Aug. 28, 2024

One Faith

One Faith

We return to the 2024 Salt and Light conference

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We return to the 2024 Salt and Light conference

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is

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the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central. Good morning everyone.

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It is Wednesday, August the twenty eighth, twenty twenty four.

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It is currently ten fifty three am Central Time, and

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I am coming to you live from the Theology Central

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studio located right here in Abilene, Texas. Now, I'm currently

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feeling a little overwhelmed. I feel like there's so many

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different things we are working on, and I need to

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try to finish some of them up so that we

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can move on to new things. Now. The big thing

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that we have been working on all of twenty twenty

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four is the Sermons two point oh app sermon Challenge. Remember,

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starting in December of twenty twenty three, I told everyone

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to download the Sermons two point oh app and what

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was the challenge? Every single day you would open up

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the Sermon's two points oh app and find a random sermon.

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You're not looking for a specific speaker or a specific

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kind of church, or one from a specific philological stream.

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You are just listening at random. And then you are

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to write down the name of the sermon, the name

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of the speaker, and then write out a like a

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one sentence, maybe a little longer summary of what the

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sermon was about. And the goal was when you reach

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the end of twenty twenty four, your notebook would record

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and have for you every single sermon you listened to,

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and one sermon per day for the entire year. That

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was the goal. Now to mix things up and to

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make it a little bit more FuMB fun, not FuMB fun.

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I gave you specific themes or specific focuses this week.

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You're only going to look for sermons on this specific

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passage of scripture, or this specific specific philological theme, or

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whatever the case may be. And so we have done that.

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We have been relatively successful, I think, and doing that,

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I don't know. I mean, I don't know exactly how

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many people have been participating, but I think most of

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the people who are participating have said it's been beneficial

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and they've listened to more sermons maybe this year than

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they ever have. So that's a great thing. And not

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only that you're hearing other speakers, you're hearing other perspectives.

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I may agree, I may disagree. That's irrelevant. You're getting

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an opportunity to hear those and then here on this podcast,

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what I'm doing is I'm participating with you, and then

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I'm reviewing sermons, So you're hearing the sermon itself, you're

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hearing my analysis and critique of it, and you get

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to hear two different, usually radically different perspectives, which only

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helps you as a listener. So that's been a big

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thing we have been working on. Recently. We've been working

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on the theology of Charles Finnie and how utterly heretical

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it was, So that's been interesting. There but there and

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don't forget. We're also working through the entire Book of Romans,

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looking at all the their furs, and we realize that

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there's about five different Greek words that are translated therefore,

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at least in the King James and New King James.

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And so we looked at those five. Well, we've looked

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at four of the Greek words. We have the fifth

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one coming up on Sunday. I started in Romans one

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twenty four. Wow, I offered a radically different perspective on that.

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So we're working on the there fors, we're working on

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the theology of Charles f Manny. Were kind of moving

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on past that. Oh and don't forget right now, all

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of the Bible colleges and Bible and Christian universities and seminaries.

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The school is in the air, and so I challenged

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everyone to start on the sermon's two point oh app

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look up every Bible college, every Christian university, every seminary,

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every Bible institute, and follow them so that you can

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keep track of what's going on in these Bible colleges

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and seminary because that kind of gives you an idea

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of what the future is going to look like, because

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these are the next generation Christian leaders being trained today.

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So listen to all of that audio today. Bob Jones

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was live broadcasting just a little while ago their chapel service,

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and it looks like they're making a lot of changes

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to their chapel service in a way to try to,

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I guess, make it more beneficial. I've got lots of questions.

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We may review that audio. I've got lots of questions

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about chapel services and Christian universities and Bible colleges. I

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really do. And they kind of gave their philosophy. They

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kind of saw chapel as a spiritual pep rally. That's

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kind of an interesting concept. So we could definitely talk

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about that, oh, and don't forget, and that brings us

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to what we're about to do. I also, well, I've

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been telling you about a number of the conferences that

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you can find all the audio two on the sermon's

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two point o app. But there was one a few

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weeks ago, maybe a month ago, called the Assault and

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Light twenty twenty four conference Salt and Light twenty twenty

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four conference, and I think it was from I think

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I have it.

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Pulled up here. I have it pulled up here.

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It was held at where is it? Tyler Primitive Baptist Church.

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The twenty twenty four Salt and Light Conference held at

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Tyler Primitive Baptist Church. Now, this conference I found to

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be somewhat interesting because the goal of the conference really

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was to look at Ephesians chapter four, really verse four

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and five, the Phisians chapter four, verses four through five.

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Let me read them. Ephesians chapter four, verses four through five.

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There is one body, one spirit, even as you were

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called in one hope of your calling, one Lord, one faith,

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one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is

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above all and through all, and in you all. I

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guess if Ephesians four four through six would be the

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more accurate way to say this. So let me read

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that one more time. Theesians chapter four, verse four. There

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is one body and one spirit, even as ye are called,

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and one hope of your calling, one Lord, one faith,

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one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is

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above all and through all, and in you all. That

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was really the focus of the conference. Now, as I

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started listening to the conference and I started reviewing some

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of the audio, I found myself somewhat struggling, right because

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they were just really like, we're just going to focus

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on one God. We're just going to focus on and

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Father of all. We're just gonna focus on that. And

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I was like, well, wait a minute, wait a minute.

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You can't just go to Ephesians four and jump into

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verse four five and six without some explanation about what's

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going on, right, And I made the argument that everything

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in Ephesians four, five and six is connected to what

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we find in Ephesians one, two and three. Fact that

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gave everyone a challenge go through Ephesians four, five and

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six and look at every verse and then see how

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it connects to something in Ephesians one, two and three.

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Because Ephesians one, two and three is the really the

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philological exhortation. It's the it's the theological teaching Ephesia. If

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I said Exodus, Ephesians one, two and three is the

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theological philological exhortation, it's really the theological teaching. It's the

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theological explanation. It's the theological challenge. That's Ephesians one, two

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and three. Starting in verse four. What do we find, Well,

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I therefore we have a therefore in Ephesians four one,

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which indicates a transition. Now it transitions from the philological

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exhortation to the practical exhortation now based off that theology.

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Here now is the practical aspects, where you take the

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theology and it now has practical implications. So I was like,

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you can't just have a conference go to Efusians four

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and just jump in there and forget the entire structure

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of the book. This is the practical exhortation that flows

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from the philological in a sense explanation, if you want

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to say it that way. So you have to connect

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it to the philological foundation found in chapters one, two,

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and three. They didn't really seem to do that, and

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not only that, I was like, well, wait, a minute.

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Based off all of the theology and chapters one, two

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and three. What does Paul immediately do? He says, well,

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I therefore the prisoner of the Lord. That we could

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get into a long discussion there beseech you. Now here's

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the practical exhortation. He's exhorting them. He's beseeching them, he's

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pleading with them, he's begging them, he's calling them based

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off the theology of one, two and three, I'm calling

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you to do what that you walk worthy of the vocation?

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Wherewith you are called? All right? So he wants them

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to walk worthy? All right? So how do they walk worthy?

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What does that look like? Well, with all listen, with

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all lowliness, meekness, long suffering, for bearing one another in love,

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endeavoring to keep the unity. So if you want to

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walk worthy, you need to keep the unity. But how

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can you walk worthy? And how can you keep the unity?

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What does that look like? Well? What does it look like?

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Here we go? Are you ready? You need lowliness, you

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need meekness, you need long suffering, You need to forbear

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be for bearing one another in love. Then you have

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to endeavor it, you have to work at it. So

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you need a certain you need certain attributes. You need

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certain characteristics, and those characteristics are lowliness, meekness, long suffering,

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for bearing one another in love. Now we have looked

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at lowliness, we have looked at meekness today. I wanted

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to get to long suffering, but I also wanted to

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get us back to the conference just to hear how

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they're handling everything. But you need the those things, and

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then you have to endeavor to keep the unity of

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the spirit of the bond to piece. Now, so there

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is I've got to work to maintain this unity, but

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it requires certain characteristics and attributes. Then from that flows

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there is one body, one spirit, even as you're called

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in one hope of your calling. Then verse four and

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five kind of almost just restates the philological reality. Here's

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the theilological reality. This is what the theological reality should

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look like. It should look like there is one body,

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one spirit. That's the way it should look based off

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the philological truths of chapters one, two, and three. But

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you're going to have to endeavor to keep this unity,

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to have this oneness, You're gonna have to work at it.

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But it's going to require certain attributes. Well, I kept

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feeling that they didn't really connect it to one. They

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just kind of wanted to go to four, five, and

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six and just take each one of those phrases upon

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But I think those phrases require Chapter four, verses one,

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two and three, with an understanding of all of this

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is flowing from chapters one, two and three. That was

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my And so that just shows you how people can

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approach the scriptures from a very different perspective. So we

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need to look at lowly, we need to look at

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long suffering, and we need to look at for bearing

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one another in love. We will get to those, But

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since all of this started by listening to these messages

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from the twenty twenty four sultan Like Conference, I wanted

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to return to the sultanl Like Conference and I wanted

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to look at how they handled this phrase one faith,

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one faith. And the main reason I wanted to listen

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to this one they say one faith, and they refer

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to it as the problem, and I'm like, ooh, I

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I want to know how they handle this, because wouldn't

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it be great if we had really just one faith.

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Now you could argue, well, theologically we only have one faith,

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but practically we don't have anything close to one faith.

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Christians don't agree on baptism. Christians don't agree in the

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Lord's Supper. Christians don't agree on church structure. Christians don't

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agree on the word repentance, on the word baptism. We

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don't agree on salvation. Literally, you can take any verse

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of the Bible and you will have you can get

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fifty different interpretations Christians just we disagree on which hermaeneutical system.

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We disagree on, eschatology, ecclesiology, you just name theology we disagree.

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So how can we have one faith? Now you could argue, well,

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theoretically and are theiologically there is one faith philologically, but practically,

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how do we find that one faith and come to agreement? Well,

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the first thing that's required, really, not only is that

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philological understanding of one, two and three. I think really

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you need these attributes lowliness, meekness, long suffering, for bearing

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one another in love, and then you have to endeavor

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to keep the unity. Say, that's why I keep going

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to Chapter four, verses one, two and three, because I

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think four, five, and six can't be understood apart from one,

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two and three. That's my hermeneutical argument. They don't seem

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too worried about connecting it so far on what we've heard,

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I don't know what they're going to do. Let's find out.

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So let's go back to the twenty twenty four someng

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Like conference a Tyler Primitive Baptist Church as we try

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to kind of what this is part of our sermon's

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two point oh app challenge. So I want you to

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go listen to all the messages from that conference again.

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Just look up Tyler Primitive Baptist Church twenty twenty four

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salt Like. There's thirteen messages. Listen to them all. Take

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good notes you can. You can add them to your

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your notebook if you're keeping track of everything you're listening to.

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But I wanted to return to this. What I really

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needed to do is just continue to look at those attributes,

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but this one, because I have talked about forever, the

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never ending fighting, debating, arguing, disagreeing within Christendom should drive

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all of them a little bit nuts. Right. We all

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claim to have the same authority the Bible, right, but

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we can't agree on what it actually says. And so

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then is it the Bible the final authority or is

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it actually you and I the final authority? Is it

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your interpretation of the Bible that's the final authority? And

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then you judge everyone based off your interpretation. Well, someone

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else will say that their view comes from the Bible,

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and then they will say that you're wrong, and you'll

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say they're wrong. Both of you will claim the Bibles

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the authority. Well, no, that means the individuals the authority. Right. See,

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there's lots of problems here. I don't know how they're

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going to handle this. But and again, when I do review,

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I don't listen to them first, Right, I don't listen

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to them first because I like to react in real

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time when it doesn't come across rehearsed like a production,

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comes across like I'm just a sinner with a microphone

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listening to sermons, trying to figure things out and invite

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you to be a part of it. So here we go.

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I'm so thankful for the message that the Lord blessed

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Brother Dan to deliver this morning. And as I mentioned,

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and I know the topic assignments, the theme, the layout

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for this meeting is something that I feel like the

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Lord directed me in. But the way my mind works

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is not the way a lot of people's do. It'd

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be a terrible thing for you to be inside my mind,

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believe me. But I'm so thankful the Lord is bringing

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the meeting together, the messages together, to work together. We

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now move on to the second theme of this weekend,

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which is one Faith, and we have Brother Nathan guests

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to speak to us.

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As I have thought about what I.

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Believe is being presented in Ephesians chapter four. Again, it

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focuses on first and foremost the knowledge we have of God,

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the knowledge of Jesus Christ, because that is the foundation

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for everything else. But one Lord first, one faith, one baptism.

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I believe he's talking about how we understand and comprehend

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who God is and the effect that then has upon

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us what we believe and what we embrace and what

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we depend upon. And then that follows that we will

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be drawn together in a congregation and an assembly for

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that mutual support, encouragement and building up. And that's what

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it brings out. I want to just introduce this segment

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of the meeting by reading to you from the Book

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of Colossians, which is very much a parallel to Ephesians.

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If you've studied either of these books, you'll see that

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they're very related the way the Holy Spirit delivers the message.

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But in Colossians chapter one, beginning in verse twenty one,

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we read, and you that were sometimes alienated and enemies

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in your mind by wicked works. Yet now hath He

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reconciled in the body of his flesh through death, to

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present you holy and under blameable and unreprovable in his sight.

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If ye continue in the faith, grounded and settled, and

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be not moved away from the hope of the gospel

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which ye have heard, and which was preached to every

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creature which is under heaven.

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Whereof I Paul am made.

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A minister, who now rejoice in my sufferings for you,

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and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions

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of Christ and my flesh for His body's sake, which

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is the Church. Whereof I am made a minister according

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to the dispensation of God which is given to me

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for you to fulfill the word of God. Even the

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mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations,

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but now is made manifest to his saints, to whom

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God would make known.

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What is the.

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Riches of the glory of this mystery among the gentiles,

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which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. Christ

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in you, the hope of glory whom we preach, warning

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every man and teaching every man in all wisdom, that

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we may present every man perited in Christ Jesus. Wherein

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two I also labor, striving according to His working, which

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worketh in me mightily. The apostle here is saying his ministry,

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his labor, His work is God working in him for you,

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for his people, for the Church. And it's an ongoing

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work of the Holy Spirit, He which has begun a

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good work in you, Paul says in the Philippian Letter,

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will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ. So

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we've considered who God is and what he reveals about himself.

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It's an interesting I guess we could try to dissect

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that cross reference and how does it fit here Again,

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it's so weird. They want to go. They're going somewhere else,

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and to me Ephesians four, you don't go somewhere else.

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That's the theological exhortation. Four starts the practical or you

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can say one two and three is the theological explanation. If

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we want to use that term. Four five and six

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is the practical exhortation if you want to do it

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that way. So then and the immediately four five and

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six flows from Paul say, hey, guys, walk Worthy, endeavor

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to keep the unity. Now what's required. He gives you

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the attributes. Then there is one body, one spirit. So

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is what he's saying, is this practical endeavoring to keep

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the unity. That's the practical exhortation that flows from the

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thiological reality about how many bodies one, how many spirits one,

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how many lords won, how many faiths one, how many

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baptisms won? Those are the theological truths. But you we

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are going to have to have these attributes, and we're

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going to have to endeavor to keep the unity because

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practical unity is very different than the philological reality. To me,

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that's the that's the million dollar like how do we

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connect it? Going over to Colautionans, I just I'm not.

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I don't see that this is the interesting part. I'm

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I'm like, well, no, no, right here, let's just stay

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right here. But maybe maybe maybe this will happen. I

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don't know. I don't know where they're going to go.

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If we have a right understanding and view of God

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is cause us to see who we are relative to

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who God is. You see in our flesh. We want

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to say, I'm not bad, I'm okay. We want to

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build ourselves up and diminish our flaws and accentuate the positives,

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and we find ourselves being okay. But when we look

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and see who God is, we're forced to realize our

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own lack of value, of worth, of quality, of righteousness.

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when we consider the holiness and righteousness of the character

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in person of our God. And it's right.

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to reference the first couple of chapters of Calvin's Institutes.

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see ourselves as we truly are. Okay, that's profound, that's important,

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that's very Isaiah six. I don't understand the Ephesians four.

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I don't understand like that. I'm not disagreeing with it,

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I'm not understanding its correlation to Ephesians four, four, five,

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and six. Unless you say, well, when we see that

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there's one God, then we'll see ourselves as we truly are.

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The text seems to be walkworthy d deavoring to keep the unity?

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How do you do it? Here are the practical attributes

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and characteristics you must have, lowliness, meekness, long suffering, for

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bearing one another love. Then four five and six seems

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to be this is the reason you're going to end.

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Maybe maybe maybe the Maybe this is how you should

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understand it. All right, hey, walk worthy and endeavor to

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keep the unity? What is required to walk worthy and

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to keep the unity? These are the attributes, right, and

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here are here is the theology. Here is the practical

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attributes you must have and to keep the unity. And

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here's the philological understanding you must have to keep the unity.

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Maybe that's a better way of understanding this section, right.

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That we should do that so that forces us to

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realize that without God we have no hope in the world,

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which then causes us to rejoice in the Gospel, which

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declares that there is hope in Christ.

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It is Christ in us.

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The hope of glory, because there is no glory, there's

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no hope of glory apart from who He is.

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And then we want to learn of him.

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So Brother Nathan, in just a moment is gonna come

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and speak to us about that problem of sin that

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we have, who we are relative to God, and how

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the knowledge of God reveals to us our desperate condition

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and primes us for the message of the Gospel, which

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builds us up, which builds us up together, and it

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changes our relationship one with another as well, because when

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we see who God is, and we see God's love

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for these others, these other individuals whom.

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He dwells in.

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As brother Dan has just spoken to us, how can

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we hate our brother if we know that Jesus Christ

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loved them and died for them. And that's how we

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as a body, we as a church, are knitted together,

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even though we're different. We're from different places, have different ideas,

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have differ different flaws, problem sins.

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Why because Christ loved us.

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So I I don't think this is going to go

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the direction I thought when I saw the title one

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Faith or let me go read the title correctly, one

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faith the problem I thought this was going to acknowledge. Hey,

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ladies and gentlemen, we are to walk worthy and we

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have to keep the unity One of the problems with

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keeping the unity is even though we say there's one faith,

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clearly there's not one faith. There are thousands of denominations.

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Nobody agrees on everything. Here is the problem, here's why

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it happens. That's the direction I was going to go.

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It sounds like the way they're going to go is

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the problem is we're sinners and we just need to

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be saved in Christ. Okay, well, I agree that that's

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a problem, but is I don't. That's been the hard

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I still don't understand how does this fit with Ephesians one,

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two and three and four versus one two and three.

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All I can do is wait and see how he

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handles it.

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Pray the Lord will continue to frame and form our minds,

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our hearts, and enable us to worship. I'm so thankful

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for the singing. It's been a great blessing just to

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sing together and unite in songs of praise. I want

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to ask Brother Ben Cordys, would you lead us in prayer?

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And then we'll have Brother John lead one more song

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and ask Nathan to come before us.

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The gracious, loving, and heavenly followed you.

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Okay, what we're gonna try to do here is skip

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forward a little bit. Try to skip forward a little bit.

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I didn't know that we're gonna have singing here in

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the middle. I'm gonna have to play and do a

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little skipping, So be patient. Here we go. This is

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one of the negative things of not listening in advance,

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but it also makes it much more are real, So

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here we go.

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Well, I want to start off by just off by

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just thanking Tyler Primitive Baptist Church, just for your wonderful hospitality.

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And I know, uh, it is truly a labor, but

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it's a labor of love, and I hope you know

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that it is appreciated and most importantly, God.

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I'm laughing. Well, first of all, all that skipping was

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a little irritating. I'm laughing because he's trying to speak

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and a baby is just cry. I mean, I've been

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in those I haven't been in those situations too many times,

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but it's always like what do you do, Like do

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you just talk louder? Do you just talk louder or

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do you just kind of like just you just wait.

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But then you don't want to put the parent on

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the spot. You don't want to put the child on

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the spot. You don't want to do that, but how

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do you like? And nobody can hear you? I mean

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because everyone and when you're when you're when some child

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is screaming, yelling, crying or or throwing a fit or

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whatever you're talking, nobody's paying attention. Everyone's eyes are on

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the child, Like you're looking at everyone, they're all looking

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over at the parent, at the kid. They're looking at that,

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and nobody is listening to you. Nobody, nobody's looking at you.

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Nobody's listening to you. You could be you could you

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00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:59.839
could say, hey, hey, hey, I just received information from

464
00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:02.960
God that Jesus is coming in five seconds. Nobody would

465
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even everybody be looking at the child. Nobody would even

466
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:08.599
be paying attention. So what do you do as a preacher?

467
00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:10.920
What do you do? Do you just do you talk

468
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and then just keep repeating yourself and repeating yourself and

469
00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:17.640
repeating yourself until like you just stay in a continual

470
00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:21.440
loop until the child, like that child is screaming, it's

471
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full head off. So what do you do? I don't know.

472
00:28:24.119 --> 00:28:26.039
I wish someone. They don't. They don't teach you what

473
00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:29.480
to do in Bible college and seminary about that.

474
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God recognizes it. If you've been coming to Salt and

475
00:28:35.559 --> 00:28:38.759
Light for any amount of time, you know that there

476
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:43.319
is one man who is missing. And I just I

477
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:45.480
cannot help but think when I think Salt and Light,

478
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:49.880
I think of brother Jai Viel working so diligently.

479
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:54.119
Actually what he's doing is relatively smart. He just kind

480
00:28:54.119 --> 00:28:56.960
of staying with all of his introductory thank you and

481
00:28:57.079 --> 00:29:00.599
that just because if anyone misses that, great you almost

482
00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:04.799
need to find something to continue to discuss until the

483
00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:08.680
child's situation has made call that I feel bad for

484
00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:10.119
the guy. I feel bad for the guy.

485
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:13.680
And so joyfully in the kitchen, and I know he

486
00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:16.839
is now with the Lord. But I would just be

487
00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:19.599
remiss if I did not just mention brother Jai's name.

488
00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:24.480
And I'm just so thankful for his work, his joyful

489
00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:27.559
service to Tyler Church and particularly to sult and Light

490
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:31.759
throughout the years. If you will turn in the scriptures,

491
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I want to look at Ephesians chapter four, verses seventeen

492
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through nineteen, but will also be in Genesis chapter three.

493
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For the Joseph stated that my assignment is to talk

494
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about the problem, what it means to be outside of

495
00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:51.240
the faith, what it means to be really outside of Christ.

496
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:57.920
And this, okay, this has taken a whole different Okay,

497
00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:01.480
so the conference is Ephesians four four through six, but

498
00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:04.000
this message is going to be an Ephesians four seventeen.

499
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And so the problem that he's describing is being outside

500
00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:12.039
of the faith. So he understands one faith much more

501
00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:18.279
from a philological perspective, a positional perspective. But he's not

502
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:22.200
appearing that he's going to describe the problem as being well,

503
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:27.000
if there's one faith, why does no one agree? See?

504
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That would be the problem. To me, the problem is that, well,

505
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:34.400
there are those outside of the faith positionally. The problem

506
00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:37.000
is all of those who are supposedly a part of

507
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the faith. But we're a part of the faith positionally,

508
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:44.000
Now how does that play out practically? Some may state

509
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:46.920
that Again, for me, the issue is that the problem

510
00:30:46.920 --> 00:30:49.480
of those who are outside of the faith positionally, those

511
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:52.799
are not saved. They need to be saved. But once

512
00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:58.400
once people become saved, now we're part of the faith positionally.

513
00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:04.079
But now how does that positional one faith play out practically?

514
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:08.519
In the midst of thousands of denominations, nobody agrees on

515
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:14.400
any thing. Church splits fighting, arguing denominational splits. Nobody can

516
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:19.000
agree on basics. Nobody can agree on the basics, So

517
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:22.200
then what do we do. That's what I hope they

518
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:30.640
were going to get to. Clearly, that's oh that's not okay.

519
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:31.880
All right, let's see where they're gonna go.

520
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:35.720
This is what you and I are by nature.

521
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:44.119
You know, if I were to maybe to introduce one

522
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of my friends that's here, maybe my good friend back there,

523
00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:50.480
Kyle Watford, and you were to ask me, will tell

524
00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:55.799
me about Kyle? And I were to say, Kyle is vain,

525
00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:02.640
he's empty, he's worthless, he's ignorant, he's blind, he's greedy.

526
00:32:03.759 --> 00:32:07.759
You think, whoa Nathan. That's pretty harsh, But you know what,

527
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:11.680
by nature that would actually be true. That's exactly who

528
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:15.039
Kyle is. That's exactly who I am. That's exactly who

529
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:20.039
every one of you are by nature, outside of the faith.

530
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:25.480
And so you know, at your job or maybe with

531
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:29.640
your parents, you may come to a boss or whoever

532
00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:33.279
you're going, whoever the authority is, and you may come

533
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:37.279
to them with a problem. And they said, don't always

534
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:38.640
come to me with a problem, come to me with

535
00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:41.799
a solution. I want to have solutions. So I will

536
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:44.880
have this God's word will have the solution. But before

537
00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:47.240
there's a solution, there is a problem, Before there is

538
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:50.480
good news. That presupposes there is bad news, and there

539
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:53.119
indeed is very very bad news before we get to

540
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:55.880
the very very good news.

541
00:32:56.200 --> 00:33:00.000
So let's read who am I? Who am I? By nature?

542
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:02.279
Sure? This is what Paul would tell us in.

543
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:04.519
Yeah.

544
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:09.680
See this is going a completely different direction. That's been

545
00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:11.640
the whole thing with the twenty twenty four Salting like

546
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:15.480
conference is just my I just like I'm sitting here

547
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:17.599
going wait a minute, wait a minute, wit no no, no, no, no,

548
00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:19.519
no no no. If we're going to talk about one body,

549
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:23.000
one spirit, one hope of your calling, one Lord, one faith,

550
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:25.559
one baptism, one God, one Father of all, how does

551
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:27.920
this fit with Ephesians four, one, two and three? And

552
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:30.000
how does this fit with Ephesians one, two and three,

553
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:33.119
Because therefore clearly tells you everything coming after is a

554
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:35.759
transition from what came before. Well, what came before? We

555
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:39.759
know theological explanation, and then here is the practical exhortation.

556
00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:41.279
If we want to do it that way, all right?

557
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:48.440
Got it? Now? Go and and I well, I well

558
00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:50.559
we're going to listen to this, but it's really not

559
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:53.400
going the direction I wanted it to go. I so

560
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:56.319
wanted you to tell me why we have one faith,

561
00:33:56.400 --> 00:33:59.680
but there's no agreement on that faith. That's what I

562
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:03.319
wanted to deal with, right, So how can we have

563
00:34:03.599 --> 00:34:06.480
this one faith? Well, then we can again I've already

564
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:11.079
articulated one, two, and three kind of how we understand this, four, five,

565
00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:15.920
and six is the philological reality, but the practical reality

566
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:18.199
is we have to endeavor. How do we endeavor? Well,

567
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:20.840
we got to remember the philological and we have to maintain,

568
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:24.400
so we have to seek these attributes and characteristics. But

569
00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:29.079
let's let's see how he now. Okay, well, let's just

570
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:30.440
see where he goes. There's a lot of things I

571
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:32.480
could already say about what he said, but it's taking

572
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:38.519
me further further away from Ephesians four. So it's I mean,

573
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if you jump all the way over to like seventeen,

574
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:45.800
is he going to connect seventeen to two, four, five,

575
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:49.760
and six? I can't. I think maybe I have a

576
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:51.480
way of working this. Let's see.

577
00:34:52.800 --> 00:35:00.960
And Ephesians chapter four versus seventeen through nineteen. He would say, Hey, this,

578
00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:04.480
I say therefore and testify in the Lord that ye

579
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:07.000
hence forth walk. What does it mean to walk? Thiss

580
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:11.760
just your manner of life? Don't live, don't act like that?

581
00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:16.000
Ye hens forth walk, not as other gentiles walk. When

582
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:21.000
you think gentile, think unbeliever, think pagan, think outside of

583
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the faith.

584
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:28.559
Now the issue is this, I say, therefore, now we

585
00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:32.760
have another therefore, Now this therefore has to be connected

586
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:36.079
to what came before? How far back do we take

587
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:39.199
that therefore too? Now I'm assuming he's going to address

588
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:43.519
this right the therefore in chapter four one takes us

589
00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:47.599
back to one, two and three that goes or you

590
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:48.960
could say, where does that stop?

591
00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:49.679
Right?

592
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:54.000
Where does that where? Therefore, and now we get to it. Therefore,

593
00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:57.280
now that therefore and seventeen does it go, Well, we'll

594
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:00.840
look at verse fourteen that we hence forth. It's not

595
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:05.159
a therefore, But we got a structural issue. We we

596
00:36:05.320 --> 00:36:08.599
have to put these things together, structure and and A

597
00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:11.519
and the way they are structured, the way it's being formatted,

598
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:13.800
the way it's being put together. That there has to be.

599
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:16.679
So I'm assuming he's got he's got to address the therefore,

600
00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:19.280
he's got to So I'm just going to go with

601
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:20.599
the idea that he will.

602
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:24.599
Not as other gentiles walk.

603
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:28.199
So who am I by nature? Y'all thought? I was

604
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:34.199
harsh with Kyle and the vanity of their mind, having

605
00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:39.920
the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God

606
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:43.480
through the ignorance that is in them because of the

607
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:49.280
blindness of their heart, Who, being past feeling, have given

608
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:53.719
themselves over into lasciviousness. That's a that's a hard word

609
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:58.960
to get out. It means unbridled lust. Who, who, being

610
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:03.280
past feeling, have given themselves over unto lasciviousness to work

611
00:37:03.480 --> 00:37:09.920
all uncleanness with greediness. There is a problem, is there not?

612
00:37:11.320 --> 00:37:14.239
This is who we are by nature? What does it

613
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:16.679
mean to be vain? To have the vanity of mind?

614
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:20.800
If y'all remember Brother Dan's message from last year when

615
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:23.760
we talked about what buying the truth and selling not?

616
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:27.000
He did such a powerful job. I thought on what

617
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:34.320
it means to be vain? Vanity means nothingness, emptiness, futile, worthlessness,

618
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:46.159
the vanity of the mind. Who am I? I'm alienated?

619
00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:53.079
I'm sorry, my understanding is darkened. I'm alienated from the

620
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:56.679
life of God through the ignorance that is in them.

621
00:37:56.719 --> 00:38:02.079
That's who I am by nature. First Corinthians. Well you

622
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:06.639
should know this this scripture one Corinthians two fourteen. But

623
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:10.360
the natural man receiveth not the things of the spirit

624
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:14.119
of God, for they are foolishness unto him. Neither can

625
00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:18.239
he know them, because they're spiritually discerned brothers, sisters outside

626
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:18.840
of Christ.

627
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:20.920
Outside of Christ.

628
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:27.199
What is wise is foolish, and what is foolish is wise?

629
00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:31.320
Does that make sense? What is the What does the

630
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:34.920
unbeliever do? In Isaiah, they call good evil and evil

631
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:36.880
good by nature.

632
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:39.480
That is where we are. That's where I am. That's

633
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:40.800
where you are.

634
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:48.159
I wonder, Thank God. I'm gonna I'm gonna look here,

635
00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:54.960
Thank God they call they call evil good.

636
00:38:56.119 --> 00:39:01.639
Right, that's Isaiah five twenty Isaiah. I'm just gonna look

637
00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:04.960
at something here, because he says the unbeliever. Okay, hang on,

638
00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:14.679
Isaiah and Isaiah. If I can spell, right, Isaiah five twenty,

639
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:21.639
who is guilty of calling evil good?

640
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:22.519
All right?

641
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:24.360
Hang on, I'm gonna do it. I'm doing a search here,

642
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:38.840
all right. Okay.

643
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:43.079
See it doesn't specifically name individuals or groups, but addresses

644
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:46.239
the people of Israel. During the prophet Isaiah's time. Okay,

645
00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:50.239
that's what I thought. So when you say unbelievers, remember Isaiah.

646
00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:52.840
So let me let me name this quickly, Isaiah five twenty.

647
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:56.800
I think that's the passage she's referencing, Isaiah five twenty.

648
00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:03.000
I'm gonna go to Isaiah five because I immediately was like,

649
00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:06.000
wait a minute here, Isaiah five twenty, woe to them

650
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:09.440
that call evil good and good evil that put darkness. Now,

651
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:15.079
remember if you go back to Isaiah one, the vision,

652
00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:18.920
the vision of Isaiah, the son of Amos, which he

653
00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:24.920
saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem. So clearly this is dealing

654
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:29.440
primarily with Judah and Jerusalem. This is so as this

655
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:34.000
source says Isaiah five twenty doesn't specifically name individuals or groups,

656
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:39.400
but addresses the people of Israel during the prophet Isaiah's time.

657
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:43.800
So so many times when we go to the Old

658
00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:48.079
Testament say well, these were unbelievers, sometimes those were the

659
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:51.960
people of God. They were a part of God's chosen nation.

660
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:57.400
So I guess the issue is is it ever possible?

661
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:01.840
Because he's trying to make it sound like only unbelievers

662
00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:04.960
ever do this, only unbelievers ever do this. So I'm

663
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:07.440
gonna go back to Isaiah FIV. Hang, So here here

664
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:11.280
would be a philological question. I know how most Christians

665
00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:14.440
will answer this, but I'm gonna put I'm gonna put

666
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:18.360
forth the question anyway, Woe to them that call evil

667
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:21.039
good and good evil, that put darkness for light and

668
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:24.920
light for darkness, they put bitter for sweet and sweet

669
00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:29.840
for bitter. Can Christians ever be guilty of doing these things?

670
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:34.519
And I will say yes, they can. Christians can be

671
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:37.960
very guilt, guilt, very guilty. And the way we think

672
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:41.000
and the way we act, we know that Christian sin

673
00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:46.039
all the time. Are thinking, it's obviously greatly confused. There's

674
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:48.760
all kind I mean, look, you just think about it

675
00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:51.840
from this. From this perspective, you have those who are

676
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:54.840
not reformed, who are not reformed in their theology. They

677
00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:59.159
will say reform theology and Calvinism is evil, it is wrong,

678
00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:03.320
it is horrible, it is heresy, it is ungodly, and

679
00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:05.880
some may go so far as hey, it's an damnable heresy.

680
00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:08.840
Those who are calvinistic or reform will look at those

681
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:13.079
with their non reform theology. There are Minianism or their

682
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:18.199
you know, Pelagianism. However you want to classify there that's heresy,

683
00:42:18.400 --> 00:42:20.480
that is evil. Well, one will see it's good, the

684
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:22.039
other one will say it was evil. The other one

685
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:25.159
who's being said it's evil will call the other one evil.

686
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:28.280
Back and forth. Hey, no, I'm what I have is good,

687
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:30.159
what you have is evil? Know what I have is good,

688
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:33.760
what you have is evil. No, that's not exactly verb.

689
00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:36.639
You know, a perfect correlation. But what I'm saying is

690
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:39.480
Christians can say something is good and something is evil,

691
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:42.800
and even Christians won't agree on if it's evil or good.

692
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:47.639
Now that's more from a thiological perspective, but you get

693
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:51.599
the idea. Christians can have wrong thinking. Christians can have

694
00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:55.599
wrong behavior if you don't think. I know, we Christians

695
00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:58.559
love to paint this like infocommercial. Hey, this is what

696
00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:00.920
I was and when it became a Now I think right,

697
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:04.559
I do right, I act right. I'm basically perfect. But

698
00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:07.239
we know two thousand years of church history we're not

699
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:12.880
basically perfect. Look look at do you believe Luther? Martin?

700
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:17.559
Luther the one you're very much responsible from a human perspective.

701
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:19.480
I know there were already things going on before Luthor,

702
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:22.400
but Luther was really the one who kicked off what

703
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:25.960
we would refer to as the Protestant Reformation. Now may

704
00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:28.199
some may refer to him as evil, some may say

705
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:30.239
he was great. But I guarantee you, whether you call

706
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:32.639
him evil or great, well we know that he was

707
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:34.920
a sinful man. Did you ever read some of his

708
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:42.280
writings about the Jews? Now, how could he say such

709
00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:46.599
horrible things? Because even as believers, even as those of

710
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:48.679
us who believe in God, even those of us who

711
00:43:48.679 --> 00:43:51.400
believe we're saved by faith alone, because of Christ alone,

712
00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:54.280
even grace alone, faith alone, Christ alone, even if we

713
00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:57.239
have all of that, right, we can say and do

714
00:43:57.719 --> 00:44:00.960
and believe really messed up things. Look at the churches

715
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:05.159
in the Book of Revelation, right, the message is to

716
00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:08.159
those churches. Those churches are believing and doing things that

717
00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:11.800
are all messed up the entire News Testament. Look at

718
00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:15.079
the church at Corinth. Now, I know, I know the typical, Well,

719
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:17.079
those are lost people. Those are lost people. We like

720
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:19.000
to throw anyone out of the Kingdom of God. I

721
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:21.000
don't know if you can just say lost people think

722
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:24.320
that way, We're all we all can think that way.

723
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:27.440
So I I you know, I know he wants to

724
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:32.320
draw a hard delineation. These are lost people. But we're

725
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:36.239
not like that anymore. Again, we are not like that.

726
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:39.639
Let me state it again. We are not like we

727
00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:44.599
were positionally when I put my faith in Christ. Positionally,

728
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:47.239
I'm a new creature. Old things have passed away, all

729
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:52.480
things have become new. Positionally, practically, I'm not a new creature.

730
00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:54.599
Old things are not passed away, and not all things

731
00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:57.119
have become new. Because for that to be true, practically,

732
00:44:57.239 --> 00:44:59.320
I would no longer have a sinful nature, and I

733
00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:01.639
wouldn't need to be changed. I wouldn't have to need

734
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:04.440
to do anything because the old is already completely gone

735
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:07.320
and everything is new. So I basically have already been glorified.

736
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:09.320
But we know that's not the case. The sinful nature

737
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:11.679
is still there. You sin, I sind. We all sin.

738
00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:18.039
So therefore, positionally, yes, we do everything right because we

739
00:45:18.079 --> 00:45:20.119
are an Again, we say, by an imputed righteousness, not

740
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:23.440
an infused righteousness. Imputed righteousness, I'm declared to be that

741
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:28.199
which I'm not. Practically, I'm declared to be perfect when

742
00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:31.119
practically I'm not. I'm declared to be righteous when practically

743
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:36.840
I'm not. So to throw out Isaiah five like, well,

744
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:38.519
wait a minute, is that is that referring to the

745
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:41.239
pagan nations, or is that referring to God's nation Israel.

746
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:44.760
Why is it over and over and over that Israel

747
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:48.760
would call evil good and good evil and do and

748
00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:53.960
be constantly just be messing up. Because God's people constantly

749
00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:59.559
mess up. That's why we are saved by an imputed righteousness.

750
00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:03.960
That's the way God has chosen to save us, which

751
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:07.360
is confounding and confusing, because instead of saving me with

752
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:09.800
an imputed righteousness, there's a part of us that would say,

753
00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:13.440
don't save me by an imputed righteousness. Infuse perfect righteousness

754
00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:16.039
in me, remove my sinful nature, and then I can

755
00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:18.599
basically be perfect. But no, God save me by an

756
00:46:18.599 --> 00:46:23.559
imputed righteousness, leaving my sinful nature clearly intact. And we

757
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:26.000
continue to sin and sin and sin. So therefore we

758
00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:31.039
do not become trophies necessary necessarily of how great we are.

759
00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:36.239
In practice. We become trophies of God's grace, saving sinners

760
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:44.320
by imputing righteousness to them.

761
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:49.559
By nature. Outside of the faith, I'm alienated from the

762
00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:52.760
life of God. That means, yeah, I'm estranged from the

763
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:57.079
life of God. I'm separated from godliness. It's foreign to me.

764
00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:02.119
I'm blind, and my heart is blind. The word blind

765
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:04.480
actually means it means callous. You know how if you

766
00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:08.079
if you learn to play guitar, you want to build

767
00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:11.079
up those callouses. I was a whimp. My cousin gave

768
00:47:11.119 --> 00:47:13.840
me one guitar lesson, and my fingers hurt too bad.

769
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:15.880
I didn't continue. Shame on me.

770
00:47:18.119 --> 00:47:19.840
So what does it mean to be blind of heart?

771
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:25.320
It means to be calloused hardness of heart. Does this

772
00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:30.440
not remind you of Romans Chapter one? And again? I'm

773
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:35.800
not just talking about the culture the world system I am,

774
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:39.159
of course, I'm talking about you and I outside of

775
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:46.760
the faith, outside of Christ. The wrath of God is

776
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:51.679
revealed from Heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men

777
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:55.840
who hold the truth or suppress the truth and unrighteousness,

778
00:47:56.400 --> 00:47:59.360
because that which may be known of God is manifest

779
00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:02.559
in them, for God that's showed it unto them, For

780
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:05.880
the invisible things of Him from the creation of the

781
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:08.599
world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that

782
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:11.920
are made, even His eternal power in Godhead, so that

783
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:15.840
they are without excuse, because that when they knew God,

784
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:19.360
they glorified him, not as God. Neither were thankful but

785
00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:26.079
became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

786
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:30.840
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools and changed

787
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:34.320
the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made

788
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:37.400
like to corruptible man, into birds and four footed beasts

789
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:40.960
and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to

790
00:48:41.119 --> 00:48:45.840
uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts to dishonor

791
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:48.559
their own bodies between themselves, who changed the truth of

792
00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:50.920
God and to a lie and worship and serve the

793
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:55.280
creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen,

794
00:48:56.159 --> 00:49:00.559
that's you and I outside of the great of God,

795
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:08.079
outside of that precious, powerful but also personal indwelling of

796
00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:08.960
the Holy Spirit.

797
00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:15.559
Again, this is the typical I know this is now

798
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:17.599
if you can go listen to my if you go

799
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:20.559
listen to my teaching on Romans one twenty four to

800
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:24.320
look up my message. Therefore part one we covered this Sunday,

801
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:28.199
and I know my theory, my hypothesis goes against everyone else.

802
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:29.440
But see either the way he says, Hey, this is

803
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:31.400
the way we used to be, but we're not like

804
00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:37.840
that anymore, because God's grace has transformed us and changed us. Yes, positionally,

805
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:42.840
practically we are very much just like this. We still

806
00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:45.960
have lust. We still change the truth of God into

807
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:49.360
a lie. We still worship and serve the creature more

808
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:51.960
than the Creator. We do that is true of all

809
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:55.239
of us. We still are idolatrous. We are still love

810
00:49:55.400 --> 00:49:58.400
pleasure more than we love God. Those things are true

811
00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:01.280
of us. Look at everything that happens in the church

812
00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:06.039
and in Christian lives. We constantly are struggling against these things.

813
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:10.360
What changes is this? Now we understand there is a

814
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:14.280
God and these ways are wrong. We acknowledge that they

815
00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:17.800
are sinful. We fight against it, but that sinful nature

816
00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:22.760
is still very much present in us. We still do

817
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:27.920
these same things. We still struggle, We still sin Within churches.

818
00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:33.719
There's still there's pornography, there's adultery, there's fornication, there's greediness,

819
00:50:33.960 --> 00:50:38.840
there's backbinding, there's unforgiveness, there's gossip, there's slander, you just

820
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:42.079
name it. It's still present in the church, maybe not

821
00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:45.360
as external, but it's still there. And a lot of

822
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:48.360
times it's not as external. Because the average age of

823
00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:51.599
a church member in twenty twenty four, the last statistics

824
00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:54.760
I look like, is about sixty years of age. That's

825
00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:58.400
the average age of a church member in twenty twenty

826
00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:01.360
four is between fifty and sixty. Okay, well, when you're

827
00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:04.119
fifty or sixty, those external things are not going to

828
00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:06.880
be as manifest because while you're probably going to bed

829
00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:09.880
at nine o'clock at night, and you're married, and well,

830
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:12.760
so many things are different. Well look at what's going

831
00:51:12.840 --> 00:51:18.119
on and young people who clearly believe in God. Well,

832
00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:21.639
it may be more manifested externally, but sin is still there.

833
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:24.559
Just you can just read, you can go to certain

834
00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:26.760
websites that keep track of all the things going on

835
00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:29.440
in churches, and you'll be like, oh, my goodness, what happened,

836
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:31.800
what happened? Look what this has happened. This has happened.

837
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:33.639
Now the answer to many's like, well, they're not saved,

838
00:51:33.639 --> 00:51:35.360
they're not saved, they're not saved. They're not saved. They're

839
00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:37.559
not saved. They're not saved, they're not saved, they're not safe. Well,

840
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:39.679
you keep throwing everyone out of the Kingdom of God.

841
00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:41.639
One day you're gonna lay in bed at night you're

842
00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:44.360
going to realize how sinful you are. Maybe not externally,

843
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:54.760
but internally, we're still sinners. But the idea is no, no,

844
00:51:54.800 --> 00:51:58.760
you just boom just you're it's all different. But then

845
00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:00.760
but then at the same time, we'll say it's all different.

846
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:03.199
But bu bah bah, but you still can't be perfect.

847
00:52:03.199 --> 00:52:05.239
Well wait a minute, So I'm changed, but I can't

848
00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:08.119
get to perfection. You'll tell me that I'm a new creature.

849
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:09.719
Old things have passed away, all things have become new.

850
00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:12.079
At the same time, you'll tell me I'm still fighting

851
00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:14.199
against sin. Well, why am I fighting against anything if

852
00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:15.519
I'm a new creature and the old things are gone

853
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:18.440
and everything is new? Like it's a lot of doubles

854
00:52:18.440 --> 00:52:22.039
speak within Christianity. But let let's see where he's gonna

855
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:22.320
go here.

856
00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:30.159
I'm convinced. I am convinced. I'm talking about me, but

857
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:32.719
I'm also talking about you as well. I'm convinced we

858
00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:38.760
do not take sin seriously enough because maybe.

859
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:40.639
I am not.

860
00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:43.000
I'm not having sex outside of marriage, and and I

861
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:46.159
don't I don't believe all this this, this wickedness about

862
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:50.000
abortion and transgenderism and all this. So so I'm okay,

863
00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:51.320
I'm okay.

864
00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:56.760
Now, Remember he already just talked about how we are changed,

865
00:52:57.480 --> 00:52:59.840
but now he's saying we don't take sin serious enough.

866
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:03.360
Now he's going to acknowledge the sin that's in us.

867
00:53:04.280 --> 00:53:07.960
And trust me, there's plenty of Christians who have sex

868
00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:10.679
outside of marriage. Now when the average church member, when

869
00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:12.480
the average church member in twenty twenty four is a

870
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:15.360
between fifty and sixty years old, you may not have

871
00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:20.079
a rampant fornication happening, right, but you have a rampant

872
00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:24.000
fornication happening when you have Christian young people far more

873
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:26.800
prevalent than anybody wants, more so than the parents want

874
00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:29.840
to acknowledge, more so than anyone want to acknowledge. It's

875
00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:32.960
probably more pre or they are at least engaging activetivities

876
00:53:33.079 --> 00:53:35.519
that you would have to define as sin because while

877
00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:38.599
they got hormones rushing through their body. I'm not excusing

878
00:53:38.679 --> 00:53:42.400
anything I'm saying. When you're in one situation, it's very

879
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:45.599
easy to say, well, see I stopped that sin because

880
00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:50.440
now you're married, you have a way to take care

881
00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:56.760
of those desires and needs. But then you look at

882
00:53:56.800 --> 00:54:01.719
some statistics about how rampant pornography is inside church again

883
00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:04.079
so that how godly are we really? But see that

884
00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:08.800
can be more hidden, that can be nobody knows. You

885
00:54:08.840 --> 00:54:10.760
don't know how many people in your church are looking

886
00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:12.480
at porn. You have no way of knowing, because first

887
00:54:12.519 --> 00:54:13.960
of all, no one's going to usually come to the

888
00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:16.119
prayer meeting and say I need prayer because I'm looking

889
00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:18.880
at porn. That's going to be something more secret. That's

890
00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:24.840
a secret sin. So all right, But but now he's

891
00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:27.679
going to talk about, well, wait, there's still sin in us, right,

892
00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:29.119
It sounds like that's where he's going.

893
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:33.320
No, no, no, what would Isaiah say?

894
00:54:33.320 --> 00:54:38.159
I believe it's Isaiah, your very best, your righteousness for

895
00:54:38.239 --> 00:54:43.519
the David is what it's a dirty, filthy rag? Because

896
00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:46.519
what's the standard? What is sin? What does it mean

897
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:48.920
to sin? Sin is to miss the mark? What is

898
00:54:48.920 --> 00:54:52.679
the mark? The mark is that holy God? Right goes Jimmy,

899
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:55.360
the holiness of God.

900
00:54:56.960 --> 00:55:01.119
Now, amen, I completely agree, even even when we think

901
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:04.719
we've so transformed and changed, we're still but filthy rags

902
00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:07.599
before a holy God, because the standard is perfection. And

903
00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:09.639
again I say this all the time. If you're going

904
00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:12.559
to talk about some dramatic change in us practically not

905
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:14.960
you're going to remove it from a positional change to

906
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:17.000
a practical change. I can just give you a couple

907
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:20.800
of scriptures to totally destroy your concept love God with

908
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:23.039
all your heart, mind, body, and soul. You don't do that,

909
00:55:23.079 --> 00:55:25.039
And if you even think you do, you're deceiving yourself.

910
00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:27.400
Love your neighbor as yourself. Come on, you'll love yourself

911
00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:30.239
more than you love anyone else. Be ye, perfect as

912
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:32.519
your heavenly Father is perfect. Oh wait, you're never going

913
00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:35.840
to accomplish that when oh, be holy as God is holy.

914
00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:38.320
Now remember all of these scriptures that tell us to

915
00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:42.000
do these things. Those are classified as law philologically, and

916
00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:44.519
the law is not for you to is not because

917
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:47.039
you can keep it. The laws constantly remind you that

918
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:49.440
you cannot keep it, and that you fall short, and

919
00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:51.840
to constantly show you your sin, so that you'll be

920
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:55.599
constantly humbled and broken and flee to the perfect righteousness

921
00:55:55.639 --> 00:55:59.159
of Christ, which is imputed to you by faith alone.

922
00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:02.119
And you are say, by grace alone, faith alone, because

923
00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:04.559
of Christ alone, not by works. And if you say, well,

924
00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:07.320
your works don't save you, but they prove your salvation, well,

925
00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:09.559
the only works that's going to prove my salvation are

926
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:12.800
perfect works, which is Jesus Christ. Because my works, no

927
00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:15.199
matter how good they are, are nothing but filthy rags

928
00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:17.519
and would still fall short. So my works can never

929
00:56:17.679 --> 00:56:20.559
prove my salvation. It's only the works of Christ. Whatever

930
00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:23.400
tests you give me, I say, take the test to Jesus.

931
00:56:23.559 --> 00:56:24.840
He already passed it for me.

932
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:35.880
Compared to God. When confronted with God, what did Isaiah do?

933
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Shut my mouth? I just need to shut my mouth.

934
00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:50.760
I'm an unclean, filthy man. Now. I do want to

935
00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:54.599
point this out. While we believe that the Bible teaches

936
00:56:54.880 --> 00:57:00.920
total depravity, we are depraved by nature, total inability. We

937
00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:04.280
have no ability to come to God in and of

938
00:57:04.360 --> 00:57:07.440
our own self because who we are. We are vain,

939
00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:13.239
we're filthy, we're greedy, we're sinners. Now praise God in

940
00:57:13.360 --> 00:57:19.920
his grace. The total depravity doesn't always manifest itself as

941
00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:21.719
much as it could. If that were the case, we

942
00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:24.760
would all have killed each other off a long time ago.

943
00:57:25.239 --> 00:57:26.440
There wouldn't be in existence.

944
00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:26.639
Now.

945
00:57:26.679 --> 00:57:29.360
I do think that total depravity is starting to manifest

946
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:33.679
itself more and more and more. But thank God for that,

947
00:57:33.800 --> 00:57:36.280
because I'm not as bad as I could be. I

948
00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:39.480
guess if you would allow me to say it that way.

949
00:57:40.039 --> 00:57:44.679
But this is a dire situation, and it started all

950
00:57:44.760 --> 00:57:48.239
the way back. Brother Dan touched on this. It started

951
00:57:48.320 --> 00:57:55.519
all the way back to the garden seven different times

952
00:57:55.840 --> 00:57:57.840
in Genesis chapter one. You can go ahead and turn

953
00:57:57.880 --> 00:58:05.320
to Genesis three seven different times, and Genesis one it

954
00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:06.159
talks about God.

955
00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:11.760
This is just once again, this conference has just I'm

956
00:58:11.840 --> 00:58:16.880
so I'm still struggling with following it right because it's

957
00:58:16.920 --> 00:58:24.239
about Ephesians four, four, five, and six. One faith. That's

958
00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:29.480
literally the name of this sermon. One faith. The problem

959
00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:32.760
so one faith doesn't really and what he's saying is

960
00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:38.320
there's one faith. But I guess the problem is verses

961
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:42.840
seventeen and eighteen. I'm not understanding how you're connecting seventeen

962
00:58:42.880 --> 00:58:51.719
and eighteen to Ephesians four five hermeneutically, textually, context contextually, syntax.

963
00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:56.840
I don't understand at all. I'm totally baffled by this.

964
00:58:56.960 --> 00:59:00.800
And now we're going off to Genesis, we're in Romans.

965
00:59:01.239 --> 00:59:03.440
Even the introduction, we went to Colossians.

966
00:59:04.840 --> 00:59:16.440
I I don't understand.

967
00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:19.159
I'm gonna let him finish the point he was just

968
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:21.760
starting to make and we'll wrap this up. This did

969
00:59:21.760 --> 00:59:25.159
not go the direction I wanted. It did not. Again,

970
00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:28.320
I'm going to continue to challenge you. I mean I will.

971
00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:31.679
I'm gonna finish soon. I don't know if I won't

972
00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:34.840
probably be today, but soon we will look at long

973
00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:37.039
suffering for bearing one another in love, and then we're

974
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:39.519
just gonna wrap it up right, because we've done what

975
00:59:39.599 --> 00:59:42.800
we can with this in this looking at this series,

976
00:59:42.960 --> 00:59:48.039
we've we've looked at the entire structure of Ephesians Ephesians one, two, three, four, five, six,

977
00:59:48.119 --> 00:59:52.599
the entire book. We've provided some understanding of the contextual

978
00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:57.719
uh setting for Ephesians four, four, five through six. I've

979
00:59:57.719 --> 01:00:03.079
repeated that a little bit this morning. I think we've

980
01:00:03.079 --> 01:00:06.599
done about everything we can possibly. I'm literally at a lost.

981
01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:09.280
I'm just at a loss with what to do here,

982
01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:12.719
Like I don't, I don't get it. And I understand.

983
01:00:12.800 --> 01:00:15.079
This is the beautiful I guess. The beautiful thing and

984
01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:19.280
the frustrating thing about preaching is people can handle the

985
01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:21.760
text and all I mean, there's no limit in ways

986
01:00:21.800 --> 01:00:32.480
in which people can handle the text. I just yeah, yeah,

987
01:00:32.519 --> 01:00:36.360
I just don't understand. I just don't understand here.

988
01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:39.039
I just I don't.

989
01:00:39.079 --> 01:00:41.360
But let let him finish.

990
01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:44.559
Obviously, being the creator, I love it. The first calls

991
01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:48.760
of all calls without calls, he's un calls, but seven

992
01:00:48.800 --> 01:00:52.760
different times it has some form of the phrase. And

993
01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:58.960
he saw that it was good. So God created this creation.

994
01:00:59.079 --> 01:01:01.920
He created the head and the earth good and very good,

995
01:01:01.960 --> 01:01:06.400
and that includes man. We were just talking about this, brother,

996
01:01:06.440 --> 01:01:10.039
Dan and I. He created male and female in his

997
01:01:10.239 --> 01:01:14.280
own image, in the imago day, in the image of God,

998
01:01:15.199 --> 01:01:21.159
a perfect creation, a flaw without flaws. He saw that

999
01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:30.400
it was good. He gives Adam and Eve a command

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01:01:31.400 --> 01:01:36.079
in Genesis two, out of every tree of the garden,

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01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:42.639
enjoy it, enjoy it, have at it. I've given it

1002
01:01:42.679 --> 01:01:43.039
to you.

1003
01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:51.199
Let's just remember this because I know I always have

1004
01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:53.920
to be the devil's advocate when it comes to Christianity.

1005
01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:57.039
But let me offer you know what nobody ever wants

1006
01:01:57.079 --> 01:02:01.400
to talk about in Christianity. Let's remember this eternal God

1007
01:02:03.119 --> 01:02:06.320
who in the beginning created heaven and earth. This eternal

1008
01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:12.079
God knew exactly what was going to happen before he

1009
01:02:12.239 --> 01:02:16.760
created anything. He knew he was going to create Adam

1010
01:02:16.800 --> 01:02:21.519
and Eve, and he knew that they were going to sin.

1011
01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:27.239
He knew before he created Satan Lucifer. He knew that

1012
01:02:27.239 --> 01:02:30.639
that angel would fall. He knew from the before he

1013
01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:33.639
even created him, and then when Satan fell he knew

1014
01:02:33.679 --> 01:02:37.199
he could. He would have been perfectly right to destroy him.

1015
01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:43.400
Just done, be done. No, Satan gone done, removing evil

1016
01:02:43.679 --> 01:02:47.679
and sin from my entire creation. It's gone. He's gone.

1017
01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:49.920
But no, no, no, he does not. Only does he

1018
01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:53.480
not destroy him, he allows him to come directly to

1019
01:02:53.760 --> 01:02:56.320
this earth which God had created. No, he does he

1020
01:02:56.360 --> 01:02:59.519
allow him access to the earth. He allows him access

1021
01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:02.400
to oh, the garden. He could have kept him out,

1022
01:03:02.519 --> 01:03:05.760
but he did not. When Satan came in to tempt Eve,

1023
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:09.239
God could immediately have stepped in and said, back off.

1024
01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:13.239
Know Eve, don't listen to him. I'm your creator. He

1025
01:03:13.400 --> 01:03:16.039
is a liar. God does not do anything to stop it.

1026
01:03:16.280 --> 01:03:19.280
He doesn't do anything to prevent it. He doesn't do

1027
01:03:19.320 --> 01:03:22.199
it knowing exactly what's going to happen. And as soon

1028
01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:25.239
as Adam and Eve sin, he could have destroyed them,

1029
01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:27.960
destroyed Satan, and then there would be no sin in

1030
01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:31.400
his creation. He could expunged sin forever. He could have

1031
01:03:31.480 --> 01:03:34.480
created so much whatever, but he did not, meaning the

1032
01:03:34.559 --> 01:03:37.079
eternal God who knew everything that was going to happen.

1033
01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:40.760
Now you can even get into decrees, we get providence,

1034
01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:43.599
we could get into that. He does nothing to stop it,

1035
01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:51.039
knowing it's all going to happen, which then makes it

1036
01:03:51.159 --> 01:03:54.519
like why like then we got to get into somehow

1037
01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:57.840
all of this fits into God's plan in some way,

1038
01:03:57.840 --> 01:03:58.519
shape or form.

1039
01:04:03.079 --> 01:04:08.920
Cultivate this garden, enjoy this garden. Eat of the fruits

1040
01:04:09.119 --> 01:04:13.199
in this garden, except this one tree, the tree of

1041
01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:19.199
the knowledge of good and evil. Well, with that in mind,

1042
01:04:20.320 --> 01:04:29.519
let's read Genesis chapter three. Genesis chapter three, verse one.

1043
01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:35.599
This goes back all the way back thousands of years ago.

1044
01:04:36.599 --> 01:04:42.760
Now the serpent was more subtle. He was more subtle

1045
01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:46.360
than any beast of the field which the Lord God

1046
01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:51.320
had made. And he said unto the woman, yea hath

1047
01:04:51.440 --> 01:04:54.440
God said, ye shall not eat of every tree of

1048
01:04:54.480 --> 01:04:58.199
the garden. And the woman said, into the serpent, we

1049
01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:00.000
may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden.

1050
01:05:00.599 --> 01:05:02.159
But of the fruit of the tree which is in

1051
01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:04.159
the midst of the garden. God has said, ye shall

1052
01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:06.280
not eat of it, neither shall you touch it, lest

1053
01:05:06.360 --> 01:05:10.159
ye die. And the serpent said, unto the woman, ye

1054
01:05:10.159 --> 01:05:15.320
shall not surely die, For God doth know that in

1055
01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:17.760
the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be

1056
01:05:17.840 --> 01:05:21.480
open and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

1057
01:05:23.039 --> 01:05:25.639
And when the woman saw that the tree was good

1058
01:05:25.639 --> 01:05:28.239
for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes,

1059
01:05:28.280 --> 01:05:30.639
and a tree to be desired to make one wise,

1060
01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:34.599
she took of the fruit thereof and did eat, and

1061
01:05:34.679 --> 01:05:38.320
gave also unto her husband with her, and he did eat.

1062
01:05:39.400 --> 01:05:42.559
And the eyes of them were opened, and they knew

1063
01:05:42.920 --> 01:05:46.360
that they were naked. I'll stop there. You remember, I

1064
01:05:46.360 --> 01:05:48.880
believe it's the end of Genesis two says the man

1065
01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:51.639
and the woman were naked and unashamed because they didn't

1066
01:05:51.679 --> 01:05:58.039
have to be. But now they're naked, they're exposed, full

1067
01:05:58.599 --> 01:06:05.320
of shame. Well, I just want to walk through the process.

1068
01:06:05.599 --> 01:06:08.960
I guess of Genesis three, of the fall.

1069
01:06:11.239 --> 01:06:13.679
What I would always want to say is Inin't it amazing?

1070
01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:19.119
God shows up after it? God shows up after it,

1071
01:06:19.159 --> 01:06:21.519
and it says, Okay, I'm in charge. Here's your punishment.

1072
01:06:21.519 --> 01:06:24.480
Here's your punishment, your pun God. You could have shown

1073
01:06:24.559 --> 01:06:27.199
up before there was sin, You could have stopped at all.

1074
01:06:27.440 --> 01:06:31.199
Where was God? God was watching it, knowing it was

1075
01:06:31.239 --> 01:06:33.679
going to take place. Snook. He knew it before he

1076
01:06:33.719 --> 01:06:39.679
created them, it was going to take place. God created

1077
01:06:39.719 --> 01:06:42.960
the very one who brings in the temptation. He created

1078
01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:45.599
that being, knowing that being was going to bring the temptation.

1079
01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:48.199
He could have destroyed that being. He could have prevented

1080
01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:52.280
that being Satan from enterning. He could have interrupted the temptation.

1081
01:06:52.639 --> 01:06:55.239
God could have done fifty billion different things. Okay, that's

1082
01:06:55.280 --> 01:06:58.039
a little bit of hyperbole to stop this. It would

1083
01:06:58.119 --> 01:07:01.639
need fifty billion or two actions could have stopped it

1084
01:07:01.639 --> 01:07:04.039
from ever happening. But he did not. He allowed it

1085
01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:09.079
all to happen, which is crazy. Allowed it is a

1086
01:07:09.119 --> 01:07:14.320
is a nicer way, depending on your theology. He decreed it. Hey,

1087
01:07:14.360 --> 01:07:19.559
his providence guided and directed it. But again, I don't

1088
01:07:19.559 --> 01:07:21.199
know what any of this has to do with Ephesians

1089
01:07:21.199 --> 01:07:24.239
for because I don't understand.

1090
01:07:24.440 --> 01:07:25.599
I don't understand.

1091
01:07:28.320 --> 01:07:30.119
Yeah, I guess we'll just operate there because now he's

1092
01:07:30.119 --> 01:07:31.960
just gonna walk through it. He's just gonna walk through it.

1093
01:07:32.039 --> 01:07:34.760
And I doubt because to me, when when I read,

1094
01:07:34.920 --> 01:07:37.719
I always say, the most complicated verse is Genesis one

1095
01:07:37.800 --> 01:07:39.559
one in the beginning God, because if you're reading that

1096
01:07:39.599 --> 01:07:41.639
and you know what comes after, you're like, in the beginning, God,

1097
01:07:41.760 --> 01:07:45.159
stop right there, stop, don't do don't say that, don't

1098
01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:48.239
create don't do it because it's gonna be a disaster.

1099
01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:52.840
But in Genesis three, I've always said, what blows my

1100
01:07:52.960 --> 01:07:57.159
mind is not the back and forth between Satan or

1101
01:07:57.199 --> 01:08:00.480
the serpent and Eve. No, no, no, the woman sees it,

1102
01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:03.840
she eats. I'm not shocked by that, Okay. And then

1103
01:08:03.920 --> 01:08:07.320
this is what blows my mind. Then verse eight, and

1104
01:08:07.360 --> 01:08:09.320
they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in

1105
01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:11.400
the garden in the cool of day. Verse eight is like,

1106
01:08:12.480 --> 01:08:16.119
now you show up. Now you're gonna come. Now, you're

1107
01:08:16.119 --> 01:08:18.840
gonna come walking in the garden. You're gonna come walking

1108
01:08:18.840 --> 01:08:22.920
in the garden before I don't know, this whole thing started.

1109
01:08:23.279 --> 01:08:31.159
While this thing was starting, right before Eve took a bite. Nowhere,

1110
01:08:31.239 --> 01:08:34.920
just nowhere, just do not gonna not going to intervene.

1111
01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:37.159
And then when you read in Genesis later on, you

1112
01:08:37.199 --> 01:08:40.399
have God intervening when Abraham's like, hey, hey, hey, she's

1113
01:08:40.439 --> 01:08:43.319
not my wife, she's my sister taker. In both cases,

1114
01:08:43.359 --> 01:08:47.439
God intervenes to stop anything from happening to Sarah, stops it.

1115
01:08:47.800 --> 01:08:53.319
He intervenes when Lot's daughters are like, hey, let's get dead,

1116
01:08:53.479 --> 01:08:57.159
drunk and have physical relations with him. God doesn't intervene.

1117
01:08:58.159 --> 01:09:02.399
God intervenes, say, angelic beings into Sodom and gomor to

1118
01:09:02.439 --> 01:09:06.159
remove Lot, but doesn't intervene to stop the incests that

1119
01:09:06.279 --> 01:09:09.960
incur occurs. I mean, over and over, you see God

1120
01:09:10.039 --> 01:09:12.960
steps in and then God doesn't do anything. God steps

1121
01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:15.319
in here, but he doesn't step in to stop David.

1122
01:09:18.680 --> 01:09:21.479
That's that's the most confounding thing. But again, none of

1123
01:09:21.520 --> 01:09:25.079
that has anything to do with Ephesians four. So once again,

1124
01:09:25.439 --> 01:09:28.880
this conference which is on Ephesians four, five and six

1125
01:09:29.039 --> 01:09:33.239
or four or Ephesians four, four, five and six I've

1126
01:09:33.279 --> 01:09:36.159
had I was really hoping that we're going to deal

1127
01:09:36.199 --> 01:09:42.199
with the problem of one faith. Yet in practice there's

1128
01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:45.000
not one faith. So how do we understand one faith

1129
01:09:45.039 --> 01:09:49.720
philologically when there's not one faith practically? How do we

1130
01:09:49.840 --> 01:09:55.199
understand philologically one body when practically there is I know,

1131
01:09:55.239 --> 01:09:57.600
we can say, well there's one invisible church, but that

1132
01:09:57.720 --> 01:10:00.399
what does that even mean? We don't we you know,

1133
01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:03.800
we don't meet. There's no agreement on any but even

1134
01:10:03.800 --> 01:10:05.720
if we're a part of one invisible body, there's no

1135
01:10:05.800 --> 01:10:09.000
practical agreement practically, So how do we understand that? And

1136
01:10:09.039 --> 01:10:11.199
how do we endeavor to keep the unity? How do

1137
01:10:11.239 --> 01:10:14.399
we understand these ones that are just spoken of one body,

1138
01:10:14.439 --> 01:10:20.000
one faith, one bad, one baptism. We don't agree on baptism,

1139
01:10:20.199 --> 01:10:22.119
like those like, that's what I thought he was going

1140
01:10:22.199 --> 01:10:24.479
to say, Okay, we've got this problem. We've got one

1141
01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:28.319
faith philologically, but we don't have one faith practically. Here's

1142
01:10:28.359 --> 01:10:31.640
the problem, and here's the solution. But they didn't. They

1143
01:10:31.680 --> 01:10:36.000
skipped to over to verse seventeen. I don't understand. I

1144
01:10:36.039 --> 01:10:39.600
don't understand. There we have it.

1145
01:10:40.640 --> 01:10:40.800
Ah.

1146
01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:45.079
I thought we were gonna. I thought we were really gonna. Ah. Man,

1147
01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:50.600
Sometimes I hate myself, like why why do I do

1148
01:10:50.680 --> 01:10:55.720
these reviews without listening first? But you know that's I couldn't.

1149
01:10:55.800 --> 01:10:58.960
I couldn't pass it up one faith or one faith

1150
01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:02.279
the problem. I'm like, oh, yes, this is what we've

1151
01:11:02.279 --> 01:11:04.600
been waiting for. This is going to be good. And

1152
01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:08.920
well did not go the direction I thought I did

1153
01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:13.880
not go. Maybe we could take Ephesians four. Maybe we

1154
01:11:13.920 --> 01:11:24.119
could do this Ephesians four five, one faith, one Lord,

1155
01:11:24.159 --> 01:11:27.520
one faith, one baptism. Maybe we should do for our

1156
01:11:27.560 --> 01:11:30.279
sermon's two point oh app sermon challenge you look up

1157
01:11:30.319 --> 01:11:38.479
sermons on Ephesians four five and see how pastors handle

1158
01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:44.079
the idea. Of one faith obviously phiologically, but not one

1159
01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:52.039
faith practically, and how they connect that to walk worthy

1160
01:11:52.319 --> 01:11:58.399
and endeavor to keep the unity. Maybe that's what we

1161
01:11:58.479 --> 01:12:07.720
need to do, all right. I feel like I don't

1162
01:12:07.720 --> 01:12:10.920
know what I feel disappointed here. I feel kind of like, well,

1163
01:12:12.119 --> 01:12:14.640
now they can do It's not a criticism. They can

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handle the text anyway they want. It's a criticism as

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far as like, from my perspective I was hoping for.

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I still trying to understand the structure of effusions for

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that obviously was not their goal. That was not their intention,

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that was not their purpose, And they can do their

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conference anyway they want. It's not a criticism. It's just

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totally radically different perspectives that I'm providing. But when it

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comes to the whole fall of Man, I think every

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Christian should be asking some of those hard questions because

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I think anyone who reads the Bible should be like, wait,

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this story is really difficult to wrap my mind around

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because we have to be willing to admit when sometimes

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it's very complicated. All Right, we'll stop there. Everyone have

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a great day. I apologize. I don't know what else

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I can say. I can only when we do review.

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Whatever happens is whatever happens, so I can't I can't

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make it different. So all right, thanks for listening everyone,

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have a gret day. God bless