Oct. 8, 2024
How The World Sees The Church
How does the world see the Church?
How does the world see the Church?
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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is
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the Theology Central podcast, making Theology Central, Ladies and gentlemen.
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It is twenty eight days, seven hours, forty three minutes
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and fifty one seconds until the twenty twenty four presidential election.
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Let me say that again. It is twenty eight days,
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seven hours, forty three minutes and now thirty seven seconds
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until the twenty twenty four presidential election. Now you may
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say I don't care, I don't vote, I don't care
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to vote, I don't care about politics, and I completely
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understand because I hate politics and I don't vote. I
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can't stand anything about the entire process. But here's the question.
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With the election being twenty eight days, seven hours, forty
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three minutes and now eight seconds away, here's the question. Politics,
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the coming election, the consequences after the election, everything about
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the presidential election, everything about politics. Has it dramatically impacted
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how the world sees the church. That's what we're going
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to talk about right after this. Good afternoon everyone. It
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is Monday, October seventh, twenty twenty four. It is currently
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five seventeen pm Central Time, and I am coming to
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you live from the Theology Central studio. Located right here
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in Albilene, Texas. And please let me state that again.
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I'm coming to you live from the Theology Central Studio,
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not Republican you know headquarters, not the Democratic headquarters. Not
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from any political party, no political affiliation, no political allegiance
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I have. I have no allegiance to any political party.
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I can't stand any of it. I despise all of it.
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And you know what I despise the most is when
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politics finds its way into the church. I can't stand it.
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I despise it. I feel it's I feel it's just
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wrong in every way, shape or form. I can't stand
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when church is just not five minutes from my house,
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five minutes. If I was to get in my car,
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drive out of my neighborhood, get to the stop sun
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at the end of the street, turn right, maybe two
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minutes a minute up the road. If that on the
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left hand side, there is a very very very very
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very large church. I mean it's it's I mean hundreds
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upon hundreds upon hundreds of people probably maybe even a
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thousand people could probably fit inside the building. It's gigantic, right,
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and guess what is outside? All over its property, all
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of these signs to vote Republican, vote for Trump, vote
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for Ted Cruz, vote vote, vote vote. It's just it
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looks like a I don't know, like the Republican Party.
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Back to truck up and put nine hundred signs right
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there on the church property. And I'm like the church.
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When people drive by, they don't see a church, they
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don't see Christ. They see a political party. And if
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I go down about another five minutes down the road,
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there's another very large church that has a campus on
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this side of town and on the other side of town.
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And guess what they have in front of their church,
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all these signs again from the Republican Party, the Republican Party,
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the Republican Party. So if anyone was to drive down
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this street, they would drive past two very large churches,
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and you know what, they would see politics. They wouldn't
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see a church that preaches Christ. They see a church
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preaching political affiliation, political identity. I am sick of that.
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How does the world see the church? That is what
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we're going to talk about, because we're now twenty eight days,
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seven hours, forty minutes and one second until the twenty
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twenty four presidential election, and I wish, I wish I
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could say, hey, once the election happens, this will all
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be over, ladies and gentlemen. It'll be over. The political
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division will be over, the everyone finding their identity and
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a political party will be over. All of the misinformation
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disinformation will be over. The church will just go back
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to the church being a church. I wish I could
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say that. I can't say any of that. I can't
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say any of that because I know it's not true.
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I think what we're going to see moving forward is
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the church is going to become more political, more political,
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and more political, and it's going to drive more and
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more people away from the Cross because they are sick
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and tired of the politics. That is my feeling. You
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may disagree, but that's what we're going to talk about.
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And the way and the reason we're going to talk
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about this is kind of actually kind of interesting. So
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today I was like, okay, I wasn't able to record
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at the time. I didn't feel like I could do
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a live broadcast or anything. So I'm like, well, I
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need to I need to listen to something. I mean,
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it's the twenty twenty four you know, Sermon's two point
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oh sermon Challenge, So I need to listen to a
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sermon today, and I started looking and I saw one
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entitled How's your Heart? How's your Heart? And I'm like, oh, okay,
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wait a minute. We just did a long broadcast a
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couple of days ago talking about the heart the nature. Okay,
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well this is going to talk about how's your heart?
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Maybe this will add some kind of discussion about is
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the heart the same thing as the nature? Is it separate?
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Is it different? Do we have a new heart, old heart?
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All of those types of questions. And I'm like, okay,
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let me start listening. And I kind of like, well,
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he's kind of I'm saying I think maybe. And it
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was kind of getting frustrated because it's getting right back
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into all of the just confusion and how confounding that
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subject really is when you start listening to sermons. So
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I was like, Okay, this is not really going anywhere.
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Oh okay, I'm just gonna stay with it. I'm gonna
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stay with it and see where this goes. And then
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all of a sudden, about twenty minutes into the sermon,
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maybe twenty five minutes into the sermon, he ends up
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in He ends up in First Samuel, and then he
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reads a phrase in first Samuel, and I'm like, oh,
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oh wow, that's what's happened. That describes the church today,
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that describes the church. This is awesome. So then I,
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even though that may not have been his obviously was
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not his major major thesis, It wasn't his major point,
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I was like, well, let me grab the audio. So
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I grabbed the audio, and I'm like, I'm just gonna
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play this short section and then I'm gonna use is
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to talk about how does the world see the church,
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especially in light of politics, especially in light of well
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twenty eight days, seven hours, thirty six minutes, and fifty
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four seconds away from the twenty twenty four presidential election.
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How does that fact impact how the world sees the church?
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So again, this sermon is not about that that I'm
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getting ready to play this clip from. But he's gonna
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make a point now to me, I wish he would
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have just made this his entire sermon, but he makes
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the point. He's going somewhere else. But we're just gonna
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take this one point and I'm really really going to
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dig into it, and we're gonna have hopefully an interesting
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conversation about it. So are you ready? All right? He's
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talking about David, he's talking about Saul, he's talking about heart.
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So you're gonna hear a little bit of that, but
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just listen carefully because he's going to describe how the
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people quote unquote the people of God, how they're being
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described by their enemy. Listen, here we go.
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The refused heart can be concealed. Number two, The refused
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heart is cowardly. Go to chapter seventeen with me, please,
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Now what has happened. Sau has put his battle in array.
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We're gonna put King Sau in the armies of Israel
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for the sake of the object lesson tonight. We're gonna
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put them in the choir loft. The Philistines, their hated enemies,
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have put their battle in array, and we're gonna put
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them in that balcony back there where the PA is
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not picking on the PA guy, but most people think
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that the PA guys are Philistines anyway. All right now,
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my MIC's gonna go mute here in just a second.
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He's gonna get me bad. We're gonna put him back there,
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just for the object Lesson. In between is the Valley
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of Ela, and there is a brook there. They're ready
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to go into battle, and all of a sudden, before
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they can go into battle, and you've heard this story
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all your life, outcomes a giant of a man by
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the name of Goliath.
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He is of the region of goth He.
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Walks down in the valley and he begins number one,
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to blaspheing God. Number two, he begins to challenge the
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children of Israel, choose you a.
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Man that we may fight together.
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If I defeat him and kill him, then shall you
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be our servants. But if he defeat me and kill me,
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then we shall we be your servants. He says, let's
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go ahead and have a fight, right now, send me
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down someone to fight me. First observation about his speech,
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and we'll read it here in just a moment. The
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first observation about his speech is, when did the children
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of Israel get together and have a vote and make
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Goliath the commander in chief of the armies of Israel?
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Siper the harper?
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What are you trying to say? Well, you have to
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understand a little bit about me. When I was young,
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I was what some of lovingly and graciously called a
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smart elek. All right, are you familiar with that? Some
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of you have probably described some of your kids and grandkids.
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That way, I was a smart elec. At least that's
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what I was told.
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I found if you ever asked an adult a question
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they couldn't answer, there was going to be a meeting
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with your parents because you were a smart elec. So oftentimes,
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by the way, I will tell anybody in the auditorium
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that you're if you're right now being called a smart elek,
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wait till you turn about forty five, because then you're
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just satirical and sarcastic.
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So I had this question.
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Every time I would hear this passage of scripture taught
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on or approached on, I would want to ask the question.
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I would want to bring it up, but I was
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always afraid that my parents would be called in and
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I would face the wrath of my mom or dad
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when I got home because I asked a smart elec question.
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When did the child of Israel vote for Goliath to
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be the leader of the armies of Israel.
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I'm going to starport right here. I somewhat understand this
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because I think some people think I'm a smart elec.
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I think some people think I'm the same way because
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I will ask these kinds of questions to me, We've
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got to get rid of this idea that you're being
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a smart alec if you ask difficult questions. I think
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in many cases, the Church and Christians don't like difficult questions.
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When you're reading a text and you're like, well, wait
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a minute, who made Goliath leader over Israel? And he said, well,
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why would you ask that question? Read the text? The
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text makes no sense, and there's plenty of te I
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could ask this question about you. Just name the passage
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of scripture. There's almost inevitable that I could be like,
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wait a minute, this makes no sense. You're not supposed
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to say that in church. You're not supposed to ask that.
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All of the conversations we've been having recently about sin
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and how does this work? And a new heart or
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not a new heart? And well you can keep the law,
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well you can't keep the law, but you can't, but
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you can't all of the things Christians say that I
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ask difficult questions. People are like, oh, you're just being
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a jerk, You're just being a smart Like, no, these
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are questions that should be asked when you read the Bible.
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You should ask these kinds of questions. And sometimes so
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I do believe it's young people in the church who
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they learn quickly. You're not supposed to ask these questions.
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You're supposed to just accept whichever narrative they feed you.
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You're just supposed to go, well, that's the way they know.
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It's people can feed you a narrative that's more tradition
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than it is actually text based. Pastors can preach things
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about the text and you're just sitting there, going, what
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in the world are you talking about? There has nothing
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to do. No, but you're not supposed to say that.
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You're just supposed to go along, just go along, go along.
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So I think we need to get rid of this
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idea that asking tough questions about the text makes one
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a smart elec. I think what we have to be
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willing to do is sometimes we have to look at
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the text and go, man, this makes no sense. This
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is just crazy. And I think he raises a good
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point here in this story about Goliath who voted him
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in charge of Israel. What does he mean by that? Well,
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let's listen. This is where we'll get to the part
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that I want to get to. So stay with me.
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But let's at least see I thought this was interesting,
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so what do.
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You mean, brother Harper. Goliath comes down in that valley
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and he says, you send me one man, and the
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child of Israel said, oh, we can only send one.
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Why didn't Saul send three thousand guys down there at
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that moment and chop Goliath into little tiny pieces. Yes,
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he might kill a few of them, he's not gonna
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kill them all. Why did he put two thousand archers
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on either side and send arrows into Goliath so he
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looked like a pincushion by the time they were done.
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Why was it that the children of Israel immediately said, well,
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we've got to do what Goliath said?
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