Aug. 21, 2024

Job 5:19 True or False?

Job 5:19 True or False?

We consider a devotional on Job 5:19

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We consider a devotional on Job 5:19

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is

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the Theology Central podcast, Making Theology Central. Good afternoon, everyone,

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and I have a confession to make. Oh devotionals, Oh devotionals,

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How I love you and how I loathe you? Yes,

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this afternoon, I have to make a confession. I love devotionals,

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have one right here, and I loathe them. I have

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a love loathe relationship, a love hate relationship. Do you

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feel the same way about devotionals? Do you love them,

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do you loathe them? Or do you just kind of

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shrug your shoulders and like, I don't know what the

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big deal is about them. I don't use them. I

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don't know what your feelings are. I have a love

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hate relationship, and we're going to talk about why I

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have that love hate relationship. We're going to explore a

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devotional that I was looking at I don't know, early

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this morning, and well, we're going to talk about it.

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It sounds like a plan. Sound like a plan. Well,

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I guess I should probably give you a proper introduction.

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Good afternoon everyone. It is Wednesday, August the twenty first,

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twenty twenty four. It is currently one fifty pm Central Time,

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and I am coming to you live from the Theology

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Central Studio located right here in Abilene, Texas. And in

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this very studio there are stacks of devotionals. I have

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all kinds of devotionals. Yeah, I mean, you name it,

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I have them. I use devotionals all the time. And

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not only that, on all of my podcast apps I

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subscribed to. I don't even know how many different devotional podcasts.

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I don't even know. Some of them are five minutes long,

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some of them are ten minutes long, some of them

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are about fifteen minutes long. And they serve kind of

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like a daily devotional. So I have audio devotionals. I

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have devotionals in print. I have them and little booklets.

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I have them in full like large books where it

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covers an entire year devotional for every day of the year.

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You name it. I have looked at every I constantly

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will hear. Oh, this is the best devotional. No, this

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is the best devotional. Oh it's Morning and Evening by

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Charles Haddon Spurgeon. That's the best. Oh No, it's my

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Utmost for His Highest that's the best. Oh No, it's

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John MacArthur's. I can't remember what one of the devotional

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books he has written. There's a couple of volumes he

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has done. No, it's this one, it's this one, and

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everyone has what they think is this is the devotional

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that transformed my life. It changed my life. But so

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in one sense, I do love them. I love the

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idea that I can click on a podcast and get

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a five or ten minute little devotional thought so I

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have something to think about through the rest of the day.

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I love having something printed, you know, a booklet of

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some sort that I can carry with my Bible, and

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if I get a few minutes, I can open up

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the devotional and there it is. I can be given something.

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I love that idea, but I loathe what I think

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the devotional mindset has done to American evangelicalism and to

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American fundamentalism. I think what we have is we we

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have generations of Christians who think like devotionals. What do

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I mean by that? They think about the text of

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Scripture in a devotional type of way and a devotional mindset.

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They look at a verse and say, oh, this verse

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says this, or this verse says this to me, and

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this verse spoke to me, and this is what God

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said to me. Today They think of it in a

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very devotional mindset, and a devotional mindset is anathema. Devotional

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mindset is a cursed A devotional mindset is anathema to

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true biblical understanding. A devotional mindset is anathema to truly

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understanding the Bible. Or we could say this, a devotional

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mindset is anathema to biblical hermoneutics. If you truly care

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about biblical hermaeutics, if you truly care about proper Bible

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study methods, you know, devotionals are anathema. They are totally

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They are the annihilation of correct way of thinking. In fact,

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devotionals devotional mindset is the soil in which biblical misinterpretation

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is planted. A devotional mindset is the soil in which

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biblical misinterpretation is planted. It grows from that soil because

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everyone just likes this, Oh, okay, what's the devotional thought today? Okay,

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here's the scripture. Let me just read that, and then

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they just go away with that thought. And it's like, well,

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wait a minute, is that thought even truly accurate? Is

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that a correct use of that scripture? Is that a

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correct interpretation of that scripture? And I don't care how

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now I will say some are better in the devotionals

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that have their name attached and really being more careful

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and trying to be more and like what they tend

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to do. Some of them, well, they'll cover the same

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passage for like a week or two weeks, so that

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they can be much more exegetical, much much more placed

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in context. And those do much better. But other devotionals

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I don't do that. Well, here's the verse for today,

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and tomorrow's a completely different verse. They just jump around

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from verse to verse, from passage to passage, from chapter

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to chapter. And then the devotional thought in many cases

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is almost I think, anathema. Well it is to really

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understanding the text of scripture. And I think, and I

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think that that's a very damning and dangerous thing. But

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on the other hand, I love them. Give me a

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devotional and because here's my mindset, give me a devotional,

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no matter if the devotional is any good, no matter

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if the devotional is bad. When I open it up,

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what does it give me? It gives me a text

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of Scripture. In fact, let me look behind me. I'm

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getting up here. Right here, behind me, I have a

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devotional right here. Pathways to his presence a daily devotional. Now,

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this is a devotional for every day of the year.

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So I'm just gonna open it up. Here is February

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the eleventh scripture reading Colossians three, five through nine, key

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verse Romans five eight, Colossians three five through nine, Romans

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five to eight. Now, I don't even care what the

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devotional says at that point. What I'm going to do

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is I'm gonna go read Colossians three five through nine

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and Romans five eight one. I'm gonna see if is

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there any connection between the two. Then I'm just gonna

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start going. Okay, So what's going on in Romans chapter five? Okay,

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all right, what's the message here? How does verse eight

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fit into the overall message? Okay, what's going on in

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the Book of Colossians chapter three? Well, how does five

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and nine fit into the overall thing? And I'm just

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going to immediately utilize that as Okay, you're giving me

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a I see, the devotional is handing me a challenge,

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your challenge today, if you are your mission today, if

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you choose to accept it, is Colossians three five through nine,

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Romans five to eight. Go and then and then I

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already have so I don't even need the devotional at

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that point. Now, at some point I may read the devotional.

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In many cases, I'm like, what does I even have

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to do with Colossions three, five through nine. That's not

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what the text is saying, that's not what the chapter

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is about. And then but it gives me a starting point. Now,

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the problem is many people don't use it as a

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starting point. It's the beginning, it's the end. It's all

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right there and so and and and they will see

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it in a very like oh almost, uh, I think

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in a in a really poor way. The way they

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look at it there is just leads to such misunderstanding.

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And look, I'm not the only want to say this.

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This is one of those cases that many seminary professors

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have said these devotionals have literally destroyed the minds of

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young Christians and how to actually handle the text of scripture.

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They just see it as like, you know, oh, here's

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the verse. Oh God spoke to me today. This is

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what God said. And no, God's not he was speaking

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to Abraham. That's not about you, and what are you doing?

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And so even many seminary professors have been frustrated by this,

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and so I'm not the only one, and I wish

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more pastors would would condemn this way of thinking and

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try to get Christians to actually know how to engage

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the text. Now, the problem is, as a pastor, I

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also know the frustration. You can stand behind the pulpit,

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hour after hour teaching every known Bible study method you

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can come up with. Chapter summary, chapter analysis, biographical, topical, thematical.

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You can go. You can go from every time, you

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can go from every type of book, background, book survey,

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chapter seven, you can go. You can go through every

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Bible study methods you can think of, teach the methods,

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and then find out that no one will actually use

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the methods. They won't engage, they won't use them, They

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just refuse because they require work. A devotional takes five

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to ten minutes. An actual Bible study method may take hours,

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if not weeks, It could take months, depending on what

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you're doing. And they're like, no, no, no, no, no, just

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give me a little devotional. Just give me a little devotional.

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And many publishers have realized this. So then remember they

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like daily devotions, and it was five minute devotions. I

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even remember getting a book called one minute Devotions and

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it was all about, Hey, for people who are so busy,

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here's here's here's something that will get you into the

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word of go God. The only problem is that cannot

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be the beginning and the end. That little devotional is

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just the start. It should then lead to longer meditation

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and more work. But you can tell Christians who have

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a devotional mindset, and in many cases they're unskilled and

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actually handling the text. Now I say all of that

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because well, we're going to look at a devotional. We're

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going to look at what they did in the Book

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of Job, Job chapter five, Job chapter five. And I

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heard this devotional today on the sermon's two point Oh

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app are you ready? You want to hear it? Job

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chapter five. Now, if you need context, the person speaking

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in Job five is the person speaking in Job chapter four.

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Elephas Eliphaz is speaking in chapter five. If you know

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anything about the Book of Job, the Book of Job

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has well. Job is suffering horribly, and he has these friends,

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and these friends give these long sections of dialogue or

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almost like a speech, and they say all kinds of

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things to Job. Now do you go run to one

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of those speeches where his friends may be saying things

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that are accurate, or maybe saying things that are completely

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untrue and build a devotional off that I would be

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highly suspect, And well, let's see what happens. Here we go.

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Our devotional for today is entitled Deliverance not Limited. The

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text is Job, Chapter five and verse nineteen. He shall

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deliver thee in six troubles yay in seven. There shall

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no evil touch thee. Eliph as in this spoke the

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truth of God.

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Whoa okay, elafhas in this spoke the truth of God.

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Now what I always find it interesting is I've seen

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pastors deal with the Book of Job, and it's funny.

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Sometimes they'll say, elafas he was wrong here and wrong

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here and right, but he was right here. Now what

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determines if he's wrong and right? Now? They will say

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Scripture determines whether he's wrong or right. I say, the

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reality is you're determining if he's wrong or right. I

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just think all of his friend's speeches have to be

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considered problematic because most of their attempts are are their

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issue with Job. I mean, if you don't know the

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Book of Job, I mean simply Job is suffering. Why

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because well, God set the entire situation up. He says

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to Satan, have you considered my servant Job? And Satan's

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basically like, well, he worships you only because you protect

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him and you've blessed him. Let me, let me basically

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make him suffer and he will curse you. So guys like, okay,

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go ahead, Well, Job then suffers, people die. There's just

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there's physical pain, suffering. He's suffering, suffering, suffering, and his

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friends show up and nerve. The basic premise of his

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friends is you're suffering because you are a sinner. But

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the text he's not suffering because he's a sinner. He's

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suffering because, well, God set up some challenge with Satan

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and that's why he is suffering. All right, So but

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their whole premise is questionable from the very job, you're

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suffering because you sin, which seems to imply that everyone

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who suffers, you're suffering is because of some sin, and

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if you would just simply stop sinning, then you would

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stop suffering. So with that kind of basic premise in mind,

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when I read Job five nineteen and Eliphast says to Job,

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he shall deliver you in six troubles yay, in seven,

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no evil shall touch you. Wait, So how do we

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understand that they'll come a point where no evil will tell? Now,

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what is he trying to say to Job? What does

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elephas mean in light of Job's suffering? Is he simply saying, hey, Job,

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that all your suffering's going to stop? Is that simply

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what he's saying. Well, we'll consider at least another source

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on this, but let's see how this devotional handles it.

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Are you ready? Here we go. We'll start it over.

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Our devotional for today is entitled Deliverance not Limited. The

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text is Job, chapter five and verse nineteen. He shall

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deliver thee in six troubles, yay, in seven, there shall

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no evil touch thee. Eliph as in this spoke the

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truth of God. We may have as many troubles as

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the work days of the week, But the God who

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worked on those six days will work for us till

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our deliverance is complete. We shall rest with Him and

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in Him on our sabbath.

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Now I agree with that we may suffer every day

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of the week. Ultimately God will deliver us. Now I

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do agree with that ultimately God will deliver us. But

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is that what eliphas is saying? Alaphas coming to Joe, going, hey, man,

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I know you're suffering, but hey, here's good news. You

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may suffer, right, you may suffer, and He will deliver

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you in six troubles. So he will deliver you from

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these troubles. But ultimately there's going to come a time

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well no evil shall touch you. Is he simply trying

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to encourage Job, Hey, you're suffering now, but God's going

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to ultimately deliver you from everything? Is that The purpose

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of eliphas is that what he's saying is that, how

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we interpret this, let's continue.

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The rapid succession of trials is one of the sorest

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tests of faith. Before we have recovered from one blow,

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it is followed by another and another, till we are

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staggered still. The equally quick succession of deliverances is exceedingly cheering.

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New songs are wrung out upon the anvil by the

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hammer of affliction till we see in the spiritual world.

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The antetype of the harmonious Blacksmith. Our confidence is that

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when the Lord makes our trial six six, they will

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be and no more. It may be that we have

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no rest day, for seven troubles come upon us. What

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then in seven there shall no evil touch. Thee evil

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may roar at us, but it shall be kept at

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more than arm's length, and shall not even touch us.

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Its hot breath may distress us, but its little finger

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cannot be laid upon us. With our loins gird about us,

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we will meet the six or the seven troubles, and

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leave fear to those who have no father, no savior,

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and no sanctifier.

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All right, now, first, I think you'll notice that how

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quickly Eliphaz and Job got kicked out of the passage.

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Elafas said it, okay, now it's just argued it's true,

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and then boom, Job doesn't even get mentioned. Really, and

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now it's about you and it's about me. It's about

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your troubles and my troubles. Well already that already, that's see,

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that's such a devotional approach. Just kick out the original

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recipient and make it all about me and make it

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all about you. But it's not about me or you.

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Elafas wasn't speaking to you, He wasn't speaking to me.

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He was speaking to Job. So what was Elafas trying

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to say to Job? Not what the Texas saying to me?

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Why do we or are we so narcissistic thinking. It's

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always about us. So already I'm frustrated. Already I'm frustrated. Okay,

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And and let's just make it very clear, you cannot

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say so. So number one, job got kicked out of

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this text and it became about us. That's a problem.

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Number two. We have to be dogmatic about this. When

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we read he shall deliver you in six troubles, yeay,

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and seven, no evil shall touch you. You get to

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be very careful what you say there, because there is

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no guarantee that God is going to deliver you in

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this life from your trouble. There is no guarantee. You

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may have cancer, and there is no guarantee that God

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is going to deliver you in this life from your cancer.

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You may have a seizure disorder. There is no guarantee

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God is going to deliver you from that. You may

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have a disability, you may have a handicap, you may

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be paralyzed, you may be blind. I don't know what

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you're suffering. There is no guarantee that God is going

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to deliver you from that trouble. There is no guarantee

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God is going to deliver you from anything in this life.

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And to even indicate that is ridiculous. Ultimately, I am

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complete agreement that they will come a time God will

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ultimately deliver me, and therefore then we'll have a glorified body,

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no more pain, no more suffering, no more death, no

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more tears. But not in this life. There is no

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guarantee of deliverance. In this life, people suffer and people die.

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People have extended periods of time of great suffering. People

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can suffer horrible things for years and years and years

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and then die after it. So Number one, the first

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problem with this is job got kicked out, we got inserted.

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Number two, it seemed to imply that God that there

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is some expectation that God will deliver us, and then

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an ultimate expectation that He will ultimately deliver us. Now,

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ultimately I'm at all four. But practically I can't make

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any guarantee. But I guess a third problem. The devotional

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didn't even bother to explain what Alapas was possibly trying

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to say. So just I'm just gonna throw out an

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alternative reading of this, an alternative interpretation, and you can

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decide today which is correct. And if what Eliphaz was

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saying was true or false, you ready okay. In Job five,

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Verse nineteen, Elafhas, one of Job's friends, says the following,

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he shall deliver thee in six troubles yeay, and seven,

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there shall no evil touch thee. Elephants is speaking to Job.

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Let me stress that again, Eliphaz is speaking to Job,

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not you. Elfhas isn't speaking to you. He isn't talking

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about you, He isn't thinking about you. He is speaking

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to Job, who is suffering immensely after losing his wealth,

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his children, and his health. Elephas suggests that job suffering

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might be a result of his own sins, and that

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if Job repair and turns back to God, God will

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deliver him from his troubles. Now, if you read the

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entire speech which starts in chapter four, then it says

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then Elephas, and then it goes on, it goes on.

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Look how many verses in chapter four twenty one? Then

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you get to chapter five, and chapter five has twenty seven. Right.

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Verse nineteen comes almost at the end of all of

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those words, And we're just gonna take a devotional from

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verse nineteen and completely forget everything Elafas has said up

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to this point and simply saying what Elaphas says, here

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is the truth of God s this is the stuff.

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This is the kind of stuff that destroyed. This creates

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a Christianity which I can't be a part of because

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it's this fraudulent, fake, shallow, weak minded Christianity that can't

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deal with the actual text in any way, shape or form.

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Now Job answers in chapter six. So what I would

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challenge you to do today is I would challenge you

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to read Job four and five, and you, on your

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own determine what was Elephas really trying to say when

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he said, hey, Job, he shall deliver you in six troubles, yeay,

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and seven, no evil shall touch you? What is he

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trying to say? I want you to draw your own conclusion.

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and now I'm going to continue on and offer you

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an alternative interpretation. Right, So, Elphaz is speaking to Job,

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who is suffering immensely. Job is lost wealth, children, and health.

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Elfhaz suggests that Job's suffering might be a result of

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his own sin, and that if Job repents and turns

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back to God, God will deliver him from his troubles.

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So it may be that, hey, hey, Job, if you

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will repent. God will deliver you from your trouble. See,

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the reason you're not being delivered from these troubles is

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because you will not repent. Meaning Eliphaz's entire premise here

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is fraudulent. Job is not suffering because he hasn't repented.

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That is completely erroneous. Elifaz emphasizes God's protection and deliverance

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the number six and seven there here is a poetic

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expression in Hebrew literature signifying completeness or the totality of

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God's protection. This is supposed to signify God. God can

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perfectly protect you. God can perfectly deliver you. So why

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are you not being perfectly delivered? Why are you not

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being perfectly protected? Well, because Job, you are in sin.

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There is nothing positive here. The whole thing is a

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fraudulent misunderstanding. Job's friends are not the good guys in

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the story. But the devotional is like he speaks the

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truth of God. Now let's kick Job out and let's

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insert ourselves. Hey, hey, hey, dear Saint of God, my

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dearly beloved, know that God will deliver you out of

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six troubles and then ultimately He will deliver you from all.

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And there's someone sitting there going, Well, could he deliver

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me out of this wheelchair? Could he deliver me from

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having to go to chemo treatment? Could he deliver me

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from you know, I don't know those eighteen years I

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was being molested? Could he deliver it? Could he deliver

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me from stop making promises that God has not made?

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But wait? Essentially, Eliphaz is saying that God will deliver

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a righteous person from many troubles and protect them from harm,

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implying that job suffering would cease if he returned to righteousness.

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See that's the implication. The devotional just said, Oh what

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a beautiful passage. Oh what did you what did God speak?

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How did God speak to you today? Well? I was

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reading Job five nineteen, and God just promise me He's

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going to deliver me from all of these troubles. Have

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you heard Christians talk like that? I just want to

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just I just want to start screaming and just like

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you know, unclean, unclean, Just stay away from me. You're unclean.

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I mean no, I may be unclean, someone's unclean, Just

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get away from me. The context of Job's situation, Elafhaz's

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words are a misapplication of truth. The Book of Job

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makes it very clear that Job's suffering is not due

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to his own sin, but it is a test allowed

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by God. Eliphaz Is incorrectly assumes that job suffering is

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a direct result of his wrongdoing, and therefore his advice

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to Job is based on a faulty understanding of Job's situation,

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and the idea is God will. The idea seems to

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be God will deliver you six times and ultimately seven

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you won't be hard. But it's all based on if

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you get right now. That's I am not. Oh, I could,

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I could? I want you know the goal here. The

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goal here is not to go full blown. I could

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turn this into a series and we could go through

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everything in Job four and five in the speech of

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Elaphas to see if this holds true. But I want

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you to read. I'm going to have you read four

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and five and see. You can tell me what you find.

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You can tell me what you find. Well, I was

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getting ready to just start working through Job four and

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five right now, to see if this holds true. You

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can look it up. But at least some are willing

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to admit, Hey, what Elephas is doing here is a

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complete misapplication. Let me read this again. The context of

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Job's situation. Elaphas's words are a misapplication of truth. The

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Book of Job makes it clear that job suffering are

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not due to his own sin, but as a test

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allowed by God. Elafas incorrectly assumes that job suffering is

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a direct result of wrongdoing, and therefore his advice to

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Job is based on a faulty understanding of Job's situation.

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Elafhaz represents a common theological error, the belief in a

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strict retributive justice system where good things always happens to

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good people and bad things only happen to bad people.

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The Book of Job ultimately challenged this very simplistic view,

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showing that the righteous can suffer and not all suffering

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is a result of personal sin. Elafaz's statement is a

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misunderstanding of Job's as a demonstrates a misunderstanding of Job's circumstance,

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leading him to offer advice that is not only helpful,

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but also incorrect in the context of Job's experience. And

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if you even look at this, if we take this section,

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if we've just break this say down into maybe seventeen

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to twenty, look at that at the entire section. Behold,

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happy is the man whom God corrects. Is God correcting job? No,

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God is not even correcting. So even in verse seventeen,

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you can already see that Elaphas is misinterpreting the entire situation. Therefore,

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do not despise the chastening of the Almighty. Hey, hey,

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job is not being chasened. Elaphast see the devotional just

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goes to verse nineteen and says, hey, he's speaking the

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truth of God. No, he's misrepresenting. God is not chasening job.

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God is not correcting Job. Job hasn't done anything. See

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why I loathe devotionals. For he bruises, but he binds up.

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He wounds, but his hands make whole. Well, God, God

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is not correcting. He's not bruising, he's not doing the hest.

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Now he's set this up, and we could argue about

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how messed up this story is. But he's not being

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punished or disciplined or chastened. And then from that he says,

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he shall deliver you in six troubles, but seven no

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evil shall touch you. See the idea is, hey, hey,

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he'll deliver you from each one, as he will, in

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a sense, deliver you from the trouble that he puts

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you in to chase in you, and then ultimately in

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the seventh no evil will touch you if you ultimately

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repent and respond to the chasening in a correct way.

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That's the clear implication. And famine. He shall redeem you

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from death and in war from the power of the sword. See,

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God will ultimately only do good to you. If once

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you are right, then God will only do good to you.

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Because God only does good to good people and does

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bad to bad people. That is a complete misunderstanding. In fact,

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the entire book Good Job is a correction to this.

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And someone took a devotional. In fact, that was Charles

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Hadden Spurgeon. Someone took, and again everyone thinks Charles Hadden

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Spurgeon's devotional is the greatest thing in the history of humankind.

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I've always had problems with it. I cannot tell you

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how many years I have bought a new copy of

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Morning and Evening by Charles Hatton Spurgeon, a new notebook,

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a new box of pencils. I'm like, this year, I'm

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just gonna do just spend all year and Morning and

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Evening by Charles Hatton Spurgeon. And usually before I get

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halfway through January I'm breaking pencils, burning notebooks. I'm like,

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why do I do this? Because it drives me literally insane,

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and how he handles the text of scripture. But everybody's like,

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he's the greatest. It's the most amazing thing I've ever heard.

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This is great. And I'm like, oh, if you are

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going with this, you have no idea how to handle

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scripture because that's that devotional mindset where you just open

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it up in any word, just oh, that's God's word

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to me. Oh. I was reading Joke five nineteen and

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God was telling me that he will deliver me from

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six troubles and in seven, no evil's going to touch me. Oh,

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God's gonna deliver me from my troubles, not only presently

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but ultimately. That is not what that text is saying.

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Is it's the words of a very confused man who

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is accusing job of suffering because of sin, that he's

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being chastened by God, that God is bruising him, that

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God is doing these things. But hey, hey, God will

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deliver you after each chastening and ultimately nothing is going

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to harm you, No evil's gonna touch you. But it's

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based on if you get right with God. And Job's

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issue is not getting right with God. Now did you

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hear my loathing of devotionals? Did you hear it? Did

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you hear how angry I get now? I get angry

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not because of any personal thing to me. I get

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angry before what it does to other people. They hear that,

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and then they hold onto it. They cling to it

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in the midst of difficult and then when situations don't

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get better and situations don't get better, and situations don't

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get better, and situations don't get better, and then they

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don't understand where where is God? Why is it God

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delivering me from these troubles? I heard a devotional on

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the sermon's two point oh app that told me, Yeah,

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you heard a devotional that literally lied to you and

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took a passage where someone is misapplying truth to Job

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and made it about you. No, that is in medicine,

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we would call that malpractice. Someone would get sued, and

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theology would call it a beautiful devotional. Oh it's so,

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it's malpractice someone she has sued for it. Now At

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the same time, I love that devotional and Job five

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nineteen I love it. You know why because guess what

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I just did? I just spent thirty minutes looking at

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job five nineteen and now guess what. We have an

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assignment to read job four and five so that we

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can determine exactly what Eliphaz was trying to say. See

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how I love that devotional. I love it because it

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got us into the scriptures. It got us something to

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work on. We have an assignment four and five. Are

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you already working on it? I want you to go

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through job four and five, and I want you to

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start summarizing what Eliphas was saying. And then I want

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you to interpret five nineteen and light of what he

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says and everything that comes before and everything that comes

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after it, and jobs four and five. So job four

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and five go through, summarize what he is saying, Elafhas's argument,

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and then then interpret five nineteen and light of those summaries. Now,

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guess what got us there? A one minute devotional? Guess

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what led me to the point of utter anger that devotional.

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I loathe them, I love them, I love and loathe,

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I loathe and love, I love and hate. I despise

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but desire. I know it's conflicting, I know it's double minded.

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I'm sorry, but there we have it all right? Oh,

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I want to go through job for see, that's what

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I see. I'm I want to so bad. I want

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to just say. But because when you leave, when you

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leave something just as an assignment, you don't know if

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anyone will actually participate. If one attempts a word with you,

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will you become weary? But who can withhold himself from speaking?

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Surely you have instructed many, and you have strengthened weak hands.

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Your words have upheld him who was stumbling, and you

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have strengthened the feeble needs. But now it comes upon

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you and you are weary. It touches you, and you

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are troubled. Is not your reverence, your confidence and the

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integrity of your wighs your hope? Remember now, whoever perished

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being not? Remember now who ever perished being innocent? Or

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or where were the upright? Ever? Cut off? Immediately see

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where he's going. Hey, you're suffering because you're not upright.

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You're suffering because you're not innocent. And then you're gonna

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go to five nineteen and say this somehow. Ela Faz

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was like, Hey, here's some good news. God's gonna deliver

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you from six of your troubles and the seventh, he's

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gonna alter, he's not encouraging Joe. What in the world, man,

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What in the world? And you know what, I'm so

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grateful though, there was a time in my Christian life.

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I'm just gonna tell you I would have listened to

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that and I would have started writing notes out based

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off what I heard. I would have went with that interpretation.

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I would have went with that idea because I would

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just assume it has to be true, it has to

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be right, and then I probably would have preached it

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or taught it, and I would have been basically guilty

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of malpractice. And I would have given myself that hope.

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That makes me so mad that I ever did. That

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makes me mad that sometimes you got to learn not

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what to trust. You can't trust devotionals. You just cannot

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trust them. I'm not saying don't listen to them. Listen.

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I subscribe to all the devotional RSS feeds. I subscribe

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to as many as I can from sermon audio. I

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have them on my other podcast apps, and I'll get

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the notification and I will listen because I like to

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hear devotionals, but I typically use them now and I

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hate to say it. You can say I'm jaded. You

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can say I'm cynical, but I just look at them like, hmmm,

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let's look at the text. But I'm grateful that they

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give me the text, and I'm grateful they give me

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kind of a philological hypothesis that I can test. We

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just tested job five nineteen briefly. Now your job is

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to go really test it. Read all of job for

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all Job five, summarize the arguments that are being made

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by Eliphaz, and then interpret five nineteen. And light of that,

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if you come up with a different interpretation, I would

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love to hear it. You have an assignment. Go enjoy yourself,

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talk about it, discuss it, have a family debate. Tell

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me what you discover. Everyone, have a great day. God

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bless