Feb. 7, 2025
Permanent and Provisional
A look at a list of things we received in salvation and a discussion about if they are permanent or provisional.
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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is
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the Theology Central podcast, making Theology Central. Good evening everyone.
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It is Thursday, February sixth, twenty twenty five. It is
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currently six fifty pm Central Time, and I am coming
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to you live from the Theology Central studio located right
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here in Abilene, Texas. Now, if you have a pencil, well,
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you can use pen Okay, you can use a mark
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or you can use whatever. If you have something to
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write with, you'll need some paper or at least you
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know something to write on. And I want you to
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write down two words. I want you to write down
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the word permanent. And secondly, I want you to write
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down the word provisional. Permanent, provisional, permanent, provisional. And we're
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going to talk about, well, is this permanent, is it provisional?
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What's the difference? What does this mean? Why are we
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going to talk about permanent and provisional? And we're going
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to talk about all of that, but before we can,
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we have to talk about something that wasn't permanent. And
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that's the title of my last broadcast, my last broadcast.
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If you noticed when you looked at the sermon's two
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point oh app or if you're looking on Spotify or
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any of the podcasting apps, you would have noticed that
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I called, and I gave the title for that last
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episode Hebrews and seventy a D. Hebrews and seventy a D.
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All right, maybe it should it be Hebrews and seventy eighty. Okay,
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maybe I've got the whole thing grammatically incorrect. Okay, but
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I put seventy a D. That's how I wrote it out,
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seventy a D. And I didn't give it any thought.
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I just moved on. And the reason I didn't give
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it any thought is whenever I'm preaching or teaching on
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seventy a D, I always say seventy a D, seventy
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a D seventy That's how I always speak. Seventy a
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D seventy eighty. I say it a million times, right,
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seventy a D, seventy a D, and I always speak
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it that way. That's how I always speak it. Never
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gave it any thought, never, never was an issue, just never.
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So when I typed the title, then I put seventy
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a D. However, you'll notice it no longer reads seventy AD.
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That title was not permanent it was a provisional title.
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It changed, all right. And what changed is now it
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reads AD seventy A D seventy. Now why did I
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change it? Well? I changed it because someone emailed me
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at two forty four pm Central time and pointed out, hey,
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that's not actually correct, and I was like, okay, that's man.
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Oh now I feel dumb. Now I feel foolish. Now
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I know I could just change it. Ninety nine percent
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of you would never even notice. You probably didn't even
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notice that it was changed. Most people probably wouldn't care
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if it says AD seventy or seventy eighty. Some of
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you would. But the point is, I do want to
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be accurate. I do want to be correct because well,
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I mean the other day I was I was challenging
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and correcting a podcast because they kept saying, you know,
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this happened in thirty three AD, and then they were
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pulling facts from sixty six AD, and I was going
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after their accuracy and not being factual. All right, So
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I do want to be as accurate as possible. Now
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I'm the first one to admit, like, I'm not willing to.
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You know, by no means am I trying to. I
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try to be as real as I can. I'm the
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first one to acknowledge grammatically not always the best, right,
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I'm not always the best. You can hear sometimes my
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subject verb agreement, and you can hear sometimes I say
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a lot of things incorrectly, And I know I'm very
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bad when it comes to sometimes being grammatically correct. And
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ever seen anything I've ever written, Punctuation is not a
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strong It's not my strong point either, Okay, So I
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tend to go with my strong suit would be like ideas,
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big ideas, breaking ideas down necessarily, especially writing it. I'm
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by no means am I strong at that. I think
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when college professor said, you have great content. Great when
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you write, it's amazing. Great, whether you're writing a story,
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whether you're writing this, The content is great, just you've
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got to learn to state it in a more grammatically
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accurate way. And maybe you know, I don't know, you
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want to throw in some kind of punctuation because it
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looks like just one long run on sentence. So I
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know that I have that weakness. I'm the first one
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to admit that. But because if I'm going to challenge
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accuracy somewhere else, I need to be challenged so someone
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pointed out they emailed me and said, AD goes before
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the number A D seventy, meaning the year of our
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Lord seventy unless it is a century when it come
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where it comes before second century AD. And then so
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the person was was, you know, kind of like they were, Yeah,
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I think they were being somewhat friendly about it. But
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I was like, oh man, they they got me, they
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got me here, and so I immediately changed it. Now
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to be fair, I will throw this in there. Ady
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seventy is structured according to the Latin convention. Right, it
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really is, since AD and O domini right means in
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the year of our Lord. In Latin, the adjectives and
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descriptive phrases typically precede the noun they modify, which is
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why AD seventy follows that order in the year of
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our Lord, right, and the year of our Lord seventy.
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That's if you were to write it out in the
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year of our Lord seventy. However, modern English generally places
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adjectives and descriptive phrases after the noun the year seventy
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A D, which is why seventy AD feels more natural
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to many English speakers. So that's the way I always
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say it seventy a D, seventy a D, seventy a D,
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seventy a D. Because I say that, then in my mind,
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well that's how I'm going to write it. So AI,
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this is how AI says it. While eighty seventy reflects
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the Latin structure and is technically the traditional and academically
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preferred form, seventy a D follows a more natural English
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word order, which explains why it's commonly used in non
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academic settings. Now it's a podcast title a non academic setting,
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well it is. However, if your podcast is about theology,
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about being accurate, well then I should have done it correctly.
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So I definitely made that change. So it was not permanent.
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It was provisional. I will say this, All of my
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titles are provisional and can be changed, and they needed
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because now I need to go back and look at
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the whole thing. I think the whole thing is grammatically incorrect.
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I think the whole thing is messed up. So I
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will go back and make sure it's grammatically correct, and
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I do apologize for that, and because I do want
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to be accurate, and I'm grateful to someone took the
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time to email me and point that out. But I
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wanted to. I wanted it to be acknowledged, right because
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I don't I do not like and I do get
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bothered sometimes when when I've listened to a sermon and like,
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you know, the whole thing is just a train wreck.
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The whole thing is just like a mess. In many cases,
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they won't come back and offer a correction. They'll just
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delete it and it's no longer. I think. I like
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to leave my in some ways, I would like to
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have left my mistake. If I had enough room in
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the title, I should have just left put two titles there,
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the incorrect one and the correct one. That would be better,
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because that's the way we all learn, right. If you
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see my mistakes, then you won't make the same mistake.
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I mean, there's lots of times with grammar or punctuation,
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someone else will say something. I'll be like, oh, okay,
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I got to remember not to do that, because I
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do that all the time. I do that all the
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time because I do. I do make some serious mistakes sometimes,
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so that I wanted to just get that out there,
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to offer the correction and put the correction on record.
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But it also serves as a good example of permanent
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versus provisional. Permanent versus provisional. Well, it may not be
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a great example of provisional, but it's a great example
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of not being permanent. Right. So here's what's going on.
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Here's what we're going to do. This is going to
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go relatively quick. This we're going to go back to.
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I still have that sort of The Lord newspaper right
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here in front of me from January third, twenty twenty five.
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I am getting my money money's worth for that, or
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I should say you're getting your money's worth from this paper.
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I mean, you didn't pay for the paper, but you're
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getting your money's worth because I'm tearing this issue apart,
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and really it's amazing how many hours of broadcasting can
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come from just a few things and an issue of
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the sort of the Lord newspaper. But on page twenty
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one they have an article entitled seventeen Things that come
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with Christ. That article caught my attention because I took
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a course at a Bible institute I attended. I think
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it was like a semester long, and we had to
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go through all the things that we obtain because of salvation,
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and we had to find it and then you know,
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explain what it was and cross reference scriptures and just
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kind of it was almost like a semester long project.
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I loved it. I thought it was fun. I thought
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it was great. So I'm like, oh, this seventeen things
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that come with Christ. Okay, I wonder if are going
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to have the same things. I was just kind of
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interested to see where there was going to go. Now,
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they quoted Hebrew six ' nine, which immediately kind of
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bothered me a little bit because they quote Hebrew six
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' nine and immediately, in fact, in this entire article
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where Hebrew six ' nine is the text, they never
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reference eighty seventy or seventy a D. They never reference
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it once. And that's why I did the last broadcast
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about Hebrews and seventy a D. All right, so so
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we've already covered seventy a D. We've covered everything about it.
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But I'm going to read here a little bit of
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the article and wait till you listen for the words
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permanent and the words and the word provisional. Are the
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word permanent and the word provisional? You're ready? Here we go.
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Now once they quote they quote Hebrew six ' nine.
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But beloved we are persuaded better things of you and
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things that accompany salvation. Now again we and you, we
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have identify the we and you. The you is not
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you and me the Okay, it has a historical context.
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Go back and listen to the last broadcast. Now, of course,
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this article doesn't start with the original recipients. It starts
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with good news exclamation point. When you received Christ. You
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received not only eternal life, but also many other things
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that came with Christ. Okay, Now, immediately I stop and go.
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You quoted Hebrew sixt' nine. How in the world have
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we been injected into this? How did we end up here?
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Are we not going to talk about Hebrew six '
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nine in its original context and how it relates to
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eighty seventy or seventy AD? But okay, it's not going
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to do that. I should have expected that. They go
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on to say, at that time, the article continues, at
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that time, you speaking of us may have been unaware
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and unknowing. Even now you speaking of us maybe un
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away where and unknowing of all the bundled things you
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received with Christ inconceivable. Well, can I wait a minute,
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I don't know how this all became about us? But
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it all became about us. All right, great, we've covered that.
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Next paragraph. You're ready, Here we go. Next paragraph. At salvation,
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Christ welcomes you into the Family of God. They quote
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John Chapter one, verse twelve. I don't quote, yes, put
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it in parentheses. Are you ready? At salvation, Christ welcomes
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you into the Family of God with at least seventeen
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additional unearned and unexpected gifts. So when you become a Christian,
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you receive, according to this seventeen additional unearned and unexpected gifts. Right,
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these are Now it's going to list the seventeen. Are
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you ready. You may want to write these down. It's
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going to list seventeen faith, belief, repentance, atonement, amputation, reconciliation, ransom, regeneration, justification, grace, mercy, propitiation, adoption, redemption, sanctification, peace,
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and eternal life. Besides these in my list, there are
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may there may be more incomprehensible. All right, now, let's
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go through this again. According to this article, when you
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get saved, I'm gonna read directly their words. When at salvation,
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Christ welcomes you into the family with at least seventeen
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additional unearned and unexpected gifts. This seems to be trying
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to claim these seventeen things is what you get when
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you become saved. Now there's art. We could get into
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a whole argument about order salutis in the order of salvation.
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This gets into a major theological dispute. I'm not here
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to engage in that dispute right now. I'm looking for
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the words permanent and provisional. That's what that's that's all
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I want to focus on right now. Because some of
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you are like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait
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a minute, wait some do some of these procede salvation?
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into that philological argument Christians are not agreed upon. I
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know it's shocking. In two thousand years there's still no
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agreement upon that. But just those are the seventeen things.
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Let me name them one more time, and I really
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challenge you to write these down right So at salvation,
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Christ welcomes you into the family with at least seventeen
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additional unearned and unexpected gifts. Are you ready? Here we go,
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Number one faith belief. I'm going to count these out.
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You can just write them down and write down the
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number so number one are well, I'm just not going
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to give number faith, belief, repentance, atonement, amputation, reconciliation, ransom, regeneration, justification, grace, mercy, propitiation, adoption, redemption, sanctification, peace,
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and eternal life. Besides these in my list, there may
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be more incomprehensible. All right, next paragraph, the next paragraph here,
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