Isaiah 54 and T-Shirt Theology

0:02 Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central. All right, guys, it's time for you to be very honest in your Christian life. Have you ever purchased some Jesus junk? Have you ever purchased any Jesus junk? You may not have called it Jesus junk, it's kind of a title I've given it. But have you purchased any Jesus junk? Well, we're going to talk about some Jesus junk right after I say good afternoon everyone. It is Friday, April the eleventh, twenty twenty five. It is currently four forty seven pm Central time, and I'm coming to you live from the Theology Central studio located right here in Abilene, Texas. And I purchased my first Jesus junk right here in Abilene, Texas.

1:02 So this is how it happened, all right. I'm a teenager, I become a Christian, and I'm introduced. I don't even think anyone really introduced me to it. I think I just knew, okay, I'm a Christian. So it kind of felt like, I don't know how, I don't know exactly what. Led me there. But in my mind, I'm a Christian now, so I need some Christian books. I think that's really the kind of the way it went. I went to get Christian books. So I got in my car. I live in Buffalo Gap. I drive to Abilene, Texas Butternut Street the Bible Bookstore, and I walk in. Now I'm thinking books, and yes, the majority of the Bible Bookstore was books, but they also had all of this other stuff. Now, at the time, I didn't call it Jesus chunk. I'm like, oh, this is cool. Now they have all kinds of Christian stuff, right, Christian T shirts, Christian hats, a pencil but with like scripture written on the side of it, Christian coffee cups, Christian, this, Christian, that Christian, you name it that, all kinds of Christian posters, Christian figurines, Christian music, Christian videos, Christian It's like every It was like everything you could find in a secular store in a sense. Now you can get your the Christian version of it, right, And at the time I didn't know any better. I thought it was cool. Sol let me buy a Christian shirt, and oh, let me buy a Christian let me buy Christian music, and let me buy a Christian this, and let me buy some Christian poster to put on my wall, and Christian this and Christian that, and Christian this, and Christian this and

2:32 Christian that, and so I was right there. I immersed myself into the Christian subculture. I immersed it. I embraced it, and I embraced it for a very long time, and a lot of times, even if I heard someone criticize it, I would get somewhat offended because I'm like, well, look, what do you want me to do. I'm trying to live out my Christian life. I'm trying. I'm trying to buy all of this Christian stuff. Why are you criticizing it? And I never really. Understood the criticisms. But the more I begin to learn, and the more I begin to develop in my understanding of theology, I hate to say this, I became much more jaded and cynical, going, this is Jesus junk. You're just throwing scripture on anything you can throw it on, and you sell it. This is about merchandising, This is about This isn't business. This is like the Christian industrial complex.

3:28 Throw a scripture on it, throw Jesus on it, and you can sell millions of dollars to Christians who are trying to it and immerse themselves into this Jesus subculture. And so I became very very critical of it. Now, there are some things about it, I guess you could try to justify, but there are other parts of it that should bother you greatly. Because let's be very very honest with one another. Okay, let's be very very honest. I gave my confession of why Jesus junk purchasing. You can be honest with yourself, but let's all be honest to one another. A large portion of modern day Christianity has traded Biblical literacy for catchphrases, doctrine for merchandise, and hermeneutics for hoodie slogans. Am I being too harsh? Am I being too harsh? I think I can argue that a large portion of modern day Christianity has traded Biblical literacy for catchphrases, doctrine for merchandise, and hermonuticts for hoodie slogans.

4:40 I think that there is some truth to that. We can call this instead of calling it Jesus junk, which we could do an entire episode about I mean, oh, I need When does Christian book distributor send out their little catalog? Right? I get it in the mailbox every what is it? It feels like every month or every quarter, and a lot of times I keep it and look through it. Look at how much Jesus junk is in the Christian book distributors catalog that gets sent out. There's all kinds of stuff in there, from shirts to remember. At one point they sold sandals that had like a scripture that he leads me in the paths of righteousness, or or he will he will never forsake me, something along those lines. And when you stepped into sand, it left the end print of the scripture. Oh Jesus sandals.

5:26 I mean, come on, guys, I mean there was everything right. So, but the problem with a lot of this is that it just demonstrates that Christianity at large has traded Biblical literacy for catchphrases, doctrine for merchandise, and hermonuticts for hoodie slogans. So we will call this instead of calling it Jesus junk for this episode, we'll call it T shirt theology. T shirt theology. You've seen it Oh, come on, some of you have worn it. I had all kinds of Christian t shirts with scriptures on it, all kinds, okay, constantly when I was young. All right, maybe you even believed in the whole idea of what you were trying to do. You've seen shirts that say something like God's got this too, blessed to be stressed.

6:16 I can do all things. O. Come on, you know the rest or how about this one? My love will not be removed from you. My love will not be removed from you. Oh that sounds really good, doesn't it? Right? But what if the scripture reference is Isaiah chapter fifty four, verse ten. Oh, no, Isaiah fifty four. How long have I been yelling now about Isaiah forty through fifty five, and that Christians cannot seem to get this section of scripture right? No matter what. They found a way to make money off this section of scripture, but clearly they don't handle it anywhere close to hermoneutically accurately, right, I mean, I think we've demonstrated that over and over and over. I've been talking about this since October of twenty twenty four. Now, these slogans, the shirts, this merchandise, they're everywhere. They're from Etsy shops to megachurch bookstores. They're screen printed doctrine for people who want their theology to feel good, sell well, and fit comfortably.

7:32 But we're not really worried if it's accurate, if it even knows what the which, you know, if it's covenantal In other words, is it a scripture referencing to Israel and their covenant. It's not even They don't even care if it's faithful to the text. It feels good, it's encouraging. Hey, this is selling a well hey, well, hey, our church bookstore and church. Don't even get me started. Churches that have bookstores that sell things inside the church, not churches that have a library that's giving away books or just doing book giveaways and giving people. No, no, no, no, they have a bookstore so that you can buy books. If you ever walk into a church and it's got a bookstore and it's selling books, commentaries, t shirt, you need to leave because that is wrong. If the church should not be selling things, it should be giving away books and commentaries and reference tools as much as possible.

8:31 Not selling it. The church is not a place where you turn the things of God into merchandising, you don't do that, and they sell. And see some of these churches that. Have their church shirts right with a church logo and a scripture and you people have to buy the church shirt. What is that nonsense? But churches love this stuff. They go along with it. Now, you could argue that there's nothing inherently wrong. You could argue that there's nothing inherently wrong with printing a scripture on a shirt, and I will be like, Okay, you know what, there may not be anything completely wrong with printing scripture on a shirt, but there's still a problem. Like on one end, you can't say, well, you put a scripture on a shirt, you're not really doing anything wrong. But most of the verses that are printed on these shirts are so ripped so far out of context, they're stripped of any true textual meaning, and they're marketed as basically a personal affirmation for people who who were never the original recipients of the promise.

9:34 That's the thing. They take a verse, they rip it out of context, they throw it on their shirt like it's some personal affirmation, But it's not a personal affirmation to you because you're wearing the shirt as if it's about you, or it's about the people who see it. But in many cases, the affirmation on the shirt has nothing to do with you, me or anyone who sees it, because it was originally written to people who are long gone and dead and it had that proper context. I don't know, like a verse from Isaiah fifty four, are Jeremiah or I can go on and on and on and on these shirts. This merchandising, this Jesus junk, just becomes spiritual fortune cookies, universal promises offered with zero philological accountability. This is not harmless encouragement. This is not harmless inspiration. It's the repackaging of scripture that has historical, textual, philological context and you just turn it into something emotionally satisfying something.

10:39 That's where you're marketing half truths. I mean, the scripture is true, you're just marketing it in an incorrect way. For example, Isaiah fifty four to ten, it's beautiful, it's powerful, My steadfast love shall not depart from you, and my covenant apiece shall not be removed. But who is the you? What covenant is being referenced, what event preceded this promise, and what fulfillment doesn't look forward to see when you go to T shirt. Theology doesn't even ask those questions. It assumes that if it feels encouraging, it must be true for me. It's a form of philological narcissism dressed up as devotion.

11:23 That's what it is. It's theological narcissism. You think everything is about you. You think everything's there to encourage you, to make you feel good, to pick you up, to lift you up. It's not about you. And I don't care if you paid twenty four to ninety nine for it. I don't care. It's not about you. And the Church, broadly speaking, has enabled this trend. The Church supports it, the Church feeds it. Why because of its biblically shallow preaching sermons over actually studying the text, logically generic worship lyrics, consumer driven Christianity that wants God to speak like an Instagram post versus actually dealing with the text, and people like those little those sermons where the people give the little Instagram quotes basically, oh, I can post that on my social media.

12:14 That sounds really good. That sounds really good. Ooh he gave me three nice little points in a sermon. That's all people stinking want is at all packaged in some nice little formula so that they can feel good about themselves because they had a little bit of spirituality. And it's nothing more than Jesus chunk, It's nothing more than theology T shirt. It's marketing, it's narcissism, it's trash. But oh, I. Can't criticize it because I'm being mean. I'm being too mean. So what happens You end up with a generation of Christians with basically a house full of Christian T shirts and almost no understanding of Biblical covenants, prophetic literature, or hermeneutical context. Now why am I mentioning all of this? Well, because I was minding my own business, not bothering anybody.

13:05 Everything was going good in my life. And then I see an ad. I don't even know this is one of those pop up ads or right there on the side of some website I was looking at. I think it was at the Christianpost dot com. I think it was a Christianpost dot com. I think it was down at the bottom. I think that's where it was. Christianpost dot com. I could go look and see if I could find it, and all of a sudden. I saw this picture of a T shirt. I'm like, I wonder, I wonder what this is. So I expanded it. I'm like, okay, it's a picture of a woman wearing a T shirt. And I'm like, wait though the mountains and I'm like, I'm like, oh no, it's Isaiah chapter fifty four. You gotta be kidding me. So it's a shirt with Isaiah fifty four with a part of Isaiah fifty four to ten quoted on it. In fact, I'm going to open this up. I'm going to open up the link. I'm going to open up the link here, no, go go here, I'm gonna try to get they got different colors here, Oh, this is a nice green one.

14:08 I'm gonna try to expand it. Here we go, though the mountains move and the hill shake, my love will not be removed from you. From from you is all in caps. So through though the mountains, all caps move, and the hill shake, my love will be will not be removed from you? All caps. What's the idea? Hey, God's love is not going to be removed from you? And then what's underneath it? Isaiah fifty four to ten. So they take Isaiah fifty four ten. Throw it on a shirt so we can sell some merchandise, so we can. Make a little bit of money. And then what are we telling everyone God's love is not going to be removed from you? Well, the idea, you can said, Well, the idea is still logically sound.

14:53 Has nothing to do with Isaiah fifty four to ten. Though, that's the problem. The T shirt and I guess the name of the company or the website is. Meek Ever meek eve Er. Meekver dot com features the phrase my love will not be removed from you alongside the citation Isaiah fifty four ten. It presents a message of enduring divine love. While this sentiment aligns with Christian theology, a closer examination of Isaiah fifty four ten within its biblical and theological context reveals several concepts regarding its application in this format. Now, that paragraph came from Ai because I gave AI a picture of the shirt and said what do you think about this?

15:38 And it said the T shirt is from meekever dot com features the phrase my love will not be removed from you alongside the citation Isaiah fifty four ten. It presents a message of enduring divine love. While the sentiment aligns with Christian theology, a closer examination of Isaiah fifty four ten within its biblical and theological context reveals several concerns regarding its application in this format. No, wait, Isaiah, AI says, there's some concerns. Wait. AI can figure this out, but Christians can't. So I said, okay, Ai, do your work, go, just go, just just do your thing. Tell me, tell me the problems here number one, Ai says.

16:20 Biblical and textual context, Isaiah fifty four to ten states and this is Ai quotes from the nib. Here, though the mountains be shaken and the hills be removed, Yet my unfailing love for you will not be shaken, nor my covenant of peace be removed, says the Lord who has compassion on you. Ai says, this verse is a part of a prophetic message too. Who can it be, ladies and gentlemen, This is a prophetic message too to you. No to the church, No to your family, No to your neighbors, No to Issa ray L, to Israel. That's who it's to. Even Ai knows this, and we've been trying to establish this now since October. Isaiah forty through fifty five. The context of Isaiah forty through fifty five is that Israel Judah specifically has gone into Babylonian captivity.

17:23 They have suffered and suffered and suffered, and Isaiah forty through fifty five are the words of comfort that is supposed to go to the people in Babylonian captivity, announcing that ultimately that their capt captivity has. Come to an end. Isaiah thirty nine sets the context forty through fifty five, over and over and over. It tells you who's it is, to who it's referencing. It's about Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel Juda, to be specific, that's who it's about. It's not a prophetic message to you. It's not about you. This prophetic message is a hearing them of God's steadfast love and covenant of peace following a period of judgment and exile.

18:09 The imagery of mountains and hills being removed emphasizes the unchanging nature of God's commitment compared to the transient nature of the world. Now for Israel, this unchanging commitment, this unchanging commitment, is based on God has made a covenant with Israel, very specific promises, very specific things that are going to come to pass for Israel. God's unchanging nature, God's unchanging commitment to that very covenant that he made with them. If you go rip Isaiah fifty four to ten to make it about you, you're literally just slapping the people was originally too in the face and say, we don't care it's about you, because we only wanted to make it about us. And it's a cool little shirt and I'm gonna wear it to church and everybody's gonna love it.

19:01 So the biblical and textual context is not about you. It's about Israel. Ai says theological considerations covenantal specificity. Oh wow, AI knows. About covenant, isn't that interesting? The promise in Isaiah fifty four to ten is directed specifically to Israel within the context of the old Covenant. Now, while Christians believe in the continuity and fulfillment of God's promises through Christ, directly applying this verse to individuals without acknowledging its original audience can lead to theological oversimplification. Nature of divine love. The phrase my love will not be removed from you captures the essence of God's enduring love. However, isolating that statement from its covenantal context may suggest a universal guarantee without the relational dynamics present and the biblical narrative.

19:49 So in other words, you're oversimplifying it. You're not being accurate with the text. Ai says. There's also some logic and interpretive issues selective quotation. The shirt presents a paraphrase version of the verse, omitting the conditional and covenantal aspects that are integral to its meaning. The selective quotation can lead to a misrepresentation of the nature of God's promises. So let's look at it and it's full. Let's read all of it. Isaiah fifty four to ten. I'm gonna read from the King James. Now, for the mountains shall depart and the hills be removed, But my kindness shall not puff depart from thee. Neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, Saith, the Lord that hath mercy on the The covenant is central to this. Now, if you know anything about the old covenant, it works this way for Israel. Okay, you can go to Deuteronomy twenty eight, twenty nine, and thirty.

20:50 To see this. Hey, if you do this, boom, you're gonna get life, you're gonna get good, you're gonna get blessing. Everything's gonna be great. But but but, but bud, if you don't do this, boom curses, death, suffering, all it's gonna be bad. You can't just say this the way this is quoted on a shirt. Oh see, God's it's all gonna be great. Who whoa whoa, whoa whoa whoa For Israel, it's only great if they do good. But if they don't do good, then it's curses. Their crops are not gonna grow. It's famine, it's pestilence, it's death. Oh but we're gonna We're not gonna deal with all of that reality because you know, we just let like our theology on a shirt, and we like our theology basically just like on a T shirt for our sermons. Ai also says there's logical and interpretive issues, and this says the commercialization of scripture using a profound theological statement on apparel risk trivializing its significance.

21:48 The commercialization of such messages may dilute their depth and lead to superficial understanding of complex theological concepts. That's the modern day church we so minimize complex illological concepts because you can't deal with complex zillological concepts. Because you try to deal with it. Christians will argue and they'll fight, and they'll get their feelings hurt, and they'll get mad because they just want everything. So they want everything reduced to a T shirt. They say they don't, They say, I want in depth teaching. No, you don't, because as soon as you really dig in and really start questioning and start doing hermoneutics and doing theology, those variousame people will get offended in med and they run to the nearest T shirt factory, I mean church and get their little T shirt theology and three points and a nice little sermon, and then they can go to the potlack cold hand, sing Kumbai y'ah and everyone's happy, all wearing their Jesus chunk. Now, while the message on the shirt may align with Christian belief in God's on wavering love, its presentation lacks the depth and context of Isaiah fifty four to ten. For a more philologically sound representation, it would be beneficial to include the full verse or provide the context that acknowledges its original audience and covenantal framework.

23:10 AI says, if you can, if you can design a shirt that will reflect the historical and covenantal context of the verse, perhaps through accompanying imagery or an explanatory text. I don't think. AI understands that would be kind of a weird looking shirt. Your shirt's got all is all. It's covered in the front, on the sleeve, in the back with a full explanation. Yeah. Yeah, maybe it's just better you just leave scripture off shirts. What A that's crazy. Maybe we just don't reduce, Maybe we just don't reduce theology to T shirt theology. Now, if we if we want to actually look at Isaiah fifty four to ten, and I'll go through this relatively quick.

23:56 I'm going to quote from a different translation. Now, For the mountain may depart and the hills be removed, but my steadfast love shall not depart from you, and my covenant of peace shall not be removed, says the Lord who has compassion on you. Right, let's look at the contextual placement, literary context. Isaiah fifty four follows Isaiah fifty three the Great Servants Song, describing a suffering figure who bears the sins of many. Isaiah fifty four begins a shift from atonement Isaiah fifty three to restoration and assurance for Zion Jerusalem Israel. Right. It uses the imagery of a barren woman, a deserted wife, and a city afflicted and now reassures God's people that a future restoration is guaranteed.

24:44 Isaiah fifty four to ten is part of a longer poetic section verses seven through ten that highlights God's compassion after a time of judgment. If you want to look at Isaiah fifty four, you can go to verse seven Isaiah fifty four. Seven. For a small moment, have I forsaken thee? That's how does that? How come that doesn't show up on the shirt? Hey, for a small moment, I have forsaken THEE. Put that on a T shirt and sell it. People will be like, well, you want me to wear a shirt that says God has forsaken me. God hasn't forsaken me. He said he would never forsake me. There's no way that can't be about me. You gotta read it in context. Well, sure, it's sure, it's weird. You didn't have a problem with the context for verse ten. Now, for a moment, have I forsaken THEE. I wonder, oh that could be. I don't know Judah placed in. I don't know Babylonian captivity.

25:37 But with great mercies will I gather THEE. And a little wrath, I hid my face from THEE for a moment, But with everlasting kindness I will I have mercy on THEE. Say the Lord that redeemer, all these these you got to identify. That's all Israel Judah. Now we could get into a discussion. Is now theological discussion would be does this own only reference them being forsaken in Babylonian captivity? Or does this refer to Israel being set aside so that the Gentiles could be broughtn brought in? Does this have broader interpretive ramifications other than just the Babylonian captivity. We could ask that question.

26:18 But none of this has anything to do with you or me. For this is verse nine. For this is as the waters of Noah unto me. For I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth. So I have sworn that I would not be wroth with THEE, nor rebuke THEE. Who is I referring to It's referring to Israel, not you, not me, not the church. So it's gonna so in this section again Isaiah fifty four ten. It's part of a longer poetic section that highlights God's compassionate after a time passion compassion. If I can read correctly after a time of judgment, now that's kind, that's kind of the literary context, the historical context. The passage is addressed to exile Judah, likely during or anticipating the Babylonian captivity. God had judged his people Isaiah thirty nine.

27:16 But now he speaks of future mercy, restoration, and unshakable covenant faithfulness. The language reflects the post exile hope grounded and God's covenant character. The structure of the verse. The verse contains three core contrasts. Mountains made apart, my steadfast love shall not depart. Hills may be removed. My covenant of peace shall not be removed. Post judgment is implied present compassion and mercy. The verses follow a concessive pattern. Even if this happens, yet I will not. The key terms mountains, hills this symbolize the most stable and movable parts of creation. The imagery suggests that even the most fixed aspects of nature might collapse, but God's love will remain. Hey, Israel, everything may collapse, everything may fall apart, but my love for you will remain because I'm in a covenant with you, and I'm made a covenant with you, and all the covenant promises.

28:16 Will be fulfilled, even if. Everything is falling apart around you, which they would think everything's falling apart around them, because Jerusalem has been destroyed, the temple has been destroyed, and they've been in captivity for almost seventy years. And if we apply this to later on seventy a d. The Temple's going to be destroyed, Jerusalem is going to be destroyed, and Israel for all practical purposes, is wipped off the face of the earth. They set aside until the time of the gentiles be fulfilled. We can get into all of that. Steadfast love. According to Ai, this is one of the most theologically rich words in the Hebrew Bible. It denotes covenant to loyalty, loving kindness, faithful love, not just emotion, but commitment to relationship. Often used in connection with God's covenant with his we are you seeing.

29:01 Steadfast love is often used according to Israel and it's God's covenant with them. That's a shock. How could that even be possible because it's on a T shirt and it's about me. No, it's not about you. It's about God's covenantal love with Israel. The Covenant, the Covenant, the Covenant, the Covenant, the Covenant, Covenant of Peace. This is most likely a poetic reference to the covenantal relationship God has with his people, where Shalom implies not just a lack of war, but wholeness, security, and well being. This echoes Ezequel thirty four Ezequel thirty seven, where Covenant of Peace refers to God's future work of restoration and blessings for Israel. So is that Covenant of peace? And verse ten neither shall the Covenant of My.

29:45 Peace be removed? Is that a reference to new covenant that is made with whom Israel? The new Covenant's made with Israel. I know, people seem to forget that it's made with the House of Israel, in the House of Judah. It's made with Israe. So just me, then we could get into a theological argument. Does that have broader implications? But see, we're not gonna get anywhere, because you know, Christians don't like this kind of stuff. They just like a nice little T shirt compassion. All right, Look it says, uh yeah, depending on your translation, Depending on your translation. It's rooted in the Hebrew word for womb, indicating deep nurturing mercy. This word connects to the emotional aspect of God's care. He's not only faithful, but personally moved towards his people. The if we look at it in the King James, it says something like this said the Lord that have mercy on thee. This is a This is a deep.

30:49 Nurturing mercy, a deep nurturing mercy. So what is the theological themes in Isaiah fifty four to ten Divine faithfulness versus you and instability. Creation may fall mountains hills, but God's covenant love is more stable than nature itself. God's covenant is not rooted in Israel's performance, but in his character and promises. WHOA, that's deep. God's covenant is. Not rooted in Israel's performance, It's ultimately connected to his character and his promises. The covenant appeace in this verse refers to God's commitment to restore his people despite their post past rebellion. This is now now we could get into a whole discussion here. Just note that you have a new covenant made with Israel. Is this a reference to that new covenant? Is that what it's referring to. Well, God will ultimately if you look at the new Covenant language and Ezekiel and even in Jeremiah, Israel's going to be completely restored.

31:43 They're going to be put in the land. Israel's going to get a new heart, and they're no longer going to turn to idolatry, and they're basically no longer going to sin. Okay, that is something that is future, because that did not happen for them when they came out of Babylonian captivity. Post judgment mercy Isaiah fifty four to seven through eight mentions a momentary forsaking, but that is now replaced with everlasting compassion. This connects to the broader message of Isaiah forty through fifty five, where God is betrayed as returning to comfort his people after judgment. So then I asked Ai, hey, what about some exegetical warnings, And it says this verse does not promise unconditional peace to every person or guarantee of love, regardless of faith or covenant or covenant context. It is covenantal language addressed to God's people first to post exile Israel, all right, And if you want to expand it, well, then you were going to have to look at some other verses that would carry the same idea. To isolate it on a T shirt, my love will not be removed from You may wrongly universalize the promise without the covenental framework that makes it meaningful. For the original here is this was a prophetic reassurance through though God judged them, he was not finished with them. The exile was not the end.

32:59 God's covenant facethfulness remained intact. If you want to apply it today, in Christ, you and I, in Christ, we are brought into God's eternal covenant of peace these Ephesians two fourteen through eighteen. His steadfast love is made manifest and secured by the work of Christ Romans eight thirty eight through thirty nine. But this love is not general or vague. It is secured with the covenant relationship, not independent of it. Now I could go on. And do a full study of Isaiah fifty four ten, placing it in the context of all of Isaiah fifty four. But when we get to Isaiah fifty four, and our study of Isaiah forty through fifty five will go verse by verse through all of it, but just righte there that there's a whole level of meaning. Now most of you said, well, the concept is still accurate. I don't care if the concept is accurate. That concept has to be built if you're going to apply it to yourself, build it off another verse, because Isaiah fifty four ten does have a stinking thing to do with you. It's about Israel. Isaiah forty through fifty five is about Israel, who are Judah, to be specific, and Babylonian captivity. That's what it's about. Can't the Church ever figure it out?

34:24 I don't think there's any hope because the Church likes Jesus junk and t shirt theology, and that's not going to ever change. Christians talk a big game that they want something different. No, they don't. They like nice little three point sertmons. They like everything simple. They don't like complication, difficulty. They don't want to do theology, they don't want to do hermoneutics. They just pick a theological team and they just want what that team says regurgitated to them Sunday after Sunday, and a nice little travel package, and then they want the shirt, the hat, and they just that's what they want, all right, Thanks for listening. If you see someone wearing an Isaiah fifty four ten shirt, just shake your head and I don't know what you say.

35:20 You can ask them, hey, tell me about Isaiah fifty four ten, Tell me about it. Tell me about it. Anytime you see someone in anywhere, anywhere wearing Christian merchandising and they have a verse on the shirt, to ask them, tell me about the verse. What's the context there, what's it about? Tell me anything and see if they know. If they don't, they'll be They won't may not appear to be, but inside they'll be a little bit embarrassed, and hopefully they'll go home and spend some time actually studying the passage so that they'll never be left. Like, well what do you mean? Because I guarantee someone say, well, this verse is about how God's love will and you'll be like the you and Isaiah fifty four ten is us?

36:00 Where did you go to school to learn hermeneutics? Because that you is not you all right, Thanks for listening. Everyone. Have a great day, great weekend, great night, great life. I'm going to quit again. I'm going to retire again. Every time after I anytime we do anything in Isaiah forty through fifty five, I come to the exact same conclusion. I am literally wasting my time doing any broadcasting about the Bible or theology because it's use. It's a waste of time. It's a way. I could talk about music, I could talk about wrestling, I could talk about comic books, I could talk about a million other things, and I probably would make a bigger difference. But the Christian merchandise will keep on selling and people will keep on buying. Everyone.

36:50 Have a great night. God bless