Sept. 19, 2024

King Saul and Antichrist

King Saul and Antichrist

An attempt to compare and contrast King Saul and Antichrist

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An attempt to compare and contrast King Saul and Antichrist

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is

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the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central. Good morning, Good morning,

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Good morning everyone. It is Thursday, September the nineteenth, twenty

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twenty four. It is currently eleven twelve am Central Time,

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and I am coming to you live from the Theology

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Central studio located right here in Abilene, Texas. Now, if

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you've been listening for any length of time, you know

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that when I do sermon reviews that sometimes many times,

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most of the time, sometimes I guess may not be

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completely accurate. I think there are definitely times, let's say

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it that way, there are definitely times where the review

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just goes all wrong. It just it just turns into

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I mean, there's no nice way of saying it turns

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into a dumpster fire. It just turns into an absolute disaster.

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It goes off the rails, and it just kind of

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like what happened, right, Because the original idea, Oh, let's

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I want to listen to a sermon, Let's just choose

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a random one, let's review it in real time, Let's

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see what happens. Because again I don't listen to it first.

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So sometimes when I you know, by the time I'm

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done with the sermon review, I'm like, why, why why

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do I do this? How messed up can things get?

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And sometimes it just feels like it becomes way too negative.

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And I don't like when it gets way too negative.

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So you know that I have, well kind of there's

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a typical thing I do when I feel that it

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goes negative. I try my best to say, Okay, that happened.

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There's nothing I can do about it. Because because I

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review the sermons randomly, so there was no agenda, I

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didn't know what was going to happen. So everyone got

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to experience it in real time. Now what can I do?

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Do I just walk away? Do I just say, well,

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that was a train wreck, that was a dumpster fire,

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just walk away and let the fire burn itself out

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or let someone come put the fire out? Like, do

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I just walk away? Or do I go okay, okay, okay.

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Let's now try to take something from it and turn

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it into something positive. Let's try to do something with

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it so that we can expand on a text of scripture,

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explore something philologically, doctrinately, exegetically, and let's try to do

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something positive with it. Well, if you were listening yesterday. Oh,

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I broadcasted for a long time. Yesterday. There were a

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number of hours of broadcast. Yesterday. We were reviewing a

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message entitled Restoration of Israel Part one. Restoration of Israel

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Part one. And I obviously when I started the review,

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I had forgotten. I I mean, because I had listened

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to them before. But you know, I listen to a

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lot of things, so sometimes you just don't immediately go wait, wait, wait, wait,

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wait wait, that's that program that's basically a radio program

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and they have you know, you know, ten fifteen minute

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music interlude, they have, you know, ten fifteen minute of

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prayer request Like I should have. That should have dawned

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on me, but I completely forgot. So obviously the review

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kind of went off thrills, right, and it's not even

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anything that they had done. I mean, that's there's their

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radio program. I just wasn't ready in the middle of

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the review to go, oh wait, guys, here's like a

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fifteen minute music music musical interlude. Wait a minute, and

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it's like that. So I messed up the flow. It

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messed up everything. Also, I had no idea that they

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were just gonna drag out kind of like their intro

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They're just kind of like, took forever. Tonight we will

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be talking about the restoration of Israel, and just keep

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they kept hyping it and teasing it, and radio you'll

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call that a tease. They keep throwing out the teas

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and it just kept like okay, okay, okay. So we

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basically reviewed someone constantly teasing what they were going to do.

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And then by the time we actually got to them

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starting to talk about the restoration of Israel, we'd already

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I had already been broadcasting well over an hour and

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it was like, oh man, this has turned into a disaster.

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But before that first hour ended, we already knew it

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was already a sign that things were about to get

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very weird, because we realized that they were utilizing a

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booklet called the Restoration of Israel written by Peter Ruckman,

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and I was like, oh no, no, no, no, no, no,

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that can't be you know, the Ruckman Nights, ruckmanism. It

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can't be Peter Ruckman, all right, And next it's just

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say KJV only that would be that would be the

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biggest understatement ever. I mean, we could get into all

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the doctrine of Peter Ruckman and it's just it's it's

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a bizarre journey, right. I mean, he he was very

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he was prominent in some circles of the independent fundamental

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Baptist world. But there were many within the independent Baptist

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world who absolutely condemned Peter Ruckman and said absolutely not.

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So to say controversial would be an understatement, right. So

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as soon as I heard that, I'm like, oh no,

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we are in trouble, right. And they made and there

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was a lot of statements made that we could discuss,

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but two statements that I'm for this episode that I

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want to focus on. They made two statements. One statement

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was that Solomon and the Old Testament represents Jesus, and

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I'm like, whoa, wait what, Okay, so we will explore that.

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The other one was that Saul King Saul in the

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Old Testament represents the Anti Christ. And I was like, okay,

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now as we continued our review, so just keep that

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in mind. Those were two statements. Or Solomon represents Jesus,

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Saul represents Antichrist. Keep that in mind or right. So

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we heard that and I acknowledged both of those statements

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and was kind of like, wait what, And I said

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that we need to do something with the Saul Anti

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Christ one rack. I kind of made a little statement

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there maybe we need to work on that. I told

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all of you that you could you take a piece

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of paper divided in have King Saul on one side,

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the Anti Christ on the other, and then see if

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you can find verses that would you know, connect the

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two or or something we could do with it. Right,

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So I kind of gave you that challenge, but we

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moved on. We just moved on because I mean, it's

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the middle of a sermon. Review so the first one

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ended it was a disaster. It was a train wreck.

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It was it was just a waste of time from

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a review perspective, and that's my own fault. But the

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only way to fix that again would be I listened

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to what I review first. And I don't want to

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do that because then the reviews come across as having

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an agenda, being rehearsed, being overly produced, instead of the

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feeling I want to create. Hey guys, I'm in my studio.

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It's time for me to listen to a sermon. Come

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join me. Let's listen to it in real time. We

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just never know what we're going to get, all right,

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So the only way to fix it is to turn

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this into something I don't want it to turn into,

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because then people can accuse me of, oh, you just

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picked bad sermons so you can look good. No. I

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pick random sermons so that I can listen to sermons.

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I can't help it if sometimes when the sermons I

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listen to I have strong disagreements with. But it wasn't

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even so much about disagreement. And the first one, right,

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the first one really wasn't so much about disagreeing. It

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was just kind of like, Wow, that was a long

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time to finally get to the topic. So then I

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was like, Okay, I've got to get back to the topic.

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So I decided let's do part two, and so we

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picked up where we left off. They had gone to

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a basically a commercial break. They come back in from

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their commercial break and boom we start the review and

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everything is going going pretty good. Throat. They make some

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They make a couple of references at the end of

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part one they made are part one of our review.

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They made a statement about Matthew twenty four that I

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disagreed with, but we really everything was still kind of

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moving forward, all right, talking about the restoration of Israel.

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They quote some other verses. Okay, they made some kind

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of comments about the Holocaust and a verse in Isaiah

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that kind of made me very uncomfortable. All right, still though,

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trying to maintain a positive outlook, everything is going great.

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Then they get to Isaiah chapter nine, verse six, and

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then they basically make this statement that Jesus is the Father,

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the Son, and the Holy Spirit. And I'm like, wait,

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what in the world is going on? That is straight modalism, right,

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that's that's a heretical view of the Godhead. That's not trinitarianism. Look,

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there's no way. So we backed it up, we listened

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to it again, started doing some work, and we took

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it apart and they they have a blend. So we

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found their statement of faith and we found that their

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their statement of faith is just a convoluted mess. It

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utilizes some what appears to be trinitarian language, but at

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the same time modalism is all over it. So it's

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a it's it's by if I want to just be nice,

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it's a misleading, confusing, discombobulated understanding of the Godhead. That's

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to be nice. If I want to be probably maybe

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a little bit more blunt, and you may just straight

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up say it's heretical and it's modalism. Now, the fact

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that they mentioned Peter Ruckman, all of a sudden, I realized,

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wait a minute, their idea of the Godhead really sounds

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like Peter Ruckman. So is this like a full blown

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Ruckman Night podcast? So it was crazy. So then so

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by the time we finished part two, I was just

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kind of like, wow, I mean, I love look on

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one hand, see this on one hand, it proves my theory.

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My theory is just hey, we just listened to random

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sermons and we just see wherever it takes us. And

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there's a little bit of fun in that. It can be.

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It can be tedious at times, it can be it

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can take us a long time. But who would have

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thought that a program about the restoration of Israel would

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have turned into a very important discussion about the Godhead

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and drawing a clear distinction between modalism and trinitarianism. That

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if we end up there, we've done something. And the

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reason why that's so important is, I hate to say it,

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just go listen to Christians talk about the Trinity. Just

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just walk around your church and get people to talk

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about the Trinity. Almost inevitably they give you some kind

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of modalistic understanding. Because churches do very most churches do

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a very poor job and explaining what modalism was, what

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modalism is, and condemning it. Churches do a very bad

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job of explaining the history of one is Pentecostalism and

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condemning that understanding of the Godhead. We must at the

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church has to do a better job of helping people

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understand what the Trinity is and what it isn't and don't.

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And I've told the story before. When I the I mean,

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I had been a pastor what it feels like seventy

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two hours. I think it was the first Sunday night service,

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and I asked everyone in the congregation to give me

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a definition of the Trinity. By the time that service

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was over, I got called. I got in the car

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and I was driving home, and I basically was like

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I could have never dreamed that I would become the

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pastor of a church filled with absolute, complete heretics, because

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every single person in the church gave me a modalistic

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definition of the Trinity. One God manifest himself in three

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different ways. I'm like, that is, that's not the Trinity.

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That's herod, that's you're all heretics. Okay, well I don't

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know what to say. Well, what do you say to

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your congregation who all give you, every single one gives

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you a fraudulent definition of the Trinity? What do you do?

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And and I mean wow. So so that we we've

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already dealt with that, we dealt with the trinitarian part.

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Now we can go back and do some work on

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Peter Ruckman. But what I want to do for this

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episode is I want to just set aside the review

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and I want to go back and maybe we'll do

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two episodes on this, maybe we'll do three, who knows.

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But I want to go back to those statements that

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I told you about just a little while ago. Those

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two statements are Solomon is a picture or represents Jesus

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in the Old Testament, and King Saul represents or is

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a picture of the Antichrist in the Old Testament. So

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the Solomon one is already a little just kind of

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like wait what. So I need to do a little

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research to see how common that view is. But it's

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hard for me to say that a man who murdered people,

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and we could we could argue on the justification of

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what he did. But this man who only killed people,

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this man became a serial adulterer, a serial polygamist, and

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an idolator. And that's the man that pictures Jesus in

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the Old Testament. I mean, do we just look for

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some good things and say, boom, he pictures Jesus. I'm

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a little concerned with that, all right, So we'll get

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to that one. That one was just a little more

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confusing to me. Maybe it's a common belief, but we'll

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we'll circle back to that. The one I think is

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much we can just immediately jump into is King Saul

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and the Antichrist. That King Saul is a picture of

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the Antichrist. If you want to understand or you want

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to get a better understanding of the Antichrist in a sense,

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his character, attitudes, actions, attributes, If you want to see

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it being played out in real time and history, you

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go look at King Saul. That's kind of the argument

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that was made. Now they did not expand on it,

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and the and the sermon we were reviewing. They just

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again it was supposed to be about the restoration of Israel,

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and he was just throwing out things. At times you

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were like, wait, wait, wait what we're talking about the

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restoration of Israel and you just said what like the

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whole Solomon Jesus thing, Like wait, what are the messed

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up definite? The full blown heretical understanding of the Trinity.

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I mean, I don't know. It was so weird, Like

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I thought, we're talking about the restoration of Israel. But

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I said, okay, let's do a little bit of work.

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talk about King Saul and the anti Christ. What we're

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going to do is going to work through some possible similarities. Now,

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I am by no means being dogmatic about anything that's

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going to be given to you. This is more of

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just to hypotheses. This is me taking a statement, one

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statement in a sermon which they did not expand on, justify,

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or even explain. I'm going to take that phrase from

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the sermon because the sermon reviews were such a train wreck.

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I want to turn it into something positive. So we're

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going to take the phrase and then we're going to

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do our own work and we'll see. I want you

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to do your own work. I want you to. I

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want you to work on this right saw Antichrist saw

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Antichrist compare contrast. I want you to create your own

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little chart. Now, King Saul and the Antichrist, most would

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say are significant figures in biblical literature. I think that

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would be a fair way of describing them, all right,

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especially King Saul. Now I know Antichrist, you can get

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a lot of arguments because now you're getting into eschatology

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and nobody agrees on anything. At least with King Saul.

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King Saul. So who am I fooling? But it would

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be less disagreement about King Saul than there would be Antichrist.

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But we can say that they're both significant figures in

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biblical literature. I think that would be accurate. Now they

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obviously appear in different context. I think we can agree

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in there Saul, King Saul is the first king of Israel,

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and the Antichrist is a figure that basically demonstrates or

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shows ultimate opposition to Christ and Eschatology. Right, so King

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Saul is the first king of Israel, historical figure, right,

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real person, real first king and anti Christ. Of course,

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there's lots of ways, but we will describe the Antichrist

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as a figure of ultimate opposition to Christ and eschatology.

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There are interesting parallels and contrast between them and their kingdoms.

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of King Saul, we think of Antichrist. We think of

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the individuals. There's King sauw, there's Antichrist, the Antichrist. There

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are many Antichrists, but the Antichrist, right, all right, So

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we think of the Antichrist and we think of King Saul.

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So we think of two individuals. But we also have

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to consider King Saul's kingdom and the kingdom of Antichrist.

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So two individuals, two kingdoms. How do they compare and

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how do they contrast? All right, So let's just do

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what we can here, all right, Let's consider King Saw

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an Antichrist under the heading of divine appointment and authority.

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Divine appointment and authority. Now that one makes me a

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little okay. With King Saul, I can see divine appointment

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and I can see authority. He's the first king of Israel.

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God God, Israel wanted a king. He gave them a king,

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and that was King Saul. But do we see Antichrist

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in the same way. So divine appointment and authority. So,

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according to one source, King Sau was chosen and anointed

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by God as the first king of Israel. We see

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this in First Samuel chapter ten, verse one. Then Samuel

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took a vial of oil, poured it upon his head,

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kissed him, and said, it is not. Is it not?

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Because the Lord Hath anointed thee to be captain over

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his inheritance. That's Samuel anointing Saul as king and listened

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to what he says. Is it not because the Lord

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Hath anointed thee to be captain over his inheritance. He

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was appointed by God. He has authority. He was appointed

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by God. So King Saul was chosen and anointed by

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God as the first king of Israel. He was given

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authority over the people of God to lead them and

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to represent God's rule, even though the people's request for

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a king showed a lack of trust in God's direct rule. Now, remember,

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Saul becomes king if you go back to First Samuel

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chapter eight, verse seven. All right, well, actually go back

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to first King's chapter eight. Let's go to First Samuel.

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Did I say, first kings. First Samuel, chapter eight, verse

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And then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together

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and came to Samuel and said down to him, Behold,

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thou are old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways.

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Now make us a king to judge us like all

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the nations. All right. But the thing displeased Samuel when

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they said, give us a king to judge us. And

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Samuel prayed unto the Lord, and the Lord said into Samuel,

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hearken unto the voice of the people, and all that

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they say into THEE. For they have not rejected thee,

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but they have rejected me, that I should not reign

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over them. Saul is appointed by God and is given authority,

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But it happens in the context of the people rejecting

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God's authority and God being king. They reject God being king,

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and they want Saul all right. Just so, even though

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there's divine appointment and authority, That divine appointment and authority

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happens in the context of the people saying, we don't

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want God, we want a king like all the other nations.

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We want an earthly ruler. We don't want a spiritual

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ruler in whom we cannot see kind of concept. So

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how do would that fit with Antichrist? Well, the Antichrist,

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by contrast, is seen as a usurper of authority. He's

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empowered by Satan, seeking to oppose and replace christ rightful

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authority on earth. His rule is marked by rebellion against God,

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not divine appointment. So in this way, they're not there.

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because Saul becomes king because of the people's rejection of God. Well,

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the Antichrist seeks to take power by usurping that of

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power he opposes, and he wants to replace Christ's rightful

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authority on earth. But his rule is marked by rebellion

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against God, not divine appointment. So he's he's rebelling against God.

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Saul is put there by God, but he's put there

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by God in the context of the people rebel. So

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there's a do we draw a contrast there or do

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we see that as somewhat similar? There's definitely similar circumstances.

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do a little bit more work on that, right, I

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would have to think about that. But so Saul comes

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to power because of the people's rejection of God. The

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Antichrist tries to usurp authority, comes to power, and his

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his reign is all about is marked by rebellion against

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God and not divine appointment. But so Saul becomes king

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and life in the context of rebellion, and the Antichrist

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comes to power and his whole his whole concept is

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rebellion and usurping authority. All right, I get I think

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that's more of a contrast than saying they have these

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in common. So again, remember the original statement was that

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Saul's a picture of Antichrist. Well, in this particular case,

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he sert does he serve as a picture of Antichrist

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or does he serve as really kind of a there's

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a there's a difference, So I don't I don't want

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to force say. The thing is, when someone makes a

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comment like that, you don't want to just disregard it,

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but at the same time you want to try to

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work it through. So you're trying to be I'm trying

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to be fair here, I'm trying to see there is

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some similarity. So there's a part of me that wants

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to try to force it and say, see, Saul is

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a perfect picture, but there's another part of me says, well,

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Saul is divinely appointed. The Antichrist is seen as usurping authority.

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decide what you want to do with that. We may

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need to clean that one up a little bit, but

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we will see, all right, So number one, we'll call

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it divine appointment and authority. And I think that almost

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serves more as a contrast, right, maybe not necessarily the same.

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I don't know, you can see what you want to

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do with it. How about the response to God's authority? Now,

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let's compare in contrast King Saul and the Antichrist as

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it relates to response to God's authority. King Saul may

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have began his reign with a measure of humility and obedience,

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but Saul quickly fell into disobedience. He repeatedly defied God's commandments,

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such as offering sacrifices without waiting for Samuel. We read

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about that in First Samuel, Chapter thirteen, verses eight through fourteen,

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all right, First Samuel chapter thirteen, verses eight through fourteen.

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a reference. Saul begins with some measure of humility and obedience,

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but quickly he falls into disobedience. He repeatedly defied God's commandments,

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such as offering sacrif vices without waiting for Samuel, and

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he spared King Agag and the best of the Amalekite

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livestock against God's direct orders. That's for Samuel fifteen. His

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disobedience led to God's rejection of him as king. So

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Saul starts off maybe looking right, but then it's just disobey.

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He's offering sacrifices one he's not supposed to. He's not

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supposed to spare King Agag and the best of the

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Amalekite livestock against God's direct orders. And his disobedience leads

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to ultimately God rejecting him as king. Now, remember he

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only became king because the people rejected God in the

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first place. So in a roundabout way God, they rejected

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God as king. So God gives him a king that

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rejects God as king. So you want you want to

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reject me, and you want a king. Well, I'll give

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you a king that rejects me. It's almost a sense

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that way. Now, now, if we compare or contrast that

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to the Antichrist, the anti christ very nature is one

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of rebellion against God. He will exalt himself above all

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that is worshiped and claim to be God. Now, typically,

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now we could get into a whole We could get

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into a lot of discussions here, but we'll go with

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the typical passage that many would look at to prove this.

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Now I have my disagreements here. But Second Thessalonians, chapter two,

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verse four, Second Thessalonians chapter two, verse four, we read.

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If we start in Second Thessalonians two verse one. Now

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we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord

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Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, that

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you be not so soon shaken in mind or be troubled,

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neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter. As

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from us, as the day of Christ is at hand,

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let no man deceive you by any means. That the

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day shall not come except there come a falling away first,

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and that the man of sin be revealed, the son

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of tradition, who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that

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is called God, or that is worshiped, and so that

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he as God sideth in the Temple of God, showing

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himself that he is God. Now, Second Thessalonians two four,

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there's much debate about this. We've talked about this, and

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we said, well, wait a minute. First, when was Second

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Thessalonians written? Right, that's a good question. So let's do

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a little bit of research here and I'll try to

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show you here. Okay, So when was I'm going to

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ask ai? All right, all right? The Second Thessalonians is

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generally believed to be have written around fifty one to

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fifty two a D. Now, why is that important? Because

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is it possible that what's being discussed in Second Thessalonians

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chapter two is not anti Christ at the end with

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some rebuilt temple. Is it possible to Second Thessalonians is

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referring to someone who is going to go into the

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temple leading up to seventy a d and showing himself

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that he is God. And remember we went through some

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historical accounts of that very thing happening prior to seventy

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a D. So with Second Thessalonians pointing towards seventy a

457
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D and not towards the end. Well, now your eschatology

458
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is going to come into play, right, depending on which

459
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team you're in, You're going to read this based on

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your team's eschatology. That's why I can't stand eschatology being

461
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taught as a system, because what you're taught the system,

462
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and then people just proof texts the system. We'll see

463
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this verse supports the idea that I gave you. Well,

464
00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:02.160
of course, because you're reading the verse and light of

465
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the idea that they gave you, I will argue, do

466
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more research, do more exploring and studying of Second Thessalonians,

467
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chapter two, verses one through four, and just look and search.

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Is it possible that this has was fulfilled prior to

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seventy a D. All Right, I think I think that's

470
00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:27.759
very important to UH to consider. All Right, I think

471
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:31.880
I think that's very important to consider. But typically when

472
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it comes to response to God's authority, if you see

473
00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:39.240
Second Thessalonians two four as referring to anti Christ at

474
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the end, then the anti christ very nature is one

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00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:46.000
of rebellion against God. He will exalt himself above all

476
00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:48.119
that is worshiped, and will we claim to be God,

477
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:50.079
and this will be viewed as happening at the end.

478
00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:55.079
So King Saul ultimately rebelled, and Antichrist his entire nature

479
00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:58.720
was rebellion. And Saul was in many cases doing that

480
00:29:58.759 --> 00:30:01.960
which he was not even a lowed to do, offering sacrifices,

481
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making he basically in some ways kind of acted as

482
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if he was God. The entire reign of Antichrist is

483
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one of deception, false miracles, and blasphemy against the true God.

484
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And do we see something similar with King Saul? So

485
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.599
what do we have with King Saul? We have divine

486
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:30.039
appointment and authority, which is somewhat different than Antichrist. But

487
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:36.279
let's just remember King Saul is appointed in light of rebellion.

488
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The people rejected God. They wanted a king. God gave

489
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them a king divinely appointed them. He had authority, But

490
00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:46.440
he gave them a king that was ultimately going to

491
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reject God's authority and rebel against him. Where Antichrist, we

492
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:54.440
may not say, is divinely appointed, but he's in a

493
00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:57.759
surper of authority and he seeks to oppose and replace

494
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:01.000
Christ's rightful authority, and his rule is marked by rebellion.

495
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:03.640
Against God, not divine appointment, So there is somewhat of

496
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:08.519
a contrast, but it's still very similar in certain ways. Secondly,

497
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.720
so there's a divine appointment and authority. Second is response

498
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:14.960
to God's authority, and both King Saw and anti Christ

499
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:20.519
demonstrate full blown rebellion ultimately against God and a rejection

500
00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:29.039
of God's authority. Right, how about number three, it's King

501
00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:32.839
Sauw and Antichrist again comparing and contrasting. How about the

502
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:38.440
relationship with people or with relationship with the people to

503
00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:43.559
be more precise, For example, King Saul. Initially, King Sauw

504
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:48.039
won favor of the people through military victories and leadership,

505
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:51.079
so there was a point where the people were like

506
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:55.240
King Saul is great, King Saul is awesome. The people

507
00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:59.079
were kind of drawn to him and supported him. However,

508
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:03.079
as his disobedie and screw, so did his insecurity and paranoia,

509
00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:05.880
leading to unjust actions, such as his pursuit of David

510
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:08.440
out of jealousy. We read that in verse Samuel eighteen

511
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through nineteen his slaughter of the priest of Knob for

512
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Samuel twenty two. His kingdom eventually fell into chaos, with

513
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:20.000
the people's support shifting towards David. Now think about the Antichrist.

514
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:25.519
The Antichrist will garner significant global support through deception and

515
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:29.559
a promise of peace, most would argue, some will point

516
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:32.920
to Daniel nine twenty seven to support that. Remember you

517
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:35.920
get to that. Yeah, there's some things in Daniel that

518
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:38.279
can be hard to figure out, but okay. He will

519
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:42.039
be admired by many for his power and apparent success. However,

520
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:46.480
like Saul, his kingdom will be characterized by oppression, ultimately

521
00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:49.559
leading to destruction, and those who refuse to worship the

522
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:55.400
Antichrist will face severe persecution. Now what I think is

523
00:32:55.440 --> 00:33:01.920
interesting though, just this is not in my notes Saul.

524
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It gets the people's support, ultimately it begins to fall apart,

525
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:10.160
and he becomes more violent and doing these horrible things,

526
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:17.000
and ultimately he's going to be replaced by David. Right,

527
00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:22.359
And who's the ultimate fulfillment of the Davidic covenant that

528
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:25.200
someone will sit on the throne of David and rule forever.

529
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:28.799
Is that not Christ? Well Antichrist? At first the people

530
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:32.039
seem to love him, and then more violence and threats

531
00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:35.079
and all the things that happen, and ultimately the kingdom

532
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:38.599
of Antichrist will end and be replaced by the one

533
00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:42.880
that will sit on the throne of David. I think

534
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:45.319
that there is a similarity. I think there's an interesting

535
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:56.119
similarity there, right. So number one is divine appointment and authority.

536
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Number two response to God's authority. Number three relationship with

537
00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:01.880
the peace. Now number four I kind of already kind

538
00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:04.759
of gave a preview of this, but number four is

539
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:07.839
the end of their kingdoms. All right. I've already I

540
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:10.239
kind of just jumped the gun a little bit that

541
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:14.119
I threw in things that weren't in my notes at

542
00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:16.079
that point. But I think this one you'll kind of

543
00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:20.840
see now where I was headed. Saul's reign ended in

544
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:26.039
tragedy and personal destruction. After losing favor with God, Saul

545
00:34:26.119 --> 00:34:28.719
was consumed by jealousy and paranoia, leading him to a

546
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:31.199
downward spiral. His final act was falling on his own

547
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:34.519
sword during the battle with the Philistines First Samuel thirty

548
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:38.760
one four. His kingdom was eventually handed over to David,

549
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:41.519
God's chosen king. All right, So that's what I wanted

550
00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:45.960
you to see. Saul's kingdom ends with going to David,

551
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:51.440
now Antichrist. The antichrist reign will also end end defeat.

552
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:55.559
According to Revelation. Now you look at Revelation chapter nineteen.

553
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Some one comes with a sword, Saul dies with a sword.

554
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:05.039
Anti Christ's kingdom really is going to be taken down

555
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:09.440
by a sword, right, all right? The kingdom will be

556
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:11.400
destroyed at the second coming of Christ, who will be

557
00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:13.960
overthrown and cast him to the Lake of Fire, making

558
00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:17.519
the end of his rebellion and the establishment of Christ's

559
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:20.159
eternal kingdom. Now, like I said, I did not have

560
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:22.360
this in my notes, but just just we got to

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draw the connection. Saul's rain ends with David. God makes

562
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the covenant with David that someone will sit on his throne,

563
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and the anti Christ kingdom is it's taken out basically

564
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by a sword. Look at Revelation nineteen. And then who's

565
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:45.280
going to then sit on the throne of David Christ?

566
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Who who is the fulfillment of that dividic covenant? I mean,

567
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:53.719
the similarities there are too perfect. In that case, Saul

568
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:57.440
dies by a sword, the anti Christ kingdom is taken

569
00:35:57.440 --> 00:35:59.400
out by someone on a white horse with a sword.

570
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:03.559
He comes, takes out the kingdom and then sits on

571
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the throne of David. Saul was replaced by David. In

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a sense, Antichrist is taken out by the fulfillment of

573
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the Davidic covenant. So I think the end of their

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00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:24.760
kingdom very similar. All right, how about number five spiritual legacy,

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King Saul. Though Saul's reign ended in failure, he is

576
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often viewed with a degree of sympathy. He represents the

577
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tragic consequences of disobedience and the fallibility of human leadership,

578
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:40.960
but he also shows that even the chosen can fall.

579
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His story is a warning against pride and rebellion. Now,

580
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:47.039
I think some people see Saw in a more sympathetic light.

581
00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:49.199
I think some people don't see him so much in

582
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:51.960
a sympathetic light. I think you could say he was

583
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:57.000
even the chosen could fall. I think to me it

584
00:36:57.039 --> 00:37:00.239
feels like God said, oh, you want to reject me, Well,

585
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:02.719
let me give you a king that will reject me.

586
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:05.679
That God knew exactly what was going on, right, That's

587
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:09.880
my own feelings. Anti christ legacy is one of the

588
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:13.639
complete opposite opposition to God. He is the embodiment of

589
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:20.000
evil and rebellion, and eschatological terms, his actions represent the

590
00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:23.079
final and ultimate attempt to overthrow God's kingdom and his

591
00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:27.280
legacy is entirely negative. Some people see Saw more sympathetic.

592
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:33.800
Obviously nobody sees the anti Christ sympathetic. But both you

593
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:38.320
can try to compare and contrast their legacy. Saul obviously

594
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:42.719
just does very evil things and just becomes more and

595
00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:47.760
more rebellious and every anti God. In many cases he

596
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:50.800
almost begins to act as if he is the divine authority.

597
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:58.039
Where that's antichrist complete approach. So I don't know how

598
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:01.760
we compare a contrast that one, all right. How about

599
00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:08.079
the kingdom's spiritual nature. Saul's kingdom was a physical, earthly

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00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:10.559
kingdom meant to be a part of God's covenant plan

601
00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:14.719
for Israel. It was supposed to be a theocratic monarchy

602
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:20.199
under God's law, but Saul's failures distorted this purpose. All right.

603
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:22.760
I don't know if it was ever supposed to be

604
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:25.280
a part of God's covenant plan with Israel. I think

605
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:27.480
in a sense, Guy's like, oh, you want to reject me,

606
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:30.079
Well this is what you're going to get with earthly rulers.

607
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:33.400
You don't want to You don't want me ruling and

608
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:36.280
reigning over you. You want men. Well, when you get men,

609
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:40.880
you get failure, you get sin get So. I think

610
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:45.239
it was just to demonstrate that the sinfulness of man,

611
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:48.280
that man, even the best man you can pick, is

612
00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:50.320
going to be a failure and is never going to

613
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:55.400
obey God's law because man doesn't Now. The anti Christ

614
00:38:55.519 --> 00:39:01.039
kingdom will be characterized by spiritual deception and idolagy tree

615
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:03.800
marked by the forced worship of the anti Christ and

616
00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:06.800
his image. It will be a counterfeit kingdom that seeks

617
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:09.199
to mimic the power and glory of God's kingdom, but

618
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:14.119
is ultimately under Satanic influence. So do we compare and

619
00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:18.360
contrast the nature of the kingdom. Saul's kingdom was more fleshly.

620
00:39:18.760 --> 00:39:21.440
I guess the Antichrist the Antichrist kingdom is still going

621
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:25.079
to be fleshly. I guess with a counterfeit spirituality maybe,

622
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:33.119
But didn't Saul have kind of a counterfeit spirituality. Ah?

623
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:35.400
I don't know what to do. I don't know what

624
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:40.639
to do with that one, all right. Both Saul and

625
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:45.480
the Antichrist can be seen as tragic figures who fall

626
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:48.880
from a place of authority due to their opposition to

627
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:56.239
God's will. Both ultimately lead kingdoms that end in destruction.

628
00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:03.000
Saul's king begin with divine appointment, while the Antichrist is

629
00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:06.400
a figure of opposition to God from the outset. Saul's

630
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:09.760
disobedience led to his downfall, while the Antichrist in Tairain

631
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:15.599
is rooted in defiance and rebellion against God. Saul's kingdom

632
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:18.280
was an earthly kingdom of Israel, while the Antichrist is

633
00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:21.559
a global kingdom based on deception and opposition to the

634
00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:29.519
true Christ. So there is some key differences king Saul's

635
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:33.079
kingdom serves as a warning about the dangers of disobedience

636
00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:36.719
to God, while the anti Christ kingdom represents the final

637
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:40.920
culmination of rebellion against God's authority. Both figures illustrate the

638
00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:46.440
consequences of straying from God's will, but in different context

639
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:54.800
and with varying degrees of opposition. I would say this,

640
00:40:56.000 --> 00:41:01.880
it's probably wrong to say Saul represents the Antichrist. Is

641
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:05.440
a picture of the Antichrist. I think there are similarities.

642
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:10.760
To me, the most powerful similarity is that Saul Antichrist

643
00:41:11.239 --> 00:41:17.159
both have kingdoms, they both rebel and defy God's authority,

644
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:23.599
and they both end basically with the throne of David.

645
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:30.440
Saul ends with David by a sword Antichrist kingdom ends

646
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:35.440
with a sword by Christ who will sit and reign

647
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:40.239
on the throne of David. That I think is absolutely fascinating.

648
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:43.840
There's great similarities there. Now you may find more similarities

649
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:47.440
in that. That was we didn't get into each scripture.

650
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:50.320
We could have read scripture, we could have looked things up.

651
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:55.559
I will say this, whenever we get to the character

652
00:41:55.639 --> 00:42:00.159
of Antichrist, just be very careful. Like that second Thessalonian's passage,

653
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:05.079
everybody just immediately goes, oh, that's going to be another temple.

654
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:09.800
But it was written in the fifty a D or

655
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:13.599
in the fifties AD, right between fifty one fifty five

656
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:16.119
a D. Well, that means it could very much been

657
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:18.239
pointing to what was going to happen leading up to

658
00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:21.440
seventy a D. Because there were people who entered into

659
00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:26.159
the temple who basically started claiming divine authority. That happened

660
00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:31.000
prior to seventy a D. So whenever people say Antichrist,

661
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:32.920
you've got to be very careful. Even in like I

662
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:36.440
think first John that mentions Antichrist, that's referring to Gnostics

663
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:40.920
and Gnostic leaders. Then maybe the Antichrist we've sometimes got

664
00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:43.800
to be very careful when we look at this concept.

665
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:53.199
But there is some interesting comparison and contrast between these

666
00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:58.320
two biblical figures Saw and Antichrist. Now you may want

667
00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:00.000
to work on that. Clean that up a little bit,

668
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:02.400
it do a little extra. I just wanted I wanted

669
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to try to take something, get something positive from the

670
00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:09.239
horrible sermon review, because that drives me crazy. Now we

671
00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:11.440
still need to work on Solomon and Christ. I think

672
00:43:11.480 --> 00:43:13.960
that one is just that one makes no sense. But

673
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:17.000
remember in the sermons there was no explanation, there was

674
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:19.800
no justification, there was no proof, just stated in a

675
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:22.440
dogmatic way and immediately moved on. And it didn't even

676
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.400
really fit into the context of what was supposedly being discussed.

677
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But it is interesting to work on. Now, could you

678
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:44.880
not argue? No, I just want to think about this.

679
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:51.519
If you look up every evil king, every wicked king

680
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:57.039
of the entire Old Testament and you put them all together,

681
00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:03.119
don't they just simply demonstrate ultimately that are should I

682
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:05.400
stated this way, When you take all of the evil

683
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:10.199
kings in the in the Old Testament, isn't the Antichrist

684
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:15.239
just the ultimate fulfillment of what all of those evil

685
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:21.079
kings were pointing to an ultimate evil kingdom and an

686
00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:26.360
ultimate evil king, not just saw all the kings. Now Saul,

687
00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:30.000
his his end and the end of Antichrist are very

688
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:33.639
so much similar. I do find that fascinating. But I

689
00:44:33.639 --> 00:44:36.760
think all the evil kings, all of that evil ruling

690
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and reigning, the ultimate fulfillment of all of that, the

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ultimate climax of all of that is Antichrist. He takes

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all of what the evil kings and their kingdoms look like,

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and He's and he he, he then ramps it up

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another one hundred percent. Isn't Antichrist the old picture of

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man attempting to rule and reign without God? I don't know,

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but I've now handed it to you, so you can

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give me your thoughts if you so desire, and you

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can do your own work, build your own chart King

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Saul characteristics, attributes, actions, anti Christ. Maybe we'll do more

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work on it, all right. That was my attempt to

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try to take something from two really bad sermon, two

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parts of reviewing one sermon over almost three hours of

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broadcasting that all kind of went bad, and trying to

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pull something positive from it. Hopefully I was able to

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accomplish that. Thanks for listening. Everyone have a great day.

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God bless