oneself, be comforted, to comfort oneself is oneself to comfort, to console, be comforted, be consoled, to be sorry, to have compassion. Right, it's used. It's used one hundred and eight times, fifty seven times.

42:02 It's translated comfort forty one times, repent, nineteen times, comforter, and one time ease. So most of the usage has something to do with comfort. Nothing and not one time? Does it mean urn? Not one time? So the King James translators translate a word repent that does not mean turn, and you say repentance means turn because the word turn comes before the word repent and Jonah three nine, but the word turn is a completely different Hebrew word that actually means turn. I don't look the whole the whole thing makes it's so convoluted. Oh this this, this was going so good, This was going so good. I am baffled by how he ended up here.

42:47 I don't even understand this. And he can mock commentaries and theologians and we don't need any of them. Okay, well maybe you don't need theologians, maybe you don't need commentary. But do you think maybe you need to know the into the Hebrew? Maybe? Do you think maybe if you're gonna start looking at the definition of words and do some type of many words study, you would go through the basic steps used in a word study. I mean, I could teach everyone the word study Bible study method, if everyone needs me to do that. You gotta know the definition of the words have meanings, but you got to know where. And the translators take Hebrew words and translated them into English. The meaning of those Hebrew words should be the very key to understanding what was understood by the what is supposed to be understood by the English words. When the King James translators translated that God would repent and Jonah three and nine speaking of God repenting, they did not use the Hebrew word show. They used a completely different word that has nothing to do with turning or changing your mind, has nothing to do with that. It's more about an emotion. Therefore, say into the House of Israel, thus state the Lord God repent, and turn yourselves from your idols, and turn away your faces from all your abominations. Therefore I would judge you, o House of Israel, everyone according to his way, state the Lord God repent

44:22 and turn yourselves from all your transgressions, so iniquity shall not be your ruin. Let me just give you one more, because you say you might say, well, all those are Old Testament passages. Okay, Well, let's just look at one in the New Testament. Go to Luke chapter seventeen. If you would Luke chapter seventeen. If you start at the beginning of the New Testament, Matthew, you have Matthew Mark Luke Luke chapter seventeen. Luke Chapter seventeen and verse number four. Luke seventeen and verse four knows what the Bible says. And again this verse I'm showing you is not about salvation. It's actually about a brother sitting against another brother and how you ought to forgive him Luke seventeen four. And if he trespass against these seven times in a day, and seven times in a day, look at the words turn again to thee saying I repent, thou shalt forgive him. And I'm not preaching on the subject of forgiveness. I just want you to notice here that the Bible is using the word turn. It's saying if he turns again to THEE and says saying I repent, why would he say I repent when he turned, because that's what the word means. The word repent means to turn.

45:36 Okay, let's see if this holds up. All right, So I'm back to the antilinear. All right. Let's see here, all right, So I'm looking at the antillinear, all right? Turn again? Is this Greek word? All right? If I said, Hebrew, I apologize Greek word when you're doing this in real time, like you're really trying to react to this in real time just so that everyone understand. And I know this is mainly for my own pride, in my own ego, so because I just don't want to look completely foolish when you're trying to listen to this and respond in real time. Because remember when I do reviews, I don't listen first. So I'm trying to do all the work in real time and trying to keep it all straight. It's not like I can sit here and write down the Hebrew like if I did this in advance, I'd be like, well, everyone, here's the Hebrew word. Here's I'm looking up the Hebrew word and Greek words and real time and trying to remember them as I'm also listening to him, trying to process where I'm going. So sometimes it can get a little I hope I'm making it very clear because I'm just I'm trying to make clear what I feel he's completely making all convoluted, and he's he's drawing conclusions that just are not are crazy in this, and he's saying words are synonymous when they're completely different words, All kinds of craziness here. But so in Luke, we're in the Greek intilinear, the Greek intilinear, and so he wants to somehow it sounds like flight the ideas again see Luke seventeen, which verse was at verse four. And if he trespasses against these seven times

47:07 in a day, and seven times in a day, turn again to thee saying I repent. He's saying the turn again, and repent is basically repent means turn away or turn again. Well, let's see if that holds true. The word turn come going to the anti linear. So turn again is from this Greek word, this Greek word Strong's g nineteen ninety four epis threefol epis threefol epistretfo epistrepho. He says it a little different than mine. I'm from Texas a right epistretfho. Now this one is used thirty nine times. It means turn there, we go, be converted, return, turn about, turn again. All right. It means to revert, literally figured it toive morley, come go again, convert, turn about again, turn on the outline of biblical usage, to turn two, to cause, to return, to turn to oneself, to turn to one's self about to return about turn, it means the turn. It means the turn. So when it says and if he says against you, if he says against you, I mean let me go read it from the King James. If he says against you seven times in a day, and seven times in a day, turns again to the well, turn again means turn. Now he says, I repent. Now what is the word repent? The word repent, The word repent here is a completely different word strong g thirty three forty meta ao meta

48:43 ao, metoni ao, metonieo now metani ao is the one that means change mind. It doesn't mean turn. It means change one's mind. So if we read it this way seventeen four Luke, seventeen four. And if he says against you seven times a day, and seven times in a day, returns to you or turns to you saying I repent, you shall forgive him. So we could say seven times in a day means he just turns back to you. He comes back to you. So the person who sinned against you seven times turns around, comes back to you. So that has nothing to do with repenting. He just turns and comes back to you and says, hey, I've repented. I've changed my mind. I've changed my mind about what happened. I'm acknowledging it was wrong. You forgive him. He he's conflating the turning with the repenting. It's completely different Greek words. The turning means just even in the text, he's just turning back to the person he's sinned against. Hey, I'm coming back to you. I'm turning back to you, and I says physically walking right back up to you, going hey, I've repented, I've changed my mind about my behavior. Because the methanieo means to change. Once he's conflating the turning what they're repenting. The turning just means they turned back, they came back to you. Listen to again the way it's written in the New King James. And if he sends against you seven times in a day, uh, and seven times in a

50:15 day returns to you, that doesn't have anything to do with repenting. This is maddening. This is literally maddening. This is why people in the pew have to know how to do word studies. You have to know how to do word studies. You've got to be able to you can I agree with him. Don't listen to pastors, don't listen to him, don't listen to me. But all we're doing is like, no, he's he's completely misreading that verse. They're returning to the turning is they're just turning back to you. This is not them repenting. And then he says, I repent, I'm changing my mind about my behavior about whatever. Go to First Kings, chapter eight if you would, in the Old Testament, First Kings, chapter eight in the Old Testament, if you can find those one and two books that are all clustered together, First and Second Samuel, First and Second Kings, First and Second Chronicles, find First Kings chapter eight, and look, this is something that we need to nail down and be clear about and understand what the Bible teaches, because the Bible tells us that we need to earnestly contend for the faith. You're absolutely right, this is something we need to nail down and something we need to be clear about. The only problem is this is not being clear. You're taking terms and putting terms together that come

51:45 from completely different Hebrew words and different Greek words. They're not synonymous. They don't mean the same thing. Man, I'm losing my mind here, okay, and we need to earnestly contend for the faith I knowing what words mean and not making reference to work. See, this is why in two thousand years of church history. This is why, in two thousand years of church history, here in twenty twenty four, we still can't agree on the definition of repentance. This is why this is your watching take place in real time. This was going so well this I was so happy about the first hour of hour plus of review. Now we're fast approaching the second hour review and now I'm just getting really frustrated. So let's see, he's in first Kings eight. What do you think? Do you think that this is good?

52:37 Is he going to conflate terms again? Is he going to conflate two different Hebrew words? What do you think? What do you think what he did in Luke seventeen is crazy? That turning has nothing to do with repenting. That's just literally someone turning back coming back to you to talk, Hey, I know I've sinned against you, Like you know, I just send against you. Now I come right back to you, going hey, you know, hey, I've repented. When he comes right back saying, hey, that coming back is not turning from anything other than physically coming back to you. I don't know how you can conflate that with the word repent there, it's not the same, completely different Greek words. All right, let's see what happens in First Kings. Now we're going to be back in the Hebrew and the attacks on the doctrines of salvation and the attempts to try to muddy the waters of salvation are literally sending people to hell. People need to understand what does the Bible say? What does the Bible teach? So we're talking about the definition of repentance, what does the word repentance mean. The word repent means to turn in a very basic way, it means to turn.

53:49 But I want you to notice that there's another idea that goes along with this word. I can't believe he's saying repent in the New Testament the meta ieo means to turn when it literally means a change of mind. Like that is driving me crazy. And he and his way of making metanieo mean to turn is because he conflated a completely different Greek word with metanio. That is insane. That I uh that bothers me so much. I I honestly don't know how people in the Pew can ever hope to know anything. I really don't.

54:29 I just I really I I've almost given up the fact that anybody can know anything. I really don't. Two thousand years of church history and we still can't figure this out. We can't even come close to figuring this out. I I. But let's maybe first Kings, He's about to fix it all and it's all going to make sense. And it is this to change your mind, all right? I agree? The other the other concept is to change your mind. You're absolutely right. You had it handed to you in Luke seventeen. Meant to niao means to change your mind. It was right there. But instead of making repent change your mind, you made it to turn, based off another Greek word that didn't even mean to turn in a spiritual sense. It just mean to physically turn and come back to the person whom you've sinned against. I don't understand. And the word repent you made, you said was the word turn, but you but the word that actually was translated repent and Jonah and then the other Old Testament passages doesn't mean to turn. It's a completely different Hebrew word. Oh man, Okay, at least he's got the change of mind concept. All right, let's see he's gonna get the change of mind from First Kings. I'm so worried about what's going to happen here. But let's see the idea of repentance is actually something that happens in your heart. See, because people say, well,

55:59 yeah, the word repent means to turn. It means you were going in one direction, you know, now you start going in another direction. But that's not what the Bible says. Now, sometimes it'll produce that, But what the Bible actually teaches is that repentance is a turn in your heart. It's a turn in your mind. What the word actually means is to change your mind. Let me just give you a couple of examples. First Kings, chapter eight. Look at verse forty six. First Kings, eight forty six. Notice what Solomon says. He says he's praying to God, and he's praying to God about the people. For the people. He says, if they sin against thee, for there is no man that sinneth not, and I'll be angry with them and deliver them to the enemy, so that they carry them away captives, onto the land of the enemy far or near.

56:52 Look at verse forty seven. Yet, if they shall mark this word in your Bible bethink. Yet, if they shall bethink themselves in the land whither they were carried captives, and mark this one in your bible repent. I want you to notice that the Bible is using the word bethink and the word repent synonymously. Okay, So here we go one Kings eighteen forty six. All right, So what when they sin against you? For there is no one who does not sin? I do love that phrase. And you become angry with them and deliver them to the enemy, and they take them captive to the land of the enemy, far or near. Yet when they come to themselves and the land where they were carried captive and repent and make supplication to you, I'm reading from the new King James. Now what he's doing. He's reading from the King James. Let me go read from the King James, eighteen forty seven. Yet, if they shall bethink themselves and the land whether they were carried captive and repent. Now he's saying these two words are synonymous bethink. The idea of bethink themselves and repent is synonymous.

58:10 All right, he's making that synonymous claim again. Well, guess what in this case, something very very interesting takes place if bethink, they shall guess what Hebrew word it is? Strong's h. Seventy seven five shoove, shoove, shoove. This is good, this is hilarious. Okay. And now the word repent here is the Hebrew word? Can anybody guess what the Hebrew word is here? Can you guess? He guess it is Strong's h. Seventy seven five shoove shoove. No. Earlier he was saying shoove what means to turn to turn? Now he wants to say shove simply means to change your mind. But the Hebrew word shove here literally means to turn. Oh man, hey, I don't even know. I can't even follow this word study method. Like he doesn't realize I don't understand what he's doing. I don't, I am. I'm getting frustrated now now I'm getting frustrated. All right. So and in First Kings eight forty seven, all right, I'm going back to the King James. Right, So in First Kings eight forty seven. And yet if they shall bethink themselves, bethink themselves, the new

59:42 King James translates bethink themselves. Guess how they handle it when they come to themselves in the land, When they come to themselves, well, the Hebrew word there's when they return to themselves, or they turn to themselves, or they they something happens. And then and the land where they were carried captive and repent and make supplication to you. The repent and the bethink themselves is the same thing. But he's ain't. Bethink themselves means to change your mind. But Shuve doesn't have the idea of changing mind. Shove has the idea of turning. It's the same Hebrew word. And I bet I mean, in fact, let me let me look at here. I bet, let me let me. I'm gonna look at every English translation I can find.

1:00:31 I'm gonna look at every English translation I can find. First, Kings, we're in chapter eight forty seven. Yeah, and if they change, and if they have a change of heart, and the land uh uh. But in the land they might turn to you in repentance. If they turn their heart and the land to which they have been carried captive and repent. See the other translations have this as turn, turn if they turn and repent what he was trying to argue in the other passages. Really, this passage supports his previous argument. His previous argument made no sense because it was different Hebrew words. This case his argument that he's now arguing against. But that's the same Hebrew word. This is the idea turn turn, Oh man, I don't just like it. Use the word repent and turn now it's we can add another synonym, and is this word bethink yet if they shall bethink themselves in the land whether they were carried captives and repent, and makes application unto thee in the land of them that carried them captives, saying we have sin and have done perversely, we have committed wickedness this world. We think is an older word that we don't use too often today. But the definition biblically,

1:02:04 the Biblical definition of the word we think is to return, to turn, to reconsider in your heart or in your mind. Yeah, because it's the Hebrew word. Shoot, it's the Hebrew word that means turn. You said it meant change of mind. The Hebrew word here doesn't mean change of mind. It means the turn. Oh, and now he gives a definition that means oh, he said it meant change of mind. Now he literally gives a definition that has to turn. Oh. Man, man, man, man, man man. Okay, all I can do now is just let that we're over an hour. I can just I'm just gonna try to follow this because I am so this is so crazy trying to follow this, like I don't understan stand, like this is crazy to I just I am so confused like it. So here's all I'm gonna saying. Look, if the people, if they sin against THEE, for there is no man that sin is not, and they'll be angry with them and deliver them to the enemy, so that they carry them, so that they carry them away captives, onto the land of the enemy far or near. Yet, if they shall bethink themselves in the land whether they were carried captives, and repent and make supplication unto THEE in the land of them that carry them captives, saying

1:03:36 we have sin and have done perversely, we have committed wickedness. What is the Bible telling us here when it says be thinking it says, if they reconsider, if they change their mind, if they the word think is in the word bethink, if they change the way they're thinking about something, and they repent, and they turn where in their heart in the mine. And Solomon is saying, here there are supplications help them. Let me give you another example. Go to Second Chronicles, chapter six. You're there in First Kings. You're going past Second Kings. Okay, uh okay. I was looking, all right, I was trying to look at he it's weird.

1:04:28 He he's he's, he's. He kind of gave the definition of the Hebrew word shove, and then he tried to give a definition of the word bethink. And I'm so confused here in what he's doing. I'm just gonna I'm just gonna let him go to the next passage. This is getting really i I'm at this point, I don't even really understand where he's going. You're definitely if you took his definition of repentance, I think you're gonna be all confused, because he's he's conflated terms. He's conflated words that are any saying things are synonymous that are not synonymous. They're completely different. Hebrew words. And then when he was in a passage where he literally could have demonstrated repentance means a change of mind meton not ao, he completely skipped the Greek word.

1:05:14 Then he runs back to the Old Testament. Then he says, well, these words are synonymous. Well, they're actually synonymous, but then he makes them synonymous of something that's not what the actual definition of the Hebrew word is. It's so weird, like let's say word he does here in Chronicles past First Chronicles into Second Chronicles. Second Chronicles, chapter six, the definition of the word repentance is to turn, and it is to change your mind. Second Chronicles, chapter six, verse thirty seven. According to the Bible, the word repent means to turn, and according to the Bible, repent means to change your mind. Let me just give you another example, Second Chronicle six, verse thirty seven. Yet, if they look at the word bethink, Yet, if they bethink themselves in the land, whether they are carried captive, and don't miss it, look at the word turn. Notice how these words are being used. Okay, all right now, oh man, this is even gonna get more complicated. Second Chronicle, six point thirty seven. Yet when they come to themselves in the land where they were carried.

1:06:29 All right, he's reading it from the King James. Let me go to the King James. Okay, yet, if they bethink themselves in the land, now this bethink all right, I'm gonna go back to verse thirty seven, go back to the antell in here is a completely different Hebrew word. All right, This one is Strong's h four thirteen al al and when in construct l l Okay, Now, hang on, I'm trying to This gets really confusing. Okay, wait, so yet if they bethink themselves, that's all that entire phrase they if think yet themselves, that entire phrase comes from that Hebrew word l, which means too toward, into toward direction against concerning regard according this Strong's definition, denoting motion towards, but occasionally used of a position. Oh, I mean, I don't know where I like.

1:07:31 But because what he does is bethink themselves and carried captive and turn and pray, He's like, hey, hey see, it's it's that he's making them the same. But the turn there, the turn is I guarantee, a completely different Greek word or a Hebrew word completely turn. Well, guess what turn is. We know what turn is. We know what it is. Strong's h seventy seven five. Shoove, shove, it's shove. So the turn is shove, which we know. We've seen that now one hundred times. But the bethink, he keeps trying to connect shove to bethink. It's not the same thing. It's completely different. Hebrew word. I am losing my mind here. I'm gonna read it from the King James. Yet, when they come to themselves in the land where they were carried captive and repent or turn and make supplication. Now, okay, let's just see what he does. Let's just see what he does. Yet, if they bethink themselves in land, whether they are carried away captive. Yet, if they bethink themselves in land, whether they are carried captive, and turn and pray unto thee in the land of their captivit he's saying, we have sin, we have done amiss, we have dealt wickedly. So it's clear the wood repent means to turn, and the word repent means to be think, And the

1:09:01 word we think means to turn in your heart, to turn in your mind. We would say it means to change your mind. So what is the definition of repentance. It is a turn in your mind. It is a change of mind. Now this is bizarre because in reality me and him believe the same thing. Repentance is a change of mind. When it comes to salvation, repentance is a change of mind. It's dealing when you're dealing with salvation. Metanio is dealing with salvation. It's a change of mind, which is required for salvation. You have to change your mind for salvation. But he says it's not a requirement for salvation. You have to change your mind for salvation, or you would never go for mind belief to believe. You would never say, well, now, hey, I didn't think I was a sinner, but I'm a sinner. Hey I didn't believe in Jesus dying for my sins, but now I do. And if you say it's a change of mind, then it would have to be a requirement for salvation.

1:10:06 The weird thing is we kind of come to the same conclusion. How he got there is that I don't even understand that he's making That is crazy how he got there. But at least we're somewhat on the same page, but now I'm confused why he says it's not requirement for salvation. Go to Matthew chapter twenty one if you wouldn't Matthew twenty one. I want to be very clear about what the Bible teaches about these things, because I want you to understand what repentance is and what it is that we're supposed to do with this concept of repentance. So we talked about the misconception of repentance and the wrong teaching of repentance because we need to just clear that up. Telling people that repentance is always in reference to repenting of your sins is wrong. It is an error that makes God a sinner because God repents more than anyone else in the Bible, and telling people that they have to repent of their sins in order to be saved is an error, and it is wrong because it is adding works to salvation, because when somebody turns from their evil way, God refers to that as works. If you define repentance as a turning away, but you said repentance is a turn in your mind, then it would be required for salvation. Right. Then we talked about the definition of repentance.

1:11:41 The definition of repentance. According to the Bible, the word repent means to turn, and according to the Bible, the word repent means to be think or to turn in your heart, to turn in your mind. We would say to change your mind. That's what repent means. And by the way, isn't that the application we see when God repents? I mean Genesis six, he looks down on the earth and it repentes God that he made men. He's grieved. The Bible says, what does that mean? He's regretting it. He changes his mind. He's like, ah, I should have done this, and then he oh, now we're getting some serious problems. If you say God changes his mind, you gotta be very careful. You've got to articulate what that means. That would destroy the omniscience of God, that would destroy his eternal decrees, that would destroy his providence. That's why the Hebrew word when it says God repented, is not change your mind.

1:12:39 It's not turn. It's a completely different Hebrew word that should not be translated repent. It's a completely different Hebrew word. What is so complicated here? Now there may be a case where he says God repented and hiss us that Hebrew word and we would have to deal with it to exempt he gave. It's a completely different Hebrew word. That does not mean turn or change your mind. It expresses the emotion, not oh man, I don't understand. And now you're gonna say God changes his mind. How does an omission God change his mind? Is God is not so God is? Are you saying he's not immutable? Like, I don't even understand. Now this has gone so far off the rails now, I don't even know where this is going.

1:13:30 Kills all of them except for noble, And there's other times when he's going to bring judgment upon someone, but then he repented of the evil that he was going to do. He was going to destroy them, but then because they did something, they repented, they did the right thing. Then he changes his mind and chooses not to judge them, chooses not to destroy them. That's what the word means. So now that we understand that is not what the word means, you've yet to give me an example in the Old Testament where the King James translators use the word repentance to God, where the Hebrew word means that it's a different Hebrew word. It's not shove what oh man, this okay, he's in Matthew. We'll see what happens here.

1:14:30 We'll see what happens here. Stand the definition of repentance. Let's talk about the application of repentance. How does this actually apply to us in the Bible. And there's two ways that we can apply this, and I'd like to explain both of them. One is before salvation and one is after salvation. What is the application of repentance before salvation? The application of repentance before salvation? Is this? Because remember, the word repent needs to turn to change your mind, to be think, to change in your heart, changing your mind. When it comes to salvation, what is the thing that condemns you? What is the thing that saves you? Well? The Bible is clear about the fact that we are saved by believing on the Lord Jesus Christ.

1:15:18 Remember Paul told the Philippian jailer, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved. Whosover believeth on the Son hath everlasting life. He that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him. So what saves you believing on the Lord Jesus Christ, what condemns you not believing? So when it comes to repentance in regards to salvation, before salvation, repentance is to turn from unbelief to belief. Amen. Therefore it's essential for salvation. Let me just prove that to you in the Bible. It's very clear, because remember our repent of this repent of your sins. Friends out there are repent of your sins. Heretics out there. They like to take us to all these verses in the New Testament where it just says repent, repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand, doesn't prove anything. But you know that there are some other clear verses that tell you exactly what they meant by that. Matthew twenty one. Look at verse thirty two. Matthew twenty one, thirty two, For John came unto you. This is Jesus speaking to the Pharisees, and he's referring back to what it is that John the Baptist had preached. He says, for John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him.

1:16:51 Not so what does Jesus say that the Pharisees fail to do with the preaching of John John the Baptists, For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and he believed him. Not what did they not do? They did not believe him? He believed him not. Then he contrasts that, he says, but the Publicans and the Harlots believed him. So he says, you didn't believe him, But then there's another group that didn't believe him. So look, Jesus is being very clear. What's the opposite of the Pharisees. The Pharisees did not believe and the opposite of that is that the Publicans and the Harlotz did believe. Here's what's interesting about that. The Pharisees were these religious people that prided themselves on how holy they were, while the Publicans and the Harlots are known as sinful people. But yet the Pharisees believed him, not the Publicans and Harlots believed him. Look at the last part of Matthew twenty one. Actually, just look at the whole verse just to get the context. Mat He twenty one thirty two. For John came unto you. This is Jesus speaking for John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and he believed them not, But the publicans in the harlest believed him, and ye when he had seen it. He's talking to the Pharisees.

1:18:15 When you saw that the publicans in the hardest believed him, and he when he had seen it. Look what he says, repented not afterward that ye might believe him. What is Jesus rebuking the Pharisees for. He's rebuking them for not repenting because they did not believe. Ye believed him not, And he says, if you would have repented, that would have caused you to believe repented not afterward, that ye might believe him. If they would have repented, like Jesus is encouraging them to do, they would have turned or gone from believe him not to believe him, which would make repentance essential for salvation. Do you understand that's not complicated. What does somebody have to do if they want to be saved? They have to go from unbelief or from a false belief and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. You need to change your mind, which is repent, so repentance is essential for salvation.

1:19:29 You can't say repentance is not necessary for salvation and then say repentance as a change of mind, where you change your mind and you move from unbelief to believe, because then that makes it essential for salvation. When it comes to repentance and salvation, it's turning from unbelief or false belief to faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. But where is it saying here that you got to stop sinning? In fact, wouldn't it make more sense that if repentance just meant stop sinning, that he would tell the publicans and the harlots, look, you know what a harlot is. Wouldn't it make more sense that he's telling them, you really gotta knock this off, You really need to stop sitting.

1:20:10 He's telling the religious people you should have repented, repented from what from unbelief to belief. For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed them not, But the publicans and the harlots believed them, And ye, when he had seen it, repented not afterward that ye might believe. So according to Jesus, if they would have repented they would have gone from not believing to believing. Why Because the word repent means to turn or to change your mind. And they believed one thing they did not believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. They were trusting in their own religion to save them. And they have to turn change their mind about that and go from unbelief to believe. Me give you another example. Go to Mark chapter one.

1:20:56 You there in Matthew, just flip it and we'll stop there. And I agree with all of that. But the thing that bothers me, unless I misheard him and part one are in our part one, and this message in our first episode, in our first part of this review, I thought he said that repentance is not necessary for salvation. This would make repentance necessary for salvation. The issue is it's necessary for salvation. But and how you define it. It is absolutely necessary that you change your mind. It is absolutely necessary you go from unbelieved to believe. Therefore, repentance is necessary.

1:21:36 Repentance is not repentance as far as turning from your sin is not necessary for salvation. If you mean turning from actual the practice of sin, you're turning to God, You're turning from your sin to God for salvation from your sin, from the condemnation your sin brings. Wow, that that got way more complicated than it needed to be. He could have he could have demonstrated what repentance was a whole lot easier than that. He could have went to metan metana. Oh yeah, if I'm saying correctly. Uh, And he could have simply looked at the meaning of the Greek word and been able to demonstrate it. His way of trying to prove that was it falls apart because he was making words mean the same thing that don't mean the same thing, and then he ended up falling into saying God changes his mind. So what what?

1:22:35 In some ways I mean complete agreement, but then I mean complete disagreement with how he got there. That's a weird place to be. All right, we're gonna have to stop their word eighty two minutes, So that went way longer. I don't know what we're gonna do. Maybe we'll finish it, maybe you want you should go finish it though. The Repent of your sins confusion, The Repent of your sins confusion of Verity Baptist Church please look it up, and there's series rooted and grounded. I think it's the name of the series. Please look it up. The part that what they call part one is faith in works, Part two is the Repent of your sins confusion. Please look them up, listen to both of them. But wow, that was a that was a great lesson and how not to do word studies. That is a perfect example of how not to do a word study.

1:23:30 That is a perfect example of how not to do a word study. But what's fascinating He's he still kind of shows up primarily almost closely with the right answer, but he gave everyone complete, fraudulent and wrong information about those words in the Old Testament, and he stumbled into basically God changing his mind, which calls into question God's sovereignty, his omniscience everything. I think I said omnipotence early, but omniscions. Yeah, this is just his eternal decrees, his providence. I mean, there are all kinds of problems, but just remember on all the verses he gave where it says God repented, it did not use shoot or any Hebrew word that would speak of God turning or changing. The Hebrew word used there for God repenting. It describes almost an emotional, an emotion, a completely different idea as we've already looked at now multiple times. All right, I hope I kept that Greek, Hebrew, different Hebrew words, all of that in real time. But man, that was maybe you can tell me if you thought it was confusing, you can let me know. Hopefully I tried to bring clarity to what was confusing me in real time. I don't know if I accomplished that, but you can email me newsif at yahoo dot com, newsif at yahoo dot com. What frustrates me is the word study confusion really distracted from the good things he is

1:25:02 saying about repentance. He really is doing a good thing here and teaching some good ideas about what repentance is and isn't and how we got to be careful and how we utilize it in connection to salvation, some very very powerful concepts. But the whole word study there kind of just utterly derailed it. And that is really sad and really frustrating. But maybe we can we can try to find some way to put this all back together and do something positive with it. We will see, all right, Thanks for listening, and God bless