Aug. 24, 2024

God in our DNA

God in our DNA

We look at a theory about human DNA that was given during a sermon on the book of Romans

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We look at a theory about human DNA that was given during a sermon on the book of Romans

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is

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the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central.

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Good morning everyone. It is Saturday, August twenty fourth, twenty

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twenty four. It is currently nine fifty six am Central Time,

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and I am coming to you live from the Theology

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Central studio located right here in Abilene, Texas. Now, I

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want you to imagine the following scenario. You wake up tomorrow,

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it's Sunday. You tell everyone get ready, we're going to church,

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and everybody's like, yay, we love church. Okay, maybe this

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is a little bit, you know, not true, but okay,

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we love church. And everybody gets ready and you're driving

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to church and everybody's like, y hey, this was great.

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Maybe you stop somewhere to get breakfast on the way there.

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So everyone arrives at church, they're not hungry, they have

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been well fed, they're excited, and everybody runs into church.

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Right.

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Everybody goes somewhere, maybe you have the Sunday school hour.

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Everybody's doing their thing, and then you all come together

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and there you are, sitting in pews if your church

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actually has pews, sitting in pews, sitting in seats, sitting

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and steadium seating, whatever sitting you have, you're all sitting there.

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There's Mommy, there's Daddy, there's little Johnny and little Susie. Okay,

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whatever the situation is, you're sitting there, whether you're an individual,

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whether you have a family, whatever the case may be. Children, no, children,

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doesn't matter. But you're sitting there. And the pastor says,

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all right, open up your Bibles to the Book of Romans.

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And you're like, okay, yeah, we've been in this series

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in Romans. All right, this is great. I've been really

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learning a lot of good theology in the Book of Romans.

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This has been really good. All right. And in his

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kind of introductory material, kind of the introduction to the

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study in Romans, the pastor well gives you sites a

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supposed scientific fact about God and human DNA. He gives

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this scientific fact about God and human DNA. And as

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soon as you hear it, there's a part of you

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you're kind of looking around and everybody else is like amen, Amen,

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and they seem like wow, they think this is the

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greatest thing ever, and they're amazed. You see some people

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writing it down ooh, you know, God is in human DNA,

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And you're like, wait, a minute, you just feel like

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something's not right. So you kind of look around and

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you're like, well, you know, I got my phone here,

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so you kind of grab your phone and you start

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looking up this supposed scientific fact about God in your

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DNA and you start looking and you're like, wait a minute,

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I think this information is bogus. I think this information

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is fraudulent. I think what the pastor just said is bogus,

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fraudulent information. This has been debunked. Now at that moment,

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what do you feel. Do you feel like, well, you know,

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the pastor just didn't look it up. It's no big deal.

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I mean, I know he's standing behind the pulpit. I

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know he just claimed that this is scientific fact even

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though it's fraudulent. I you know, so wid do you

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just kind of just, you know, everyone can get something

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wrong and you're just kind of dismiss it. Or do

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you kind of say, well, wait a minute. If he

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didn't bother to fact check and to verify and to

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research this supposed scientific claim that he just cited as factual,

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if he did not check this out, then why should

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I trust anything else he says about the Book of Romans.

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Does it cause the pastor to lose credibility in your sight?

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And what do you do if your kids are old

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enough to understand what he said? Do when you get

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in the car, do you say, all right, kids, look

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the pastor at the beginning he gave that supposed scientific fact. Well, kids,

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I'm sorry to tell you the pastor was wrong. Well

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how do you handle that? Do you call the master

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later and say, hey, this information was completely fraudulent. How

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do you handle it? How much impact does it have

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on you? Do you even care? Now I'm going to argue,

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and I cannot. I cannot prove this, but I think

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there's a large number of people in the church. They

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just don't care if the information is true or false.

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If it sounds good, they're happy with it. And if

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you point out that the information is fraudulent, they may

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even argue with you. We're seeing that a lot in culture.

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Nobody cares about truth, nobody cares about facts. As long

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as information supposedly agrees with their ideology. Facts no longer matter. Well,

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that may be true in the political realm, that may

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be true in the culture, It should never be true

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inside the church. The church should care about one thing,

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the pursuit of truth, whether we like it or not,

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whether we agree with it or disagree with it, we

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should be willing to have things challenged. Now. I bring

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all of this up because at four thirty am, four

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thirty am this morning, I was like, well, we've been

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working in the Book of Romans, and we're doing this

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going through the entire Book of Romans, looking at every therefore.

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We're gonna go through the entire Book of Romans looking

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at every therefore. And I said that one of the

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things I would do is I would be looking up

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random sermons on the sermons two point zero app and

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dealing with therefore, and I'm a review how they handle

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the their force. Remember, there's about what twenty four twenty eight.

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I don't have the exact number in front of me.

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Their fours in the Book of Romans. I think it'll

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be a fun, an interesting way to kind of get

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us back in the Book of Romans since we've been

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we did what a verse by verse study of the

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Book of Romans for years and now, but we we

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didn't finish it because we took our detour into long Gospel.

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But I'm like, okay, so let me find a sermon.

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So I found one, four thirty in the morning. I

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hit play at about four minutes and thirty seconds into

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the message, the pastor sites this supposed scientific discovery, this

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scientific fact. And as soon as he said the so

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called scientific fact, I was still laying in bed. I

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reached over, grab my iPad and immediately started researching. And

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lo and behold, it seems like that fact may not

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be as factual as sighted now. Most of the time,

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when I do any kind of review, I give the

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name of the pastor and the church because I want

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you to go listen to it. But in this particular case,

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I'm not going to give the name because the goal

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here is not to embarrass or humiliate or anything along

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those lines. What I intend to do here is say, hey,

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here is this claim that I heard at four point

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thirty in the morning. It's posted on the internet. It's

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on the sermon's two point zero app. It's it can

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be heard by anyone. It's public right. The numbers for it.

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If I look at the numbers for it, it has

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been listened to. Let me see if I can find it.

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It's been listened to one hundred and sixty seven times,

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so it's been listened to one hundred and sixty seven times.

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So I mean that's a pretty decent number on the app.

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So I'm like, okay, so this is very this is public,

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this is out there. What I want to do this

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and listen, My goal here is not to contradict the pastor.

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My goal here is not to criticize the pastor. What

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I want to do is challenge the claim of supposed

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scientific fact and say there is there's at least I've

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got multiple sources debunking this. There's YouTube videos where the

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original claim was made by the original person, and underneath there,

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under the comments, it's being ripped into shreds as this is,

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this is pseudoscience, this is just nonsense. And so what

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we're going to do is I want to go after

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the theory. I want to go after the cop and

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the reason I want to go after the theory and

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the concept is because if you hear the theory and

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you hear the concept, you can reject it and you

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can hopefully lovingly correct it. The goal here is not

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so much about the pastor or the church. I don't

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want to do anything to them. What I want to

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do is correct the concept and the theory. Right now,

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I may email them and go, hey, did you know

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that this is all fraudulent and provide all of my research.

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But I'm more concerned about the public who will hear it,

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the public and the reason I'm not so. I used

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to be like email, email, email, But I've emailed pastors

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so many times for fraudulent information, things that are just

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not true in a sermon, and I've never had one

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respond in anything other than being belligerent telling me to basically,

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it's none of my business. And they've never pulled the

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sermon down or apologize for the utter, complete fraudulent information.

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And I've heard some crazy conspiracy theories put forth by

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pastors that are completely debunked. It's just not true. So

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I don't have I maybe I'm jaded, but now you

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know what, I can't worry about other people do, but

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I can try to combat the wrong information. Now what

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I'm going to do, Here's what I'm going to do.

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I'm gonna let We're gonna review the audio so you

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can hear them put forth the theory. Then I'm going

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to put forth the counter argument. Now, you the listener,

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it's up to you to do your own research. It's

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up to you to try to figure out and then

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you can decide whether you agree or disagree with it.

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I think it's problematic at the very least. Or put

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it this way, even if you wanted to buy into

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this scientific theory, right, even if you want to say

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that this is scientific fact, you would have to if

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you're even being remotely fair to your audience. Joe said,

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though you all of you know there are many who

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question this and claim to have debunked. So I believe

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in the theory for these four reasons. Others say that

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this theory is not true for these four reasons. At

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the very best, if you're going to give the theory

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from the pulpit, you have to at least give the

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people the facts about how much this is challenged, so

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that the people in the pew will not be tossed

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to and fro with every wind of doctrine. If they're

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sitting in church being told scientific fact, God is in

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my DNA, and then they out there are claiming that,

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and then someone comes back and throws something in their

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face that they've never heard before that tosses them to

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and fro. The church is to equip saints so that

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they will not be tossed to and fro not giving

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them information that's only going to leave them to being

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tossed to and fro. So at the best, at the

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very least, there should have been a clear discussion of

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wait a minute, not all, not everyone claims this. Now,

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maybe he does. I will play I will go a

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little beyond where he says it, because as soon as

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he starts giving the information, I stopped the audio. So

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for the benefit of the doubt, we will play a

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past what I heard, just to make sure he doesn't

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let everyone know that not everyone believes in this theory.

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I'm hoping that's what he does. But that's that should

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be the very minimum. But then you would have to

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ask yourself, if there's all this questioning this supposed theory,

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then why are you going to give it from the pulpit,

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especially when the goal here is the Book of Romans.

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But you can draw your own conclusion. So I'm not

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going to give the name. I'm not going to give

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the the the I'm not going to give the church

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or anything else. If you're looking up sermons on the

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their fours in Romans, you may come across you may

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come across this one. But if you come across it.

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That's that's between you and you, right, I don't need

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to know, and that's perfectly you know, fine, But I

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want to be fair here and and again I'm going

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after the concept because the concept is not just and discernment.

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The concept is on is all over the internet, right.

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The concept is very well known on the internet, right,

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because this theory emerged in around two thousand and and

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I think it was debunked around twenty ten. I believe so.

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But we will, we will, we will play this out

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and see. But I'm trying to be very I want

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to be very fair because he always get people get

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mad at me. I've got a long history when I

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hear sermons or pastors or Christian ministries putting forth fraudulent information, misinformation,

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wrong information. I you know, I will, I will come

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and say that's just not true. And then and then

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the people get mad at me. It's like, well, why

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are you getting mad at me? I'm the one trying

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to help us get rid of conspiratorial thinking and wild

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speculations and and just basically made up fairy tales. We

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need to be Christians. We again, the biblical concept for

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Christians is we put away lying. We speak the truth.

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We do not engage in gossip and slander and bearing

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false witness. We should be factual, we should be careful.

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We all make mistakes. I understand that, but I also

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know we live in twenty twenty four. You can fact

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check things in five point two seconds. You can get

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you have access to all kinds of information. But there's

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a there's a certain way of thinking that creeps into

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the minds of some Christians, and it's like, well, no,

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this is what I believe in. Any information that calls

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into question what I believe is false news, it's fake news.

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And it's like, no, just because something disagrees with you

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doesn't make it fake news. It may mean that what

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you're holding to is fake, right, So let's pursue this.

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Are you ready? That was a long introduction, But I

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just want to be very because I know people will.

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I know I'm gonna get emails. How dare you call

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this into question? This is absolute factual? But I think

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it's just I think it's fraudulent. Well, I think in

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some ways it's using God's name in vain almost. But

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you can you'll you'll have to draw your own conclusion.

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Here we go, this is what I heard at four

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point thirty in the morning. And remember this was shown

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at random. I didn't go looking for this. I was

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simply looking for a sermon to give me information on

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the there force and see how they were going to

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approach the first Therefore in Romans chapter one, that's what

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I was looking for. I was not looking for some

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scientific theory that I'd never heard before and then have

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to be at four thirty in the morning researching it.

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But here we go. We never know what's going to

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happen on this podcast, right, we never know, but I

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guarantee listening to sermons will always lead us somewhere. So

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here we go. Imagine you're sitting in church tomorrow morning.

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This is what you hear. How would it impact you?

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You may not even care. I obviously care a little

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bit more. We will see. Maybe you're right, maybe I'm right.

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Who knows, let's find out.

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But for the moment, if if you would take your

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Bibles and go with me to Romans chapter one, Now

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here's what's hilarious. I know you're gonna think this is

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really funny. When I originally got started doing this, you know,

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I thought, well, maybe perhaps possibly with as many chapters

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as there is in Romans. You know, the this sixteen

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chapters in Romans. You know, we'll take a chapter a week.

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Then I thought, well, you know, Romans one is thirty

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two verses. You know, it's one of the longer ones

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in the entire book. So you know, maybe you know

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we'll get that one.

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In two weeks.

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three as today, all right, so we're going to We're

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gonna we're gonna wrap up and finish. Looking at Romans

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Romans chapter one in three weeks, I need to learn

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how you do that, because I could not make it

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through Romans chapter one in three months. Okay, I mean,

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in fact, I can probably look and see how long

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it took us to make it through Romans chapter one.

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I think it took us almost six months. It was

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crazy because there's a lot going on there. But okay,

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he's making it through the entire chapter of Romans chapter

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one in three weeks. That means he's typically doing more

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of an overview. He's probably breaking it down into certain segments.

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I found a little bit weird because he kind of

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has the therefore in the part of a section instead

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of the beginning or the ending of a section. Wouldn't

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the therefore mark a division if you're doing an outline.

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I don't want to get sidetracked. We're waiting for the

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so called scientific evidence about God in your DNA. That's

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what we're waiting for.

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Here we go, And we said that Romans won the

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entire chapter. The main theme.

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Of it as a whole is is the ungodliness and

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unrighteousness of men. It has a lot more to say

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about those two factors of mankind than pretty much anything

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else in the chapter other than just the fact that

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it is the opening greeting and all to the entire

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letter written to the church there at Rome. But we

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said the key verses are verse sixteen and seventeen. We

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dealt with those last week. For I am not ashamed

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of the Gospel of Christ. For it is the power

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of God unto salvation to everyone that believeth to the

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jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is

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the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith. As

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it is written, the just shall live by faith. I

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am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ, and the

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just shall live by faith. And so those two verses

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being the key, is not necessarily what the whole chapter

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is about. Though we began to look, we've already dealt

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with basically three divisions within the chapter, Paul's greeting verse

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one to seven, Paul's longing verse eight through verse no

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and then we began to look at God's wrath on

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unrighteousness verse eighteen down to the end of the chapter

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verse Noumber thirty two.

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And my question was verse twenty four. Therefore God also

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gave them up to uncleanliness. Now shouldn't the therefore mark

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either the beginning or the ending of a section that therefore,

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that's a transition, it's a connecting, it's a turning, its

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a it's a transition. Right. So that's interesting how I look.

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I love outlines. I love outlines when it comes to

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Bible study. And I always like I love sometimes I

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put my church, you know, I used to put my

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church on the spot and say, okay, guys, come up

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with an outline. Here we go, and then they would

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start outlining, and I would like, well, what about this,

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or what about this? And what about that? Almost inevitably

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I would disagree with their outlines. Sometimes they would disagree

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with mine. But I'm not saying there's always there's always

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a right or a wrong. I'm not saying I mean,

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you can outline things in many different ways. I just

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think when I see a therefore, that typically signifies a

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transition from one section to another section. Right, it's transitioning.

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something in your outline just just a theory you can determine.

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But we're waiting for the scientific evidence about God in

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our DNA.

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Here we go, and we got through thus far.

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The guilt of the Youngodly verse eighteen, first part of

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verse eighteen and then also nineteen and twenty deals basically

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with the knowledge of God.

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Is in them and revealed to them.

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So God has revealed knowledge of himself and even within man.

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Can't go into all the I.

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DNA molecule, and I don't have all the information.

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I saved it on my phone. I was hoping to

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be able to.

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Put it together and put something on screen the night,

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just to kind of back this up. I might still

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do it another another Wednesday evening as a precursor to

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moving forward.

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There was a a man that was reading some scientific

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information off and I was talking about the DNA molecule

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and how that in every aspect of DNA it has,

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it has a layout. There's a pattern in DNA, and

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that DNA. The way he was talking and laying it

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out that that DNA's pattern is a pattern of numbers.

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When you look at the when you add up the

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way it's laid out, and so it's a pattern of numbers.

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And when you look up those numbers and it's a

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consistent you go, there's four four numbers that are presented

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in that pattern.

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And then those four numbers.

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Just repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat.

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made of that DNA. Everything has DNA to it, uh

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when it comes to life. And so he talked about

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how that those four those four numbers that are laid

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out when you look in the Hebrew, the Hebrew alphabet

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and everything, and you can associate numbers with letters in

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the Hebrew alphabet. He said, the interesting thing is in

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the human human DNA, and in the DNA of all

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living things that DNA pattern wise brings out to being.

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This thing's gonna start doing. I was waiting for it.

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It's been a while since I've had to change this

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microphone out. But that DNA is UH in its pattern.

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You look at the letters that it represents, it's why

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w why, yeah, thank you, y h w h, thank you.

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My brain skipped there.

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And if you look at y h w H in

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the Hebrew that spells yahweh, that is Jehovah. And he

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was laying out how even in human DNA, the pattern

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of human human DNA describes the creator himself, Jehovah, God

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and UH.

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And so when you think about that, the knowledge of God.

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Is in them and revealed to them. It's in you

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to begin with, and it's revealed to you if you

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look at actual science, not modern day style of science,

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but actual science, and you look up actual DNA, you'll

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find that it has been proven that in numerology and everything,

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laying out that Jehovah himself basically stamped his.

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Own name in the living DNA.

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Of all things.

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How interesting that is.

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But uh, the the guy who spoke it out and

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it all, he is much much more eloquent than I

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am with it. But I found it rather interesting, especially

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with dealing with chapter.

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One and that thought that.

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There's the supposed claim God has stamped his name on

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human DNA. And he said, this is actual science, not

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that false science out there. So he's stating this as scientific,

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dogmatic fact, and that anything that would question this is

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not true science. He's not. He doesn't even tell the

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people this is a theory that has been debunked by many,

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are challenged. No, no, no, no, no, no. Hey. In fact,

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he almost shuts that down by saying, no, real science,

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not that other stuff. See, real science will tell you

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that DNA contains a pattern that corresponds to the Hebrew

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letter why h wh which is the name of God

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Shahweh Jehovah Jehovah. Remember how to actually pronounce it, because

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they didn't use all the letters of the Jews, didn't

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write all the letters of God. We could get into

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a whole discussion there, But that's the claim. Now, four

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point thirty in the morning, I immediately, like I opened

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my eyes and was like, whoa wait a minute, way

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to stop, stop, stop, and again we know he's not

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gonna come back. Well not everyone believes that. He already

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shut it down. Any science that would say this is

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not true is not true science. True science will tell

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you that, hey, the structure of the DNA couruse contains

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a pattern that corresponds to the Hebrew letters why hwh,

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which is the name of God in the Hebrew Bible.

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God has stamped his name upon DNA and everybody. Now

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I don't know how many people in the background there

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were saying a amen. The volume is kind of low,

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but immediately when I heard this, I was like, no, no, no, no, no,

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no no, So are you ready to work through this now? Again,

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I don't care about at that point. I don't care

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about his sermon. I don't care about the name of

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that church. I don't care about any of that. It's

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not about them. It's about this theory. Because Christians will

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go and promote this theory and cite it and pro

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and post it on social media, and then when someone

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calls them out for this fraudulent information, they'll be like, well,

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you believe in that false science. We have real science

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that understands the true structure of DNA. Well, let's look

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into this and see what we can find. Right, Well,

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so you've heard their theory, all right. So basically again,

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they suggest that the structure of human DNA contains a

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pattern that corresponds to the Hebrew letters y HWH which

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is the name of God and the Hebrew Bible. This

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idea is based on the concept of jamatria, a form

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of Jewish numerology that assigns numerical values to the letters.

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So immediately when I hear this, this is not based

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off science. This is more based off Jewish numerology. He says,

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it's science. No, this is Jewish numerology. It's not science,

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and that's called jamatria. Right, So are you ready, let's

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look into this, all right. That's the theory. That's the theory, right,

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Do I need to state the theory again? The theory

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suggests that the structure of human DNA contains a pattern

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that corresponds to the Hebrew letters y H w H,

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which is the name of God in the Hebrew Bible

467
00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:50.680
chafwey right, Jehovah. This idea is based on the concept

468
00:26:50.759 --> 00:26:55.720
of jamatria a form of Jewish numerology that assigns numerical

469
00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:59.480
values to letters. So let me make it very clear

470
00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:04.960
of this is Jewish numerology, not science. In fact, you're

471
00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:11.640
imposing symbolism and numerology upon scientific information. This is not

472
00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:15.119
the way you do this. This is all this is questionable.

473
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:17.440
This is not coming from the Bible. It's not even

474
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:21.599
coming from Christianity. It's coming from Jewish numerology. All right,

475
00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:26.680
So all right, but let's let's read here, all right. First,

476
00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:30.440
the very first thing I found was this, this theory

477
00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:37.119
has been debunked. That's a very free It took three seconds.

478
00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:39.480
And immediately I found out that this has been debunked.

479
00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:43.359
I found the video of the origin, the individual who

480
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:46.279
gave this theory, or at least the video featured him.

481
00:27:46.279 --> 00:27:47.559
I don't know if it was put out by him,

482
00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:50.200
but it was featured him. And immediately even the comments

483
00:27:50.200 --> 00:27:52.720
on YouTube was like, this is junk, this is trash,

484
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:56.079
this is not true. This is utter fraudulent. Right, So

485
00:27:56.319 --> 00:28:00.359
immediately I was like, wait a minute. See, even if

486
00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:02.759
I was to state this from the pulpit, I'd be like, well,

487
00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:06.279
I heard this, I believe it here's my four reasons,

488
00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:08.359
but here are the reasons people give to say it's

489
00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:10.720
not true. Now, at that point you would ask why

490
00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:12.960
you want to do that in your introduction to Romans

491
00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:16.799
chapter one or your conclusion of Romans chapter one. I

492
00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:19.839
think at that time you're just now you've distracted us

493
00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:22.160
from the Word of God and that Look, I didn't

494
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:25.200
even get into his teaching on Romans, because now look

495
00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:27.440
what I'm doing in stead of focusing on Man that

496
00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:29.880
was such a good sermon on Romans. What am I

497
00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:32.519
focusing on? I got to figure out whether this is

498
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:35.240
true or fraudulent? All right, So are you ready? So

499
00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:37.960
the very first thing has been debunked, the claim that

500
00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:44.000
the DNA sequence, specifically the sepheric bridges between the nucleotides,

501
00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:48.440
follows a pattern of ten five six ' five. So

502
00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:51.599
this claim is based. This is very important that the

503
00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:57.000
DNA sequence, specifically the sepheric bridges between the nucleotides, follows

504
00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:01.799
a pattern of ten five six five, which supposedly matches

505
00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:08.480
the numerical values of hy HWH and jamatria. In reality,

506
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:16.279
DNA is composed of four nucleotides right held together by

507
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:23.440
hydrogen bonds, not sulfur bridges, So already something is We

508
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:26.039
already know that there's a problem here. This is based

509
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:30.599
on the concept that it is that it is that

510
00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:35.839
the DNA sequence, specifically the sepheric bridges between the nucleotides,

511
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:38.359
follows a pattern of ten five sixty five. But it's

512
00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:43.279
not sepheric bridges, it's hydrogen bonds, so already we have

513
00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:49.200
a problem. Moreover, there is no literally no scientific evidence

514
00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:53.680
supporting the existence of such a pattern in d N A.

515
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:57.240
The theory was first proposed by doctor and I'm not

516
00:29:57.279 --> 00:29:59.880
even going to attempt to say his first name, rub

517
00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:06.279
but at locks credible scientific backing and has been criticized

518
00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:09.599
for its inaccuracies. So we know the name of the

519
00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:13.799
individual who put forth the concept. Now some claim that

520
00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:17.880
he claimed he published this in a specific journal. Others

521
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:21.440
claim that they cannot find the supposed publication of this

522
00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:24.160
in any journal. So there is some back and forth

523
00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:26.839
on that. But just please note this gets into the

524
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:30.960
entire structure of DNA and how it works. Now, this

525
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:33.279
is why pastors have to be very careful coming to

526
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:37.440
the pulpit claiming this stuff, because unless you're an expert

527
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:40.160
on this, now you have to rely on a lot

528
00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:42.839
of different sources, but there are clear sources. Going wait

529
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:46.559
a minute, this is all based on again the idea

530
00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:51.079
that sulpheric bridges between the nucleotides follows a pattern of

531
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:55.000
ten five six five, But in reality, DNA is composed

532
00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:58.000
of four nucleotides. I have the list of those four here,

533
00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:00.240
but I'm not going to try to pronounce them because

534
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:02.480
then I'm going to look foolish. All right, They're held

535
00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:07.680
together by hydrogen bonds, not sulfur bridges. So already that

536
00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:12.359
this is based off begins to fall apart. There is

537
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:18.480
no scientific evidence supporting the existence of a pattern in DNA.

538
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:24.240
The theory that human DNA is structured with numbers representing

539
00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:28.160
the Hebrew letters y HWH was first proposed by doctor

540
00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:34.200
Rubinstein in the early two thousands. This idea gained some attention,

541
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:38.200
but was later debunked by scientists who clarified that DNA

542
00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:42.559
is composed of nucleotides held together by hydrogen bonds, not

543
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:48.200
sulfur bridges, as the theory suggested. The debunking of this

544
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:51.920
theory occurred over several years as more scientists and researchers

545
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:55.440
examined the claims and found them to be scientifically inaccurate.

546
00:31:55.839 --> 00:32:01.119
By the mid twenty tens, the theory had been widely discredited.

547
00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:04.960
So this is this message that we're listening to was

548
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:09.920
preached in twenty twenty three. By twenty tens, it was

549
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:13.480
already disproven. So why is it being brought back to

550
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:16.759
the pulpit in twenty twenty three being now broadcast on

551
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:20.759
the internet in twenty twenty four, Like why why? Why?

552
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:24.839
That drives me crazy again, I'm not seeing the pastor

553
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:28.079
can't put forth the theory right because I believe you know,

554
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:31.640
say whatever you want to say, but just be very Hey,

555
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:35.039
look here's the individual came up with this idea. However,

556
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:38.279
starting in the twenty tens, there was a wide criticism

557
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:41.359
of this. Now here are my four reasons for believing

558
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:43.640
this is true, and here's their four reasons, or there's

559
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:46.440
two reasons or three reasons for claiming it's not true. Now,

560
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:49.359
the only problem is to do that, Well, you wouldn't

561
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:51.640
be doing it in your introduction or your conclusion to

562
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:54.039
Romans Chapter one. What you should have done is just

563
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:57.359
made this as your own individual sermon and then give

564
00:32:57.480 --> 00:33:01.279
both views and then let the people decid. But even

565
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:03.680
if it's that much, if there's that much question to it,

566
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:09.000
and it's based off Jewish numerology, okay, whatever, But I

567
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:11.799
needed more. I needed more of an explanation, so I

568
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:16.920
did a little bit more work found this. This theory,

569
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:20.839
the theory that you just heard, suggests that the structure

570
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:25.119
of human DNA contains a pattern corresponding to the Hebrew

571
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:28.799
letters y HWH, which is the name of God in

572
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:33.440
the Hebrew Bible. This source says, while it's a it

573
00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:38.200
is a fascinating claim that has garnered attention among certain groups. However,

574
00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:42.960
it is important to critically analyze this theory to assess

575
00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:50.240
its validity from a scientific, linguistic and theological perspectives. So

576
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:53.400
this is going to go in far more detail, all right,

577
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:56.599
So we're going to assess the validity of this theory

578
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:03.519
along three lines, scientific perspect linguistic perspective, and the thiological perspective.

579
00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:10.920
Let's start with the scientific DNA structure. Human DNA is

580
00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:15.519
composed of a double helix structure made up of nucleotides.

581
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:22.440
These nucleotides are made of are made of a group. Well,

582
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:25.559
they've made of a couple a sugar group and one

583
00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:29.320
of the four nitrogenists based and then they give and

584
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:30.920
they name all of this, So they go through the

585
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:34.320
how these nucleotides are made up. All right, okay, and

586
00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:36.119
I'm not going to get into all of this. It's

587
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:39.320
a phosphate group, a sugar group, and then it names

588
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:41.960
the four nitrogen bases. So they're going to go through

589
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:44.880
all of this. This sequence of these bases forms the

590
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:49.440
genetic instruction for the development, functioning, and reproduction of living organisms.

591
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:52.199
Right now, I could go, I could try to read

592
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:54.920
all of that information, but it's a lot of very

593
00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:58.800
you know, detailed or technical information that I'm just gonna

594
00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:02.280
be honest with you, I would not have a firm

595
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:06.400
grasp on it. But so they're going into the basic

596
00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:09.960
structure of it right now at that point, that doesn't

597
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:12.679
really prove or disprove the theory. They're just kind of

598
00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:15.960
making sure we understand the basic how it is basically structured.

599
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:22.119
But here's the key. There is no literal alphabet in DNA.

600
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:27.440
DNA does not inherently contain letters or symbols from any

601
00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:32.880
human alphabet, including Hebrew. The suggestion that DNA corresponds to

602
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:38.440
Hebrew letters requires the imposition of an external symbolic system

603
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:43.599
on the biological structure. In other words, any perceived pattern

604
00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:47.760
is not intrinsic to the DNA itself, but is an

605
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:54.480
interpretation imposed by those looking for specific patterns. So already

606
00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:57.159
we know this The whole concept is falling apart. Let

607
00:35:57.199 --> 00:36:01.719
me read this again. DNA does not, inha apparently, contain

608
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:07.159
letters or symbols from any human alphabet, including Hebrew. The

609
00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:11.760
suggestion that DNA corresponds to Hebrew letters requires the imposition

610
00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:17.159
of an external symbolic system onto the biological structure. In

611
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:21.599
other words, any perceived pattern is not intrinsic to DNA itself,

612
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:26.239
but is an interpretation imposed by those looking for specific patterns.

613
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:29.239
So already we know the thing is beginning to fall apart.

614
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:37.440
You're we already can tell pattern recognition. Humans are naturally

615
00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:43.239
inclined to find patterns and meaning. This is a psychological phenomenon.

616
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:46.320
Now I could give you the name of the psychological phenomenon,

617
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:48.079
but we don't. I don't want to. I want to

618
00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:51.119
stay focused here, right. So this could explain why some

619
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:54.480
might see a connection between DNA sequences and the letters

620
00:36:54.719 --> 00:37:00.199
y hwh. However, the connection is subjective and locks a

621
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:05.320
basis in molecular biology. This is not coming from molecular biology.

622
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:08.519
This is something you're imposing upon it. You want to

623
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:11.119
see a pattern, you can find a pattern, but you're

624
00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:15.079
imposing the pattern from an external source onto something that

625
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:19.079
does not inherently have said pattern. In other words, you're

626
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:24.000
imposing an idea upon something. You're forcing your idea upon something,

627
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:28.440
and you're bringing in the name of God to do this.

628
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:31.119
That's where I have a problem. Now we're utilizing the

629
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:33.800
name of God in a way that may not well,

630
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:39.039
maybe in fact almost taking it in vain. So there's

631
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:44.000
the scientific perspective DNA there is no DNA does not

632
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:47.800
inherently contain a letter or symbol, or any human alphabet,

633
00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:52.719
including Hebrew. The suggestion that DNA corresponds to Hebrew letters

634
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:57.000
requires the imposition of an external symbolic system on the

635
00:37:57.039 --> 00:38:00.440
biological structure. In other words, any perceived pattern is not ansic.

636
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:04.400
This pattern recognition is because we want to see it.

637
00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:07.039
We're imposing it upon this. And this is a psychological

638
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:09.920
phenomenon that people will do. All right, And we could

639
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:13.239
go study that psychological phenomenon, but we'll get further away

640
00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:15.599
from what we're looking we're looking at just the basis

641
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:22.920
for this theory. Now that's the more scientific perspective, maybe

642
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:26.440
an oversimplification of the scientific perspective. I mean, we could

643
00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:29.440
go find people have greater knowledge and molecular biology and

644
00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:33.039
a greater understanding of DNA, But in many cases what

645
00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:35.440
we're going to find is, again, this is an imposition

646
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:38.039
of things upon it. Let's look at it from a

647
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:45.119
linguistic perspective. Hebrew alphabet and numerology. The Hebrew alphabet consists

648
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:48.559
of twenty two letters, and some people engage in jamatria,

649
00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:55.039
a form of numerology that assigns numerical values to these letters. Right,

650
00:38:55.679 --> 00:39:00.000
the idea that DNA sequences could correspond to Hebrew letters

651
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:06.840
or numerological values involves translating biological data into a completely

652
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:15.920
unrelated symbolic system, which is arbitrary and subjective. So, even

653
00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:18.800
even if you want to try to bring over numerology

654
00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:25.280
into this, you're translating biological data into a completely unrelated

655
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:28.760
symbolic system. Now, this is the key, which is arbitrary

656
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:32.559
and subjective. The whole thing is subjective. It's arbitrary. You're

657
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:35.559
just assigning what you want to assign based off the

658
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:42.039
pattern you want to find. Don't you see, don't you

659
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:45.679
see this entire thing is is questionable from the outright.

660
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:50.800
It's it's basis on science is again not not it's

661
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:53.360
not a super it's not what we could go to.

662
00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:55.719
We could go to the actual structure if I go

663
00:39:55.760 --> 00:39:58.280
all the way back. Remember it's it's it's based on

664
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:01.039
a spheric bridge, when in re reality it's not a

665
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:06.159
sepheric bridge. Okay, remember we already we already looked at that. Okay,

666
00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:11.519
it's a hydrogen bomb bonds, not a spheric bridge. So

667
00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:14.519
already it's based off a wrong understanding of science. You're

668
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:16.800
imposing things that are not there. But even if you

669
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:19.320
want to go from this, you have the issue that

670
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:22.880
when you're you are basically translating biological data into a

671
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:27.679
completely unrelated symbolic system, which is arbitrary and subjective. Even

672
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:32.679
if one were to assign Hebrew letters to nucleotide sequences

673
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:36.280
right like a equals a lift right, right, whatever, the

674
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:43.840
process would involve a significant amount of selection bias. Moreover,

675
00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:47.840
different people might choose different mappings, leading to different interpretations

676
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:52.199
of DNA sequences. There is no standard or agreed upon

677
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:56.679
method to map DNA sequences to the Hebrew alphabet, rendering

678
00:40:56.760 --> 00:41:03.639
any such claim speculative. At this is arbitrary. This is speculative.

679
00:41:03.880 --> 00:41:07.639
This is not science. It's based off what you want

680
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:12.920
to see. It's subjective, it's not scientifically factual, and it

681
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:18.079
has no basis of being preached from the pulpit. But

682
00:41:18.119 --> 00:41:23.599
now let's look at it from a thiological perspective. Symbolic interpretations,

683
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:29.360
the name Jahweh Jehovah is a profound importance in Jewish

684
00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:34.679
and Christian traditions, representing obviously the holy name of God.

685
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:37.840
Some proponents of this theory might argue that a connection

686
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:44.159
between Yahweh or Jehovah and DNA symbolizes divine creation. However,

687
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:47.000
from a thiological standpoint, such a claim should be approached

688
00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:50.519
with caution, as at risk reducing the transcendental nature of

689
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:54.679
God's name to a mere scientific curiosity. Well, I think

690
00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:57.760
it's more than just reducing it to a mere scientific curiosity.

691
00:41:57.920 --> 00:41:59.960
I think you're taking the name of God and play

692
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:03.079
and claiming it somewhere where it may not even actually be,

693
00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:06.440
And you're utilizing God's name in a fraudulent, in vain way.

694
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:10.360
You're using God's name to make a fraudulent claim that

695
00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:20.280
is not right. Associating DNA with y h Wh or

696
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:26.280
Yahweh could lead to misunderstandings about both science and theology. Theologically,

697
00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:29.639
it could suggest a form of biological determinism where the

698
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:32.360
divine name is physically encoded in human beings, which might

699
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:35.840
not align with more nuanced theological interpretations of God's relationship

700
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:38.159
with creation. Okay, well we could get into all of that.

701
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:43.639
Now here's the key. This theory lacks a solid foundation

702
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:47.559
in molecular biology. DNA is not a code that can

703
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:51.760
be straightforwardly translated into human language or symbols. The supposed

704
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:54.599
connection between DNA and the Hebrew name of God is

705
00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:58.320
more of a product of imagination and pattern recognition than

706
00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:04.000
of empirical science. While the idea might appeal to those

707
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:09.320
seeking to find a tangible connection between spiritual spirituality and biology,

708
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:13.639
it is crucial to distinguish between metaphorical or symbolic interpretations

709
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:17.199
and scientific facts. The claim does not withstand scrutiny from

710
00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:23.239
a rigorous scientific or a linguistic perspective. In summary, while

711
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:27.440
the idea of finding Jahweh and human DNA may be intriguing,

712
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:31.960
it remains speculative and unsubstantiated by evidence. As with many

713
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:34.639
theories that attempt to bridge the gap between science and religion,

714
00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:37.400
it should be approached critically with an understanding of the

715
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:47.280
different domains of knowledge involved. It falls apart scientifically, it

716
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:54.199
falls apart linguistically, falls apart theologically. It's based on Jewish numerology.

717
00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:59.199
It's arbitrary, it's subjective. You can assign this means this

718
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:07.840
the whole thing is problematic. Yet this theory finds itself

719
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:18.480
and the introduction of a sermon on the Book of Romans.

720
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:22.639
Now I'm gonna back this up, and we're gonna let

721
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:25.159
him give the theory one more time, say that you

722
00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:28.039
can hear his perspective one more time. Here we go.

723
00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:37.000
I'llequle the DNA model seven Paul's longing verse eight through

724
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:40.960
verse no Ver seventeen, which we got through that part

725
00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:43.159
as well. And then we began to look at God's

726
00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:48.079
wrath on unrighteousness verse eighteen down to the end of

727
00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:51.159
the chapter verse Nomber thirty two, and we got through

728
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:56.679
thus far the guilt of the ngodly verse eighteen, first

729
00:44:56.679 --> 00:44:59.960
part of verse eighteen, and then also nineteen and twenty

730
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:04.079
deals basically with the knowledge of God is in them

731
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:07.559
and revealed to them. So God has revealed knowledge of

732
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:13.599
himself and even within man. I I can't go into

733
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:16.360
all of this. I was watching something recently about about

734
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:22.599
the the molecule, the DNA molecule, and I don't have

735
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:23.320
all the information.

736
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:24.320
I saved it on my phone.

737
00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:27.159
I was hoping to be able to put it together

738
00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:29.119
and put something on a screen to night, just to

739
00:45:29.199 --> 00:45:31.920
kind of back this up. I might still do it

740
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:36.400
another another Wednesday evening as a precursor to moving forward,

741
00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:38.719
but I will say this.

742
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:39.960
There there was.

743
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:44.800
A a man that was reading some scientific information off

744
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:48.199
and I was talking about the DNA molecule and how

745
00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:53.639
that in every aspect of DNA it has, it has

746
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:57.559
a layout. There's a pattern in in DNA, and that

747
00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:00.440
DNA the way he was talking and in it out

748
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:06.199
that DNA's pattern is a pattern of numbers. When you

749
00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:08.559
look at the when you add up the way it's

750
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:11.360
laid out, and so it's a pattern of numbers. And

751
00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:14.039
when you look up those numbers and it's a consistent

752
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:18.320
you go, there's four four numbers that are presented in

753
00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:21.079
that pattern, and then those four numbers just repeat and

754
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:23.599
repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat, and that that's

755
00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:27.079
what creates d n A. Every human being is made

756
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:32.039
of that DNA. Everything has DNA to it when it

757
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:34.800
comes to life. And so he talked about how that

758
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:37.119
those four those four numbers that are laid out when

759
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:42.880
you look in the Hebrew, the Hebrew alphabet and everything,

760
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:46.719
and you can associate numbers with letters in the Hebrew alphabet.

761
00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:51.960
He said, the interesting thing is in the human human

762
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:55.639
DNA and in DNA of all living things, that DNA

763
00:46:55.960 --> 00:46:58.719
pattern wise brings out to being.

764
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:01.119
This thing's gonna start doing. I was waiting for it.

765
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:02.719
It's been a while since I've had to change this

766
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:09.119
microphone out. But that DNA is UH in his pattern.

767
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:12.199
You look at the letters that it represents, it's why

768
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:19.639
w why, yeah, thank you, y h w H thank you.

769
00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:22.239
My brain skipped there. And if you look at y

770
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:27.559
h w H in the Hebrew, that spells yahweh, that

771
00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:32.599
is Jehovah. And he was laying out how even in

772
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:37.559
human DNA, the pattern of human human DNA describes the

773
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:41.440
creator himself Jehovah God and UH.

774
00:47:41.480 --> 00:47:44.920
And so when you think about that the knowledge of God.

775
00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:51.800
Is in them and revealed to them. It's in you

776
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:53.559
to begin with, and it's.

777
00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:54.239
Revealed to you.

778
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:57.360
If you look at actual science, not modern day style

779
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:01.119
of science, but actual science, and you look up actual DNA,

780
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:07.119
you'll find that it has been proven that in numerology

781
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:10.960
and everything laying out that Jehovah himself based.

782
00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:16.639
If you look at actual science, not modern day science.

783
00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:22.679
But then he says numerology, numerology is not science. It's

784
00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:26.800
you're basing this entire theory. It's not scientific, it's not biblical.

785
00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:33.039
This is complete wild speculation being spoken of as fact

786
00:48:33.519 --> 00:48:37.400
from the bulpit. This is what this is where sometimes

787
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:40.159
I'm like, I don't belong in Christianity. This, I what

788
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:44.039
is this? This cannot happen. We've got to combat this

789
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:46.480
kind of thing. All right, I'll let him just finish

790
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:46.920
this up.

791
00:48:48.440 --> 00:48:53.079
Basically stamped his own name in the living DNA of

792
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:54.320
all things.

793
00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:56.039
How interesting that is.

794
00:48:56.280 --> 00:48:59.400
But uh, the other the guy who spoke it out

795
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:02.320
and it all, he is much much more eloquent than

796
00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:06.199
I am with it. But I found it rather interesting,

797
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:10.880
especially with dealing with Chapter one and that thought that

798
00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:14.639
the knowledge of God is in them and revealed to them,

799
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:21.840
and that all are without excuse because of that very thing.

800
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:24.400
Then we begin to look at the actions of the

801
00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:24.880
young God.

802
00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:29.880
Then he just moves on. But he stated it as factual.

803
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:32.760
And I was watching some guy who is looking up

804
00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:35.639
or reading some scientific facts. Well, did you go look

805
00:49:35.639 --> 00:49:39.719
at the scientific facts? Did you verify anything? Who was

806
00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:43.840
this guy? So let me again go back and just

807
00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:47.639
take out he didn't get into. He didn't get into

808
00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:51.840
the idea that this theory is based off the idea

809
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:55.800
that DNA sequence, specifically the sepheric bridges between the nuclear tides,

810
00:49:55.840 --> 00:49:58.719
follows a pattern of ten five sixty five, which supposedly

811
00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:04.079
matches the numerical values for God in Gematria or Yahweh. Remember,

812
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:07.440
in reality, DNA is composed of four nucleotides held together

813
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:12.039
by hydrogen bonds, not sulfur bridges. So already the actual

814
00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:16.719
scientific concept behind it is fraudulent and wrong. But remember

815
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:21.400
human DNA are no Remember DNA does not inherently contain

816
00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:25.039
letters or symbols from any human alphabet, including Hebrew. The

817
00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:28.840
suggestion that DNA corresponds to Hebrew letters requires the imposition

818
00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:32.280
of an external symbolic system onto the thiological structure. In

819
00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:35.159
other words, any perceived pattern is not intrinsic to the

820
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:38.880
DNA itself, but as an interpretation imposed by those looking

821
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:42.159
for a specific pattern. Humans are inclined to look for

822
00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:46.000
these patterns. It's a psychological phenomenon, but it has nothing

823
00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:48.679
to do with what you're imposing that pattern.

824
00:50:48.760 --> 00:50:48.920
Two.

825
00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:52.880
All right, this idea, this connection is subjective, and it

826
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:57.039
lacks a basis in molecular biology. The Hebrew alphabet consists

827
00:50:57.079 --> 00:50:59.920
of twenty two letters. Some people engage in jamatria form

828
00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:04.159
numerology that assigns numerical values to those letters. The idea

829
00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:07.960
that DNA sequence could correspond to Hebrew letters or normrological

830
00:51:08.039 --> 00:51:13.880
values involves translating biological data into completely unrelated symbolic system,

831
00:51:14.119 --> 00:51:17.960
which is arbitrary and subjective. Even if you were to

832
00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:23.119
assign Hebrew letters to nucleotide sequences, the process would involve

833
00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:27.039
a significant amount of selection bias. Moreover, different people might

834
00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:31.199
choose different mappings, leading to a different interpretation of DNA sequences.

835
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:34.400
There is no standard, agreed upon method to map DNA

836
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:38.480
sequences to the Hebrew alphabet, rendering any such claim is

837
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:44.119
speculative at best. All right, Yeah, and so there we

838
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:46.159
could go. We could go further into it, and I

839
00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:48.639
could reread a lot of things, but this entire thing,

840
00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:53.639
it's been debunked, it's been challenged, it's been questioned, it's speculative.

841
00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:57.079
And even again, even at the even if I wanted

842
00:51:57.119 --> 00:51:59.920
to say the very least the pastor could do, Hey,

843
00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:02.920
I heard this theory. Here's the four reasons I believe

844
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:06.360
in the theory. But here are four reasons people disagree

845
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:09.400
with this theory. Now what do you think? Now, again,

846
00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:12.920
most people sitting in the pula, it's true. God is

847
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:16.519
stamped on our DNA. I don't care what the facts say, well,

848
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:18.840
because that Christians love to do that kind of thing

849
00:52:19.039 --> 00:52:23.119
without ever really considering the facts. Now, I know there

850
00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:26.199
are people who listen to this podcast who have much

851
00:52:26.239 --> 00:52:30.960
more training in medicine. I know I obviously I worked

852
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:35.400
in the medical world for twenty two years, well, medicine biology,

853
00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:38.960
that type of thing, And I'm going to definitely continue

854
00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:43.039
to try to seek out my contacts from people I

855
00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:46.679
knew who obviously would have much more training and understanding

856
00:52:46.679 --> 00:52:52.199
of DNA molecular biology, those areas. Other people may have

857
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:56.199
studied this in college to some level, and I'm more

858
00:52:56.239 --> 00:52:58.719
than willing to hear anyone out. So I'm going to

859
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:00.559
continue to verify. Now. You know what I'll do If

860
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:02.599
I come back and go, wait a minute, maybe there's

861
00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:05.119
more to this, I got no problem correcting it. What

862
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:07.760
I want to do is say, hey, there's enough information

863
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:09.920
out there that only took me four point thirty in

864
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:12.800
the morning, laying in bed. It only took me about

865
00:53:12.840 --> 00:53:15.000
five minutes to immediately start coming up with all this

866
00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:18.079
information that's calling it into question. It took literally no

867
00:53:18.239 --> 00:53:20.800
time at all. So before I stepped in the pulpit

868
00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:23.519
and said it, I would at least be willing to go, hey, guys,

869
00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:27.199
I saw this. But just know that not everyone believes this,

870
00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:29.639
but here and now now you could even challenge whether

871
00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:32.559
you think that's right or wrong. But I will continue

872
00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:35.599
to try to, you know, do research and talk to

873
00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:38.320
people I knew from the past and who have far

874
00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:42.639
higher degrees in this area. My degrees are in theology

875
00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:48.199
and religious education and biblical studies, not molecular biology, okay,

876
00:53:48.239 --> 00:53:53.880
by no means okay, so, And and my degrees in

877
00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:56.239
the healthcare world and the medical world is more in

878
00:53:56.320 --> 00:54:00.119
medical administration and coding and that type of thing. And

879
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:04.400
it is in an actual you know the structure of DNA,

880
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:09.400
so you can Yeah, those who have a greater knowledge

881
00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:12.679
by all means you can say whether right or wrong.

882
00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:15.960
I'm willing to hear from those who have actual understanding

883
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:19.000
in this area, but it sounds like there's plenty of

884
00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:23.519
very well knowledgeable people going, Hey, this theory started in

885
00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:27.880
two thousand, two thousand and one, somewhere around that time period,

886
00:54:28.039 --> 00:54:31.880
and by twenty ten it was widely debunked, widely proven

887
00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:36.880
to be not accurate. Yet showing up in pulpits or

888
00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:38.880
in a pulpit I should say, I bet you, I

889
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:40.880
bet you could find lots of sermons that put forth

890
00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:43.840
this idea. I bet you I could. I bet you

891
00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:47.880
I could, and so called Christian science and which would

892
00:54:47.880 --> 00:54:54.840
be really problematic. All right, I think that's good. I

893
00:54:54.880 --> 00:55:00.199
think that's good. All right. I do apologize. Nucleotides, I

894
00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:03.079
got that right, Jamatria, I think I got that right. Spheric,

895
00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:09.239
I think I got that right. Spheric? Was it hydrogen?

896
00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:12.039
I think I could think I got that all correct.

897
00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:15.639
If there's anything I messed up, I apologize, because obviously

898
00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:18.199
I want to be as accurate as possible. Let me

899
00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:22.639
see how hydrogen bond bonds, not spheric bridges. Okay, yeah,

900
00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:24.719
so I think we got I think we got that right.

901
00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:29.079
I didn't give the name of the psychological phenomenon for

902
00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:32.440
people finding patterns. I think the only area where I

903
00:55:32.599 --> 00:55:36.119
decided I decided I made a on the moment spot

904
00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:39.360
change is when I got into the human DNA is

905
00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:42.760
composed of a double helix structure of nucleotides. These nuclear

906
00:55:42.760 --> 00:55:45.559
tires are made up of phosphated This is where I

907
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:47.480
kind of stopped and decided not to go into all

908
00:55:47.519 --> 00:55:50.800
the structure. Phosphate group, a sugar group. Then it names

909
00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:54.800
the four nitrogenous bases, if I'm saying that right, and

910
00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:57.280
then I didn't name all of them. The sequence of

911
00:55:57.320 --> 00:56:00.639
these bases forms the genetic instruction for the development, functioning,

912
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:04.079
and reproduction of living organisms. So that was kind of

913
00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:07.079
just giving you the basis of human DNA, all right,

914
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:09.159
But there's a lot of things there they're like, okay,

915
00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:12.880
not not your genius, I think, is how you say that.

916
00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:16.480
So I think I got most of that correct. That

917
00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:19.039
that paragraph, I probably should have just left that one

918
00:56:19.079 --> 00:56:25.920
out because it wasn't really wasn't really necessarily important to

919
00:56:26.000 --> 00:56:29.320
the overall discussion. But I just wanted to, you know,

920
00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:32.239
show hey, there's actual structure, how this is put together.

921
00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:36.880
And none of this has anything to do with Jewish numerology. Okay,

922
00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:41.639
none of this all right. You're imposing something on biological data,

923
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:46.079
you're imposing Jewish numerology, and you're doing it in an

924
00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:50.719
arbitrary way, subjective way. And interesting that the individual my

925
00:56:50.840 --> 00:56:54.079
understanding who did this was Jewish trying to find in

926
00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:57.639
a sense, the Old Testament name of God in the pattern.

927
00:56:58.119 --> 00:57:04.679
Wouldn't he be imposing it, right? Wouldn't he have a

928
00:57:04.719 --> 00:57:09.840
predisposition to see it? It would be like you know,

929
00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:13.000
a Christian finding the name of Jesus or or you know,

930
00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:15.840
it'd be one thing if but no, that this is

931
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:18.280
not like everyone can look at the data and because

932
00:57:18.320 --> 00:57:22.239
you're taking Jewish numerology and imposing it, it's not coming

933
00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:27.320
from the DNA. You're putting something upon the DNA that's

934
00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:33.519
not that's not molecular biology, that's not scientific, that's whatever

935
00:57:34.119 --> 00:57:37.840
fields that this would fit into, whichever fields of study,

936
00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:41.719
whichever academic areas that this would fit into. I don't want,

937
00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:44.119
you know, molecular biology seems to be the I think

938
00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:47.119
the major field. But there may be other adjoining fields

939
00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:50.679
of study that this could could connect to anything that

940
00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:54.280
would look at human DNA. But this is not this

941
00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:57.960
is not no, this is not coming from molecular biology.

942
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What you're what you're claiming is you found something in

943
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Jewish numerology that was then imposed upon biological data, and

944
00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:09.519
client making a claim about God's name being somewhere where

945
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God's name is not there based off what you're claiming,

946
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and therefore you're using God's name in vain. That becomes

947
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a theological issue and possibly even a sin issue. All right,

948
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you can tell me what you think, all right, I am.

949
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I'm going to continue to see what I can find

950
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out about this and try to see I know there's

951
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a lot of people who listen to the podcast who

952
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have far more advanced degrees in areas that would be

953
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more related to this than I do. All right, so

954
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you can you can cite your credentials, all right. Cite

955
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your credentials, Cite your area of study, Cite the university

956
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which you attended. Please give inform, like if you're going

957
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to give me information, please cite the correct you know information,

958
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like you know, hey, I I I attended this university

959
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and I have a degree of molecular molecular biology. Okay,

960
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great now, and you can say you're absolutely wrong. Okay,

961
00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:15.000
that guy is absolutely right. Okay, all right, all right,

962
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:18.039
that's good. Now. Why is it that all the information

963
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I can find disagrees with you? Right, so and and

964
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and because those are that's the kind of back and forth.

965
00:59:23.480 --> 00:59:25.599
What I wanted you to do is hear two theories,

966
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two completely contradictory theories. His theory that was promoted, and

967
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all the information that seems to the theory. I'll call

968
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my side a theory that contradicts the other theory. Sorry,

969
00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:43.480
I can't tell what spring to all right, and you

970
00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:45.960
see the my iPad is trying to talk to me.

971
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All right, there we go. All right, yeah see she

972
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doesn't even understand. She doesn't even understand, right, but we

973
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:55.719
will uh, we'll just see. We'll just see where it goes, right,

974
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Hopefully it doesn't go anywhere. Hopefully people will just go,

975
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you know, I look, here's that's the thing. At the

976
01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:04.199
very least I'll end with this, at the very least

977
01:00:04.760 --> 01:00:09.119
minimal minimum, minimum minimum minimum. Before you go out spouting

978
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or citing the supposed theory that God has written into

979
01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:16.599
our DNA. Maybe you should at least pause and go, hmm,

980
01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:20.840
do I want to put forth an idea that is

981
01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:26.079
so rejected, criticized, and claim to be debunked. Because if

982
01:00:26.159 --> 01:00:28.480
I put forth this idea, I'm not going to be

983
01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:31.920
leading people to a discussion about God or his word

984
01:00:32.239 --> 01:00:34.800
or his Gospel. What I'm going to be doing is

985
01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:38.320
now leading people into a never ending debate over whether

986
01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:41.280
this information is true or false, which then takes away

987
01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:44.199
from Romans. This is a sermon on Romans. I never

988
01:00:44.239 --> 01:00:47.960
got to Romans. I got to this so called supposed

989
01:00:48.039 --> 01:00:53.679
scientific fact, and now I've spent an hour talking about that,

990
01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:58.639
not talking about Romans. That's why as pastors we always

991
01:00:58.679 --> 01:01:01.079
have to be careful what is from the pulpit. I

992
01:01:01.119 --> 01:01:04.159
have made similar mistakes. I am by no means saying

993
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I've always done everything correct. I've obviously made a million mistakes.

994
01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:10.280
What I'm saying is, whenever we throw something out like that,

995
01:01:10.519 --> 01:01:12.320
if all it's going to do is take away from

996
01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:15.000
the Book of Romans, then what is our ultimate goal there?

997
01:01:16.119 --> 01:01:20.360
Unless you're convinced that this proves Romans Chapter one, which

998
01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:24.559
he almost seemed to imply that this proves Romans chapter one.

999
01:01:24.840 --> 01:01:29.119
But does Romans chapter one need Jewish numerology imposed upon

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01:01:29.320 --> 01:01:39.840
DNA upon human DNA to prove Romans chapter one? That's

1001
01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:45.679
a strange apologetic All right, Thanks for listening, everyone, have

1002
01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:51.519
a great day. I'll continue to look up and email

1003
01:01:51.960 --> 01:01:57.000
past people I work with and say, hey, doc, you

1004
01:01:57.079 --> 01:02:01.599
had like fifteen degrees, were together for like fifteen years.

1005
01:02:02.159 --> 01:02:05.599
Help me out here. Here's this theory about human DNA.

1006
01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:09.800
I will go with the doctor I worked with who

1007
01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:12.239
was an atheist. I'll go with the doctor I worked

1008
01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:15.280
with who was a Christian. That will be If I

1009
01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:17.639
can contact both of them, that would be interesting. Here's

1010
01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:20.840
the atheistic doctor, here's the Christian doctor. What do they say.

1011
01:02:21.360 --> 01:02:22.840
I don't know if I can contact them. I don't

1012
01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:24.239
even know where they are anymore. But if I can

1013
01:02:24.280 --> 01:02:26.920
find them, that would be interesting. That would be interesting.

1014
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All right, Thanks for listening everyone, Have a great day.

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God bless