Oct. 18, 2024

Metaphor vs Literal? Pt 2

Metaphor vs Literal? Pt 2

We continue our discussion about Proverbs 30:11-17

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We continue our discussion about Proverbs 30:11-17

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is

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the Theology Central podcast, Making Theology Central. Can someone explain

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to me how a passage in the Book of Proverbs

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that uses a certain phrase a numerous times that phrases

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there is a generation. There is a generation. There is

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a generation. There is a generation. It uses that phrase

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multiple times, It repeats it over and over and over.

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How can a passage in Proverbs that uses the phrase

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there is a generation turn into a discussion about people

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eating people?

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Can?

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Can someone explain that to me? How is it even possible?

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It was such a like, oh, this is a sermon

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on Proverbs, chapter verses eleven through seventeen. Okay, let me

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look at the passage. Let's see verse eleven, there is

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a generation. Verse twelve, there is a generation. Verse thirteen,

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there is a generation. Verse fourteen, there is a generation.

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There is a generation. There is a generation, this generation.

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I know what I'll do. I'll write out a multiple

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pages of notes on outlining this passage and looking at

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this phrase there is a generation because it's very close

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to the phrase that a lot of older people use,

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which will be this generation, this generation, and we can

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kind of talk about that all right, I think I'm

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ready to go. I've got all my notes. I've got

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this section outlined, I've got it broken down, I've done

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some exegetical work. I've got the entire history of one

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generation talking about another generation. I've got it all ready

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to go. All right, are we ready? Okay, welcome everyone.

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We're gonna review a sermon that's on Proverbs, chapter thirty,

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verses eleven through seventeen. We're gonna make it all about

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there is a generation or this generation. This should be fun.

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Let's hit play. We hit play, and the next thing

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you know, we're talking about people eating people. Are you baffled?

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I'm baffled. And we're gonna talk about all of that.

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But first, I guess I should go ahead and give

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you a proper introduction. Good afternoon everyone. It is Friday. Yes,

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we're kicking off the weekend. We're gonna kick off the

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weekend with talking about people eating people right here on

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the Theology Central podcast. Good afternoon everyone. It is Friday,

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October eighteenth, twenty twenty four. It is currently one ten

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pm Central Time, and I am coming to you live

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from the Theology Central Studio. I was gonna say headquarters

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Theology Central Studio located right here in Abilene, Texas, and

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right here in this studio, we've got to figure out

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it's Proverbs chapter thirty, verses eleven through seventeen. At least

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one of the verses in that section. Is it talking

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about literally people eating people or is it using some

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form of metaphorical language. I know this sounds crazy, because again,

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what the text would scream at me is there is

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a generation. Let's talk about that. I mean, it's only

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repeated what four times? Let's let but no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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were we can't go there, So we're gonna go back

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to the sermon. So just so that everyone's on the

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same paging, just in case you didn't hear the last message.

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Let me try to explain. One of the things I've

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been doing recently is, obviously for the entire year, I've

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been trying to challenge and encourage people each day to

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take the sermons two point oh app find a random sermon,

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listen to it, write down the name of the sermon,

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maybe write down the name of the church, and then

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just write out a summary of what the sermon was about.

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And the goal is by the end of the year

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you'll have one sermon for every single day of twenty

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twenty four. What a great challenge, What a great way

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to get people listening to sermons, right, And so that's

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what we've been trying to do. And one of the

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things I have done is to demonstrate everyone that I'm

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participating is I'm finding random sermons and then have been

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reviewing them. Now, in most cases, I was going into

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the reviews completely blind, right. I just chose the random

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sermon hit play and we listened to it together, and

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I had no idea where things were going. I had

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no no I had no notes ready to go. I

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just I just had to rely on just wherever it

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wherever it went. Now, in some cases it worked out

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pretty well, and other cases it went really really really

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really really really really bad because by the time the

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sermon was over, we would be like, I don't even

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know what that was about. I don't know if it

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even actually dealt with the text? What was that? And

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I had no I felt like in many cases I

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wasn't able to offer a lot of you know, interesting

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or beneficial inside. So recently I started changing it up.

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I would like, choose the random sermon hit play, find

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out what passage it was about. Okay, then hit pause,

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then go do my own work, come up with all

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of my notes outline on the passage. That's where if

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the sermon just kind of just went off the track,

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left the road, I could then just revert back and

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just basically do a teaching on the passage that the

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sermon presented. In some cases, I would allow them to

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give me the scripture and give me their basic hypotheses

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on how they handled the scripture. Then we would listen

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to it, and then if I felt that their hypothesis

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was way off the mark, then I would come in

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and offer mine. So that's been kind of interesting. I

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think it's kind of mixing it up, changing it up

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a little bit. So today it was the same type

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of thing. Oh, here's a sermon. It's called Bible study. Oh,

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let's hit play. Oh it's on Proverbs chapter thirty. Oh,

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let me look at this section. There was a generation.

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There is a generation. Okay, well, obviously anyone preaching on

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Proverbs thirty eleven through seventeen is going to be really

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working on that phrase. There is a generation. There is

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a generation. My prediction was at some point they were

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going to say in the sermon there is a generation,

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ladies and gentlemen. That generation is now, it's this generation.

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And so I was all ready to go. We were

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going to analyze it. We were ready to go. So

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we started it. We made it, I don't even know

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how far fifteen twenty minutes in and all of a

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sudden it turned into a discussion about people literally eating

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other people, that there's going to come a time when

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people are going to eat poor folk. They're going to

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eat poor people, And I'm like, what is happening right now?

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So even though my mind was we're going to focus

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on there is a generation, it had to I had

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to pivot right in the middle of the broadcast and say, okay,

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we're going to talk about metaphorical language versus literal language.

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So I gave everyone kind of an assignment. I know,

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I didn't give you much time, all right, two, and

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I gave you some scriptures to look at, and I'm like, okay,

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what are the rules that determines if language is metaphorical

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and what are the rules to determine if language is literal?

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And who gets to determine which is which? So what

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we're going to do is I had to get back

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to this, right. I mean, now, one of the things

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that happened in the last episode is I had to

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kind of cut it short because the next thing, you know,

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my food had arrived way earlier than I anticipated, so

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I had to in the broadcast and run downstairs to

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get my food or you know. Yeah, So that kind

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of messed everything up, which I but at the same time,

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it kind of ended in a perfect way, right because

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we ended with the question basically, metaphorical language or literal language,

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what are the rules? And I told you to gather

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around the dinner table and have a discussion about so

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do these passages teach that people are going to literally

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eat people or not? Right? Okay, so I and I

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apologize for offending anyone, but I mean, the Bible is

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the one that's leading to this discussion. But I knew

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I had to come back. So what we're gonna do

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is we're gonna go back to the sermon that we

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were listening to. We're gonna let him once again put

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forth his hypotheses that he believes that it's at least possible.

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In fact, he kind of seems to argue that it's

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more probable that these passages see need to be interpreted literally,

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not metaphorically. Then what we're going to do is we're

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gonna step back, and we're gonna look at this is

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what we're gonna do. We're gonna look at the rules,

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the hermeneutical rules to determine if language is metaphorical or literal. Right,

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So we're gonna do that. Then we're gonna go through

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a number of the passages he cites in this section

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of the sermon, which he interprets as being literal, and

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then we're gonna apply those rules to those passages to

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see if the rules would lead us to determine that

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they're metaphorical or literal. Are you ready for this? I mean,

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this is just crazy stuff. I never in a million years,

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when I got to Proverbs thirty eleven through seventeen, would

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have ever I mean again, the phrase it's repeated verse eleven.

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There is a generation. Verse twelve, There is a generation.

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Verse thirteen, There is a generation, verse fourteen, there is

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a generation. I would have never just ignored the repeated

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phrase to get to they're eating people like I don't

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even know now. And now, let me be very let

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me be very fair, let me be very clear here

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I'm not criticizing the pastor who goes for this pastor

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that we're listening to make the argument that this is literal.

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This is just demonstrates how crazy hermeneutics can be within Christianity.

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You got someone looking at the same passage of scripture

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that I'm looking at, and their mind is this could

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be literal, and my mind is, it's obvious it's metaphorical. Right, So, oh,

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it's just different approaches to scripture. Who is right? Well,

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obviously both can't be right. So are there any rules.

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I'm not implying that there's that this pastor is doing

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anything evil or you know, there's nothing you know wrong

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about it. It's just his approach to scripture. I may

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not quite understand it. I'm a little baffled and taken

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by by it, but I'm not making any accusation. He

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put forth his hypotheses. Now what we're going to do

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is listen to him present it one more time, and

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then we're gonna we're gonna, well, we're gonna go all

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in with a hermoneutical study. So just imagine that it's Friday,

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the weekend is almost here, and you got one more

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class today and you walk into class and you're in

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hermonutics class, and I look at everyone, like, all right,

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today before the weekend kicks off in Hermonutics one oh one,

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Today we're going to talk about eating people or not

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really eating people, which is it eating the people or

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not eating the people or metaphorical? And then that will

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be your last class. And then the bell will ring

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and you can say it's Friday, and you can run

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off and have your weekend, or you could run off

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and go, guys meet in the day room. We got

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to talk about this. Hey, is this literal or metaphorical? No,

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nobody's gonna go there. You're going to go have a

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good weekend. I understand. But so before the weekend begins,

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one more class. Are you ready? It's Hermaudics one oh one.

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Here we go. Here was the sermon that kicked all

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of this off. I thought it was going to be

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a discussion about there is a generation. I guess what

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this has turned into. There is a generation that will

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eat literally eat poor people. That is what this has

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turned into. Are you ready? Here we go? Now? I

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just backed this up a little bit. I don't I

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don't know if I've got everything, but I think we're

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I think we've got enough here to get us where

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we need to go. We just need him to basically

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establish his basic hypotheses and then we then we're off

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to the races. So here, how did we end up here?

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I'm telling you, see, listening to sermons much more fun.

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It's more fun, it's more entertaining. It's what you've been

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looking for your whole life. You've been like, I keep

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looking for something to do. Just listen to sermons and

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then you'll have a discussion about literally people eating people.

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Like what is okay? All right? Here, here we go.

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And there's a generation there's full of pride. Verson from

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thirteen in that iteration, that's verse thirteen. Look at fourteen.

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I didn't quite understand that because verse thirteen is about pride.

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It's interesting that it's verse thirteen. Is thirteen associated with pride?

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I'm not getting it. What's the significance of thirteen? Am

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I missing something here? Because everyone everyone in the congregation

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was like yeah, like every like, am I missing something here?

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are the superstitions around the I know it's supposedly bad luck. Okay,

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Friday thirteenth. Many of you Friday thirteenth as an unlucky day. Okay,

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there's a fear of the number thirteen itself. Some people

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have an actual phobia. In Norse mythology, the the whoa,

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the see oh, the god Loki was the thirteenth kiss

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as a dinner party in Valhalla, leading to the death

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of the god Balder, which caused IDEs spread grief among gods.

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and the thirteenth member of the group was the devil.

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so thirteen, being one number beyond completeness is seen as

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irregular and disconcerting Western weddings, some superstitious discouraged thirteen gifts

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at a dinner party, party, or wedding. I don't know

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what is thirteen? Is the number thirteen in the Bible

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associated with pride. Everybody in the church seemed to get it. Yeah,

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the number thirteen is not directly associated with pride in

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the Bible in a way that stands out as a

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recurring theme or symbol. While numbers like seven, twelve, and

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forty have more clear biblical significance. Thirteen doesn't carry the

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same consistent symbolic meaning. However, some interpret interpretations from biblical

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numerology claim that thirteen is connected to rebellion, lawlessness, oh,

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which can relate to pride. Oh okay, all right, I

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guess that's where it was coming from. I was like,

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where is the he says in that interesting, it's the

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thirteenth verse. Just remember first, the verses were not a

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part of the original. They were added later. So he's

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acting like the numbers are somehow he's seeing it interesting

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that that's verse thirteen and it's about pride. The verse,

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the chapters, the chapter verse division was not part of

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the origin. They were added. What was it the I

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have to look at the I thought it was like

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it was late, it was much later. I don't have

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the year in front of me. I don't want to

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state it, but you can look it up. So, yeah,

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that's just weird. But all right, but that's not what

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we want to get to, right. Remember we're in Proverbs

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chapter thirty. I thought that this entire discussion would be

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about this generation, this generation, or there is a generation

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we found ourselves talking about now people eating people, and

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that's about to happen the next verse. Are you ready,

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Here we go. This is where things are going to

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get a little weird. Just hold on, buckle up. Here

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we go.

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There's a generation whose teeth are as swords and their

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jaw teeth as knives. Well, what for to devour the

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poor from off the earth and the needy from among men?

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metaphorically speaking, but there is coming a time on the

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earth when men will eat poor folks.

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its metaphorical language, but there is a time. Now he

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speaks of it dogmatic. There is a time coming upon

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this earth. There is a time. So he's saying prophetically

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that people will eat eat poor folks. There's coming a

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time where people on this earth will eat poor folks.

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He's saying it dogmatically. He's asserting it's a dogmatic certainty,

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which then calls into question should we read this as

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a metaphor? All right, now, well, letting he's going to

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develop this hypothesis. He's going to develop his theory by

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doing some cross referencing Okay, just write down all of

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these cross references. So Proverbs thirty fourteen, he says, Hey,

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you could read this as metaphorical language, but there is

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coming a time. He states it a dogmatic It's a

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dogmatic assertion that on this earth, men are going to

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people are going to eat poor folk. All right, again,

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I would have never and the last message, that's why

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you hear in my introduction, oh this generation. I had

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the whole discussion about this generation ready to go. Well,

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I had no idea that Proverbs thirty was going to

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turn into a discussion about people eating people. This is like, really,

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I've got we got to figure this out. So again,

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let's just keep going. I've already given you all the questions.

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I mean, you're you're as ready as you can be

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for this. We just we had to bring this to

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some kind of conclusion. I mean, we cannot start our

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weekend until we figure this out, all right, So are

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you ready? Here we go.

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With their teeth and with their jawels, just like that.

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Proverb says, just a few places, look at Psalms fourteen.

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Psalms fourteen. Coming through the Book of Proverbs, all thirty

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one chapters, there is just all kind of prophetic stuff

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in there about the tribulation, the anti crash. You know

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how we ken't run across versus it says the wicked,

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the wicked, the wicked, and uh, I could have run

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off and talked to you all a bunch of stuff

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about the wicked being the devil the Antichrist.

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Okay, So in Proverbs there's all kinds of prophetic passages,

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and when it says the wicked, the wicked, the wicked,

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he could have taught us that the wicked is the

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devil or the Antichrist. Now this, ladies and gentlemen, I

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don't even know what's happening right here. Okay. First of all,

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is how much prophecy is in the Book of Proverbs.

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I mean, it's a completely different it's a different, completely

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different literary genre. So I'm already like baffled. And so

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that the wicked and Proverbs, whenever you see that, that's

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referring to the devil or the and the Antichrist. So

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when it says the wicked, the wicked, that's the devil

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in the Antichrist. I mean, there's there are so many

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directions we can go even trying to follow this, but

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we're gonna we're gonna get to the eating of the people.

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follow this or we're gonna get to the eating of

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the people. Let's see where this goes.

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And go after your adoptrinal truth there.

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I've been coming through here just trying to get a

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practical application that we can apply to ourselves. Okay, well,

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I guess we could do the same thing in Proverbs

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thirty fourteen and just get a practical application. But it's

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just pretty evident here the thing is literal. Look at

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sounds four.

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All right. Did you hear that it's pretty evident that

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it's literal. So he's not just now making he's just

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not throwing out kind of a hypothesis. He's making it

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much more dogmatic. He's being much more assertive that it's

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clear that it's literal. It's not metaphorical, it's literal. Now,

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the way he seems to ap approach this, his hermineutic

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seems to be, well, let's not look at the literary genre,

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let's not look at the context. His hermeneutical approach is

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let's just go from Proverbs thirty verse. I think he

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said verse fourteen. I mean, let's see, Well, let me

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go back to Proverbs here. I want to make sure

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I quote the right verse. Yeah, Proverbs thirty fourteen. His

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herminutic seems to be this, Proverbs thirty fourteen uses this

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kind of language. Now, let's go look at other passages

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that use the same kind of language, and now let's

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just make the assertion all of them are literal. That's

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not really proving that they're literal. He's just asserting that

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they're literal. He's not offering, like, so, what are their

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hermeneutical principles that would lead him to determine that this

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language isn't metaphorical, that it's literal. What are the rules?

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What are the rules? Are their hermeneutical rules? See, that's

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the direction. His argument is, it uses this language. Let's

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look up other scriptures that use similar language, and now

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let's just assert that all of them are literal. But

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is that the way you do this? I don't. Let

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the Book of Psalms, Psalm fourteen. All right, let let's

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see where he's going to go here.

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Fourteen When you put it with some other verses in

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the Bible. I'm just going to show you three and

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we'll move on Psalms fourteen four. Have all the workers

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of iniquity no knowledge?

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We're studying right now about add knowledgeingly. I guess without it,

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you become a worker of iniquity. And look what it

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says after that, who eat up my people as they

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eat bread, and call not upon the Lord. So there

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are some people that don't call on the Lord. They

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are workers of iniquity. They don't have no knowledge, and

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they eat people just like they eat bread.

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but he's already seemed to made a dogmatic assertion that

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these verses are talking about people eating people like he's

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saying it in a very literal way. Now he says,

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Isaiah six, Now this is the one. I think I

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missed the last one in our last message, because while

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I was, I knew at one I was running out

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of time, and two I was I was all discombobulated

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because I thought we were going to be talking about

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there is a generation, there is a generation. Because that's

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repeated four times in just a few verses, I'm like, okay,

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that's what we're going to be talking about. I would

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have never predicted that this is going to turn into

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a discussion about cannibalism and people eating people literal or metaphorical,

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but here we are. So now Danny says, go to

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Isaiah six again. I want you to see his hermonutical approach.

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This is why sometimes when people make a comment when

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they talk about hermauticts, well you interpret scripture with scripture.

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Well that sounds so wonderful, but that just means people

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will just start cross referencing anything. Well, I've looked at

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this verse, I looked at this verse. I looked at

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this verse. I've got three verses. Boom, I've proven my point,

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and you just kind of want to look at them, like,

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what are you even talking about. That's not hermeneutics. Just

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grabbing random verses and connecting them together doesn't prove anything.

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That's what I sometimes refer to as death by cross reference.

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I mean, now he's looking up similar verses. I'm not

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saying we should not look up the similar verses, but

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his argument is if I five similar verses that use

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similar language, then I can just then argue that they're

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all to be interpreted literal and not metaphorical. Well, please

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note where we've gone so far. We've been in Proverbs,

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We've been in Psalms. Hmm, what literary genre is it?

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And is that literary genre known for metaphor? Just Proverbs Psalms,

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those two books, what literary genre is that? And is

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it known for the use of metaphor? Now we're in Isaiah.

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What type of literary genre is Isaiah? Is it known

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from metaphor? I'm just asking the question, right, I mean,

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this is herma Eudics one oh one class, right, this

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is the last class before you start your weekend. Right,

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so you guys are in Hermautics class. You should already

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know this. You should be able to know all the

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literary genres and what are the characteristics of each literary genre.

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I mean, that's like basic one oh one. If you

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know Christians who can identify the literary genre of each

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book of the Bible and know the basic characteristics of

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each literary genre, they probably shouldn't be telling you they

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know what the Bible means, right, But let's see what

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Isaiah six. What is he going to do with Isaiah six?

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Isiah six.

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In the Bible, when it says my people, who is that?

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That's Israel?

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Now again, my people? Does it always mean Israel? Now

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when you say my people in the Old Testament? I

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think we can say that it's reference to Israel if

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it says my people in the New Testament. Now does

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the New Testament use the phrase my people? All right?

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Lots of hermeneutical questions we would have here interpretive questions.

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But okay, So he's going to go to Isaiah six. Obviously,

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whichever verse he's going to find, I'm assuming it's going

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to use the phrase my people, and I'm assuming it's

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going to have something to do with people being eaten

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according to him. Where that's where he seems to be going.

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Let's see where this goes. We're in Isaiah Six's let's

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see where he goes.

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Here, Isaiah six, third team. But yet in it shall

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be a tenth, and it shall return and shall be

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eaten as a teal tree and as an oak whose

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substance is in them when they cast their leaves. So

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the holy seed shall be the substance thereof that holy

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seed is Israel. That's a chi Visrael he's talking about.

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He's talking about a tenth of those people returning, and

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it says they'll be eaten.

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I think about it.

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Says as this oak tree, whose substances in them when

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they cast their leaves. Right now the sap is going down,

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and when that sap goes down, the leaves fall off

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the trees. See, he says, the holy seed shall be

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the substance thereof. It's the substance of those tenth not

459
00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:11.640
there turned to.

460
00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:21.119
Micah, so his argument in Isaiah six thirteen. But yet

461
00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:25.960
in it shall a tenth and it shall return and

462
00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:30.599
shall be eaten as as till tree, and as an oak,

463
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:33.960
whose substance is in them when they cast their leaves.

464
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:38.440
So the holy seed shall be substance thereof. Now he's

465
00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:41.880
saying the eating, the eating there is an eating literally

466
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:45.319
of a part of Israel. He's saying it's literal. But

467
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:49.359
just look at the verse we got as a till tree.

468
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:53.680
Is the till tree literal as an oak? Now there

469
00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:57.519
you're clearly that as an that's literally showing that there's

470
00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:03.039
a metaphorical language. There's some this is like this, So

471
00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:06.400
do we we will have to break this down more.

472
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:09.039
But just so, he goes to Isaiah six thirteen, and

473
00:29:09.079 --> 00:29:12.680
his argument is, Isaiah six thirteen, that's literal people being

474
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:17.000
literally eaten. Psalm fourteen four that's people literally being eaten.

475
00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:20.680
And Proverbs thirty fourteen that's people literally being eaten. So

476
00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:23.640
he believes all of these passages. Now he's not proven

477
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:26.839
why he's approaching it this way. He's just arguing, I've

478
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:29.680
got cross references, and cross references prove my point, and

479
00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:32.599
my point is people are literally being eaten. He's not

480
00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:36.920
offering this is just so hard to follow. But we're

481
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:39.559
gonna break this down. We'll keep I've got lots of

482
00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:42.839
notes here in Isaiah. The Isaiah passage would take us

483
00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:44.440
a long time to break down. I want to break

484
00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:46.640
it down now. Maybe we'll get to it. Maybe we'll

485
00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:48.839
have to do three, four five parts on this. I

486
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:51.599
didn't want this to turn into a series, but here

487
00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:53.839
we are. I mean, this al was going to be

488
00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:57.400
like a little Hey, here's a message on Proverbs thirty

489
00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:01.359
eleven through seventeen. It talks abut out there is a generation.

490
00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:04.319
Let's have that discussion, and it'd be almost like a

491
00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:06.480
devotional thing. I didn't know it was going to turn

492
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:09.880
into a full blown hermeneutic on people eating people. But

493
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:11.960
now now he's going to go to Micah. Now he's

494
00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:13.480
going to go to Micah. All right, he's going to

495
00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:14.720
go to Micah. So if you want to go ahead

496
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:16.720
and turn to Micah, it's going to be chapter three.

497
00:30:16.880 --> 00:30:20.839
I believe it's like verses one through five. If I remember, yeah,

498
00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:23.880
Micah chapter three, I got it right here. Yeah, it's

499
00:30:24.279 --> 00:30:27.559
versus one one through four, Micah three, versus one four.

500
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:29.240
That's where he's going to go. It's gonna take him

501
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:32.079
a while to get there. I think he can't find

502
00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:34.400
it at first, which is perfectly okay not I mean,

503
00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:37.079
that can happen to anyone. But he's going to ultimately

504
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:38.960
get there, and then he's going to go to Micah three,

505
00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:40.680
and once again he's going to make an argument that

506
00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:43.640
this is literally people eating people. Here we go.

507
00:30:45.720 --> 00:31:09.640
Micah chapter number three. Then we'll go to Revelations. Daniel

508
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:18.559
over died Jonah, Michaeh by a way, Michaeh three one,

509
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.839
And I said, here, I pray you, old heads of

510
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:27.279
Jacob and ye princes of the House of Israel. Is

511
00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:30.279
it not for you to know judgment, who hate the

512
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:33.000
good and love the evil, who pluck off their skin

513
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:38.119
from off them, and their flesh from off their bones,

514
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:42.640
who also eat the flesh of my people and flay

515
00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:45.960
their skin from off them, and they break their bones

516
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:49.240
and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and

517
00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:53.799
as flesh within the cauldron. Then shall they cry to

518
00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:56.119
the Lord. But he will not hear them. He will

519
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:59.359
even hide his face from them at that time, as

520
00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:02.480
they have behaved themselves ill in their doings.

521
00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:08.799
Now just note, so after this happens, then they will

522
00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:11.640
cry onto the Lord. If you've been eaten, you can't

523
00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:15.920
cry unto the Lord. Now you could argue, well, the

524
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:18.680
people crying to the to the Lord of the people

525
00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:21.839
left over, they are the people who didn't get eaten. Okay,

526
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:24.359
I guess you could go there. But all right now

527
00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:26.400
he kind of laughs right there. Now he's getting ready

528
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:29.400
to once again make an argument that this is not metaphorical,

529
00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:30.680
that this is literal. Here we go.

530
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:37.240
You see all that stuff about eating people, Yeah, it's gross.

531
00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:42.559
So when he says there's a generation whose teeth are

532
00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:46.359
like swords, you know, and their jaw teeth is nice,

533
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:53.839
and it's for diviirn poor people. There's coming a time

534
00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:57.160
on a generation on this earth. Okay, a time period

535
00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:01.799
in that Great Tribulation to where if you don't take

536
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:05.240
the mark of the beast, you don't buy and sale,

537
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:12.720
so you're automatically poor, you understand. And they turned into

538
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:13.799
Revelation seventeen.

539
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:24.359
So his argument is that all these passages are pointing

540
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:29.039
to a time coming the Great Tribulation where people are

541
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:33.920
going to eat people. They're going to eat the poor folk. Now,

542
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:36.920
even in the Proverbs thirty, if you're going to take

543
00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:39.160
the eating as literal, If you're going to take the

544
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:44.119
eating as literal, just go back to Proverbs thirty. Proverbs thirty.

545
00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:46.480
Even if you're gonna take this as literal, look at

546
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:50.279
what you would have. There is a generation whose teeth

547
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:53.680
are as swords, and their jaw teeth as knives. See

548
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:56.640
the knives that all of that. Clearly, their teeth are

549
00:33:56.680 --> 00:33:59.880
not going to be like not knives. It's a metaphor,

550
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:03.839
they're not going to be swords. So clearly it's the

551
00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:07.400
text itself is showing you I'm using metaphorical language. But

552
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:11.440
he so he would argue that that is metaphor. But

553
00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:18.320
the eating is literal, and that just becomes wow. Okay,

554
00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:20.199
So now we're in the Book of Revelation. I don't

555
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:22.519
know which chapter he's going to go to yet. He

556
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:23.960
may have said and I may have missed it. Hopefully

557
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:26.840
he repeats it. I think we'll see. He's going to

558
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:28.960
go to Revelation now with What he's going to argue

559
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:31.760
is that all of these passages are prophecy, pointing to

560
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:33.840
the fact that a generation is coming, which will be

561
00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:36.159
during the Great Tribulation. People are going to be poor

562
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:38.360
because I don't take the mark, and these people are

563
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:42.679
going to be eaten. Now, if the poor people are

564
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:45.079
being eaten by someone else, who are the people eating

565
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:47.280
the poor people? And if the other people aren't poor,

566
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:49.519
why are they eating the poor people? Wouldn't be the

567
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:53.400
argument that poor people are eating poor people. Let's see

568
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:57.760
how he breaks this down.

569
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:06.800
There's gonna be a system set up over there in

570
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:12.599
Jerusalem with the Antichrist in charge. He's gonna want people

571
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:14.519
to take the mark of the Beast. And if they don't,

572
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:20.000
and they're captured, and many will, many Jews will.

573
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:22.239
We kept reading about my people.

574
00:35:26.280 --> 00:35:29.039
There's another place in the in Revelation where it says

575
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:34.480
they's gonna die the death, and it's defined as decapitation,

576
00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:38.079
cutting their heads off. And I tell you what it

577
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:42.079
looks like to me, it looks like they're drinking their

578
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:45.639
blood and eating their bodies.

579
00:35:48.119 --> 00:35:51.320
All right, So the people killing the poor are gonna

580
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:58.079
chop off their heads, drink their blood, and eat their bodies.

581
00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:02.960
I don't want any Christians to ever say that, you know,

582
00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:09.079
Netflix movies are bad, Okay, that Harry Potter shouldn't be read.

583
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:12.039
What in the world is happening here? So supposedly in

584
00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:14.360
the Book of Revelation, people's heads are gonna be chopped off,

585
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:17.440
and they're gonna drink their blood and eat their bodies.

586
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:20.280
And this is a fulfillment of the prophecy I guess

587
00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:24.800
and Proverbs thirty fourteen, Psalm fourteen, four Micah three went

588
00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:27.440
through five Isaiah six, whatever verse that was, and that

589
00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:28.880
all of these are saying that there's going to come

590
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:30.880
a time where people are going to eat poor folk,

591
00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:33.719
and the people are going to be eating the poor folk,

592
00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:35.199
or the people who don't really need to eat the

593
00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:38.360
poor folk because they're not poor. They're just going to

594
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:40.320
be doing it because I guess they're wicked, and they

595
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:43.440
just want to eat human flesh. I guess that is

596
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:45.719
that's where this is going. Let's see how this all.

597
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:49.280
Let's see how this all plays out here here we go.

598
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:52.800
See it in Revelation seventeen six.

599
00:36:54.519 --> 00:37:01.360
And I saw the woman who's that, that's right Rome.

600
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:06.559
And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of

601
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:11.159
the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus.

602
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:14.480
And when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

603
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:17.639
Remember how what is it?

604
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:18.760
Matthew twenty four.

605
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:24.519
He talks about the abomination of desolation is prophesied in

606
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:27.400
Daniel in the Book of Daniel Daniel chapter number eleven

607
00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:33.519
and Daniel chapt number twelve. He says, he's going to

608
00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:35.360
take away the Antichrist is going to come in. He's

609
00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:37.760
going to take away the daily sacrifice in the temple,

610
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:45.719
and they're going to place the abomination that maketh desola.

611
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:47.079
This is what it looks like is going to.

612
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:53.000
Happen, all right, proverbs Our Matthew twenty four is dealing

613
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:55.480
with what's going to happen leading up to seventy a d.

614
00:37:55.679 --> 00:37:58.719
So already we're already all over the place. Okay, throwing

615
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:01.000
in Daniel passages, and now he's saying that this is

616
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:02.360
what it's going to look like. So is he saying

617
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:08.960
the abomination that leads to desolation is Rome eating actual people?

618
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:10.719
Is that is that where this is going? Well, if

619
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:12.280
you're gonna connect it to Matthew twenty four, then that

620
00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:14.239
would be what happened leading up to seventy eight. Y

621
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:17.119
oh boy. Okay, all right, so we got to keep

622
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:19.360
this straight. So let's see how he explains this and

623
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:21.159
then we can then we can have kind of a

624
00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:23.480
hermeneutical discussion about this. All right, here we go.

625
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:31.480
They're gonna take humans, poor people instead of offering lambs

626
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:36.960
and sheep and doves and cows on those altars like

627
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:39.880
God told them to in the temple, They're gonna take

628
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:44.400
Jews and martyrs for Jesus Christ in the tribulation period,

629
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:48.559
and they're gonna chop off their head and as part

630
00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:52.360
of the worship service, they're gonna drink their blood. That's

631
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:57.639
what you just read in Revelation seventeen, drunken with the bloody. Well,

632
00:38:57.679 --> 00:38:59.960
it's just figurative, that's just that's.

633
00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:00.599
Just the metaphor.

634
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:07.519
Yeah maybe maybe.

635
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:09.639
Okay, Well, he goes back to maybe. Now he goes

636
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:12.599
back to maybe. He got kind of very dogmatic earlier.

637
00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:14.840
Now he's kind of backing up a little bit to

638
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:18.000
the maybe. So I don't know if it's definite. Now

639
00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:21.400
may at least at least he's offering the opportunity that

640
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:24.159
it could possibly be metaphor. Now, the thing is, once

641
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:28.119
you get into the discussion about literal or metaphor metaphorical,

642
00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:31.039
why would he not then go into the hermoneutical principles

643
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:34.559
to demonstrate if it's metaphorical or literal? Because there are

644
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:37.599
hermaeutical principles that address this subject that's been talked about

645
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:40.280
for you know, throughout all of church history. Why would

646
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:43.159
you not then pull in those principles, right? I mean,

647
00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:47.360
he's just throwing out the speculation. I guess that's okay.

648
00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:49.920
But at some point, maybe maybe maybe the next week

649
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:53.719
he offered up the issues. Well, we're gonna get into it.

650
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:55.519
I'm gonna let him finish his point because I don't

651
00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:57.079
want it to be like I'm taking anything out of

652
00:39:57.079 --> 00:39:57.719
context here.

653
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:05.239
And all those verses about eating the flesh and filaying them,

654
00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:12.599
and I told you last Sunday, since it's October about

655
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:17.000
this holiday that's coming up. That is the Satanist holiday

656
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:18.000
of the year.

657
00:40:18.440 --> 00:40:19.000
It just is.

658
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:22.519
And I've read books about what they do to people

659
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:25.440
on that day.

660
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:32.039
Oh, for crying out loud, where's my Satanic Bible? Hang on,

661
00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:36.679
I'm looking here, Oh here it is? All right, Okay,

662
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:40.239
I guess so tired of pastors I read about what

663
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:42.880
they do to people who are the they are you

664
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:46.400
referring to Satanists, like the Church of Satan what they

665
00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:49.400
do for people, because you clearly don't understand Satanism. And

666
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.679
if you're gonna say it's the holiday for Satanists, let

667
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:59.000
me go to the actual chapter. Man, hang on, let

668
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:04.239
me find the actual chapter. Here it is. I always

669
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:09.519
forget which chapter. It's page ninety six, page ninety six.

670
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:15.039
The chapters don't have numbers religious holidays, page ninety six

671
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:19.280
Satanic Bible. Always make sure I have this round on

672
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:23.039
October because you always know Christian's gonna start saying wacky things. Okay,

673
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:27.199
all right, here we go. The highest, the highest holiday,

674
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:33.760
the number one holiday for a Satanist. The number one,

675
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:37.639
the highest, the most holy day for a Satanist is

676
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:44.519
not Halloween. Any pastor who tells you that is misrepresenting everything.

677
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:46.800
Let me read it to you. This is page ninety

678
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:50.199
six of the Satanic Bible. If I had video always

679
00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:51.599
show you. If I need to, I can take a

680
00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:54.480
picture and post it. I can send it out as

681
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:57.920
I'll put it as an article on the Sermon Audio website.

682
00:41:57.920 --> 00:41:59.519
But I'll probably get in trouble for doing that. But

683
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:02.360
here it is. There's Anton Lave's in the back standing

684
00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:04.320
in front of a pentagram. Okay, here we go, here we.

685
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:04.960
Go, all right.

686
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:09.320
The highest of all holidays and the Satanic religion, is

687
00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:16.320
the date of one's own birth. This is in direct

688
00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:20.880
contradiction to the holy of holy days of other religions,

689
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:25.360
which deify a particular God who has been created in

690
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:31.039
an anthropomorphic form of their own image, thereby allowing that

691
00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:35.679
the ego is not really buried. The Satanist feels, why

692
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:37.920
not really be honest, and if you're going to create

693
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:40.599
a god in your image, why not create that god

694
00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:44.320
as yourself. Every man is a god if he chooses

695
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:48.719
to recognize himself as one. So the Satanist celebrates his

696
00:42:48.800 --> 00:42:54.559
own birthday as the most important holiday of the year.

697
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:58.039
If you're going to get all upset about Satanic holidays.

698
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:05.599
Stop celebrating birth days. Man, every year, I got to

699
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:07.920
do that exact same thing. Been doing it for now.

700
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:12.599
It feels like my entire Christian life, I mean my

701
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:19.199
entire you know what's hilarious, My entire my salvation is

702
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:22.599
very much linked to a discussion about the Satanic Bible.

703
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:25.400
I've told the story a million times. I'm in high school.

704
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:27.800
There's a guy who claims to be a Satanist, right,

705
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:29.960
he claims to be a Satanist, and he's talking to

706
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:32.920
all these Christian girls, right, and they're trying to invite

707
00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:36.079
him to the revival, the Fall Revival going on that night,

708
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:38.239
and he's just saying all these things, I'm a Satanist

709
00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:41.280
and Satanist this, and Satanist that, and Satanists do this

710
00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:45.360
and Satanists do that. And I'm like, dude, stop. So

711
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:47.199
I just kind of get involved. It's not that I'm

712
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:49.239
taking up for the Christian girls because I think they're

713
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:51.559
all you know, I hate to say it, I thought

714
00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:53.800
they were all idiots, so you know whatever, And I'm

715
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:56.039
just like, dude, come on, man, the Satanic Bible doesn't

716
00:43:56.039 --> 00:43:59.000
say this Satanic, but you're just making up stuff. You

717
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:01.199
sound like you've got it from a horror movie. That's

718
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:05.599
not Satanism, all right. Satanism is atheistic, you worship yourself, right,

719
00:44:05.880 --> 00:44:09.039
it's come on, satan is just a symbol of these things.

720
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:10.920
Can you get it? Right? And so I kind of

721
00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:13.679
jump in. Well, then afterwards the girls are like, oh,

722
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:15.760
thank you so much for taking up for us. We

723
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:18.440
really appreciate it, Okay, And I know I'm kind of mocking,

724
00:44:18.480 --> 00:44:20.000
but yeah, that's kind of how I felt. And I'm like,

725
00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:23.280
just leave me alone and go jump off a bridge somewhere.

726
00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:25.559
Just don't bother me. And they're like, you need to

727
00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:27.679
come to our Fall Revival and I'm like, no, I'm

728
00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:29.840
not coming to your Fall Revival. Leave me alone, right,

729
00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:32.239
So I went home and then well, chaos erupted in

730
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:34.760
my house and it was crazy and violent, and so

731
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:36.719
I'm like, well, I'm going somewhere and guess where I

732
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:39.480
ended up at the Fall Revival And guess what happened.

733
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:44.559
I got saved, all right. So my salvation is connected

734
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:48.559
to me arguing about what Satanism really is. And now,

735
00:44:48.599 --> 00:44:50.880
all of these years later, I'm still arguing about what

736
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:51.840
Satanism really is.

737
00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:52.039
Now.

738
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:54.880
If you want to say, if you want to identify

739
00:44:55.320 --> 00:44:59.679
a certain form of Satanism, then please identify. And when

740
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:03.039
you say, hey, I've been reading some books, please give

741
00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:06.000
me the name of said books. I would love to

742
00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:10.440
know those books and which Satanism they are referencing. But

743
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:13.039
whenever it gets around Halloween, Christians just say the most

744
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:16.719
ridiculous things about Satanism. I remember being a Grace University.

745
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:19.760
I don't even know what class I was in, and

746
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:22.079
everybody was just saying it. It was around October and

747
00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:24.440
everybody was saying these ridiculous things about Satanists. And I'm like,

748
00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:28.079
would you people just stop talking? And I think I

749
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:30.800
had with me my Satanic Bible and I pulled it

750
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:34.239
out and neverbody oooh, oh my goodness. So everybody hit

751
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:36.639
the floor like I pulled out a gun. I'm like, look,

752
00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:38.840
if you're gonna talk about it, how about you actually

753
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:41.039
open it up. So let me say again, if you've

754
00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:44.679
got Christians running around saying Halloween it's a Satanic holiday,

755
00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:49.000
it's the highest holiday of a Satanist. No birthday is now. Oh,

756
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:52.000
if you want to talk about Halloween, if you want

757
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:55.360
to just talk about it, if you want to talk

758
00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:58.079
about it, if you want to be, you know, if

759
00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:02.719
you want to be really really really really fair with it.

760
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:08.239
Halloween is mentioned, all right, so uh so after one's

761
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:11.840
own birthday, the two major Satanic holidays is and I

762
00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:14.920
don't even know how to pronounce the next one, uh

763
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:18.760
and then the third. So Halloween is the third most

764
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:23.320
important holiday to a Satanist, the third, not the first,

765
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:28.960
not even the second, the third, okay, the third. So

766
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:31.199
can we at least get it? Look, and you know

767
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:33.840
why this bothers me, because we're not supposed to bear

768
00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:39.079
false witness, right, And you can get a paperback copy

769
00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:42.559
of the Satanic Bible for probably about five dollars, all right,

770
00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:46.320
probably buy it for us for a dollar fifty dollar

771
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:50.480
fifty probably all right. Anybody have one, okay, and people

772
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:55.079
like but in us demons on it. The Satanism of

773
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:59.039
Anton Leavey is a theistic all right. Come on, now,

774
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:01.000
let's see what he's going to say here, what they

775
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:03.280
do to people. This reminds me of the eighties, the

776
00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:06.119
Great Satanic Scare of the eighties, where we thought we're

777
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:08.639
all going to be kidnapped and sacrificed by Satanists. They

778
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:12.320
were all supposedly roaming around, okay, remember that. Okay, that's

779
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:15.880
there's the entire articles written about the subject. I lived

780
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:16.719
through it. I know.

781
00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:18.840
You know what they do.

782
00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:23.960
They drink their blood, They chop their bodies up. They

783
00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:28.719
actually use a hamburger grinder. I have one. I make

784
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:33.519
sausage with it, make hamburger mate. And they grind them

785
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:38.559
up in that thing and makes it with their drink

786
00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:42.519
and drink it. It gives them demonic powers. They say, So

787
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:43.320
there's nothing near you.

788
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:52.000
What satanist grinds people up in a hemburger or whatever

789
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:54.880
thing he called and mixes it with their drink to

790
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:56.440
give them to where.

791
00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:08.840
Oh man, let's see here. I think I have the chapter.

792
00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:14.000
Thank god, I think I have the chapter. I may

793
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:14.760
not here.

794
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:23.960
See eighty seven? Case is it chapter eighty seven?

795
00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:25.679
Uh?

796
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:43.280
Okay, yeah, just right here. Contrary to all established magical theory,

797
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:45.719
the release of this force is not affected in the

798
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:48.039
actual spilling of blood, but in the death throes of

799
00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:52.280
the living creature. This discharge of bioelectrical energy is the

800
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:56.920
very same phenomenon which occurs during any profound heightening of

801
00:48:56.960 --> 00:48:59.280
the emotions, such as and I can't go into what

802
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:03.920
they say next, blind anger, mortal terror, consuming grief. Of

803
00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:07.599
these emotions, the easiest entered into is one's own violation

804
00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:10.679
or well, I won't go into that, or anger, with

805
00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:13.760
grief running a close third. Remembering that the two most

806
00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:17.880
readily available of these three anger, I'll just go with

807
00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:21.199
that one have been burned into man's unconscious as sinful

808
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:24.119
by religionists. It is small wonder that they are shunned

809
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:26.719
by the white magician who plods along carrying the greatest

810
00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:29.239
of all millstone guilt. Right, what goes in here and

811
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:32.239
basically what is here? We go? The use of human

812
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:35.199
sacrifice and Satanic ritual does not imply that the sacrifice

813
00:49:35.199 --> 00:49:39.519
is slaughtered to appease the gods. Symbolically, the victim is

814
00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:42.400
destroyed through the working of a hex or curse, which

815
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:45.639
in turn leads to physical, mental, or emotional destruction of

816
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:49.400
the sacrifice in ways and means not attributed to the magician.

817
00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:53.960
All right, So this would be going against the idea

818
00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:56.239
of human sacrifice. Now, it does get into some things

819
00:49:56.239 --> 00:49:59.239
here that are very disturbing by all means, right, gets

820
00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:01.679
into some things that we would be completely against. I'm

821
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:05.639
not saying it's not I'm not saying Satanism and its

822
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:08.760
form is Christian, or we would agree with it. I'm

823
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:12.159
just saying we have to we have to represent it correctly,

824
00:50:12.440 --> 00:50:23.440
all right, Okay, under no circumstance would a Satanist sacrifice

825
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:28.159
any animal or baby. For centuries, propagandists of the right

826
00:50:28.280 --> 00:50:32.440
hand have path have been prattling over the supposed sacrifices

827
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:37.760
of small children and vulptuous, vulptuous maidens at the hands

828
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:41.400
of diabolitis. It would be thought that anyone reading or

829
00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:44.760
hearing of these heinous accounts would immediately question their authenticity,

830
00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:48.079
taking into consideration the bias sources of these stories. On

831
00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:52.199
the contrary, as with all holy lies, which are accepted

832
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:57.800
without reservation, this assumed modus upperendi of the Satanists persists

833
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:01.199
to this day. So they say that, but under no

834
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:05.079
circumstances would that happen. Yet it's continued promoting. They even

835
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:07.800
call it propagad They even tell you that this this,

836
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:10.519
this is what religious people do, and religious people go

837
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:13.400
around doing the very thing saying to say religious people

838
00:51:13.400 --> 00:51:15.559
do and not even realize they're doing what the Satanic

839
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:18.559
Bible even says they do. Now, look, if you know

840
00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:21.519
of a specific group that does this identify the group

841
00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:25.159
by name, say where they're headquartered, where are they at?

842
00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:26.760
Who are And if you just say, well I read

843
00:51:26.760 --> 00:51:29.559
it in a book, what book? I can read anything

844
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:33.719
in a book. Well, if you quote a book, I

845
00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:36.119
can quote a book. You quote a book about a group,

846
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:39.719
I'll quote the book by the group. Now, if you've

847
00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:43.159
got inside information, then then okay, then give me, give

848
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:46.079
me the evidence. But mean and mean cases you're making.

849
00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:50.280
In most cases, you're just making accusations and you could

850
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:54.639
be bearing false witness. All right, now this turned in. Now,

851
00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:57.440
see we're not gonna even get We're not even gonna

852
00:51:57.480 --> 00:52:00.119
get where we need to go. All right, we need

853
00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:06.320
to get to metaphorical language. But here, you know, and hey,

854
00:52:06.519 --> 00:52:09.360
if the Bible, oh never mind, we can go into

855
00:52:09.360 --> 00:52:11.400
all kinds of directions with that. All right, but let's

856
00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:14.639
let's let's see, let's see if he wraps this up,

857
00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:19.000
and then we'll yeah, well you're gonna almost have to

858
00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:21.760
stop and do another part to get to the actual rules.

859
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:25.000
But this just gets getting, it gets getting more and more,

860
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:27.000
just way off topic here, all right.

861
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:33.840
See, that's what that's what the devil is all about,

862
00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:38.239
and what it looks like that abomination, bit of desolation,

863
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:40.480
and that's what that thing is all about. It's it's

864
00:52:41.159 --> 00:52:48.760
it's cannibalism. You want to hear the figurative part. There's

865
00:52:48.760 --> 00:52:54.280
a group of people from Rome that do that every Sunday.

866
00:52:54.920 --> 00:52:59.760
H that's what they teach. I don't believe they're eating

867
00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:02.599
a little body of Jesus, but that's what they say.

868
00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:06.440
In fact, they say, if you don't believe that, you're

869
00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:12.320
damned that they drink in the little blood and eating

870
00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:16.639
the literal body of Jesus for their salvation. That priest

871
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:18.760
stands up and says any meani mighty more or whatever

872
00:53:18.760 --> 00:53:24.400
he says. In Latin, they call it trans something substance.

873
00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:26.639
Yeah, whatever that long word is.

874
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:31.159
And what it means is he's turning that cup of

875
00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:35.119
wine into literal blood and the people drink it. He's

876
00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:39.039
turning the wafer into literal body and you digest it

877
00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:43.360
in your system.

878
00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:44.800
So there is a generation.

879
00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:52.119
Now, I didn't have funny and proverbs. When it talks

880
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:57.719
about eating flesh, it's literal Psalm fourteen. When it talks

881
00:53:57.760 --> 00:54:01.360
about eating, it's literal Isaiah six. When it talks about

882
00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:07.159
eating literal Mica three. When it talks about eating literal

883
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:09.639
when Jesus says, unless you eat my flesh and drink

884
00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:15.880
my blood all of a sudden, now that's metaphorical. See,

885
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:19.639
that's the figurative part this. All of these verses are literal,

886
00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:21.920
but that's metaphorical.

887
00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:25.599
You see.

888
00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:29.519
You see why nobody can agree on anything in the Bible.

889
00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:34.119
You see, Hey, he says those verses are metaphorical, where

890
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:36.320
Roman Catholicism would say, wait, wait, wait, we think we

891
00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:38.760
have to take this more literal. Right, it says eat

892
00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:41.320
my flesh, drink my blood. That's what it says, right,

893
00:54:41.519 --> 00:54:43.679
and we no, no, no, that's metaphorical. Then he goes

894
00:54:43.719 --> 00:54:45.800
over here to proverbs where most people would say these

895
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:48.960
are metaphorical, and he's like, no, that's literal. There's gonna

896
00:54:48.960 --> 00:54:56.119
be people who literally are eating people. This is why

897
00:54:56.519 --> 00:55:00.639
Biblical interpretation, in many cases it's just literally a free

898
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:04.519
for all. It's just anarchy. Everyone can just anyone can

899
00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:07.159
make it say whatever they want whenever they want. You

900
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:10.159
want to make it metaphorical, you can make it metaphorical.

901
00:55:10.199 --> 00:55:12.320
You want to make it literal, you can make it literal,

902
00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:14.760
and then everyone does what they want in their own eyes.

903
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:17.719
It's just total complete and utter anarchy. And if you

904
00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:20.199
don't believe, just the more sermons you listen to, the

905
00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:23.400
more you see this, the more you read, the more

906
00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:25.599
Christian books you read, the more commentaries you read, the

907
00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:27.559
more sermons you listen to the more at some point

908
00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:29.559
you're just like, you know what, you can just say

909
00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:32.800
whatever you want and someone's going to criticize you. Of

910
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:34.800
course they're going to tell you you're wrong. But who

911
00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:36.679
cares if they tell you you're wrong? Right? Who are

912
00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:39.239
they to tell me they're wrong? There's go through two

913
00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:42.159
thousand years of church history. There's not an interpretation that

914
00:55:42.199 --> 00:55:45.320
you can think of that hasn't been suggested. It's out there,

915
00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:48.599
so you can tell me I'm wrong. So what so

916
00:55:48.639 --> 00:55:51.000
what they're five thout? There's there's a million people will

917
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:53.719
tell you you're wrong. Everyone thinks you're right, you're right,

918
00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:57.519
you're wrong, you're wrong. It's just it's just uttered complete,

919
00:55:57.559 --> 00:56:07.039
total anarchy. But it's just funny. He's gonna condemn and

920
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:11.480
mock Roman Catholicism because he doesn't like their interpretation. See,

921
00:56:11.599 --> 00:56:13.679
they take where Jesu says, you must eat my body

922
00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:16.400
and drink you drink my blood, and eat my flesh

923
00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:18.239
or you have no part of me. Oh no, no,

924
00:56:18.239 --> 00:56:22.400
no no, that's metaphorical. And he mocks them. He mocks

925
00:56:22.440 --> 00:56:27.000
them any mini miney mode, mocking the Latin phrase, just mocking.

926
00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:30.519
So he's gonna mock and make fun of people who

927
00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:33.639
say this passage is literal. Well, then he goes and

928
00:56:33.679 --> 00:56:36.039
look at all these other passages where everyone would say

929
00:56:36.039 --> 00:56:41.679
they're metaphorical, and he says they're literal. How do you?

930
00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:49.119
And then he completely misrepresents Satanism, saying that Halloween's the

931
00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:52.599
most holy day, which is just not true. It's birthday.

932
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:54.679
I mean literally, he's right here in the Satanic Bible

933
00:56:57.039 --> 00:57:00.199
puts forth some of the same Satanic propaganda or but

934
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:03.880
anti Satanism propaganda that's been put forth forever that even

935
00:57:03.920 --> 00:57:04.679
Satanist mock.

936
00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:15.559
Literally, they are gonna come and they're gonna eat poor folks,

937
00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:18.159
and it's because they refuse the mark of the base

938
00:57:18.239 --> 00:57:21.039
that they're poor. And it looks like they're beheaded at

939
00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:25.400
an altar as part of a worship service, because what

940
00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:28.519
the devil wolves is worship. Strange way to get worshiped,

941
00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:35.440
man't it? Look at the next verse Proverbs thirty.

942
00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:39.199
Okay, we'll get what's That's where we're gonna stop. Now.

943
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:42.639
What we need to do. What we need to do,

944
00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:45.039
ladies and gentlemen, is I have here in front of

945
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:54.559
me one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, have seven

946
00:57:55.360 --> 00:58:01.840
basic we'll call them kind of an outline for determining

947
00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:07.159
when the Bibles using metaphor or versus literal language. Since

948
00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:08.960
we have all about just like two minutes, I'll just

949
00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:10.800
go through these quickly just so that you can write

950
00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:12.960
these down, and we're gonna have to spend some more

951
00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:15.639
time going through this, all right. Obviously, the first thing

952
00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:17.360
you have to do is you've got to understand the

953
00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:21.400
genre of the passage. Whatever passage you're reading, what genre,

954
00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:26.440
what literary genre is that? For example, Psalms, Proverbs, Song

955
00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:29.480
of Solomon tends to use metaphorical and symbolic language. Why

956
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:35.400
what genre is it? Poetry? Hmmm, it's using poetry, and

957
00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:38.519
poetry uses metaphor, so that should at least give you pause.

958
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:41.480
Wait a minute. The first passage was in Proverbs, the

959
00:58:41.519 --> 00:58:46.920
second one was in Psalms. Hmm, that's poetry. They poetry

960
00:58:47.320 --> 00:58:52.400
uses metaphor throughout Proverbs. Throughout Psalms, metaphor is used. So

961
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:59.360
immediately that would give me pause. Prophetic literature Isaiah, Jeremiah,

962
00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:03.599
revel or just a few uses vivid imagery and metaphors

963
00:59:03.639 --> 00:59:06.119
to convey spiritual truths. Where was the next passage? He

964
00:59:06.199 --> 00:59:11.000
went to Isaiah six and Micah. The minor prophets, Are

965
00:59:11.039 --> 00:59:16.239
they not prophetic? Hmm? So the two literary genres, poetry

966
00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:20.079
and prophecy are util and he never bothered to say, wait,

967
00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:23.679
the literary genre here could make an argument that this

968
00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:31.519
is a metaphor. Historical narratives Genesis Exodus acts generally describe

969
00:59:31.559 --> 00:59:34.960
literal events, but still may include figurative speech or literary

970
00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:38.159
devices within the narrative. So even within a historical narrative,

971
00:59:38.199 --> 00:59:42.719
you could have figurative speech. Wisdom literature, job and Ecclesiastes

972
00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:46.800
frequently uses metaphor and comparisons to express deeper truths about

973
00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:48.840
life and God. So the first thing you have to do,

974
00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:51.280
you've got to understand the genre. Let me see it

975
00:59:51.320 --> 00:59:53.079
this way, I will say, I will see it this way.

976
00:59:53.199 --> 00:59:57.760
You have to identify the literary type, the literary genre. Now,

977
00:59:57.800 --> 00:59:59.960
once you you've got a passage of scripture, what's the

978
01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:07.639
literary genre? Now? Is this literary genre known for metaphor. Yes, Okay,

979
01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:10.159
Now I'm not saying that means it's metaphor. I'm not

980
01:00:10.199 --> 01:00:12.400
saying that that means you don't take it literal. I'm

981
01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:16.000
saying that that means, HMW, what do I do here?

982
01:00:17.320 --> 01:00:19.960
What do I look for here? What do I do?

983
01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:25.079
That's at least at least gets you started right? That

984
01:00:25.159 --> 01:00:29.599
at least gets you started. Another thing. As you consider

985
01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:34.199
immediate context, what are the adjacent versus, say, examine the

986
01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:37.360
verses around the passage. If the surrounding texas clearly symbolic

987
01:00:37.480 --> 01:00:41.320
or figurative, the passage in question is likely metaphorical.

988
01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:41.880
Well, go to.

989
01:00:43.880 --> 01:00:48.199
Proverbs chapter thirty. Look at the very verse verse Proverbs

990
01:00:48.280 --> 01:00:51.360
chapter thirty, verse twelve. There is a generation that are

991
01:00:51.400 --> 01:00:54.000
pure in their own eyes, and yet is not washed

992
01:00:54.039 --> 01:00:58.400
from their filthiness. Now obviously washed from your filthiness. It's

993
01:00:58.400 --> 01:01:00.559
got to be somewhat of a metaphor. You don't wash

994
01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:03.559
yourself to get rid of your filthiness. There's I think

995
01:01:03.559 --> 01:01:06.000
a little bit of a metaphor there. There's a generation. Oh,

996
01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:11.480
how lofty are their eyes? And their eyelids are lifted up? Well,

997
01:01:11.639 --> 01:01:14.599
the eyes and eyelids. It's not talking about Oh, your

998
01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:17.519
eye and your eyelid is lifted up. That's symbolic or

999
01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:21.199
metaphorical for what pride? Right, So then you come to

1000
01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:24.039
the next verse. There is a generation whose teeth are

1001
01:01:24.159 --> 01:01:28.519
as swords, clearly using a metaphor, and their jaw teeth

1002
01:01:28.599 --> 01:01:32.440
as knives, clearly using a metaphor to devour the poor

1003
01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:37.119
from off the earth. Clearly it's a metaphor. And how

1004
01:01:37.199 --> 01:01:39.079
they're going to treat the poor? I think. I think

1005
01:01:39.119 --> 01:01:44.000
the verses before seem to establish some metaphorical language is

1006
01:01:44.039 --> 01:01:46.559
being used, or at least we should say this based

1007
01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:50.320
off the immediate context. It seems to imply that this

1008
01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:53.760
could be metaphorical, right, I think that that's fair.

1009
01:01:54.199 --> 01:01:54.440
Right.

1010
01:01:54.519 --> 01:01:58.039
So Number one we look at we identify the literary genre.

1011
01:01:58.199 --> 01:02:01.760
Number two, we look at the immediate context, all right,

1012
01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:04.119
and what do we look for in the immediate context

1013
01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:07.079
the adjacent verses which we just did. The subject of

1014
01:02:07.079 --> 01:02:10.199
the passage is the writer addressing a concept such as

1015
01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:13.599
God's power or human sinfulness that is difficult to depict literally.

1016
01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:16.960
If so, metaphorical language may be employed to help explain

1017
01:02:17.039 --> 01:02:23.039
complex ideas. So we just look at the context. Number three,

1018
01:02:23.159 --> 01:02:26.920
we evaluate the nature of the statement and possibility of

1019
01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:29.920
literal interpretation. If a literal reading leads to an absurd

1020
01:02:30.039 --> 01:02:33.679
or impossible scenario Jesus is the door, it is more

1021
01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:37.559
likely to be metaphorical. Well, we're going to eat the poor.

1022
01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:42.000
What is the exact verse, devour the poor from off

1023
01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:44.639
the earth. There's not going to be any poor people left.

1024
01:02:44.719 --> 01:02:47.119
All the poor people are going to be devoured. That

1025
01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:50.760
seems a little absurd to take it that way, correct,

1026
01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:53.159
I think that that's saying that the poor people are

1027
01:02:53.159 --> 01:02:56.119
going to be horribly treated, right, I think, I mean,

1028
01:02:56.159 --> 01:02:58.639
I think we would have to at least consider that, right.

1029
01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:03.559
Figure of speech indicators look for words that suggest a

1030
01:03:03.599 --> 01:03:07.280
comparison or figure of speech, such as like as or

1031
01:03:07.559 --> 01:03:11.760
is like. These often signify metaphors or similes. Well, look

1032
01:03:11.800 --> 01:03:14.159
what we have. There is a generation whose teeth are

1033
01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:18.639
as swords, they're jaws, teeth as knives. So now, so

1034
01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:21.320
all of the clues that you typically would find and

1035
01:03:21.400 --> 01:03:25.039
a basic hermeneutical instruction on how to interpret the Bible,

1036
01:03:26.159 --> 01:03:28.559
they're giving you that this is all yelling and screaming

1037
01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:36.519
simile metaphor figurative language. All right, So there's so number one,

1038
01:03:36.639 --> 01:03:40.639
we have understand the genre. Number two, we have considered

1039
01:03:40.679 --> 01:03:43.519
the immediate context. Number three, evaluate the nature of the

1040
01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:47.239
statement right and possibility of literal interpretation that kind of

1041
01:03:47.239 --> 01:03:50.519
thing figurative speech indicators. How about examine the use of

1042
01:03:50.559 --> 01:03:56.480
common Biblical metaphors recurrent themes. Certain metaphors are used consistently

1043
01:03:56.519 --> 01:04:01.320
throughout the Bible. Light representing holiness, Shepherd representing life. Identifying

1044
01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:05.000
these patterns helps determine if a passage uses a familiar metaphor.

1045
01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:08.719
A familiar metaphor, Well, he just demonstrated that this is

1046
01:04:08.719 --> 01:04:12.320
somewhat of a familiar metaphor used in numerous places in

1047
01:04:12.320 --> 01:04:16.760
his mind. These other verses proved that it was literal.

1048
01:04:17.760 --> 01:04:19.760
It could be argued that all of these verses would

1049
01:04:19.760 --> 01:04:25.920
show that this was a common metaphor. Cultural idioms. Many

1050
01:04:25.960 --> 01:04:30.000
metaphors reflect the cultural context of the time. Agricultural imagery.

1051
01:04:30.079 --> 01:04:34.719
Understanding ancient cultural references help in identifying a metaphorical language. Now,

1052
01:04:34.880 --> 01:04:37.960
is this a cultural idiom where you talk about eating

1053
01:04:38.039 --> 01:04:41.039
the poor, eating people? Is that a cultural idiom? I

1054
01:04:41.079 --> 01:04:43.760
don't know at this point. I cannot be dogmatic about that,

1055
01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:51.519
but it would be something we would have to look for. Yeah,

1056
01:04:51.559 --> 01:04:53.599
I'll just stop there. Two. I got more here. I

1057
01:04:53.639 --> 01:04:56.280
got more here that we could get into. But just

1058
01:04:56.440 --> 01:04:57.800
I want you, I want you to see if we

1059
01:04:57.880 --> 01:05:01.199
just start looking at the basic principles, we immediately are like,

1060
01:05:01.239 --> 01:05:05.719
wait a minute, this seems to have all the classic

1061
01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:11.119
marks of metaphorical language. I'm not saying it is. Look,

1062
01:05:11.159 --> 01:05:14.280
I'm still allowing for it to be possibly taking literal someway. Now,

1063
01:05:14.440 --> 01:05:17.519
my issue would be he went to Matthew twenty four

1064
01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:20.360
applied that to the future. When Matthew twenty four primarily

1065
01:05:20.440 --> 01:05:23.599
is about seventy eight. That's a problem. He went to

1066
01:05:23.639 --> 01:05:26.199
that passage in Revelation and immediately turned it into a

1067
01:05:26.239 --> 01:05:28.920
religious ceremony where people's heads are chopped off and then

1068
01:05:28.920 --> 01:05:31.199
you drink the blood and you eat the body. That

1069
01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:33.960
was reading a lot into the text. Not only that,

1070
01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:38.679
he's taking these other passages and proverbs Isaiah, Sam and

1071
01:05:38.760 --> 01:05:41.480
Mica and saying that it's prophetic about something that's going

1072
01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:43.679
to happen in the tribulation period. I don't think you

1073
01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:46.039
can take any of those passages to be pointing to

1074
01:05:46.039 --> 01:05:48.920
anything happening in the tribulation period. There's nothing in these

1075
01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:52.119
passages that would saying it's going to happen in the tribulation.

1076
01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:56.079
These all have clear historical context. So already that seems

1077
01:05:56.079 --> 01:06:00.159
to be already we're having problems. And then to call

1078
01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:06.400
into question someone's accuracy. He completely misrepresented basic facts about

1079
01:06:06.519 --> 01:06:16.559
basic Satanism. All right, we'll I have to stop there.

1080
01:06:17.239 --> 01:06:25.519
Sixty eight sixty six minutes. Yeah, I got pages of

1081
01:06:25.559 --> 01:06:28.199
notes here, pages I've got, I got it, I've got

1082
01:06:28.199 --> 01:06:33.679
I also have literally ten specific rules. Right, so we

1083
01:06:33.719 --> 01:06:35.599
have kind of the basic principles. Then we're gonna break

1084
01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:37.320
it down into specific rules. I got a lot of

1085
01:06:37.320 --> 01:06:41.400
information here, and uh, well, well, obviously we're gonna have

1086
01:06:41.400 --> 01:06:43.559
to do a part three. We're gonna have to do

1087
01:06:43.599 --> 01:06:48.000
a part three. Man, I just I've got all of

1088
01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:52.039
my notes on that. There is a generation. I got

1089
01:06:52.039 --> 01:06:53.679
all my notes. I got that entire I got it.

1090
01:06:53.719 --> 01:06:55.079
The proverbs thirty.

1091
01:06:56.760 --> 01:06:57.239
What is it?

1092
01:06:57.519 --> 01:06:59.639
Eleven through seventeen? Is that what it is? Let me

1093
01:06:59.639 --> 01:07:02.000
make sure here, we've looked at so many passages here.

1094
01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:07.760
I don't want to give you wrong information. I have, Yeah,

1095
01:07:07.760 --> 01:07:10.679
eleven through seventeen, I have an entire outline for it.

1096
01:07:10.679 --> 01:07:12.840
I haven't broken down. I have an exegesis of it.

1097
01:07:13.159 --> 01:07:16.280
I have so much, and we didn't get to any

1098
01:07:16.360 --> 01:07:18.039
of that. We didn't get to any of that because

1099
01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:22.679
it turned into this who would have thought? So here's

1100
01:07:22.719 --> 01:07:26.639
the key. Are Christians ever going to agree? Obviously not

1101
01:07:27.599 --> 01:07:30.760
on anything, but I believe there has to be basic

1102
01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:34.920
hermeneutical rules that govern what we do. And you can

1103
01:07:35.039 --> 01:07:39.840
just see he condemned Catholics for taking a passage literally. Well,

1104
01:07:39.880 --> 01:07:42.960
he's running to another passage and he's taking it literal,

1105
01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:46.199
so he's making an argument for the literal reading. But

1106
01:07:46.239 --> 01:07:48.639
then he condemns them for their literal reading. Well, why

1107
01:07:48.719 --> 01:07:51.719
is his literal reading right and they're literal reading wrong?

1108
01:07:52.519 --> 01:07:54.559
And who gets to determine who's right and who's wrong?

1109
01:07:56.960 --> 01:08:02.079
When you offer an interpretation? Just the Bible gop beep

1110
01:08:02.119 --> 01:08:04.880
warning you that it's wrong? Or does it go ding?

1111
01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:08.280
You got it right? Who get you? We get to

1112
01:08:08.320 --> 01:08:10.840
determine if we're right, We get to determine if we're wrong.

1113
01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:14.519
We do who say no? The Bible does no? Multiple

1114
01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:27.000
people using the same Bible coming to different conclusions. All right,

1115
01:08:28.239 --> 01:08:33.960
Well that was fine, Thank you for listening. Now your

1116
01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:36.279
free class. The bell rings?

1117
01:08:36.520 --> 01:08:36.640
Right?

1118
01:08:36.720 --> 01:08:38.199
Do I have a bell? Do I have a bell? Sound?

1119
01:08:38.239 --> 01:08:39.600
Do I have a bell sound. I think I have

1120
01:08:39.640 --> 01:08:46.479
a bell sound. Here we go. There you go. Classes

1121
01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:49.560
over the weekend is here. Now you can run out going. Wow,

1122
01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:54.319
that was some crazy stuff. That was crazy stuff. We

1123
01:08:54.359 --> 01:08:57.760
talked about chopping up bodies and chopping off heads, drinking blood,

1124
01:08:58.279 --> 01:09:01.960
eating flesh. What a class that was today? He said,

1125
01:09:01.960 --> 01:09:04.399
what what what school do you go to? Oh? I

1126
01:09:04.479 --> 01:09:06.600
go to the Bible College in the seminary and that

1127
01:09:06.640 --> 01:09:08.760
was my hermeneutics class. All right, well, there you go.

1128
01:09:09.720 --> 01:09:11.680
You don't need a you don't need a horror movie tonight.

1129
01:09:12.159 --> 01:09:15.960
You've got to well you can have a good discussion

1130
01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:21.680
about metaphor versus literal and uh, well you can let

1131
01:09:21.680 --> 01:09:24.560
me know what you think. Everyone, have a great afternoon,

1132
01:09:25.319 --> 01:09:29.560
a great evening, and a great weekend, and well, God

1133
01:09:29.600 --> 01:09:31.720
bless