July 12, 2024

Psalm 83 and the Arab Spring

Psalm 83 and the Arab Spring
Psalm 83 and the Arab Spring
Theology Central
Psalm 83 and the Arab Spring

More confusing discussion about Psalm 83

More confusing discussion about Psalm 83

0:02 Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is the Theology Central podcast, making Theology Central. Someone make it stop, please, someone make it stop. It just won't stop. I don't understand. I don't understand anymore. I am confused, I am perplexed, I am confounded. I don't understand. I don't understand anything. And well that's probably bad since oh I'm doing a series trying to explain it. Oh wait, I'll explain it all in just a minute. Just just be patient. Good afternoon everyone. It is Friday, July the twelfth, twenty twenty four. It is currently three thirty five pm Central Time, and I am coming to you live from the Theology Central studio located right here in Abilene, Texas. And because it's Friday, you know what that means, right, It's Friday. So right here in the studio, my focus has to really kind of change from podcasting and the series we're working on and all of that, and it has to kind of shift not from you know, podcasting, but it has to shift to what I'm going to be preaching and teaching on Sunday. And if you've been paying any attention, you know that what we've been working on on Sunday is PS eighty three. We have been working, and there's a part of me that, uh, there's a part of me like how did I get myself

1:32 into this mess? Like how do I get out of this? Just someone make it stop. On one hand, I just kind of want to be done. On the other hand, I'm like, man, if I can make it all the way to the end, maybe I will have accomplished something. I don't know. I think I've given some very interesting points about some many three. But I'm struggling. But I've been sitting. I've been up and down the steps like a lot today because I have all kinds of things I need to do downstairs. So I've been helping downstairs, moving this, doing this, putting this together, doing all kinds of things like that. I just I've got all kinds of things to do. So in between doing things, I keep running back up the steps and I'll keep I keep coming around right here to the microphone, and I'm like, Okay, well what do I do today? I need to I need do I really want to broadcast today? Well? We got to kind of continue to do that work on that. Well, that kind of turned into a series on revival, right, I need to do a little work on that. And then we started working on you know, lean not to your own understanding, leaning wrong, and we looked at Abraham and how he leaned towards Egypt, or should I say Abram how he leaned towards Egypt. Well, maybe today we'll talk about Lot leaning towards Sodom and how he leaned towards Sodom. Okay, So I started working on it, and I started working on it, and then, you know, one page of notes turned into two page of notes, and then turned into three pages, and then turned into four pages, and I think I have now five pages of just all kinds of different you know, thinking about it and trying to you know, okay, well what about this? Well I know this is the way most people present, but maybe maybe our preaching of this is completely wrong. Maybe we should approach it from

3:05 this perspective. So I was kind of create different hypotheses and then testing them, and I'm like, Okay, that's what I'm going to do. I am going to do something on Lot in Genesis chapter thirteen. That's what I'm going to do because I need to. And then I'm like, but wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, it's it's Friday. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta start moving your attention to saw eighty three because you're going to be spending two hours standing there behind a pulpit working on saw eighty three. So I'm like, what do I do? What do I do? What do I do? So I'm like, you know what, just take a break, take a break, went back downstairs, came back upstairs, and I'm like, okay, let me just look at my feed on the sermons two point oh app I told everyone to, you know, find twenty broadcasters and everyone to monitor their feed. Remember I made a big deal out of that. So I'm like, well, since I'm telling everyone to do that, let me do that. So I opened up and I looked at my feed, the feed tab, right, I look at my feed tab. I'm like, go all the way back to it, because I opened up fifty things and I pulled down and I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. This cannot be real. This cannot There's just no way. And I just sat there and I looked at it and I just started shaking my head and I'm like, this cannot be real. This cannot be in my feet. This cannot be real. Who is messing with me? Like someone is messing with me. Someone is trying to drive me to becoming an alcoholic. I can they're trying to drive me to drink.

4:34 Okay, not literally, but it feels like someone is messing with me. It feels like it. They'm about to knock my iPad completely off the table, but it feels like it because this is what I found. Remember, way way back in a galaxy far far, far, far far far away. How one day I had to go do a lot of running around Abilene, Texas in my car, and so I had to take people places and pick people up, and I'm doing all these things. So I grabbed my iPad and downloaded a bunch of random sermons to participate in the Sermon's two point oh app sermon challenge. I remember one of those random sermons was The Coming Middle East War. And then when I started playing it, I realized the full title was PSAWM eighty three The Coming Middle East War, and I was like, oh wait, what is this? And that started this it seems like never ending journey and dealing with SSAW eighty three. And remember we reviewed a bunch of things within that series, and it just got confusing and like at times it really wasn't even about SSAW eighty three. Some of the things being said about SAW eighty three. I not only where there's just not accurate.

5:42 I just like just maddening stuff, maddening stuff. So I'm like, you gotta be well, obviously you know where I'm going with this. I opened up my Sermon's two point oh app and went to my feedsapp and there it is Psalm eighty three, Part thirty one, from the same ministry that started all of this. Remember, they changed the title from the Coming Middle East War to just SAW eighty three, like Part twelve thirteen, fourteen fifteen. I think they changed the title like Part ten or Part eleven. And now they're at part thirty one. Ladies and Gentlemen, thirty one. I am imploring you, I am begging you to go listen to all thirty one parts. You say why, it's frustrated you, it's confused you, it's confounded you. You've been somewhat irritated by it at times I have. I'm also been appreciative because they made me relook at SAW eighty three and decide is it a communal lament or is it a precatory And I kind of apologize.

6:46 I think I'm kind of back that even though they say it's in a precreatory, I think it's a communal lament and I think I can prove. I think I can prove that. So, but we went back and forth on that. So I've been learning things. But the reason I want you to listen to it is one because it's the very thing that sparked all of this. But two, I just want you to hear for yourself, not with my commentary, not with my analysis. I want you to hear all thirty one parts for yourself. I want you to process what's being said. I want you to understand how does this relate to Psalm eighty three. I want you to hear how the text is being handled. You can draw your own conclusion. Forget what I have said. You draw your own conclusion. And the reason I just look, maybe I shouldn't be this way, but there are times I listen to preaching or teaching. I'm just gonna be honest with you. There are times it impacts me different ways. Sometimes I will listen to preaching and teaching like man, they are such a good communicator. I could never communicate as good as they can. Wow, the way they handle the text. Wow, I never could be that good. But I'm gonna be honest. There's other times I'm like, wait a minute, that's that's the sermon, that's that's what they're doing. And they have a huge church in radio ministry, and they have all kinds of people giving donations, and they just brought in, you know, one hundred thousand dollars, like,

8:18 and I'll be like, what in the world, Like, if that's what people want, I just need to retire. I just need to get I can't because I refuse to be that. Like there's sometimes I'm just like, not only can I not do that, I refuse to do that, And if that's what people want, there's no point in me even trying anymore. Sometimes I get very discouraged. Right, Sometimes I may feel like, man, I can never be that good, but I can work harder, right, I could do better. I can I could improve. And then there's other times I'm like, well, if that's what people want, just forget it. Just and and a lot of what people want to be honest with, I just I refuse to provide. I'm just not going to preach that way, teach that way. I'm just not But if that's what people want, then there's no point. So sometimes I get first with this series on Saw eighty three, there's a part of me just going what I I don't even know what to do with it. So I was like, okay, all right, thirty one parts, I'm a little bit behind. I think I'm back at like part twenty six. So I'm like, you know what, I don't know what to do right now. I need to do this thing on lot and you know, lean not to your own understanding, but I need to be working on Saw eighty three. So I looked up some passages and saw or I looked up some passages that are going to be relevant to Saw eighty three in the Book of Judges, and I'm like, Okay, how do you say his name jereaball or Okay, Okay, I think I've got that. Wait, how do I say that name? Okay?

9:46 Trying to make sure, Okay, how much am I going to read from Judges? Just trying to figure out some of the logistics and how I'm going to put it together. Okay, wait do I ooh I could have a little section here on im precatory. Okay, maybe I can do something with that. So I'm just trying to figure out how I'm going to approach it. And then I'm like, you know, I'm not getting anything done. All right, I know what I'll do. Since I'm behind in this series. Let me go back to part twenty six and let me start listening. And I started listening, and some thing's there. Then I'm like, okay, well, you know that's a good point. That series. The pastor behind that series is very much believed that God promised land Israel, and Israel will get that land. Okay, we're in agreement there. I believe God gave a promise to land for Israel, and that is physical land and it's not to be spiritualized. So we're in absolute agreement there. All right, good, Okay, that's good. But then he mentioned something and I think this may be the second or third time. I cannot if anyone listens to all thirty one parts, you can tell me how many times they mention it.

10:56 They mentioned the Arab Spring, and I'm like, why is this series that's being put together In twenty twenty four, continuing to mention the Arab Spring. How was long with twenty ten twenty eleven, I'm not understanding, And what has that got to do with Psalm eighty three, Like, I'm just completely back and what does that got to do with Israel? Like I'm completely baffled by the whole thing. So what I want to do is just play a little section where the Arab spring is gonna be mentioned. I know what I want to do is just I'm gonna look, I've stated it before, some we've we've I think we have driven this point into the ground. I think I some people may say I'm beating a dead horse, and I have no desire to do that. But the more preaching I continue to listen to on Psawm eighty three, the more I feel like I have to continue to repeat these issues. Psalm eighty three, Ladies and Gentlemen, is a I'm gonna I even if you say it's in a precatory song, whether you say it's a precatory or whether you say it's a lament. Psalm eighty three is Acef the worship leader at the time of David, maybe into the beginning of the reign of Solomon. He is expressing whether an imprecatory prayer or a lament based off the situation that is happening. Right then, this is not prophetic, it is it's a historical description of what they were facing and the emotions

12:26 and the desires that were arising from the situation they were facing at that time. This is not talking about some incoming Middle East war. This is talking about what was going on at the time. No one has come even anywhere close to trying to make a argument otherwise. The best we got is someone try to connect it to Second Chronicles twenty and then they made ridiculous comment that basically Acef was alive at the time, which is just not true. So then we're like, okay, you know what, No, this is describing what was happening at that very moment. It's a present tense problem. It's not prophetic, all right. So so I I have to repeat that a million times. That's what's going on. But somehow in this discussion about p SSAW eighty three, the Arab spring is going to be mentioned. So I just want to drive that point home. That's what it's about, all right now. I'm trying my best at on Sundays in my you know, two hours of preaching each Sunday, trying to demonstrate a way to make it somewhat applicable to us. And I think I've done so at using the text.

13:35 Now the next part of it's going to fall completely apart. I think it's going to fall completely apart. But we will. We will get there when we get there, all right, so what we will see. But in the meantime, let's go listen to this and just keep in your mind. Saw eighty three is not describing anything future. It's describing what was going on at that time. All right. I don't I almost feel exhausted. But let's let's see what happens. Are you right? Are you ready to hear what happens? Now? I just kind of stop this, like it's right in the middle. I think he just I think what he just finished talking about was he was talking about how Muslims don't you know, Islam doesn't recognize Israel, that in some of their schools they remove Israel from the map, and they hate Israel, and so he was saying kind of negative things, and he said, well, some people may be saying to me, you better not say that, or they'll kill you. And he was like, well, so what, You'll just send me to heaven all right, and that and I'll be ruling and reigning with Christ. And so he kind of goes in that direction. Okay, great, wonderful, all right. It's kind of weird, like sometimes Christians will say, well, if they kill me, so what, I'll just go to heaven. And then the next minute they're saying, oh wait, wait, wait, wait, maybe all Christians in this building, but we're going to make sure we have a security team with guns because if someone comes and try to kill us, we're gonna take them. Now. Wait, they would just be sending you to heaven.

14:54 I thought that would be wonderful, right, Okay, So Christians so weird. Like one time it's like God, nobody can hurt me because God is protecting me. But I have locked doors and guns. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, I don't need any protection because the worst you can do is send me to heaven. But wait a minute, I'm gonna have a gun and a locked door. It's it's sometimes this weird contradiction. But let's see where he's gonna go. I think it's only gonna be like maybe quickly. I think he's gonna it's gonna get weird because, well, at least to me, because I think we're gonna end up talking about Russia. What has that got to do with PSA eighty three and then the Arab spring Let's see, let's see, maybe I misheard it. We're getting ready to find out. But now many of their leaders in various lands have stated these things. I've just said. That's not an accusation, that is not just a thought or an opinion. That's what their own leaders have said. Aad Henry Morse, doctor Henry Morse, who's now with the Lord, made this statement on this passage in Psalms eighty three. He said, the prophecy primarily applies to the end times, since their defeat will be forever, as it

16:25 states in verse seventeen, it will end with these Muslim nations acknowledging Jehovah as supreme over the earth. Once again, it's not prophetic, it's describing what's going on at that time. And even when you and even that reading from Henry Morris, Okay, let me go. So starting in thirteen, asaff cries out to God, you could call this in somewhat of inn a precatory section, see God, to bring destruction upon these people, bring judgment upon these people. You could argue that it's somewhat poetic and maybe hyperbolic, because it doesn't sound like he wants them completely destroyed, because he wants this, all these things to happen to them. Look at verse sixteen. Fill their faces with shame, that they may seek your name, O Lord, that they hey, do this so that they may seek that you. Obviously they have to still be in existence to seek, right, Okay, So so that kind of shows their desire, which again to me, is not so much your preconatory. That sounds more like a lament. Hey, But in a lament you're crying out, Hey, we want you to do something, but we really want you to do it so that they will seek God.

17:45 Let them be confounded and dismayed forever. Yes, let them be put to shame and perish, that they may know that you, whose name alone is the Lord, are the most high. This is not prophesying. This is saying, Lord, do this so that this may happen. I don't know why everyone keeps saying that this is a prophecy about some coming Middle East war. I don't understand we have. We have taken this text apart. We've gone forward backwards, we've turned it upside down, we've turned it to the left, to the right, we've we've flipped it over. We've done everything and there I and every single time when we listen to any message about this, it's just it's always asserted as a dogmatic fact. This is a coming Middle East war? What are you talking that? These so so it's a coming war with Muslim nations who are coming against Israel prophetically somewhere in the future.

18:44 No, no, no, let's anybody have Asaf's phone number, because if we could call him, I know we can't, but if we could call him, Asaf would be like, what are you talking about? That was my lament, That was my precatory prayer because we were facing us her horrible situation at the time of either in the life of David or maybe the beginning of the reign of Solomon somewhere around that time. But I okay, but all right, so now so it's Muslim nations. Now all sudden, Russia is gonna come involved. This is just watch what happens. Hey think about that. The Bible says that's going to happen. I don't care who you are, what kind of a Christian you say you are, or whoever you say you are, how intelligent you think you are. If God says that's what's going to happen, and he does, that is going to happen.

19:41 Now, that doesn't have to happen before the rapture, but it can take place, and very well it can take place. There's nothing saying that it won't happen before the rapture. We already see the Russian Coalition prophesiede twenty six hundred years ago. Those nations. Now I'm completely confused. It's Muslim nations now Russian nation? What now Russia is involved? When did Russia become a Muslim nation? I don't I don't get this. So now he's going to go to a prophecy about Russia. But ASAU eighty three is not about Russia, there's no way to make it about Russia. So is he is he saying there's going to be Is he saying there's going to be a Russian invasion or war and there's going to be a war with Muslim nations? There's two future wars? Is that the direction he's going have never been together like they seem to be coming together today. And this Ukraine mess and all of that that will change when the Tribulation has the Russian Coalition coming down. You'll find that in the Book of Ezekio, chapter thirty eight, we see these

21:12 nations this around Israel, getting consensus with their Arab spring against Israel. We see these Arab nations with a consensus against Israel in their Arab spring. Okay, I'm going to back that up just a little bit. Okay, I want you to hear that exactly. Okay, here we go. Let's back this up. Fourteen southeast thirty sixth Avenue. Okay, I don't know what just happened. All right, let's see if we can find this here, right, I don't know. My timer thing here is doing weird things.

21:56 We'll find this spot. It may take me a minute. Just be patient. Coming to this earth. Okay, four wars come to this earth that the Bible identifies. Okay, that's not it. Let's see if we can get back a little further here. If we can get back a little further right, let's see if this is it. Go. Those nations have never been together like they seem to be coming together today, and this Ukraine mess and all of that that will change when the Tribulation has the Russian coalition coming down. You'll find that in the Book of Ezekiel, chapter thirty eight.

22:48 We see these nations this around Israel getting consensus with their air spring against Israel to actually attack them. And God told us in Psalms eighty three, three thousand years ago that this day was coming, and he named the people the Arabs. He's connecting this to the Arab Spring. Well, that's first of all, that's not today. Let's do everybody ready to take a little class on the Arab Spring. Everybody ready, Okay. Now, I'm not going to say by no means am I an expert on the Arab spring, not even close. But I do know this. At the time of the Arab Spring, I was broadcasting in some ways it almost felt like twenty four hours a day around the clock at that time because I'd kind of fallen into this thing that you know, I kind of do a news program from a Christian perspective. It never really was my intention to kind of turn into what it turned into, but it kind of spiraled out of control and next thing, you know, I'm basically not sleeping, and I'm working full time job in the military and a full time pastor, and I'm of like a full time news broadcaster. Was very detrimental to me spiritually because I wasn't even focusing really on spiritual things. But at that time, man I was broadcasting and talking about the Arab Spring frequently constantly. All right, so if you don't know,

24:22 the Arab Spring was a series of pro democracy protests and uprisings that began in twenty ten and twenty eleven across the Middle East and North Africa. Please note twenty ten, twenty eleven. Now he's saying they're coming together in their Arab Spring today. Now it's not today. It was twenty ten, twenty eleven, and they were coming together to attack Israel. Is that what the Arab Spring was about. It was a pro democracy protest. Now, these movements challenged and trenched a oritarian regimes in the region. And here are some of the key points. The origins and trigger the Arab Springs started when protests in Tunisian Egypt led to the downfall of their respective regimes. The spark came from the self immolation of a Tunisian street vendor. He burned himself alive.

25:19 And the reason he did this he was protesting mistreatment by local officials. So he was getting upset about these how he'd been treated. He burns about mistreatment by local officials. He burns himself alive. Self immolation, all right, a sacrifice usually by fire if you want it like a technical definition. All right, that kind of sparks all of this. Now. Inspired by Tunisia and Egypt, similar movements emerged in other Arab countries. People express political and economic grievance, demanding greater freedoms, human rights, and democratic reforms. Please note they were demanding greater freedom, human rights, and democratic reforms. What has that got to do with this Israel? The way he's describing it, I don't I don't even understand. Okay. Now, While some countries saw successful regime changes, like Tunisia, others faced violent crackdowns by security forces.

26:15 Not all movements achieved their goal of increased democracy and cultural freedom. For instant, Libya experience civil war and serious uprising turned into a prolonged conflict, and some read the Arab Spring was a complex and transformative period with variant outcomes, but it highlighted the desire for change and democratic progress in the region. Please note in that entire description looked up for many, many sources, all compiled together. Guess what. Guess what wasn't mentioned there Israel? That does not sound like PSAW eighty three. They will come together to try to fight against authoritarian regimes and to try to find democratic reform and find personal freedom and human rights. That is not what PSAWM eighty three has to say. There's nothing to do with the Arab Spring. So then I was like, Okay, let me do a little research here because I was like, well, during the Arab Spring, how did Israel? How was Israel impacted? So again, gathering from a numerous sources, Israel faced significant challenges and concerns during the Arab Spring. There was concern initially Israel leaders. Israeli leaders worried that the uprisings might empower Islamist groups, leading to instability and potential potential threats to Israel security. Hey, if some of these leaders fall, then there may just come a power vacuum in some of these nations and countries and it could lead to a little bit of chaos. And what will happen While you're fighting for,

27:45 say, democratic reform, you're trying to fight for human rights. Once you topple the government, now you have a power vacuum. And then these groups, many of them will be Islamic groups that will very much try to take over, which will then only bring back act much more of a you know, Islamic Sharia law type government, which then ultimately could be in play negatively for Israel. And I discussed all of this at that time, all the potential concerns. Now the impact was more like this. The Arab Spring did lead to systemic changes in the Middle East, but and some of them were negative. We cannot deny that. For example, the Muslim Brotherhood gained power in Egypt, and Jahadis groups emerged in Syria, ISRAELI. Israel's relationship with some Arab nations worsened. So there was some negative things that happened, But there wasn't like this confederacy of Arab nations because of their Arab Spring.

28:45 None of this is PSAW eighty three. But here's what's interesting in hindsight, if you look back now, Israel emerged really as a winner. The regions die dynamics shifted and Israel's security interests were actually better preserved before well it was all said and done. Now we ultimately know what happened on October seventh, but ultimately from the Arab Spring there was there was actually things improved for a period of time. So when we talk about the Arab Spring, it's more it's better to understand. It's a complex story. But the headlines today tell a different tell than a decade ago. In other words, when we kind of look back, we we can kind of look at it now and get a better understanding of it. At the time, yeah, there was grave concern. Wait a minute, Okay, I know, I know we're saying these people want democracy, and maybe they do, but they may end up with unintended consequences. You get rid of that leader. Who's gonna take its place? Is it going to be the Muslim Brotherhood? Is it gonna is gonna be other Jihadis groups? Okay, we all. I discussed all of that. It felt like every day for for months, over and over.

29:59 No, and I would be like, okay, now we have protests in this country. All right, everyone pull out their maps, mark this place. Oh we have another protest here. Now here's what you need to know. As if they topple that governmental leader. Here are the groups that will try to take power within that country, and then I would name the groups. It would be the Muslim brotherhood or this group or this Jahadish group, and we try to discuss it. Now. If that happens, now you see where Israel could be in trouble. There was lots of discussions about that, but it did not play out anyway. Definitely did not play out the way he just described. And the main thing I want to say, none of the thing that happened in the air of Spring sounds like this. All right, okay, none of this sounds like this. Are you ready?

30:45 PSAWM eighty three. Do not keep silent, Oh God, do not hold your peace, and do not be still, Oh God, For behold, your enemies make a tumult, and those who hate you have lifted up their heads. They have taken crafty counsel against you, I guess your people, and consulted together against your sheltered ones. They have said, come, let us cut them off from being a nation, that the name of Israel may be remembered no more. For they have consulted together with one consent, they form a confederacy. Against you. That is not the Arab Spring. That has nothing to do with the Arab Spring. All right, I'm gonna pack it up and we can finish this up. Now. I know some of you like, well, you're just making a big deal out of it.

31:30 I'm not. It's a big deal because I don't. Look, you can people can be wrong. All Look, you can have forget opinions. You can have your own alternative facts about what happened in the Arab Spring. You can write your own story about it. Okay, right, fine, But here's the thing. Leave Psaw eighty three out of it. That is my issue. Okay, I'm gonna back this up a little further. Let's see hopefully this isn't messed up here we go pure no for you that have been listening maybe following the last few days on this, as I said, okay, it's weird. Every time I back it up, it does this weird stuff. Or let's see if we can get right back to where we were.

32:12 Hopefully this is it day and this Ukraine mess and all of that that will change when the Tribulation has the Russian Coalition coming down. You'll find that in the Book of Ezekiel, chapter thirty eight. We see these nations this around Israel getting consensus with their Arab Spring against Israel to actually attack them. And God told us in Psalms eighty three, three thousand years ago that this day what's coming, and he named the people, he named the land, and it's beginning to come to pass. Psalm eighty three was not predicting the Arab spring in twenty ten and twenty eleven. Now what happened in twenty ten and eleven, and the Arab Spring has nothing to do with whatever you think is starting to happen in twenty twenty four. Now you're seeing it, the Arab spring. We'll now we're in twenty twenty four. And now you're saying psaalw eighty three is prophescing what is happening now. No, psaw MANI three was describing what was happening then at the time of ACEF. Now there are

33:50 four wars coming to this earth. Okay, four wars come to this earth that the Bible identifies for us. There may be many more wars, but the Bible speaks of four of these wars. And someone please write these down, all right, because look, this is worth see. Even though I may be strongly frustrated and strongly disagreeing with, especially with the Arab spring thing that just drove drove me. And that's when I heard it. I haven't heard this part yet because I stopped it with the Arab spring stuff, knowing I had to talk about it, all right, But here's what I want you to do. He's gonna name. He says, there's four wars.

34:39 There may be more, but there's four specific wars that are coming. Four we want to write down and see if we can. And we may want to make this like we may this may end up turning into, you know, another series where we where we look at these four possible wars and see if they are. If he's thinkings three it is one of those wars, we can go ahead and throw that one out. Because Saw eighty three is describing what happened, then it is not prophetic. There's been no textual proof even hinted at to show me that this is a prophetic psalm, and not either in a precatory prayer about what was happening at the time or a communal lament about what was happening at the time. But let's get these four wars now, I'm fascinated on this part right. See, this is why we listen to different sermons. We may disagree with a good portion of it, but we still may be then challenged to consider something that we've never considered before.

35:35 I think I know one of those wars. Maybe I don't. Let's see. I think maybe I know where he's going. But let's see where he's going to go. And I'm going to go from fourth to first when I do this. So be listening next time when we start right here now for you that have been listening maybe following the last few days on this. As I said, I did this series back in twenty eleven with much, much, much research, checking things from around the world, ladies and gentlemen, I think we just figured out what happened. The reason he has mentioned the Arab spring so many times he's using his notes from two thousand and eleven.

36:24 Now, Lead. I have stated this over and over and over for any pastor, for any preacher, your old notes are useless and the present you should burn your notes past notes used in the present, bring your past mistakes into the present. The only way to get rid of those past mistakes and correct those past mistakes is to never use your notes from the past, but always start over, always start brand new. The reason he's mentioning the Arab Spring that way is because he was doing this in two thousand and eleven. Well, I'm sorry, it's twenty twenty four. You know, the Arab Spring did not lead to anything that you even hinted at or mentioned.

37:07 None of that happened, and made sure that there were no contradictions with the word of God. But what I want you to see is, as I said three thousand years ago, we see these things being prophesied. We see things coming to pass that God prophesied long ago. My friend, are you ready to meet the Lord? Can you give me a Bible reason why you know that if you died today that Heaven would be your home. This is your radio pastor, pastor, and all right, well, well you know what we need to do. Class. We have a new assignment for our Psalm eighty three. Ladies and gentlemen. You need to go find this series on Psalm eighty three, and you need to start in part twenty seven.

37:58 You need to listen to twenty seven, nine thirty and thirty one. I told you to go back to the beginning and listen to all of it right now, just forget that start in twenty seven, and we need to find out the four wars. He's going to start with number four, go to three, go to two, and go to one. We need to find any scripture reference he gives. We need to outline what are the four wars, what are the scripture references, and then we're going to have to then take each one basically as a hypothesis. He's hypothesizing that this is the fourth war, this is the third, this is the second, this is the first, and then we will test those hypotheses and see if we can either confirm or deny, because if there's four coming wars, we want to know not only what those wars are, what to look out for those wars and when may they occur? All right, I think that's good now, So here let me give you the information. So what you need to do is you need to look for Central Baptist Church, Central Baptist Church speaker's doctor Andy Bloom, and you need to find his series on Psalm eighty three. You need to look for part twenty. You need to download if you can either download it if you need to listen to it, offline or you can just stream it part twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine, thirty and thirty one. Now, if he covers those four before you get to thirty one, great, But considering the way he's done this, it may go all the way to part thirty one. We need to identify what the four wars are, We need to identify everything he says about them. Just kind of

39:30 consider that what he's saying is his hypotheses. Okay, who is the war with? When is the war supposed to occur? What should we be looking for? What nations are involved? And what scriptures clearly outline it. That's kind of what we need. Who where like the who, what where when how kind of concept and the scripture? The who what, where, when how? And the scripture that's kind of what we need to do. Then we will Then what we will do is we may then break this off because I don't think it SAW eighty three has anything to do with any of that. Right, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna forget that he's even now if he says SAW eighty three is one of the coming wars, We're going to just ignore that. We're going to just go ahead and say that we've done enough work that we can already disregard that hypothesis. But I will listen to any argument that he puts forth because I got no problem. I've already come on here once and kind of basically said I was wrong, maybe that it isn't a preparatory sum. Now that i've I'm kind of going back and forth, but I got no problem coming back going no, I was wrong.

40:27 It is prophetic and it is a future war. So we'll see how he explains it. But now we got to Now we got a challenge in front of us. I just wanted to talk about the Arab Spring because I don't want other Christians having a very confused perspective. But I now understand why his perspective was a little flawed because he's basing it off what was going on in twenty eleven. He's using his old nodes instead of taking five seconds to do a little research, going, well, how did that all turn out? How did the Arab spring actually turn out? Well, not the way you were discs And I guarantee you this. It obviously wasn't SSAW eighty three. So either the Arab Spring was PSAW eighty three, or the Arab Spring had nothing to do with p SAW eighty three, because now we're in twenty twenty four. Now he's saying, well, now now we're seeing it come together.

41:15 Well, I thought you were saying it was we were seeing it coming together in twenty eleven. Now it's coming together in twenty twenty four. Well, then it has nothing then disconnected from the Arab Spring. But he says there's four coming wars. There could be more, but there's at least four. The who, what, where? When? How? That's your job, that's our job. We're never gonna well, but we're going to separate these four wars out of PSAWM eighty three. So anything he connects to Samiti three, we're just going to disregard unless something happens. And I changed my mind. All right, Now, if you're convinced this PSAW eighty three is prophetic, well then by all means you can you can argue your hypotheses.

41:57 I'm willing to listen to it. But this point I'm just getting confused. So now we can kind of understand why he's mentioned the Arab Spring multiple times, Because it was twenty eleven, there was all this stuff happening in the Middle East, and he decided that saw Mati three prophesied it didn't quite work out. So now we're in twenty twenty four, and now Samiti three is prophesying what's going on today because the twenty eleven thing didn't work out for you, I mean, and now because of what happened in Gaza and what's going on in Gaza Okay, the Palestinians, all of the you know, Hamas and all of the different things. Now, see, every time something happens over there, people want to start saying, well, a fulfillment of a prophecy. Well, and then nothing happened. Done, Well, nothing happens until we just wait till the next time. That's what it feels like.

42:49 But who knows. I don't know where it's going to ultimately go, but I am interested. So please look it up. If you cannot find it, email me NEWSI fitt Yahoo dot com. News I f at yahoo dot com. So your weekend is going to be filled with Psalm eighty three. What No, Actually, it's going to be filled with four coming wars. Right somewhere in your house. You should have a big white board and you should have your whole family there saying all right, ladies, here's the four wars? Who, what, where? When? How? In the scripture reference. All right, I know your kids are going to be like, do what I No, we're not doing that. Okay, right, but probably everybody in your family would say stop listening to that stupid podcast. But all right, there you go, there's your assignment. What I have to do is not allow this to distract me from what I need to do, which is actually work on Saw Maity three. So now I'm gonna want to go to church on Sunday and go and we're going to look at four wars that have nothing to do with saw Maity three while we're in the middle of Saw eighty three. Yeah. I can't do that, but I'm going to be very tempted to do that. All right, We'll see. All right, ladies and gentlemen, thanks for listening. You can email me news i F at yahoo dot com. That's news letter, i F News i F India Frank News i F at yahoo dot com. Everyone have a great day.

44:10 God bless h