Feb. 14, 2025

I Found the Amish Where?

I Found the Amish Where?
I Found the Amish Where?
Theology Central
I Found the Amish Where?

A discussion about where I found the Amish.

A discussion about where I found the Amish.

0:02 Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central. Good afternoon, everyone. It is Friday, February the fourteenth, twenty twenty five. It is currently three point fifty six pm Central Time, and I am coming to you live from the Theology Central studio located right here in Abilene, Texas. I was getting a little distracted right there, because right as I was speaking, I get this notification for some podcast. I'll have to go back and look at it says proper distinction between law and Gospel, and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what is that? Who's talking about the proper distinction between long and gospel. I have to go find out what podcast that was. I need to go find it right now because we're always talking about the proper distinction between long gospel.

0:52 But I apologize I was getting distracted as I was saying welcome everyone, Good afternoon. At everyone. It is Friday, February the fourteenth, twenty twenty five. It is now three point fifty six pm Central time, and I'm coming to you live from the Theology Central studio located right here in Abilene, Texas. Question in your life how many times have you encountered someone who was Amish? How many times have you encountered the Amish in your life? How many times? Is that a frequent thing? How did you encounter them? Did you speak to them? Did you get a chance to talk to them? What do you know about the Amish?

1:37 Is it just like you've seen them on maybe a movie or a television show. You've heard about the Amish, but you don't really know much about them. Do you know their history? What do you know about the Amish? Now, I'm just going to be very clear here. I grew up basically in Buffalo Gap, Texas. I was born in Albilene, Texas, but then I moved in most of my childhood teen years, rest of my childhood, all the way up as to you know, as a young adult, I grew up in Buffalo Gap, Texas. Population at that time was maybe what two hundred people, two hundred and twenty two hundred and thirty people, very small little town, Buffalo Gap, Texas. Yes, that's where I grew up. Let me tell you. There were not any Amish anywhere to be found. There was none.

2:28 There was none nowhere. I did not run into any Amish. I did not see them on their horse and buggy. I did not encounter them. I didn't talk to them. I did not have anything to do with them. I not zero. But I know other people who have known, other people who were born and raised in other parts of the country talking about that. Yeah, they've run into the Amish, talk with them, done business dealings with them, had them, hired them to do this or to do that, And it's always like, oh, okay, that's interesting. But for me, it's like I've heard of the Amish, but never any no real I mean no encounter, not just no real, zero encounter with anyone who is Amish. Now, for those who don't know, the Amish are a Christian group known for their traditional beliefs, simple living, and separation from modern society.

3:21 They are part of the Anabaptist movement and originated in Europe during the sixteenth century. They are part of the Anabaptist movement. Okay, now, I've studied the Anabaptist, so we can get into a lot of people say, okay, the Anabaptist and try to draw a lineage to their particular group. Okay, so that's kind of their origin. Again, They're known for their traditional beliefs, simple living, and their separation from modern society. And that's why many people have never encountered the Amish, because they live these separated lives. They reject modern society. They are a part of the Anabaptist movement. So if you ever study the Anabaptist movement, then you'll learn a little bit about the Amish. They originated in Europe during the sixteenth century. So what are some of the key beliefs.

4:13 What are some of the key practices of the Amish, Just in case you don't know, or just to get kind of an overview, all right, Separation from the world, that's a key belief The Amish believe in living a life separate from modern society to avoid worldly temptations and to maintain spiritual purity. We've got to withdraw. We got to stay away because we have to avoid temptation. We have to maintain spiritual purity. Now, from a thilological perspective, I'm already somewhat in disagreement with this, because the issue isn't the bad people out there, all of you who are Amish. You can't avoid spiritual impurity by staying away from the world. Because the spiritual impui already is inside the camp, it's inside the house, it's inside of you, all right. But that way of thinking has infiltrated, infiltrated the minds of most Christians to some level. Oh, don't do this, don't stay away from that, stay away from that, because the bad is always seen as being out there. No, the bad is in here. The bad that I need to avoid isn't what's on Netflix or in this song, or in this movie or in this book. I don't need to ban it, censor it, burn it. No, I'm the problem. All the impurity, all of the corruption is inside of us, and it's been there since conception, all right.

5:44 So that's their one of their beliefs. Second, adult baptism. Baptism is reserved resort. I can't read today. Baptism is reserved for adults who make a conscious commitment to the faith, typically occurring between the ages of eighteen and twenty two. So adult baptism would be another key belief of the Amish. Now number three, we could get into a discussion about this, right, this is somewhat interesting, and maybe we could have a thiological and let me make it very clear, I am by no means I want to make it very clear. When it comes to a lot of philological things, I can say, Okay, I think I know this. I can be somewhat dogmatic, I can be somewhat assertive. I can be somewhat dogmatic and assertive about many things within Catholicism because I wanted to be able to speak on it from a position of knowledge, not one of ignorance. That's why I enrolled in a Catholic university, pursuing a degree in Catholic theology, so that I could be better acquainted with it. So many different areas of theology have dedicated a lot of time so that I can be knowledgeable.

6:54 When it comes to the Amish, I'm no real can't be dogmatic about anything because a lot of it I just don't know. But according to at least artificial intelligence, Amish salvation through faith and works. While faith in Christ is essential, the Amish emphasizes living out their faith through obedience to God's commands and the communities or the community set of rules. Now I don't know how to say this word, but these set of rules I think are referred to as or none or none. It's O R D N U n G or none or nung. I don't know exactly how to say it. O R D n U n G. I've not even looked up what these these rules are or this. It's kind of like a how to an order that you have to follow, I think typically. But just that's kind of interesting that it's just described as salvation through faith and works. Now, if it's a works based salvation the ladies and gentlemen, this is not like I just disagree with them because they avoid society or they avoid ever. You know, they're gonna drive around in a horse and buggy like. No, this would be more of a philological division. If works are involved in their salvation, and I'm not going to be a dogmatic or assertive on that until I do

8:26 much further research. That's a problem. Well, that would be a I think that would be a big problem. Right next, Community and mutual aid. The Amish people are. The Omnish place high value on community mutual aid in helping one another, especially in times of need. An example would be a barn raising, which you typically see like on television or a movie. Now, this one, I am very familiar with nonviolence and pacifism. The Omnish are committed to pacifism, refusing military service and avoiding violence and any form. Very much familiar with that only because of my kind of just war theory, and very much more moving to believing I'm more a passif I have pacifistic tendencies, you said, say in many cases because I believe scriptures like you love your enemy, turned the other geek, resist not evil. There's kind of a pacifistic mindset in some of that. So when you start looking into church history, well, the Omnish show up as well, and some some Anabaptists as well would show up with this pacifistic mindset. Okay, not all Well, we can get into what happened in Germany with some of the Anabaptists, but okay, all right. Next, submission in humility. Humility, simplicity, and submission to God and church authority and each other are central to their faith. So humility, simplicity, and submission, that submission goes to God, church authority, each other. Right.

9:58 So that's those are some of the key beliefs. Separation, adult baptism, salvation through faith. I'm just going to say possibly works because I'd have to really get into exactly what they mean by that. But if it's a workspace system, then ladies and gentlemen, it's not the true gospel. Community and mutual aid, nonviolence and pacifism, submission, and humidity and humility. Now, what are some of the key practices Plane living and dress. The omnish wear plane modest clothing without patterns or any kind of you know, anything that would be that you would make it look nicer or anything along those lines.

10:40 All right. They want to reflect humility and avoid pride in their dress. So it's very modest, no patterns, very plain. All right, yeah, I could, I could probably describe it in other ways, but you get the basic idea. So a key practice is plain living and dress. Number two limited use of technology. They reject most modern technologies such as electricity, cars, telephones, and their homes, though some groups may allow certain technologies for business purposes like generators or maybe a community phone. All right, so they they basically reject modern technology. Keep that in mind. Number three horse drawn transportation. Buggies are used in a set of cars, reflecting their commitment to a simpler way of life. Right then you have the ordnan or the ordina, however you pronounce this. This is a set of unwritten rules that govern all aspects of life, from clothing to technology, and to technology used to social behavior. So I guess it's a set of unwritten rules. I was getting ready, I was gonna look it up. Hey, let's look this up.

11:44 O R D N U N G. Let me get a copy of the book so that I know these rules. I guess these are a set of unwritten rules that govern all aspects of life. If you're gonna have rules that govern all aspects of life, why wouldn't they be That seems kind of weird to me, all right, So like you would want them like print it out and everybody gets a copy and you have to review it each year and sign off that you did your annual review. I mean, it's rules that govern every aspect of life, clothing, technology, to the use, from clothing to technology used to social behavior itself. Right, then, they also, in their practice have this to have a period during adolescence when omnius youth are allowed to experience the outside world before deciding whether to commit to the church through baptism. So you reach a certain age where you're like, okay, you can go now encounter the outside world. Go go and then there during that time, they decide whether they're going to commit to the church through baptism or if they're not. That's kind of a kind of a cool thing in some ways, right, Hey, you've grown up in this, You've been kept away from everything.

13:02 We've kept you away from the bad, evil world. We kept you away from all of that impurity. Now go and experience the world. Go and see if that's what you want or if this is what you want. Now. I don't know how well that works out for them psychologically or like, I don't know how that. I think there was a reality television show about omnistion and some of this. I don't remember the name of it, because I mean I didn't I wasn't interested. But I remember at least seeing I think parts of some episodes of it. I just don't remember everything about it. So there's this period, and next they have a that we would basically call it shunning, a form of church discipline where baptized members who break church rules and refuse to repent are avoided socially until they reconcile with the community. So basically you're put out. It's almost like a form of excommunication. But I think it goes beyond just the church, It goes to the entire community. You're shinned by the entire community.

14:03 All right, Next, Now, this one is interesting. This one makes me a little sad. Actually, this would be very one. This one would would make me very depressed. Education omnus children typically attend one room schoolhouses until eighth grade, focusing on practical education rather than higher academic learning. Says, you only go to school till eighth grade, and it's not a pursuit of academic learning. That sounds depressing, That sounds that would keep you very How does that work for hermeneutics and theology Bible interpretation? I mean that that sounds very do the do some people get access to the education and some don't. That would be very much a power and balance. I don't know that. There's a lot of problems I would have with that. Manual labor and self sufficiency and farming, car and try and other manual trades are highly valued, emphasizing hard work and self reliance.

15:07 So there's a little bit about the Omnish kind of a definition their key beliefs and their key practices. Now, remember I've never met, never stumbled upon, never encountered the Omnish, have you all right? So I was curious, so I asked Ai because I was curious. I'm like, Hey, if someone is going to encounter the Omnish, the Amish, not the Omnish, the Amish, it's most likely to happen, and where is it going to happen? And AI said, if you're going to encounter the Amish, I keep wanting seeing the Omnish the Amish, It's most likely going to happen in specific regions and through certain types of inner actions.

15:52 Here's what AI told me. Where you're most likely to encounter the Amish, not the Omnish, the Amish. Pennsylvania, Lancaster County is one of the most well known Amish settlements, attracting many tourists. I've heard that countless times. Hear that all the time. All right, never been to Pennsylvania, may have flown over it, but have never been to Pennsylvania. Ohio, all right, then it named some different places in Ohio has one of the largest Amish populations, Holmes County, and it named some different places, all right. Indiana names a couple of places in Indiana have significant Amish communities. You have two counties there in Indiana. Other states, Amish communities can be found in parts of Wisconsin, Michigan, Iowa, Missouri, and Kentucky. Now that the one place I would have been to at least somewhat frequently when I lived in Nebra, when I was stationed there in the military, was Iowa.

17:03 But I don't think it, even when all the times in Iowa, I don't think I ever encountered the Amish. I don't think I ever did. If I do, there's no memory of it, Okay, right, So then, hey, I said, here's how you might encounter them. Tourism and local markets. Many Omish communities have market shops or roadside stands selling homemade furniture, quilts, bake goods, produce, and other handmade items. Tours of Amish farms and communities are also popular in Lancaster County road travel, you may encounter Amish families traveling by horse and buggy, especially in areas with large Amish populations. Or you may encounter them through some kind of a business transaction. You may encounter them through somehow farmers market or a craft's fair. You may encounter them in some kind of a specialized Amish store, or you may encounter them in some kind of seasonal event. Auctions, horse sells, and community fairs, and Amish areas often attract both Amish families and non Amish visitors. It says, typically Amish people are private and reserve. They often engage with non Amish or English as they call outsiders in business settings, markets, in certain public spaces. However, they tend to keep to their social They keep their social lives and religious practices within their own community. So I'm like, okay, So then where am I most likely not going to run into Amish other than Buffalo Gap, Texas? Because I know I'm

18:34 not going to run into them to as far as I know. Again, there could be somewhere and I don't know. I'm clearly acknowledging, you know, obviously I'm not. I don't have an insight to everywhere they are. Well, it says, most likely you're not going to run to them in urban areas large cities. They tend to avoid fast paced technology, technologically driven environments of like New York, Los Angeles, or Chicago. Typically you're not going to find them in airports and public transportation, since the Omnis do not travel by plane and generally avoid modern transportation. You won't find them unless they have to be there for some extreme reason. You're not going to find them in entertainment venues like movie theaters, concerts, sports arenas, and amusement parks because they were avoided by Amish due to their beliefs and simplicity and avoiding worldly distractions, you will not find them. And technologically centric spaces. Amish avoid most modern technology, so you're not going to find them in a place around centered around tech, internet cafes, electronic stores, or tech expos Now, this one again makes me sad higher education institutions. Amish education ends at eighth grade, and higher education is discouraged, making college campuses an unlikely place to find them. That's sad. That's sad to me.

19:56 That's sad. Your education stops in eighth grade. Do you know how many things then you're not going to understand, You're not even going to be able to begin to even I mean, I just don't. I mean, and I'm just looking at forget. I'm not even looking at it from like history or medicine or economy. I'm not worried about any other academic pursuit. I'm just thinking from a philological perspective, If your educate education ends in eighth grade, how are you going to even attempt to take apart the scriptures, expound them, and understand them all of the philological issues. Like it just seems like your your your pursuit or your understanding of scripture is going to be greatly limited. You need further education. I don't know, I just may maybe I don't know. Maybe maybe I'm thinking of it. I don't know, I don't know. Maybe there's another way to look at it. You're most likely not going to find them in military installations, says Pacifists and reject Violence. They do not serve in the United States military, making military basis and related facilities places you're not likely to find them. Okay, Well, I spent most of my adult life on a military installation, so that would that would probably make sense. You're not going to find them at luxury resorts or hotels, and you're not going to find them in night life and social clubs. Okay. So essentially, any place that represents any modern aspect of life, you're not going to find the Amish. You're not going to

21:27 find them. So how did I stumble upon the Amish. Or was it around two three four in the morning, I don't know. It was around two three four in the morning I stumbled upon the Omish. I don't remember the exact hour, but it was in the early morning hours. I stumbled upon the Omnish. No, Amish, it wasn't. I keep wanting to put an in there. I keep wanting to put an in there. I don't know why I want to put an in there. It's Amish. See it's the West Texas thing there, okay, Amish. No, it wasn't that. I was awake at three four in the morning and decided, hmm, I'm hungry, I need I need something. And I got up, got dressed, got in my car, drove to a you know, a convenience store that's opened twenty four to seven, and decided to you know, get something something, And there comes walking in the Amish. And then in the parking lot.

22:19 We sit there and had this long conversation about life, doctrine and theology. No, and they told me stop putting it in and the word amish, it's it's not omnish, it's amish. No, they didn't say. There was no encounter like that. I was looking around on the sermons two point oh app on the sermons two point oh app and I found Messiah Amish Minnonite Church and I was like what Messiah Amish Mennonite Church. So I looked at it and I'm like, wait, what is this?

23:10 What is this? Okay? And I'm like, okay, wait, So here's so. They have a site again, it's a Messiah Amish Mennonite Church charm Ohio, So Ohio. That makes sense. They're in Ohio. They have a phone number. They have a phone number three three zero eight nine three three one seven to one. I mean, it's right there on the website. I'm not giving away, I'm not offering anything that's private. It's right there on the website. And I'm like, wait, So they have a website, They're on sermon audio, they record their sermons digitally, they upload them, and they have a phone number.

23:51 What is I'm like, what is going on here? This makes no sense. I'm like, I am so confused. I want you to go look it up right now. If you if you're using the Sermon's two point oh app or if you're going to the sermon audio website, look for Messiah Amish Mennonite Church, Messiah Amish Mennonite Church. That's all all to Messiah Amish Mennonite Church. And I was like, what is this. They have a list of their of their you know, sermons, they use the KJV. Now I'm curious because if Amish typically believe in us salvation by works, that already confused me a little bit. Now, so this is what happened. I just kept looking at it like what.

24:38 I started listening to the sermon. I'll play one of them. I'll just start playing one of the sermons. Welcome to each one that is here, and we greet you in Jesus' name, Home, folks, and we have a good amount of visitors here this morning. We're delighted that you've chosen to join us this morning. We don't know your names, but God does. But we want you to feel free to worship our great God this morning. For a text turned to the Old Testament, to the Book of Isaiah, chapter forty three. My prayer to God this week was Lord, what would you have for your people to hear? And what for me as well? What is my need? This message this morning is it's it's kind of twofold one. It's an message of encouragement. Secondly, it is a message of a reaffirmation of some a foundational truth that every believer in Christ needs to be settled on.

25:51 Now. One, I don't know what kind of microphone they're using, but it sounds like they could possibly increase their technology. Number two, So even when it comes to the Amish, even when it comes to the Amish Mennonite Church, they do the same thing with Isaiah forty three that everyone else does. Hey, Hey, God, what do you what do I need to hear? And it's somehow Isaiah forty three, Isaiah forty three is about us, is about us us? Immediately who's was inserted it? I Oh, so we're gonna have to review that. We're gonna have to review that. But of course I saw a sermon on Isaiah and I was like, Oh, here we go. But I had no clue until I looked. I'm like, wait, this is Amish. They're on the internet. I was baffled by it, right, So I took a screenshot of it. I took a screenshot of it, and I just gave it. I gave this to I uploaded it to AI. This is what AI says. This seems a bit unusual. It says an Amish Mennonite church having sermons on sermon audio. Phil's unexpected given the tradedditional technology averse stance of the Amish. However, it does say this Amish Mennonite tend to be more open to modern technology compared to old order Amish communities. Still, seeing this combination can be surprising, and an AI says, does this seem strange to you? And I said to A,

27:25 I was thinking, wait, Amish have a sermons online and they have a phone number. AI said, that definitely stands out. The Amish are known for shunning most modern technologies, including phones and the internet, but Amish Mennonites are somewhat different. They often embrace some modern convenience while still holding to traditional values. Even so, seeing sermons online and a public phone number for any Amish related group is surprising. It's an interesting blend of old world faith and modern outreach rights. So even AI was a little bit like, wait, that's an Amish. It's I say, I wanted to say Omnish Amish, and I'm like, I don't get it. So I want I wanted you to know that it's there. I want you to go check it out. I've never heard have you ever heard any preaching from the Amish? I don't.

28:21 I think I've heard some preaching from Mennonite. But now you get the combination Amish Mennonite, and again it is called Messiah Amish Mennonite Church. Now what have we learned when we learned some of the origin. We've learned some of their key beliefs, We've learned some of their key practices. We've learned, I say, what else did we cover? What else? We so we learned, we got a definition, We've got the key beliefs, we've got the key practices. And we looked at some places where we may encounter them and some places where we may not encounter them. And we talked about how I encountered them. I did not encountered them by driving down the road going why is there a horse and buggy in the middle of the highway?

29:05 Could you move over? What is going on here? No? I didn't encounter them that way. I didn't encounter them at a farmer's market. I didn't encounter them at you know, looking at maybe something they built or carpentry or would work or No, none of that. I encountered them at what two three, four in the morning on a website where they had uploaded their sermons that they recorded digitally, Like, what how is this even going on? Right? But they have their messages there, I can't currently follow them because sermons two point zero app still has a limit? What is up with that? Guys? It's twenty twenty five? Which podcasting app name one? Where you're like, oh, you can't follow any more people? You can't subscribe to any more podcasts?

29:51 That's the number? Come on, right? And if it's I think it's like currently set at thirty two? Coo, at least make it an one hundred or make it fifty, Like, just at least make it fifty. I mean, that's not that much, right. So. I'm hoping at some point we'll get an update and we'll get that'll that'll go away. But I don't know if they stream live. I don't know if they stream live. I don't know if they just upload their messages or if they stream live. That would be interesting. And do they do video? Wait, I'm hang on, let me look here, let me go back. I can tell you if they do video, I can tell you in just a second. No these oh wait, no, there is video. Well it's a wedding, but they do they do have a video camera. Okay, hang on, yeah, here it is, Yeah, there it is.

30:46 There's the there they are, there's the homish and they have Yeah, they have a video camera. So they have a video camera. They'll bloat. They are obviously recording things digitally. They have a website and they have a phone number. Now you may not find it that unusual, you may not even find it that interesting, but I wanted to at least just let everyone know so that you can go check it out. So now you know what we're going to We're not going to do it right now because this already took thirty minutes. But they have a message. Now.

31:26 They got two messages that I think could be of great interest to us. First, they have one called perfect Love cast out Fear. Now that could really challenge my hypotheses, right, because that would mean if I have perfect love, then I can cast out all fear. But can I ever have perfect love? And if I can't have perfect love, then I can never cast out fear unless the perfect love that I need to cast out fear is when I'm in Christ, who had perfect love. Ooh, that could get interesting. So that's found in First John chapter four. You'll see that when it's called the perfect Love cast out fear. I think that's the original sermon. Maybe I stumbled upon I think maybe I stumbled upon that one first, So we definitely want to listen to that. And then the second one is called the Fourth Man, The Fourth Man Isaiah forty three. Oh, now you've got my attention that they put the bait on the hook. They don't realize this. They threw it out and they started ruling it in, and I was like, I had that Isaiah Isaiah.

32:27 There's a sermon between Isaiah forty eight. Oh, I've got to hear this. I gotta hear this. So you know, we're going to have to review it. So maybe we'll review it tomorrow. Maybe we'll make it a priority to review it tomorrow. I'm already worried because we already saw what they did, right, they immediately made it about us. Oh, what is that ever going to say? But at the same time, if they follow the rule that you stop all education in the eighth grade, do the pastors have any formal philological training past the eighth grade? Say that's what's now maybe the religious leaders get to have more education, but then you have an imbalance between the religious leaders and the people. So then the people would be in a position then could they really challenge the religious leaders.

33:11 That seems like a possible problematic situation in my mind. That's just me thinking. I'm just thinking out loud, just a stream of consciousness. I mean, look, I was seeing Omnish forever. It's Amish, right, So you don't have to listen to me. That's even with more than an eighth grade education, right, Okay, So my concern is though, if let's say, if all that they don't have anything, I mean, well, if you keep going to church, you're getting more education than this the eighth grade. Right. So I'm struggling exactly how to understand that. But if there's a limited amount of education to some limits, to some part, then when if they take Isaiah forty three and completely just destroy it hermaneutically and philologically, do you view that differently than well, these churches where the people have access to all the technology, they have AI, they have commentaries, they have the internet, they have everything. They can go to school as long as they want, as much as they want, when they slaughter Isaiah, who I would get more. I would get less frustrated with the Amish than I would if if the Amish men and I follow that rule. I don't know if they even follow that rule, but if they follow that rule, I'd be like, Okay, well, see this kind of proves what you get when you don't pursue education.

34:31 But all these other churches, and we've were well over one hundred sermons. Now, of all these other sermons with and pastors with far more education, they do the same thing to Isaiah forty forty one, forty two, forty three, forty four fifty So then education didn I think the maybe the lesson we learn here is you can have access to all the technology and access to all the education. It's of no value one if if you only pursue education that only agrees with your limited theological mindset framework. We pursue education and learn to deal with the text irregardless if it agrees or disagrees with our theological framework.

35:13 Our theology should not govern how we understand the text. But for some weird reason, everyone thinks Isaiah forty three fifty five is about us. I mean, that's what we heard immediately I pray, God, what do what should we hear this week? And obviously Isaiah forty three was the answer. And this is something every Christian needs to know. Who wha wha whoa whoa whoa whoah? How did we even get involved in the text? This is what the people in Babylonian captivity needed. So but again, it's almost like if the Amish Amish gets it wrong, I'm more like, hmm, okay, I can kind of accept it, right, But everyone else I'm kind of like, what is wrong? What is wrong with you? What are you doing? I mean, you've got a phone. Five seconds of Google searching should make you go.

36:07 I think maybe we're handling this text incorrect. But yeah, there you have it. I just wanted to let you know that earlier this morning I stumbled upon the Amish Amish. I thought, you're not supposed to be out past midnight. Okay, I don't know if that's a rule or not. I'm just joking, right, okay, but hey, you're out wandering around at three o'clock in the morning. I mean, come on, we got to stop meeting like this. Okay, No, but I just was kind of shocked that was there. But I'm really interested. Obviously Amish Mennonite. I mean they're on Sermonnadio.

36:49 They had to sign the Statement of faith, so they have to believe in salvation by grace apart from works. I mean, obviously they is this like, is there? Yeah? How many things of the when you merge the Amish and the Mennonite, are you? Do you get something? Should you change the name from Amish Mennonite to almost it becomes something it's not really Amish, it's not really Mennonite, it's something other doesn't need a new name. I don't know, all right, I wanted you to hear that, and I do apologize, and I'm gonna go back and listen. I bet you I said omnish multiple times. I bet you I did. I'm gonna be really mad at myself, going to be really mad at myself. If I'm looking at the word it's I mean, it's there's no end Amish.

37:44 If I don't look at the word, I just probably because I've only used the word maybe a few times in my entire life. It wasn't like, hey, did you see the Omnish today? Like I was, No, I never forgive it much thought. I've read about them here or there. But I mean again, I already told you I never like, this is not an area where I'm like, I'm going to become an expert on the history of the Amish and their theology, and especially if they believed in a salvation by works, then I would just a minute like they're not a they're outside of orthodox Christianity, and would have moved on. Right, So all right, go listen, Go listen and tell me what you think. We're going to review some of those, right, We're going to review. We got to review those two. I mean, come on, I got to one. I just want to hear a full sermon from their perspective. And second, I got to know what they did with Isaiah forty three and that first John four That raises some serious questions about my hypothesis, So I definitely want to have that challenged. All Right, everyone have a great Valentine's Day evening. See what else is going on. There are some webcasts Current christ Reformation Church is currently broadcast. I doubt there's going to be very any more webcast the rest of the evening. I think we're probably wrapping it all up for the rest of the evening. If you look at the trending hashtags today on the sermon's two point oh app is Jesus, Gospel, Christ, Faith, God, Salvation, Grace, Bible,

39:18 Church love. So love is still. I don't know how often they upload it, and they are. The recent hashtags is authority, sovereign, open doors, shut, slander, examine yourself, who send, tell, bear, whisper stories, hurt, gossiping, and proof so. And if we want to look at the newest sermons, the newest sermons right now is the newest one, the one at the very top, a Living Sacrifice Romans twelve one through two. Oh, I bet you would have a disagreement on that one, don't you think. All Right, our law ish hearts his lavish heart. That sounds interesting. That's a one, two, three, four five down, our law ish hearts, law ish his lavish heart. I'm gonna go save that one right now.

40:20 That sounds interesting. I'm gonna I'm going on, I'm gonna copy that, go paste it in my notes. That sounds interesting, all right, I definitely want to hear that. I'm gonna go down here and paste it at the bottom. All right, it's saved, all right, that's what's going on on the app. I don't know what you've got planned for this evening. Have a great evening, a great weekend. And hang on, I'm gonna check something really quick and yeah, that's it everyone. Have a great, great night. God bless