July 14, 2024
Psalm 83 Pt 9
We continue our study of Psalm 83
We continue our study of Psalm 83
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All right, I'm not gonna make
any promises how far we're going to get,
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but Psalm eighty three. I would
like to be done with this psalm
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someday, but it just keeps getting
crazier and crazier. Now, on Tuesday,
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for the podcast, I did a
podcast where I contemplated, possibly acknowledged
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that maybe I've got certain things wrong
about Psalm eighty three. By the time
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I went through kind of the explanation, I kind of then change my mind
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and kind of go back to my
original concept. But let me explain.
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So when we did our introduction to
Psalm eighty three, all right, well,
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we'll do some review, but right
now we'll just go back to the
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specific thing. When we did our
overview and kind of an introduction to Psawm
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eighty three, we classified some eighty
three from the type of psalm that it
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is. We placed it in a
certain category, and we referred to saw
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mayby three as a lament, but
as a specific kind of lament, which
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was a communal lament. All right. Now, when I first asked,
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Hey, what type of psalm this
is? I believe and now I gave
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credit to Sarah Danzler on the podcast
that it was an a precatory, a
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precatory and I went against that concept
well in that the series that sparked this
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entire study. It's now up to
part thirty two, thirty three. I
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don't even know anymore. I don't
even know how many parts they have now,
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and and that whole series is just
maddening. It's just so crazy.
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But I don't even remember what part
twenty four, part twenty five, part
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twenty six, I don't know.
It all blurs together. Now. They
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made an argument that it's an imprecatory
song, so I'm like, Okay,
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maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe it is an imprecatory psalm.
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Now, if it's a lament,
I think you interpret it one way.
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If it's an imprecatory psalm, I
think you have to interpret another way.
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So I kind of like, Okay, maybe I got it completely wrong,
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but I am going to continue to
argue that even though there is a section
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that has the nature of an imprecatory
psalm, the overall feeling I don't think
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reaches to that level. Now,
do everyone knows what an imprecatory psalm is?
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Okay? It doesn't. Okay,
Now we covered all the types of
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the psalms at the beginning, right, does anybody else know what an imprecatory
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psalm is? Yeah, Typically an
imprecatory psalm. You're calling for people to
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die, all right, You're calling
for death, You're calling for destruction upon
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everyone. And we will talk more
about that when we get to this section,
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but just so I can kind of
put forth my argument first, the
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beginning of the psalm and Psawm eighty
three to one, Oh God, do
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not remain quiet, do not be
silent, and Oh God, do not
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be steel for behold, your enemies
make an uproar. That that beginning,
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to me is more of a lament. They're crying, O God, where
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are you? Why are you not
doing anything? We don't need you to
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be silent, We need you to
intervene. Then the rest, as we
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have worked through now countless times.
The rest, he gives all the characteristics
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of the enemies. He kind of
gives their motivation, what they hope,
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what they're attempting to do, they're
forming confederacy. He identifies all the enemies
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from the tensive edom Ishmaelites. Moab
hagwrites Gibbel al Amelek Felistia with the inhabitants
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of tire Assyria. We went all
of that. Then, starting in verse
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nine through twelve, he asked God
to intervene in the present as he has
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in the past. And then when
you get to thirteen, that's where the
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real imprecatory part kind of kicks in
because he does ask asf here for some
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specific things. Right, Oh,
my God, make them like the whirling
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dust, like the chaff before the
wind, as the fire burns the wood,
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and as the flame sets the mountains
on fire. So pursue them with
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your tempest and frighten them with your
storm. Fill their faces with shame.
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How some of that has almost reaches
to the level of imprecatory, but it's
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the very next part that I think
seems to take it away from the imprecatory
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type, because typically in precatory,
you want your enemies destroy, you want
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him dead. Well, look what
he says in the very next line there
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in the ad verse sixteen, fill
their faces with shame, that they may
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seek your name of Lord. Well, if they're dead, they can't seek,
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right, Okay, Next seventeen,
let them be confounded and dismayed forever.
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Yes, yes, let them be
put to shame and perish, that
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they may verse eighteen, that they
may know, depending on which translation,
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that they may know that you,
whose name alone is the Lord, are
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the most high. So he wants
them to seek, he wants them to
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know. Now there's some very strong
language there, but it is poetic.
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So it is very hyperbolic, I
think, to some level. But it
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just feels like it falls just a
little short from being an imprecatory psalm.
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So I even though I look,
if you go with unprecatory, you have
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a certain kind of way of interpreting
it. If you go with a lament,
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you have a different way of going
with it. I argued with Ai
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for I don't know, forty five
minutes back and forth. One minute AI
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would say no, it's a lament. Then the next minute AI would be
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a like, no, it's in
precatory, and then it would be a
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well it has a little bit of
both. And then I'm like, well,
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if you interpret it as a lament, it's this way if you interpret
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it, And I was like okay, So even AI is confused. It
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doesn't know what to do. Nobody
knows what to do, which is just
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frustrating because if nobody can even identify
the top of Psalm. How on the
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world are we ever going to come
up with an interpretation? And as we've
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already seen, the interpretations of ssaw
Maty three are absolutely maddening. That's why
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we've been doing this right. Some
see saw Maty three as prophesying some future,
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future future war somewhere before the tribulation. It depends on who you listen
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to. Others try to connect it
to Second Chronicles twenty and it's just maddening.
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In fact, if you just look
at the MacArthur Study Bible, here's
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how he handles it. And it's
to me, I want to throw the
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MacArthur Study Bible across the room when
I read this. All right, So
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first he identifies it this way,
This Psalm a national lament, all right,
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Okay, there we go. All
right, so I said, I
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called it a communal limit, a
national limit. That's good, which includes
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prayer and imprecations. Okay, there
we go. There's an a precaratory part
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to it, all right. So
I'm in agreement here. This is good.
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This is good. This is good. It may be best studied with
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a map, since several individual national
enemies of Israel are noted, all right,
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I think that's true. We've got
to identify these different nations that are
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mentioned, and then look what he
says, Second Chronicles twenty may record the
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specific historical event prompting this psalm.
I don't understand. I don't understand.
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We're right back to the Second Chronicles
twenty situation. Who is so many three?
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Written by ace F? What did
we figure out about Second Chronicles twenty
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He's dead? Okay, I don't
understand. Why is it so maddening?
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Right? I don't get it.
I don't get it. All right,
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it says though some biblical students.
Now, now this even adds more,
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some biblical students believe that the nations
mentioned are only symbolic. And I'm like,
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well, okay, well, if
they're symbolic, then that has nothing
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to do with Second Chronicles twenty,
right, okay, So the Summus begs
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God to rescue Israel from its enemies, as he had done so in times
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past. Right, Well, to
me, it makes no sense because if
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it's I guess the reason why,
I don't know. I don't know why
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you would even want to go to
the symbolic route. I mean, it
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names how many look takes everyone got
their bible. Go to Psaw eighty three
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and just count every specific nation,
people groups, whatever that are mentioned.
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Let's just count them. Let's just
count them, all right. So we'll
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go to we'll go to the first
one is in what verse? We are
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one? Agree? Verse six?
All right? The tents of eat them.
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There's one number two Ishmaelites moem our
hagwrites hagarins depending on your translation,
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Gi ball am on a Malek Felicitia
tire Assyria. They have helped the children
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of Lot. Okay, how many? Is that just right there? Well,
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I mean if you call that you're
helping the children a lot, it's
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naming a specific person, is it
not? Okay? All right, so
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we're gonna count that. So that
gets us how many eleven? Okay?
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Deal with them as with Midian,
as with Cicera, as with Jabin at
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the brook of Kishan, who perished
at Indoor, who became his refuge on
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the earth. Make their nobles like
Oreb and zeb Yes, all their princes
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like Zeba and Zalmuna. Now you
can't come to a passage of scripture where
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there's like seventeen eighteen mentions a specific
people nations tribes. However, you would
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like to classify them and say,
oh, well, those are just symbolic
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of God's enemies. That's from a
hermoneutical standpoint. If I give up,
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like there's no way to interpret the
Bible anymore, Right, I mean when
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the author spins that, and not
only that, we know the psamas Asama
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of Asaf, that's naming a historical
individual, and then it names specific places.
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I don't know how you make that
symbolic. Look, I'm I'm just
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gonna I'm gonna just stand my ground
on these three things. This is what
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I'm gonna stand my groundown so far. Number one saw eighty three as a
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lament with a small section that almost
reaches the level of precatory. Almost,
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But it's a lament, right,
I think, I say, the only
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way I know to interpret it that
the people are crying out to God.
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They don't know where God is because
of the situations they are facing. It
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is a lament. But he got
that. I think that's just as we
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gotta be just absolutely dogmatic about that. Number two, it is not referencing
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Second Chronicles twenty. I just don't
know how. Look, and I understand
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I read sources. I even told
you the sermon that quoted that Asaf was
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called in and Second Chronicles twenty to
write the song. That's just I don't
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even know how that pastor stated that. I don't even know where that's coming
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from. Even when I went back
and forth with AAI times got even confused.
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Now I can understand why AI would
get confused, because it's pulling from
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where all the information out there and
guess what they went it pulling from all
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the information? What is it pulling
from? Confused information? All right?
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So which again, if AI can't
figure it out, the average person sitting
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in the pew, I don't know
how they're supposed to figure it out,
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even with someone who's got education education, I don't even know how to No,
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I don't know. It's just matting. But it's not Second Chronicles twenty.
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So it is a lament with a
small section that would almost rise to
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the level of an impregatory. Number
two has nothing to do with Second Chronicles
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twenty and number three. What else
do you think we can say dogmatically?
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There is nothing in this text zero
that would hint that these are symbolic enemies.
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They're naming real people, real situations
and fact I will argue when you
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get to starting in verse nine,
deal with them. As with Midian,
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as with Cicera, it's clearly referencing
actual events. Now we may be able
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to argue which event is being referenced, but in some cases it's obvious,
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right, So there's no way.
So one are the three things we can
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be dogmatic about. Number one,
it's a lament with a section that almost
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rises to the level of being in
precatory. Number two, it's not second
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chronicles twenty number three. These are
not symbolic enemies. These are real enemies.
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Right. Do you think there's anything
else we can be dogmatic about.
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I'm gonna be dogmatic. I'm gonna
add a fourth. We can be absolutely
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dogmatic. And my mind that this
is referencing an event at the time of
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Asaf. He is offering up a
lament of something was happening at that time,
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and we can somewhat then we have
somewhat of a timeframe, right y,
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Yeah, I mean he's referencing the
emotions. He's expressing the emotions of
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the people at that time, right, and that time we know that he
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was the quote unquote, we'll calle
worship leader during the time of David maybe
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into the a brief part into Solomon, so immediately we know exactly what time
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we're referencing. It's referencing an event
at that time. We can be dogmatic
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about that. Okay, does that
make sense? All right? We probably
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could add some more things, but
let's at least have those things written down,
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all right, so y'all can remember
them, all right, So let's
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go through them again. Number one, it's a lament with a section that
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almost reaches the level of in a
precatory prayer. Number two, it's not
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a reference. Second, Chronicles twenty
number three, These are not symbolic enemies
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and symbolic nations. These are real, all right, They're they they're historical.
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Next, these events happened during the
time of asaf Right. Those we
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can be dogmatic, have those down
right, because man, it's it's just
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it's maddening. Like I can't even
I don't even want to ever listen to
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another sermon and saw on ssaw eighty
three ever again in my life. Like
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if I'm ever in a church and
they say we're gonna look at Saw eighty
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three, I'm just gonna get up
and walk out. I can't take it
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anymore, like I don't get it. And for all those who who participated
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in the sermon's two point oh app
challenge and listen to a week worth of
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sermons on SSAW eighty three, you
gotta be just as as I would hope
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is as frustrated as I have been. And then with the even with the
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original series, I mean, I
don't even know anymore, I mean no
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part in part twenty eight, Part
twenty nine, it turns into a discussion
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about four wars that are yet that
are to come, and I'm like,
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how do we get to four wars
from Psawmity three? And then what was
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maddening? And I did an entire
podcast He connected Psalm Eity three to the
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Arab Spring, which is the most
ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my entire
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life. And I don't even know
where that was coming from. Now,
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come to find out he originally did
the series in twenty eleven, and now
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in twenty twenty four, he's borrowing
from his notes from twenty eleven. Well,
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well, what do I always say
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no value, right, I said? Pastors should never use past notes ever,
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Like that should be just a requirement. There should be a committee in
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every church that when the pastor's done
with this sermon, we need your notes
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and we're gonna shred them because you
don't want to. Well, he's using
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his notes from twenty eleven. Why
is that a problem. Well, because
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in twenty eleven he was connecting psaalw
Maity three to the Air Spring. Well,
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anybody who knows anything about the Arab
Spring, that's the most ridiculous thing
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I've ever heard of my entire life. The Arab Spring was not about Israel.
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The Arab Spring were pro democracy protests
and certain Islamic countries. Now,
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the fear wasn't twenty eleven because I
know I was broadcasting I don't know,
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fifteen hours a day back then,
and I covered the Arab Spring intensively.
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I mean, I mean I spent
so much time on it that the fear
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was, Okay, if they overthrow
this government in this area, who are
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the groups who may come to power
in those areas? And then on every
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broadcast I would identify the groups the
Muslim Brotherhood or this Jahadis grouper. Okay,
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that could be detrimental to Israel.
But that would have been long term.
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When it was all said and done, it would actually in some ways
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was more of a positive for Israel
than a negative. So the fact that
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he connected Psalm eighty three to the
Arab spring once again is ridiculous. And
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so many times Christians do that.
Something happens in the news, and what
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do people do. They run and
grab a Bible verse. The Bible is
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not there for you to like,
oh, I'm watching the news. Oh
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oh look it's this verse. No, it's not that verse. It's not
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that verse. People cannot do that. People do that with Matthew twenty four.
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You can't do that with Matthew twenty
You cannot do that when you're watching
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the news. If you're going to
go to the Bible, you got a
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first. What do we always do
with every text when we come in contact
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with it. We understand the text
not in light of current events. We
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understand the text in light of the
time it was written, to whom was
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it written, what was the purpose? How would the original recipients have understood
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it? That I know that's bored
to us because we want to just immediately
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do what, Oh Arab spring saw
eighty three, Oh, ladies and gentlemen,
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it's happening the war saw many three
is about to occur. Well,
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first of all, why would you
say it's about to occur because what happened
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in so Many three has already occurred. Right, There's nothing in that text
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that would make it seem prophetic for
us, correct, because he's dealing with
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something that was happening at the time. That's do you see why I am
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being almost argumentative for the fact that
it has to be interpreted as a lament,
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because if it's interpreted as a lamit, what does that take away any
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prophetic element to it? Right?
Because they are offering the lamit because they're
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lamenting their circumstances. Okay, So
I cannot stress that enough. So those
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are just some things we have to
just f like every week I gotta come
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kind of do some you know,
house cleaning on Psaw eighty three, because
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if I listen to any other sermon, I lose my ever living mind.
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I just don't. I don't know
what's so complicated about Psaw eighty three.
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It's got to be in some ways
it should be the easiest psalm, right
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is simply put, what a Psaw
eighty three? It's a lament where Asaf,
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the worship leader, is offering up
a lament to God because of the
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current situation that they were facing.
And what is the current situation that they
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were facing? A confederacy of nations
we're coming together to do what whype Israel
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off the face of the earth.
That's it. And they hadn't seen God
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show up and they're a little and
that's what they're lamenting, right, I
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mean, it's pretty simple, it's
pretty straightforward. Now, what do we
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take from it? Now? I
have been trying now for weeks to help
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us figure out what we can take
from the Psalm, all right? And
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what we can take from the Psalm
so is I've got two basic concepts that
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we're going to look at. But
the first one that we have been looking
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at now for hours is that in
Psalm eighty three, starting in verse two,
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verse two down to verse four,
two three and four, what happens
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and versus two, three and four
that I think is significant for us in
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twenty twenty four and two three and
four, asaff identifies attributes and characteristics of
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the enemies that they were facing.
Those characteristics and attributes are as follows.
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Number one everyone no, no,
no. The attributes and characteristics of the
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enemy of the enemy. Okay.
Two through four offers up the attributes and
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characteristics of the enemy. What are
those enemies? Number one they create a
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tumult, stir, chaos, loud
disorder. Okay, we got that attribute.
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Number two, they hate God.
Number three they're proud and arrogant.
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Number four they crafty, subtle,
deceitful. Next, they come together.
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They work together for a common goal
that even though they may disagree with each
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other, their common goals to well, they have a common goal okay,
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which is against their enemy. Right. Next they are committed to wiping Israel
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off the face of the earth.
Next they go after God's elector what God
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has chosen, what God treasures.
Those are the attributes. Now, from
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a historical perspective, it describes their
attributes and that situation. But what I
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wanted to do to try to find
something that could be applicable to us is
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I find it fascinating that when we
look at all of our enemies, which
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are just as real, they all
have basically the exact same attributes. And
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what are the enemies that we have
looked at over the last few weeks.
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We've looked at Satan Satan meets all
of those attributes. I mean all of
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those, I mean not even we
don't even I don't need to go through
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and try to prove this all again. We covered it extensively. In fact,
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we didn't even cover it as much
as I wanted to. We could
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still be covering Satan and how I
could go from scripture to scripture to scripture
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to show how he demonstrates these attributes. But I think I did decently.
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Second Demons, Well, now you
have the conspiring right Satan with the demons,
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and the demons have the exact same
attributes. Okay. Third, Sin,
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sin itself the nature of sin.
We have sin as an action,
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in sin is as since a nature, and in both elements it does those
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exact same things, right, It
maintains those same attributes, those same characteristics.
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Next, false teachers. We spent
all last Sunday on false teachers.
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Did we finish false teachers? I
think became close? Okay, Yeah,
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I think for the most part we
covered that. We talked about some of
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the cut now and all of these
we talked about, like the nature of
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false teachers. I put things down
like chaotic false teachers bring chaos and confusion,
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hateful. They harbor hatred towards God
and his truth. Crafty and deceptive
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false teachers use cunning and deceitful tactics
to mislead and manipulate. They attack God's
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people. They target believers, seeking
to disrupt their faith and lead them astray.
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That destroy the truth. Working together, false teachers conspire to destroy the
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foundations of true faith and spread falsehood. Right remember all of that, Okay,
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I think we I mean, we
covered a bunch of scriptures in regards
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to them. I think we talked
some of their tax dicks. They twist
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scripture, they use smooth speech,
they use flattery and approval, approval seeking,
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exploitation and greed, secrecy and deception. I think we can now we
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could be looking at a number of
more verses, but I think we get
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the base of idea, do we
not? Yes, false teachers is a
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problem. Now. We dealt with
all of the issues about false teachers.
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Who gets to determine who's false?
And we talked about all of the difficulties
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and problem I'm not going to go
back through all of that, but those
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are some of our enemies. I'll
just mention a couple of more, just
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briefly, and then we're going to
try to establish the set up the next
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section here. Okay, I have
one one more I've written down here is
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worldly influence or the world system.
All right, A lot of times when
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Christians talk about our main enemies,
what are the three, we almost always
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name the world, the flesh,
and the devil. The devil cannot be
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all places at all time. He's
not all knowing, he's not all powerful.
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But what can assist him is he
can use the world system to do
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what to appeal to the flesh,
because the flesh is already there. He's
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already got in a sense, he's
already got the advantage. Right. Satan
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is external to us, right,
he's outside of us, but he knows
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we all possess a sinful nature,
and that sinful nature is more loyal to
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what, in a sense, him
his way of thinking, his way of
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doing things. Because our flesh,
by nature, does it love God?
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No, it loves self, it
hates God. Does it love God's standards?
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No, it loves our standards.
Does it love God's way? It
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loves our way. So we're already
ready to go right now, Satan cannot
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I know Christians talk this way.
But it's just ridiculous. Satan can't come
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tempt every single person, right because
he's not omni present. Right. Okay,
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so say Satan has limitations, he
can utilize demonic forces, but again
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then you have demons. Okay,
all right, well that how is he
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going to work all of that?
But the one thing we know he doesn't
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have to do much because as long
as the world system is more in line
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with his perspective and his thinking,
then he can just simply use the world
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system, its ideas, it's ideologies, and its philosophies to do what influence
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the way we think, influence and
pull us in a certain direction. And
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that's typically where are And again,
the world system has no power if we
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don't possess what a sinful nature.
So Christians love to blame the world's system
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all the world, the world,
the world, the world, the world,
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the world, the world, the
world. I don't know why we
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mess up. The world system has
no power if we do not possess a
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sinful nature. So what we always
want to do is we want to yell
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and scream at the world system to
make the world's system conform to us.
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We're the problem, not the world
Okay, Does everyone understand that where the
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problem? All right? The world
system just appeals to what's already inside of
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us. The world system doesn't create
what's inside of us. We are drawn
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to what's in the world system because
of what is inside of us. Does
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that make sense? We always put
the blame on the wrong thing. The
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blame is not on the other person. The blame is on me. The
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blame is not on the world.
The blame is on me. The blame
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is not what's on Netflix. The
blame is what's inside of me. The
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blame is not music. The blame
is what's inside of me. I'm the
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issue. We never want to admit
that we're the problem. But the world
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system is there. And what does
the world system typically do well? You
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can just read First Corinthians and remember
the little statement that I would say before
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ever Researmon and our series on First
Corinthians, which is First Corinthians is a
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letter written to a church that is
located in a city. The city was
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influencing the church more than the church
was influencing the city. And that's the
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inevitable reality that we all find ourselves. We live in a world system that
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influences us We may not be able
to identify the influence. We may not
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even realize the influence is happening.
All you got to do is listen to
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Christians talk and you'll be like,
you don't sound like Matthew, Mark,
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Luke, and John you sound like
And then you just name the influence.
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The influence can be political, the
influence can be entertainment. The influence can
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be cultural, The influence can be
family. The influence is coming from somewhere.
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Now, why is that influence so
powerful? Because you already have a
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sinful nature, and what are you
drawn to? You're drawn to the ideas,
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the concepts, and the philosophies that
appeal to what your flesh. They
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appeal to your flesh. So even
you may you may say, I don't
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watch any movies, I don't do
anything, I don't even know what's going
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on in the world, the world
system still impacts you, even if it's
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not coming from what you classify as
the world. It can come from your
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family, it can come from your
friends. It can come that the world
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encompasses everything. Does that make sense? The culture which you were raised,
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the geographical location in which you find
yourself, You're being influenced bombarded constantly with
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ideas and philosophies. That's why the
Bible says, we have to take every
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thought captive, every single thought.
We have to stop it and go time
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out. Stop. Let me consider
you and consider you in light of what
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God's word. Here's the problem.
We will take a thought and consider it
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from our perspective and and go to
the Bible to make the Bible agree with
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That's where we get. We mess
up everything. Okay, So I want
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to see when we talk about the
worldly influence, and that worldly influence,
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by its very nature, tends to
follow many of those attributes. Right,
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does it love God? No?
It hates God? Right, doesn't it
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hates what God? It appeals to
the pride. What does first John say?
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But the lust of the flesh,
lust of the eyes, and the
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pride of life. That all that
is in the world appeals to those three
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things, Right, That's what That's
all that. That's why we are not
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to love the world, neither the
things that are in the world, because
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the things that are in the world, everything that's in the world, appeals
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to the lust of the flesh,
the lust of the eyes, of the
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pride of life. So it maintains
all of those attributes and that's hard to
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fight. Just think as a Christian. And I know this goes against the
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average church thinking, but I'm sometimes
confused at how Christians think. All right
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now, I know it's going to
sound like I'm making an ex but I
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think it's not an excuse when we're
just dealing with the reality. Think of
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the reality of a Christian. Right, So you become a Christian, and
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you may want to try to just
map this out on paper if the best
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you can, right, just draw
a picture of a person a Christian,
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right, Okay, inside their chest. You can just write the word sin
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because we all possess a sin nature
even after what after salvation. I know
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you've got Christian friends who almost will
deny that, but they're ridiculous. It's
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still there, right, We're still
sinners. I know many Christians teach no,
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no, no, no no,
the sin nature is gone. Now
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you have a new one and every
well, you've got to some way then
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explain sin. Right, sin is
still inside of us. That's why Paul
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said, the things I want to
do I don't. The things I don't
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want to do I do right,
because the sin nature is still inside of
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us. When the Bible says we're
a new creature. We're a new creature
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positionally, not practically, right.
So we have Sin inside of us,
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a nature inside of us. Outside
of us, we have a spiritual being
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by the name of Satan. So
you can outside of that little person you
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drew the Christian you can just put
you know, Satan outside of you.
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And Satan seeks to do what to
attack and destroy that which God loves,
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his creation, those whom he has
chosen he wants to attack destroy, all
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right, So we have a So
our first problem starts where the call is
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coming from inside the house. It's
inside of us, right outside of us.
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We have a spiritual being and then
a fallen angelic being seeking to destroy
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us. So we have Satan outside
sinus. Oh but then Satan has what
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Now you can just put these all
around that person demons? All right?
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So we have demonic spirits that are
working. Whether we can perceive them or
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understand them, they're all there.
Okay, Oh wait, and then what
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else are we surrounded by the world
the world system, and the world system
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includes what I want to make sure
you get this everything, school, parents,
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siblings, friends, work everywhere you
come and counter with the world system.
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It's out there. Oh and then
not only do you have all so
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do you see that this is not
looking good? Is it right? Because
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the world's system appeals to the sin
nature. Satan is going up to the
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sin nature demand And then guess what
else do you have out there? False
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teachers, false theology. Your chances
of survival are not very good. Oh
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and guess what else you have inside
of you? You have your own personal
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mental health, physical health, emotional
health, and those have profound impacts on
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you. Do they not? Do
you understand how your mental health and emotional
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health dramatically does what it impacts how
you see the world around you, your
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own personal likes, your own personal
dislikes, the things that you were drawn
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to, the things you're not drawn
to. You can take all of us
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in this room. There's certain things
that you'll be like, Oh, I
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love that, And I'd be like, what are you talking about? That
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sounds like the dumbest, ridiculous waste
of time I've ever heard in my life.
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I wouldn't. I wouldn't. They
would have to pay me a million
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dollars and I still would grip about
it. Okay, well, probably not
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for a million dollars, but you
get the idea, and then there were
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stays because and then you may see
a situation and I'll be like, what
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are how do they why are they
reacting that way? Well, I may
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react. That goes to our very
makeup as people, right, And there's
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all kinds of things that impact that, right. I mean, mental health
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is a complex, complicated thing,
and mental health and the way our mind
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works always makes me nervous because the
way your mind works greatly impacts how you
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perceive not only reality, it impacts
how you see scripture. And can you
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always and like that? I know
this is like getting really deep, but
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I think it's very important. Can
you always trust what your mind thinks?
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Can you always trust what you feel? Well? If I can't trust what
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my mind thinks and I can't trust
what I feel, that's kind of where
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mental health and counseling and therapy come
that because you have someone outside of you
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trying to tell you that the way
you perceive it is not correct, but
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that's the way you perceive it.
And then you've got to rely on someone
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else to tell you how you should
perce Oh man like that? Sometimes that
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kind of that kind of thinking just
makes me want to go find a corner
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and just crawl up in a fetal
position. Just because I do I perceive
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anything to be accurate. Is my
entire perception about everything wrong? Can I
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trust anything? Can I trust any
conclusion or thinking or a thought that comes
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into mind? Can I trust any
of it? Well? On one hand,
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the Bible already puts us in a
very paranoid position. Right. Why
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does the Bible put us in a
very paranoid position? Because the Bible says
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that our hearts are desperately wicked and
deceitful above all things. If my inside
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of myself is deceptive above all things, that means I can't not trust what
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me. Well, if I can't
trust me, I'm in a whole lot
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of trouble. Now, when you
look at all of that, you can
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see why. And I know some
people don't understand Catholicism, but you can
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see why Catholicism could be very,
very appealing at that very moment because I
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don't have to trust what anything about
me. I don't have to trust my
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interpretation. What do I have to
trust the Church? And I trust the
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Church because then I would believe if
you accept Catholicism, you believe in what
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what two words? One starts with
an A, the other one starts with
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an s Apostolic succession. So you
believe God that the apostolic authority was passed
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on to the Church. The Church
has the keys, the Church has the
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authority, the Church has the power. So then I can stop trying to
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figure it out for me and I
can relax. But you, when you
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look at that kind of map,
what does it feel like like? Come
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on, let's just be honest,
just look at that reality of a Christian
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sin inside, Satan, demons and
the world. What what should be our
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expectation for Christians? Nobody wants to
say that, right, Okay, our
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expectation should be there's gonna be a
lot of sin and failure. Now,
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the good thing is when I go
to the Bible, what can I find?
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Well, when I go to the
Bible, I find that that plays
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out in real life? Does it
not? Because even our supposed hero go
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to Hebrews. If you look at
Hebrews eleven and look at the heroes of
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the faith, what does every single
one of them have attached to them?
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Failure? Sometimes gigantic failure? Right? And in fact, but don't we
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have we have a way of men
their failure, right because we'll say,
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well, it only records one.
Well, just because it records one doesn't
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mean there weren't plenty of others.
It doesn't record every day of their lives.
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In some cases, we know they
lived in a perpetual state of failure.
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Right. If you've got seven hundred
wives and three hundred concubines, that's
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perpetual failure. Right. David had
multiple wives, Abraham had multiple wives.
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We can go on and on and
on. Many of them not only had
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wives, had concubines, And we
can go on and on and on and
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on and on and on. We
make all the excuses, but we shouldn't
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make any excuse because if we are
realistic about it, we can say,
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well, why why is the church
so messed up? I mean we're watching
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it all go down in Fort Worth, Dallas with Robert Morris. I mean
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that situation is horrible. You know, not only sexual immorality, but it
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looks like possibly sexual morality with a
twelve year old. That's some serious stuff.
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The whole church is falling apart.
Tony Evans had to step down.
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We don't know what that sin.
We can go on and on and on.
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There was some other I think it
was on the Christian Post maybe today.
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I mean, you can just read
the articles in the Christian Posts or
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the Roy's Report, and every day
it's like this and this and this and
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this and this. It's child molestation, it's sexual assault, it's rape,
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it's sexual and morality. It's this, it's embezzlement, it's this, it's
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that, it's and it's like what
in the world. Well, on one
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hand, everybody wants to throw up
their arms and go it's so bad.
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Just remember the reason it's so bad
today is because we have access to the
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information in real time. Right well
before fifteen, things could be going on
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and you would not know about it. I mean, and now what we
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found out when they started looking into
sexual assault within churches or sexual molestation of
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children in churches, it went back
thirty forty fifty years and the numbers are
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what astronomical. That's why sometimes the
world makes the joke while Christians are yelling
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at screaming about drag shows. Your
kid is in more danger going to church
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than they are going to a drag
show. That's frightening to think about.
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When you look at the numbers right
now, Am I excusing any of that?
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No, no way, shape or
form. But at the same time,
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when you look at that picture of
what Christians are facing, the real
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issue is how do we even survive
a day? All right? Because I
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got sent in me, I got
say now to destroy me. I'm surrounded
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by demonic spirits. Oh and around
I'm breathing in a world system that does
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everything in its power to make me
question, doubt, hate, and turn
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from God. Oh and then I
have philological false teaching all around me everywhere
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everywhere, Christian radio, Christian bookstores, seminaries, Bible colleges, everywhere.
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All right, what am I supposed
to do? Well? You could see
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another option is just run away and
go join a monastery. Right. At
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least the only thing I'm maybe maybe
there, I'm just dealing with me than
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I'm dealing with it. That may
be that at least limits the number of
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things you're cut off from the world. So at least that eliminates that,
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right, Right, So you can
see why now in their case, So
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that's our spiritual situation, right,
And I could add more, There's more
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things I could look at, but
I kind of just brought a whole lot
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of things together, right, a
whole lot of things together. Can we
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all agree that's a lot of enemies. That's a lot of enemies, a
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lot of enemies. I mean,
I don't even know where to begin.
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At the same time, that really
captures what we're seeing in Saw eighty three,
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because not only do they have all
of these attributes, what do we
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have in verse five or verse three? They have taken crafty counsel against your
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people. And what's the next two
words Saw eighty three to three consulted together
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in the king James consulted together.
Verse four they have said, come,
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let us cut them off from being
a nation that the name of visual Maybe
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remember no more, For they have
consulted together, with one consent, they
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form a confederacy against you. Right, everybody got that? So we have
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all of those enemies, and all
of those enemies ultimately conspire and work together
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to do what to make us fall, to make us stumble. And I
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know that, I know from a
psychological standpoint, it sounds like Christianity is,
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you know, paranoia inducing, and
it is a little paranoid, but
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we are. That's why many Christians
have very much a victim mentality like everyone's
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out to a persecution complex. And
I understand it's easy to fall into that.
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I think we got to be careful
not to find persecution where there is
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no persecution. But the reality is
we are surrounded by enemies that want to
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destroy us, and that is a
perplexing problem. So then what is the
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obvious question? Well, in Psalm
eighty three, these enemies are all listed.
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We just listed in a sense,
all of our enemies. Right,
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he lists them Edomites, the Ishmaelites, the Moab, Hagrits, all of
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them. Right, We've looked at
a lot of them. So now the
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question is, Okay, they're facing
serious consequences. What is the solution?
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They've offered a lament? Hey God, where are you? And remember,
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one of the major lessons I've been
teaching in this psalm is that as as
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those in Psalm eighty three are experiencing, the reality of the Christian life is
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that we are a group of people
who believe in a God in whom we
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cannot see, while we live in
a world which we very much can see,
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and we face circumstances which we very
much can feel. And those circumstances
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and all of those things cause us
to question the existence and the involvement of
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the God in whom we cannot see. And at the same time, we
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live in a world surrounded by enemies
which we can see, which sometimes takes
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our eye off the enemies in which
we cannot see. Remember I really emphasize
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that, especially last week. So
then the question is, all right,
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what was the solution or solutions found
in Psalm eighty three if you go from
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verse nine to verse sixteen, nine
to sixteen, all right, the psalmist
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puts forth at least two possible solutions
to their problems. We need to identify
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these two possible solutions to their problems. What is the first one? It
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starts in verse nine. The new
King James starts with the word deal d
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e a l. King James uses
which word do unto them? Deal with
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them? Everybody see that? All
right? So the first solution, the
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first concept that's put forth is this, are you ready? And their situation
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is Psalm eighty three. Asaf in
this communal national lament is asking God to
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do in the present as he has
done in the past. And he names
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a number of situations where God acted
in a specific way in the past,
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and they're asking God to repeat that
action in the present. Right, that
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solution number one? All right?
That solution number one. Now, let
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me put forth the hypothetical callge but
forth a question? All right? Right?
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When we consider God's past actions being
done in the present to get rid
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of Israel's enemies, what is a
conclusion that we can draw from everything that
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happened based off the Bible which you
possess, when we consider God's past actions
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and light of Israel's situations, what
is something we a conclusion we can draw
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from all of God's past actions that
the Psamus is asking do what? Okay?
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Didn't change Israel? Well, I'm
gonna state it this way, and
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I know this is going to sound
negative. All of God's past actions,
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even if they were repeated in the
present and Psalm eighty three did not eliminate
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their enemies? Can we all agree
with that? I mean, saw mayighty
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three, that's at the time of
David, right somewhere between David and the
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beginning of Solomon. Did that stop
their enemies? No, not even close.
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They continue to face enemies. What
okay? Even when the kingdom divides,
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you have the North and the South, did they not face enemies?
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Yes? They do, right,
They faced enemies over and over and over.
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There were conflicts. Right even after
the return from the Babylonian captivity.
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Did Israel continue to face face enemies? Yes? Okay? Did they face
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enemy When we open up our Bibles
to the New Testament? Is Israel dealing
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with enemies? Yeah? They're under
the heel of Rome. Wait what happens
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in seventy a d okay, Rome
destroys them, wipes them off the face
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of the earth. When they become
a nation again in nineteen forty eight,
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even before that they just Jews from
a like a racial standpoint, They're already
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being attacked. And I mean,
obviously we know what Hitler did. Six
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million Jews exterminated. Right then in
nineteen forty eight, have they faced enemies
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and conflicts? Are they October seventh, twenty twenty three, over a thousand
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people killed? Are they still facing
enemies? All? Right? Now?
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This is where I get nervous,
and I know I'm gonna I'm gonna get
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emails and people gonna accuse me of
being an atheist. But no, we
613
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got to deal with a reality here. And I don't like this reality.
614
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Do you like this reality? Where
this is going because this seems to indicate
615
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that even if God intervenes in the
present as he has in the past,
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the one thing we're gonna be able
to take from it is it may resolve
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a present situation, but it will
only be temporary. That's hard for me
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to wrap my mind around, right, even if I lived, I'm at
619
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this time right, because I know
most of the people, when Asaph is
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offering this communal lament, they would
just been like, oh, Amen,
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Amen, that's beautiful, Amen,
and everybody would be like great. There's
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always there's typically only a few people
and every majority within Christianity, there's only
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a very small number who sometimes are
the ones who can't just accept what everyone
624
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is saying. Because if I would
have been in this communal lament Asaf,
625
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I got a question, you want
God to do in the past, You
626
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want him to do that in the
present. Well, the past intervention did
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not stop the present crises. So
if God does what he did in the
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past, you only want him to
resolve it temporarily, because a week from
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now, a month from now,
a year from now, we may just
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be facing the same problem. So
what's the point of God intervening? Now?
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I know I'm not supposed to say
that, right, that's I just
632
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spoke out loud what you're not supposed
to say in church. But someone has
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to ask that question. That is
maddening to me. I don't even know
634
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how to process that. But that's
the first solution. And you watch when
635
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we go through these things. Oh
man, by the time we end this,
636
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this is going to be And so
what does that make you nervous?
637
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Because we are contrasting all of their
enemies with our enemies, and so now
638
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we are confronted with, Okay,
how did God help them with their enemies?
639
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And now we're going to obviously roll
that over in our application. How
640
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then does God help us with our
enemies? And guess where we're being left
641
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with that? Whatever God does to
intervene with our enemies is not a permanent
642
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solution. Well, we do have
a promise, but I'm saying in the
643
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meantime, yeah, yeah, right, that kind of ultimately do they They
644
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have a promise that all their enemies
will be some dude, all their enemies
645
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will be destroyed, they will be
back in the land, right, so,
646
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but they never fit. They never
saw that fulfillment and way too Oh
647
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no, So this gets this gets
gets where this is leading the same concept
648
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I've been talking about all through Psaw
eighty three. As Christians, we live
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in a world in which we see
pain, suffering, death, and enemies,
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and we have a promise of a
future well all of that will be
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resolved, but we cannot yet see
that fulfillment. So we got to hold
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on to a promise in which we
cannot see as we face situations that we
653
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can see that are completely opposite to
the promise in which we cannot see.
654
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They're not the way. That's what
they're facing, right, I mean,
655
00:53:55.480 --> 00:54:01.719
Israel's been given a million promises.
They can't see those promises. In fact,
656
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many of them never even saw the
fulfillment of those promises. So what
657
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we can see does not take away
from the promise which we cannot see.
658
00:54:13.199 --> 00:54:16.039
But you do understand, well,
this is leading to a very difficult reality.
659
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If Israel wanted God to intervene in
the past and the present as he
660
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had in the past, the one
thing we know is that past intervention did
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not take away their present problem and
did not take away their future problem.
662
00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:32.679
So now when I am facing all
of those spiritual enemies I told you to
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kind of map out on paper my
sin nature. Okay, no matter how
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much I ask God to intervene against
my sin nature, what is not going
665
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to happen, Not a permanent solution
until that promise in which I cannot see,
666
00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:54.480
right when I say God to intervene
against satan, is not going to
667
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get rid of satan? All right. So now there's a promise in which
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I I cannot see. When I
talk about God doing something against the world,
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it's a it's not a permanentcitation.
That is frustrating, that puts me
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in a very like difficult situation,
But in some ways it's kind of beautiful
671
00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:17.719
because it's maintaining this concept that I
keep putting forth in Saw eighty three about
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we live in a situation where we
believe in that which we cannot see.
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What we are constantly facing things which
we can see, which calls into question
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what we cannot see. Well,
we have promises that what's going on?
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What some of the promises we have
about about the eternal, eternal future?
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No more satan, no more pain, no more death, no more sin,
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face to face with God, eternal
glory, wonderful. Right, Hey,
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00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:57.239
everything's great now. So many times
I think modern day. Christianity wants
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to take some of those future promises
and try to make them somewhat of a
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present reality, because Christians try to
talk like, well, now I can
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00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:07.320
say yes to God, I can
say no to Sin. I'm a new
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00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:08.920
creature, I can do this,
I can do that with all. Problem
683
00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:12.679
is, it's all garbage because none
of that is true in the present.
684
00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:16.199
That's future promises in which we cannot
see. We want them to be seen.
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00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:22.440
When now do you think Israel wanted
to be seen in the present.
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They wanted to see what they could
not see, did they not? They
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wanted to see those promises. Hey, God stopped telling me we're going to
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be in the land and all of
our enemies are going to be the faith.
689
00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:37.639
Do it now? Didn't happened,
did it? Now? God just
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00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:42.800
kept giving them responsibilities, and they
kept doing what under those responsibilities, Pailly,
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00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:47.199
Just like we fell under? Oh
isn't it very similar when you really
692
00:56:47.239 --> 00:56:52.480
think about it? How the similarity
between Israel and us is we don't like
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00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:55.840
it. See the way we preach
it in churches is no no, no,
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00:56:55.960 --> 00:56:59.760
no, no no no. See, we're better off than Israel because
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00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:02.280
now we have power and we have
this and we have ability and we can,
696
00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:06.320
but we don't. We The reality
is we live just like Israel.
697
00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:09.519
So maybe we keep taking promises that
have nothing to do with the now.
698
00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:14.519
They have something to do with eternity, And in the meantime, we're going
699
00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:20.079
to face the same similar situation as
Israel until we get Thost promises in which
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00:57:20.119 --> 00:57:22.840
we cannot see. So all we
can do is cling to the promise which
701
00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:28.519
I cannot see while I'm dealing with
circumstances I very much can see. Is
702
00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:31.960
that not becoming more and more a
reality in this I think it is.
703
00:57:32.079 --> 00:57:36.079
I think it is all right,
We're gonna have to stop. We'll go
704
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:38.559
through. I said there was two
things. We didn't get to the second
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00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:44.159
one, but we'll bring That's gonna
be our focus in this next hour.
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00:57:44.559 --> 00:57:47.599
It's all about this and these two
solutions, and we're going to compare those
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00:57:47.639 --> 00:57:52.920
solutions to their situation, and then
we're gonna compare it to us. But
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00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:57.599
we're already finding a kind of a
troubling one right that God's intervention in the
709
00:57:57.719 --> 00:58:01.400
past did not take away their problems
at the present, and if God intervened
710
00:58:01.400 --> 00:58:06.719
in the present was not gonna take
away their problems in the future, which
711
00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:10.039
when I face all of our enemies
that we have listed. Even if God
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00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:16.760
intervenes today, if he stops me
from sinning today, that'll be back tomorrow
713
00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:21.239
because the nature doesn't go away.
Even if he holds Satan back today.
714
00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:29.679
Even if he stops the world system
from coming at me today. Yeah,
715
00:58:29.800 --> 00:58:34.599
yes, even if we pray without
ceasing, they're still gonna my praying without
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00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:37.480
ceasing is gonna be more confession than
it is anything else, if I'm honest.
717
00:58:38.199 --> 00:58:42.480
That's like, I know that's not
what anybody wants to hear here,
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00:58:42.519 --> 00:58:45.800
but I think this, like the
text is leading me to that. Please
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00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:51.400
everyone understand, I didn't force that
conclusion into the text. Anyone reading Saw
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00:58:51.480 --> 00:58:54.760
eighty three knows. Hey, asf
I'm sorry to tell you, God can
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intervene against all of those enemies.
Gonna change anything, because you're gonna have
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00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:13.159
enemies coming at you during the reign
of Solomon, and then you can start
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00:59:13.239 --> 00:59:19.360
naming all the kings. And don't
they find themselves in constant battles? Yes,
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00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:23.320
they do, right, constantly.
All right, let's pray, Lord
725
00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:30.719
God, we come before you this
morning. Lord. I think we're being
726
00:59:30.840 --> 00:59:39.079
confronted with an unpleasant reality that our
present situation is never going to be resolved
727
00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:46.280
fixed, or we're never going to
experience heaven on earth. Our hope Lord
728
00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:53.360
is trying to cling to promises which
we can't currently see and believing those promises
729
00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:58.880
are real even though everything around us
may call it. In the question,
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00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:04.159
help us try to to process this
concept, containe to discuss it and talk
731
01:00:04.199 --> 01:00:09.320
about it, and that maybe we
can become really understanding of this in a
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01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:14.039
way that will be beneficial to us
and to anyone we share it with.
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And we asked this in Jesus name, God's people said
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All right, I'm not gonna make
any promises how far we're going to get,
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but Psalm eighty three. I would
like to be done with this psalm
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someday, but it just keeps getting
crazier and crazier. Now, on Tuesday,
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for the podcast, I did a
podcast where I contemplated, possibly acknowledged
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that maybe I've got certain things wrong
about Psalm eighty three. By the time
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I went through kind of the explanation, I kind of then change my mind
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and kind of go back to my
original concept. But let me explain.
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So when we did our introduction to
Psalm eighty three, all right, well,
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we'll do some review, but right
now we'll just go back to the
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specific thing. When we did our
overview and kind of an introduction to Psawm
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eighty three, we classified some eighty
three from the type of psalm that it
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is. We placed it in a
certain category, and we referred to saw
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mayby three as a lament, but
as a specific kind of lament, which
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was a communal lament. All right. Now, when I first asked,
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Hey, what type of psalm this
is? I believe and now I gave
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credit to Sarah Danzler on the podcast
that it was an a precatory, a
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precatory and I went against that concept
well in that the series that sparked this
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entire study. It's now up to
part thirty two, thirty three. I
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don't even know anymore. I don't
even know how many parts they have now,
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and and that whole series is just
maddening. It's just so crazy.
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But I don't even remember what part
twenty four, part twenty five, part
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twenty six, I don't know.
It all blurs together. Now. They
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made an argument that it's an imprecatory
song, so I'm like, Okay,
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maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe it is an imprecatory psalm.
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Now, if it's a lament,
I think you interpret it one way.
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If it's an imprecatory psalm, I
think you have to interpret another way.
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So I kind of like, Okay, maybe I got it completely wrong,
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but I am going to continue to
argue that even though there is a section
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that has the nature of an imprecatory
psalm, the overall feeling I don't think
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reaches to that level. Now,
do everyone knows what an imprecatory psalm is?
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Okay? It doesn't. Okay,
Now we covered all the types of
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the psalms at the beginning, right, does anybody else know what an imprecatory
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psalm is? Yeah, Typically an
imprecatory psalm. You're calling for people to
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die, all right, You're calling
for death, You're calling for destruction upon
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everyone. And we will talk more
about that when we get to this section,
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but just so I can kind of
put forth my argument first, the
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beginning of the psalm and Psawm eighty
three to one, Oh God, do
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not remain quiet, do not be
silent, and Oh God, do not
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be steel for behold, your enemies
make an uproar. That that beginning,
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to me is more of a lament. They're crying, O God, where
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are you? Why are you not
doing anything? We don't need you to
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be silent, We need you to
intervene. Then the rest, as we
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have worked through now countless times.
The rest, he gives all the characteristics
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of the enemies. He kind of
gives their motivation, what they hope,
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what they're attempting to do, they're
forming confederacy. He identifies all the enemies
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from the tensive edom Ishmaelites. Moab
hagwrites Gibbel al Amelek Felistia with the inhabitants
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of tire Assyria. We went all
of that. Then, starting in verse
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nine through twelve, he asked God
to intervene in the present as he has
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in the past. And then when
you get to thirteen, that's where the
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real imprecatory part kind of kicks in
because he does ask asf here for some
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specific things. Right, Oh,
my God, make them like the whirling
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dust, like the chaff before the
wind, as the fire burns the wood,
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and as the flame sets the mountains
on fire. So pursue them with
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your tempest and frighten them with your
storm. Fill their faces with shame.
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How some of that has almost reaches
to the level of imprecatory, but it's
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the very next part that I think
seems to take it away from the imprecatory
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type, because typically in precatory,
you want your enemies destroy, you want
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him dead. Well, look what
he says in the very next line there
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in the ad verse sixteen, fill
their faces with shame, that they may
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seek your name of Lord. Well, if they're dead, they can't seek,
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right, Okay, Next seventeen,
let them be confounded and dismayed forever.
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Yes, yes, let them be
put to shame and perish, that
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they may verse eighteen, that they
may know, depending on which translation,
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that they may know that you,
whose name alone is the Lord, are
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the most high. So he wants
them to seek, he wants them to
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know. Now there's some very strong
language there, but it is poetic.
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So it is very hyperbolic, I
think, to some level. But it
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just feels like it falls just a
little short from being an imprecatory psalm.
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So I even though I look,
if you go with unprecatory, you have
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a certain kind of way of interpreting
it. If you go with a lament,
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you have a different way of going
with it. I argued with Ai
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for I don't know, forty five
minutes back and forth. One minute AI
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would say no, it's a lament. Then the next minute AI would be
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a like, no, it's in
precatory, and then it would be a
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well it has a little bit of
both. And then I'm like, well,
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if you interpret it as a lament, it's this way if you interpret
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it, And I was like okay, So even AI is confused. It
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doesn't know what to do. Nobody
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frustrating because if nobody can even identify
the top of Psalm. How on the
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world are we ever going to come
up with an interpretation? And as we've
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already seen, the interpretations of ssaw
Maty three are absolutely maddening. That's why
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we've been doing this right. Some
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future future war somewhere before the tribulation. It depends on who you listen
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to. Others try to connect it
to Second Chronicles twenty and it's just maddening.
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In fact, if you just look
at the MacArthur Study Bible, here's
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how he handles it. And it's
to me, I want to throw the
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MacArthur Study Bible across the room when
I read this. All right, So
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first he identifies it this way,
This Psalm a national lament, all right,
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Okay, there we go. All
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called it a communal limit, a
national limit. That's good, which includes
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prayer and imprecations. Okay, there
we go. There's an a precaratory part
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to it, all right. So
I'm in agreement here. This is good.
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This is good. This is good. It may be best studied with
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a map, since several individual national
enemies of Israel are noted, all right,
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I think that's true. We've got
to identify these different nations that are
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mentioned, and then look what he
says, Second Chronicles twenty may record the
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specific historical event prompting this psalm.
I don't understand. I don't understand.
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We're right back to the Second Chronicles
twenty situation. Who is so many three?
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Written by ace F? What did
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He's dead? Okay, I don't
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Right? I don't get it.
I don't get it. All right,
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it says though some biblical students.
Now, now this even adds more,
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some biblical students believe that the nations
mentioned are only symbolic. And I'm like,
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well, okay, well, if
they're symbolic, then that has nothing
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to do with Second Chronicles twenty,
right, okay, So the Summus begs
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God to rescue Israel from its enemies, as he had done so in times
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past. Right, Well, to
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it's I guess the reason why,
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you would even want to go to
the symbolic route. I mean, it
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names how many look takes everyone got
their bible. Go to Psaw eighty three
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and just count every specific nation,
people groups, whatever that are mentioned.
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Let's just count them. Let's just
count them, all right. So we'll
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go to we'll go to the first
one is in what verse? We are
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one? Agree? Verse six?
All right? The tents of eat them.
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There's one number two Ishmaelites moem our
hagwrites hagarins depending on your translation,
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Gi ball am on a Malek Felicitia
tire Assyria. They have helped the children
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of Lot. Okay, how many? Is that just right there? Well,
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I mean if you call that you're
helping the children a lot, it's
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naming a specific person, is it
not? Okay? All right, so
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we're gonna count that. So that
gets us how many eleven? Okay?
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Deal with them as with Midian,
as with Cicera, as with Jabin at
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the brook of Kishan, who perished
at Indoor, who became his refuge on
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the earth. Make their nobles like
Oreb and zeb Yes, all their princes
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like Zeba and Zalmuna. Now you
can't come to a passage of scripture where
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there's like seventeen eighteen mentions a specific
people nations tribes. However, you would
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like to classify them and say,
oh, well, those are just symbolic
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of God's enemies. That's from a
hermoneutical standpoint. If I give up,
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like there's no way to interpret the
Bible anymore, Right, I mean when
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the author spins that, and not
only that, we know the psamas Asama
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of Asaf, that's naming a historical
individual, and then it names specific places.
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I don't know how you make that
symbolic. Look, I'm I'm just
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gonna I'm gonna just stand my ground
on these three things. This is what
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I'm gonna stand my groundown so far. Number one saw eighty three as a
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lament with a small section that almost
reaches the level of precatory. Almost,
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But it's a lament, right,
I think, I say, the only
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way I know to interpret it that
the people are crying out to God.
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They don't know where God is because
of the situations they are facing. It
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is a lament. But he got
that. I think that's just as we
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gotta be just absolutely dogmatic about that. Number two, it is not referencing
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Second Chronicles twenty. I just don't
know how. Look, and I understand
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I read sources. I even told
you the sermon that quoted that Asaf was
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called in and Second Chronicles twenty to
write the song. That's just I don't
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even know how that pastor stated that. I don't even know where that's coming
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from. Even when I went back
and forth with AAI times got even confused.
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Now I can understand why AI would
get confused, because it's pulling from
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where all the information out there and
guess what they went it pulling from all
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the information? What is it pulling
from? Confused information? All right?
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So which again, if AI can't
figure it out, the average person sitting
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in the pew, I don't know
how they're supposed to figure it out,
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even with someone who's got education education, I don't even know how to No,
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I don't know. It's just matting. But it's not Second Chronicles twenty.
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So it is a lament with a
small section that would almost rise to
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the level of an impregatory. Number
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twenty and number three. What else
do you think we can say dogmatically?
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There is nothing in this text zero
that would hint that these are symbolic enemies.
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They're naming real people, real situations
and fact I will argue when you
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get to starting in verse nine,
deal with them. As with Midian,
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as with Cicera, it's clearly referencing
actual events. Now we may be able
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to argue which event is being referenced, but in some cases it's obvious,
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right, So there's no way.
So one are the three things we can
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be dogmatic about. Number one,
it's a lament with a section that almost
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rises to the level of being in
precatory. Number two, it's not second
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chronicles twenty number three. These are
not symbolic enemies. These are real enemies.
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Right. Do you think there's anything
else we can be dogmatic about.
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I'm gonna be dogmatic. I'm gonna
add a fourth. We can be absolutely
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dogmatic. And my mind that this
is referencing an event at the time of
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Asaf. He is offering up a
lament of something was happening at that time,
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and we can somewhat then we have
somewhat of a timeframe, right y,
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Yeah, I mean he's referencing the
emotions. He's expressing the emotions of
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the people at that time, right, and that time we know that he
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was the quote unquote, we'll calle
worship leader during the time of David maybe
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into the a brief part into Solomon, so immediately we know exactly what time
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we're referencing. It's referencing an event
at that time. We can be dogmatic
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about that. Okay, does that
make sense? All right? We probably
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could add some more things, but
let's at least have those things written down,
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all right, so y'all can remember
them, all right, So let's
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go through them again. Number one, it's a lament with a section that
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almost reaches the level of in a
precatory prayer. Number two, it's not
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a reference. Second, Chronicles twenty
number three, These are not symbolic enemies
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and symbolic nations. These are real, all right, They're they they're historical.
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Next, these events happened during the
time of asaf Right. Those we
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can be dogmatic, have those down
right, because man, it's it's just
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it's maddening. Like I can't even
I don't even want to ever listen to
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another sermon and saw on ssaw eighty
three ever again in my life. Like
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if I'm ever in a church and
they say we're gonna look at Saw eighty
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three, I'm just gonna get up
and walk out. I can't take it
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anymore, like I don't get it. And for all those who who participated
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in the sermon's two point oh app
challenge and listen to a week worth of
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sermons on SSAW eighty three, you
gotta be just as as I would hope
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is as frustrated as I have been. And then with the even with the
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original series, I mean, I
don't even know anymore, I mean no
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part in part twenty eight, Part
twenty nine, it turns into a discussion
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about four wars that are yet that
are to come, and I'm like,
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how do we get to four wars
from Psawmity three? And then what was
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maddening? And I did an entire
podcast He connected Psalm Eity three to the
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Arab Spring, which is the most
ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my entire
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life. And I don't even know
where that was coming from. Now,
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come to find out he originally did
the series in twenty eleven, and now
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in twenty twenty four, he's borrowing
from his notes from twenty eleven. Well,
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well, what do I always say
about our past notes? There are
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no value, right, I said? Pastors should never use past notes ever,
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Like that should be just a requirement. There should be a committee in
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every church that when the pastor's done
with this sermon, we need your notes
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and we're gonna shred them because you
don't want to. Well, he's using
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his notes from twenty eleven. Why
is that a problem. Well, because
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in twenty eleven he was connecting psaalw
Maity three to the Air Spring. Well,
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anybody who knows anything about the Arab
Spring, that's the most ridiculous thing
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I've ever heard of my entire life. The Arab Spring was not about Israel.
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The Arab Spring were pro democracy protests
and certain Islamic countries. Now,
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the fear wasn't twenty eleven because I
know I was broadcasting I don't know,
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fifteen hours a day back then,
and I covered the Arab Spring intensively.
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I mean, I mean I spent
so much time on it that the fear
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was, Okay, if they overthrow
this government in this area, who are
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the groups who may come to power
in those areas? And then on every
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broadcast I would identify the groups the
Muslim Brotherhood or this Jahadis grouper. Okay,
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that could be detrimental to Israel.
But that would have been long term.
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When it was all said and done, it would actually in some ways
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was more of a positive for Israel
than a negative. So the fact that
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he connected Psalm eighty three to the
Arab spring once again is ridiculous. And
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so many times Christians do that.
Something happens in the news, and what
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do people do. They run and
grab a Bible verse. The Bible is
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not there for you to like,
oh, I'm watching the news. Oh
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oh look it's this verse. No, it's not that verse. It's not
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that verse. People cannot do that. People do that with Matthew twenty four.
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You can't do that with Matthew twenty
You cannot do that when you're watching
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the news. If you're going to
go to the Bible, you got a
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first. What do we always do
with every text when we come in contact
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with it. We understand the text
not in light of current events. We
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understand the text in light of the
time it was written, to whom was
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it written, what was the purpose? How would the original recipients have understood
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it? That I know that's bored
to us because we want to just immediately
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do what, Oh Arab spring saw
eighty three, Oh, ladies and gentlemen,
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it's happening the war saw many three
is about to occur. Well,
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first of all, why would you
say it's about to occur because what happened
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in so Many three has already occurred. Right, There's nothing in that text
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that would make it seem prophetic for
us, correct, because he's dealing with
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something that was happening at the time. That's do you see why I am
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being almost argumentative for the fact that
it has to be interpreted as a lament,
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because if it's interpreted as a lamit, what does that take away any
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prophetic element to it? Right?
Because they are offering the lamit because they're
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lamenting their circumstances. Okay, So
I cannot stress that enough. So those
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are just some things we have to
just f like every week I gotta come
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kind of do some you know,
house cleaning on Psaw eighty three, because
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if I listen to any other sermon, I lose my ever living mind.
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I just don't. I don't know
what's so complicated about Psaw eighty three.
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It's got to be in some ways
it should be the easiest psalm, right
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is simply put, what a Psaw
eighty three? It's a lament where Asaf,
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the worship leader, is offering up
a lament to God because of the
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current situation that they were facing.
And what is the current situation that they
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were facing? A confederacy of nations
we're coming together to do what whype Israel
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off the face of the earth.
That's it. And they hadn't seen God
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show up and they're a little and
that's what they're lamenting, right, I
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mean, it's pretty simple, it's
pretty straightforward. Now, what do we
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take from it? Now? I
have been trying now for weeks to help
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us figure out what we can take
from the Psalm, all right? And
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what we can take from the Psalm
so is I've got two basic concepts that
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we're going to look at. But
the first one that we have been looking
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at now for hours is that in
Psalm eighty three, starting in verse two,
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verse two down to verse four,
two three and four, what happens
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and versus two, three and four
that I think is significant for us in
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twenty twenty four and two three and
four, asaff identifies attributes and characteristics of
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the enemies that they were facing.
Those characteristics and attributes are as follows.
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Number one everyone no, no,
no. The attributes and characteristics of the
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enemy of the enemy. Okay.
Two through four offers up the attributes and
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characteristics of the enemy. What are
those enemies? Number one they create a
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tumult, stir, chaos, loud
disorder. Okay, we got that attribute.
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Number two, they hate God.
Number three they're proud and arrogant.
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Number four they crafty, subtle,
deceitful. Next, they come together.
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They work together for a common goal
that even though they may disagree with each
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other, their common goals to well, they have a common goal okay,
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which is against their enemy. Right. Next they are committed to wiping Israel
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off the face of the earth.
Next they go after God's elector what God
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has chosen, what God treasures.
Those are the attributes. Now, from
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a historical perspective, it describes their
attributes and that situation. But what I
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wanted to do to try to find
something that could be applicable to us is
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I find it fascinating that when we
look at all of our enemies, which
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are just as real, they all
have basically the exact same attributes. And
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what are the enemies that we have
looked at over the last few weeks.
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We've looked at Satan Satan meets all
of those attributes. I mean all of
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those, I mean not even we
don't even I don't need to go through
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and try to prove this all again. We covered it extensively. In fact,
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we didn't even cover it as much
as I wanted to. We could
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still be covering Satan and how I
could go from scripture to scripture to scripture
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to show how he demonstrates these attributes. But I think I did decently.
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Second Demons, Well, now you
have the conspiring right Satan with the demons,
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and the demons have the exact same
attributes. Okay. Third, Sin,
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sin itself the nature of sin.
We have sin as an action,
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in sin is as since a nature, and in both elements it does those
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exact same things, right, It
maintains those same attributes, those same characteristics.
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Next, false teachers. We spent
all last Sunday on false teachers.
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Did we finish false teachers? I
think became close? Okay, Yeah,
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I think for the most part we
covered that. We talked about some of
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the cut now and all of these
we talked about, like the nature of
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false teachers. I put things down
like chaotic false teachers bring chaos and confusion,
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hateful. They harbor hatred towards God
and his truth. Crafty and deceptive
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false teachers use cunning and deceitful tactics
to mislead and manipulate. They attack God's
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people. They target believers, seeking
to disrupt their faith and lead them astray.
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That destroy the truth. Working together, false teachers conspire to destroy the
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foundations of true faith and spread falsehood. Right remember all of that, Okay,
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I think we I mean, we
covered a bunch of scriptures in regards
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to them. I think we talked
some of their tax dicks. They twist
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scripture, they use smooth speech,
they use flattery and approval, approval seeking,
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exploitation and greed, secrecy and deception. I think we can now we
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could be looking at a number of
more verses, but I think we get
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the base of idea, do we
not? Yes, false teachers is a
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problem. Now. We dealt with
all of the issues about false teachers.
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Who gets to determine who's false?
And we talked about all of the difficulties
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and problem I'm not going to go
back through all of that, but those
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are some of our enemies. I'll
just mention a couple of more, just
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briefly, and then we're going to
try to establish the set up the next
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section here. Okay, I have
one one more I've written down here is
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worldly influence or the world system.
All right, A lot of times when
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Christians talk about our main enemies,
what are the three, we almost always
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name the world, the flesh,
and the devil. The devil cannot be
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all places at all time. He's
not all knowing, he's not all powerful.
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But what can assist him is he
can use the world system to do
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what to appeal to the flesh,
because the flesh is already there. He's
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already got in a sense, he's
already got the advantage. Right. Satan
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is external to us, right,
he's outside of us, but he knows
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we all possess a sinful nature,
and that sinful nature is more loyal to
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what, in a sense, him
his way of thinking, his way of
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doing things. Because our flesh,
by nature, does it love God?
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No, it loves self, it
hates God. Does it love God's standards?
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No, it loves our standards.
Does it love God's way? It
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loves our way. So we're already
ready to go right now, Satan cannot
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I know Christians talk this way.
But it's just ridiculous. Satan can't come
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tempt every single person, right because
he's not omni present. Right. Okay,
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so say Satan has limitations, he
can utilize demonic forces, but again
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then you have demons. Okay,
all right, well that how is he
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going to work all of that?
But the one thing we know he doesn't
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have to do much because as long
as the world system is more in line
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with his perspective and his thinking,
then he can just simply use the world
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system, its ideas, it's ideologies, and its philosophies to do what influence
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the way we think, influence and
pull us in a certain direction. And
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that's typically where are And again,
the world system has no power if we
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don't possess what a sinful nature.
So Christians love to blame the world's system
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all the world, the world,
the world, the world, the world,
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the world, the world, the
world. I don't know why we
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mess up. The world system has
no power if we do not possess a
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sinful nature. So what we always
want to do is we want to yell
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and scream at the world system to
make the world's system conform to us.
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We're the problem, not the world
Okay, Does everyone understand that where the
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problem? All right? The world
system just appeals to what's already inside of
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us. The world system doesn't create
what's inside of us. We are drawn
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to what's in the world system because
of what is inside of us. Does
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that make sense? We always put
the blame on the wrong thing. The
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blame is not on the other person. The blame is on me. The
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blame is not on the world.
The blame is on me. The blame
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is not what's on Netflix. The
blame is what's inside of me. The
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blame is not music. The blame
is what's inside of me. I'm the
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issue. We never want to admit
that we're the problem. But the world
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system is there. And what does
the world system typically do well? You
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can just read First Corinthians and remember
the little statement that I would say before
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ever Researmon and our series on First
Corinthians, which is First Corinthians is a
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letter written to a church that is
located in a city. The city was
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influencing the church more than the church
was influencing the city. And that's the
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inevitable reality that we all find ourselves. We live in a world system that
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influences us We may not be able
to identify the influence. We may not
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even realize the influence is happening.
All you got to do is listen to
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Christians talk and you'll be like,
you don't sound like Matthew, Mark,
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Luke, and John you sound like
And then you just name the influence.
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The influence can be political, the
influence can be entertainment. The influence can
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be cultural, The influence can be
family. The influence is coming from somewhere.
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Now, why is that influence so
powerful? Because you already have a
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sinful nature, and what are you
drawn to? You're drawn to the ideas,
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the concepts, and the philosophies that
appeal to what your flesh. They
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appeal to your flesh. So even
you may you may say, I don't
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watch any movies, I don't do
anything, I don't even know what's going
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on in the world, the world
system still impacts you, even if it's
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not coming from what you classify as
the world. It can come from your
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family, it can come from your
friends. It can come that the world
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encompasses everything. Does that make sense? The culture which you were raised,
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the geographical location in which you find
yourself, You're being influenced bombarded constantly with
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ideas and philosophies. That's why the
Bible says, we have to take every
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thought captive, every single thought.
We have to stop it and go time
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out. Stop. Let me consider
you and consider you in light of what
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God's word. Here's the problem.
We will take a thought and consider it
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from our perspective and and go to
the Bible to make the Bible agree with
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That's where we get. We mess
up everything. Okay, So I want
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to see when we talk about the
worldly influence, and that worldly influence,
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by its very nature, tends to
follow many of those attributes. Right,
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does it love God? No?
It hates God? Right, doesn't it
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hates what God? It appeals to
the pride. What does first John say?
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But the lust of the flesh,
lust of the eyes, and the
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pride of life. That all that
is in the world appeals to those three
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things, Right, That's what That's
all that. That's why we are not
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to love the world, neither the
things that are in the world, because
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the things that are in the world, everything that's in the world, appeals
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to the lust of the flesh,
the lust of the eyes, of the
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pride of life. So it maintains
all of those attributes and that's hard to
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fight. Just think as a Christian. And I know this goes against the
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average church thinking, but I'm sometimes
confused at how Christians think. All right
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now, I know it's going to
sound like I'm making an ex but I
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think it's not an excuse when we're
just dealing with the reality. Think of
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the reality of a Christian. Right, So you become a Christian, and
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you may want to try to just
map this out on paper if the best
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you can, right, just draw
a picture of a person a Christian,
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right, Okay, inside their chest. You can just write the word sin
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because we all possess a sin nature
even after what after salvation. I know
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you've got Christian friends who almost will
deny that, but they're ridiculous. It's
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still there, right, We're still
sinners. I know many Christians teach no,
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no, no, no no,
the sin nature is gone. Now
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you have a new one and every
well, you've got to some way then
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explain sin. Right, sin is
still inside of us. That's why Paul
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said, the things I want to
do I don't. The things I don't
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want to do I do right,
because the sin nature is still inside of
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us. When the Bible says we're
a new creature. We're a new creature
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positionally, not practically, right.
So we have Sin inside of us,
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a nature inside of us. Outside
of us, we have a spiritual being
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by the name of Satan. So
you can outside of that little person you
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drew the Christian you can just put
you know, Satan outside of you.
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And Satan seeks to do what to
attack and destroy that which God loves,
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his creation, those whom he has
chosen he wants to attack destroy, all
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right, So we have a So
our first problem starts where the call is
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coming from inside the house. It's
inside of us, right outside of us.
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We have a spiritual being and then
a fallen angelic being seeking to destroy
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us. So we have Satan outside
sinus. Oh but then Satan has what
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Now you can just put these all
around that person demons? All right?
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So we have demonic spirits that are
working. Whether we can perceive them or
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understand them, they're all there.
Okay, Oh wait, and then what
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else are we surrounded by the world
the world system, and the world system
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includes what I want to make sure
you get this everything, school, parents,
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siblings, friends, work everywhere you
come and counter with the world system.
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It's out there. Oh and then
not only do you have all so
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do you see that this is not
looking good? Is it right? Because
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the world's system appeals to the sin
nature. Satan is going up to the
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sin nature demand And then guess what
else do you have out there? False
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teachers, false theology. Your chances
of survival are not very good. Oh
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and guess what else you have inside
of you? You have your own personal
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mental health, physical health, emotional
health, and those have profound impacts on
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you. Do they not? Do
you understand how your mental health and emotional
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health dramatically does what it impacts how
you see the world around you, your
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own personal likes, your own personal
dislikes, the things that you were drawn
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to, the things you're not drawn
to. You can take all of us
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in this room. There's certain things
that you'll be like, Oh, I
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love that, And I'd be like, what are you talking about? That
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sounds like the dumbest, ridiculous waste
of time I've ever heard in my life.
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I wouldn't. I wouldn't. They
would have to pay me a million
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dollars and I still would grip about
it. Okay, well, probably not
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for a million dollars, but you
get the idea, and then there were
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stays because and then you may see
a situation and I'll be like, what
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are how do they why are they
reacting that way? Well, I may
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react. That goes to our very
makeup as people, right, And there's
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all kinds of things that impact that, right. I mean, mental health
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is a complex, complicated thing,
and mental health and the way our mind
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works always makes me nervous because the
way your mind works greatly impacts how you
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perceive not only reality, it impacts
how you see scripture. And can you
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always and like that? I know
this is like getting really deep, but
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I think it's very important. Can
you always trust what your mind thinks?
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Can you always trust what you feel? Well? If I can't trust what
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my mind thinks and I can't trust
what I feel, that's kind of where
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mental health and counseling and therapy come
that because you have someone outside of you
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trying to tell you that the way
you perceive it is not correct, but
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that's the way you perceive it.
And then you've got to rely on someone
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else to tell you how you should
perce Oh man like that? Sometimes that
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kind of that kind of thinking just
makes me want to go find a corner
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and just crawl up in a fetal
position. Just because I do I perceive
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anything to be accurate. Is my
entire perception about everything wrong? Can I
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trust anything? Can I trust any
conclusion or thinking or a thought that comes
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into mind? Can I trust any
of it? Well? On one hand,
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the Bible already puts us in a
very paranoid position. Right. Why
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does the Bible put us in a
very paranoid position? Because the Bible says
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that our hearts are desperately wicked and
deceitful above all things. If my inside
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of myself is deceptive above all things, that means I can't not trust what
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me. Well, if I can't
trust me, I'm in a whole lot
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of trouble. Now, when you
look at all of that, you can
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see why. And I know some
people don't understand Catholicism, but you can
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see why Catholicism could be very,
very appealing at that very moment because I
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don't have to trust what anything about
me. I don't have to trust my
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interpretation. What do I have to
trust the Church? And I trust the
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Church because then I would believe if
you accept Catholicism, you believe in what
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what two words? One starts with
an A, the other one starts with
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an s Apostolic succession. So you
believe God that the apostolic authority was passed
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on to the Church. The Church
has the keys, the Church has the
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authority, the Church has the power. So then I can stop trying to
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figure it out for me and I
can relax. But you, when you
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look at that kind of map,
what does it feel like like? Come
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on, let's just be honest,
just look at that reality of a Christian
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sin inside, Satan, demons and
the world. What what should be our
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expectation for Christians? Nobody wants to
say that, right, Okay, our
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expectation should be there's gonna be a
lot of sin and failure. Now,
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the good thing is when I go
to the Bible, what can I find?
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Well, when I go to the
Bible, I find that that plays
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out in real life? Does it
not? Because even our supposed hero go
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to Hebrews. If you look at
Hebrews eleven and look at the heroes of
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the faith, what does every single
one of them have attached to them?
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Failure? Sometimes gigantic failure? Right? And in fact, but don't we
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have we have a way of men
their failure, right because we'll say,
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well, it only records one.
Well, just because it records one doesn't
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mean there weren't plenty of others.
It doesn't record every day of their lives.
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In some cases, we know they
lived in a perpetual state of failure.
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Right. If you've got seven hundred
wives and three hundred concubines, that's
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perpetual failure. Right. David had
multiple wives, Abraham had multiple wives.
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We can go on and on and
on. Many of them not only had
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wives, had concubines, And we
can go on and on and on and
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on and on and on. We
make all the excuses, but we shouldn't
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make any excuse because if we are
realistic about it, we can say,
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well, why why is the church
so messed up? I mean we're watching
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it all go down in Fort Worth, Dallas with Robert Morris. I mean
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that situation is horrible. You know, not only sexual immorality, but it
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looks like possibly sexual morality with a
twelve year old. That's some serious stuff.
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The whole church is falling apart.
Tony Evans had to step down.
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We don't know what that sin.
We can go on and on and on.
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There was some other I think it
was on the Christian Post maybe today.
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I mean, you can just read
the articles in the Christian Posts or
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the Roy's Report, and every day
it's like this and this and this and
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this and this. It's child molestation, it's sexual assault, it's rape,
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it's sexual and morality. It's this, it's embezzlement, it's this, it's
509
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that, it's and it's like what
in the world. Well, on one
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hand, everybody wants to throw up
their arms and go it's so bad.
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Just remember the reason it's so bad
today is because we have access to the
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information in real time. Right well
before fifteen, things could be going on
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and you would not know about it. I mean, and now what we
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found out when they started looking into
sexual assault within churches or sexual molestation of
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children in churches, it went back
thirty forty fifty years and the numbers are
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what astronomical. That's why sometimes the
world makes the joke while Christians are yelling
517
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at screaming about drag shows. Your
kid is in more danger going to church
518
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than they are going to a drag
show. That's frightening to think about.
519
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When you look at the numbers right
now, Am I excusing any of that?
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No, no way, shape or
form. But at the same time,
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when you look at that picture of
what Christians are facing, the real
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issue is how do we even survive
a day? All right? Because I
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got sent in me, I got
say now to destroy me. I'm surrounded
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by demonic spirits. Oh and around
I'm breathing in a world system that does
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everything in its power to make me
question, doubt, hate, and turn
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from God. Oh and then I
have philological false teaching all around me everywhere
527
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everywhere, Christian radio, Christian bookstores, seminaries, Bible colleges, everywhere.
528
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All right, what am I supposed
to do? Well? You could see
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another option is just run away and
go join a monastery. Right. At
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least the only thing I'm maybe maybe
there, I'm just dealing with me than
531
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I'm dealing with it. That may
be that at least limits the number of
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things you're cut off from the world. So at least that eliminates that,
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right, Right, So you can
see why now in their case, So
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that's our spiritual situation, right,
And I could add more, There's more
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things I could look at, but
I kind of just brought a whole lot
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of things together, right, a
whole lot of things together. Can we
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all agree that's a lot of enemies. That's a lot of enemies, a
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lot of enemies. I mean,
I don't even know where to begin.
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At the same time, that really
captures what we're seeing in Saw eighty three,
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because not only do they have all
of these attributes, what do we
541
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have in verse five or verse three? They have taken crafty counsel against your
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people. And what's the next two
words Saw eighty three to three consulted together
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in the king James consulted together.
Verse four they have said, come,
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let us cut them off from being
a nation that the name of visual Maybe
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remember no more, For they have
consulted together, with one consent, they
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form a confederacy against you. Right, everybody got that? So we have
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all of those enemies, and all
of those enemies ultimately conspire and work together
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to do what to make us fall, to make us stumble. And I
549
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know that, I know from a
psychological standpoint, it sounds like Christianity is,
550
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you know, paranoia inducing, and
it is a little paranoid, but
551
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we are. That's why many Christians
have very much a victim mentality like everyone's
552
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out to a persecution complex. And
I understand it's easy to fall into that.
553
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I think we got to be careful
not to find persecution where there is
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no persecution. But the reality is
we are surrounded by enemies that want to
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destroy us, and that is a
perplexing problem. So then what is the
556
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obvious question? Well, in Psalm
eighty three, these enemies are all listed.
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We just listed in a sense,
all of our enemies. Right,
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he lists them Edomites, the Ishmaelites, the Moab, Hagrits, all of
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them. Right, We've looked at
a lot of them. So now the
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question is, Okay, they're facing
serious consequences. What is the solution?
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They've offered a lament? Hey God, where are you? And remember,
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one of the major lessons I've been
teaching in this psalm is that as as
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those in Psalm eighty three are experiencing, the reality of the Christian life is
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that we are a group of people
who believe in a God in whom we
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cannot see, while we live in
a world which we very much can see,
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and we face circumstances which we very
much can feel. And those circumstances
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and all of those things cause us
to question the existence and the involvement of
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the God in whom we cannot see. And at the same time, we
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live in a world surrounded by enemies
which we can see, which sometimes takes
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our eye off the enemies in which
we cannot see. Remember I really emphasize
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that, especially last week. So
then the question is, all right,
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what was the solution or solutions found
in Psalm eighty three if you go from
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verse nine to verse sixteen, nine
to sixteen, all right, the psalmist
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puts forth at least two possible solutions
to their problems. We need to identify
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these two possible solutions to their problems. What is the first one? It
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starts in verse nine. The new
King James starts with the word deal d
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e a l. King James uses
which word do unto them? Deal with
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them? Everybody see that? All
right? So the first solution, the
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first concept that's put forth is this, are you ready? And their situation
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is Psalm eighty three. Asaf in
this communal national lament is asking God to
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do in the present as he has
done in the past. And he names
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a number of situations where God acted
in a specific way in the past,
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and they're asking God to repeat that
action in the present. Right, that
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solution number one? All right?
That solution number one. Now, let
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me put forth the hypothetical callge but
forth a question? All right? Right?
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When we consider God's past actions being
done in the present to get rid
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of Israel's enemies, what is a
conclusion that we can draw from everything that
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happened based off the Bible which you
possess, when we consider God's past actions
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and light of Israel's situations, what
is something we a conclusion we can draw
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from all of God's past actions that
the Psamus is asking do what? Okay?
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Didn't change Israel? Well, I'm
gonna state it this way, and
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I know this is going to sound
negative. All of God's past actions,
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even if they were repeated in the
present and Psalm eighty three did not eliminate
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their enemies? Can we all agree
with that? I mean, saw mayighty
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three, that's at the time of
David, right somewhere between David and the
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beginning of Solomon. Did that stop
their enemies? No, not even close.
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They continue to face enemies. What
okay? Even when the kingdom divides,
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you have the North and the South, did they not face enemies?
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Yes? They do, right,
They faced enemies over and over and over.
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There were conflicts. Right even after
the return from the Babylonian captivity.
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Did Israel continue to face face enemies? Yes? Okay? Did they face
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enemy When we open up our Bibles
to the New Testament? Is Israel dealing
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with enemies? Yeah? They're under
the heel of Rome. Wait what happens
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in seventy a d okay, Rome
destroys them, wipes them off the face
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of the earth. When they become
a nation again in nineteen forty eight,
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even before that they just Jews from
a like a racial standpoint, They're already
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being attacked. And I mean,
obviously we know what Hitler did. Six
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million Jews exterminated. Right then in
nineteen forty eight, have they faced enemies
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and conflicts? Are they October seventh, twenty twenty three, over a thousand
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people killed? Are they still facing
enemies? All? Right? Now?
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This is where I get nervous,
and I know I'm gonna I'm gonna get
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emails and people gonna accuse me of
being an atheist. But no, we
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got to deal with a reality here. And I don't like this reality.
614
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Do you like this reality? Where
this is going because this seems to indicate
615
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that even if God intervenes in the
present as he has in the past,
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the one thing we're gonna be able
to take from it is it may resolve
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a present situation, but it will
only be temporary. That's hard for me
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to wrap my mind around, right, even if I lived, I'm at
619
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this time right, because I know
most of the people, when Asaph is
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offering this communal lament, they would
just been like, oh, Amen,
621
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Amen, that's beautiful, Amen,
and everybody would be like great. There's
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always there's typically only a few people
and every majority within Christianity, there's only
623
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a very small number who sometimes are
the ones who can't just accept what everyone
624
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is saying. Because if I would
have been in this communal lament Asaf,
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I got a question, you want
God to do in the past, You
626
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want him to do that in the
present. Well, the past intervention did
627
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not stop the present crises. So
if God does what he did in the
628
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past, you only want him to
resolve it temporarily, because a week from
629
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now, a month from now,
a year from now, we may just
630
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be facing the same problem. So
what's the point of God intervening? Now?
631
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I know I'm not supposed to say
that, right, that's I just
632
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spoke out loud what you're not supposed
to say in church. But someone has
633
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to ask that question. That is
maddening to me. I don't even know
634
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how to process that. But that's
the first solution. And you watch when
635
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we go through these things. Oh
man, by the time we end this,
636
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this is going to be And so
what does that make you nervous?
637
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Because we are contrasting all of their
enemies with our enemies, and so now
638
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we are confronted with, Okay,
how did God help them with their enemies?
639
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And now we're going to obviously roll
that over in our application. How
640
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then does God help us with our
enemies? And guess where we're being left
641
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with that? Whatever God does to
intervene with our enemies is not a permanent
642
00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:55.239
solution. Well, we do have
a promise, but I'm saying in the
643
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meantime, yeah, yeah, right, that kind of ultimately do they They
644
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have a promise that all their enemies
will be some dude, all their enemies
645
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will be destroyed, they will be
back in the land, right, so,
646
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but they never fit. They never
saw that fulfillment and way too Oh
647
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no, So this gets this gets
gets where this is leading the same concept
648
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I've been talking about all through Psaw
eighty three. As Christians, we live
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in a world in which we see
pain, suffering, death, and enemies,
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and we have a promise of a
future well all of that will be
651
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resolved, but we cannot yet see
that fulfillment. So we got to hold
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on to a promise in which we
cannot see as we face situations that we
653
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can see that are completely opposite to
the promise in which we cannot see.
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They're not the way. That's what
they're facing, right, I mean,
655
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Israel's been given a million promises.
They can't see those promises. In fact,
656
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many of them never even saw the
fulfillment of those promises. So what
657
00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:12.960
we can see does not take away
from the promise which we cannot see.
658
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But you do understand, well,
this is leading to a very difficult reality.
659
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If Israel wanted God to intervene in
the past and the present as he
660
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had in the past, the one
thing we know is that past intervention did
661
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not take away their present problem and
did not take away their future problem.
662
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So now when I am facing all
of those spiritual enemies I told you to
663
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kind of map out on paper my
sin nature. Okay, no matter how
664
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much I ask God to intervene against
my sin nature, what is not going
665
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to happen, Not a permanent solution
until that promise in which I cannot see,
666
00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:54.480
right when I say God to intervene
against satan, is not going to
667
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get rid of satan? All right. So now there's a promise in which
668
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I I cannot see. When I
talk about God doing something against the world,
669
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it's a it's not a permanentcitation.
That is frustrating, that puts me
670
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in a very like difficult situation,
But in some ways it's kind of beautiful
671
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because it's maintaining this concept that I
keep putting forth in Saw eighty three about
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we live in a situation where we
believe in that which we cannot see.
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What we are constantly facing things which
we can see, which calls into question
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what we cannot see. Well,
we have promises that what's going on?
675
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What some of the promises we have
about about the eternal, eternal future?
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No more satan, no more pain, no more death, no more sin,
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face to face with God, eternal
glory, wonderful. Right, Hey,
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everything's great now. So many times
I think modern day. Christianity wants
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to take some of those future promises
and try to make them somewhat of a
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present reality, because Christians try to
talk like, well, now I can
681
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say yes to God, I can
say no to Sin. I'm a new
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creature, I can do this,
I can do that with all. Problem
683
00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:12.679
is, it's all garbage because none
of that is true in the present.
684
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That's future promises in which we cannot
see. We want them to be seen.
685
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When now do you think Israel wanted
to be seen in the present.
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They wanted to see what they could
not see, did they not? They
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wanted to see those promises. Hey, God stopped telling me we're going to
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be in the land and all of
our enemies are going to be the faith.
689
00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:37.639
Do it now? Didn't happened,
did it? Now? God just
690
00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:42.800
kept giving them responsibilities, and they
kept doing what under those responsibilities, Pailly,
691
00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:47.199
Just like we fell under? Oh
isn't it very similar when you really
692
00:56:47.239 --> 00:56:52.480
think about it? How the similarity
between Israel and us is we don't like
693
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:55.840
it. See the way we preach
it in churches is no no, no,
694
00:56:55.960 --> 00:56:59.760
no, no no no. See, we're better off than Israel because
695
00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:02.280
now we have power and we have
this and we have ability and we can,
696
00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:06.320
but we don't. We The reality
is we live just like Israel.
697
00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:09.519
So maybe we keep taking promises that
have nothing to do with the now.
698
00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:14.519
They have something to do with eternity, And in the meantime, we're going
699
00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:20.079
to face the same similar situation as
Israel until we get Thost promises in which
700
00:57:20.119 --> 00:57:22.840
we cannot see. So all we
can do is cling to the promise which
701
00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:28.519
I cannot see while I'm dealing with
circumstances I very much can see. Is
702
00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:31.960
that not becoming more and more a
reality in this I think it is.
703
00:57:32.079 --> 00:57:36.079
I think it is all right,
We're gonna have to stop. We'll go
704
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:38.559
through. I said there was two
things. We didn't get to the second
705
00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:44.159
one, but we'll bring That's gonna
be our focus in this next hour.
706
00:57:44.559 --> 00:57:47.599
It's all about this and these two
solutions, and we're going to compare those
707
00:57:47.639 --> 00:57:52.920
solutions to their situation, and then
we're gonna compare it to us. But
708
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:57.599
we're already finding a kind of a
troubling one right that God's intervention in the
709
00:57:57.719 --> 00:58:01.400
past did not take away their problems
at the present, and if God intervened
710
00:58:01.400 --> 00:58:06.719
in the present was not gonna take
away their problems in the future, which
711
00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:10.039
when I face all of our enemies
that we have listed. Even if God
712
00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:16.760
intervenes today, if he stops me
from sinning today, that'll be back tomorrow
713
00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:21.239
because the nature doesn't go away.
Even if he holds Satan back today.
714
00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:29.679
Even if he stops the world system
from coming at me today. Yeah,
715
00:58:29.800 --> 00:58:34.599
yes, even if we pray without
ceasing, they're still gonna my praying without
716
00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:37.480
ceasing is gonna be more confession than
it is anything else, if I'm honest.
717
00:58:38.199 --> 00:58:42.480
That's like, I know that's not
what anybody wants to hear here,
718
00:58:42.519 --> 00:58:45.800
but I think this, like the
text is leading me to that. Please
719
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:51.400
everyone understand, I didn't force that
conclusion into the text. Anyone reading Saw
720
00:58:51.480 --> 00:58:54.760
eighty three knows. Hey, asf
I'm sorry to tell you, God can
721
00:58:54.840 --> 00:59:04.840
intervene against all of those enemies.
Gonna change anything, because you're gonna have
722
00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:13.159
enemies coming at you during the reign
of Solomon, and then you can start
723
00:59:13.239 --> 00:59:19.360
naming all the kings. And don't
they find themselves in constant battles? Yes,
724
00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:23.320
they do, right, constantly.
All right, let's pray, Lord
725
00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:30.719
God, we come before you this
morning. Lord. I think we're being
726
00:59:30.840 --> 00:59:39.079
confronted with an unpleasant reality that our
present situation is never going to be resolved
727
00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:46.280
fixed, or we're never going to
experience heaven on earth. Our hope Lord
728
00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:53.360
is trying to cling to promises which
we can't currently see and believing those promises
729
00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:58.880
are real even though everything around us
may call it. In the question,
730
00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:04.159
help us try to to process this
concept, containe to discuss it and talk
731
01:00:04.199 --> 01:00:09.320
about it, and that maybe we
can become really understanding of this in a
732
01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:14.039
way that will be beneficial to us
and to anyone we share it with.
733
01:00:14.119 --> 01:00:15.039
And we asked this in Jesus name, God's people said
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