Preaching Truth While Spreading Lies

0:02 Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is the Theology Central podcast, making Theology Central. Good evening everyone. It is Saturday, February the twenty second, twenty twenty five. It is currently six pm Central Time, and I am coming to you live from the Theology Central studio located right here in Abilene, Texas. Now, I don't know if I should be offended. I don't know if I should be grateful. I don't really know exactly how I should handle this. But right before I went live on the air, artificial intelligence told me that this is the way I should handle myself during this episode.

0:53 It kind of gave me a little bit of warning and advice. I said, Okay, before you start this podcast, before you you talk about this, before you start your episode, you should approach it this way. And it gave me five things that I need to do in this episode. Artificial intelligent intelligence gave me five things. Well, first, it's more intelligent than me. Since I can't even say artificial intelligence, but artificial intelligent intelligence. See, I did it again. Artificial intelligence gave me five things I need to do in this episode. Number one, I need to begin with a humble reflection and it gives me Ephesians Chapter four, verse twenty six, be ye angry, and sin not, let not the sun go down upon your wrath. Be ye angry, and sin not, let not the sun go down upon your wrath. I think AI is trying to tell me, Hey, guys, trying to tell me, well, there may be something here that you should be angry about, but do not sin, and do not let the sun go down upon your wrath.

2:09 So I need to be angry here, but I don't need to sin in my anger, and I need to work through it before the sun goes down. And so I have limited amount of time before the sun goes down. I need to have worked through my anger. I'm not as angry about this as I was when we talked about the subject we're going to be talking about earlier. In fact, that's why I had to record the apology, because I got so upset. But once I get into this, I have a feeling I'm going to be upset. AI at least thinks artificial intelligence thinks I'm going to be upset. So it tells me, hey, you need to be humble here, and you need to reflect on this. And I will say this, I know this is very important since we're going to be talking about lies and misinformation and wrong information and fraudulent information. Let me make Let me make it very clear if I never share any fraudulent information and a podcast episode, I never share misinformation, I never share wrong information, fake information. I always have my facts straight.

3:14 If in every episode I have ever done, and the entire history of broadcasting that I have done and will do, if I never share any wrong information, all my facts are double checked. If I do everything right, let me make it very clear. At heart, I am still a liar. If I'm going to say that's fraudulent information, that's fake information, that's wrong, they are sharing lies. Let me make it very clear. I need to confess this. I am a liar. My heart is deceitful above all things. We lie in so many different ways. We lie to ourselves. I think we lie to God. We lie to others. We deceive ourselves, we try to deceive others. There are so many ways in which we use deceptions. Sometimes we may even say something that is true but in a way to ultimately deceive someone. So we I'm a liar. Let me let's forget the wee. I am a liar. I am not always honest with myself with other people. I'm a liar, all right, So let's just get that out of the way.

4:17 So if I'm if I get upset here and start yelling and screaming about fraudulent information shared from the pulpit, let me make it very clear. Even if I don't do that, I'm no better than anyone else because I may just share my lies outside of the pulpit or not in front of the microphone, but I'm still a liar. I am a liar. So I'm glad that AI said begin with humble reflection, because that is important to remember. It's like if I I mean, it's true of all of us. If a pastor is condemning sin, he may be condemning a sin, but he's a sinner. And if you are condemning sin, you need to always remember you're a sinner. The bottom line is, none of us are without sin, because we are all perpetually in sin, twenty four hours a day, seven days a week. All right.

5:06 So that's the first thing AI wanted me to do. Wanted me to acknowledge and basically begin with a humble reflection and try to remember Ephesians for twenty six. Second, what AI tells me I need to do here, Artificial intelligence tells me I need to expose the sermons in accuracies using evidence. So what AI wants me to do. There's a particular sermon, you know which one we're gonna play just a little bit of it. It wants me to expose the sermons and accuracies. Because Ai, AI took the sermon and just ripped it to shreds just a little while ago. I took the transcript of the sermon that we reviewed in a previous episode, okay, and I gave it to it and AI was like, this thing is as, this thing is a total mess, Like you need to expose these inaccuracies. The third thing AI is telling me to do, I need to explain to you why truth matters even when defending Christianity. Now, as Christians, we are the ones who's supposed to believe in absolute truth, right, We're the ones who are supposed to put away lying, speak the truth with every person. God hates lying lips do not bear false witness. We're the ones who speak against Supposedly, we're supposed to condemn deception, condemn lying, we're supposed to speak the truth. We're the ones who are supposed to be trafficking in truth, promoting it, defending it,

6:38 and ladies and gentlemen, we are to do that. Even when we're defending Christianity. It doesn't matter if we're talking about Church history, doesn't matter, if we're talking about the Church Fathers. It doesn't matter what we're talking about. It doesn't matter if we're talking about Satanism, Mormonism, Islam, whatever we're discussing. It doesn't matter if we're talking about popular culture music. We have to have our facts straight. We have to be messengers of truth, and even when we're talking about Christianity, we have to share truth that in many cases makes us look really really really really really really bad, and we have to acknowledge that truth is supposed to matter to us. So artificial intelligence is telling me that in this episode, I need to begin with humble reflection and remember Ephesians four twenty six, Be angry, but do not sin. Okay, got it? Number two? Expose the sermon in accuracies. I'm going to be reviewing a part of a sermon. Well, I'm going to be reviewing the whole sermon. We're not going to be reviewing the audio of all of it, but we're going to be talking about the sermon. I need to expose it and accuracies.

7:40 The third thing I need to do is I need to explain why truth matters, because for some weird reason, Christians don't seem to believe truth matters. Oh they say they do, but in reality they don't. Because I cannot tell you how much misinformation, how many lies, how much fraudulent information I have heard in sermon after sermon after sermon after sermon. It is sometimes staggering how many lies I have heard from pulpits. The fourth thing AI artificial intelligence is telling me to do is I need to call all of us to intellectual honesty in our preaching.

8:24 We need intellectual honesty. We have to be honest, we have to be truthful, we have to be factual. And number five, artificial intelligence is telling me that in this episode, I need to encourage you, the listener, to fact check every single claim you hear on Christian radio, in a Christian book, from the pulpit, from your Sunday school teacher, from your small group leader. Fact fact check everything, fact check everything you hear on the new fact check everything. Verify, Verify, verify, verify, and I hate to see it. Sometimes you got a fact check and verify what you're hearing from the Christian world far more than you have to do from the atheist world. And I know saying that people are gonna get mad, but I just can't tell you how many lies I've heard from from sermons. It's sometimes just staggering, fraudulent misinformation. I've told the story before. I mean, I became a Christian as a teenager here in West Texas, and before that, if I was bored on a Friday night, I would go to these churches back then that were doing these you know, the evils of rock music, where they'd be there on a Friday night telling you all the evils of rock music, telling you stories about the bands, saying things about the lyrics, and then on Saturday they would have a bonfire burn all the albums like there, I don't know, like they're in Nazi Germany. And it was and it was ridiculous because so many of those so called evils of rock and roll music conferences were

9:57 filled with lies, bearing false witness, misinformation, twisting things, misrepresenting things, and back then I couldn't just look it up, but because I knew the music so well, I was like, you don't even know what you're talking about. You're completely lying. That's not even accurate. And I went to just mock Christians. So before I even became a Christian, I was mocking Christians because of all the lies that were saying about popular music that they didn't know anything about. It's just, oh, it's just never ending, never ending within christiandom. So those are the five things Ai says I need to do today. I need to begin with humble reflection. I'm gonna just say it again. I am a liar. Whether I may never share false information from the on this podcast, I hope I never do. I probably will. At some point I will get something wrong. Hopefully I will always come back and apologize hopefully. And I say hopefully because well, I'm a sinful, arrogant man who maybe not be too prideful to admit it. All right, But even though I don't do that, I'm still a liar. My lies just may show up in a different way. But I am a liar, full blown liar, all right. Just and you can sit there and go I'm sorry. You probably are as well if you admit it. Number Two, I need to expose the sermon's inaccuracies. I'm gonna do my very best.

11:23 Number Three, I need to explain why truth matters. I'm going to try to do that throughout this entire episode. I'm gonna call for intellectual honesty. I always do that. I'm going to do that here, and I'm going to encourage you to fact check, fact check, fact check, fact fact check. If I can say that correctly, fact check everything. All right? Does that sound good? All right? Now, what are we talking about? Well, I don't even know what. I would have to look up the dates and everything, and I'll have them in front of me. I started to review a sermon. Well, I actually I started. I started. This is how it all started. On the sermon's two point oh app. There was a live web cast. I started listening to it, and I think it was Wednesday.

12:04 I think it may have been Wednesday, and the pastor mentioned Dietrich Bonhoeffer and his essay, his thesis on stupidity. Well, the fact that it was a church service, a pastor is mentioning Dietrich Bonhoeffer's essay on stupidity. I'm like, this is great. I couldn't even listen anymore because immediately I had to turn on the microphone and I did an hour teaching on Dietrich Bonhoeffer's thesis on stupidity. That it was great, was wonderful. I was so like, I was like, thank you for bringing that up. You gave me a great idea, you gave me over and a subject I could spend over an hour on. That was great. That was wonderful. Thank you. But I wanted to go back and listen to the sermon because the sermon was about what he kept saying, there's a cultural revolution coming, or that it's here, that the culture is undergoing this revolution, and we have to see where it's going. We've got to talk about and we got to know how to protect ourselves from it. And I'm like, oh, well, let's we need to review the whole thing. So I decided to review the entire sermon. Now we didn't make it far because in the sermon, he starts making claims about America, American history, the founding fathers, and then he starts talking about an individual by the name of Thomas Pain. All right, and as soon as as soon as this happened, all right.

13:35 I knew, I knew we're in trouble. As soon as he brought up Thomas Pain, I'm like, we are in so much trouble because I knew what was coming. I knew that in the sermon as he started mentioning Thomas Pain, he was going to go to the famous, basically deathbed conversion story of Thomas Pain. And I knew immediately. I'm like, we're in trouble. We're before we get to the cultural revolution. He wants to talk about. He's going to tell me the story about Thomas Paine, and I guarantee you it's going to be it's gonna be filled with misinformation, if not downright lies. And as we were reviewing it, I lost my ever living mind. I got furious. I got mad, and I got furious and mad because a pastor standing behind a pulpit, in order to try to promote Christianity, to try to point people to the truth of Christianity, is going to take a story about a real human being and what they supposedly said on their deathbed that has been shown to be a fraudulent story over and over and over. They're going to They're going to misrepresent what a human being said and did on their deathbed to promote their religious belief, to promote Christianity. That is twisted.

14:52 That is evil. We do not use lies and misinformation to promote Christianity, and only that you're bearing false witness. There's so many things wrong with what happened, and I got mad and I got furious. So I lost my mind. After that message, I came back and did an apology. I apologize to everyone for losing my mind. I think my anger was right. How I may expressed it, may it wasn't so right. And we talked a little bit about that. So in some ways I was like, well, I'm done. I'm done right, that should be done. I should just move on. So I started listening to the sermon after where we stopped. And I was like, you've got to be kidding me.

15:32 This can't be happening, because basically the claim in the sermon is this the cultural revolution. The cultural revolution is that the culture has abandoned truth, the truth. The culture doesn't like truth. They live in lies. Basically, they are deceived. And I'm like, wait a minute, So in a sermon where you tell all kinds of wrong information, you're gonna condemn the culture and telling lies does not. I mean, the irony in it, the contradiction in it is staggering. So I gave it to Ai, and AI was like, this, this has got this is crazy. So I'm gonna I've got that the sermon queued up. But if I start playing it, it's just gonna go He's gonna go right back through the claims of I've got it queued up to where he goes back and tells the story about Thomas Paine. And instead of doing that, I'm just gonna give you how AI broke this down, and we're gonna kind of walk through my conversation with A. I think we'll do that. I was gonna play the audio, but you've already heard the audio. It's already there. I I and this is not even about trying to point out this pastor or this church. I'm not even I'm not giving the name or anything like that. I'm not even going to do that, right, I'm just gonna go through how AI broke this down. So I'm gonna go all the way back up here, all right, all right? So I gave I attached the this basically what I told Ai, I'm attaching the sermon because AI asked for after after

17:06 I started asking some questions about Thomas pain to verify what I thought. I already knew I was a little fuzzy on certain things about Dietrich Bonhoeffer, so I needed AI to point me to to some facts to make sure I was I was I was accurate because I couldn't be too dogmatic. So but that bit AI knew I was asking these questions because I was listening to a sermon. So AI basically kept asking, can you get me when are you gonna give me the sermon? Provide me the sermon, Provide me the sermon. So finally today I said, I'm attaching the sermon that had the Thomas Paine claims. Please outline, summarize the claims, then contrast them with the condemnation about the culture and truth made in the sermon. So I kind of it was kind of a little fuzzy, but I kind of gave Ai that Now AI is gonna I'm gonna give you AI breakdown.

18:01 I didn't feel like AI really understood exactly what I was asking, so I asked again, and then it really started breaking it down more specifically, and what I needed at first, it's it's somewhat vague. There'll be a little bit of repetition here, but you're but I'm still trying, going to try to accomplish all five things that AI told me to accomplish. All right, So again, I could, I could play part of the sermon, but I don't. I don't know of great value in that. Right, there's no great value because if we start reviewing it, I'm just gonna get all I'm going to get angry and mad and start yelling and screaming and that. Remember AI told me not to do that. So I'm going to be careful here, right, So here's what AI gives me. This sermon, titled Understanding the Cultural Revolution, presents a contrast between biblical truth and the cultural decline in America. The preacher argues that America was founded on biblical principles, but has undergone moral and intellectual decay, largely due to secular influences and the rejection of applute truth, not just think.

19:01 The sermon's whole thing is that the culture there's an intellectual decline. The culture has abandoned absolute truth. While he is saying that about the culture he lies, he spreads lies and false information. I mean, and a sermon where he's spreading false information, fraudulent information, downright lies, he's gonna And the very same sermon condemned the culture that there's an intellectual decline and they've abandoned absolute truth. You can't condemn people for abandoning absolute truth when those of us who supposedly preach absolute truth use lies in order to further our supposed absolute truth. The situation is mind boggling to me. The sermon is framed around Judges twenty one to twenty five. Every man did that which was right in his own eyes, and they use it as an analogy for the cur state of American society. Everyone did that which was right in their own eyes? All right, now, Please don't that's what the the argument is. That's what the world does not us Christians. Oh no, we never do what is right in our own eyes. I mean, we may stand behind a pulpit and give false information and lie, but we never do what is right in our own eyes. I will argue that when you go to that text and Judges, this is just a good hermoneutical test.

20:25 Who's it about who's doing. Right in their own eyes. Is it Israel that's a focus. Is it God's chosen people doing what is right in their own eyes? Or is it a reference to the lost people, to the to the non covenant people. I'm just asking the hermoneutical question. I think that Christians throughout history God's people, Israel, the Church, and in the Church. However you want to define whichever you want to look at before Christ after Christ. I think the Church has just as guilty as doing what is right in our own eyes. I mean, if we weren't all doing what is right in our own eyes, would we have thousands upon thousands of different denominations and nobody can agree literally on anything. We don't agree on baptism, we don't agree on repentance, we don't agree on the Lord's Supper, we don't agree on anything. Maybe because everyone is doing what is right in their own eyes. We have our own harmoneutical systems, our own way of interpreting versus our own private interpretations, while we tell everyone else that they're wrong.

21:26 I know that's a radical thought. I know we love to use That's the world. Everyone is doing what is right in their own eyes. That's the world. I think we may want to look in the mirror. So then AI says, Okay. In the sermon, here's some of the claims made about Thomas Pain and his death, bad words. The preacher presents Thomas Pain as a key figure in America's intellectual decline and states the following about him. So, hey, America started declining, and let's take it back to Thomas Pain. That's where the intellectual decline took place. Now, I guess, as Christians we're not part of this intellectual the client. I guess as Christians we're all the smart ones. Okay, here's some of the things Pains. His famous book, The Age of Reason, led to a cultural shift away from Biblical truth. So the Age of Reason is basically accused as being this thing that leads to a cultural shift away from biblical truth. Pain rejected Christianity and acquitted it with mythology, comparing Christ to pagan child gods. Pain ignored biblical prophecy, leading to an incomplete understanding of Christianity. On his deathbed, he allegedly recanted his views, saying, now this is the story. The sermon tells. This is what he supposedly said on his deathbed. Stay with me, God, I cannot bear to be left alone. Oh Lord help me, Oh God, what have I done to suffer so much?

22:51 I would give worlds if I had them that The Age of Reason had never been published. That's the claims. Now, I've heard that claim and that story about Thomas Pain on his deathbed. I'm going to use hyperbole a billion times, okay. And the reason I'm using hyperbole is because I don't know the exact number, So I'm just saying a billion times to say a lot. I don't know how many, but a lot. I've heard it repeated on Christian podcast, sermons, Christian radio. I've heard it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over, to the point I'm sick of hearing it. So as soon as he started talking about Thomas Pain and the sermon, I'm like, oh boy, here we go. How much I mean?

23:32 I wish right then I could have ran to Vegas, put down a bet, collected all of my winnings because I knew exactly what the sermon was going to do. You said, well, gambling is wrong, but wouldn't it have been great to win a whole lot of money gambling on what a false statement that a sermon was going to make. Come on, there's got to be something right about that. Okay, never mind, right, let's continue, so AI said, reality check. The deathbed quotes attributed to Pain are widely discredited and come from later Christian sources with no eye witness verification. Credible historical accounts from those that were actually at Payne's death, such as his physician and his friend, all confirm that he remained a Deist until the end and did not return to Christianity. So Christians who were not there, we make a claim about someone dying about what they were saying, even though the people who were there are saying none of this is true. So I don't know who. At the very best, a Christian should be like, well, I wasn't actually there, and we got this eyewitness accounts that contradict what I'm saying. Maybe I shouldn't be an arrogant, condescending jerk and make a thing and say things about someone's death that I'm not for sure can one hundred percent say it's accurate. So at the very best, I should not tell said story since I don't have any factions way of knowing if the story is true. Because that would be bearing false witness,

25:04 which I don't know used to be a sin, but it's not really a big sin. It's one of those venial sins, bear false witness, share misinformation. Lie. Do pastors get in trouble for that? No, they're ever going to be church disciplined for that. No are they going to ever be removed from the pulpit. No, they can lie, lie, lie, and it's all good to go. Nobody in the nobody, even in the few cares. Now, Ai goes on to say, here, if I can get back up to hang on what happened here? All right? Let me get back up here to it. I have five hundred pages of notes here, all right. So, Ai says, credible historical accounts from those present Pain's death physician, they all confirm that he remained at dis until the end and did not return to Christianity. The claim that Pain ignored biblical prophecy oversimplifies his views. He actively engaged with biblical texts, he just rejected their divine inspiration. So it whether that he ignored biblical prophecy, he just rejected the divine inspiration of the text. It seems that he actually engaged with the text a lot, Okay, the sermon this is what Ai says. The sermon falsely portrays Pain's final moments and misrepresents historical evidence to support its argument about cultural decline. So and a sermon where you're like, America is in decline intellectually, America has abandoned truth. America is

26:36 doing what is right in their own eyes. While making that claim about the world, He from the pulpit is promoting and sharing absolutely discredited, fraudulent information. The irony there is so I mean, I don't even it's just so ridiculous. I don't even have words for it. Ai continues. The sermon frames modern America as a nation abandoning biblical truth, leading to number one, an intellectual and educational shift. According to the sermon, America was founded on biblical principles, but secular humanism has overtaken education. Thinkers like Charles Darwin John Dewey, who influenced education, were atheists, leading to a godless system.

27:25 Public schools removed prayer. Public schools removed prayer. Yes, I'm in agreement with that. It's a public school. And if you're gonna have someone leading prayer, if it's a now kids can still pray. Now, Okay, I'm gonna get I'm gonna get tick off everyone, but I'm just gonna ahead and get this out of the way because I get so sick of this argument. First, if you want the kids praying, every church in every city can open their doors at six o'clock in the morning and they can invite families, they can invite teenagers, they can invite everyone to stop by and pray before they go to school.

28:06 You can open up your doors of your church at nine o'clock every night and say, before you go to bed, come to church and pray together. You can pray. And then every kid who goes to a public school, whether there's a public prayer or not, guess what that kid can do. That kid can pray all day because you're praying in your mind. You don't have to make a show out of it. You can pray whenever you want. What we're talking about is a publicly led prayer. Because the minute the public school please note it's a public school, it's not a Christian school, it's a public school. The minute you have a Christian led prayer, well, then guess what. Then you should have a Satanist led prayer. You should have a Muslim led prayer. You should have a Buddhist I know which Christian? Do you have a Pentecostal up there going speaking in tongues and making all kinds of crazy prophecies. Do you have a Catholic praying to marry?

28:58 What do you who gets still lead the prayer? Oh, we just need a generic prayer to a generic God. Well, then what point is that that's a waste of time getting prayer out of the public school. I'm all for it. It's a public school. If you want your kids praying at school, put them in a Christian school. If you want your kids praying in school, put them in homeschool. If you want your kids to pray, take them to church. If the church wants people to pray, open your doors at six in the morning so that people can come and pray. The Christian students who want to pray can arrive at school, Go get together anywhere and pray. You're hanging out in the gym, You're hanging out wherever in the hallways. Hey, hey, Tom, come here, let's pray for school today. All right, Hey, Susan, come here, let's pray.

29:53 Oh no, we got to have someone lead them in prayer because I guess our kids can't figure out how to pray themselves, maybe because their youth group is only doing nothing but feeding them pizza. I'm playing foolish games and has a waste of stinking time. Yeah, now I'm being kind of mean. So of course it complains about public prayer being taken out Bible reading was taken out of school. Well that's good. I was in nineteen sixty three. I'm in agreement with both because it's not the school's job to do the church's job. The church is where you pray. The church is where the Bible is read, not the public school. What I want the public school to do is teach reading, writing, arithmetic, science. I want them to teach academics reading comprehension, which, well, you know, all the Christians definitely need that. They don't get me started on how they mean. I was just listening to a sermon a little while ago and saw I'm sixteen.

30:47 I'm still baffling what the world that we're doing there. Okay, so teach that we don't need. Because once you bring religion into the school, which religion Jehovah's Witness, Mormons Catholics, Pentecostals, Bethel Church, the New Apostolic Reformation, Like, well, who's got you want Paula White to come visit your church and say her nonsense? Oh wait, Trump's using never mind, Okay, what No, I don't want religious people anywhere near the situation. And he said this accelerated moral decay. This accelerated moral decay.

31:30 Just remember, just remember Cain and Abel. They probably prayed Cain killed his brother. Oh before public schools, before Netflix, before Elvis Presley and the Beatles, before video games. Oh wait, there was oh wait, let's see what else happened in Genesis. Oh wait, there was homosexuality. There was rape. Oh there was incest where the daughter's like, hey, dare drink this, Let's get drunk and let's be together. Okay, oh yeah, oh the wonderful ol way, all of that happened before I don't know the Bible was taken out of the public school. I think there was plenty of moral decay.

32:14 Oh wait, judges, everyone was doing Do you want to know what everyone was doing? Right in their own eyes? You want to know what happens at the end of the Book of Judges, Go ahead and try to preach that on a Sunday morning with everyone in the sanctuary, you'll probably get some people very very very offended when they hear about what they do to that woman and how they cut her up. Yeah, let's talk about that. Oh wait, that was happening in biblical times. You had murder, you had rape, you had incest, you'd yeah, I mean, you had genocide for crying out loud. But the moral declined when we took the Bible out and everything wasn't moral.

32:54 You know why. There's moral decay because we're all mortally moral, morally depraved. There is moral the kay, because we're all morally depraved. You've got I mean, do we need to go to the Roy's report right now? And in this church and in this church and this church, Oh, there's prayer in Bible reading. But there's sexual assault, children being molested, this happening, and this happening, and this back body slander, gossip, Oh that happens inside the church. Oh wait, there's prayer in Bible reading. All right. So those are some of the claims that the sermon makes you already see I'm already disagreeing with that. Then the uh, the sermon continues again, we're reading AI's review of this sermon that we have already reviewed some.

33:42 Of it before. Ai goes on to say postmodernism replaced absolute truth with subjective truth, my truth versus your truth. Do you not find that absolutely fascinating? And a sermon that's going to say what's happened is that postmodernism replaced absolute truth with subjective truth, my truth versus your truth. In that very song, he then tells absolutely fraudulent truth about what happened to Thomas Paine, and he goes on to make other fraudulent claims about Dietrich Bonhoeffer and about the Nazis. He goes and so he spends like the first part of the sermon giving fragilent information to then condemn society for having no absolute truth. I don't even have words for that.

34:24 The sermon goes on to make the claim that the moral shift parallels Nazi Germany, where people were manipulated into justifying atrocities. Bonheffer's theory of stupidity is reference to argue that secular education leads to blind cultural conformity. No, I want you, I'm gonna argue this that secular education leads to blind cultural conformity. I think the church leads to blind cultural conformity. You think the church doesn't lead people to blind cultural conformity. You conform to the culture of the church or you will be cast out. It's the same process. The sermon goes on to say churches have compromised doctrine, embracing entertainment over worship. Now we can have a good discussion about that. Political correctness has replaced biblical preaching, making the gospel the gospel palatable rather than convicting. Okay, we can talk about that the church mirrors the spiritual passivity of Nazi Germany, choosing silence over truth. All right, there may be even some agreement on some of that, all right, now, Ai says, Okay, looking at this sermon, there's a lot of false equivalencies and oversimplification. While secularism secularism has increased, the historical complexity of America's founding is way oversimplified. The Constitution does not establish a theocracy. The comparison to Nazi Germany is extreme. Modern social changes cannot

35:58 be equated with genocide. The Nazis committed genocide against six million Jews, but we love to say, oh, we're like not everyone likes to say it's like Nazi Germany. It's like Nazi Germany. I know I did the same thing right when I said that when they were burning records, it's like Nazi Germany. Okay, right, it's like the book burning. But it's obviously not like the genocide. To say, you got to be careful when you say that, but we all have a tendency to do that. Bonheffer's theory is misrepresented. The sermon falsely claims Bonhaeffer said the only way to avoid stupidity is the word of God. He did not say this. His argument was sociological, not explicitly philological. So in a sermon talking about the downgrade of intellectualism and how a culture has abandoned truth, he oversimplified things, misrepresented things, and he gave completely fraudulent information about Dietrich Bonhoeffer's thesis and about Thomas Paine's death. I mean, come on, that, oh drives me crazy. The uh Ai says this, all right.

37:08 The sermon presents a nostalgic but historically flawed view of America's past and distorts Bonheffer's argument to fit its cultural critique. All right, The preacher argues, Biblical truth is unchanging and the foundation of society. Secularism has corrupted education ethics in the church. The church must resist cultural drift and return to absolute truth. Then it goes on. AI says, well, these points may contain some valid concerns about moral relativism. The use of historical and accuracies pains false deathbed conversion, misrepresentation of Bonhoeffer weakens the credibility of the message. Don't you think all right? So I, so I talk. So I asked AI to continue to look at the sermon again and kind of really contrast what the sermon is claiming with its false, false claims. And so then AI does this. Ai said, the sermon is an example of self contradiction. I'm like, I know, I know, all right, And this is what how Ai? This is the title AI gives the sermon preaching truth while spreading lies, preaching truth while spreading lies. And I'm like, whoa, that's that's pretty That's a slap in the face. Whenever the pastor

38:41 stands there and is trying to preach truth, but he's spreading lies in the so called preaching of the truth, and it can be lies he's spreading false information. It can be I get about historical claims, claims about modern culture, claims about this, claims about that, claims about this, political claims, cultural claims. If they're giving fraudulent information, they're supposedly preaching the truth while spreading lies. So Ai goes on to say, one of the most glaring contradictions in this sermon is that while it condemns culture for abandoning truth and at the exact same time misrepresents history, distorts the logical ideas, and spreads out right falsehoods Ai says, this exposes a critical irony. The preacher claims to champion absolute truth while using fraudulent narratives to reinforce his cultural argument. He condemns secular humanism and relative truth, but engages in historical revisionism, which is ironically and an example of subjective truth making.

39:56 He reshapes facts to fit his narrative. So, in a sermon that you are condemning secular humanism because they supposedly have relative truth and supposedly engage in historical revisionism, and the exact same sermon, he's doing the exact same thing historical revisionism. He's subjective truth, creating a false narrative to fit his narrative. That this is what, Ai says, the very cultural deception he is warning you about is present in his own message. The thing he's warning you about, don't be deceived, don't let culture deceive you. He's deceiving you, and a message about not being deceived. Ai goes on to say, the sermon insists three things. Number one, Christianity is the source of absolute truth. Number two, culture is rejecting biblical truth in favor of relativism. Christians must resist cultural lies and stand for God's unchanging truth. Ai goes on to say this argument relies on the assumption that the preacher himself is actually presenting the truth. But the

41:27 problem is his own sermon is filled with demonstratable falsehoods. So it makes these claims and then it's telling lies. Ai goes on to say, while decrying cultural deception, the sermon spreads several key falsehoods. Here are the key falsehoods. Number one, we've already talked about it now multiple timesreads the myth of Thomas Pain on his deathbed. The sermon claims that Thomas Pain recanted his deist beliefs on his deathbed and regretted writing the age of reason and cried out to God. The truth is, there is no historical evidence pain ever recanted. Eyewitnesses confirm he died as a diis the problem. This fabricated story is used as proof that rejecting Christianity leads to regret and despair, where in reality it's just a convenient why. Number two, the sermon misrepresents Dietrich Bonhoeffer. The claim in the sermon is that Bonheffer argued that the only way to avoid stupidity is the word of God. The truth Bonhoeffer's letters and papers from prison never say this. His thesis on stupidity is sociological, explaining how people abandon reason under authoritarianism. He did not make it an explicitly philological argument. The problem the preacher

42:58 twists Bonhoeffer's argument to fit his sermon's culture war narrative. Rather than engaging with Bonheffer's actual ideas like he didn't actually pull out he didn't actually do, he completely misrepresented it. Number three, The sermon distorts America's founding and the sermon the claim is that America is founded on biblical principles and the Founding fathers were God fearing men. Here are the facts. The US Constitution does not mention God or the Bible. Many founders, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Benjamin Franklin were Deists, not orthodox Christians. The First Amendment deliberately prevented the establishment of a state religion. The sermon falsifies history to support its argument that America has fallen from its Biblical roots. A fourth problem in the sermon it exaggerated Nazi German Germany comparisons. The claim is that America today is like Nazi Germany because of its rejection of absolute truth.

43:57 The truth is Nazi Germany was not simply a product of relative truth, but of nationalism, radical ideology, and authoritarianism. If you want to compare Nazi Germany to America, look for nationalism. M let me see, is there a national make America great? Oh? Wait, I think nationalism is on the rise. Christian nationalism is on the rise. Now if you want to make a comparison. Oh, but we're not gonna make that comparison because we would take off Christians, right, and we've got to conform to what Christians want, don't we. Oh? Racial, I'm sorry I said radical ideology. Racial ideology was in Nazi Germany clearly right. There was racial ideology, kill all the Jews, all right, and then third authoritarianism. Yeah, I think we can see that in Nazi Germany. Do we have any of those things going on in America?

44:50 I won't say. The majority of Germans were already Christian when Hitler rose to power, and many used Christian rhetoric to justify, not policies. Some of the worst atrocities were justified using absolute moral claims, not relativism. Absolute moral claims were used to justify the atrocities, not relativism. So if you're gonna say Nazi Germany used relativism, you're literally reversing historical reality. In a sermon, man, so Ai says, the over the top analogy is used to instill fear, not provide historical accuracy or constructive critician christian and engagement. So AI rejects all of it, all right. So then Ai was like, here's the issue with the sermon. It uses lies to defend the truth. The preacher's entire message collapses under its own weight because he is guilty of the very deception which he is condemning. All right, So I asked, AI will make me a chart, Make make me a chart, And so AI makes the chart. So it gives me one, two, three, four claims made in the sermon, Then it gives me the reality. Then it gives me the contradiction. All right, So the first claim Christians must stand for absolute truth the reality, the sermon itself spreads falsehoods about history and theology.

46:21 The contradiction. If truth is the standard, why resort to fraudulent claims? The second claim, culture is abandoning moral absolutes for subjectivism reality. The sermon manipulates facts to fit a cultural narrative. The contradiction. This is subjectivism disguised as truth. Oh Man, AI tears this sermon into shreds. Secular education promotes lies and corrupt society. Reality. The sermon misrepresents historical facts to defend Christianity. The contradiction. If secular deception is wrong, why do we use Christian deception? AI does not care.

47:09 AI does not care if it this offends all of us. Right. Next, Bonheffer warned about cultural stupidity. The sermon misquotes Bonhoeffer to fit its argument. Then contradiction, Misusing Bonhoeffer proves the very stupidity it warned about. AI tears this sermon into absolute shreads. So then this is what AI says. The irony in this sermon is absolutely staggering. The preacher preaches against deception while using deception. So then AI says, instead of manipulating history to fit an ideological agenda, Christians should actually adhere to biblical truth. So then AI is like, I'm gonna show you how you should do this. So AI says, therefore, having put away falsehood, let each one of you speak truth with his neighbor, for we are members one of another.

48:19 Ephesians for twenty five. AI starts quoting scripture to combat a sermon. AI reviews a sermon or analyzes a sermony like, this thing is a mess. This thing is staggeringly false. It is staggeringly it's staggering, and it's irony. It's false, it makes lies, it spreads lies. And so AI quotes basically gives a quote to the sermon. Hey, you should probably consider Ephesians four twenty five, AI quoting scripture to us, I love I love technology. I love technology. Because you know why AI can do that, Because AI first is not going to be blind by our little fraudulent misrepresentations that happens in sermons. Second, Ai doesn't care if you don't like it. Ai is not gonna like. Oh, I don't want to offend you. Don't kick me off your theological team. Please let me play your Christian reindeer. Games Ai doesn't care about your Christian reindeer. Games Ai doesn't care about your theological team. It doesn't care if it's not gonna get picked. It doesn't care if it doesn't have the jersey. It doesn't care. It doesn't care at all.

49:33 So Ai says, for those who don't understand, this means Christians must reject false narratives even if they seem to support a Christian worldview. Did you hear that you must? You must reject a false narrative even if it supports a Christian worldview. If it's a false narrative, I don't care if you think it promotes Christianity, supports Christianity. If the narrative is false, rejected, because you care about truth more than you care about quote unquote Christianity. Truth matters if we believe God is the God of truth, and if we believe there's absolute truth, whether that makes Christianity look bad, whether it goes against Christianity at large or we should call Churchianity. I don't care if it offends every Christian. I don't care if every Christian disagrees. Who cares?

50:33 Then Ai AI literally quotes this, A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will perish. And I'm like, WHOA, AI, calm down. It's like AI now is ready to start preaching. It's quoting Proverbs nineteen nine. It says false witnesses will not go unpunished, and he who breathe out lies will perish. And I'm like, WHOA. AI is literally going in and basically condemning a sermon, So men preach a sermon. AI condemns the very men preaching this sermon. That is tough. I mean it quotes a false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will perish. He's literally calling the pastor preaching the sermon a false witness. I didn't say that.

51:22 AI gives me this just from reviewing the sermon. AI goes on to say a Christian's integrity is destroyed when they knowingly spread false information. Now AI may go a little far there, because I don't think the pastor knows he's spreading false information. I don't think he knows. I think he just didn't bother to check. Now, I don't know how you don't know about the Thomas Pain thing, the Dietrich Bonhoffer thing. I can understand why you don't know. Now you could actually read the Dietrich Bonhoeffer thing. I don't know the Nazi Germany thing. Yeah, that's a little harder for you. I mean you'd have to go read everything about Nazi Germany and try to figure out exactly what they were doing. Just remember, everyone uses Nazi Germany to fit their agenda. You can have people on left, right, Christian atheists, everyone uses it all right. So but AI is not done. It's still quoting scripture. Truth. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.

52:13 Truth does not need fabrication. If Christianity is true, then it does not need historical distortions to defend it. That's a slap in the AI is just like slap slap. It's just smacking us right in the face. So then AI says you need to do a follow up episode. You should highlight the contradiction without falling into the same trap of an emotional reaction. So AI is like, hey, you need to address this. Just don't fall into the trap of an emotional reaction. I love how AI is like trying to give me advice here, Hey, you need to address this because this is egregious, this is horrifying, But don't don't. Don't let your anger get hold of you.

52:58 Ain't that crazy? How Ai like, Hey, I know you get angry because and because well you know, I typically feed my messages to AI so it knows how I'm preaching and what I'm doing, so they can because I want Ai to to chal it. I want Ai to tear me apart. I want Ai to tell me where I'm wrong. I will give Ai my messages and say, please analyze this for any factual error, logical error, hermoneutical error, or theological error okay, or you know, emotional breakdown. And just like AI took those other sermons apart, it takes my sermons apart. And sometimes it's not pretty. Sometimes it can be very depressing. When it's over, I can be like, man.

53:42 I feel stupid. I feel stupid. But hey, if AI is willing to do the work. But there you have this. We have a sermon on understanding the cultural revolutions. I want you to understand the significance here. We have a sermon on understanding the cultural revolution. The cultural revolution supposedly is that culture is abandoning absolute truth. It's turning to subjectivism, it's turning to relativism. It's abandoning truth. It does not have absolute truth. It's doing all of these things. And while the sermon is pointing all of that out, it's engaging, and subjectivism, historical revisionism, it's lying, it's misrepresenting. And if we don't understand that, I don't know what we do. How do Christians not catch these things? Every? Look, if I walk through my history as a Christian, all right, if I walk through my history as a Christian, I've had some pretty egregious things I've witnessed, right, I'll never forget.

55:00 In Dallas, Texas, I think it was a Southern Baptist convention. It was a big Southern Baptist meeting with all these preachers, like a big conference. And I was a teenager sitting there with my pastor. The person speaking gives this tearful, sad story we get to church. That was like on a Friday or a Saturday. We come back to church that Sunday, I'm sitting in the pew. My pastor stands behind the pulpit, gives the same illustration as if it happened to him. Me and my friend confronted the pastor after that sermon. We were told, you guys are just straining at NAT's. You're making a big deal out of nothing.

55:52 You're missing the whole point. The point was I was able to tell this story and some people came forward, they walked the aisle, they gave their heart to Jesus Christ. So if I miss if I applied that illustration to me, if I told the stories that happened to me to get the emotions going, you shouldn't be. So you're more worried about me getting the facts right than you are about people coming into the Kingdom of God. Your heart is wrong. And we were basically rebuked for confronting him for literally plagiarism. He made more than plagiarism. He took this emotional story and made it about him. It wasn't about him, but.

56:34 Because it got the emotions going. Now, that's the same pastor who had me going around different churches to tell my testimony and told me when I should cry. Now am I saying, Look, that pastor is a sinner, just like I'm a sinner. For every one thing he did wrong, there was a million things he did right. Okay, he's a sinner just like I'm a center. This is why I believe that we're all sinners. I cannot even tell you how many other things where pastors stood behind pulpits and said this about this person or this thing or this thing, look at men. I used to be all over the sermonadio platform back in the day and and dedicated my life to pointing out all the lies being put forth on the sermonadio platform. I mean, conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory, lie after lie. All. Remember when everybody was talking about the Illuminati, the Illuminati, this the Illuminati, this the Illuminati, this the Illuminati that. Remember when that was the big deal? I guess, I mean the Illuminati was the most well known secret society in the history of mankind because everyone could tell find the Illuminati and everything lies, misrepresentation, lies about Obama, care, lies about Obama, lies about this life, lies about Catholicism, lies about Islam, lies about Satanism, lies about this, lies about misrepresentations, things

58:08 about the flu vaccine, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, more misinformation, more misinformation, more misinformation, And every time I would challenge it, my email box would fill up. Oh you you've been blinded by Satan. You don't see the truth. God is not inside of you. Well, they're spreading lies. They accuse me of working for Satan when these are factual, actual lies that you could say, here's the information, didn't matter, the information. Look what happened when the I can't remember which medical journal it was, it was a medical journal who retracted and recanted and said, look, this was published I don't even know what year, nineteen seventy whatever about vaccines and the information, and this is wrong and it is fraudulent. We got it wrong. So I simply reported, Hey, guys, this argument, this article has been cited by many anti vs to try to disprove vaccines. Well, guess what, it's not true. You can't use this anymore. It's been retracted and they're saying that the information in it was wrong and the study was done incorrectly, and there's problems with it.

59:13 Oh my goodness, did I get attacked. I wasn't even supposed to report the actual fact that the story that they think had been retracted. No, no, no, no, Because vaccines are a part of a Satanic plot to destroy all of us and put you know, nanobots inside of our bodies, and we're all going to be taken over by the anti crisis. It's the mark of the beast and all just non crazy, ridiculous stuff. I remember when my pastor in Nebraska said things about promise keepers flat out lies. Now back then we couldn't just look it up. We had to call promise keepers confront them as lot. He was not happy. I've told the story a million times visiting the church here in West Texas. Is when I moved back to Texas, telling everyone that this atheist woman was trying to get Christian television taken off the air.

1:00:06 Everyone signed a petition and the whole thing was a hoax made up by atheists to make Christians look stupid. Did they care, No, nobody. They Christians never apologize. They never. We can't just spread more lies and more lies and more lies. But we always spread the lies, claiming that we have the truth that we're spreading the truth, and then when we're confronted that we don't have the truth, we just double down. I've often said the difference between society. Now, we could get into a discussion about this all the way around, but there have been points in society, points in history where the difference between the church and culture is this. The culture just rejects absolute truth and says, my truth is my truth, Your truth is your truth.

1:00:54 Where the church spreads lies and misinformation but just claims that they have divine authority and that they're right and that God is on their side. We spread lies in the name of God, and the culture just says there is no truth. So we say there is truth, but we spread lies, and that we disguise it as truth. We disguise it as God's truth. The church's deception is far more evil than the world's. The world just says there is no truth. We reject truth. The Church says, no, we believe truth, and then we spread truth in the name of God. We spread, we spread, we spread lies and the in the and what we spread lies, what we supposedly are preaching truth. So in a sermon that gives all these falsehoods and AI went through all those falsehoods.

1:01:50 Remember all the falsehoods the sermon gave. Let me go back through all of it. It spread and promoted the Thomas Paine deathbed myth. It misrepresented Dietrich Bonhoeffer, It distorted America's founding, It exaggerated a Nazi Germany comparison, and basically it used lies to defend truth. I so what do I want you to take from it? That? Okay, here, I guess this is where I need to end up. Look, there was a time it would be difficult to look up some of these things, be very hard, right, You'd have to do a lot of work you'd have to do, and sometimes, you know, you could be working on it for a very long time. You could spend hours, maybe a month, trying to track down sources and information, and then you could bring it to someone and they would just laugh in your face, so it wouldn't matter. And the same thing happens today. Now now you can get the truth instantaneously. But I mean, have you ever I don't hate to say this, I'm going to offend some people argue with a Trump supporter. The minute you provide information that contradicts what Trump has said, they will immediately claim that your information is fraudulent and fake because what Trump says is truth. Anything that contradicts it is fraudulent.

1:03:15 If that's not the sign of being an occult, I don't know what is. But you see that over and over and over because Trump made it like fake news. Anything that reports something contrary to what he thinks, says, or believes is fake news. What a way? What a way to live? Anything that contradicts what I think is fake news? Any well, then there's no point in even doing the research. Now, the difference with twenty twenty five is I can now use AI, and within five seconds I can pretty much dismantle any claim you make, or I can verify any claim I make. So a pastor who's going to make claims could have written out all of his claims, given it to AI and say please critique this, checking this for factual, logical, philological, and harmoneutical errors.

1:04:09 Thank you. And we saw what AI did when I asked it to do that. It absolutely tore it into shreds. Now, what does that tell you that it would have taken the pastor five seconds? Five seconds. I've got thirteen lies, I've got an article here with thirteen lies that Trump has said within the first I think two weeks of being president. Thirteen just absolute, completely verifiable lies. Now I see the difference is I don't care to get into that because then it gets into a political argument. I tell you that it's a lie Trump support, We'll say I don't care, or who cares whatever, Who cares, But it's Christians. It's Christianity that I care about.

1:05:10 Now the world out there fighting politics, it's okay. Now, Christians who begin to spread political lies and do so in the name of God, now that bothers me. If they do it in the name of their president, do it in the name of their party, do it in the name of their MAGA movement, or in the name of their liberal movement or progressive movement. As long as it stays outside of Christianity, you guys go fight and argue. I'm just going to walk by, drink a coke, eat some Dorito's, and say, man, that looks like a that looks like a big fight, and I don't care. I'm not getting involved. I don't care. You guys just yell and scream at each other, burn all the buildings down. I'm walking past you, and I'm going to read a systematic theology. Goodbye.

1:05:51 Now. Once I walk by the church and then the church is spreading lies, then that's where I get bothered, only because we claim that we care about truth and that we don't bear false witness and we put away lying and we speak the truth, and that God hates lying lips, and that false witnesses will be judged. Now to be fair, well, I walk past the church and I want to stop and go in and may say, guys, this is fraudulent information. I better take a few minutes before I walk in that church to go sit down and say, God, I'm going to confront this false information, but I better do so acknowledging one thing. I am a liar inside and outside.

1:06:41 So I have confronted these falsehoods. But let me make it very clear. I'm a man of lying lips. I have a heart that's deceitful above all things. I'm a liar with a microphone. I'm a degenerate with a microphone. I'm a sinner with a microphone. I've been a liar who stood in pulpits and lied because I'm a liar, and I've gotten things wrong as well, we Deception is a part of who we are. We come from the womb telling lies, we misrepresent, we embellish, we add too, We get our facts wrong, we don't tell the story exactly right. It's a problem we all have. So to call this out, I have to call myself out. Now.

1:07:40 I'm not justifying any of us getting it wrong, but we have to admit that that fact. And that's why. Again I believe in total depravity. And again I believe that God's standard is be perfect internally externally and thought, word, deed, desire, and that we all fall short twenty four hours a day, seven days a week. So I'm in a perpetual state of sin. One of those perpetual stat of sims is deception in some way, shape or form, sometimes even telling the truth, but in such a way in order to deceive. You've done it. I've done it. But this preaching truth while spreading lies, I think there was a time pastors got away with it. What my hope is is that day is over. You can no longer be preaching truth while spreading lies, because at least the new generation can be fact checking you in real time.

1:08:42 The older generation will not. But that newer generation probably has an AI app on their phone, can literally be checking you in real time. Sometimes we're just going to be sharing fraudulenty. Well I put it this way now, actually, I'm gonna take that back. I was going to kind of make an excuse the point. Now every pastor can fact check their sermons. So there you go. There's no more there's no more an excuse before you could say, well, the pastor, I mean, you can only look up so many sorts, like you only have so many books in your library, right, I mean you can only look up so many things. In many cases, there was a time, and I know this, I couldn't go verify everything. I'd see this in a book or or this about church history, this about Athanasius, or this about Origin, or this about you know, Jacob Arminius, or this about Calvin, and I'd only have so many sources, and I'd have to go with what was there. And sometimes I would find out later, oh that story a story is not necessarily true. And then what can you do. You can only get up in the pulpit say, guys, my information was wrong, this was fraudulent, this was wrong information, this was not accurate.

1:10:00 I was wrong. I was wrong. It's my fault. Sometimes you wouldn't even find out for a year or two years later, until you stumbled upon a new book, or you had more money and you could buy another book, or you could get to a library and you found the right book to look up. The Internet helped a lot, but a lot of that is basing on which articles you remember. A Google search, I mean it only gave you the information you could find. It didn't verify whether the information was factual or not factual, So then you would have to look at the source. Sometimes you would trust a Christian source over a non Christian source. In many cases, the Christian source was the one giving you the false information. Now AI can actually fact check it and challenge it, or at least say not verified, can't I don't know for sure, and sometimes I have to fact check AI to be honest. AI still has some issues.

1:10:51 I remember AI gave me a quote. Gave me a quote, and I was like, uh, are you sure this person said that. He was like, well, it's attributed to but we don't know for sure. I'm like, well, then tell me when you don't know for sure, don't just say here's the name of the person who said it, because everyone attributes it to that person. I don't care if fifty people attribute. If we don't know for sure, tell me. And so I had to tell my AI app don't do that. I don't challenge tell me when something is not certain, and AI was like, okay, I will. I won't try to do that and make sure because I'm like no, I and I tell AI all the time it look challenge me, question me, tell me when I'm saying something wrong. You know, don't hold back. Slap me in the face, punch me in the face, kick me, body, slam me, throw me through a wall, okay.

1:11:44 Because truth is what matters. Now, I hope that worked. Some of you may be like I wish I could hear the sermons saying these things. I'm just telling you what the sermon said. But I mean, we'd already reviewed part of it. So I'm sorry hitting the mic. But I didn't. If I start, you know, if I start. Doing this all over their quotes, everything that they wrote, they had references to God, They had references to what they called the Supreme Being or our benevolent friend George Washington. It is a no, that's the sermon and right there he's he's saying all these things about the Founding Fathers, and there's not accurate rep he's misrepresenting that some of those Founding Fathers are were not Christians, they were Deists, they were Unitarians, so it's not even a factual. And then and then from there he goes right into Thomas Pain and starts making and then he goes into the whole Thomas Pain on his deathbed. Oh boy, here we go, and then quotes supposedly what Thomas Paine said and doesn't bother to tell anyone. Yeah, so I could have played it, but yeah, I don't think it accomplished anything. All Right, we've got seventy two minutes on this Saturday evening. It's now a little after seven pm. You've got church tomorrow.

1:12:56 Hopefully you do when you get to church tomorrow. Double check, triple check, verify. Now, I will say this to just make I will say this whenever if you, and especially to any young people who hear this, If you are first, if you're verifying something during a sermon, this is what I would challenge you to do. Write it down, verify later so that you're not disrupting the people around you pay attention to the sermon. You can just write it down quickly verify this. Just put verify and then write out a sentence. Verify. Write out the sentence, right, Okay, don't do it during the sermon. I know that there's going to be a tendency for some to want to do that. That's not respectful to the pastor, right because the pastor is trying to preach and he sees you they're doing whatever. I've had people do that while I'm trying to preach a sermon, and you can see them in the back and they're doing their own Bible study. They're looking up cross right there.

1:13:54 Immediately there was something I said they did not like, and now they're on a tangent back there trying to prove me. You just want to stop the sermon and go, well, do you want to just come up here? You know? And that's so disrespectful. There's there's not even a word that ticks me off so much. So don't do it during the sermon. After the sermon, verify. If it is fraudulent, do not tell anyone else. Contact the pastor and in private and say hey, I'm not sure you're aware of this, but that's not accurate. Now at that point, you've you've handled your yourself in a respectful, upright manner. Right if and and and uh, if the sermon has been uploaded to the church website, the pastor can pull it down or the pastor can leave it and record a retraction.

1:14:46 But if the pastor doesn't retract it and doesn't pull down the sermon. I would leave the church. That's what I would do. Now, you can make your own decision, but handle yourself correctly when you're checking. Don't make a scene. Do it in. Private contact and private now once, because once it's put on the internet, once it's now public, well then it can be publicly critiqued, it can be publicly analyzed. I mean, it's free game at that point. You know, even fair use law allows you to take something, review it, criticize and analyze it for educational purposes. So it's free game at that point.

1:15:38 But you can help. And if they don't want your help, then you know, then what's the point Then you move on. Now if they can come back and say, well, your information is completely wrong, here's here's what I have. But if what they have is again not primary source it's using some secondary, third hand source that's quoting something else, that's quoting something else, and they're not going to run down and do proper research. Then you know I would leave. I wouldn't make it a big deal. I wouldn't make it a big scene. I would just say, well, you know what, I don't know if this church is for me, thank you for everything you've done, and just leave. You don't have to tell anybody else why you left. You just say well, I just felt this church is no longer for me, and move on. You don't have to make it a big scene. You don't have to make it a big deal.

1:16:18 You don't have to gossip and slander, you don't have to go anywhere. You can just move on. And if someone and or you could say, well, go listen to the sermon, if it's posted online, listen to the sermon on the state, that's why I left, and you don't have to explain why. And if they can't figure it out, well then that's on them, especially if they left it online. If they left it online, there's no problem in saying well I left because of that sermon, and then they can go listen for themselves. So yeah, all right, thanks for listening everyone, have a great night. Times are definitely a changing God bless