June 12, 2024
God In Control?
We listen to part of a sermon that I heard recently
We listen to part of a sermon that I heard recently
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Looking at our world from a theological
perspective. This is the Theology Central podcast,
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making Theology Central Good evening everyone.
It is Tuesday, June the eleventh,
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twenty twenty four. It is currently
nine fifteen pm Central Time, and
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I am coming to you live from
the Theology Central studio located right here in
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Abilene, Texas. Now, have
you ever been listening to a sermon and
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all of a sudden, the pastor
says something and like you just immediately like,
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okay, stop it, stop it, time out, time. I
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don't care what is said after this? Wait a minute? What did he
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just say? Like you literally,
like you're say, you're listening to it
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on your phone or a tablet or
on a computer, and you just like
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pause. Now, if you're there
in person, I don't know what you
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do. Maybe just that moment,
all you can do is like, wait,
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what did he just say? What
did he just say? And all
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you can think about is what he
just said? And you may even have
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problems hearing what he's saying over the
next two or three minutes because you can't
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get over what was just said.
Now. Maybe sometimes if you're listening to
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it live two, three, four
minutes later, they come in and correct
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it, and you realize that they
just misspoke or they explain it, and
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you're like, okay, that makes
sense, But initially you were just absolutely
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shocked. And sometimes when you're listening, say you know, on demand with
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a phone or a tablet, you
just hit pause and you're like, wait
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a minute, there's just no way, there's no way, there's no way
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they could have said that. So
you may back it up, listen to
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it again, hit pause, going
no, let me listen to that again,
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and you listen to it three or
four times you're like, wait,
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that's what he said, and then
you're like, okay, okay, and
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then you listen to the rest to
find out if that's what they meant or
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if they just misspoke, or or
they explain it. In either case,
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whether you're listening to it live or
whether you're listening to it on demand,
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have you ever experienced one of those
just like what the world was that?
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There's no way they just said that. Now. I don't know how many
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times that's happened to you. There's
probably there. I would hate to say
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it. I think in some ways, if I'm being honest, I've had
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to experience that far more than I
would that. I want to say,
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like I hate to say, that's
happened, probably more than I want to
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even admit. Because what you would
like to say is every time you listen
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to preaching, it's wonderful, it's
great, it's edifying, it's amazing.
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There's never any incorrect doctrine. You
would like to be able to say that.
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But I think if you're honest with
yourself, I guess it really depends
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on how many, how much,
how much preaching you actually listen to,
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how many sermons you actually listen to. I think the more you listen to,
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the more you find yourself at times
going whoa wait wait what was that?
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No way back that up back?
No wait, what what was that?
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Well that happened to me today?
Let me explain what was going on.
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I was going to have to go
somewhere, so I grab my iPad,
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open up the sermon's two point oh
app and I just immediately just started
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downloading, downloading, downloading, downloading, so that I would have it on
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my iPad so that I could listen
wherever I was going. I could be
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like, you know, I'm gonna
since I can't be here, I'm going
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to try to listen to as many
sermons as I can to make good use
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of my time. So I started
downloading sermons, and all of a sudden
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I stumbled upon a sermon that was
a part of a series, and the
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series was entitled Preaching Conference twenty twenty
four. Preaching Conference twenty twenty four.
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Now I love. One of my
favorite things about the sermon's two point oh
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app is I love whenever I see, oh, someone's doing a conference,
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either they're broadcasting it live or I
stumble upon the conference and realize, oh,
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I missed it live. But here's
all of the messages. Because sometimes
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in preaching conferences you can kind of
see whether it's a preaching conference, Bible
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conference, any kind of conference,
revival services. You sometimes kind of get
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an idea when the more you listen
to what churches are emphasizing, Like if
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it's a youth conference, Oh that's
okay, this is what the church thinks
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the youth in twenty twenty four needs
to hear. Or if it's a men's
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conference, women's conference, whatever it
is, you can kind of get a
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feel what that church or that particular
denomination or that group really think is important.
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So I love trying to listen to
them. Now, I'm always I've
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always got a million other things that
I want to do, need to do,
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so I don't always get around to
them. But today I was like,
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oh, preaching conference, right,
so let me give you all the
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information. This preaching conference was held
by Bethel Baptist Church. So if you
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look up Bethel Baptist Church on the
sermon's two point oh app the pastor of
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the church is doctor Rick Savage.
It's located in Jackson, Tennessee, and
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it says welcome to our church.
They have a kind of a welcome video,
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and then it says about us and
the heart of Ma County, West
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Tennessee, you will find Bethel Baptist
Church, a fundamental, independent, Bible
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believing Baptist church that has a desire
to worship God and has a heart for
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people. Bethel Baptist Church is established
in Jackson, Tennessee, nestled in the
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center of West Tennessee between Nashville and
Memphis. Jackson and Madison County offer a
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beautiful landscape, abundance of recreational opportunities, and close proximity to great dining and
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shopping. Jackson is a vibrant city
that serves as the retail hub for thirteen
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surrounding counties. Now, I have
been somewhere around that area. I know.
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I definitely have driven through that area
and my trips to Tennessee in the
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past, so I probably have been
somewhere near that area. But I don't
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know much about the church. So
I'm like, Okay, Well, they're
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holding a preaching conference. So I
clicked on the service preaching conference and I
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just started downloading the messages. The
first one, well, starting from the
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top going down may actually the first
one may have been the one at the
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bottom, but okay, starting at
the top, the Praying Savior and Panicked
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Disciples, the Praying Savior and Panic
Disciples from Mark six forty five to fifty
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two. Well, that sounds interesting, all right, What kept Jesus on
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the cross? All right, Mike
Allison, all right, that could be
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interesting. The example of rehab Joshua
chapter two by doctor Alton Bill. All
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Right. Next, the Great Importance
of the Fear of God. The Great
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Importance of the Fear of God.
And I'm like, oh, there it
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is. That's that's the one.
I need to listen to. That one,
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because that's what we're spending all week
about so I made sure I downloaded
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that one. But then the very
next one is entitled God Is In by
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doctor Shelton Smith, and I'm like, oh, wait a minute. Shelton
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Smith. He's the editor of the
sort of the Lord newspaper. Oh,
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he has a day a Monday through
Friday podcast. It's about fifteen minutes long.
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Okay, well, you know I'm
a subscriber to the sort of the
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Lord newspaper. I listened to his
podcast. Okay, hey, let you
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know what. I want to listen
to the Great Importance of the Fear of
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God. But I'm going to be
driving, so I'm now going to be
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able to take notes or anything,
and that one would be perfect to do
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a review. So let me just
go with God as In by doctor Shelton
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Smith, because he also does the
next three The Marks of a Good Man
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but doctor Shelton Smith, Heart Probing
Questions of Jesus, doctor Shelton Smith,
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and then a very good Man in
a very bad World doctor Shelton Smith.
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And I'm like, wow, Okay, he preached a lot at this conference,
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so I'm like, okay, so
let me just go to God Is
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In because that's the first one.
If I'm starting at the top, coming,
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that's the first one that he preaches, at least in that order.
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Most likely he started the conference at
the bottom. And then and and what
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I don't know if there's any more
of the conference going on. Maybe they
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only had a total of eight sermons. I don't know anything about the conference.
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So and some of these. Sometimes
what I wish is for the churches
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that do conferences and you post them
online, always have like the at the
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for the first message for the conference, have someone because I know a lot
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of times the recordings start with the
person preaching, but have someone just you
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know, do a welcoming and have
that recorded for your on demand sermon or
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so that you can explain here's this
conference, here's this conference has been going
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on for five or ten years,
here's the theme of this year's conference,
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or here's what we're hoping to accomplish, because the listeners can have a little
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bit more insight. If I don't
have that, I just know, oh,
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it's a preaching conference. Was there
a theme? Was it? Like?
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What what was what was the goal? Like? So a lot of
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times that's kind of left out.
But either way, I love when the
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conference is there because it gives me
some insight. So I was all excited.
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Doctor Shelton Smith, God is in
all right? Hit play? All
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right? So I hit play.
I was driving down this kind of a
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just a normal kind of pedestrian street
in the city of Abilene, and then
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I at first I kind of went
under the underpass, thinking I was getting
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on the highway, and I ended
up going getting on the highway going the
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wrong way. So then I had
to take the next exit, go back
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around, and then find the actual
turn to get on the freeway to go
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the right way back to my house. So it was when I finally got
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back on the kind of the access
road to get back on the on ramp
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right when I was I think it
was right when I was getting back off
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the freeway, back on the exit
ramp, going back under to try to
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find the right way to get back
on the on ramp going the right direction.
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It's a really weird section of Abilene, Like it's all weird how you
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have to get on the freeway.
You would have to see it to understand
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it. Even though I've lived here
my whole life, I was still I
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still ended up going past where I
needed to turn right, because where you
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think you would turn you you actually
have to go the opposite direction. It's
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all weird, needless to say,
I'm sitting there listening to this sermon like
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okay, okay, and then all
of a sudden, Doctor Sheldon Smith says
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something and I'm like, wait,
wh whoa wait wit he did not just
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say that? He and I immediately
reached over hit the hit pause. I
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hit pause on the IPAE leave it
right there. I don't want to hear
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anything else. I don't want to
hear anything else because what I'm going to
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do is save this and then I'm
gonna play it for everyone. Now,
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you if you were listening to the
sermon when we get to the spot,
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it would be interesting to know if
you would if you would have hit pause
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yourself, or if you would have
just been like what or you would have
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just been like whatever and keep going. I don't know how you would have
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reacted. But I immediately hit stop. I'm like no, no, so
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But then I but then I thought, well, did I hear that right?
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So about I don't know, five
ten minutes ago. I backed it
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up and listened to I'm like,
oh, that's what he said. There's
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no way he meant that. I
know he didn't mean that he had to
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speak or he did. There's just
no way. There's no way he could
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admit that. So here's what I'm
doing. I'm starting it from the beginning.
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I'm going to play it up to
the spot. Now, I'll probably
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you know, interrupt, offer my
own thoughts right up till the spot where
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he says it. Then I'm gonna
stop. See if it bothers you or
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if you would be concerned, maybe
you wouldn't even be bothered or concerned.
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Then we're gonna find out what he
meant. Is he going to explain it,
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Is he going to articulate, or
is he is he going to say
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it again and then say it the
correct way? Because look, there's a
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lot of times I'll get an email
and someone say you said this at the
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seven minute mark, and I'll be
like, wait what, and I'll go
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back and go, oh, oh
no, what was I thinking? And
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then I'll keep listening like, yeah, okay, I did say that,
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and there's no excuse for that,
But two minutes later I stated it again
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the correct way. So I do
understand your concern, but I always I
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if I feel like if I catch
myself. I always try to corrected.
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But whenever you're speaking live, I
mean, you can stumble over your words.
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I haven't in the beginning of this. You can start thinking you're gonna
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say this, and then you start
get you kind of change your direction right
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in the middle. I mean,
there's all kinds of things you can say.
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Sometimes you can say something is just
completely theologically wrong and you didn't mean
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it that way. So I'm going
to give him the benefit of the doubt
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that he doesn't really mean this and
that he's going to correct it. Now.
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You may not. You may agree
with maybe maybe maybe we find out
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he did not misspeak. This is
what he really means. You may agree
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with him, that's perfectly okay.
I'm going to hold on and disagree if
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he did. If he wasn't misspeaking, and that's what he really believes.
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I hope the entire sermon then is
dedicated to explaining his theilological position, because
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ladies and gentlemen, I have questions. Okay, but are you ready?
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Are you ready? So let's this
is what we'll do. Well, pretend
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you're you're in the car with me. Okay, you're in the car with
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me, all right, I mean, it's it's got to be like a
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big car. It's gotta it's got
to have a lot of room for everyone.
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Okay, So everyone's in there,
okay, and all of the time
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I'm like, whoaoa pause, pause, and you're like no, no,
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no, everybody everybody in the back
seat's like no, no, keep going.
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So we're gonna keep going, and
we're gonna find out if I did
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I did I overreact, did I
pause it when I shouldn't have, Or
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if I would have just listened a
little bit longer, would it all be
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no big deal? Now? I
just like to always when I'm listening to
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something, you know, my favorite
thing is I don't like to listen to
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it just by my I mean,
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it by myself when I turn on
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everyone else. Right. So again, I don't know if he agrees with
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what he said, if it was
if it was misspeaked, if he misspoke,
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if he was just a mistake,
if he's going to correct. I
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have no idea what's going to happen
after it. So again, I know
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someone will I think so many people
so misunderstand the sermon reviews. Anytime I
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do a review, we're always reviewing
that which I have not heard. Now,
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the first part of this I have
heard, and I've made that transparent.
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Everything else I haven't heard. So
if I'm critical of it, people
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can get mad at me. But
I'm just listening to a sermon offering.
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It's so weird. People will email
me and say you're being critical or they're
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being critical of me. I'm like, well, if you can be critical
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of me, why can't I be
critical of someone else? So like,
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you can't criticize me being critical when
you're being critical to me, because either
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being critical is wrong all the time, or is it right sometimes. The
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point is is whenever you listen to
preaching, everyone makes some kind of judgment,
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whether you agree or disagree. Now
you may disagree or you may agree.
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The thing is you're not attacking the
person. You're attacking the concept.
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So here's how I'm going to state
it. He's gonna make a comment.
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I'm giving him the benefit of the
doubt, and so we're gonna listen to
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find out if that's what he really
means or did he just simply miss me.
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And this turns into be nothing,
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that'll be fun. If he does
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it that's his hypotheses, and then
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we will work on it. We'll
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real time, I'll offer my possible
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as a question for you to figure
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later on. So again, it's
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look, I've told everyone to subscribe
to the Sort of the Lord.
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I tell last summer we reviewed the
sort of the Lord conference. We'll probably
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do the same thing this year.
I'm telling everyone to go find this preaching
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conference on the summer stood part oh
app and listen to all of it.
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By no means am I telling you
not to listen. I'm just saying that,
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hey, this he's put forth,
put forth hypotheses. At least I'm
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gonna well, I'm going to assume
first that he misspoke. Then if I
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find out that he didn't, then
that's hishypotheses, and then we'll challenge the
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hypothesis, will criticize the hypothesis.
We will criticize the doctrinal position without criticizing
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the person. All right, that
seems like, I don't know why that's
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a car Why is that controversial?
People have been doing that for the as
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you someone writes a book, you
read the book, you agree or disagree
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with the hypotheses, you disagree with
their thesis, you challenge it. That's
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what we do. We've been doing
it in theology since the beginning of theology.
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It's all in the Bible. This
person states this, Well, if
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that person is a false teacher,
and now that's a person's a false prophet,
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this is a false priest, this
is truth, this is falsehood.
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That's what happens. So I don't
know why that's controversial. But if I
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feel like now I have to explain
myself one hundred and fifty different ways to
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because I don't know, I think
it's well. Put it this way.
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It should be clear to anyone who
actually listens to this podcast exactly what I'm
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doing. Sadly, some people don't
seem to understand that. All right,
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but let's forget all of it.
Those people who don't like it, they
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can go find something else to listen
to. There's a million of other options.
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Please enjoy yourself. If you can't
find the podcast to your liking,
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by all means, I'm serious,
email me and I'll help you find the
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one that will make you happy.
Right, No use being unhappy with me.
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Go find someone else will make you
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stuck with me. You've got options. Okay, So but for everyone else,
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are you ready thinking capsion? We're
going to be in Psalm seventy seven,
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so you may want to open your
bibles. Here we go. This
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was preached or this was at least
published on I think June the third,
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twenty twenty four. Again from Preaching
Conference twenty twenty four Bethel Baptist Church.
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Look it up, Preaching Conference twenty
twenty four. I've given you the name
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of the people preaching, in the
name of the sermons. You should be
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able to find it. And look, you want to make one of the
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sermons you want to make a priority
the great importance of the fear of God,
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I mean, helps you fulfill one
of the assignments I gave you for
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our fear of the Lord focus this
week. So right there you get to
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hear a part of the conference,
and you get to hear a sermon that
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relates to our topic. It's a
win win, Okay. In the meantime,
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this is extra content free of charge, right because you know how I
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charge for all of our content.
I'm joking. All right, here we
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go. Are you ready? Let's
enjoy? Thank you, Thank you,
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ellis so very very much nicely done. Take your Bible please and turn to
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Psalm number seventy seven. Psalm number
seventy seven is my text tonight. I
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appreciate all the hospitality that's been extended
to me, as has always been the
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case through the years when I've been
here at Pastor's invitation, and certainly he
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and Miss Debbie have kept me taken
care of. They've put some goodies and
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had the goodies put in the room, so I had a lot of health
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food work with and some of it
was healthy. Uh and uh. And
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at the same time he's fed me
well, kept me, kept me fed.
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And I appreciate all of that so
very very much, and appreciate the
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friendship of all of you. God
bless you for coming. A good bunch
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of you were here yesterday and uh
and the crowd looks pretty good tonight as
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well, and so thank you for
coming. It's my joy and privilege to
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be able to preach with Brother Allison
once in a while. And uh,
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I told them, Brother Allison.
I think Betty's probably made this clear to
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you, but she's in fact,
she's watching where the camera is. Uh.
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But she she my wife has said
over and over again among her favorites.
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In fact, one of her big
favorites is brother Allison and uh.
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And I understand that because I love
to hear him as well. Now,
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I did have one little problem.
Pastor last night made that peanut butter and
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jelly uh introduction type thing, And
I'm setting over here saying to myself,
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which am I? You know,
I was trying to figure out where I
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fit into that equation. Now,
if anyone finds the message where there's the
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peanut butter jelly introduction and uh,
doctor Shelton Smith's trying to figure out which
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one was he peanut butter or jelly, if I can say it correctly,
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I'm interested in that introduction which which
sermon has the peanut, peanut butter and
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jelly introduction? And what was that
peanut butter and jelly introduction? About?
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What was the point of that introduction? And is he making an illustration that
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we're either peanut butter or jelly like? Is that? What does that even
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mean? I've got to find it. I haven't had a chance today to
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look it up. But if you
find it first, they let me know.
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Just just send me a summary.
The peanut butter and jelly illustration is
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this and this this is what determines
if you're peanut butter, and this determines
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of your joke. Was it something
to be humorous? Was it something funny?
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Was it a joke or was it
something spiritual? Now, and a
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lot of conferences you're you're kind of
you know that people follow a template.
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If you listen to conference speaking right, you always open up with thank you
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for your hospitality, thank you to
everyone here. It's been amazing. You've
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all been wonderful, You've been great. You do that, you endear yourself
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to the audience and to the people
who you know invited you there because you
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want to. You want to do
that so you'll be invited back to more
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conferences. Okay, I mean,
come on, there is a little bit
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of a selfish motivation to do that. Typically you then start with a joke
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to break the ice and kind of
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because you're the guest speaker, and
then you'll launch into your message. Now
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some forego those pleasant trees and just
jump right in. I'm not saying it's
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right or wrong. I'm just saying
it's a template that's there. But I'm
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interested. Peanut, butter and jelly. What is what is that introduction?
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Someone's got to find it. Someone's
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before me. So let me know. Are here we go And I don't
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know. I think I'm afraid to
ask. But anyway, anyway, that
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was clever and I liked it.
But anyway, anyway, Psalm seventy seven.
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I'm gonna get up and get going
here, and brother Allison will be
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along in a few minutes, and
you're gonna love what he does as well,
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Psalm seventy seven. And I'm gonna
read a good little bit of this
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here because I want you to get
the picture. Top of the chapter,
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Verse one, I cried unto God
with my voice, even into God with
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my voice, and He gave ear
unto me. In the day of my
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trouble, I sought the Lord.
My sore ran in the night and ceased.
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Not my soul refused to be comforted. I remembered God and was troubled.
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I complained, and my spirit was
overwhelmed. Now that's an interesting phrase
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right there. Now he does mention
this. I just jumped out at me
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today because when I was listening to
it, I was in the car.
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And that's always the difficulty when you're
in a car. You can't sometimes be
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looking at the text. But right
there that Psalm seventy seven, verse three,
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I remembered God and was troubled.
I remembered God and was troubled.
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When does your remembrance of God?
When does your memory of God make you
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troubled? What does it mean by
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So Psalm seventy seven to three.
Like if I was listening to this sermon
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and I was there, I was
in the church, I was like this
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preaching conference, I would immediately wrote
Psalm seventy seven three, and I would
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have put a question mark, and
I would have written something really fast like
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look up later, research later,
study later, what is going on here?
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How why is he trouble? I
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a quick note, I wanna started
looking any cross references up or looking anything
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else up because I want to get
back to listening. But I wanted I
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would want to put something down on
paper as fast as I could so that
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I could remember that is fascinating to
me. Like I remembered God and I
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was troubled. Not I remembered God
and I found peace. I remember God
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and I was comforted. I remembered
God and I was happy. Now I
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remembered God and I was troubled.
Like, now is that? Is there
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something with the Hebrew there? Now
I'm looking at the new King James.
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He's reading the King James. So
those are the thing my other Well,
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we could look it up, but
then we're gonna get we're gonna get off
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site. That we're gonna get off
track, right or I'm gonna get off
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track. You're just following wherever I
go, So I guess you wouldn't technically
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be off track. Well, you
would be following me off into the wilderness
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somewhere who knows, and we'd fall
off the edge of a cliff. We
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got to stay focused because we got
to get to that point in the sermon
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where I was like, I'm driving
the car and I'm like pause, pause,
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stop it, stop it right here, stop it right here, right
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Well, it'll be interesting if you
know when when I paused it it we
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could put money down. Can you
predict when I was listening to this sermon
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exactly when I hit pause, because
I was like, wait, what did
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he just say? And then you
got that sala word, which basically said
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says, consider this, or think
of that, Thou holdest mine eyes waking.
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I am so troubled that I cannot
speak. I've considered the days of
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old, the years of ancient times. I called a remembrance my song in
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the night. I commune with mine
own heart and my spirit made diligent search.
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Will the Lord cast off? Forever? Will he be favorable? No
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more? Is his mercy clean gone
forever? Doth his promise fail? Forevermore?
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Hath God forgotten to be gracious?
Hath he in anger shut up his
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tender mercies? All nine of these
verses are really kind of a litany of
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complaints, statements of doubt, hesitation. I mean, things are going haywire.
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You know what's going on here?
Basically, it's what he's what he's
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asking. Verse ten and I said, this is my infirmity, but I
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will remember the years of the right
hand of the Most High. I will
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remember the works of the Lord.
Surely I will remember thy work, thy
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wonders of old. I will meditate
also of all thy work, and talk
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of thy doings. Thy way,
old God is in the sanctuary. Who
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is so great a god as our
God. Thou art the God that doest
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wonders. Thou hast declared thy strength
among the people. Thou hast with thine
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arm redeemed thy people. The sons
of Jacob and Joseph Saylah the word.
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The waters saw thee old God.
The waters saw thee They were afraid.
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The depths also were troubled. The
clouds poured out our water. The skies
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sent out a sound thine eras also
went abroad. The voice of Thy thunder
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was in the heaven. The lightnings
lightened the world. The earth trembled and
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shook. Thy way is in the
sea, and thy path in the great
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waters, and thy footsteps are not
known. Now, let us thy people
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like a flock by the hand of
Moses and Aaron. Now five times in
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that chapter a little preposition in I
in is just kind of tucked in there
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and not without significance. And let
me illustrate it like this. Okay,
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so five times we have the word
in n I in. Let's see if
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we can find them, all right, I cry, Now, hang on,
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he's using the King James. Right, I'm using the new King James.
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Let me grab a King James.
Here we go. I got one
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right here, all right. Let
me let me open up the Psalm seventy
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seven. Let's see if we can
find them. All right. He says
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that this is not without significance,
that this is a significant, a significant
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thing, that this is used five
times. In fact, he's going to
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build his whole SERMONI it's called God
is in I in right, So he's
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building his whole sermon on the five
times that this is used. All right.
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So this, this is fascinating to
me. Now, when I was
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driving the car, I didn't have
a chance to look right there when it
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was reading it. I was trying
to look because I knew this part,
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because I heard this part. So
but this is not where I stopped it.
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This is not where I stopped it. I just when I was driving
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the car, I'm like, oh, I'm gonna have to go home and
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look those up. So now let's
look them up. Are you ready?
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Here we go. So I cried
under God with my voice, even under
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God with my voice, and he
gave ear and to me. All right,
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So we don't have any in verse
one, verse two. In the
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day of my trouble, I sought
the Lord, So there's use of inn,
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but it's not talking about God.
Is in just as in the day
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of my trouble. But all right, So there's in. I sought the
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Lord. My sore ran in the
night, whether it's in the night.
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So in the day and in the
night, there's twice. So in the
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day of my trouble, I sought
the Lord. My sore ran in the
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night, and cease not my soul
refused to be comforted. So it's used
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twice in verse two. One in
the day of my trouble and in the
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night. Number So let's go to
verse three. I remembered God and was
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troubled. I complained at my spirit, and my spirit was overwhelmed. Thou
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holdest mine eyes walking waking. I'm
sorry, I am so troubled that I
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cannot speak I have So we don't
have it. So hang on, we
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don't have it. In verse one, we don't have it. In verse
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three, we don't have it.
In verse four, I have considered the
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days of all the years of age, we don't have it. In verse
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five reade correctly, I've considered the
days of old, the years of ancient
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times. I called or rememberan to
my song in the night. All right.
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So there's the third use of inn
in the day, in the night,
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and then in the night is repeated
again. Uh in verse six,
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So there's three times I commune with
my own heart and my spirit made diligent
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search. Will the Lord cast off
forever? And will he be favorable?
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No more? Is his mercy clean
gone forever? Doth his promise fell forever?
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More? A right? So we
don't we don't have it in those
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verses verse nine, hath God for
hath God forgotten to be gracious? Hath
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he? And anger shut up tender
mercies. There's the fourth one, all
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right, So let's go through these
verse two, in the day of my
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trouble in the night, then we
have the next one is in verse six,
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in the night. So we have
in the day of trouble in the
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night, in the night, and
now we have in anger hath he in
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anger? All right, So let's
go through them again. Verse Let's see,
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let's count these, or let's put
these down in the day of my
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trouble. There's number one in the
night, number two, and the number
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three is in the night, and
verse six, and then in anger is
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number four. So we just need
one more. We need one more.
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And I said, this is my
infirmity, this is verse ten. But
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I will remember the years of the
right hand of the Most High. I
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will remember the works of the Lord. Surely, I will remember thy wonders
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of old. I will meditate also
of thy work and talk of thy doings.
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Thy way, Oh, God is
in the sanctuary. There's number five,
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all right, And I don't see
anymore. Oh wait, verse nineteen.
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In the sea, there's in the
sea, in great waters, so
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I know I see more, all
right, So that's that would be seven.
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So I see seven times, not
five times, but none of them.
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Our way is in the sea.
Okay, God's way is in the
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sea, and thy paths in the
great waters. I guess that could refer
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to Inn. But the whole sermon
is called God is in. God is.
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He's gonna build his entire illustration on
this concept that God is in and
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he's barred. It seems to be
taking that. He says five times,
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and saw him seventy seven inn is
used. All right, let's let him
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build that out. I'm I'm a
little perplexed now now I'm a little confused.
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I'm a little confused here. I'm
a little confused here, but you
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can and if I missed one,
I apologize, but I don't want to
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go too long on that. Let's
let him build this out. He's going
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to start by trying to explain the
significance of in by giving us an illustration.
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And well, you can tell me
if this illustration seems to fit the
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way the word end is used.
And so I'm seventy seven. I'm a
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little confused, but let's see if
we can find it. A number of
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years ago, while I was a
pastor in Maryland, we had a young
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doctor, a medical doctor, showed
up on Sunday and his family and getting
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acquainted with him and the lobby.
On the way out, I said to
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him, if it'd be acceptable to
them, I'd like to stop by and
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see them sometime. He said,
come buy my office. And I said,
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well, you're a busy physician,
I said, is that good?
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He said, I will make time. He said you tell them when you
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come in, and he said,
I'll post my office. They'll be expecting
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you. So I on a day
that week, I think might have been
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a Tuesday or something. I went
by and I had three questions that I
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raised. When I walked in,
I said to the receptionist, I said,
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is the doctor in? Then I
said she said yes, and I
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said, well is he available?
Yes? And then I said, well
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may I see him? So you
can see how he's building the illustration.
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Is the doctor in? Is he
available? And can I see him?
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Keep those three down right? But
is the doctor in? Is he available?
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And can I see him? What
he's going to do? He's gonna
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now flip that over to God?
Is God in? Is he available?
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And can I see him? All
right? So, but the doctor is
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in? God is in? The
doctor is in? God is in.
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You can see where this is going
to go. I mean, I'm kind
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of jumping the gun a little bit, But now does that fit Psalm seventy
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seven with the word in his Psalm
seventy seven? Is God is in?
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God is available and you can see
him? Now? I think this is
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a clever I think this is a
clever opening illustration and there's a part of
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me that really likes it. I
just don't know if I can it's got
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in? Is he available? And
can I see him? Do I derive
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that from Psalm seventy seven? Maybe
you can't. I'm gonna now this,
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this is not where I pause the
sermon, right, So this this is
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just me now listening to it again, going hmm, there's okay, just
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trying to get as much from this
as possible. All right. This is
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you know, whenever you listen to
a sermon, you want to get as
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much from it as possible. Even
if you disagree with every bit of it,
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you still want to get as much
from it as possible. So all
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right that like I almost want to
like if I was in a hermonuticts class,
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I would tell, all right,
class, here's what we're gonna do.
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All right. And so I'm seventy
seven. We have the word in
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ie in it's used. I think
we found seven. I think maybe seven
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times seven or eight times? All
right, And what I'm what I want
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you to do is I'm gonna give
you an opening sermon illustration. This guy
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worked, this doctor visited at church. The pastor is like, hey,
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can I stop by and see you
like, come by my office. So
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when when the doctor, when the
pastor this doctor visited the church, the
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pastor is like, hey, can
I visit you? The doctor said,
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come by my office. So when
the pastor arrived at the doctor's office,
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he said, is the doctor in? Is he available? And can I
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see him? In this sermon,
the pastor uses this as an illustration of
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God that God is in, He's
available and we can see him. Can
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you derive that from the text of
Psalm seventy seven? And I would just
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then give that to the class and
then leave and say, okay, guys,
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I'm back. Now after about an
hour two hours, what did you
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find? What did you find?
Let's see what he does with this.
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But this is clearly the direction he's
going. I know, I'm kind of
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jumping the gun a little bit there, but here we go. Yes,
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now, all of that was contingent
upon the fact that the doctor was in.
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Had he not been there, I
mean I could have chatted all day
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long, I could have waited all
day long, and yet there would have
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been no exchange of conversation. Nothing
would have been accomplished. Now, for
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whether it be me, the doctor
or one of you we can't be everywhere,
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we can't do it all because we've
got limits. But when I ask
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those same questions in reference to God, it's a different matter. When I
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asked the question is God in?
Yes, he's in, night or day
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He's in, I asked the second
question is he available? Oh? Yes,
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He's always available, And then the
question is may I see him?
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Will he talk to me? Do
I have access to him? That's a
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pretty interesting opening illustration. I could
probably do with something with that. Is
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God in? Is God in?
God is in? Is he in?
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God is in? Yes? Is
he available? And do I have access
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to him? Can I see him? All? Right? Now, I
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think it's more about you know,
obviously we cannot see him, but do
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I have access to him? Okay? All right? Well, I could
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probably look some scriptures it's God in
or I could probably find some scriptures saying
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God is in, He is,
He is, forever, he was,
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is and will forever be. I
could probably find some scriptures about the existence
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of God. God is in?
Is God in? Yes? God is
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in? Is he available? Right? Okay? Well? Is he available?
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I could probably find some scriptures.
Do I have access to him?
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Will I have access to him?
Through Jesus Christ. I probably could use
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those three points. And now I
could come back to maybe a Bible study
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class as ic class. Here's these
three concepts. Find scriptures that support each
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one. So if you want a
little Bible study exercise, go find the
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scriptures that would say God is in
that would somehow support that concept. Is
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he available? Is God available?
And can we see him? Or do
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we have access to him? Find
those scriptures. So maybe we could do
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something with that. But now we're
getting really close to the point where so
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at this point I'm just listening.
I'm driving. Yeah, I'm listening.
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Okay, And now this is where
I almost wreck the car. It's coming
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up really soon. Here we go, and not only are all the questions
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answerable with yes, but the interesting
thing is he's really been expecting us.
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I mean, after all, in
these days where you and I live,
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with all of the violence and all
of the societal upheaval and expressions of hatred
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and cheating and all kinds of things
to discourage us and alarming things going on,
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I mean, the question has to
be raised. I mean, can
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we can we in these days?
Can we be Christians like Christians ought to
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be? Can we have revival in
these times. I mean, what about
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soul winning? What about all these
things that are laid out in the Bible
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for us? Is all of that
doable in twenty twenty four in the United
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States of America? Is it possible? Now I've read this chapter and I
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discover some things. Number One,
I discover that God was in history.
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That God was in history. All
right, that I can see that,
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like if you're using Psalm seventy seven
to say God was in history. I
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started really focusing on the word in
that whenever I open the Old Testament,
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God is in history. That okay, wait, we can verify that in
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the beginning God. God was in
the beginning. God was in the garden.
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God was in the situation with God
was here, and God was here.
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God shows up over and over and
over God is it? Okay?
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All right, I can do something
with that. All right. So far,
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that's actually a great point. God
is in history. Okay, all
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right? He said that's number one. All right. Now I'm gonna,
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i know, trying to stop this
and cutting him off, but I'm just
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trying to work our way through this. So just listen carefully because he's going
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to say the next thing really quick. You look back, look to the
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days of the past, and God
was there. Now, God does not
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control everything. That's where I almost
wrecked the car. God does not control
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everything. There are things God doesn't
control. Now I'm I am saying that
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he had Clearly he's just he just
misspoke it. Clearly, he just I
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mean, there's no way he believes
God isn't in control of everything. Now,
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maybe he does, but I'm gonna
at least give him the benefit of
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the doubt because typically, as Christians, we believe God is sovereign, he
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is in control of all things.
Now now I know for some we don't
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like that because if God is in
control of all things, that raises some
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serious questions about the bad things that
happen. So maybe if you say God
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is not in control of all things, then you get God off the hook.
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Hey, hey, this happens,
Well, God is not in control
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of that. God is not in
control of that. But if God is
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not in control of it, then
is God God? Can you be God
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and not in control? If those
things that God does not control, are
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they then not a God in and
of themselves? And why doesn't God control
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them? Because he just chooses not
to control, well, how many things
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has God chosen not to control?
Now, for you, let's just throw
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this out as a philological question.
Does it make it easier for you to
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believe God is in control of all
things? Or does that lead you to
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some major philosophical problems that you just
cannot handle? Or does it make you
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feel better that God is it in
control of all things? Or does that
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lead you to philosophical problems that you
can't handle. Do you believe God is
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in control of all things? And
if so, how do you handle the
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philosophical problems that's going to or arise
from that position? Or do you believe
611
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God is not in control of all
things? And how do you handle the
612
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philosophical problems that arise from that position? What position are you in? Are
613
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you on the side of God is
in control of all things and this is
614
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how I handle the philosophical problems?
Or are you on team God is not
615
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in control of all things and this
is how you handle those problems? Which
616
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one are you on? Now?
I'm gonna go with the idea that I
617
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just don't think there's no way.
There's no way he means that right,
618
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God is not in control of all
things? Just if God can't control,
619
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if God is not in control of
all things, what would be the point
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of even praying? Like I would
need a list of all the things God
621
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doesn't control, and then there's no
point in praying. Right, If God
622
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doesn't have control, can he do
anything about it? And he said,
623
00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:27.519
well, he could do something about
it, but he just chooses not to
624
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do something about it. Well,
if God chosen not to do certain things
625
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in these areas he's not controlling,
then there's no point in praying about that,
626
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which would make it a lot easier
to limit what you're praying about.
627
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Hey, guys, no, no, no, no, no, I
628
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know it's Wednesday night prayer meeting.
Don't pray about those things. God is
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not in control of those things,
nor is he going to exercise control over
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those things until a specific time.
Well, then there's no point in praying
631
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about it, right, I mean, if you think about it, if
632
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you believe that man's will is the
ultimate determinate, the ultimate thing that determines
633
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whether someone is going to be saved
or not. It is the individual's will,
634
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and God does not control that will, and he allows that will to
635
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be truly free, then there's no
point in praying for someone's salvation, because
636
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if God is gonna get involved in
trying to get someone saved, then he's
637
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he's he's placing influence upon their will. That's not a free will. You
638
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:24.280
got to if that will is free, you got to let them choose,
639
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right, you can't have God getting
involved in it, right, He's got
640
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to respect that free will. So
is God in control or not in control?
641
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That cut me off guard. That's
where I had paused. I have
642
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:42.159
not heard a second after that.
I immediately just stopped the car. I
643
00:45:42.159 --> 00:45:44.960
didn't stop the car. I pause
and just kept driving and just kept driving.
644
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:50.199
Finally got on the right highway,
drove got home. I'm like,
645
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okay, and then I had a
million things to do and then it's be
646
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Yeah, it's been crazy all day. So I have not had a chance
647
00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:58.800
to listen to the rest, and
I work forty five minutes. I think
648
00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:00.679
we should just stop and you go
figure it out. No, No,
649
00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:05.519
I've got to hear a little bit
more to at least determine is he Is
650
00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:08.039
he going to clarify this in any
way, shape or form. I think
651
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:10.960
we're going to know in the next
few minutes. Right, So all right,
652
00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:15.159
So there we go. God is
in history. God does not control
653
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all things, and he does not
cause everything that goes on he does.
654
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God does not control all things,
and he does not cause all things to
655
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occur. So he's literal sod.
This seems to me that he's doubling down,
656
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:40.519
he's not correcting it. Hey,
God does not control all things and
657
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he does not cause all things.
Now this would go greatly against say,
658
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:49.760
the London Baptist Confession of Faith.
If you read the chapters on God's eternal
659
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decrees, God's providence. I think
you can look up those chapters in the
660
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London Baptist Confession of Faith sixteen eighty
nine. The same you should be able
661
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to find the same chapters in the
Westminster Confession of You can look at them.
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Now you may be on the team
that God does not control and God
663
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does not cause all things. God
does not control, God does not cause.
664
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So you're removing God greatly from what's
happening. Now that may work for
665
00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:15.719
you philosophically, I can understand.
Look, there's a part of me that
666
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:21.400
can understand this. Look you look
around at the world. Obviously it makes
667
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:24.039
it. It may make it a
little easier from a thiological perspective, we
668
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go, well, obviously God is
not controlling all things. The world seems
669
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:30.199
out of control. This has happened, this has happened, or this happened
670
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:34.239
to me. That God obviously is
not in control. And clearly God did
671
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not cause these horrible things to happen. So I'm going to remove God from
672
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it. But if you remove God
from it, where are you left.
673
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What are the implications of saying God
is not in control and God does not
674
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cause all things? What are the
implications? Because if God doesn't cause all
675
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things, he still has to be
somehow involved. Unless you're now going to
676
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say God does not know all things. But in the beginning God, if
677
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he knows all things, well,
then in a roundabout way, he knows
678
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:10.480
exactly what's going to happen. So
he's in control because if he allows it
679
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to happen, he's in control all
right. Now, See, if you
680
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say he's not in control, then
it's not that he just doesn't allow it,
681
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:22.360
allows it. He doesn't have any
control. That would be really confusing.
682
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.840
And he doesn't cause all things.
But if he knew before he created
683
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what was going to happen, he
created the very things that's going to cause
684
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:32.159
it to happen. Then in some
ways you still have to bring it back
685
00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:38.400
to God. Right, let's see
where this goes. But he has,
686
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with premeditation and purpose, said an
ultimate course for this world. That and
687
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:49.480
it's going to come out the way
he said it's going to come out.
688
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:54.400
Okay, wait a minute, everything
is going to turn out the way he
689
00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:58.360
wants it to turn out. But
he doesn't control all things, and he
690
00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:04.599
doesn't cause all things. With pre
meditation, he said, everything on course,
691
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:07.000
and it's gonna turn out the way
he wants it to turn out.
692
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:10.559
Yet he doesn't control all things,
and he doesn't cause all things. Well,
693
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:14.039
if he doesn't cause all things,
how is it going to turn out
694
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:16.480
the way he wants it to turn
out unless he's controlling and causing. How
695
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:20.360
can you say, on one hand, God does not control and God does
696
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:23.760
not cause, but he premeditated set
everything on course to turn out just the
697
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:27.079
way he wants it to turn out. How can it turn out the way
698
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:30.639
he wants to turn out unless he's
controlling and causing. That's the most I
699
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:36.719
am so baffled by this. I
am I am okay, No, I'm
700
00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:38.679
glad I stopped the car I'm glad
to stop the car because I probably would
701
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:40.320
have wrecked it at that point.
I don't. I don't. I don't
702
00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:44.679
even know, because now I'm just
now I don't get it. So God
703
00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:47.280
doesn't cause. God doesn't control,
God doesn't cause all things. But yet
704
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:52.920
he with pre meditation, set everything
on course to end up exactly the way
705
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:57.880
he ended he wants it to end
up. Is it going to end up
706
00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:01.440
just by chance? By luck?
Just oh, look at that. It
707
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:04.960
just worked out the way I wanted
to. I didn't. I didn't control
708
00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:07.400
it, and I didn't cause it. The how does it end up the
709
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:15.119
way God wants it? If he's
not controlling and he's not causing. The
710
00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:17.079
King's hand is in the heart of
the is in the hand of the Lord.
711
00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:22.119
And you'd have to just study the
nation of Israel a little bit to
712
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:27.360
see that God has purpose there and
he has effected that every step of the
713
00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:34.159
way. Wait, God has the
king's heart in his hand. Just consider
714
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:37.800
the nation of visual He affected it. We wait a minute, So does
715
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:43.000
he does he? Does he control? And does he cause? That sounds
716
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:46.760
like causation? That that sounds like
he's causing something. Right, That sounds
717
00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:51.639
like he's controlling something. So I
don't get it. How can God not
718
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:55.639
be controlling everything and not causing everything? Yet you're the immediately go into he
719
00:50:55.760 --> 00:51:06.800
has the king's heart in his hand, and he's influencing what happened. And
720
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:10.920
if you and I here in the
United States, if we look around,
721
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:17.400
we have to acknowledge we have been
blessed of God. Beyond calculation, we
722
00:51:17.559 --> 00:51:24.440
have been blessed. Now I look
into the pages of history and I see
723
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very clearly God was in for Moses, he was in for Joshua. He
724
00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:40.000
was God controlling and causing in the
life of Moses and Joshua, or those
725
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:45.159
were the areas where He was controlling
and was causing. But there's other areas
726
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:50.480
he doesn't control or cause. Can
we only say God caused and controlled what
727
00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:52.519
we read in scripture and everything else, we have no idea of God's causing
728
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:58.360
it. If God is in control, and if we don't know if God
729
00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:01.320
is causing or in control, then
there's really no point in praying. Hey,
730
00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:04.760
God, I'm praying about this.
I have no idea If you're in
731
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:07.360
control of this, and I don't
even know if you're causing it or not
732
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:09.400
causing it. I don't know.
I guess I could still pray about it.
733
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I guess he was in for Elijah, he was in for John the
734
00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:22.199
Baptist, he was in for Isaiah, he was in for Paul. We
735
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:25.239
get a little closer to home,
he was in for Moody, he was
736
00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:30.159
in for John Rice. And he's
in for us. He's here, and
737
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:36.360
yes, we can see him very
clearly in history. Now you look at
738
00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:42.239
verses twelve and thirteen, and that
tells me that God is in today as
739
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:45.280
well. He said, I will
meditate of all thy work and talk of
740
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:52.639
thy doings. Sounds to me like
present tense stuff. God is in today
741
00:52:53.679 --> 00:53:05.199
that had been present tense stuff for
the Psalmist. I will meditate also of
742
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:08.719
all thy work and talk of thy
doings. That sounds present tense to the
743
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:14.079
one writing the psalm. I don't
know how yet. Okay, all right,
744
00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:16.800
okay, But I'm still trying to
figure out. God is not in
745
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:22.119
controlling, doesn't cause all things.
Yet God premeditated everything to come out a
746
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:23.320
certain way, and it's going to
work out that way. And God was
747
00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:27.400
in with this person, this person, this person, this person. But
748
00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:35.079
was he controlling and causing or was
he just passively watching. Hey, this
749
00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:38.960
is the day the Lord has made. Bible tells us today. If you
750
00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:43.920
will hear his voice, harden not
your hearts. Now is the accepted time.
751
00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:49.800
Behold, now is the day of
salvation. Folks, Revivals lack revivals
752
00:53:49.800 --> 00:53:53.480
ought to be, are not relics
of the past. They're not today.
753
00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:58.960
The power of God's available today.
Victory can be had. I mean we
754
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:04.440
don't. We don't have to live
in the throes of defeat. We don't
755
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:07.880
have to, you know, have
our chin hang into our shoelaces every hour
756
00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:15.280
of the day or night. Do
we have victory because of us and we
757
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:19.159
pull it off? Or do we
have victory of God? And if God
758
00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:22.039
is one causing the victory, is
he causing it? Is he controlling it?
759
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:30.119
But God is not in control and
God doesn't cause all things to happen.
760
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:35.239
Is that just our our like,
Hey, something bad happened. God
761
00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:40.000
was not in control and God did
not cause it. But God can intervene.
762
00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:49.199
I don't all right, God is
in heaven. God is still in
763
00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:52.000
today and available to us when we
need him, when we want him,
764
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:57.519
whenever we need to have his presence
with us. Not only that, but
765
00:54:57.639 --> 00:55:02.039
verse fourteen tells me that God is
in very powerful way, says thou art
766
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:08.039
the God that do us wonders.
And that word wonders is it's like miracles.
767
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:15.159
It's like God demonstrating himself in a
powerful kind of a way, in
768
00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:19.960
a supernatural kind of a way.
You know, we get all enamored with
769
00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:25.480
atomic power and some of the things
that go on with that stuff. Every
770
00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:30.599
time I get on a get on
an airplane. I mean, you know,
771
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:34.960
I have flown and flown and flown
and flown over the years, many
772
00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:38.119
many, many hundreds and hundreds of
flights, and I'm telling you every time,
773
00:55:38.159 --> 00:55:42.280
I can't help it. Every time
I get on an airplane, whether
774
00:55:42.320 --> 00:55:45.039
it's a seven thirty seven, which
what I found most of the time,
775
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:49.119
or something else, and they put
one hundred and seventy five people in that
776
00:55:49.199 --> 00:55:53.280
thing or more and bigger planes,
and all of them with luggage, oh
777
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:59.320
my mind, luggage baggage. I
mean, people are dragging so much stuff
778
00:55:59.360 --> 00:56:00.280
onto the plane. I mean,
we got to have one of this and
779
00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:05.480
two of that and gotta take it
with us. And I'm the same way,
780
00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:09.880
you got all of that weight,
they pull that thing back, and
781
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:13.760
I mean any number of times I've
said, is this thing gonna fly?
782
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:17.960
You know? But I studied just
a little bit and I figured out,
783
00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:21.960
I mean, you you put the
throttle to that thing, it doesn't have
784
00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:28.280
any choice. It's got to fly. And just the theory of the philosophy
785
00:56:28.280 --> 00:56:31.679
of aerodynamics, it's it's got to
fly. But sometimes when that thing's heavily
786
00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:36.159
loaded and it's it's picking up speed
and it's up to one hundred miles an
787
00:56:36.199 --> 00:56:37.960
hour and one hundred and eighty miles
an hour and whatever to take off,
788
00:56:38.239 --> 00:56:43.000
and all of once that thing starts
going and lumbering up you know all my
789
00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:45.159
I mean I mean that that.
I mean, we're enamored with that.
790
00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:51.559
I just can't imagine that we could
get that heavy thing up there. And
791
00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:58.400
I'm even more amazed they can get
on the ground safely. But I'm telling
792
00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:01.280
you that, like a lot of
the things, is a gift of God.
793
00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:07.519
It's a gift from God to us. So it's a gift of God.
794
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:14.159
So God is not in control.
God does not cause all things,
795
00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:19.199
but he gives gifts to bring about
all things. But then wouldn't he not
796
00:57:19.320 --> 00:57:27.360
be the ultimate cause of those things? Like if God is giving gifts to
797
00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:30.920
men so that we can develop flight. Then God would be the ultimate cause
798
00:57:31.360 --> 00:57:36.360
for flight, because He's the one
who gave the gift for man to be
799
00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:39.599
able to develop that. So is
that not God causing it? I am
800
00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:45.920
so confused, Like when you tell
everyone God does not control all things and
801
00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:50.519
God does not cause all things.
I would feel that the rest of the
802
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:55.440
sermon would need to be all about
what God does not cause and what God
803
00:57:55.559 --> 00:58:00.639
does not control, and then what
God God does cause, and what God
804
00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:08.320
does control and all of it.
I mean it lays the power of God
805
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:14.039
into our lap. I mean this
whole world and the way it functions.
806
00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:20.559
I mean absolutely testimony to the Almighty
God is in. He's in today,
807
00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:25.079
and he's in in a powerful way. So wait, everything about the planet
808
00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:30.159
and all thing around us, that's
God. So God is causing it or
809
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:35.719
controlling it? Does God control everything
to keep the planet operating? I don't
810
00:58:35.800 --> 00:58:39.000
understand what does God not cause or
control? Then, like on one end,
811
00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:42.719
God does not control everything, caused
all things, but it sounds like
812
00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:49.480
everything else is God, God,
God, God. God. At thirteenth
813
00:58:49.559 --> 00:58:54.599
verse says that he's in the sanctuary. Well in the Old Testament, he
814
00:58:54.719 --> 00:59:00.679
was in in a place New Testament
era. He's in the believer, He's
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in us. We're never alone,
folks. I mean, the heat may
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be on, but we're never alone. We may have critics, but we're
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never alone. We may not be
able to pay a rent, but the
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but we're never alone. We may
not be feeling well, but we're not
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alone. If we are born again, the spirit of the God comes to
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dwell in us, live within us. God is in. He's right there,
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dark of the night, light of
the day. He's in when he's
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on the sanctuary. We are the
sanctuary. We're occupied, We're inhabited.
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You know, I think about some
of the some of the times, you
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know, quite a number of years
ago now, when Bett and I walked
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out of the denominational group that we
were attached to to become independent Baptists.
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We walked out on the street with
nobody in this crowd at that point who
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knew us. And the people in
the other crowd were kicking us as we
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went. And I walked out with
a house payment and car payments and two
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kids and the dog defeed. And
you say, what's the deal? God
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was in. God was in,
He saw us through he got us through
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God. So God doesn't control all
things. God doesn't cause all things,
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but he jumped in and helped cause
and control let us out, and God
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us in where we needed to be. God has helped us all along the
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way. I think about so many
many times when God has just let himself
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be known. It's like, hey, you're not alone, buddy, just
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hanging there. Sometimes, you know, things maybe get a little cross ways
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and you start looking at something before
you open your mouth and say something you
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ought not to say, or something
pops within your viewfinder, and it's like,
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you know, rather than then looking
at things you ought not to look
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at, you remind that somebody living
inside of you. You're not alone.
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God is there, and it reminds
you. It strengthens you. It enabled
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you to make the turns that you
need to make and look away or not
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pay attention to whatever is happening.
Not only that, but verse fifteen tells
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me that God is in and mighty
to save that. Fifteenth verse says thou
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hast with thine arm redeemed. Thy
people, listen, I'm telling you,
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you know, we guys, we
guys win. You know, we like
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to flex our muscle a little bit. You know, my grandchildren come around
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and grab me by the arm,
and I look at them, I say,
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hey, don't hurt yourself. Don't
hurt yourself when they grab hold of
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that. You know, it's got
to be that kind of a story and
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a joke. You know now that
if I walk up and have one of
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them by their arm, they'll say
that to me. Smart kids. But
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anyway, you know, I mean, we talk about our little dab of
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strength, and it's nothing compared to
what God does when he finds a sinner.
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And I mean it doesn't have to
be somebody who's down in the dregs
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of life. It can be some
little boy just nine or ten years of
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age, and as we would say, I mean still in the in the
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emergence from innocence, but nonetheless a
sinner. None the less, we children
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have a state of innocence, but
yet still a sinner. If you're a
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sinner, you can't be innocent.
This must be the age of accountability concept.
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I am. I'm not even as
baffled by that. I'm still confused
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by God does not control everything.
God does not cause all everything, but
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he's having God involved in everything.
So I don't understand and when God finds
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the sinner. Now is God the
one doing the saving or it would have
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to be us or unless because if
you say God controls and causes salvation,
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well, then now you're following.
Well, then they would have to go
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move towards a reformed understanding of salvation. You'd have to reform. You would
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have to move to a monogistic understanding
of salvation. And clearly, I know
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they believe in a synergistic type.
Clearly I know they do. As somebody
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that needs to be saved, well, a little boy or a little girl,
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or some grown man a woman,
whether it be somebody who's in a
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position of high power or somebody who's
walking the streets without a dime to their
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name. It does not matter.
God is able. God is mighty to
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save those who come to him.
God is able. But does God do
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it or does man do it?
Like God does not control all things,
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he doesn't cause all things. But
does he control and cause salvation? Or
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no? Jesus came to get center
saved. Our job is to get center
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saved. I mean we're commanded to
go after sinners. It's the heartbeat of
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God to get folks to the savior. All through the Bible, we see
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it God making the appeal to folks
to come to the Savior. I mean,
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what an unchanging mandate we have in
these days when so many churches are
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getting off the rails, so many
churches are heading off in some accommodation of
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the woke culture, some accommodation to
whatever the polls demand. Our mandate has
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not changed. I mean, we
still have that command to go after folks,
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reach folks. You say, what
folks, All folks, If they're
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breathing, we need to be after
them. Amen. God says he is
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in and his mighty arm is able
to redeem. Now I'm gonna stop right
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there because we're at sixty four minutes. Please look up the rest of that
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sermon. There's probably about ten minutes
of it left. Maybe God is in,
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doctor Shelton Smith. You can find
it on the sermon's two point zero
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app But I'm going to leave you
with kind of the question if you are
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you on the team that says,
are you on the philological side that says
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God is in control of all things
and God causes all things either directly or
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indirectly, utilizing secondary cause. Again, you can read the Westminster Confessional London
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Baptist Confession of Faith, and you
can see look at the chapters on God's
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decrees and God's providence. So are
you on the side that says God controls
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all things and causes all things?
Or are you on the side that says
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God does not control all things and
God does not cause all things. First
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determine which side you are on,
and then I want you to ask yourself
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what philosophical problems, theological problems do
you face on the basis of the side
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that you have chosen. Now,
look, side has its problems. If
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you say God controls all things and
causes all things, well you do you
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got to see some problems right now. I understand the Westminster in London Baptist
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and try to say, well,
God uses secondary causes, so God is
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not the direct cause. So like, well there's sin or death or this,
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Well God doesn't directly cause it,
but he uses satan or he does
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that. Okay, well then but
God is the one who created satan.
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So that to me is just kind
of like a semantics game we play.
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But the bottom line is, you
do realize it's going to lead you to
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some philosophical problems. If God controls
all things and causes all things. There's
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a lot of horrible things that happen
every single day in this world and has
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happened throughout the history of humankind.
Where was God? Why would God do
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this? That's a reasonable question and
challenge. If you say God does not
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control all things, he does not
cause all things, well, now you've
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got We'll wait a minute. If
God is not in control and God is
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not causing it, then these things
are operating independently of God. Then is
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God God? If there are things
running around independent of him, He's not
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sovereign, He's not I mean,
what what do you call something that's outside
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of the control of God? That
just seems to raise all kinds of pride?
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And then if God is not in
control of all things or cause all
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things, then what can Then God
is limited in what he can do because
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he doesn't control that, he's not
causing that. So then what how can
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When can God step in or not
step in? If those things are outside
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of his control, then God can
interject or he would be controlling that.
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That leaves all kinds of questions about
the even the existence of God. Is
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there more than one God? There's
all kinds of problems with that. So
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there you have it. God is
in doctor Shelton Smith. His hypothesis is
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God is not in charge of all
things or God. Yeah, God is
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not in charge of all things,
and God does not cause all things.
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God is not in control, I
should say, of all things, and
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he does not cause all things using
his words, that's his hypothesis. He
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does not articulate his hypotheses. He
doesn't explain it, he doesn't defend it,
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he doesn't justify it. In fact, the rest of the sermon seems
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to almost contradict what he said.
But that's irrelevant. It's not It's no
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longer about doctor Shelton Smith. It's
no longer about that preaching conference. I
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want you to go listen to that
preaching conference. I subscribe to doctor Shelton
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Smith's podcast. We would obviously have
a disagreement here, but it's not about
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him. It's not about him.
It's about this concept. Is God in
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control? And does God cause all
things? Is he control of all things?
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And does he cause all things?
Look, there's there's there. These
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sides cannot both be right. There
can only be one that's right. God
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is either in control and causes or
God is not in control and doesn't cause
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and then you have to deal with
the philosophy fallout of that. I would
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love to get your thoughts. You
can email me news if at yahoo dot
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com. That's the news I f
at yahoo dot com. Please look up
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that message. God is in.
But doctor Shelton Smith, please listen to
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the rest of it. If there's
something there that you're like, oh,
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you missed it. He completely explains
at the end, then let me know.
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Let me know asap, Let me
know asap. Okay, let me
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know. All right, Thanks for
listening everyone, Have a good night. God bless
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Looking at our world from a theological
perspective. This is the Theology Central podcast,
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making Theology Central Good evening everyone.
It is Tuesday, June the eleventh,
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twenty twenty four. It is currently
nine fifteen pm Central Time, and
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I am coming to you live from
the Theology Central studio located right here in
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Abilene, Texas. Now, have
you ever been listening to a sermon and
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all of a sudden, the pastor
says something and like you just immediately like,
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okay, stop it, stop it, time out, time. I
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don't care what is said after this? Wait a minute? What did he
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just say? Like you literally,
like you're say, you're listening to it
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on your phone or a tablet or
on a computer, and you just like
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pause. Now, if you're there
in person, I don't know what you
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do. Maybe just that moment,
all you can do is like, wait,
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what did he just say? What
did he just say? And all
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you can think about is what he
just said? And you may even have
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problems hearing what he's saying over the
next two or three minutes because you can't
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get over what was just said.
Now. Maybe sometimes if you're listening to
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it live two, three, four
minutes later, they come in and correct
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it, and you realize that they
just misspoke or they explain it, and
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you're like, okay, that makes
sense, But initially you were just absolutely
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shocked. And sometimes when you're listening, say you know, on demand with
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a phone or a tablet, you
just hit pause and you're like, wait
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a minute, there's just no way, there's no way, there's no way
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they could have said that. So
you may back it up, listen to
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it again, hit pause, going
no, let me listen to that again,
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and you listen to it three or
four times you're like, wait,
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that's what he said, and then
you're like, okay, okay, and
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then you listen to the rest to
find out if that's what they meant or
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if they just misspoke, or or
they explain it. In either case,
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whether you're listening to it live or
whether you're listening to it on demand,
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have you ever experienced one of those
just like what the world was that?
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There's no way they just said that. Now. I don't know how many
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times that's happened to you. There's
probably there. I would hate to say
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it. I think in some ways, if I'm being honest, I've had
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to experience that far more than I
would that. I want to say,
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like I hate to say, that's
happened, probably more than I want to
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even admit. Because what you would
like to say is every time you listen
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to preaching, it's wonderful, it's
great, it's edifying, it's amazing.
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There's never any incorrect doctrine. You
would like to be able to say that.
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But I think if you're honest with
yourself, I guess it really depends
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on how many, how much,
how much preaching you actually listen to,
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how many sermons you actually listen to. I think the more you listen to,
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the more you find yourself at times
going whoa wait wait what was that?
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No way back that up back?
No wait, what what was that?
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Well that happened to me today?
Let me explain what was going on.
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I was going to have to go
somewhere, so I grab my iPad,
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open up the sermon's two point oh
app and I just immediately just started
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downloading, downloading, downloading, downloading, so that I would have it on
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my iPad so that I could listen
wherever I was going. I could be
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like, you know, I'm gonna
since I can't be here, I'm going
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to try to listen to as many
sermons as I can to make good use
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of my time. So I started
downloading sermons, and all of a sudden
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I stumbled upon a sermon that was
a part of a series, and the
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series was entitled Preaching Conference twenty twenty
four. Preaching Conference twenty twenty four.
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Now I love. One of my
favorite things about the sermon's two point oh
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app is I love whenever I see, oh, someone's doing a conference,
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either they're broadcasting it live or I
stumble upon the conference and realize, oh,
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I missed it live. But here's
all of the messages. Because sometimes
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in preaching conferences you can kind of
see whether it's a preaching conference, Bible
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conference, any kind of conference,
revival services. You sometimes kind of get
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an idea when the more you listen
to what churches are emphasizing, Like if
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it's a youth conference, Oh that's
okay, this is what the church thinks
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the youth in twenty twenty four needs
to hear. Or if it's a men's
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conference, women's conference, whatever it
is, you can kind of get a
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feel what that church or that particular
denomination or that group really think is important.
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So I love trying to listen to
them. Now, I'm always I've
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always got a million other things that
I want to do, need to do,
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so I don't always get around to
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oh, preaching conference, right,
so let me give you all the
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information. This preaching conference was held
by Bethel Baptist Church. So if you
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look up Bethel Baptist Church on the
sermon's two point oh app the pastor of
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the church is doctor Rick Savage.
It's located in Jackson, Tennessee, and
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it says welcome to our church.
They have a kind of a welcome video,
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and then it says about us and
the heart of Ma County, West
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Tennessee, you will find Bethel Baptist
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believing Baptist church that has a desire
to worship God and has a heart for
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people. Bethel Baptist Church is established
in Jackson, Tennessee, nestled in the
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center of West Tennessee between Nashville and
Memphis. Jackson and Madison County offer a
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beautiful landscape, abundance of recreational opportunities, and close proximity to great dining and
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shopping. Jackson is a vibrant city
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surrounding counties. Now, I have
been somewhere around that area. I know.
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I definitely have driven through that area
and my trips to Tennessee in the
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past, so I probably have been
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know much about the church. So
I'm like, Okay, Well, they're
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holding a preaching conference. So I
clicked on the service preaching conference and I
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just started downloading the messages. The
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top going down may actually the first
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bottom, but okay, starting at
the top, the Praying Savior and Panicked
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Disciples, the Praying Savior and Panic
Disciples from Mark six forty five to fifty
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two. Well, that sounds interesting, all right, What kept Jesus on
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the cross? All right, Mike
Allison, all right, that could be
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interesting. The example of rehab Joshua
chapter two by doctor Alton Bill. All
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Right. Next, the Great Importance
of the Fear of God. The Great
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Importance of the Fear of God.
And I'm like, oh, there it
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is. That's that's the one.
I need to listen to. That one,
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because that's what we're spending all week
about so I made sure I downloaded
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that one. But then the very
next one is entitled God Is In by
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doctor Shelton Smith, and I'm like, oh, wait a minute. Shelton
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Smith. He's the editor of the
sort of the Lord newspaper. Oh,
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he has a day a Monday through
Friday podcast. It's about fifteen minutes long.
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Lord newspaper. I listened to his
podcast. Okay, hey, let you
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know what. I want to listen
to the Great Importance of the Fear of
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God. But I'm going to be
driving, so I'm now going to be
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able to take notes or anything,
and that one would be perfect to do
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a review. So let me just
go with God as In by doctor Shelton
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Smith, because he also does the
next three The Marks of a Good Man
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but doctor Shelton Smith, Heart Probing
Questions of Jesus, doctor Shelton Smith,
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and then a very good Man in
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so I'm like, okay, so
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that's the first one that he preaches, at least in that order.
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Most likely he started the conference at
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I don't know if there's any more
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only had a total of eight sermons. I don't know anything about the conference.
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So and some of these. Sometimes
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that do conferences and you post them
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for the first message for the conference, have someone because I know a lot
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of times the recordings start with the
person preaching, but have someone just you
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know, do a welcoming and have
that recorded for your on demand sermon or
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so that you can explain here's this
conference, here's this conference has been going
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on for five or ten years,
here's the theme of this year's conference,
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or here's what we're hoping to accomplish, because the listeners can have a little
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bit more insight. If I don't
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it's a preaching conference. Was there
a theme? Was it? Like?
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What what was what was the goal? Like? So a lot of
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times that's kind of left out.
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conference is there because it gives me
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Doctor Shelton Smith, God is in
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right? So I hit play.
I was driving down this kind of a
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just a normal kind of pedestrian street
in the city of Abilene, and then
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I at first I kind of went
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on the highway, and I ended
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wrong way. So then I had
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around, and then find the actual
turn to get on the freeway to go
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the right way back to my house. So it was when I finally got
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back on the kind of the access
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right when I was I think it
was right when I was getting back off
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the freeway, back on the exit
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find the right way to get back
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have to get on the freeway.
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it. Even though I've lived here
my whole life, I was still I
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still ended up going past where I
needed to turn right, because where you
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think you would turn you you actually
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all weird, needless to say,
I'm sitting there listening to this sermon like
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okay, okay, and then all
of a sudden, Doctor Sheldon Smith says
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something and I'm like, wait,
wh whoa wait wit he did not just
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say that? He and I immediately
reached over hit the hit pause. I
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hit pause on the IPAE leave it
right there. I don't want to hear
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anything else. I don't want to
hear anything else because what I'm going to
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do is save this and then I'm
gonna play it for everyone. Now,
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you if you were listening to the
sermon when we get to the spot,
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it would be interesting to know if
you would if you would have hit pause
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yourself, or if you would have
just been like what or you would have
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just been like whatever and keep going. I don't know how you would have
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reacted. But I immediately hit stop. I'm like no, no, so
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up and listened to I'm like,
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no way he meant that. I
know he didn't mean that he had to
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speak or he did. There's just
no way. There's no way he could
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admit that. So here's what I'm
doing. I'm starting it from the beginning.
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I'm going to play it up to
the spot. Now, I'll probably
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you know, interrupt, offer my
own thoughts right up till the spot where
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he says it. Then I'm gonna
stop. See if it bothers you or
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if you would be concerned, maybe
you wouldn't even be bothered or concerned.
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Then we're gonna find out what he
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Is he going to articulate, or
is he is he going to say
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it again and then say it the
correct way? Because look, there's a
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lot of times I'll get an email
and someone say you said this at the
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seven minute mark, and I'll be
like, wait what, and I'll go
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back and go, oh, oh
no, what was I thinking? And
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then I'll keep listening like, yeah, okay, I did say that,
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and there's no excuse for that,
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the correct way. So I do
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if I feel like if I catch
myself. I always try to corrected.
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I haven't in the beginning of this. You can start thinking you're gonna
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say this, and then you start
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in the middle. I mean,
there's all kinds of things you can say.
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Sometimes you can say something is just
completely theologically wrong and you didn't mean
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it that way. So I'm going
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that he doesn't really mean this and
that he's going to correct it. Now.
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You may not. You may agree
with maybe maybe maybe we find out
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he did not misspeak. This is
what he really means. You may agree
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with him, that's perfectly okay.
I'm going to hold on and disagree if
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he did. If he wasn't misspeaking, and that's what he really believes.
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I hope the entire sermon then is
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ladies and gentlemen, I have questions. Okay, but are you ready?
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Are you ready? So let's this
is what we'll do. Well, pretend
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you're you're in the car with me. Okay, you're in the car with
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me, all right, I mean, it's it's got to be like a
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big car. It's gotta it's got
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Okay, So everyone's in there,
okay, and all of the time
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I'm like, whoaoa pause, pause, and you're like no, no,
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no, everybody everybody in the back
seat's like no, no, keep going.
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So we're gonna keep going, and
we're gonna find out if I did
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I did I overreact, did I
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if I would have just listened a
little bit longer, would it all be
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no big deal? Now? I
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something, you know, my favorite
thing is I don't like to listen to
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it just by my I mean,
I'm sitting here in the studio listening to
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it by myself when I turn on
the microphone and just listening to it with
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everyone else. Right. So again, I don't know if he agrees with
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what he said, if it was
if it was misspeaked, if he misspoke,
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if he was just a mistake,
if he's going to correct. I
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have no idea what's going to happen
after it. So again, I know
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someone will I think so many people
so misunderstand the sermon reviews. Anytime I
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do a review, we're always reviewing
that which I have not heard. Now,
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the first part of this I have
heard, and I've made that transparent.
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Everything else I haven't heard. So
if I'm critical of it, people
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can get mad at me. But
I'm just listening to a sermon offering.
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It's so weird. People will email
me and say you're being critical or they're
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being critical of me. I'm like, well, if you can be critical
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of me, why can't I be
critical of someone else? So like,
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you can't criticize me being critical when
you're being critical to me, because either
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being critical is wrong all the time, or is it right sometimes. The
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point is is whenever you listen to
preaching, everyone makes some kind of judgment,
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whether you agree or disagree. Now
you may disagree or you may agree.
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The thing is you're not attacking the
person. You're attacking the concept.
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So here's how I'm going to state
it. He's gonna make a comment.
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I'm giving him the benefit of the
doubt, and so we're gonna listen to
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find out if that's what he really
means or did he just simply miss me.
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but we'll find out together, so
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that'll be fun. If he does
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it that's his hypotheses, and then
we're going to take that hypothesis and then
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we will work on it. We'll
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real time, I'll offer my possible
critique, or maybe I just pose it
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as a question for you to figure
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later on. So again, it's
not even going to be about I mean,
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look, I've told everyone to subscribe
to the Sort of the Lord.
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I tell last summer we reviewed the
sort of the Lord conference. We'll probably
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do the same thing this year.
I'm telling everyone to go find this preaching
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conference on the summer stood part oh
app and listen to all of it.
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By no means am I telling you
not to listen. I'm just saying that,
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hey, this he's put forth,
put forth hypotheses. At least I'm
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gonna well, I'm going to assume
first that he misspoke. Then if I
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find out that he didn't, then
that's hishypotheses, and then we'll challenge the
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hypothesis, will criticize the hypothesis.
We will criticize the doctrinal position without criticizing
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the person. All right, that
seems like, I don't know why that's
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a car Why is that controversial?
People have been doing that for the as
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you someone writes a book, you
read the book, you agree or disagree
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with the hypotheses, you disagree with
their thesis, you challenge it. That's
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what we do. We've been doing
it in theology since the beginning of theology.
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It's all in the Bible. This
person states this, Well, if
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that person is a false teacher,
and now that's a person's a false prophet,
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this is a false priest, this
is truth, this is falsehood.
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That's what happens. So I don't
know why that's controversial. But if I
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feel like now I have to explain
myself one hundred and fifty different ways to
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because I don't know, I think
it's well. Put it this way.
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It should be clear to anyone who
actually listens to this podcast exactly what I'm
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doing. Sadly, some people don't
seem to understand that. All right,
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but let's forget all of it.
Those people who don't like it, they
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can go find something else to listen
to. There's a million of other options.
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Please enjoy yourself. If you can't
find the podcast to your liking,
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by all means, I'm serious,
email me and I'll help you find the
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one that will make you happy.
Right, No use being unhappy with me.
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Go find someone else will make you
happy. All right, You're not
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stuck with me. You've got options. Okay, So but for everyone else,
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are you ready thinking capsion? We're
going to be in Psalm seventy seven,
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so you may want to open your
bibles. Here we go. This
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was preached or this was at least
published on I think June the third,
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twenty twenty four. Again from Preaching
Conference twenty twenty four Bethel Baptist Church.
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Look it up, Preaching Conference twenty
twenty four. I've given you the name
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of the people preaching, in the
name of the sermons. You should be
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able to find it. And look, you want to make one of the
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sermons you want to make a priority
the great importance of the fear of God,
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I mean, helps you fulfill one
of the assignments I gave you for
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our fear of the Lord focus this
week. So right there you get to
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hear a part of the conference,
and you get to hear a sermon that
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relates to our topic. It's a
win win, Okay. In the meantime,
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this is extra content free of charge, right because you know how I
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charge for all of our content.
I'm joking. All right, here we
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go. Are you ready? Let's
enjoy? Thank you, Thank you,
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ellis so very very much nicely done. Take your Bible please and turn to
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Psalm number seventy seven. Psalm number
seventy seven is my text tonight. I
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appreciate all the hospitality that's been extended
to me, as has always been the
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case through the years when I've been
here at Pastor's invitation, and certainly he
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and Miss Debbie have kept me taken
care of. They've put some goodies and
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had the goodies put in the room, so I had a lot of health
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food work with and some of it
was healthy. Uh and uh. And
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at the same time he's fed me
well, kept me, kept me fed.
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And I appreciate all of that so
very very much, and appreciate the
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friendship of all of you. God
bless you for coming. A good bunch
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of you were here yesterday and uh
and the crowd looks pretty good tonight as
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well, and so thank you for
coming. It's my joy and privilege to
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be able to preach with Brother Allison
once in a while. And uh,
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I told them, Brother Allison.
I think Betty's probably made this clear to
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you, but she's in fact,
she's watching where the camera is. Uh.
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But she she my wife has said
over and over again among her favorites.
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In fact, one of her big
favorites is brother Allison and uh.
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And I understand that because I love
to hear him as well. Now,
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I did have one little problem.
Pastor last night made that peanut butter and
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jelly uh introduction type thing, And
I'm setting over here saying to myself,
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which am I? You know,
I was trying to figure out where I
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fit into that equation. Now,
if anyone finds the message where there's the
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peanut butter jelly introduction and uh,
doctor Shelton Smith's trying to figure out which
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one was he peanut butter or jelly, if I can say it correctly,
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I'm interested in that introduction which which
sermon has the peanut, peanut butter and
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jelly introduction? And what was that
peanut butter and jelly introduction? About?
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What was the point of that introduction? And is he making an illustration that
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we're either peanut butter or jelly like? Is that? What does that even
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mean? I've got to find it. I haven't had a chance today to
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look it up. But if you
find it first, they let me know.
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Just just send me a summary.
The peanut butter and jelly illustration is
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this and this this is what determines
if you're peanut butter, and this determines
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of your joke. Was it something
to be humorous? Was it something funny?
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Was it a joke or was it
something spiritual? Now, and a
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lot of conferences you're you're kind of
you know that people follow a template.
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If you listen to conference speaking right, you always open up with thank you
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for your hospitality, thank you to
everyone here. It's been amazing. You've
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all been wonderful, You've been great. You do that, you endear yourself
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to the audience and to the people
who you know invited you there because you
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want to. You want to do
that so you'll be invited back to more
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conferences. Okay, I mean,
come on, there is a little bit
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of a selfish motivation to do that. Typically you then start with a joke
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to break the ice and kind of
get everyone laughing and feeling comfortable, and
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because you're the guest speaker, and
then you'll launch into your message. Now
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some forego those pleasant trees and just
jump right in. I'm not saying it's
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right or wrong. I'm just saying
it's a template that's there. But I'm
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interested. Peanut, butter and jelly. What is what is that introduction?
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Someone's got to find it. Someone's
got to You've you've got to find it
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before me. So let me know. Are here we go And I don't
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know. I think I'm afraid to
ask. But anyway, anyway, that
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was clever and I liked it.
But anyway, anyway, Psalm seventy seven.
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I'm gonna get up and get going
here, and brother Allison will be
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along in a few minutes, and
you're gonna love what he does as well,
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Psalm seventy seven. And I'm gonna
read a good little bit of this
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here because I want you to get
the picture. Top of the chapter,
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Verse one, I cried unto God
with my voice, even into God with
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my voice, and He gave ear
unto me. In the day of my
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trouble, I sought the Lord.
My sore ran in the night and ceased.
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Not my soul refused to be comforted. I remembered God and was troubled.
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I complained, and my spirit was
overwhelmed. Now that's an interesting phrase
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right there. Now he does mention
this. I just jumped out at me
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today because when I was listening to
it, I was in the car.
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And that's always the difficulty when you're
in a car. You can't sometimes be
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looking at the text. But right
there that Psalm seventy seven, verse three,
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I remembered God and was troubled.
I remembered God and was troubled.
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When does your remembrance of God?
When does your memory of God make you
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troubled? What does it mean by
troubled? Is there a different translation?
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So Psalm seventy seven to three.
Like if I was listening to this sermon
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and I was there, I was
in the church, I was like this
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preaching conference, I would immediately wrote
Psalm seventy seven three, and I would
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have put a question mark, and
I would have written something really fast like
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look up later, research later,
study later, what is going on here?
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How why is he trouble? I
would have just I would have put
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a quick note, I wanna started
looking any cross references up or looking anything
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else up because I want to get
back to listening. But I wanted I
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would want to put something down on
paper as fast as I could so that
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I could remember that is fascinating to
me. Like I remembered God and I
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was troubled. Not I remembered God
and I found peace. I remember God
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and I was comforted. I remembered
God and I was happy. Now I
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remembered God and I was troubled.
Like, now is that? Is there
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something with the Hebrew there? Now
I'm looking at the new King James.
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He's reading the King James. So
those are the thing my other Well,
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we could look it up, but
then we're gonna get we're gonna get off
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site. That we're gonna get off
track, right or I'm gonna get off
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track. You're just following wherever I
go, So I guess you wouldn't technically
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be off track. Well, you
would be following me off into the wilderness
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somewhere who knows, and we'd fall
off the edge of a cliff. We
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got to stay focused because we got
to get to that point in the sermon
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where I was like, I'm driving
the car and I'm like pause, pause,
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stop it, stop it right here, stop it right here, right
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Well, it'll be interesting if you
know when when I paused it it we
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could put money down. Can you
predict when I was listening to this sermon
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exactly when I hit pause, because
I was like, wait, what did
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he just say? And then you
got that sala word, which basically said
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says, consider this, or think
of that, Thou holdest mine eyes waking.
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I am so troubled that I cannot
speak. I've considered the days of
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old, the years of ancient times. I called a remembrance my song in
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the night. I commune with mine
own heart and my spirit made diligent search.
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Will the Lord cast off? Forever? Will he be favorable? No
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more? Is his mercy clean gone
forever? Doth his promise fail? Forevermore?
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Hath God forgotten to be gracious?
Hath he in anger shut up his
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tender mercies? All nine of these
verses are really kind of a litany of
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complaints, statements of doubt, hesitation. I mean, things are going haywire.
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You know what's going on here?
Basically, it's what he's what he's
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asking. Verse ten and I said, this is my infirmity, but I
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will remember the years of the right
hand of the Most High. I will
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remember the works of the Lord.
Surely I will remember thy work, thy
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wonders of old. I will meditate
also of all thy work, and talk
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of thy doings. Thy way,
old God is in the sanctuary. Who
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is so great a god as our
God. Thou art the God that doest
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wonders. Thou hast declared thy strength
among the people. Thou hast with thine
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arm redeemed thy people. The sons
of Jacob and Joseph Saylah the word.
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The waters saw thee old God.
The waters saw thee They were afraid.
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The depths also were troubled. The
clouds poured out our water. The skies
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sent out a sound thine eras also
went abroad. The voice of Thy thunder
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was in the heaven. The lightnings
lightened the world. The earth trembled and
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shook. Thy way is in the
sea, and thy path in the great
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waters, and thy footsteps are not
known. Now, let us thy people
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like a flock by the hand of
Moses and Aaron. Now five times in
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that chapter a little preposition in I
in is just kind of tucked in there
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and not without significance. And let
me illustrate it like this. Okay,
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so five times we have the word
in n I in. Let's see if
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we can find them, all right, I cry, Now, hang on,
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he's using the King James. Right, I'm using the new King James.
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Let me grab a King James.
Here we go. I got one
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right here, all right. Let
me let me open up the Psalm seventy
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seven. Let's see if we can
find them. All right. He says
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that this is not without significance,
that this is a significant, a significant
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thing, that this is used five
times. In fact, he's going to
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build his whole SERMONI it's called God
is in I in right, So he's
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building his whole sermon on the five
times that this is used. All right.
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So this, this is fascinating to
me. Now, when I was
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driving the car, I didn't have
a chance to look right there when it
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was reading it. I was trying
to look because I knew this part,
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because I heard this part. So
but this is not where I stopped it.
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This is not where I stopped it. I just when I was driving
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the car, I'm like, oh, I'm gonna have to go home and
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look those up. So now let's
look them up. Are you ready?
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Here we go. So I cried
under God with my voice, even under
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God with my voice, and he
gave ear and to me. All right,
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So we don't have any in verse
one, verse two. In the
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day of my trouble, I sought
the Lord, So there's use of inn,
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but it's not talking about God.
Is in just as in the day
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of my trouble. But all right, So there's in. I sought the
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Lord. My sore ran in the
night, whether it's in the night.
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So in the day and in the
night, there's twice. So in the
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day of my trouble, I sought
the Lord. My sore ran in the
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night, and cease not my soul
refused to be comforted. So it's used
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twice in verse two. One in
the day of my trouble and in the
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night. Number So let's go to
verse three. I remembered God and was
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troubled. I complained at my spirit, and my spirit was overwhelmed. Thou
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holdest mine eyes walking waking. I'm
sorry, I am so troubled that I
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cannot speak I have So we don't
have it. So hang on, we
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don't have it. In verse one, we don't have it. In verse
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three, we don't have it.
In verse four, I have considered the
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days of all the years of age, we don't have it. In verse
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five reade correctly, I've considered the
days of old, the years of ancient
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times. I called or rememberan to
my song in the night. All right.
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So there's the third use of inn
in the day, in the night,
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and then in the night is repeated
again. Uh in verse six,
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So there's three times I commune with
my own heart and my spirit made diligent
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search. Will the Lord cast off
forever? And will he be favorable?
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No more? Is his mercy clean
gone forever? Doth his promise fell forever?
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More? A right? So we
don't we don't have it in those
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verses verse nine, hath God for
hath God forgotten to be gracious? Hath
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he? And anger shut up tender
mercies. There's the fourth one, all
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right, So let's go through these
verse two, in the day of my
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trouble in the night, then we
have the next one is in verse six,
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in the night. So we have
in the day of trouble in the
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night, in the night, and
now we have in anger hath he in
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anger? All right, So let's
go through them again. Verse Let's see,
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let's count these, or let's put
these down in the day of my
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trouble. There's number one in the
night, number two, and the number
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three is in the night, and
verse six, and then in anger is
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number four. So we just need
one more. We need one more.
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And I said, this is my
infirmity, this is verse ten. But
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I will remember the years of the
right hand of the Most High. I
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will remember the works of the Lord. Surely, I will remember thy wonders
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of old. I will meditate also
of thy work and talk of thy doings.
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Thy way, Oh, God is
in the sanctuary. There's number five,
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all right, And I don't see
anymore. Oh wait, verse nineteen.
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In the sea, there's in the
sea, in great waters, so
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I know I see more, all
right, So that's that would be seven.
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So I see seven times, not
five times, but none of them.
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Our way is in the sea.
Okay, God's way is in the
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sea, and thy paths in the
great waters. I guess that could refer
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to Inn. But the whole sermon
is called God is in. God is.
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He's gonna build his entire illustration on
this concept that God is in and
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he's barred. It seems to be
taking that. He says five times,
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and saw him seventy seven inn is
used. All right, let's let him
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build that out. I'm I'm a
little perplexed now now I'm a little confused.
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I'm a little confused here. I'm
a little confused here, but you
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can and if I missed one,
I apologize, but I don't want to
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go too long on that. Let's
let him build this out. He's going
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to start by trying to explain the
significance of in by giving us an illustration.
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And well, you can tell me
if this illustration seems to fit the
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way the word end is used.
And so I'm seventy seven. I'm a
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little confused, but let's see if
we can find it. A number of
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years ago, while I was a
pastor in Maryland, we had a young
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doctor, a medical doctor, showed
up on Sunday and his family and getting
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acquainted with him and the lobby.
On the way out, I said to
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him, if it'd be acceptable to
them, I'd like to stop by and
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see them sometime. He said,
come buy my office. And I said,
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well, you're a busy physician,
I said, is that good?
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He said, I will make time. He said you tell them when you
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come in, and he said,
I'll post my office. They'll be expecting
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you. So I on a day
that week, I think might have been
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a Tuesday or something. I went
by and I had three questions that I
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raised. When I walked in,
I said to the receptionist, I said,
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is the doctor in? Then I
said she said yes, and I
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said, well is he available?
Yes? And then I said, well
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may I see him? So you
can see how he's building the illustration.
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Is the doctor in? Is he
available? And can I see him?
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Keep those three down right? But
is the doctor in? Is he available?
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And can I see him? What
he's going to do? He's gonna
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now flip that over to God?
Is God in? Is he available?
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And can I see him? All
right? So, but the doctor is
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in? God is in? The
doctor is in? God is in.
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You can see where this is going
to go. I mean, I'm kind
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of jumping the gun a little bit, But now does that fit Psalm seventy
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seven with the word in his Psalm
seventy seven? Is God is in?
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God is available and you can see
him? Now? I think this is
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a clever I think this is a
clever opening illustration and there's a part of
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me that really likes it. I
just don't know if I can it's got
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in? Is he available? And
can I see him? Do I derive
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that from Psalm seventy seven? Maybe
you can't. I'm gonna now this,
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this is not where I pause the
sermon, right, So this this is
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just me now listening to it again, going hmm, there's okay, just
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trying to get as much from this
as possible. All right. This is
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you know, whenever you listen to
a sermon, you want to get as
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much from it as possible. Even
if you disagree with every bit of it,
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you still want to get as much
from it as possible. So all
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right that like I almost want to
like if I was in a hermonuticts class,
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I would tell, all right,
class, here's what we're gonna do.
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All right. And so I'm seventy
seven. We have the word in
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ie in it's used. I think
we found seven. I think maybe seven
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times seven or eight times? All
right, And what I'm what I want
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you to do is I'm gonna give
you an opening sermon illustration. This guy
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worked, this doctor visited at church. The pastor is like, hey,
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can I stop by and see you
like, come by my office. So
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when when the doctor, when the
pastor this doctor visited the church, the
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pastor is like, hey, can
I visit you? The doctor said,
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come by my office. So when
the pastor arrived at the doctor's office,
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he said, is the doctor in? Is he available? And can I
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see him? In this sermon,
the pastor uses this as an illustration of
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God that God is in, He's
available and we can see him. Can
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you derive that from the text of
Psalm seventy seven? And I would just
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then give that to the class and
then leave and say, okay, guys,
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I'm back. Now after about an
hour two hours, what did you
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find? What did you find?
Let's see what he does with this.
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But this is clearly the direction he's
going. I know, I'm kind of
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jumping the gun a little bit there, but here we go. Yes,
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now, all of that was contingent
upon the fact that the doctor was in.
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Had he not been there, I
mean I could have chatted all day
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long, I could have waited all
day long, and yet there would have
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been no exchange of conversation. Nothing
would have been accomplished. Now, for
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whether it be me, the doctor
or one of you we can't be everywhere,
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we can't do it all because we've
got limits. But when I ask
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those same questions in reference to God, it's a different matter. When I
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asked the question is God in?
Yes, he's in, night or day
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He's in, I asked the second
question is he available? Oh? Yes,
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He's always available, And then the
question is may I see him?
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Will he talk to me? Do
I have access to him? That's a
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pretty interesting opening illustration. I could
probably do with something with that. Is
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God in? Is God in?
God is in? Is he in?
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God is in? Yes? Is
he available? And do I have access
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to him? Can I see him? All? Right? Now, I
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think it's more about you know,
obviously we cannot see him, but do
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I have access to him? Okay? All right? Well, I could
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probably look some scriptures it's God in
or I could probably find some scriptures saying
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God is in, He is,
He is, forever, he was,
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is and will forever be. I
could probably find some scriptures about the existence
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of God. God is in?
Is God in? Yes? God is
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in? Is he available? Right? Okay? Well? Is he available?
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I could probably find some scriptures.
Do I have access to him?
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Will I have access to him?
Through Jesus Christ. I probably could use
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those three points. And now I
could come back to maybe a Bible study
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class as ic class. Here's these
three concepts. Find scriptures that support each
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one. So if you want a
little Bible study exercise, go find the
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scriptures that would say God is in
that would somehow support that concept. Is
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he available? Is God available?
And can we see him? Or do
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we have access to him? Find
those scriptures. So maybe we could do
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something with that. But now we're
getting really close to the point where so
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at this point I'm just listening.
I'm driving. Yeah, I'm listening.
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Okay, And now this is where
I almost wreck the car. It's coming
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up really soon. Here we go, and not only are all the questions
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answerable with yes, but the interesting
thing is he's really been expecting us.
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I mean, after all, in
these days where you and I live,
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with all of the violence and all
of the societal upheaval and expressions of hatred
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and cheating and all kinds of things
to discourage us and alarming things going on,
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I mean, the question has to
be raised. I mean, can
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we can we in these days?
Can we be Christians like Christians ought to
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be? Can we have revival in
these times. I mean, what about
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soul winning? What about all these
things that are laid out in the Bible
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for us? Is all of that
doable in twenty twenty four in the United
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States of America? Is it possible? Now I've read this chapter and I
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discover some things. Number One,
I discover that God was in history.
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That God was in history. All
right, that I can see that,
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like if you're using Psalm seventy seven
to say God was in history. I
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started really focusing on the word in
that whenever I open the Old Testament,
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God is in history. That okay, wait, we can verify that in
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the beginning God. God was in
the beginning. God was in the garden.
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God was in the situation with God
was here, and God was here.
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God shows up over and over and
over God is it? Okay?
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All right, I can do something
with that. All right. So far,
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that's actually a great point. God
is in history. Okay, all
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right? He said that's number one. All right. Now I'm gonna,
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i know, trying to stop this
and cutting him off, but I'm just
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trying to work our way through this. So just listen carefully because he's going
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to say the next thing really quick. You look back, look to the
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days of the past, and God
was there. Now, God does not
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control everything. That's where I almost
wrecked the car. God does not control
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everything. There are things God doesn't
control. Now I'm I am saying that
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he had Clearly he's just he just
misspoke it. Clearly, he just I
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mean, there's no way he believes
God isn't in control of everything. Now,
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maybe he does, but I'm gonna
at least give him the benefit of
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the doubt because typically, as Christians, we believe God is sovereign, he
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is in control of all things.
Now now I know for some we don't
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like that because if God is in
control of all things, that raises some
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serious questions about the bad things that
happen. So maybe if you say God
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is not in control of all things, then you get God off the hook.
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Hey, hey, this happens,
Well, God is not in control
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of that. God is not in
control of that. But if God is
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not in control of it, then
is God God? Can you be God
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and not in control? If those
things that God does not control, are
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they then not a God in and
of themselves? And why doesn't God control
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them? Because he just chooses not
to control, well, how many things
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has God chosen not to control?
Now, for you, let's just throw
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this out as a philological question.
Does it make it easier for you to
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believe God is in control of all
things? Or does that lead you to
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some major philosophical problems that you just
cannot handle? Or does it make you
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feel better that God is it in
control of all things? Or does that
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lead you to philosophical problems that you
can't handle. Do you believe God is
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in control of all things? And
if so, how do you handle the
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philosophical problems that's going to or arise
from that position? Or do you believe
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God is not in control of all
things? And how do you handle the
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philosophical problems that arise from that position? What position are you in? Are
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you on the side of God is
in control of all things and this is
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how I handle the philosophical problems?
Or are you on team God is not
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in control of all things and this
is how you handle those problems? Which
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one are you on? Now?
I'm gonna go with the idea that I
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just don't think there's no way.
There's no way he means that right,
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God is not in control of all
things? Just if God can't control,
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if God is not in control of
all things, what would be the point
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of even praying? Like I would
need a list of all the things God
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doesn't control, and then there's no
point in praying. Right, If God
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doesn't have control, can he do
anything about it? And he said,
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well, he could do something about
it, but he just chooses not to
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do something about it. Well,
if God chosen not to do certain things
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in these areas he's not controlling,
then there's no point in praying about that,
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which would make it a lot easier
to limit what you're praying about.
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Hey, guys, no, no, no, no, no, I
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know it's Wednesday night prayer meeting.
Don't pray about those things. God is
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not in control of those things,
nor is he going to exercise control over
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those things until a specific time.
Well, then there's no point in praying
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about it, right, I mean, if you think about it, if
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you believe that man's will is the
ultimate determinate, the ultimate thing that determines
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whether someone is going to be saved
or not. It is the individual's will,
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and God does not control that will, and he allows that will to
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be truly free, then there's no
point in praying for someone's salvation, because
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if God is gonna get involved in
trying to get someone saved, then he's
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he's he's placing influence upon their will. That's not a free will. You
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got to if that will is free, you got to let them choose,
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right, you can't have God getting
involved in it, right, He's got
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to respect that free will. So
is God in control or not in control?
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That cut me off guard. That's
where I had paused. I have
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not heard a second after that.
I immediately just stopped the car. I
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didn't stop the car. I pause
and just kept driving and just kept driving.
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Finally got on the right highway,
drove got home. I'm like,
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okay, and then I had a
million things to do and then it's be
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Yeah, it's been crazy all day. So I have not had a chance
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to listen to the rest, and
I work forty five minutes. I think
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we should just stop and you go
figure it out. No, No,
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I've got to hear a little bit
more to at least determine is he Is
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he going to clarify this in any
way, shape or form. I think
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we're going to know in the next
few minutes. Right, So all right,
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So there we go. God is
in history. God does not control
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all things, and he does not
cause everything that goes on he does.
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God does not control all things,
and he does not cause all things to
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occur. So he's literal sod.
This seems to me that he's doubling down,
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he's not correcting it. Hey,
God does not control all things and
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he does not cause all things.
Now this would go greatly against say,
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the London Baptist Confession of Faith.
If you read the chapters on God's eternal
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decrees, God's providence. I think
you can look up those chapters in the
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London Baptist Confession of Faith sixteen eighty
nine. The same you should be able
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to find the same chapters in the
Westminster Confession of You can look at them.
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Now you may be on the team
that God does not control and God
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does not cause all things. God
does not control, God does not cause.
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So you're removing God greatly from what's
happening. Now that may work for
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you philosophically, I can understand.
Look, there's a part of me that
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can understand this. Look you look
around at the world. Obviously it makes
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it. It may make it a
little easier from a thiological perspective, we
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go, well, obviously God is
not controlling all things. The world seems
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out of control. This has happened, this has happened, or this happened
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to me. That God obviously is
not in control. And clearly God did
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not cause these horrible things to happen. So I'm going to remove God from
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it. But if you remove God
from it, where are you left.
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What are the implications of saying God
is not in control and God does not
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cause all things? What are the
implications? Because if God doesn't cause all
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things, he still has to be
somehow involved. Unless you're now going to
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say God does not know all things. But in the beginning God, if
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he knows all things, well,
then in a roundabout way, he knows
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exactly what's going to happen. So
he's in control because if he allows it
679
00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:14.760
to happen, he's in control all
right. Now, See, if you
680
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:17.320
say he's not in control, then
it's not that he just doesn't allow it,
681
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:22.360
allows it. He doesn't have any
control. That would be really confusing.
682
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.840
And he doesn't cause all things.
But if he knew before he created
683
00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:30.000
what was going to happen, he
created the very things that's going to cause
684
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:32.159
it to happen. Then in some
ways you still have to bring it back
685
00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:38.400
to God. Right, let's see
where this goes. But he has,
686
00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:45.280
with premeditation and purpose, said an
ultimate course for this world. That and
687
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:49.480
it's going to come out the way
he said it's going to come out.
688
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:54.400
Okay, wait a minute, everything
is going to turn out the way he
689
00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:58.360
wants it to turn out. But
he doesn't control all things, and he
690
00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:04.599
doesn't cause all things. With pre
meditation, he said, everything on course,
691
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:07.000
and it's gonna turn out the way
he wants it to turn out.
692
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:10.559
Yet he doesn't control all things,
and he doesn't cause all things. Well,
693
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:14.039
if he doesn't cause all things,
how is it going to turn out
694
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:16.480
the way he wants it to turn
out unless he's controlling and causing. How
695
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:20.360
can you say, on one hand, God does not control and God does
696
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:23.760
not cause, but he premeditated set
everything on course to turn out just the
697
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:27.079
way he wants it to turn out. How can it turn out the way
698
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:30.639
he wants to turn out unless he's
controlling and causing. That's the most I
699
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:36.719
am so baffled by this. I
am I am okay, No, I'm
700
00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:38.679
glad I stopped the car I'm glad
to stop the car because I probably would
701
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:40.320
have wrecked it at that point.
I don't. I don't. I don't
702
00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:44.679
even know, because now I'm just
now I don't get it. So God
703
00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:47.280
doesn't cause. God doesn't control,
God doesn't cause all things. But yet
704
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:52.920
he with pre meditation, set everything
on course to end up exactly the way
705
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:57.880
he ended he wants it to end
up. Is it going to end up
706
00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:01.440
just by chance? By luck?
Just oh, look at that. It
707
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:04.960
just worked out the way I wanted
to. I didn't. I didn't control
708
00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:07.400
it, and I didn't cause it. The how does it end up the
709
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:15.119
way God wants it? If he's
not controlling and he's not causing. The
710
00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:17.079
King's hand is in the heart of
the is in the hand of the Lord.
711
00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:22.119
And you'd have to just study the
nation of Israel a little bit to
712
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:27.360
see that God has purpose there and
he has effected that every step of the
713
00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:34.159
way. Wait, God has the
king's heart in his hand. Just consider
714
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:37.800
the nation of visual He affected it. We wait a minute, So does
715
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:43.000
he does he? Does he control? And does he cause? That sounds
716
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:46.760
like causation? That that sounds like
he's causing something. Right, That sounds
717
00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:51.639
like he's controlling something. So I
don't get it. How can God not
718
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:55.639
be controlling everything and not causing everything? Yet you're the immediately go into he
719
00:50:55.760 --> 00:51:06.800
has the king's heart in his hand, and he's influencing what happened. And
720
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:10.920
if you and I here in the
United States, if we look around,
721
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:17.400
we have to acknowledge we have been
blessed of God. Beyond calculation, we
722
00:51:17.559 --> 00:51:24.440
have been blessed. Now I look
into the pages of history and I see
723
00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:31.639
very clearly God was in for Moses, he was in for Joshua. He
724
00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:40.000
was God controlling and causing in the
life of Moses and Joshua, or those
725
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:45.159
were the areas where He was controlling
and was causing. But there's other areas
726
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:50.480
he doesn't control or cause. Can
we only say God caused and controlled what
727
00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:52.519
we read in scripture and everything else, we have no idea of God's causing
728
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:58.360
it. If God is in control, and if we don't know if God
729
00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:01.320
is causing or in control, then
there's really no point in praying. Hey,
730
00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:04.760
God, I'm praying about this.
I have no idea If you're in
731
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:07.360
control of this, and I don't
even know if you're causing it or not
732
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:09.400
causing it. I don't know.
I guess I could still pray about it.
733
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:16.920
I guess he was in for Elijah, he was in for John the
734
00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:22.199
Baptist, he was in for Isaiah, he was in for Paul. We
735
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:25.239
get a little closer to home,
he was in for Moody, he was
736
00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:30.159
in for John Rice. And he's
in for us. He's here, and
737
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:36.360
yes, we can see him very
clearly in history. Now you look at
738
00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:42.239
verses twelve and thirteen, and that
tells me that God is in today as
739
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:45.280
well. He said, I will
meditate of all thy work and talk of
740
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:52.639
thy doings. Sounds to me like
present tense stuff. God is in today
741
00:52:53.679 --> 00:53:05.199
that had been present tense stuff for
the Psalmist. I will meditate also of
742
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:08.719
all thy work and talk of thy
doings. That sounds present tense to the
743
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:14.079
one writing the psalm. I don't
know how yet. Okay, all right,
744
00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:16.800
okay, But I'm still trying to
figure out. God is not in
745
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:22.119
controlling, doesn't cause all things.
Yet God premeditated everything to come out a
746
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:23.320
certain way, and it's going to
work out that way. And God was
747
00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:27.400
in with this person, this person, this person, this person. But
748
00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:35.079
was he controlling and causing or was
he just passively watching. Hey, this
749
00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:38.960
is the day the Lord has made. Bible tells us today. If you
750
00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:43.920
will hear his voice, harden not
your hearts. Now is the accepted time.
751
00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:49.800
Behold, now is the day of
salvation. Folks, Revivals lack revivals
752
00:53:49.800 --> 00:53:53.480
ought to be, are not relics
of the past. They're not today.
753
00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:58.960
The power of God's available today.
Victory can be had. I mean we
754
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:04.440
don't. We don't have to live
in the throes of defeat. We don't
755
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:07.880
have to, you know, have
our chin hang into our shoelaces every hour
756
00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:15.280
of the day or night. Do
we have victory because of us and we
757
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:19.159
pull it off? Or do we
have victory of God? And if God
758
00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:22.039
is one causing the victory, is
he causing it? Is he controlling it?
759
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:30.119
But God is not in control and
God doesn't cause all things to happen.
760
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:35.239
Is that just our our like,
Hey, something bad happened. God
761
00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:40.000
was not in control and God did
not cause it. But God can intervene.
762
00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:49.199
I don't all right, God is
in heaven. God is still in
763
00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:52.000
today and available to us when we
need him, when we want him,
764
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:57.519
whenever we need to have his presence
with us. Not only that, but
765
00:54:57.639 --> 00:55:02.039
verse fourteen tells me that God is
in very powerful way, says thou art
766
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:08.039
the God that do us wonders.
And that word wonders is it's like miracles.
767
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:15.159
It's like God demonstrating himself in a
powerful kind of a way, in
768
00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:19.960
a supernatural kind of a way.
You know, we get all enamored with
769
00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:25.480
atomic power and some of the things
that go on with that stuff. Every
770
00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:30.599
time I get on a get on
an airplane. I mean, you know,
771
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:34.960
I have flown and flown and flown
and flown over the years, many
772
00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:38.119
many, many hundreds and hundreds of
flights, and I'm telling you every time,
773
00:55:38.159 --> 00:55:42.280
I can't help it. Every time
I get on an airplane, whether
774
00:55:42.320 --> 00:55:45.039
it's a seven thirty seven, which
what I found most of the time,
775
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:49.119
or something else, and they put
one hundred and seventy five people in that
776
00:55:49.199 --> 00:55:53.280
thing or more and bigger planes,
and all of them with luggage, oh
777
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:59.320
my mind, luggage baggage. I
mean, people are dragging so much stuff
778
00:55:59.360 --> 00:56:00.280
onto the plane. I mean,
we got to have one of this and
779
00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:05.480
two of that and gotta take it
with us. And I'm the same way,
780
00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:09.880
you got all of that weight,
they pull that thing back, and
781
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:13.760
I mean any number of times I've
said, is this thing gonna fly?
782
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:17.960
You know? But I studied just
a little bit and I figured out,
783
00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:21.960
I mean, you you put the
throttle to that thing, it doesn't have
784
00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:28.280
any choice. It's got to fly. And just the theory of the philosophy
785
00:56:28.280 --> 00:56:31.679
of aerodynamics, it's it's got to
fly. But sometimes when that thing's heavily
786
00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:36.159
loaded and it's it's picking up speed
and it's up to one hundred miles an
787
00:56:36.199 --> 00:56:37.960
hour and one hundred and eighty miles
an hour and whatever to take off,
788
00:56:38.239 --> 00:56:43.000
and all of once that thing starts
going and lumbering up you know all my
789
00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:45.159
I mean I mean that that.
I mean, we're enamored with that.
790
00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:51.559
I just can't imagine that we could
get that heavy thing up there. And
791
00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:58.400
I'm even more amazed they can get
on the ground safely. But I'm telling
792
00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:01.280
you that, like a lot of
the things, is a gift of God.
793
00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:07.519
It's a gift from God to us. So it's a gift of God.
794
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:14.159
So God is not in control.
God does not cause all things,
795
00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:19.199
but he gives gifts to bring about
all things. But then wouldn't he not
796
00:57:19.320 --> 00:57:27.360
be the ultimate cause of those things? Like if God is giving gifts to
797
00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:30.920
men so that we can develop flight. Then God would be the ultimate cause
798
00:57:31.360 --> 00:57:36.360
for flight, because He's the one
who gave the gift for man to be
799
00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:39.599
able to develop that. So is
that not God causing it? I am
800
00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:45.920
so confused, Like when you tell
everyone God does not control all things and
801
00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:50.519
God does not cause all things.
I would feel that the rest of the
802
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:55.440
sermon would need to be all about
what God does not cause and what God
803
00:57:55.559 --> 00:58:00.639
does not control, and then what
God God does cause, and what God
804
00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:08.320
does control and all of it.
I mean it lays the power of God
805
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:14.039
into our lap. I mean this
whole world and the way it functions.
806
00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:20.559
I mean absolutely testimony to the Almighty
God is in. He's in today,
807
00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:25.079
and he's in in a powerful way. So wait, everything about the planet
808
00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:30.159
and all thing around us, that's
God. So God is causing it or
809
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:35.719
controlling it? Does God control everything
to keep the planet operating? I don't
810
00:58:35.800 --> 00:58:39.000
understand what does God not cause or
control? Then, like on one end,
811
00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:42.719
God does not control everything, caused
all things, but it sounds like
812
00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:49.480
everything else is God, God,
God, God. God. At thirteenth
813
00:58:49.559 --> 00:58:54.599
verse says that he's in the sanctuary. Well in the Old Testament, he
814
00:58:54.719 --> 00:59:00.679
was in in a place New Testament
era. He's in the believer, He's
815
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:07.440
in us. We're never alone,
folks. I mean, the heat may
816
00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:12.480
be on, but we're never alone. We may have critics, but we're
817
00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:15.079
never alone. We may not be
able to pay a rent, but the
818
00:59:15.239 --> 00:59:20.480
but we're never alone. We may
not be feeling well, but we're not
819
00:59:20.559 --> 00:59:23.559
alone. If we are born again, the spirit of the God comes to
820
00:59:23.719 --> 00:59:29.519
dwell in us, live within us. God is in. He's right there,
821
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:34.119
dark of the night, light of
the day. He's in when he's
822
00:59:34.679 --> 00:59:38.840
on the sanctuary. We are the
sanctuary. We're occupied, We're inhabited.
823
00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:45.760
You know, I think about some
of the some of the times, you
824
00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:53.519
know, quite a number of years
ago now, when Bett and I walked
825
00:59:53.519 --> 01:00:00.000
out of the denominational group that we
were attached to to become independent Baptists.
826
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:06.320
We walked out on the street with
nobody in this crowd at that point who
827
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:08.760
knew us. And the people in
the other crowd were kicking us as we
828
01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:14.280
went. And I walked out with
a house payment and car payments and two
829
01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:17.599
kids and the dog defeed. And
you say, what's the deal? God
830
01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:22.599
was in. God was in,
He saw us through he got us through
831
01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:29.559
God. So God doesn't control all
things. God doesn't cause all things,
832
01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:39.360
but he jumped in and helped cause
and control let us out, and God
833
01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:44.119
us in where we needed to be. God has helped us all along the
834
01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:49.360
way. I think about so many
many times when God has just let himself
835
01:00:49.440 --> 01:00:52.440
be known. It's like, hey, you're not alone, buddy, just
836
01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:57.559
hanging there. Sometimes, you know, things maybe get a little cross ways
837
01:00:57.599 --> 01:01:01.679
and you start looking at something before
you open your mouth and say something you
838
01:01:01.679 --> 01:01:07.679
ought not to say, or something
pops within your viewfinder, and it's like,
839
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:10.440
you know, rather than then looking
at things you ought not to look
840
01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:15.280
at, you remind that somebody living
inside of you. You're not alone.
841
01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:20.360
God is there, and it reminds
you. It strengthens you. It enabled
842
01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:23.519
you to make the turns that you
need to make and look away or not
843
01:01:23.559 --> 01:01:28.840
pay attention to whatever is happening.
Not only that, but verse fifteen tells
844
01:01:28.880 --> 01:01:34.760
me that God is in and mighty
to save that. Fifteenth verse says thou
845
01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:38.960
hast with thine arm redeemed. Thy
people, listen, I'm telling you,
846
01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:42.519
you know, we guys, we
guys win. You know, we like
847
01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:47.679
to flex our muscle a little bit. You know, my grandchildren come around
848
01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:50.760
and grab me by the arm,
and I look at them, I say,
849
01:01:50.800 --> 01:01:52.119
hey, don't hurt yourself. Don't
hurt yourself when they grab hold of
850
01:01:52.159 --> 01:01:57.239
that. You know, it's got
to be that kind of a story and
851
01:01:57.239 --> 01:02:00.400
a joke. You know now that
if I walk up and have one of
852
01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:04.840
them by their arm, they'll say
that to me. Smart kids. But
853
01:02:04.880 --> 01:02:08.440
anyway, you know, I mean, we talk about our little dab of
854
01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:15.559
strength, and it's nothing compared to
what God does when he finds a sinner.
855
01:02:15.079 --> 01:02:19.519
And I mean it doesn't have to
be somebody who's down in the dregs
856
01:02:19.559 --> 01:02:23.239
of life. It can be some
little boy just nine or ten years of
857
01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:28.239
age, and as we would say, I mean still in the in the
858
01:02:29.239 --> 01:02:37.480
emergence from innocence, but nonetheless a
sinner. None the less, we children
859
01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:40.719
have a state of innocence, but
yet still a sinner. If you're a
860
01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:45.719
sinner, you can't be innocent.
This must be the age of accountability concept.
861
01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:50.599
I am. I'm not even as
baffled by that. I'm still confused
862
01:02:50.599 --> 01:02:53.760
by God does not control everything.
God does not cause all everything, but
863
01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:59.920
he's having God involved in everything.
So I don't understand and when God finds
864
01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:07.119
the sinner. Now is God the
one doing the saving or it would have
865
01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:12.599
to be us or unless because if
you say God controls and causes salvation,
866
01:03:13.239 --> 01:03:15.639
well, then now you're following.
Well, then they would have to go
867
01:03:15.719 --> 01:03:19.039
move towards a reformed understanding of salvation. You'd have to reform. You would
868
01:03:19.079 --> 01:03:22.280
have to move to a monogistic understanding
of salvation. And clearly, I know
869
01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:29.880
they believe in a synergistic type.
Clearly I know they do. As somebody
870
01:03:29.880 --> 01:03:31.639
that needs to be saved, well, a little boy or a little girl,
871
01:03:31.760 --> 01:03:35.760
or some grown man a woman,
whether it be somebody who's in a
872
01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:39.960
position of high power or somebody who's
walking the streets without a dime to their
873
01:03:40.039 --> 01:03:44.920
name. It does not matter.
God is able. God is mighty to
874
01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:51.159
save those who come to him.
God is able. But does God do
875
01:03:51.239 --> 01:03:54.480
it or does man do it?
Like God does not control all things,
876
01:03:54.519 --> 01:03:59.360
he doesn't cause all things. But
does he control and cause salvation? Or
877
01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:05.079
no? Jesus came to get center
saved. Our job is to get center
878
01:04:05.199 --> 01:04:10.360
saved. I mean we're commanded to
go after sinners. It's the heartbeat of
879
01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:14.280
God to get folks to the savior. All through the Bible, we see
880
01:04:14.280 --> 01:04:17.360
it God making the appeal to folks
to come to the Savior. I mean,
881
01:04:17.480 --> 01:04:23.119
what an unchanging mandate we have in
these days when so many churches are
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getting off the rails, so many
churches are heading off in some accommodation of
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the woke culture, some accommodation to
whatever the polls demand. Our mandate has
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not changed. I mean, we
still have that command to go after folks,
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reach folks. You say, what
folks, All folks, If they're
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breathing, we need to be after
them. Amen. God says he is
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in and his mighty arm is able
to redeem. Now I'm gonna stop right
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there because we're at sixty four minutes. Please look up the rest of that
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sermon. There's probably about ten minutes
of it left. Maybe God is in,
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doctor Shelton Smith. You can find
it on the sermon's two point zero
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app But I'm going to leave you
with kind of the question if you are
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you on the team that says,
are you on the philological side that says
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God is in control of all things
and God causes all things either directly or
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indirectly, utilizing secondary cause. Again, you can read the Westminster Confessional London
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Baptist Confession of Faith, and you
can see look at the chapters on God's
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decrees and God's providence. So are
you on the side that says God controls
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all things and causes all things?
Or are you on the side that says
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God does not control all things and
God does not cause all things. First
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determine which side you are on,
and then I want you to ask yourself
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what philosophical problems, theological problems do
you face on the basis of the side
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that you have chosen. Now,
look, side has its problems. If
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you say God controls all things and
causes all things, well you do you
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got to see some problems right now. I understand the Westminster in London Baptist
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and try to say, well,
God uses secondary causes, so God is
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not the direct cause. So like, well there's sin or death or this,
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Well God doesn't directly cause it,
but he uses satan or he does
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that. Okay, well then but
God is the one who created satan.
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So that to me is just kind
of like a semantics game we play.
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But the bottom line is, you
do realize it's going to lead you to
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some philosophical problems. If God controls
all things and causes all things. There's
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a lot of horrible things that happen
every single day in this world and has
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happened throughout the history of humankind.
Where was God? Why would God do
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this? That's a reasonable question and
challenge. If you say God does not
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control all things, he does not
cause all things, well, now you've
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got We'll wait a minute. If
God is not in control and God is
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not causing it, then these things
are operating independently of God. Then is
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God God? If there are things
running around independent of him, He's not
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sovereign, He's not I mean,
what what do you call something that's outside
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of the control of God? That
just seems to raise all kinds of pride?
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And then if God is not in
control of all things or cause all
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things, then what can Then God
is limited in what he can do because
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he doesn't control that, he's not
causing that. So then what how can
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When can God step in or not
step in? If those things are outside
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of his control, then God can
interject or he would be controlling that.
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That leaves all kinds of questions about
the even the existence of God. Is
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there more than one God? There's
all kinds of problems with that. So
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there you have it. God is
in doctor Shelton Smith. His hypothesis is
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God is not in charge of all
things or God. Yeah, God is
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not in charge of all things,
and God does not cause all things.
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God is not in control, I
should say, of all things, and
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he does not cause all things using
his words, that's his hypothesis. He
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does not articulate his hypotheses. He
doesn't explain it, he doesn't defend it,
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he doesn't justify it. In fact, the rest of the sermon seems
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to almost contradict what he said.
But that's irrelevant. It's not It's no
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longer about doctor Shelton Smith. It's
no longer about that preaching conference. I
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want you to go listen to that
preaching conference. I subscribe to doctor Shelton
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Smith's podcast. We would obviously have
a disagreement here, but it's not about
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him. It's not about him.
It's about this concept. Is God in
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control? And does God cause all
things? Is he control of all things?
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And does he cause all things?
Look, there's there's there. These
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sides cannot both be right. There
can only be one that's right. God
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is either in control and causes or
God is not in control and doesn't cause
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and then you have to deal with
the philosophy fallout of that. I would
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love to get your thoughts. You
can email me news if at yahoo dot
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com. That's the news I f
at yahoo dot com. Please look up
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that message. God is in.
But doctor Shelton Smith, please listen to
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the rest of it. If there's
something there that you're like, oh,
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you missed it. He completely explains
at the end, then let me know.
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Let me know asap, Let me
know asap. Okay, let me
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know. All right, Thanks for
listening everyone, Have a good night. God bless
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