July 11, 2024
Genesis 12:10-20
A sermon review of a sermon based on Genesis 12:10-20
A sermon review of a sermon based on Genesis 12:10-20
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Looking at our world from a theological
perspective. This is the Theology Central podcast
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making Theology Central. Good morning everyone. It is Thursday, July the eleventh,
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twenty twenty four. It is currently
nine forty three am Central Time,
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and I am coming to you live
from the Theology Central studio located right here
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in Abilene, Texas. I hope
you're having a wonderful day. I hope
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you're ready to put on those that
those well, if I'm speaking to multiple
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people, I hope all of you
are willing to put on your thinking cap.
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Is that better? I want everyone
to put on their thinking cap this
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morning, because we're going to be
digging in. We're going to be digging
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into a very well known passage of
scripture, and we are going to challenge
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the way it is typically presented and
preached. And whenever I do that,
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I find myself usually in the middle
of some form of controversy. It is
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amazing. I look, I don't
understand why that for passage after passage after
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passage of scripture, it's almost like
a template has been handed down, right,
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Someone's like handed down to template,
like this is how you preach this
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passage of scripture? And you can
go from sermon to sermon to sermon to
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sermon to sermon, like, well, they got the memo, they got
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the memo, they got the memo. They're using the template. And sometimes
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I like to come along and go
no, no, no, no,
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no, no no, let's challenge
this. Let's question this, because I
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don't think this template is actually handling
the text in an accurate way. In
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fact, I think it's presupposing and
placing things on the text and in the
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text that aren't actually there. And
we see this happen continually with Old Testament
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narratives. Right, people just read
into these narratives things that I'm like,
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where, why are we reading it
from this perspective? But to challenge it,
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well, people, you'll get some
pushback. People will get very irritated
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with you. It's almost like,
I don't know, they get very defensive.
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Maybe that's a better word. They
get defensive and they're like no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no no, this is
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the way it must be understood.
Like, well, I don't know,
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maybe maybe we can at least consider
that our approach to the text has been
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incorrect. Maybe possibly, so hopefully
you will at least allow me to present
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maybe a different way to look at
a very well known text of scripture,
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and hopefully we will all benefit from
it. Now, here's what we are
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doing. If for some reason you
have missed everything. I have in front
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of me. The May twenty second, twenty twenty four issue of the Sort
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of the Lord newspaper. Right,
May twenty second, twenty twenty four.
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I got a brand new issue of
the Lord newspaper in the middle yesterday.
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Okay, but this is the May
twenty second, And I was looking at
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the May twenty second, twenty twenty
four issue a couple of days ago,
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and I made it to page ten
of this issue of the Sword of the
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Lord newspaper. And there's a section
called the Preacher's Column. And I always
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like to look at the Preacher's column
because a lot of times it gives you
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maybe an outline or an illustration or
something that you could utilize or build maybe
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an entire message upon or a devotional
message. You could do something with it,
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maybe a Bible study. It gives
you kind of the maybe the basic
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concept, and then you could build
upon it. So I was looking the
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first one state, or the first
one is entitled are Christians Heartless? And
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I'm like, okay, maybe I
could do something with that. Maybe I
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don't know, we'll see. And
then I looked down and then the very
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next thing was leaning wrong. Leaning
wrong. Now, at first I thought
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it said learning wrong, and I'm
like, I thought it was going to
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be like something about how Christians look
the wrong way. And I'm like,
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ooh, that could be. That
would be right up my alley. I'd
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like to correct how Christians learn.
Okay, but it's leaning wrong, and
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I'm like, oh, okay,
that's interesting. And then right underneath that
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is Proverbs chapter three, verse five
that don't quote the entire verse. They
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quote this part lean not onto thine
own understanding, don't lean to your own
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understanding. And I'm like, oh, okay, this this could be interesting.
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It's in Proverbs. This was supposed
to be the Summer of Proverbs summer,
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the Proverbs summer of twenty twenty four
was going to be about Proverbs,
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and we did do a lot of
work in Proverbs. And then the next
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thing, you know, Summer twenty
twenty four is really turned into the summer
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of Psaw eighty three. So we
won't get into that entire story. That's
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been crazy, right, and we
have more developments about psaw Maty three,
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but we won't get into that right
now. So I was like, Okay,
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lean not onto thine own understand that's
that's a very well known verse.
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And then underneath that, they have
this, if we have any leaning toward
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anything, we are sure to fall
to the thing towards which we lean.
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If we have any leaning towards anything, we are sure to fall to the
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thing towards which we lean. Now
immediately I kind of challenge that, right
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because I'm like, well, I
don't. That's again placing the issue external
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outside of us. If I lean
towards that, then I'm going to fall.
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And my argument is, I'm leaning
towards certain things because of the fallen
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nature that is in me. My
fall in nature is what causes me to
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lean towards certain things. It's not
the thing that I'm leaning towards. It's
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not its fault. The fault is
inside of me. See, I lean
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in certain ways because I'm fallen inside. My leaning is evidence of my fallen
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nature, my sinful nature that is
inside of you. Whether you are a
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believer or an unbeliever, I know
Christians like to act like the fallen nature
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is gone and has been eradicated.
I don't know why that's I know Christians
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try to say that's not the case. Christians do this maddening things. I
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was listening listening to a sermon yesterday
that I wanted to just start screaming.
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It was based on the Book of
James and the pastor literally like within three
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minutes, basically said these like wildly
contradictory ideas. In Christ you are a
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new creature, the old is gone. Everything is new. You have been
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set free from bondage. You have
been set free. You are free,
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You're no longer in bondage to sin. And then literally like thirty seconds later.
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But as Christians, we continue to
fight the flesh and we continue to
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wait a minute, if I'm set
free and I'm a new creature and the
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old is gone, what am I
fighting? What am I still struggling with?
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If I've been said for it?
Like, it's weird how Christians state
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this and they don't hear themselves contradict
themselves. Well, in this particular case,
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I would argue, if we have
any leaning towards anything, we are
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leaning that way because of the fallenness
inside of us. That's the way I
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would state it, I am fallen
inside. I have a sinful nature,
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and that sinful nature wants things,
and it desires things, and it's full
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of lust and coveteousness and adultery and
pride and anger and bitterness and unforgiveness.
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That is what we are in our
nature. We can try to deny it,
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we can try to cover it up, we can try to pretend it's
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not there, and it manifests itself
when I start leaning this way or that
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way. So that was my first
kind of issue with it. Is I
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hate to say it. I'm not
saying that this is the author of this
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article would even claim this, but
it almost felt a little Pelagian to me,
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a little bit of Pelagianism, or
at least semi Pelagianism. And I
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reject Pelagianism outright, semi Pelagianism.
I reject outright, completely opposed to Pelagianism.
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I loathe it. I can't stand. I don't think it's an accurate
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understanding of human nature in any way, shape or form, and I think
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all Christians should reject it, all
right. So, and we've done plenty
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of study on discussions of Pelagianism.
I think I did what the eighteen points
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of Pelagianism. So we've covered that
in the past, all right, So
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then after the article does that,
it gives us seven, count them seven
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examples of people leaning in the wrong
direction. The first one is Abraham,
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all right, and it reads,
Abraham leaned towards Egypt in unbelief and soon
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found him self crippled by it.
Abraham leaned towards Egypt in unbelief and soon
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found himself crippled by it. And
we spent over an hour yesterday covering that
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one. So let me just remind
you it gives you seven. Those seven
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are Abraham and him leaning towards Egypt, found in Genesis twelve ten through twenty.
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Second, it mentions Lot, who
leaned towards sodom Genesis thirteen ten and
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Genesis nineteen seventeen. Number three David
leaning towards unholy desire and laziness. Second
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Samuel eleven two through four. Number
four is jehosephat leaned towards worldly association.
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First Kings twenty two twenty nine through
thirty two. Then number five, King
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Saul leaned towards his own inclination.
First Samuel fifteen ten through twenty three.
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Number six, Hezekiah leaned towards pride, Isaiah thirty nine, and number seven
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Peter leaned towards self sufficiency Luke twenty
two two verses thirty three and fifty five
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through fifty seven. Now, your
goal was what my not necessarily your goal,
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my assignment for you. My goal
for you was for you to write
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all of those scriptures down and read
them five times and then start finding random
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sermons on each one of those sections
of scripture. Right, That's what you
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were called to do. That's what
I challenged you to do. Now,
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yesterday we covered number one, and
I really really disagreed a lot with this
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assumption. The assumption is that when
we read the story in Genesis twelve ten
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through twenty that Abraham was doing something
wrong, he was demonstrating unbelief, he
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was doing something that was ungodly,
a lack of faith, and there's all
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kinds of criticism is heaped upon him. And I challenged that based off a
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number of things that based on where
this story occurs, what is not stated
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in the story. I think there's
just a lot of things pastors impose upon
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that text that's not based on anything
we have in scripture. There's nothing in
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scripture that condemns him going to Egypt. There there's no record of even God
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saying, hey, what you did
was wrong. There's no record, there's
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nothing. There was no scripture prohibiting
him from doing that. There was nothing.
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And yet the story is always handled
as a like, Abraham did something
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wrong. So I told so,
we covered that, I challenged it,
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spent over an hour. Well today
today is all about choosing a random sermon
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on that one number one Abraham leaned
towards Egypt and unbelieved, and I chose
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a random sermon, the very first
one I found. I think it's called
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Greater God, Genesis twelve ten through
twenty. It's the first. I just
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went to the sermons two point oh
app did a search for Genesis twelve ten,
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and this is the first thing that
showed up. That's simple. So
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I remember, this all goes to
our sermons two point oh app Sermon Challenge.
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So hopefully you're still participating in that. And so this fits perfectly because
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you're supposed to be choosing random sermons. I've given you. Now I want
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you to choose random sermons on these
sections of scripture. Make sure random.
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Don't look for your favorite broadcaster,
don't look for a particular kind of church.
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Just search for the scripture. And
what you get is what you get.
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And you don't throw a fit.
Well you can throw a fit,
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but yeah, you hear different perspectives, different broadcasters, and you never know
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what's going to happen. So I've
done just that. I've chosen a random
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one. The only thing I know
about the message we're about to hear is
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that the volume is insanely loud.
It's almost at times distorted, So I'm
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going to have to pull the volume
back on my end, So be patient.
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If it's a little too loud,
and then I go maybe a little
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too low, I'm going to be
messing with it, kind of trying to
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figure out exactly where to have it. So be patient. But here we
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go. Are you ready? Genesis
twelve ten through twenty. That's thirteen minutes
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of getting you all on the same
page, all right. I sometimes I
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don't like doing that much of a
review, But if I don't do that
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review, then kind of just jumping
in, you lose the context, and
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all of that context is essential.
So what I'm basically telling you and my
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introduction is we're going to be listening
to a sermon on Genesis twelve through twenty.
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My expectation is it's going to go
after Abram or his name wasn't Abraham
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at the time Abram. They're going
to go after him basically claiming that what
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he did demonstrated a lack of faith
or a lack of that of unbelief,
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et cetera, et cetera, et
cetera. And I've already challenged that presupposition.
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So there's a high probability that what
we're going to listen to they're going
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to go that direction, and I'm
going to be challenging it. That's what
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I that's my expectation. That is
what I'm predicting. If I'm wrong,
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great, but either way, this
is how you benefit from this. The
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goal here is not just to critical, like if I go if I disagree
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with everything they say, that has
nothing to do with me attacking them or
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thinking I'm smarter than them. It's
just I have a different perspective. So
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here's the Oh, A lot of
times people listen miss this right. They
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think it's just me trying to find
a sermon to be critical. No,
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that's why I don't listen to them
in advance, because then nobody can accuse
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me of just finding something I'm being
critical of. I'm just listening to a
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sermon following the very assignment I gave
you. I'm following. Now I may
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have a different perspective. That doesn't
mean I'm being mean or think that I'm
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better. I'm just gonna put forth
my perspective. You, the listener,
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you benefit by hearing two different perspectives
in one episode. So you walk away
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go, well, here was the
theology Central perspective, Here was the perspective
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of the sermon. Well, I
think that Theology Central podcast. I think
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they're idiots. That's the they don't
know what they're talking about. Wait,
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I disagree with that other pastor.
I think that they don't know what they're
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talking about. You get the opportunity. I think that that's great. That's
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awesome, and it also demonstrates,
sadly, it's very frustrating that no matter
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what text you look at, the
one thing you can always be certain of
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is that Christians will not agree on
how to interpret it. That's madening.
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All right, are you ready?
Here we go? No book's open,
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pencils in hand, have something to
drink, have a snack, get a
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bible, Tell your kids, hey, it's sermon review time, and then
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watch them go, ah, I'm
run out of the house, okay,
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which I don't know why they wouldn't
want to listen to a sermon review,
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but here we go. Henry Father, thank you for bringing us together again.
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Please clear a mind of the distractions
from the road, from what we
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have on our schedule, from life's
worries, riches and pleasures, from the
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trouble that is going on, from
the way our hearts may be troubled over
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things. Okay, now you know
you know my feelings about open prayer,
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about opening prayers in sermons and concluding
prayers in sermons. I've stated it before
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so many times. I get bothered
by opening prayers and closing prayers because I
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don't believe in most cases the pastor
is actually praying. It's almost like he's
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just getting a head start on his
sermon, or he's repeating what he's already
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preached. And when you're supposed to
be talking to God, you don't need
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to be preaching to him. But
in this particular case, he seems to
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actually be praying. You're not necessarily
trying to preach a sermon. At least
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I don't think he is at this
point. But what I'm always curious about
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in prayers, especially in churches before
sermons, either one that bothers me is
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the prayers where they basically say,
God, you know, show us,
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teach us, give us understanding.
Well, that drives me insane because if
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God is teaching, guiding and giving
us understanding, or as some preachers state
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and misc and I think misapply a
scripture, lead us into all truth,
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I don't think that has anything to
do with us. That was leading the
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original writers of the New Testament into
all truth, that that was a prayer
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for them, not for us.
Because if God is leading us into all
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truth, ladies and gentlemen, I
don't know, there wouldn't be thousands of
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denominations, and there wouldn't be one
hundreds of thousands of non millions of different
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interpretation of every single verse in the
entire Bible, no agreement on anything.
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Two thousand years later. We can't
agree on baptism, we can't agree on
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the Lord's Supper, we can't agree
on the structure of the church, I
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agree on anything. So clearly God
is not leading us into all truth.
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He's not teaching us, he's not
guiding us, or we would all arrive
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at the same location, at the
same destination. So either God can't lead,
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or we keep praying for something that
God is not going to do.
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Our job is to take the Bible
and figure it out. God is not
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the one guiding and leading because and
the minute you say God is the one
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guiding and leading your understanding of scripture, you're basically claiming your understanding comes directly
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from God, so you can never
be challenged on it. So that's that
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already creates almost a magisterial authority for
yourself. That's that's that's frightening, and
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that's basically a return to Catholicism.
So no, we have to study the
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Bible. So I have when I
hear these prayers. That kind of prayer
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always bothers me because I'm just like
no, or when pastors like somehow in
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their prayer or they tell the congregation, God gave me this sermon. Well,
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that's crazy because now I can't criticize
the sermon it came directly from Okay,
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that's problematic. Now in this one, he's asking God to remove all
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distractions Now, I would love to
believe that a pastor could pray for God
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to remove all distractions before a sermon, and every all distractions would be removed.
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But as someone who has stood behind
a pulpit for twenty three years,
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I mean twenty three years, week
after week after week, hours upon hours,
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yeah, I don't think I would
love divine intervention to stop all distractions.
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I just don't. I don't know. I don't know. You can
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ask yourself. So let's back that
up and we'll just let hear the whole
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prayer now, and I'll try not
to interrupt it. Here we go,
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he many, Father, thank you
for bringing us together again. Please clear
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a mind of the distractions from the
road, from what we have on our
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schedule, from life's worries, riches
and pleasures, from the trouble that is
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going on, from the way our
hearts may be troubled over things. Lord,
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Please take control of our minds and
our hearts and lead us now in
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and through your word for your glory. Help us to understand, as we
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look at Abraham and his story,
how you work, how you're in control,
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and how we can react differently than
what is natural, what is no
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it's hard for me not. It's
hard for me not to hear that he's
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starting to preach a sermon, he's
giving a preview to the sermon. And
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God take over our minds. I
mean that would that Would that not be
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the greatest? Would that not be
awesome? If God just took over your
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mind today? He just took over
your mind. God's controlling your brain.
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He's controlling every thought. Because think
of how much of you you are is
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controlled by your mind. If God
was to take over your mind, well,
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every thought would be right, every
thought would be pure, everything,
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every decision would be perfect. If
God was to take over I mean sometimes
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these prayers, I just I just
so baffled by the praying. Sometimes God
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is really going to take over our
minds, ladies and gentlemen, we would
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there would be the Christianity would be
the most unified religion in the history of
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religion. We would have one interpretation
because we would all think the same thing.
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Would it be great? If God
just good, just take over our
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minds two thousand years of church history. Has God ever taken over our minds?
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And if I say God has taken
over my mind, then you could
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not question or challenge anything that I
gave you because God has taken over.
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If I say I have been praying
for God to take over my mind and
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as of yesterday he has done it, well, guess what. Back off,
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You can't challenge anything I say.
You can't challenge any conclusion, because
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God has taken over my mind.
Like I don't even know. Like,
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at one hand, it's one thing
to pray for it, but if you're
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praying for it, you obviously are
believing God can do that. The minute
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you think God has taken over your
mind, I don't know what that leads
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to. The Consequences of that seem
pretty frightening to me, right But Okay,
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so he's kind of starting to give
the preview. And again this is
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why opening prayers and closing prayers.
Ah, if I'm the pastor and I'm
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praying, it's supposed to be me
communicating with God. When I get to
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the pulpit. What do I need
to communicate with God at that moment?
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What do I need to communicate with
God with? Like I should have already
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prayed for my sermon. And at
that point, if I'm saying God,
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because pastors will say God, let
me, you basically take control and let
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me only say what is pleasing to
you. Well, how does that work?
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Because you have a Presbyterian praying that, you have a Baptist praying that,
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and they will preach a sermon on
baptism giving completely different philological conclusions.
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God, if God is controlling what
we're saying, he would have stopped one
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of them because they both can't be
right. You'll have someone who's a you
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know, a someone who olds to
reform theology, maybe an Augustinian view,
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a Calvinistic view, as someone who's
a have an Armenian view, and guess
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what, God, They'll say,
God control my lips, let me only
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say what is pleased. Well,
that's two completely contradictory systems. So does
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God. I don't Sometimes I think
in church we use we use language without
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thinking of what we're actually saying.
I would love for God to take over
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my mind. Man, that would
be awesome. Can you imagine that?
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Ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to
the Theology Central podcast. This podcast is
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hosted by an individual whom God has
taken over his mind, meaning everything you
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were about to hear in this podcast
it comes directly from God, comes from
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a mind that is controlled by God. Therefore what I say is infallible,
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It is an errant. It is
true, and you cannot challenge and you
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cannot question it. Can you imagine
if I did a podcast like that,
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people would lose their minds. But
yet we pray like that, God control
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what I say. Control well,
the consequences of that would be better than
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the pope. We can act in
faith. Please lead us now in Jesus.
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Amen. All right, Genesis chapter
twelve. I'm gonna read for you
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verses ten through the end of the
chapter, and just you can tell that
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it's kind of distorting a little bit, So I have the volume turn I
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keep going, like, turn it
down, go back up. So I
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apologize if if it's all over the
place. But we're gonna we're gonna just
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try to now let him just get
far into this. I'm gonna try.
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I'm gonna try not to interrupt or
say anything. Who am I kiddy.
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Let's just see what happens. Now. There was a famine in the land,
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so Abram went down to Egypt to
sojourn there, for the famine was
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severe in the land. When he
was about to enter Egypt, he said
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to Sarah, his wife, I
know that you are a beautiful woman,
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beautiful in appearance, and when the
Egyptians see you, they will say this
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is his wife. Then they will
kill me, because they will let you
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live. But they will let you
live, say you are my sister,
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that it may go well with me
because of you, and that my wife
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may be spared for your sake.
When Abram entered Egypt, the Egyptians saw
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that the woman was very beautiful,
and when the princes of Pharaoh saw her,
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they pray to Pharaoh, and the
woman was taken into Pharaoh's house.
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And for her sake, he dealt
well with Abram, and he had sheep,
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oxen, male donkeys, male servants, female servants, female donkeys,
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and camels. But the lord afflicted
Pharaoh and his house with great plagues because
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of Sarah, Abram's wife. So
Pharaoh called Abraham and said, what is
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this? What is this you have
done to me? Why did you not
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tell me that she was your wife? Why did you say she is my
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sister so that I took her from
my wife? Now, then here is
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your wife, Take her and go. And Pharaoh gave men orders concerning him,
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and they sent him away with his
wife and all that he had all
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right, So think about Genesis chapter
twelve. Here a lot happens, A
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lot happens, and again, for
time's sake, the way Moses writes this,
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he writes this in such a way
that everything is just a matter of
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fact. He doesn't really make much
commentary. He just gives us the plain
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truth of the story. And so
the story in Genesis chapter twelve, this
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starts out well with great promises.
I hate that, not even that's nothing
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about the sermon yet, but it's
just about from a preaching perspective, I
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hate when I'm preaching or teaching and
I have to cough or something because I
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almost inevitably forget to mute my mic. You're wearing a lapel mic, so
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right there, you know, on
your hip, you usually have the little
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receiver there right, and you can
usually just click it over one and mute
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it. Right, you commute it, but almost inevitably you because you're thinking
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about the sermon, you don't think
of it. So then I'll cough,
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and I'll be like, oh,
oh man, what what what? Why
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didn't I mute the mic or or
at least turn my head from the mic,
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like take my hand and cover the
mic. Now, here. When
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I'm broadcasting, I can just simply
I can just simply click the little mute
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button right here. When you hear
that click, that's me muting the mic.
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But yeah, you always forget that
when I go back and if I'll
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listen to one of my messages,
I'm like, oh, man, what
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was I? Oh? That sounds
like trash. And then sometimes I'll just
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delete the message because I get really
bothered by Now I've seen most people you
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probably don't even think about that,
But from a public speaking perspective, I
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hear that. Now it's hard for
me not to go m see I that
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would have That would bother me if
I did that, But maybe it doesn't
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bother you. I don't know how
it's perceived by the people sitting in the
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pew versus the person behind the microphone. For me being behind the microphone,
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that that bothers me. But all
right, here we go Genesis twelve.
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All right, say are you glad
I interrupted for that? But see,
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I'm just if I wouldn't, I
would be a liar if I don't turn
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stop this and at least tell you
what I'm thinking, because that's why I
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would be thinking. That may be
very fleshly may be very not spiritual.
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But I'm just saying, when you've
been preaching for years and years and years
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and years and years, sometimes when
you start listening to a message, this
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is one of the negative things.
You start kind of critiquing the style,
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and and that's that's not necessarily a
good thing. Great, great promises from
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God, and if God makes a
promise, he keeps his promise. God
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promises land, he promises great nature
or descendants, and he promises blessing.
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All the families of the eyes will
be blessed through you. He says,
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Now this is very important here.
Look at exactly what God promises in Genesis
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twelve. Right, hey, Land, make a great nation and to bless
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He does not promise I will feed
you in a famine. He does not
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promise that. I think it's very
I think maybe the key to Genesis twelve,
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ten through twenty and to combat the
way most preachers handle this is look
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at exactly what is promised to Abraham
or Abram and what isn't promised. I
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think you may want to make that
list because because I think you're gonna hear
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a lot of the preachers are going
to kind of almost imply, well,
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why did Abraham go to Egypt when
there was a famine? God promised?
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But did God promise, hey,
I will feed you? And not only
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that. What is even more mind
blowing to me in this section is in
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Genesis twelve, God literally speaks to
Abram, literally interrupts and speaks directly,
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initiates the conversation twice with Abram twice
in Genesis twelve, two times. And
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then you get to Genesis twelve ten
there's a feminine land and guess who doesn't
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initiate a conversation God, God does
not say a word. Now, guess
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when God shows back up when he
then plagues Pharaoh's house. So why if
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God already initiated a conversation twice as
soon as the femine hit, why didn't
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God just step in and go who
whoa Woa? Abram? Abram? Abram,
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don't go to Egypt. Don't I
will feed you. I will provide
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for you if you did not understand
that that was implied in my promises.
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But I'm now being very specific so
that you understand why didn't God show up
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that to me? To me,
that may be the biggest question in Genesis
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twelve, God initiates two conversations.
But then here God's just like, I'm
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sorry. And when when when Abram's
coming up with this plan, Hey,
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here's hey, Sarah, tell them
you're my sister. They're gonna come take
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you. I don't know what's gonna
happen to you when they take you.
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I mean, it could go really
bad. But just know I'll be safe
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and I'll be okay. God didn't
step in and go Abram, I don't
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know what you're doing. But this
is a horrible idea. God doesn't step
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in. He doesn't step in when
he decides to go to Egypt. He
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doesn't step in when he comes up
with them. God just go silent.
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That to me is more of a
question than anything else. Now, let's
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see maybe he's going to address that. I think most of the time,
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most of the time, I don't
think people do because it makes them uncomfortable.
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But I think it's a good question
to ask. Then we after the
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great promises, we have great beginning. What does Abram do you bease God?
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It says Abram wimt Verse four.
So Abram went as the Lord had
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told him, and Lot went with
him. And it goes on and tells
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us that they went on together,
and so there was this great beginning.
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After the great promises, there was
obedience. And then two times in the
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next few verses, it said that
Abram built an altar that he worshiped.
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So you see Abram being obedient and
him bowing down before God. Now that
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makes God silence that much louder.
If Abram, whenever God does initiate a
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conversation and tell him what to do, if Abram immediately obeys, now we
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could argue is he obeying by bringing
a lot with him? Now we could
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argue this right. And trust me, you would think everyone would have an
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agreement on it. They don't.
Even in my own church. When we've
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covered this, I got some people
like, I don't think Lot did anything
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wrong. You got other people like
what what what? I don't think Abraham
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did anything wrong by bringing Lot along. I don't think he did anything wrong.
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And others would be like, what
are you talking about? Abram was
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supposed to leave everyone. He definitely
did something wrong. And you have people
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in the same church, reading the
same Bible who cannot agree. That's maddening.
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Okay, But here's whether you believe
his obedience was partial or complete or
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incomplete, whatever you believe about it. He obeyed to some level God tells
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him to leave. He leaves.
So then this makes God silence loud.
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Let me explain if every time God
initiated a conversation, Abram at least obeyed
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in part what God told him,
then all that was needed to avoid the
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entire Egyptian scandal, the entire Egypt
scandal, Abram could have. All God
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needed to say was don't go to
Egypt. Problem solved because Abram has demonstrated
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that he would obey what God told
him. God never initiates a converse,
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not one time. Why wouldn't God
step in here? Hey could have stopped
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the entire Egypt scandal, the entire
scandal that would have been all over you
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know social media. Did you hear
what Abram did? Did you hear what
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he did to his wife? This
is a piece of trash? Okay,
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that's how. But God doesn't step
in. He could have stopped it.
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I mean, obviously Pharaoh thinks Abram's
a piece of trash. Why why did
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you do this to me? Right? Pharaoh is not too happy with Abram,
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So there's at least scandal there.
I know there wasn't social media?
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Obviously, I'm joking. The point
is all of this could have been avoided
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because if every time God has spoken, Abram pretty much obeys, then why
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wouldn't God you step in here?
God's been giving him direction, but then
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when there's a famine, God's direction
stops. It's like, Oh, God's
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given me a GPS. Oh we
got a famine in the land. You're
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tapping on the screen. Whypn't to
my GPS? Oh no, my GPS
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went out. I guess I've got
to figure out what to do now.
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Now he figures out what he does
now, is that leaning to his own
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understanding? Well, you could argue
it is, But where else is he
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supposed to lean if God's and if
God's not initiating the conversation. Abram can't
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pull out his Bible into a Bible
study. He doesn't have that, So
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all he can rely on is if
God doesn't intervene, Abram's got to make
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the decision. There is no prohibition. There is no instructions between Genesis one
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and eleven not to go to Egypt, so you can't impose that being wrong.
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So what do you expect Abram to
do here? Now? The whole
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thing he does with Sarah, his
wife. We could call that into question.
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But again and that culture, he
is there some prohibition again about how
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you are to treat your wife.
Is there any instruction about how to treat
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your wife in Genesis one, two, three, four, five, six,
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seven, eight, nine, ten
eleven. You can go take from
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other scripture, because Abram would not
know what you're talking about. What a
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great response, what a great beginning, right to a man, or from
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a man who is from a completely
pagan culture. His father, Tera moon
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worshiper, was from a family that
was idolatrous. And God calls him out
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of that and says, nope,
this is what I'm going to do with
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you. You go, you listen, and he does great promise, great
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blessing, and it says even in
verse A. From there he moved on
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to the hill country on the east
of beth l and pitched his tent.
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Well. That word Bethel there that
means house of God, Beath means house
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and l is God. So Bethel
is the house of God. And so
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the idea here is that Abram's life
was surrounded with God and worship. That
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doesn't mean that's all he did.
Right, he had to work, he
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failed to function, but his life
was centered around who God was in God's
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promises. This is also this verse
here of verse eight is reminiscent of Jesus
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in John chapter one, where it
said that he pitched his tent among us.
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That's literally the words that could be
translated in John chapter one and be
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set about Jesus. And this is
what it says about Abram here Bethel.
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He went to Beth and pitched his
tent. He dwelt there. He understood
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the idea of pitching a tent is
I mean, back then it literally was
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a tent. But the idea of
pitching a tent is a temporary place of
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dwelling. You know, even though
you and I live in homes that are
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made of brick or siding and have
concrete and have all these great structures to
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them, they're temporary. Right.
We're not going to last forever. We're
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not going to live here forever,
and even our houses that are built well
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aren't going to endure forever. Right, So this idea of pitching a tents
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is the idea of that we're just
soldiers, we're just temporary here as God
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allows us to be that's interesting.
I'm not in any way disagreeing with the
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fact that to pitch a tent would
be seen as a temporary lodging place.
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And okay, but is the purpose
of this narrative is to point us to
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Christ in his incarnation? I don't
think so. Is this to remind us
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that we pitch a tent in our
our flesh and it's a temporary dwelling place,
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so we're just pilgrims. I don't
know. I don't know. I
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don't know if that. I think
this is just he pitched a literal tent
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because well, that's what he had. Now, you could argue that Abram
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as a pilgrim, as a stranger
is indicative of us, because the Bible
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does say that we're pilgrims and strangers. His whole journey may be one.
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I don't know about the pitching the
tent. Okay, but all right,
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you know, don't You can argue
if that's a decent application, if that's
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fair, if that's if that's in
accordance with the text. All right.
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I just want to see overall where
he's going to take this story. I
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have a feeling where this is going, but let's see let's just let's try
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to let it play out little more. All right, So we have great
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promises, great blessing, obedience,
worship in the House of God, and
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then we have great failure. All
right, Well, I figured that's where
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it was going. We have great
failure. So he is now accusing that
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the actions of Abram starting in Genesis
twelve ten is great failure. Now does
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that mean great sin? And what
has he failed? Now this is the
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issue. What did Abram fail at? Did he fail to obey God?
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Does he disobey God? Here?
God doesn't say don't go to Egypt?
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Is there a clear prohibition that Abram
is violating? Here there is no prohibition.
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There is no instruction that he is
violating. And even if you say
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Abram fail, why didn't God simply
intervene? He speak, He looked,
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look, look, just a few
verses before verse seven Genesis twelve seven,
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then the Lord appeared to Abram and
said, so, just a couple of
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verses before he literally appeared to Abram, all you would have to do now
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is just appear one more time to
Abram has said, please don't go to
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Egypt. I don't want you to
go to Egypt. That's against my will,
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don't do it. But he doesn't. And even after Abram goes to
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Egypt, he never does God ever
reprimand Abram. Does he ever tell Abram
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that he did wrong, does he
ever correct him, does he ever rebuke
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him? But preachers come along,
Abram was wrong on the basis of what?
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Well, on what basis are we
saying that what he did was wrong?
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Or are we just imposing that on
Abram? I find it fascinating that
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everyone wants to run to this text
and say what Abram did was wrong.
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In fact, this is called a
great and he will see how he emphasized
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it great fail your a great failure? Well, what did he fail at?
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Now we take some of these actions
and judge them according to standards,
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ideas, morality, and scripture that
comes much later, way after Abram has
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died. We can then take that
morality, those ideas, those scriptures,
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bring them back to Genesis twelve,
and then judge him. But why how
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can Abraham be judged on rules,
laws, and morality that has yet even
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been established or even stated. He's
literally having a ongoing conversation with God.
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God is the one establishing the rules
here, what rule did Abram violate great
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failure. Verse ten. Now there's
a famine in the land. Okay,
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that's something that Abram could not help. That's something he did not have control
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of, was the famine in the
land. Just as you and I do
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not have control of the economy here, we don't have control of diseases.
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You know. I think if anybody
in this room could, could you know,
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wave your own little magic wand you
would have said, let's not do
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COVID. Right, if we were
quote unquote in control, we would have
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said, let's do this. Different
gods in control and things like COVID or
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other diseases, bad things like a
famine. You know what they are.
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They're part of the curse of the
world. They're part of sin. They're
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gonna happen. Okay, so there's
a famine that out of Abram's control.
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But do you notice what happened Moses
as he writes this about Abram, talks
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about Adam's Abram's faith here right his
great beginning, he's obedient, he's worshiping.
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Now something happens disruption. Now you've
got chapter breaks in your Bible or
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not, Well, you have chapter
breaks, but you also have section breaks.
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In your Bible, and you have
headings that wasn't written originally. Okay,
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it wasn't written there, and it
doesn't say when Moses wrote this.
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He doesn't go Abram and Sarah in
Egypt. He doesn't put that above the
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section. Right, that's just to
help you and I to understand things a
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little bit better. So he goes
right on, and Abram journeyed on,
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still going toward Negeb. Now there
was a famine in the land, so
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Abraham went down to Egypt. He
makes a turn. God didn't tell him
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to go there. God didn't tell
him not to go there. So are
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we gonna so how are we gonna
go? Regulative or normative principle? Now,
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I know that's typically a principle applied
to worship in the church. But
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is it regulative or normative? It
can? Can Abram only do what God
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specifically instructs him to do or has
an example for him to follow. So
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because God did not specifically say go
to Egypt. Because God did not say
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specifically go to Egypt, therefore he's
wrong to go to Egypt. Now we
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could if we go more normative principle. Well, Abram can do anything unless
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it's specifically prohibited or specific instruction against. Well, there's clearly no instruction or
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prohibition against going to Egypt, literally
none. And God has been directing every
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single step up to this point.
Right. If God has been directing the
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steps, he appears in Genesis twelve
one, he appears in Genesis twelve seven.
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Now we get to ten, there's
a famine in the land. Now
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I don't know how quickly he goes
down to Egypt, but obviously it says
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he goes down to Egypt to dwell
there, for the famine was severe,
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So obviously it seems that maybe he
sticks around until he realizes how bad the
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famine is, and then he goes
down to Egypt. Possibly you could possibly
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read it that way, Maybe you
don't, but it sounds like the famine
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doesn't just go from no famine boom
famine to boom severe famine in like forty
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eight hours. It would have been
a prolonged period of time as the famine
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got worse and worse and worse.
Abron then decided to go down. Now
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you can sit there. We can
argue about this all day, but I
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can be emphatic and dogmatic about this. Where was God? God doesn't step
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in. So is the failure on
Abram? Or is the failure on God?
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I mean, at this point God's
been stepping in. Maybe Abram's like,
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Okay, well God's not telling me
what to do here. I've got
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I got people to take care of. We're gonna die. Now. You
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can say, well, that's a
lack of faith. What a lack of
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faith in? What where has God
told him? He don't worry about it.
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I will feed you. No,
God said from him will come a
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great nation. It doesn't say that
God was going to preserve all the people
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with him. Doesn't say God was
going to preserve his cattle or any No,
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he had to make a decision.
So is what he's doing here is
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wrong? I know we love to
say that it is. I just don't
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know how we can be so emphatic
and dogmatic that we are condemning this action.
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I just don't know. God could
have stepped in at any point and
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time. That was something he decided
to do all on his own. Maybe
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that's shocking to you now, And
and I would say with you, but
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doesn't it make sense that he would
go where their food was? Absolutely makes
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sense. You and I might make
the same decision right, and often we
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make a decision that seems to make
worldly sense that isn't for our godly good.
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Do you believe that if Abram stayed
obeying God, stayed in the place
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to worship God, that God would
not have provided for him? What are
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you basing that off of? Even
if God provided for Abram, was he
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going to provide for the people with
Abram? Maybe they would have all starved
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and died. Would that have been
the best decision? Hey, Abram,
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Well, Abram, like, look, look, guys, I know there's
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food in Egypt, but hey,
we're gonna stay here because God's going to
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provide. He's not promised me that
he's going to provide. He's not shown
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up, he's not smoke. I
know he's spoken to me twice and he's
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told me exactly where to go.
He's he's not talking right now, he's
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not intervening. But I just know
God's going to provide. Well, So
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let's say God provided fed Abraham other
people died. Is that hey it's all
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good? Though, it's all good. It's all good because because Abram did
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the right thing. Like I don't
understand are why we want to run to
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this story and throw Abram so far
under the proverbial bus. All he has
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to go by is what is in
Genesis twelve one to Genesis twelve nine.
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Genesis twelve one to twelve nine,
God literally intervenes and initiates a conversation with
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Abram twice. Now a famine and
God goes silent. But Abram's the one
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who's wrong. How dare he go
to Egypt? What a piece of trash,
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what a great fell? What?
I have a hard time with this
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perspective. I do. Look,
I've preached this perspective because this is what
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I was always taught. I was
always taught. Egypt is a picture of
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the world. And so Abram,
the man of faith, is demonstrating a
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lack of faith by turning to the
world instead of turning to God. So
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when things go bad in your life, don't turn to the world, don't
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turn to worldly wisdom. Turn to
God and God will take care of you.
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And everyone says amen. Now,
of course, everyone turns to the
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world and our worldly wisdom every single
time something goes wrong. But I digress.
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But in this particular that's the way
I've always preached this. But at
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some point you start thinking Wait a
minute, How am I imposing this like
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sin, this failure onto Abram based
of what he knows? He knows God
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has shown up twice, and he
has done exactly as God has told him
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each and every single time. Then
something bad happens and God doesn't show up.
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So what does Abram do. I
absolutely believe that God meant what he
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said when he promised him, I'm
going to give you this land, you
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and your descendants. You're gonna have
a You're gonna have many descendants, more
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than you can count, right,
and you're gonna be a blessing to everybody
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in yours. There's no promise of
feeding him, there's no promise of provision
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in the middle of a famine.
I don't know how we can just like
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from those very basic promises Abraham is
supposed or Abraham is supposed to then go
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oh wait, wait, wait,
guys, guys, guys, guys,
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based off the and you know,
he's got the promises written on the refrigerator,
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I know, not an actual refrigerator. And he's like, okay,
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guys, everyone come in right,
he's got it written on a white board
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and you know, sharpie and you
know brings everyone into the living room.
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All right, guys, look,
look, I know, I know we're
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all starving everything, there's no food, but look see these promises God gave.
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This tells me he's gonna feed us. Now, someone in the back
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and raised my hand. Are you
sure? Because I'm not seeing food or
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or feed during famine and that promise? Well, you just got to see
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us between the lines. Okay,
I got another question, Yes, yes,
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go ahead ask uh. Well,
God spoke to you the first time
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for us to leave, right,
Yes, God spoke to you a second
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time. Yes? Has God intervened
or spoken to you since then? Well?
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No, hmm, I don't know. Abram if he's been giving us
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such specific instruction and he's not giving
us instruction now, you think then we
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should just sit here until we get
further instruction. Now, you could make
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an argument there that what Abram should
have done is stayed until God spoke.
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I guess you could have could have
done. I guess you could make that
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argument. I guess you couldn't make
that argument. Maybe maybe you could present
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it that way that what Abram should
have done is called out to God and
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said I'm going to stay. But
how much does Abram know about God.
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I mean, we act like that. Abram's got you know, he's been
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walking with God for seventy five years
at this point, and he's got a
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great understanding. Didn't they all start
basically in Genesis twelve? Maybe maybe we
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could argue a little bit in chapter
eleven. I know we can get a
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whole argument in how twelve one is
written, but I just don't know.
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Let's see where he takes this.
Did the famine change that? Do circumstances
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change God's promises? They don't.
Circumstances don't change God's promises. But let
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me mention a couple of things.
Circumstances don't change God's promises, but stop
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claiming promises that have never been made
to you. That's a good one.
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And number two, circumstances don't change
God's promises, but circumstances doesn't also call
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for you to add to those promises. Right, Hey, Circumstances don't change
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God's promises, but circumstances is not
a license for you to add to those
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promises. Saying Okay, well,
God's promised these three things, but hey,
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guys, I'm gonna go ahead and
add some here. He's gonna also
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feed us he's gonna preserve us,
he's gonna keep us, and this is
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for all of us, all the
cat Well, we're not gonna lose anything.
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Well, but he didn't promise that. I know he didn't promise that.
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But circumstances allow me to add to
his promise. Circumstances don't change God's
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promises. But circumstances don't allow you
to claim promises that are not for you,
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and they don't allow you to add
to those promises. And I'm going
686
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to tell you that's really, really
hard. It's not hard to understand here,
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it's hard to do here. Right, Circumstances do not change God's promises.
688
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What God says he means, and
when God makes a promise, he
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always fulfills it. It doesn't always
look like we think it's going to look
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like, and it doesn't happen in
the time that we think it should take.
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Abram never saw the fruit of all
these promises. He never saw the
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fruit of all of these promises.
But you're telling me he should stick around.
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And because God was going he was
going to see the fruit of the
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promise to feed him during a famine. Hey, Hey, all these promises,
695
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Abram never actually saw the fruit of
them. But I want you to
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know it was a failure for him
to go to Egypt during a famine because
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God promised. Well, what if
he never saw the fruit of the promise
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and he would have starved to death? Like, on one hand, you're
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like, Abram he had promises,
he should have stayed, even though there's
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no actual promise about providing for him
during a famine. But let you say
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it's implied. But then you turn
around and say, hey, but guys,
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just remember all of these promises that
Abram received. He never saw the
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fruit of it. But yet he
should have stuck around to hold on to
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a promise that he meant and may
never see the fruit of. In the
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time of a famine, where if
you don't have food after a certain number
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of days, you die. You
do realize there's a limit to how long
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you can wait without food, right, you do realize that, right,
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there's a limited amount of time you
can go without food. I mean,
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I mean by all means, either
you can test it if you would like,
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or you can google it. How
long can a person go without food?
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There's a limit amount of time.
So it's not like you're like,
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well, I'm gonna wait for the
fruit of this promise. Okay, well,
713
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well we just lost a couple of
cattle. They died they didn't have
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food. Oh wait, we lost
a couple of servants they died they didn't
715
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have food. Or we're gonna keep
holding out. But what if one person
716
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dies? Do you then just say, well, that's on God. And
717
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what I love about this is because
to me, this sets up the inevitable
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contradiction in the world of Christianity.
On one hand, we'll look at Abram,
719
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he should have just trusted God.
Don't go get food, don't do
720
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anything. Trust God. But on
the other hand, hey, guys,
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there's been a couple of church shootings. We need to make sure we have
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people in this church armed with guns
in case someone comes in, because we
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trust God. But if God doesn't
show up, we're gonna put a couple
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of bullets and anyone who attempts to
attack us. Hey, hey, Abram,
725
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:04.199
you're supposed to trust God. But
hey, we're gonna lock our doors.
726
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We're gonna have a security system.
We're gonna do this. We're gonna
727
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do this. We're gonna do this, We're gonna do We're gonna take all
728
01:00:09.599 --> 01:00:13.239
of these percussions, and we're gonna
do all of this, and we're gonna
729
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make sure we have provision, and
we're gonna do this, and we're gonna
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save up for the future, and
we're gonna do this, and we're gonna
731
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have insurance, and we're gonna do
this, and we're gonna do this.
732
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And we had to wait a minute. Wait a minute, Wait a minute.
733
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Did God instruct you to remember?
He said, God never instructed him
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to go to Egypt? Well,
has God ever instructed you to take this
735
01:00:30.039 --> 01:00:34.119
percussion or this percussion or this percussion? Are you not leaning to your own
736
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understanding? Are you not demonstrating a
lack of trust in God? Just trust
737
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God He will provide. I mean, can't you use the same argument against
738
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us that you're gonna use the Abram? Are we gonna hold Abram to a
739
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standard that we're not gonna hold ourselves
to? Because I am not seeing in
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01:00:52.079 --> 01:00:55.880
these promises that Abram is like,
hey, stay right here, I will
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feed you and all the people with
you sure that no one dies. I
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01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:10.360
don't see that promise anywhere, or
at least not at this point. If
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God tells you to be faithful to
him in purity, in finances, in
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01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:29.119
friendship, in love, in work, in whatever He's called you to do.
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01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:37.760
Your circumstances do not change God's ability
to fulfill those promises. They do
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not change God's ability to work through
you, or work in you, or
747
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to provide for you. And now
your mind is going, yeah, but
748
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pastor now again if you're going to
take this, hey, hey, No
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01:01:55.360 --> 01:02:00.000
matter the circumstance, God will provide. Now, I'm just going to raise
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01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:02.039
some questions. You can look it
up today. Look up how many people
751
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starve to death every day in the
world. Every day? How many people
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die of starvation? Just look it
up? How many people die daily of
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01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:15.000
starvation? Do you want me to
look it up for you? Would you
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like me to look it up for
you? Would you do you want me
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01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:20.800
to look it up. I can
look it up for you. Would do
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you want me to No? Yes, No, I'm hearing different answers.
757
01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:28.119
Okay, I'm going to look it
up, all right, I'm going to
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look it up. How many people
die each day of starvation? Twenty five
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01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:50.480
thousand people Each day, twenty five
thousand people, including more than ten thousand
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01:02:50.599 --> 01:02:53.880
children, die from hunger and related
causes. Some eight hundred and fifty four
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01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:59.800
million people worldwide estimated to be undernourished, and high food prices may drive a
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No, they're one hundred million end
of poverty. Twenty five thousand people die
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every single day, every single day
of starvation, twenty five thousand, ten
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thousand children every single day. So
when you go to bed tonight, just
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remember about ten thousand children has died
of starvation. Now, whenever I point
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these statistics out, Christians get mad
at me and they push back and they're
767
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like, oh, how dare you
say so? But usually the argument,
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well, they're not Christians, so
everyone who dies of starvation is not a
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Christian because if they were a Christian, God would have provided for That's the
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go to argument. But again the
argument is God will provide. God will
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provide. God will provide, so
just trust God. Well, then I
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don't understand. The argument is,
Abram, just stay right here, God
773
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will provide for you. And hey, you out there, hey, when
774
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you facing circumstances, you just trust
God will provide. Well, if we're
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gonna trust God to such this extent, then why do we do it?
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Why don't we just trust God to
provide whatever we need? Now? With
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then people say, but you've got
to do your part. Well, you're
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telling me Abram his part was not
to do anything. So which is Christians
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01:04:28.559 --> 01:04:31.400
seem to go back and forth.
Hey, God is our rock, our
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01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:36.000
refuge, our fortress, our shield, our protector. But make sure you
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01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:40.480
own a gun. Well, I
see my rock, my fortress, my
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shelter. Is he or isn't he? When is it? Hey? Hey,
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01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:47.400
we'll sing about how God will protect
us in this church, but we
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will also have armed guards. Wait, I don't get it. So when
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is he? When isn't he?
Which is it? Because I'm hearing that
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Abraham did everything wrong here? I
know it is because mine does the same
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thing. Yeah, but look at
the people over here and how bad they're
788
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struggling. Some of them have to
I'm not God. I'm not going to
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play him. I would do a
really bad job. All I can tell
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01:05:27.480 --> 01:05:33.239
you is that God is faithful.
So we see great failure here. Famine
791
01:05:33.440 --> 01:05:39.960
made sense to go to Egypt not
the right thing to do. Again,
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the accusation is that it was the
wrong thing to do. The accusation.
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01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:48.719
But no, nothing is provided to
demonstrate that what he's doing here is wrong.
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We just impose it. We presuppose
it and pose it onto the text.
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There is nothing in Genesis one,
two, three, four, five,
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six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, and twelve.
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One two, three, four,
five, six, seven, eight,
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and nine. This says, don't
go to Egypt. And not only
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that, we still have the struggle
of God appearing in one, verse one
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and verse seven. But yet when
the famine happens, God goes absolutely silent.
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But yet Abram, you're to blame. You're a failure. I just
802
01:06:24.599 --> 01:06:29.199
don't get it. I don't.
I know it preaches good that I've stated
803
01:06:29.199 --> 01:06:34.039
it so many times. Some of
the most damage to the Word of God
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has occurred because of preaching. More
than any other thing. Preaching takes the
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text, and we have to create
sermons, and when we create sermons we
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do a lot of things to the
text that was never designed to be done
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01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:54.199
to the text. We go to
Genesis twelve, and we've got our preaching
808
01:06:54.320 --> 01:06:58.400
is such a morality? Tell right, well, our preaching is always like
809
01:06:58.480 --> 01:07:00.800
we got to tell people they can't
do this, do this, don't do
810
01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:03.239
this, feel bad about doing this, feel bad about everything is morality.
811
01:07:03.280 --> 01:07:06.800
Morality, morality, morality. So
we go to Genesis twelve. We are
812
01:07:06.840 --> 01:07:10.800
like, Okay, we got to
find something that he did wrong so that
813
01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:13.760
I can challenge to people about the
things that they do wrong, so we
814
01:07:13.800 --> 01:07:16.719
can all be challenged to do better. Because all Christianity is is moralism.
815
01:07:19.039 --> 01:07:27.719
So we want to throw Abram under
the bus here by just imposing onto the
816
01:07:27.719 --> 01:07:34.800
text a prohibition that doesn't exist in
the text. It wasn't where he was
817
01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:46.559
called to go. Nevertheless, he
goes down there and I don't know where
818
01:07:46.599 --> 01:07:50.599
their church is located. It sounds
like it's located right on the highway.
819
01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:54.280
And that car was loud that went
by. I don't know if you heard
820
01:07:54.280 --> 01:07:59.599
that. That was loud. Okay, so that our church is located right
821
01:07:59.599 --> 01:08:01.960
next to us highway and sometimes you'll
hear me in the middle Oficarmon going what
822
01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:05.239
in the world was that, Because
it'll be some loud car that will go
823
01:08:05.280 --> 01:08:10.559
by. So I definitely understand their
pain. That's so frustrating. When that
824
01:08:10.599 --> 01:08:16.119
happens. He's about to answer Egypt
and we don't know if people are already
825
01:08:16.279 --> 01:08:23.279
noticing the beauty of his wife or
not yet doesn't really tell us exactly when
826
01:08:23.319 --> 01:08:29.079
that starts to happen. But he
understands how pretty his wife was, it's
827
01:08:29.079 --> 01:08:39.159
like Tina, and he says,
you know what, They're going to want
828
01:08:39.159 --> 01:08:45.760
to kill me if they think that
I'm a threat, right, if if
829
01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:49.920
they think I'm your husband, they're
just going to take me out because you
830
01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:54.800
know that's not going to look good. Somebody's going to want you, want
831
01:08:54.880 --> 01:08:59.760
you more than I can have the
ability to protect you or protect this relationship.
832
01:08:59.800 --> 01:09:03.760
So let's lie. That's what he
says. He doesn't say that,
833
01:09:03.840 --> 01:09:09.279
but that's what he says. All
right, now are we ready for this?
834
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Here we go? Here we go
in Genesis one to chapter twelve,
835
01:09:16.960 --> 01:09:25.039
verse nine. Now here's your challenge
today. Genesis one one to Genesis twelve
836
01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:33.039
nine. Find me where there is
a prohibition, law or instruction against lying.
837
01:09:39.079 --> 01:09:44.000
Can we take the prohibition that God
hates lying? And all the scriptures
838
01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:48.920
about lying being wrong that are later
revealed not revealed at this time. Abram
839
01:09:48.960 --> 01:09:53.680
can't be looking up you know,
don't bear false witness, don't lie.
840
01:09:53.840 --> 01:09:58.880
He can't be looking in proverbs about
God hates lying lips, and nothing about
841
01:09:58.920 --> 01:10:01.560
being true. There's nothing scripture.
He's got no Bible, he's got no
842
01:10:01.600 --> 01:10:06.960
body. His interaction with God seems
very limited to what God has told him
843
01:10:06.960 --> 01:10:12.640
in Genesis twelve one and Genesis twelve
seven. Some will argue that the call
844
01:10:12.720 --> 01:10:15.359
to Abram came before twelve one and
it's kind of repeated in twelve one.
845
01:10:15.520 --> 01:10:21.520
We could get into that discussion,
but the discussion God initiating conversations with Abram
846
01:10:21.680 --> 01:10:26.319
have been very limited about this is
what you can and this is what you
847
01:10:26.359 --> 01:10:29.199
can't, or not. Really,
he doesn't even say what you can't do.
848
01:10:29.399 --> 01:10:30.439
He just says, this is what
I want you to do. There's
849
01:10:30.479 --> 01:10:36.880
not really any laying down any system
of morality. So Abram he's like,
850
01:10:36.960 --> 01:10:41.039
okay, guys, we got to
go to Egypt because we're gonna starve.
851
01:10:41.159 --> 01:10:44.479
So he makes a decision. God
does not intervene. Then he's like,
852
01:10:44.520 --> 01:10:46.600
okay, now we got another problem. All right, if I if we
853
01:10:46.680 --> 01:10:51.279
go in this way because Sarah,
Sarah is so beautiful, they're gonna kill
854
01:10:51.319 --> 01:10:54.920
me. And if they kill me, what does that leave for the rest
855
01:10:54.920 --> 01:10:57.279
of you? Where does that leave
Sarah? Where does that leave any the
856
01:10:57.319 --> 01:11:00.319
wret you're gonna be, You're gonna
be all in trouble. So now you
857
01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:03.520
could argue, Now you could argue
he's being selfish out of fear. You
858
01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:08.840
could argue he's trying to be strategic. We could have this debate all day,
859
01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:12.399
but he comes up with this scheme. Now I don't like the scheme.
860
01:11:12.439 --> 01:11:15.520
I think the scheme is very questionable
at best. I think the scheme
861
01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:19.840
is somewhat messed up. It puts
Sarah in the most vulnerable position. Now,
862
01:11:19.840 --> 01:11:25.239
we could argue, how are women
viewed in Genesis chapter twelve at that
863
01:11:25.359 --> 01:11:30.159
point in time and human history?
Was the woman? How was the woman
864
01:11:30.279 --> 01:11:33.399
viewed as? Like? How was
she viewed? And we probably won't like
865
01:11:33.439 --> 01:11:38.560
the answer. She's probably not viewed
the way we would think that woman should
866
01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:43.680
be viewed today. But either way, he makes this strategic decision. Now
867
01:11:43.720 --> 01:11:48.399
again I'm going to scream and emphasize
again God doesn't step in. He stepped
868
01:11:48.399 --> 01:11:50.680
in in twelve to one, he
steps in in twelve seven, and he
869
01:11:50.800 --> 01:11:54.880
just goes silent. You're like,
God, this is the time to step
870
01:11:54.920 --> 01:11:59.520
in, But he doesn't. He
doesn't step in, and he allows this
871
01:11:59.640 --> 01:12:03.399
to go down. Now again,
he just referred to this as a lie
872
01:12:03.479 --> 01:12:10.359
to deception? Is this a sin? So here's the question. Can we
873
01:12:10.560 --> 01:12:18.520
judge the people in Genesis according to
the law that is not revealed until Exodus.
874
01:12:20.920 --> 01:12:28.960
Can we judge the actions of the
people in Genesis who are living before
875
01:12:29.119 --> 01:12:32.000
the law the law has not been
revealed, that the law has not been
876
01:12:32.119 --> 01:12:36.600
articulated. Can we judge them?
Now? There are times God steps in
877
01:12:36.640 --> 01:12:41.640
and says behavior is sinful, or
this is wicked, or this is wrong.
878
01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:45.800
He seems to clearly articulate that.
Now, when God steps in and
879
01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:48.640
says it's wrong, then by all
means it's wrong because God is now imposing
880
01:12:48.920 --> 01:12:54.279
his standard, which is always his
standard at any time. But if you're
881
01:12:54.359 --> 01:12:59.079
living at this time, you don't
have direct access to God's standard. Okay,
882
01:12:59.159 --> 01:13:02.199
there's not a book you can read, there's not a law anywhere given.
883
01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:13.680
So is Abraham acting and an accordance
to what he thinks is best?
884
01:13:14.399 --> 01:13:18.199
Or is he violating a law?
But there's been no law established, So
885
01:13:18.399 --> 01:13:25.640
like, how do you judge this
action? Just as there's no prohibition against
886
01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:28.319
going to Egypt in Genesis one,
two, three, four, five,
887
01:13:28.439 --> 01:13:30.760
six, seven, eleven, Chapter
twelve, verses one through nine, there
888
01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:36.399
is also no prohibition or instruction against
lying in Genesis twelve. Are Genesis one
889
01:13:36.720 --> 01:13:43.560
all the way to Genesis's twelve ten, there is no prohibition instructions against it.
890
01:13:43.640 --> 01:13:47.079
Now, maybe you can find something
that would possibly imply it, but
891
01:13:47.199 --> 01:13:50.840
I don't know where that would be. So how to how is Abram to
892
01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:55.079
be judged? And even if you
find some scripture goes well, this would
893
01:13:55.079 --> 01:14:00.920
seem to imply that God doesn't like
it. Does Abram have just direct access
894
01:14:00.960 --> 01:14:03.680
to the text that you're quoting.
He doesn't have access to any text.
895
01:14:09.640 --> 01:14:15.159
Hey, let's come up with this
lie. Now, if you've read this
896
01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:18.319
before and you know the story of
Genesis, you know it's not completely a
897
01:14:18.399 --> 01:14:23.880
lie. But that's how most lies
are, right, they're the skin of
898
01:14:23.920 --> 01:14:30.520
the truth. So turn with me
just a couple chapters to Genesis, chapter
899
01:14:30.600 --> 01:14:48.319
twenty, and in verse eleven,
it says Abram said, I did it
900
01:14:48.359 --> 01:14:53.920
because now this is the he's lying
again here by the way, I did
901
01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:58.760
it because I thought there is no
fear of God at all in this place,
902
01:14:58.800 --> 01:15:01.000
and they will kill me because of
my wife. Besides, she is
903
01:15:01.039 --> 01:15:05.840
indeed my sister, the daughter of
my father, though not the daughter of
904
01:15:05.880 --> 01:15:14.439
my mother, and she became my
wife. Okay, so Sarah was actually
905
01:15:14.520 --> 01:15:18.840
his half sister. And he said, well, that's weird. It kind
906
01:15:18.840 --> 01:15:25.399
of is weird. For us,
but back then the population pool was much
907
01:15:25.399 --> 01:15:30.680
smaller. Okay, now I love
this. Oh this is this is so
908
01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:34.239
good. Okay, this is how
people deal with Genesis all the time.
909
01:15:34.319 --> 01:15:38.640
If there's something that makes us uncomfortable, and there's something that we don't like,
910
01:15:38.680 --> 01:15:41.239
we said, well, well,
I know it sounds strange to us,
911
01:15:41.279 --> 01:15:44.479
but at that time, and then
we make all these excuses for the
912
01:15:44.520 --> 01:15:46.640
behavior. Hey, I know he
married his in a sense, I guess
913
01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:49.479
half sister, but hey, hey, at that time, this would have
914
01:15:49.479 --> 01:15:53.399
been okay, wait a minute,
wait a minute. So that means we're
915
01:15:53.439 --> 01:16:00.479
not going to impose later morality onto
Abraham as far as him marrying Sarah,
916
01:16:00.600 --> 01:16:10.159
But then we are going to impose
later morality on Abram for his line.
917
01:16:11.880 --> 01:16:16.720
How do we play this game?
Hey, sometimes we look at the people
918
01:16:16.760 --> 01:16:20.039
in Genesis and we're like, they
violated this, this, this, this,
919
01:16:20.039 --> 01:16:24.039
this, But in other times,
well, they had to marry this,
920
01:16:24.159 --> 01:16:28.680
or they had to they had to
be involved in marrying a sibling because
921
01:16:28.720 --> 01:16:32.279
well that's that's their only option.
Well okay, so then so then we
922
01:16:32.399 --> 01:16:38.439
excuse the behavior. And in other
cases, so hey, he had to
923
01:16:38.439 --> 01:16:41.880
marry me. The population pool was
small, he had to marry her.
924
01:16:43.159 --> 01:16:45.199
Hey, there's a femine in the
land. Well, he should have just
925
01:16:45.239 --> 01:16:48.159
trusted God. He should have just
trusted God. That's what he should have
926
01:16:48.159 --> 01:16:53.279
done. He was wrong to go
to Egypt. God could have provided Well,
927
01:16:53.319 --> 01:17:01.199
could God provided a spouse other than
a relative? Could he? I
928
01:17:01.239 --> 01:17:05.239
mean, you see, we have
these weird standards. Like one time we
929
01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:10.279
impose this standard, in the next
minute we impose a different standard. We
930
01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:15.840
are very inconsistent in our morality,
in our standards, especially as we read
931
01:17:15.279 --> 01:17:23.760
things like Genesis. This is before
the prohibition to do such things. So
932
01:17:24.039 --> 01:17:30.439
there was no sin in it.
See, there's no prohibition against this because
933
01:17:30.479 --> 01:17:35.079
there's no sin in it. But
there was a prohibition against going to Egypt.
934
01:17:35.359 --> 01:17:41.960
See, he imposed a prohibition on
Abram about going into Egypt, even
935
01:17:42.039 --> 01:17:45.479
there is no prohibition there. Then
when he talks about him marrying his half
936
01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:49.279
sister, well, hey, this
was okay because there was no prohibition against
937
01:17:49.279 --> 01:17:56.159
it. So one second, Abram's
wrong even though he's not violating a prohibition,
938
01:17:56.399 --> 01:17:59.840
and the next minute he is violating
what will be later a prohibition.
939
01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:02.079
But he's not wrong because that prohibition
doesn't exist. Well, then you can't
940
01:18:02.159 --> 01:18:06.239
judge him on any action in which
there is not a prohibition against. If
941
01:18:06.279 --> 01:18:11.640
you're going to excuse him marrying his
half sister, then you've got to excuse
942
01:18:11.800 --> 01:18:16.479
every other behavior unless that behavior has
a prohibition in the text, or God
943
01:18:16.640 --> 01:18:21.199
himself steps in and says this behavior
is wrong. And guess what God never
944
01:18:21.319 --> 01:18:26.359
does. Does God step in and
tell him that he's wrong? And what
945
01:18:26.399 --> 01:18:29.479
he does in Genesis twelve, No, he doesn't. In fact, Abram
946
01:18:29.520 --> 01:18:32.800
comes out better off, he comes
out rich. They come out fed,
947
01:18:33.479 --> 01:18:41.239
provided for and rich. God does
never intervenes and reprimends or condemns what he
948
01:18:41.279 --> 01:18:45.079
did. But yet that's a great
failure. Hey over here where it tells
949
01:18:45.119 --> 01:18:49.439
me who he married, Hey,
that's not a failure because God's not given
950
01:18:49.439 --> 01:18:53.960
a prohibition against it. But over
here it's wrong even though God's not given
951
01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:58.960
a prohibition against it. I think
sometimes, I know Christians don't like to
952
01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:04.159
admit this. Our morality sometimes very
much sounds like relativism, and we pick
953
01:19:04.239 --> 01:19:08.439
and choose when it's wrong and when
it's not wrong. And that's a problem.
954
01:19:08.600 --> 01:19:15.000
And I think it's a very problematic
in how we sometimes handle Genesis because
955
01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:18.880
they weren't told any different and in
the beginning. That's just kind of what
956
01:19:18.920 --> 01:19:26.760
you had to do. And so
you know this is dad's daughter and not
957
01:19:26.920 --> 01:19:35.399
mom's daughter. And so understand also
in that culture, especially where he came
958
01:19:35.439 --> 01:19:41.119
from, right, he's coming from
an idolatrous place. In that place he
959
01:19:41.199 --> 01:19:45.319
came from, it's very likely that
the dad's side and the mom's side didn't
960
01:19:45.359 --> 01:19:50.319
even mingle, so they may not
known each other that well anyway, it
961
01:19:50.399 --> 01:19:57.079
is, so now we're going to
come up with a cultural excuse. Hey,
962
01:19:57.079 --> 01:20:00.439
well, at the culture at that
time or at the culture at that
963
01:20:00.560 --> 01:20:03.560
time, is it not possible that
A if the if the wife's got to
964
01:20:03.600 --> 01:20:06.880
die to preserve the husband, then
that's the way it should be. Why
965
01:20:06.880 --> 01:20:12.800
don't we make a cultural excuse for
that at that time and that culture.
966
01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:16.239
If there's a femine in the land
going to where there's food, that makes
967
01:20:16.319 --> 01:20:23.079
sense. How come there's a cultural
explanation for a later behavior, but no
968
01:20:23.239 --> 01:20:27.439
cultural explanation for his actions in genesis
to wel, I think we just make
969
01:20:27.560 --> 01:20:33.560
up the rules. I like this, this is, this is this is
970
01:20:33.720 --> 01:20:43.000
fascinating to me how we play these
games. This half sister, but it
971
01:20:43.039 --> 01:20:46.039
was a it wasn't a half lie. It's either a liar not a lie,
972
01:20:46.359 --> 01:20:49.840
right, And he was really lying
because he wasn't trying to prove that
973
01:20:49.920 --> 01:20:55.119
it was a sister. He was
trying to hide that it was his wife.
974
01:20:57.479 --> 01:21:00.399
So hey, okay, we're going
to excuse this, but hey,
975
01:21:00.520 --> 01:21:03.399
his lying was wrong on the basis
of what you just said. That his
976
01:21:03.560 --> 01:21:06.880
marriage is not wrong because there was
no prohibition against it. Where is the
977
01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:18.399
prohibition against lying? Where is the
prohibition against a half truth? Now you're
978
01:21:18.399 --> 01:21:21.880
gonna say, well that's later,
Well, there's a letter of prohibition against
979
01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:26.840
marrying like this. So if you're
going to take that past the future prohibition
980
01:21:26.920 --> 01:21:30.079
and bring it back to the text, you've got to bring all the future
981
01:21:30.079 --> 01:21:34.079
prohibitions and apply all of them to
the text. You can't just pick and
982
01:21:34.159 --> 01:21:42.720
choose, all right. So we
have this pretty woman here, this beautiful
983
01:21:42.760 --> 01:21:50.119
woman Sarah, and this man Abram. Going is the wrong direction because they're
984
01:21:50.199 --> 01:21:57.800
going away from what God had told
them to do. Now I don't know
985
01:21:57.880 --> 01:22:04.079
which translation you all are working on, but here's what happens. So it
986
01:22:04.119 --> 01:22:09.840
says the princess of Pharaoh saw her. So these are people that would have
987
01:22:09.920 --> 01:22:15.880
Pharaoh's ear, people that are important
in the government also took notice how beautiful
988
01:22:15.880 --> 01:22:23.000
that Sarah was, and they said, hey, Pharaoh, look at this,
989
01:22:25.279 --> 01:22:30.079
and so he takes her into his
house with the intention of making her
990
01:22:30.520 --> 01:22:36.720
his wife. Now this is why
I said, I don't know what translation
991
01:22:36.720 --> 01:22:41.600
you're working with, but verse sixteen
it says, and for her sake,
992
01:22:41.680 --> 01:22:46.399
he dealt well with Abram, and
he had sheep ox and blah blah blah.
993
01:22:46.560 --> 01:22:54.439
The sv doesn't make this real clear. The way this could be translated,
994
01:22:54.439 --> 01:22:58.560
and probably should be translated, is
Pharaoh gave him all this stuff.
995
01:23:00.920 --> 01:23:06.199
Okay, Now, Abram already was
wealthy, right, He already had his
996
01:23:06.279 --> 01:23:14.439
own flock of animals, and he
had a lot, and he had herdsman,
997
01:23:14.880 --> 01:23:17.319
and he had servants. It said
that, you know, earlier tells
998
01:23:17.399 --> 01:23:21.600
us that all the people that God
gave him went with him. So he
999
01:23:21.760 --> 01:23:29.560
gave him a lot of folks already
journeying with him on this journey. Sidebar
1000
01:23:31.520 --> 01:23:34.479
not really having anything to do with
the story, but just Middle Eastern culture,
1001
01:23:34.600 --> 01:23:41.920
something to keep in mind. Okay, we'll stop there. So here's
1002
01:23:41.960 --> 01:23:49.479
what we need to remind ourselves.
This whole series started because of an article
1003
01:23:49.720 --> 01:23:53.600
and the sort of the Lord newspaper
from May the twenty second, twenty twenty
1004
01:23:53.600 --> 01:23:58.520
four. The articles entitled leaning Wrong, and it's based off lean not onto
1005
01:23:58.560 --> 01:24:04.359
thine own understanding from Proverbs three to
five. It gives us seven examples of
1006
01:24:04.399 --> 01:24:11.319
people supposedly leaning in the wrong direction. The example number one is Abram leaned
1007
01:24:11.359 --> 01:24:15.319
towards Egypt and unbelief and soon found
himself crippled by it Genesis twelve ten through
1008
01:24:15.319 --> 01:24:21.039
twenty. I spent over an hour
working through that and challenging that entire presupposition
1009
01:24:21.279 --> 01:24:26.920
that the way that you're judging Abram. So I told everyone that what you're
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going to do this week is you're
going to go through all seven of these
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examples. You're going to read these
scriptures five times. Right, I've given
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you the scriptures I gave them at
the beginning. Here, I'm not going
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to go through them again, read
them five times, and then start looking
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up random sermons on the sermon's two
point oh app and see how they cover
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it. I told you from the
beginning that I felt that because what I
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do. What I'm doing here is
I just chose a random sermon on the
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sermon's two point oh app Right.
This one is called greater God. I
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think Genesis twelve, ten through twenty. And I told you that my prediction,
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my feeling was this was going to
go in the very same direction that
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most sermons go. Abram was wrong. Abram was wrong, And I said
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I was going to challenge that presupposition
because I believe that is at place and
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presupposing and placing the things upon the
text that the text do not support.
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I think it's bad exegesis. I
think it's bad hermineutics. I think it's
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bad. But remember the goal here
is I'm not criticizing the one preaching this.
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This is nothing about criticizing to the
person. I'm glad they put their
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sermon out. I'm glad they give
a different perspective because this allows me to
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take my hypotheses, place it next
to their sermon, and then you,
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the listener, get to hear two
radically different approaches to the same text.
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You benefit from it. I benefit
because it challenges my approach to the text.
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I don't think he did anything textually
to art to prove my hypotheses as
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being wrong, and I don't think
he did a lot textually to establish his
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hypotheses. So I still stand by
mine, but I'm more than willing to
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admit that I'm wrong, but I
feel that this is what you're going to
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find as you go through these sermons, or at least not the one,
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the one for Genesis twelve. I
think whatever sermon you choose, it's going
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to take the exact same approach that
Abram did something wrong. Abram did something
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wrong, and I'm challenging that.
And you already said, but what I
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loved about this sermon is he goes
later on it says, see, but
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what Abraham did, it's you can't
judge him. He can't be wrong.
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There was no prohibition against it,
and there was no prohibition to go against
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it, to go to Egypt,
there was no prohibition against lying. Then
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all the things you're condemning him for
there is no prohibition against. And again,
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I am going to state this over
and over. What blows my mind
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about this story? And I still
think that this is the key to the
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story. God intervene, initiates and
intervenes in Genesis twelve one and speaks directly
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to Abram. He initiates a conversation
and intervenes and Genesis twelve to seven and
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speaks directly to to not to Pharaoh. Can we state that again God initiates
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and intervenes, specifically, speaking to
Abram and Genesis twelve one, He initiates
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a conversation and intervenes and speaks directly
to Abram and Genesis twelve seven of famine
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happens. God goes absolutely silent,
He just goes incognito. He just disappears.
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He just gone right. Abram makes
a decision. We judged that decision
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on the basis of no actual prohibition. But that's okay, we still do
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that. We throw him under the
bus. Then Abram comes up with this
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great idea with Sarah to try to
come up with this scheme to save himself.
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Whatever you want to think about that, he does it. And then
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guess what. God then shows back
up, going after Pharaoh, not after
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Abram, goes after Pharaoh. Abram
comes out of the situation, fed,
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provided for and amassing more wealth.
God never condemns him, never speaks against
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Abram in any way, shape or
form. Now, if God could intervene
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in twelve one, he could intervene
in twelve seven, and then he intervenes
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again verse seventeen. So he intervenes
in twelve one, twelve seven, and
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twelve seventeen. He just doesn't bother
to intervene at all. When Abram decides
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to go to Egypt. He doesn't
intervene when Abram's making the decision to tell
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the lie about Sarah. And he
doesn't intervene after all of this to rebuke,
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condemn, or correct Abram. Now
you are left to decide how you
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interpret that. How do you interpret
God's silence in this entire matter, God's
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absence, his lack of intervention and
lack of initiating anything. You have to
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interpret that. Now we've gone eighty
nine minutes. Now again, if you
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want to find that sermon, look
for Greater God Genesis twelve ten through twenty
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pastor Matt Zodro z O d r
W. Yes, I'm reading that right,
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Zodro, and you can listen to
the rest. You probably will have
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to fast forward. Maybe it looks
like we have about twenty five minutes left
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in the sermon. I think I
don't. I don't. I don't know
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if I'm gonna I don't think I'm
gonna do a part too, because we
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we've already got a pretty basic idea
of how he handled it, and he
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provided us that great example of the
relativism and the really contradictory way in which
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we apply prohibition and condemnation to the
people in Exodus and and or and Genesis,
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and the and the excuses we make
for them. We take him in
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the cases laws revealed an Exodus,
apply them to the people in Genesis.
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But some cases we excuse behavior because
we're like, well, there was no
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prohibition against it. And then sometimes
we condemn them even though there was no
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prohibition against it, meaning who were
basically being very relativistic and our approach to
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morality and the Book of Genesis that
should cause us to pause. All right,
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that took a lot of work.
I can't wait to hear from you
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news I f at yahoo dot com. News I f at yahoo dot com.
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That's news. I fit yeahoo dot
com. If you listen to a
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sermon on Genesis twelve ten through twenty
today, please send me you know the
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name of the sermon or a link
and tell me give me, give me
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your summary. Did it have a
different approach? Was there something you If
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you think there's something like wow,
you got to hear this part, give
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me the time stamp and a link, and then we may just review that
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part of it. I don't think
I'm going to continue to I think we've
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established the basic We were able to
kind of establish my hypotheses again, so
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I think we kind of accomplished what
we wanted to accomplish. I hate not
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finishing one out here, that motorcycle
in the background. I think we kind
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of established that. I think we
did a pretty good job with that.
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So what we will hopefully do is
the next time we will move to the
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second example lot leaning towards sodom and
compromise and lost all he had gained Genesis
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thirteen ten and Genesis nineteen seventeen.
We will cover that, and then of
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course your job will be to find
random sermons on Genesis thirteen ten or Genesis
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nineteen seventeen. That's the goal.
So we're trying to we're trying to continue
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our sermons two point oh app sermon
challenge. We're trying to then turn this
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into kind of a mini series,
and then you know, we give some
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specific text of scripture to look at, so hopefully you will do that.
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Now, it sounds like the kids
in the neighborhood have their motorcycle out right,
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they go around the block, then
they come down the little side alley
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between my house and the neighbor's house. Boom. Then they go to the
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alley in the back, they go
back down to the front of the of
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the neighborhood, and they come back
and do around the block. So yeah,
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and it gets loud. I'm glad
they I I am glad they have
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fun. I just you know,
they just don't seem to care that I
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have a broadcast studio right here.
But now I'm glad they have fun.
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I want to go out there and
hey, let me on the motorcycle.
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Let me go do that. Come
on, it looks fun, all right,
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But I digress. You have lots
of work to do. I guess
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you have a lot of things to
work on, So get to work.
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What are you doing? Go go
get to work, all right, accomplish
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all of your assignments. It's Thursday. I didn't really say you have to
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have them done by the end of
this week, so so you have time.
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But get busy, all right,
Stop being lazy. All right,
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Thanks for listening everyone, have great
day. You can email me news i
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F at yahoo dot com. News
I F at yahoo dot com. God
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bless Hm.
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Looking at our world from a theological
perspective. This is the Theology Central podcast
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making Theology Central. Good morning everyone. It is Thursday, July the eleventh,
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twenty twenty four. It is currently
nine forty three am Central Time,
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and I am coming to you live
from the Theology Central studio located right here
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in Abilene, Texas. I hope
you're having a wonderful day. I hope
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you're ready to put on those that
those well, if I'm speaking to multiple
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people, I hope all of you
are willing to put on your thinking cap.
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Is that better? I want everyone
to put on their thinking cap this
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morning, because we're going to be
digging in. We're going to be digging
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into a very well known passage of
scripture, and we are going to challenge
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the way it is typically presented and
preached. And whenever I do that,
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I find myself usually in the middle
of some form of controversy. It is
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amazing. I look, I don't
understand why that for passage after passage after
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passage of scripture, it's almost like
a template has been handed down, right,
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Someone's like handed down to template,
like this is how you preach this
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passage of scripture? And you can
go from sermon to sermon to sermon to
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sermon to sermon, like, well, they got the memo, they got
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the memo, they got the memo. They're using the template. And sometimes
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I like to come along and go
no, no, no, no,
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no, no no, let's challenge
this. Let's question this, because I
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don't think this template is actually handling
the text in an accurate way. In
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fact, I think it's presupposing and
placing things on the text and in the
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text that aren't actually there. And
we see this happen continually with Old Testament
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narratives. Right, people just read
into these narratives things that I'm like,
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where, why are we reading it
from this perspective? But to challenge it,
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well, people, you'll get some
pushback. People will get very irritated
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with you. It's almost like,
I don't know, they get very defensive.
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Maybe that's a better word. They
get defensive and they're like no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no no, this is
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the way it must be understood.
Like, well, I don't know,
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maybe maybe we can at least consider
that our approach to the text has been
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incorrect. Maybe possibly, so hopefully
you will at least allow me to present
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maybe a different way to look at
a very well known text of scripture,
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and hopefully we will all benefit from
it. Now, here's what we are
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doing. If for some reason you
have missed everything. I have in front
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of me. The May twenty second, twenty twenty four issue of the Sort
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of the Lord newspaper. Right,
May twenty second, twenty twenty four.
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I got a brand new issue of
the Lord newspaper in the middle yesterday.
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Okay, but this is the May
twenty second, And I was looking at
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the May twenty second, twenty twenty
four issue a couple of days ago,
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and I made it to page ten
of this issue of the Sword of the
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Lord newspaper. And there's a section
called the Preacher's Column. And I always
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like to look at the Preacher's column
because a lot of times it gives you
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maybe an outline or an illustration or
something that you could utilize or build maybe
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an entire message upon or a devotional
message. You could do something with it,
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maybe a Bible study. It gives
you kind of the maybe the basic
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concept, and then you could build
upon it. So I was looking the
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first one state, or the first
one is entitled are Christians Heartless? And
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I'm like, okay, maybe I
could do something with that. Maybe I
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don't know, we'll see. And
then I looked down and then the very
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next thing was leaning wrong. Leaning
wrong. Now, at first I thought
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it said learning wrong, and I'm
like, I thought it was going to
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be like something about how Christians look
the wrong way. And I'm like,
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ooh, that could be. That
would be right up my alley. I'd
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like to correct how Christians learn.
Okay, but it's leaning wrong, and
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I'm like, oh, okay,
that's interesting. And then right underneath that
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is Proverbs chapter three, verse five
that don't quote the entire verse. They
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quote this part lean not onto thine
own understanding, don't lean to your own
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understanding. And I'm like, oh, okay, this this could be interesting.
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It's in Proverbs. This was supposed
to be the Summer of Proverbs summer,
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the Proverbs summer of twenty twenty four
was going to be about Proverbs,
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and we did do a lot of
work in Proverbs. And then the next
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thing, you know, Summer twenty
twenty four is really turned into the summer
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of Psaw eighty three. So we
won't get into that entire story. That's
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been crazy, right, and we
have more developments about psaw Maty three,
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but we won't get into that right
now. So I was like, Okay,
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lean not onto thine own understand that's
that's a very well known verse.
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And then underneath that, they have
this, if we have any leaning toward
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anything, we are sure to fall
to the thing towards which we lean.
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If we have any leaning towards anything, we are sure to fall to the
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thing towards which we lean. Now
immediately I kind of challenge that, right
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because I'm like, well, I
don't. That's again placing the issue external
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outside of us. If I lean
towards that, then I'm going to fall.
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And my argument is, I'm leaning
towards certain things because of the fallen
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nature that is in me. My
fall in nature is what causes me to
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lean towards certain things. It's not
the thing that I'm leaning towards. It's
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not its fault. The fault is
inside of me. See, I lean
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in certain ways because I'm fallen inside. My leaning is evidence of my fallen
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nature, my sinful nature that is
inside of you. Whether you are a
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believer or an unbeliever, I know
Christians like to act like the fallen nature
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is gone and has been eradicated.
I don't know why that's I know Christians
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try to say that's not the case. Christians do this maddening things. I
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was listening listening to a sermon yesterday
that I wanted to just start screaming.
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It was based on the Book of
James and the pastor literally like within three
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minutes, basically said these like wildly
contradictory ideas. In Christ you are a
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new creature, the old is gone. Everything is new. You have been
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set free from bondage. You have
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You're no longer in bondage to sin. And then literally like thirty seconds later.
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But as Christians, we continue to
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wait a minute, if I'm set
free and I'm a new creature and the
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old is gone, what am I
fighting? What am I still struggling with?
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If I've been said for it?
Like, it's weird how Christians state
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this and they don't hear themselves contradict
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I would argue, if we have
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leaning that way because of the fallenness
inside of us. That's the way I
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would state it, I am fallen
inside. I have a sinful nature,
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and that sinful nature wants things,
and it desires things, and it's full
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of lust and coveteousness and adultery and
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That is what we are in our
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we can try to cover it up, we can try to pretend it's
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not there, and it manifests itself
when I start leaning this way or that
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way. So that was my first
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hate to say it. I'm not
saying that this is the author of this
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article would even claim this, but
it almost felt a little Pelagian to me,
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a little bit of Pelagianism, or
at least semi Pelagianism. And I
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reject Pelagianism outright, semi Pelagianism.
I reject outright, completely opposed to Pelagianism.
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I loathe it. I can't stand. I don't think it's an accurate
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understanding of human nature in any way, shape or form, and I think
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all Christians should reject it, all
right. So, and we've done plenty
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of study on discussions of Pelagianism.
I think I did what the eighteen points
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of Pelagianism. So we've covered that
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then after the article does that,
it gives us seven, count them seven
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examples of people leaning in the wrong
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all right, and it reads,
Abraham leaned towards Egypt in unbelief and soon
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found him self crippled by it.
Abraham leaned towards Egypt in unbelief and soon
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found himself crippled by it. And
we spent over an hour yesterday covering that
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one. So let me just remind
you it gives you seven. Those seven
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are Abraham and him leaning towards Egypt, found in Genesis twelve ten through twenty.
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Second, it mentions Lot, who
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Genesis nineteen seventeen. Number three David
leaning towards unholy desire and laziness. Second
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Samuel eleven two through four. Number
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First Kings twenty two twenty nine through
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Saul leaned towards his own inclination.
First Samuel fifteen ten through twenty three.
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Number six, Hezekiah leaned towards pride, Isaiah thirty nine, and number seven
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Peter leaned towards self sufficiency Luke twenty
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through fifty seven. Now, your
goal was what my not necessarily your goal,
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my assignment for you. My goal
for you was for you to write
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all of those scriptures down and read
them five times and then start finding random
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sermons on each one of those sections
of scripture. Right, That's what you
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were called to do. That's what
I challenged you to do. Now,
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yesterday we covered number one, and
I really really disagreed a lot with this
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assumption. The assumption is that when
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through twenty that Abraham was doing something
wrong, he was demonstrating unbelief, he
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was doing something that was ungodly,
a lack of faith, and there's all
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kinds of criticism is heaped upon him. And I challenged that based off a
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number of things that based on where
this story occurs, what is not stated
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in the story. I think there's
just a lot of things pastors impose upon
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that text that's not based on anything
we have in scripture. There's nothing in
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scripture that condemns him going to Egypt. There there's no record of even God
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saying, hey, what you did
was wrong. There's no record, there's
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nothing. There was no scripture prohibiting
him from doing that. There was nothing.
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And yet the story is always handled
as a like, Abraham did something
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wrong. So I told so,
we covered that, I challenged it,
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spent over an hour. Well today
today is all about choosing a random sermon
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on that one number one Abraham leaned
towards Egypt and unbelieved, and I chose
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a random sermon, the very first
one I found. I think it's called
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Greater God, Genesis twelve ten through
twenty. It's the first. I just
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went to the sermons two point oh
app did a search for Genesis twelve ten,
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and this is the first thing that
showed up. That's simple. So
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I remember, this all goes to
our sermons two point oh app Sermon Challenge.
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So hopefully you're still participating in that. And so this fits perfectly because
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you're supposed to be choosing random sermons. I've given you. Now I want
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you to choose random sermons on these
sections of scripture. Make sure random.
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Don't look for your favorite broadcaster,
don't look for a particular kind of church.
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Just search for the scripture. And
what you get is what you get.
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And you don't throw a fit.
Well you can throw a fit,
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but yeah, you hear different perspectives, different broadcasters, and you never know
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what's going to happen. So I've
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one. The only thing I know
about the message we're about to hear is
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that the volume is insanely loud.
It's almost at times distorted, So I'm
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going to have to pull the volume
back on my end, So be patient.
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If it's a little too loud,
and then I go maybe a little
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too low, I'm going to be
messing with it, kind of trying to
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figure out exactly where to have it. So be patient. But here we
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go. Are you ready? Genesis
twelve ten through twenty. That's thirteen minutes
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of getting you all on the same
page, all right. I sometimes I
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don't like doing that much of a
review, But if I don't do that
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review, then kind of just jumping
in, you lose the context, and
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all of that context is essential.
So what I'm basically telling you and my
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introduction is we're going to be listening
to a sermon on Genesis twelve through twenty.
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My expectation is it's going to go
after Abram or his name wasn't Abraham
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at the time Abram. They're going
to go after him basically claiming that what
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he did demonstrated a lack of faith
or a lack of that of unbelief,
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et cetera, et cetera, et
cetera. And I've already challenged that presupposition.
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So there's a high probability that what
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to go that direction, and I'm
going to be challenging it. That's what
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I that's my expectation. That is
what I'm predicting. If I'm wrong,
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great, but either way, this
is how you benefit from this. The
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goal here is not just to critical, like if I go if I disagree
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with everything they say, that has
nothing to do with me attacking them or
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thinking I'm smarter than them. It's
just I have a different perspective. So
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here's the Oh, A lot of
times people listen miss this right. They
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think it's just me trying to find
a sermon to be critical. No,
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that's why I don't listen to them
in advance, because then nobody can accuse
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me of just finding something I'm being
critical of. I'm just listening to a
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sermon following the very assignment I gave
you. I'm following. Now I may
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have a different perspective. That doesn't
mean I'm being mean or think that I'm
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better. I'm just gonna put forth
my perspective. You, the listener,
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you benefit by hearing two different perspectives
in one episode. So you walk away
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go, well, here was the
theology Central perspective, Here was the perspective
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of the sermon. Well, I
think that Theology Central podcast. I think
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they're idiots. That's the they don't
know what they're talking about. Wait,
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I disagree with that other pastor.
I think that they don't know what they're
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talking about. You get the opportunity. I think that that's great. That's
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awesome, and it also demonstrates,
sadly, it's very frustrating that no matter
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what text you look at, the
one thing you can always be certain of
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is that Christians will not agree on
how to interpret it. That's madening.
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All right, are you ready?
Here we go? No book's open,
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pencils in hand, have something to
drink, have a snack, get a
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bible, Tell your kids, hey, it's sermon review time, and then
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watch them go, ah, I'm
run out of the house, okay,
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which I don't know why they wouldn't
want to listen to a sermon review,
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but here we go. Henry Father, thank you for bringing us together again.
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Please clear a mind of the distractions
from the road, from what we
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have on our schedule, from life's
worries, riches and pleasures, from the
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trouble that is going on, from
the way our hearts may be troubled over
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things. Okay, now you know
you know my feelings about open prayer,
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about opening prayers in sermons and concluding
prayers in sermons. I've stated it before
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so many times. I get bothered
by opening prayers and closing prayers because I
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don't believe in most cases the pastor
is actually praying. It's almost like he's
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just getting a head start on his
sermon, or he's repeating what he's already
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preached. And when you're supposed to
be talking to God, you don't need
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to be preaching to him. But
in this particular case, he seems to
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actually be praying. You're not necessarily
trying to preach a sermon. At least
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I don't think he is at this
point. But what I'm always curious about
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in prayers, especially in churches before
sermons, either one that bothers me is
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the prayers where they basically say,
God, you know, show us,
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teach us, give us understanding.
Well, that drives me insane because if
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God is teaching, guiding and giving
us understanding, or as some preachers state
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and misc and I think misapply a
scripture, lead us into all truth,
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I don't think that has anything to
do with us. That was leading the
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original writers of the New Testament into
all truth, that that was a prayer
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for them, not for us.
Because if God is leading us into all
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truth, ladies and gentlemen, I
don't know, there wouldn't be thousands of
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denominations, and there wouldn't be one
hundreds of thousands of non millions of different
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interpretation of every single verse in the
entire Bible, no agreement on anything.
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Two thousand years later. We can't
agree on baptism, we can't agree on
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the Lord's Supper, we can't agree
on the structure of the church, I
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agree on anything. So clearly God
is not leading us into all truth.
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He's not teaching us, he's not
guiding us, or we would all arrive
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at the same location, at the
same destination. So either God can't lead,
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or we keep praying for something that
God is not going to do.
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Our job is to take the Bible
and figure it out. God is not
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the one guiding and leading because and
the minute you say God is the one
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guiding and leading your understanding of scripture, you're basically claiming your understanding comes directly
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from God, so you can never
be challenged on it. So that's that
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already creates almost a magisterial authority for
yourself. That's that's that's frightening, and
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that's basically a return to Catholicism.
So no, we have to study the
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Bible. So I have when I
hear these prayers. That kind of prayer
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always bothers me because I'm just like
no, or when pastors like somehow in
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their prayer or they tell the congregation, God gave me this sermon. Well,
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that's crazy because now I can't criticize
the sermon it came directly from Okay,
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that's problematic. Now in this one, he's asking God to remove all
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distractions Now, I would love to
believe that a pastor could pray for God
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to remove all distractions before a sermon, and every all distractions would be removed.
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But as someone who has stood behind
a pulpit for twenty three years,
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I mean twenty three years, week
after week after week, hours upon hours,
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yeah, I don't think I would
love divine intervention to stop all distractions.
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I just don't. I don't know. I don't know. You can
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ask yourself. So let's back that
up and we'll just let hear the whole
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prayer now, and I'll try not
to interrupt it. Here we go,
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he many, Father, thank you
for bringing us together again. Please clear
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a mind of the distractions from the
road, from what we have on our
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schedule, from life's worries, riches
and pleasures, from the trouble that is
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going on, from the way our
hearts may be troubled over things. Lord,
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Please take control of our minds and
our hearts and lead us now in
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and through your word for your glory. Help us to understand, as we
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look at Abraham and his story,
how you work, how you're in control,
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and how we can react differently than
what is natural, what is no
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it's hard for me not. It's
hard for me not to hear that he's
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starting to preach a sermon, he's
giving a preview to the sermon. And
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God take over our minds. I
mean that would that Would that not be
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the greatest? Would that not be
awesome? If God just took over your
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mind today? He just took over
your mind. God's controlling your brain.
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He's controlling every thought. Because think
of how much of you you are is
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controlled by your mind. If God
was to take over your mind, well,
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every thought would be right, every
thought would be pure, everything,
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every decision would be perfect. If
God was to take over I mean sometimes
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these prayers, I just I just
so baffled by the praying. Sometimes God
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is really going to take over our
minds, ladies and gentlemen, we would
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there would be the Christianity would be
the most unified religion in the history of
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religion. We would have one interpretation
because we would all think the same thing.
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Would it be great? If God
just good, just take over our
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minds two thousand years of church history. Has God ever taken over our minds?
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And if I say God has taken
over my mind, then you could
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not question or challenge anything that I
gave you because God has taken over.
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If I say I have been praying
for God to take over my mind and
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as of yesterday he has done it, well, guess what. Back off,
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You can't challenge anything I say.
You can't challenge any conclusion, because
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God has taken over my mind.
Like I don't even know. Like,
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at one hand, it's one thing
to pray for it, but if you're
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praying for it, you obviously are
believing God can do that. The minute
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you think God has taken over your
mind, I don't know what that leads
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to. The Consequences of that seem
pretty frightening to me, right But Okay,
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so he's kind of starting to give
the preview. And again this is
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why opening prayers and closing prayers.
Ah, if I'm the pastor and I'm
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praying, it's supposed to be me
communicating with God. When I get to
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the pulpit. What do I need
to communicate with God at that moment?
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What do I need to communicate with
God with? Like I should have already
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prayed for my sermon. And at
that point, if I'm saying God,
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because pastors will say God, let
me, you basically take control and let
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me only say what is pleasing to
you. Well, how does that work?
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Because you have a Presbyterian praying that, you have a Baptist praying that,
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and they will preach a sermon on
baptism giving completely different philological conclusions.
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God, if God is controlling what
we're saying, he would have stopped one
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of them because they both can't be
right. You'll have someone who's a you
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know, a someone who olds to
reform theology, maybe an Augustinian view,
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a Calvinistic view, as someone who's
a have an Armenian view, and guess
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what, God, They'll say,
God control my lips, let me only
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say what is pleased. Well,
that's two completely contradictory systems. So does
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God. I don't Sometimes I think
in church we use we use language without
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thinking of what we're actually saying.
I would love for God to take over
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my mind. Man, that would
be awesome. Can you imagine that?
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Ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to
the Theology Central podcast. This podcast is
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hosted by an individual whom God has
taken over his mind, meaning everything you
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were about to hear in this podcast
it comes directly from God, comes from
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a mind that is controlled by God. Therefore what I say is infallible,
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It is an errant. It is
true, and you cannot challenge and you
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cannot question it. Can you imagine
if I did a podcast like that,
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people would lose their minds. But
yet we pray like that, God control
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what I say. Control well,
the consequences of that would be better than
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the pope. We can act in
faith. Please lead us now in Jesus.
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Amen. All right, Genesis chapter
twelve. I'm gonna read for you
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verses ten through the end of the
chapter, and just you can tell that
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it's kind of distorting a little bit, So I have the volume turn I
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keep going, like, turn it
down, go back up. So I
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apologize if if it's all over the
place. But we're gonna we're gonna just
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try to now let him just get
far into this. I'm gonna try.
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I'm gonna try not to interrupt or
say anything. Who am I kiddy.
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Let's just see what happens. Now. There was a famine in the land,
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so Abram went down to Egypt to
sojourn there, for the famine was
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severe in the land. When he
was about to enter Egypt, he said
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to Sarah, his wife, I
know that you are a beautiful woman,
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beautiful in appearance, and when the
Egyptians see you, they will say this
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is his wife. Then they will
kill me, because they will let you
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live. But they will let you
live, say you are my sister,
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that it may go well with me
because of you, and that my wife
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may be spared for your sake.
When Abram entered Egypt, the Egyptians saw
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that the woman was very beautiful,
and when the princes of Pharaoh saw her,
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they pray to Pharaoh, and the
woman was taken into Pharaoh's house.
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And for her sake, he dealt
well with Abram, and he had sheep,
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oxen, male donkeys, male servants, female servants, female donkeys,
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and camels. But the lord afflicted
Pharaoh and his house with great plagues because
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of Sarah, Abram's wife. So
Pharaoh called Abraham and said, what is
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this? What is this you have
done to me? Why did you not
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tell me that she was your wife? Why did you say she is my
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sister so that I took her from
my wife? Now, then here is
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your wife, Take her and go. And Pharaoh gave men orders concerning him,
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and they sent him away with his
wife and all that he had all
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right, So think about Genesis chapter
twelve. Here a lot happens, A
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lot happens, and again, for
time's sake, the way Moses writes this,
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he writes this in such a way
that everything is just a matter of
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fact. He doesn't really make much
commentary. He just gives us the plain
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truth of the story. And so
the story in Genesis chapter twelve, this
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starts out well with great promises.
I hate that, not even that's nothing
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about the sermon yet, but it's
just about from a preaching perspective, I
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hate when I'm preaching or teaching and
I have to cough or something because I
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almost inevitably forget to mute my mic. You're wearing a lapel mic, so
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right there, you know, on
your hip, you usually have the little
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receiver there right, and you can
usually just click it over one and mute
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it. Right, you commute it, but almost inevitably you because you're thinking
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about the sermon, you don't think
of it. So then I'll cough,
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and I'll be like, oh,
oh man, what what what? Why
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didn't I mute the mic or or
at least turn my head from the mic,
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like take my hand and cover the
mic. Now, here. When
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I'm broadcasting, I can just simply
I can just simply click the little mute
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button right here. When you hear
that click, that's me muting the mic.
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But yeah, you always forget that
when I go back and if I'll
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listen to one of my messages,
I'm like, oh, man, what
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was I? Oh? That sounds
like trash. And then sometimes I'll just
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delete the message because I get really
bothered by Now I've seen most people you
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probably don't even think about that,
But from a public speaking perspective, I
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hear that. Now it's hard for
me not to go m see I that
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would have That would bother me if
I did that, But maybe it doesn't
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bother you. I don't know how
it's perceived by the people sitting in the
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pew versus the person behind the microphone. For me being behind the microphone,
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that that bothers me. But all
right, here we go Genesis twelve.
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All right, say are you glad
I interrupted for that? But see,
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I'm just if I wouldn't, I
would be a liar if I don't turn
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stop this and at least tell you
what I'm thinking, because that's why I
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would be thinking. That may be
very fleshly may be very not spiritual.
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But I'm just saying, when you've
been preaching for years and years and years
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and years and years, sometimes when
you start listening to a message, this
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is one of the negative things.
You start kind of critiquing the style,
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and and that's that's not necessarily a
good thing. Great, great promises from
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God, and if God makes a
promise, he keeps his promise. God
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promises land, he promises great nature
or descendants, and he promises blessing.
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All the families of the eyes will
be blessed through you. He says,
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Now this is very important here.
Look at exactly what God promises in Genesis
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twelve. Right, hey, Land, make a great nation and to bless
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He does not promise I will feed
you in a famine. He does not
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promise that. I think it's very
I think maybe the key to Genesis twelve,
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ten through twenty and to combat the
way most preachers handle this is look
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at exactly what is promised to Abraham
or Abram and what isn't promised. I
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think you may want to make that
list because because I think you're gonna hear
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a lot of the preachers are going
to kind of almost imply, well,
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why did Abraham go to Egypt when
there was a famine? God promised?
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But did God promise, hey,
I will feed you? And not only
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that. What is even more mind
blowing to me in this section is in
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Genesis twelve, God literally speaks to
Abram, literally interrupts and speaks directly,
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initiates the conversation twice with Abram twice
in Genesis twelve, two times. And
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then you get to Genesis twelve ten
there's a feminine land and guess who doesn't
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initiate a conversation God, God does
not say a word. Now, guess
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when God shows back up when he
then plagues Pharaoh's house. So why if
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God already initiated a conversation twice as
soon as the femine hit, why didn't
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God just step in and go who
whoa Woa? Abram? Abram? Abram,
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don't go to Egypt. Don't I
will feed you. I will provide
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for you if you did not understand
that that was implied in my promises.
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But I'm now being very specific so
that you understand why didn't God show up
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that to me? To me,
that may be the biggest question in Genesis
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twelve, God initiates two conversations.
But then here God's just like, I'm
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sorry. And when when when Abram's
coming up with this plan, Hey,
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here's hey, Sarah, tell them
you're my sister. They're gonna come take
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you. I don't know what's gonna
happen to you when they take you.
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I mean, it could go really
bad. But just know I'll be safe
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and I'll be okay. God didn't
step in and go Abram, I don't
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know what you're doing. But this
is a horrible idea. God doesn't step
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in. He doesn't step in when
he decides to go to Egypt. He
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doesn't step in when he comes up
with them. God just go silent.
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That to me is more of a
question than anything else. Now, let's
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see maybe he's going to address that. I think most of the time,
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most of the time, I don't
think people do because it makes them uncomfortable.
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But I think it's a good question
to ask. Then we after the
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great promises, we have great beginning. What does Abram do you bease God?
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It says Abram wimt Verse four.
So Abram went as the Lord had
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told him, and Lot went with
him. And it goes on and tells
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us that they went on together,
and so there was this great beginning.
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After the great promises, there was
obedience. And then two times in the
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next few verses, it said that
Abram built an altar that he worshiped.
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So you see Abram being obedient and
him bowing down before God. Now that
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makes God silence that much louder.
If Abram, whenever God does initiate a
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conversation and tell him what to do, if Abram immediately obeys, now we
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could argue is he obeying by bringing
a lot with him? Now we could
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argue this right. And trust me, you would think everyone would have an
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agreement on it. They don't.
Even in my own church. When we've
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covered this, I got some people
like, I don't think Lot did anything
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wrong. You got other people like
what what what? I don't think Abraham
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did anything wrong by bringing Lot along. I don't think he did anything wrong.
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And others would be like, what
are you talking about? Abram was
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supposed to leave everyone. He definitely
did something wrong. And you have people
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in the same church, reading the
same Bible who cannot agree. That's maddening.
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Okay, But here's whether you believe
his obedience was partial or complete or
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incomplete, whatever you believe about it. He obeyed to some level God tells
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him to leave. He leaves.
So then this makes God silence loud.
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Let me explain if every time God
initiated a conversation, Abram at least obeyed
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in part what God told him,
then all that was needed to avoid the
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entire Egyptian scandal, the entire Egypt
scandal, Abram could have. All God
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needed to say was don't go to
Egypt. Problem solved because Abram has demonstrated
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that he would obey what God told
him. God never initiates a converse,
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not one time. Why wouldn't God
step in here? Hey could have stopped
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the entire Egypt scandal, the entire
scandal that would have been all over you
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know social media. Did you hear
what Abram did? Did you hear what
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he did to his wife? This
is a piece of trash? Okay,
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that's how. But God doesn't step
in. He could have stopped it.
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I mean, obviously Pharaoh thinks Abram's
a piece of trash. Why why did
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you do this to me? Right? Pharaoh is not too happy with Abram,
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So there's at least scandal there.
I know there wasn't social media?
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Obviously, I'm joking. The point
is all of this could have been avoided
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because if every time God has spoken, Abram pretty much obeys, then why
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wouldn't God you step in here?
God's been giving him direction, but then
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when there's a famine, God's direction
stops. It's like, Oh, God's
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given me a GPS. Oh we
got a famine in the land. You're
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tapping on the screen. Whypn't to
my GPS? Oh no, my GPS
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went out. I guess I've got
to figure out what to do now.
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Now he figures out what he does
now, is that leaning to his own
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understanding? Well, you could argue
it is, But where else is he
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supposed to lean if God's and if
God's not initiating the conversation. Abram can't
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pull out his Bible into a Bible
study. He doesn't have that, So
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all he can rely on is if
God doesn't intervene, Abram's got to make
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the decision. There is no prohibition. There is no instructions between Genesis one
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and eleven not to go to Egypt, so you can't impose that being wrong.
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So what do you expect Abram to
do here? Now? The whole
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thing he does with Sarah, his
wife. We could call that into question.
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But again and that culture, he
is there some prohibition again about how
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you are to treat your wife.
Is there any instruction about how to treat
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your wife in Genesis one, two, three, four, five, six,
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seven, eight, nine, ten
eleven. You can go take from
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other scripture, because Abram would not
know what you're talking about. What a
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great response, what a great beginning, right to a man, or from
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a man who is from a completely
pagan culture. His father, Tera moon
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worshiper, was from a family that
was idolatrous. And God calls him out
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of that and says, nope,
this is what I'm going to do with
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you. You go, you listen, and he does great promise, great
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blessing, and it says even in
verse A. From there he moved on
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to the hill country on the east
of beth l and pitched his tent.
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Well. That word Bethel there that
means house of God, Beath means house
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and l is God. So Bethel
is the house of God. And so
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the idea here is that Abram's life
was surrounded with God and worship. That
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doesn't mean that's all he did.
Right, he had to work, he
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failed to function, but his life
was centered around who God was in God's
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promises. This is also this verse
here of verse eight is reminiscent of Jesus
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in John chapter one, where it
said that he pitched his tent among us.
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That's literally the words that could be
translated in John chapter one and be
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set about Jesus. And this is
what it says about Abram here Bethel.
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He went to Beth and pitched his
tent. He dwelt there. He understood
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the idea of pitching a tent is
I mean, back then it literally was
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a tent. But the idea of
pitching a tent is a temporary place of
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dwelling. You know, even though
you and I live in homes that are
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made of brick or siding and have
concrete and have all these great structures to
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them, they're temporary. Right.
We're not going to last forever. We're
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not going to live here forever,
and even our houses that are built well
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aren't going to endure forever. Right, So this idea of pitching a tents
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is the idea of that we're just
soldiers, we're just temporary here as God
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allows us to be that's interesting.
I'm not in any way disagreeing with the
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fact that to pitch a tent would
be seen as a temporary lodging place.
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And okay, but is the purpose
of this narrative is to point us to
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Christ in his incarnation? I don't
think so. Is this to remind us
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that we pitch a tent in our
our flesh and it's a temporary dwelling place,
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so we're just pilgrims. I don't
know. I don't know. I
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don't know if that. I think
this is just he pitched a literal tent
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because well, that's what he had. Now, you could argue that Abram
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as a pilgrim, as a stranger
is indicative of us, because the Bible
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does say that we're pilgrims and strangers. His whole journey may be one.
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I don't know about the pitching the
tent. Okay, but all right,
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you know, don't You can argue
if that's a decent application, if that's
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fair, if that's if that's in
accordance with the text. All right.
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I just want to see overall where
he's going to take this story. I
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have a feeling where this is going, but let's see let's just let's try
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to let it play out little more. All right, So we have great
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promises, great blessing, obedience,
worship in the House of God, and
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then we have great failure. All
right, Well, I figured that's where
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it was going. We have great
failure. So he is now accusing that
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the actions of Abram starting in Genesis
twelve ten is great failure. Now does
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that mean great sin? And what
has he failed? Now this is the
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issue. What did Abram fail at? Did he fail to obey God?
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Does he disobey God? Here?
God doesn't say don't go to Egypt?
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Is there a clear prohibition that Abram
is violating? Here there is no prohibition.
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There is no instruction that he is
violating. And even if you say
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Abram fail, why didn't God simply
intervene? He speak, He looked,
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look, look, just a few
verses before verse seven Genesis twelve seven,
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then the Lord appeared to Abram and
said, so, just a couple of
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verses before he literally appeared to Abram, all you would have to do now
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is just appear one more time to
Abram has said, please don't go to
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Egypt. I don't want you to
go to Egypt. That's against my will,
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don't do it. But he doesn't. And even after Abram goes to
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Egypt, he never does God ever
reprimand Abram. Does he ever tell Abram
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that he did wrong, does he
ever correct him, does he ever rebuke
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him? But preachers come along,
Abram was wrong on the basis of what?
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Well, on what basis are we
saying that what he did was wrong?
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Or are we just imposing that on
Abram? I find it fascinating that
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everyone wants to run to this text
and say what Abram did was wrong.
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In fact, this is called a
great and he will see how he emphasized
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it great fail your a great failure? Well, what did he fail at?
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Now we take some of these actions
and judge them according to standards,
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ideas, morality, and scripture that
comes much later, way after Abram has
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died. We can then take that
morality, those ideas, those scriptures,
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bring them back to Genesis twelve,
and then judge him. But why how
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can Abraham be judged on rules,
laws, and morality that has yet even
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been established or even stated. He's
literally having a ongoing conversation with God.
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God is the one establishing the rules
here, what rule did Abram violate great
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failure. Verse ten. Now there's
a famine in the land. Okay,
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that's something that Abram could not help. That's something he did not have control
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of, was the famine in the
land. Just as you and I do
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not have control of the economy here, we don't have control of diseases.
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You know. I think if anybody
in this room could, could you know,
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wave your own little magic wand you
would have said, let's not do
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COVID. Right, if we were
quote unquote in control, we would have
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said, let's do this. Different
gods in control and things like COVID or
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other diseases, bad things like a
famine. You know what they are.
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They're part of the curse of the
world. They're part of sin. They're
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gonna happen. Okay, so there's
a famine that out of Abram's control.
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But do you notice what happened Moses
as he writes this about Abram, talks
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about Adam's Abram's faith here right his
great beginning, he's obedient, he's worshiping.
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Now something happens disruption. Now you've
got chapter breaks in your Bible or
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not, Well, you have chapter
breaks, but you also have section breaks.
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In your Bible, and you have
headings that wasn't written originally. Okay,
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it wasn't written there, and it
doesn't say when Moses wrote this.
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He doesn't go Abram and Sarah in
Egypt. He doesn't put that above the
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section. Right, that's just to
help you and I to understand things a
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little bit better. So he goes
right on, and Abram journeyed on,
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still going toward Negeb. Now there
was a famine in the land, so
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Abraham went down to Egypt. He
makes a turn. God didn't tell him
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to go there. God didn't tell
him not to go there. So are
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we gonna so how are we gonna
go? Regulative or normative principle? Now,
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I know that's typically a principle applied
to worship in the church. But
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is it regulative or normative? It
can? Can Abram only do what God
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specifically instructs him to do or has
an example for him to follow. So
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because God did not specifically say go
to Egypt. Because God did not say
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specifically go to Egypt, therefore he's
wrong to go to Egypt. Now we
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could if we go more normative principle. Well, Abram can do anything unless
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it's specifically prohibited or specific instruction against. Well, there's clearly no instruction or
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prohibition against going to Egypt, literally
none. And God has been directing every
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single step up to this point.
Right. If God has been directing the
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steps, he appears in Genesis twelve
one, he appears in Genesis twelve seven.
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Now we get to ten, there's
a famine in the land. Now
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I don't know how quickly he goes
down to Egypt, but obviously it says
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he goes down to Egypt to dwell
there, for the famine was severe,
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So obviously it seems that maybe he
sticks around until he realizes how bad the
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famine is, and then he goes
down to Egypt. Possibly you could possibly
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read it that way, Maybe you
don't, but it sounds like the famine
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doesn't just go from no famine boom
famine to boom severe famine in like forty
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eight hours. It would have been
a prolonged period of time as the famine
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got worse and worse and worse.
Abron then decided to go down. Now
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you can sit there. We can
argue about this all day, but I
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can be emphatic and dogmatic about this. Where was God? God doesn't step
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in. So is the failure on
Abram? Or is the failure on God?
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I mean, at this point God's
been stepping in. Maybe Abram's like,
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Okay, well God's not telling me
what to do here. I've got
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I got people to take care of. We're gonna die. Now. You
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can say, well, that's a
lack of faith. What a lack of
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faith in? What where has God
told him? He don't worry about it.
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I will feed you. No,
God said from him will come a
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great nation. It doesn't say that
God was going to preserve all the people
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with him. Doesn't say God was
going to preserve his cattle or any No,
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he had to make a decision.
So is what he's doing here is
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wrong? I know we love to
say that it is. I just don't
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know how we can be so emphatic
and dogmatic that we are condemning this action.
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I just don't know. God could
have stepped in at any point and
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time. That was something he decided
to do all on his own. Maybe
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that's shocking to you now, And
and I would say with you, but
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doesn't it make sense that he would
go where their food was? Absolutely makes
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sense. You and I might make
the same decision right, and often we
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make a decision that seems to make
worldly sense that isn't for our godly good.
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Do you believe that if Abram stayed
obeying God, stayed in the place
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to worship God, that God would
not have provided for him? What are
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you basing that off of? Even
if God provided for Abram, was he
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going to provide for the people with
Abram? Maybe they would have all starved
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and died. Would that have been
the best decision? Hey, Abram,
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Well, Abram, like, look, look, guys, I know there's
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food in Egypt, but hey,
we're gonna stay here because God's going to
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provide. He's not promised me that
he's going to provide. He's not shown
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up, he's not smoke. I
know he's spoken to me twice and he's
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told me exactly where to go.
He's he's not talking right now, he's
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not intervening. But I just know
God's going to provide. Well, So
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let's say God provided fed Abraham other
people died. Is that hey it's all
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good? Though, it's all good. It's all good because because Abram did
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the right thing. Like I don't
understand are why we want to run to
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this story and throw Abram so far
under the proverbial bus. All he has
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to go by is what is in
Genesis twelve one to Genesis twelve nine.
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Genesis twelve one to twelve nine,
God literally intervenes and initiates a conversation with
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Abram twice. Now a famine and
God goes silent. But Abram's the one
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who's wrong. How dare he go
to Egypt? What a piece of trash,
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what a great fell? What?
I have a hard time with this
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perspective. I do. Look,
I've preached this perspective because this is what
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I was always taught. I was
always taught. Egypt is a picture of
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the world. And so Abram,
the man of faith, is demonstrating a
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lack of faith by turning to the
world instead of turning to God. So
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when things go bad in your life, don't turn to the world, don't
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turn to worldly wisdom. Turn to
God and God will take care of you.
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And everyone says amen. Now,
of course, everyone turns to the
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world and our worldly wisdom every single
time something goes wrong. But I digress.
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But in this particular that's the way
I've always preached this. But at
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some point you start thinking Wait a
minute, How am I imposing this like
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sin, this failure onto Abram based
of what he knows? He knows God
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has shown up twice, and he
has done exactly as God has told him
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each and every single time. Then
something bad happens and God doesn't show up.
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So what does Abram do. I
absolutely believe that God meant what he
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said when he promised him, I'm
going to give you this land, you
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and your descendants. You're gonna have
a You're gonna have many descendants, more
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than you can count, right,
and you're gonna be a blessing to everybody
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in yours. There's no promise of
feeding him, there's no promise of provision
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in the middle of a famine.
I don't know how we can just like
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from those very basic promises Abraham is
supposed or Abraham is supposed to then go
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oh wait, wait, wait,
guys, guys, guys, guys,
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based off the and you know,
he's got the promises written on the refrigerator,
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I know, not an actual refrigerator. And he's like, okay,
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guys, everyone come in right,
he's got it written on a white board
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and you know, sharpie and you
know brings everyone into the living room.
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All right, guys, look,
look, I know, I know we're
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all starving everything, there's no food, but look see these promises God gave.
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This tells me he's gonna feed us. Now, someone in the back
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and raised my hand. Are you
sure? Because I'm not seeing food or
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or feed during famine and that promise? Well, you just got to see
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us between the lines. Okay,
I got another question, Yes, yes,
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go ahead ask uh. Well,
God spoke to you the first time
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for us to leave, right,
Yes, God spoke to you a second
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time. Yes? Has God intervened
or spoken to you since then? Well?
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No, hmm, I don't know. Abram if he's been giving us
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such specific instruction and he's not giving
us instruction now, you think then we
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should just sit here until we get
further instruction. Now, you could make
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an argument there that what Abram should
have done is stayed until God spoke.
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I guess you could have could have
done. I guess you could make that
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argument. I guess you couldn't make
that argument. Maybe maybe you could present
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it that way that what Abram should
have done is called out to God and
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said I'm going to stay. But
how much does Abram know about God.
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I mean, we act like that. Abram's got you know, he's been
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walking with God for seventy five years
at this point, and he's got a
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great understanding. Didn't they all start
basically in Genesis twelve? Maybe maybe we
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could argue a little bit in chapter
eleven. I know we can get a
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whole argument in how twelve one is
written, but I just don't know.
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Let's see where he takes this.
Did the famine change that? Do circumstances
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change God's promises? They don't.
Circumstances don't change God's promises. But let
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me mention a couple of things.
Circumstances don't change God's promises, but stop
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claiming promises that have never been made
to you. That's a good one.
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And number two, circumstances don't change
God's promises, but circumstances doesn't also call
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for you to add to those promises. Right, Hey, Circumstances don't change
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God's promises, but circumstances is not
a license for you to add to those
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promises. Saying Okay, well,
God's promised these three things, but hey,
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guys, I'm gonna go ahead and
add some here. He's gonna also
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feed us he's gonna preserve us,
he's gonna keep us, and this is
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for all of us, all the
cat Well, we're not gonna lose anything.
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Well, but he didn't promise that. I know he didn't promise that.
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But circumstances allow me to add to
his promise. Circumstances don't change God's
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promises. But circumstances don't allow you
to claim promises that are not for you,
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and they don't allow you to add
to those promises. And I'm going
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to tell you that's really, really
hard. It's not hard to understand here,
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it's hard to do here. Right, Circumstances do not change God's promises.
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What God says he means, and
when God makes a promise, he
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always fulfills it. It doesn't always
look like we think it's going to look
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like, and it doesn't happen in
the time that we think it should take.
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Abram never saw the fruit of all
these promises. He never saw the
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fruit of all of these promises.
But you're telling me he should stick around.
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And because God was going he was
going to see the fruit of the
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promise to feed him during a famine. Hey, Hey, all these promises,
695
00:57:54.079 --> 00:57:58.480
Abram never actually saw the fruit of
them. But I want you to
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know it was a failure for him
to go to Egypt during a famine because
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God promised. Well, what if
he never saw the fruit of the promise
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and he would have starved to death? Like, on one hand, you're
699
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like, Abram he had promises,
he should have stayed, even though there's
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no actual promise about providing for him
during a famine. But let you say
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it's implied. But then you turn
around and say, hey, but guys,
702
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just remember all of these promises that
Abram received. He never saw the
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fruit of it. But yet he
should have stuck around to hold on to
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a promise that he meant and may
never see the fruit of. In the
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time of a famine, where if
you don't have food after a certain number
706
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of days, you die. You
do realize there's a limit to how long
707
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:43.480
you can wait without food, right, you do realize that, right,
708
00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:50.800
there's a limited amount of time you
can go without food. I mean,
709
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I mean by all means, either
you can test it if you would like,
710
00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:58.239
or you can google it. How
long can a person go without food?
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00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:01.639
There's a limit amount of time.
So it's not like you're like,
712
00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:06.840
well, I'm gonna wait for the
fruit of this promise. Okay, well,
713
00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:09.400
well we just lost a couple of
cattle. They died they didn't have
714
00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:14.800
food. Oh wait, we lost
a couple of servants they died they didn't
715
00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:17.480
have food. Or we're gonna keep
holding out. But what if one person
716
00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:25.480
dies? Do you then just say, well, that's on God. And
717
00:59:25.559 --> 00:59:31.239
what I love about this is because
to me, this sets up the inevitable
718
00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:37.400
contradiction in the world of Christianity.
On one hand, we'll look at Abram,
719
00:59:37.559 --> 00:59:40.360
he should have just trusted God.
Don't go get food, don't do
720
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anything. Trust God. But on
the other hand, hey, guys,
721
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there's been a couple of church shootings. We need to make sure we have
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people in this church armed with guns
in case someone comes in, because we
723
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trust God. But if God doesn't
show up, we're gonna put a couple
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00:59:54.599 --> 01:00:00.440
of bullets and anyone who attempts to
attack us. Hey, hey, Abram,
725
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:04.199
you're supposed to trust God. But
hey, we're gonna lock our doors.
726
01:00:04.440 --> 01:00:07.800
We're gonna have a security system.
We're gonna do this. We're gonna
727
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:09.519
do this. We're gonna do this, We're gonna do We're gonna take all
728
01:00:09.599 --> 01:00:13.239
of these percussions, and we're gonna
do all of this, and we're gonna
729
01:00:13.239 --> 01:00:15.880
make sure we have provision, and
we're gonna do this, and we're gonna
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save up for the future, and
we're gonna do this, and we're gonna
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have insurance, and we're gonna do
this, and we're gonna do this.
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And we had to wait a minute. Wait a minute, Wait a minute.
733
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Did God instruct you to remember?
He said, God never instructed him
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01:00:25.239 --> 01:00:29.960
to go to Egypt? Well,
has God ever instructed you to take this
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01:00:30.039 --> 01:00:34.119
percussion or this percussion or this percussion? Are you not leaning to your own
736
01:00:34.199 --> 01:00:37.239
understanding? Are you not demonstrating a
lack of trust in God? Just trust
737
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God He will provide. I mean, can't you use the same argument against
738
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us that you're gonna use the Abram? Are we gonna hold Abram to a
739
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standard that we're not gonna hold ourselves
to? Because I am not seeing in
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01:00:52.079 --> 01:00:55.880
these promises that Abram is like,
hey, stay right here, I will
741
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feed you and all the people with
you sure that no one dies. I
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don't see that promise anywhere, or
at least not at this point. If
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God tells you to be faithful to
him in purity, in finances, in
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01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:29.119
friendship, in love, in work, in whatever He's called you to do.
745
01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:37.760
Your circumstances do not change God's ability
to fulfill those promises. They do
746
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not change God's ability to work through
you, or work in you, or
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to provide for you. And now
your mind is going, yeah, but
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pastor now again if you're going to
take this, hey, hey, No
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01:01:55.360 --> 01:02:00.000
matter the circumstance, God will provide. Now, I'm just going to raise
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01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:02.039
some questions. You can look it
up today. Look up how many people
751
01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:06.800
starve to death every day in the
world. Every day? How many people
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die of starvation? Just look it
up? How many people die daily of
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01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:15.000
starvation? Do you want me to
look it up for you? Would you
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01:02:15.039 --> 01:02:17.119
like me to look it up for
you? Would you do you want me
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01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:20.800
to look it up. I can
look it up for you. Would do
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01:02:20.840 --> 01:02:23.480
you want me to No? Yes, No, I'm hearing different answers.
757
01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:28.119
Okay, I'm going to look it
up, all right, I'm going to
758
01:02:28.159 --> 01:02:45.199
look it up. How many people
die each day of starvation? Twenty five
759
01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:50.480
thousand people Each day, twenty five
thousand people, including more than ten thousand
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01:02:50.599 --> 01:02:53.880
children, die from hunger and related
causes. Some eight hundred and fifty four
761
01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:59.800
million people worldwide estimated to be undernourished, and high food prices may drive a
762
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No, they're one hundred million end
of poverty. Twenty five thousand people die
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every single day, every single day
of starvation, twenty five thousand, ten
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thousand children every single day. So
when you go to bed tonight, just
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remember about ten thousand children has died
of starvation. Now, whenever I point
766
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these statistics out, Christians get mad
at me and they push back and they're
767
01:03:39.719 --> 01:03:44.039
like, oh, how dare you
say so? But usually the argument,
768
01:03:44.199 --> 01:03:47.360
well, they're not Christians, so
everyone who dies of starvation is not a
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Christian because if they were a Christian, God would have provided for That's the
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01:03:51.800 --> 01:03:58.199
go to argument. But again the
argument is God will provide. God will
771
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provide. God will provide, so
just trust God. Well, then I
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01:04:01.199 --> 01:04:04.199
don't understand. The argument is,
Abram, just stay right here, God
773
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will provide for you. And hey, you out there, hey, when
774
01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:11.920
you facing circumstances, you just trust
God will provide. Well, if we're
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01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:15.000
gonna trust God to such this extent, then why do we do it?
776
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Why don't we just trust God to
provide whatever we need? Now? With
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then people say, but you've got
to do your part. Well, you're
778
01:04:21.239 --> 01:04:28.559
telling me Abram his part was not
to do anything. So which is Christians
779
01:04:28.559 --> 01:04:31.400
seem to go back and forth.
Hey, God is our rock, our
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01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:36.000
refuge, our fortress, our shield, our protector. But make sure you
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01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:40.480
own a gun. Well, I
see my rock, my fortress, my
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01:04:40.519 --> 01:04:44.320
shelter. Is he or isn't he? When is it? Hey? Hey,
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01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:47.400
we'll sing about how God will protect
us in this church, but we
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will also have armed guards. Wait, I don't get it. So when
785
01:04:53.079 --> 01:04:58.840
is he? When isn't he?
Which is it? Because I'm hearing that
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01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:05.760
Abraham did everything wrong here? I
know it is because mine does the same
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01:05:05.800 --> 01:05:12.199
thing. Yeah, but look at
the people over here and how bad they're
788
01:05:12.239 --> 01:05:18.159
struggling. Some of them have to
I'm not God. I'm not going to
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play him. I would do a
really bad job. All I can tell
790
01:05:27.480 --> 01:05:33.239
you is that God is faithful.
So we see great failure here. Famine
791
01:05:33.440 --> 01:05:39.960
made sense to go to Egypt not
the right thing to do. Again,
792
01:05:40.039 --> 01:05:43.920
the accusation is that it was the
wrong thing to do. The accusation.
793
01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:48.719
But no, nothing is provided to
demonstrate that what he's doing here is wrong.
794
01:05:48.880 --> 01:05:54.679
We just impose it. We presuppose
it and pose it onto the text.
795
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There is nothing in Genesis one,
two, three, four, five,
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six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, and twelve.
797
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One two, three, four,
five, six, seven, eight,
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and nine. This says, don't
go to Egypt. And not only
799
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that, we still have the struggle
of God appearing in one, verse one
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and verse seven. But yet when
the famine happens, God goes absolutely silent.
801
01:06:18.719 --> 01:06:24.440
But yet Abram, you're to blame. You're a failure. I just
802
01:06:24.599 --> 01:06:29.199
don't get it. I don't.
I know it preaches good that I've stated
803
01:06:29.199 --> 01:06:34.039
it so many times. Some of
the most damage to the Word of God
804
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has occurred because of preaching. More
than any other thing. Preaching takes the
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01:06:41.719 --> 01:06:46.159
text, and we have to create
sermons, and when we create sermons we
806
01:06:46.239 --> 01:06:49.559
do a lot of things to the
text that was never designed to be done
807
01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:54.199
to the text. We go to
Genesis twelve, and we've got our preaching
808
01:06:54.320 --> 01:06:58.400
is such a morality? Tell right, well, our preaching is always like
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01:06:58.480 --> 01:07:00.800
we got to tell people they can't
do this, do this, don't do
810
01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:03.239
this, feel bad about doing this, feel bad about everything is morality.
811
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Morality, morality, morality. So
we go to Genesis twelve. We are
812
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like, Okay, we got to
find something that he did wrong so that
813
01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:13.760
I can challenge to people about the
things that they do wrong, so we
814
01:07:13.800 --> 01:07:16.719
can all be challenged to do better. Because all Christianity is is moralism.
815
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So we want to throw Abram under
the bus here by just imposing onto the
816
01:07:27.719 --> 01:07:34.800
text a prohibition that doesn't exist in
the text. It wasn't where he was
817
01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:46.559
called to go. Nevertheless, he
goes down there and I don't know where
818
01:07:46.599 --> 01:07:50.599
their church is located. It sounds
like it's located right on the highway.
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And that car was loud that went
by. I don't know if you heard
820
01:07:54.280 --> 01:07:59.599
that. That was loud. Okay, so that our church is located right
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01:07:59.599 --> 01:08:01.960
next to us highway and sometimes you'll
hear me in the middle Oficarmon going what
822
01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:05.239
in the world was that, Because
it'll be some loud car that will go
823
01:08:05.280 --> 01:08:10.559
by. So I definitely understand their
pain. That's so frustrating. When that
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01:08:10.599 --> 01:08:16.119
happens. He's about to answer Egypt
and we don't know if people are already
825
01:08:16.279 --> 01:08:23.279
noticing the beauty of his wife or
not yet doesn't really tell us exactly when
826
01:08:23.319 --> 01:08:29.079
that starts to happen. But he
understands how pretty his wife was, it's
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like Tina, and he says,
you know what, They're going to want
828
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to kill me if they think that
I'm a threat, right, if if
829
01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:49.920
they think I'm your husband, they're
just going to take me out because you
830
01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:54.800
know that's not going to look good. Somebody's going to want you, want
831
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you more than I can have the
ability to protect you or protect this relationship.
832
01:08:59.800 --> 01:09:03.760
So let's lie. That's what he
says. He doesn't say that,
833
01:09:03.840 --> 01:09:09.279
but that's what he says. All
right, now are we ready for this?
834
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Here we go? Here we go
in Genesis one to chapter twelve,
835
01:09:16.960 --> 01:09:25.039
verse nine. Now here's your challenge
today. Genesis one one to Genesis twelve
836
01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:33.039
nine. Find me where there is
a prohibition, law or instruction against lying.
837
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Can we take the prohibition that God
hates lying? And all the scriptures
838
01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:48.920
about lying being wrong that are later
revealed not revealed at this time. Abram
839
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can't be looking up you know,
don't bear false witness, don't lie.
840
01:09:53.840 --> 01:09:58.880
He can't be looking in proverbs about
God hates lying lips, and nothing about
841
01:09:58.920 --> 01:10:01.560
being true. There's nothing scripture.
He's got no Bible, he's got no
842
01:10:01.600 --> 01:10:06.960
body. His interaction with God seems
very limited to what God has told him
843
01:10:06.960 --> 01:10:12.640
in Genesis twelve one and Genesis twelve
seven. Some will argue that the call
844
01:10:12.720 --> 01:10:15.359
to Abram came before twelve one and
it's kind of repeated in twelve one.
845
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We could get into that discussion,
but the discussion God initiating conversations with Abram
846
01:10:21.680 --> 01:10:26.319
have been very limited about this is
what you can and this is what you
847
01:10:26.359 --> 01:10:29.199
can't, or not. Really,
he doesn't even say what you can't do.
848
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He just says, this is what
I want you to do. There's
849
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not really any laying down any system
of morality. So Abram he's like,
850
01:10:36.960 --> 01:10:41.039
okay, guys, we got to
go to Egypt because we're gonna starve.
851
01:10:41.159 --> 01:10:44.479
So he makes a decision. God
does not intervene. Then he's like,
852
01:10:44.520 --> 01:10:46.600
okay, now we got another problem. All right, if I if we
853
01:10:46.680 --> 01:10:51.279
go in this way because Sarah,
Sarah is so beautiful, they're gonna kill
854
01:10:51.319 --> 01:10:54.920
me. And if they kill me, what does that leave for the rest
855
01:10:54.920 --> 01:10:57.279
of you? Where does that leave
Sarah? Where does that leave any the
856
01:10:57.319 --> 01:11:00.319
wret you're gonna be, You're gonna
be all in trouble. So now you
857
01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:03.520
could argue, Now you could argue
he's being selfish out of fear. You
858
01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:08.840
could argue he's trying to be strategic. We could have this debate all day,
859
01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:12.399
but he comes up with this scheme. Now I don't like the scheme.
860
01:11:12.439 --> 01:11:15.520
I think the scheme is very questionable
at best. I think the scheme
861
01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:19.840
is somewhat messed up. It puts
Sarah in the most vulnerable position. Now,
862
01:11:19.840 --> 01:11:25.239
we could argue, how are women
viewed in Genesis chapter twelve at that
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01:11:25.359 --> 01:11:30.159
point in time and human history?
Was the woman? How was the woman
864
01:11:30.279 --> 01:11:33.399
viewed as? Like? How was
she viewed? And we probably won't like
865
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the answer. She's probably not viewed
the way we would think that woman should
866
01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:43.680
be viewed today. But either way, he makes this strategic decision. Now
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01:11:43.720 --> 01:11:48.399
again I'm going to scream and emphasize
again God doesn't step in. He stepped
868
01:11:48.399 --> 01:11:50.680
in in twelve to one, he
steps in in twelve seven, and he
869
01:11:50.800 --> 01:11:54.880
just goes silent. You're like,
God, this is the time to step
870
01:11:54.920 --> 01:11:59.520
in, But he doesn't. He
doesn't step in, and he allows this
871
01:11:59.640 --> 01:12:03.399
to go down. Now again,
he just referred to this as a lie
872
01:12:03.479 --> 01:12:10.359
to deception? Is this a sin? So here's the question. Can we
873
01:12:10.560 --> 01:12:18.520
judge the people in Genesis according to
the law that is not revealed until Exodus.
874
01:12:20.920 --> 01:12:28.960
Can we judge the actions of the
people in Genesis who are living before
875
01:12:29.119 --> 01:12:32.000
the law the law has not been
revealed, that the law has not been
876
01:12:32.119 --> 01:12:36.600
articulated. Can we judge them?
Now? There are times God steps in
877
01:12:36.640 --> 01:12:41.640
and says behavior is sinful, or
this is wicked, or this is wrong.
878
01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:45.800
He seems to clearly articulate that.
Now, when God steps in and
879
01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:48.640
says it's wrong, then by all
means it's wrong because God is now imposing
880
01:12:48.920 --> 01:12:54.279
his standard, which is always his
standard at any time. But if you're
881
01:12:54.359 --> 01:12:59.079
living at this time, you don't
have direct access to God's standard. Okay,
882
01:12:59.159 --> 01:13:02.199
there's not a book you can read, there's not a law anywhere given.
883
01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:13.680
So is Abraham acting and an accordance
to what he thinks is best?
884
01:13:14.399 --> 01:13:18.199
Or is he violating a law?
But there's been no law established, So
885
01:13:18.399 --> 01:13:25.640
like, how do you judge this
action? Just as there's no prohibition against
886
01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:28.319
going to Egypt in Genesis one,
two, three, four, five,
887
01:13:28.439 --> 01:13:30.760
six, seven, eleven, Chapter
twelve, verses one through nine, there
888
01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:36.399
is also no prohibition or instruction against
lying in Genesis twelve. Are Genesis one
889
01:13:36.720 --> 01:13:43.560
all the way to Genesis's twelve ten, there is no prohibition instructions against it.
890
01:13:43.640 --> 01:13:47.079
Now, maybe you can find something
that would possibly imply it, but
891
01:13:47.199 --> 01:13:50.840
I don't know where that would be. So how to how is Abram to
892
01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:55.079
be judged? And even if you
find some scripture goes well, this would
893
01:13:55.079 --> 01:14:00.920
seem to imply that God doesn't like
it. Does Abram have just direct access
894
01:14:00.960 --> 01:14:03.680
to the text that you're quoting.
He doesn't have access to any text.
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Hey, let's come up with this
lie. Now, if you've read this
896
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before and you know the story of
Genesis, you know it's not completely a
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01:14:18.399 --> 01:14:23.880
lie. But that's how most lies
are, right, they're the skin of
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the truth. So turn with me
just a couple chapters to Genesis, chapter
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twenty, and in verse eleven,
it says Abram said, I did it
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because now this is the he's lying
again here by the way, I did
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it because I thought there is no
fear of God at all in this place,
902
01:14:58.800 --> 01:15:01.000
and they will kill me because of
my wife. Besides, she is
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indeed my sister, the daughter of
my father, though not the daughter of
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my mother, and she became my
wife. Okay, so Sarah was actually
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his half sister. And he said, well, that's weird. It kind
906
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of is weird. For us,
but back then the population pool was much
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smaller. Okay, now I love
this. Oh this is this is so
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01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:34.239
good. Okay, this is how
people deal with Genesis all the time.
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01:15:34.319 --> 01:15:38.640
If there's something that makes us uncomfortable, and there's something that we don't like,
910
01:15:38.680 --> 01:15:41.239
we said, well, well,
I know it sounds strange to us,
911
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but at that time, and then
we make all these excuses for the
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01:15:44.520 --> 01:15:46.640
behavior. Hey, I know he
married his in a sense, I guess
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half sister, but hey, hey, at that time, this would have
914
01:15:49.479 --> 01:15:53.399
been okay, wait a minute,
wait a minute. So that means we're
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not going to impose later morality onto
Abraham as far as him marrying Sarah,
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But then we are going to impose
later morality on Abram for his line.
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How do we play this game?
Hey, sometimes we look at the people
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in Genesis and we're like, they
violated this, this, this, this,
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this, But in other times,
well, they had to marry this,
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or they had to they had to
be involved in marrying a sibling because
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well that's that's their only option.
Well okay, so then so then we
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excuse the behavior. And in other
cases, so hey, he had to
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marry me. The population pool was
small, he had to marry her.
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Hey, there's a femine in the
land. Well, he should have just
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trusted God. He should have just
trusted God. That's what he should have
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done. He was wrong to go
to Egypt. God could have provided Well,
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could God provided a spouse other than
a relative? Could he? I
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mean, you see, we have
these weird standards. Like one time we
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impose this standard, in the next
minute we impose a different standard. We
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are very inconsistent in our morality,
in our standards, especially as we read
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things like Genesis. This is before
the prohibition to do such things. So
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there was no sin in it.
See, there's no prohibition against this because
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01:17:30.479 --> 01:17:35.079
there's no sin in it. But
there was a prohibition against going to Egypt.
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See, he imposed a prohibition on
Abram about going into Egypt, even
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there is no prohibition there. Then
when he talks about him marrying his half
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sister, well, hey, this
was okay because there was no prohibition against
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it. So one second, Abram's
wrong even though he's not violating a prohibition,
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and the next minute he is violating
what will be later a prohibition.
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But he's not wrong because that prohibition
doesn't exist. Well, then you can't
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judge him on any action in which
there is not a prohibition against. If
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you're going to excuse him marrying his
half sister, then you've got to excuse
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every other behavior unless that behavior has
a prohibition in the text, or God
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himself steps in and says this behavior
is wrong. And guess what God never
944
01:18:21.319 --> 01:18:26.359
does. Does God step in and
tell him that he's wrong? And what
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he does in Genesis twelve, No, he doesn't. In fact, Abram
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comes out better off, he comes
out rich. They come out fed,
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01:18:33.479 --> 01:18:41.239
provided for and rich. God does
never intervenes and reprimends or condemns what he
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01:18:41.279 --> 01:18:45.079
did. But yet that's a great
failure. Hey over here where it tells
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01:18:45.119 --> 01:18:49.439
me who he married, Hey,
that's not a failure because God's not given
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01:18:49.439 --> 01:18:53.960
a prohibition against it. But over
here it's wrong even though God's not given
951
01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:58.960
a prohibition against it. I think
sometimes, I know Christians don't like to
952
01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:04.159
admit this. Our morality sometimes very
much sounds like relativism, and we pick
953
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and choose when it's wrong and when
it's not wrong. And that's a problem.
954
01:19:08.600 --> 01:19:15.000
And I think it's a very problematic
in how we sometimes handle Genesis because
955
01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:18.880
they weren't told any different and in
the beginning. That's just kind of what
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you had to do. And so
you know this is dad's daughter and not
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mom's daughter. And so understand also
in that culture, especially where he came
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01:19:35.439 --> 01:19:41.119
from, right, he's coming from
an idolatrous place. In that place he
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01:19:41.199 --> 01:19:45.319
came from, it's very likely that
the dad's side and the mom's side didn't
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01:19:45.359 --> 01:19:50.319
even mingle, so they may not
known each other that well anyway, it
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01:19:50.399 --> 01:19:57.079
is, so now we're going to
come up with a cultural excuse. Hey,
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well, at the culture at that
time or at the culture at that
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01:20:00.560 --> 01:20:03.560
time, is it not possible that
A if the if the wife's got to
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01:20:03.600 --> 01:20:06.880
die to preserve the husband, then
that's the way it should be. Why
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01:20:06.880 --> 01:20:12.800
don't we make a cultural excuse for
that at that time and that culture.
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If there's a femine in the land
going to where there's food, that makes
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01:20:16.319 --> 01:20:23.079
sense. How come there's a cultural
explanation for a later behavior, but no
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01:20:23.239 --> 01:20:27.439
cultural explanation for his actions in genesis
to wel, I think we just make
969
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up the rules. I like this, this is, this is this is
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01:20:33.720 --> 01:20:43.000
fascinating to me how we play these
games. This half sister, but it
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was a it wasn't a half lie. It's either a liar not a lie,
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right, And he was really lying
because he wasn't trying to prove that
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01:20:49.920 --> 01:20:55.119
it was a sister. He was
trying to hide that it was his wife.
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01:20:57.479 --> 01:21:00.399
So hey, okay, we're going
to excuse this, but hey,
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01:21:00.520 --> 01:21:03.399
his lying was wrong on the basis
of what you just said. That his
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01:21:03.560 --> 01:21:06.880
marriage is not wrong because there was
no prohibition against it. Where is the
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01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:18.399
prohibition against lying? Where is the
prohibition against a half truth? Now you're
978
01:21:18.399 --> 01:21:21.880
gonna say, well that's later,
Well, there's a letter of prohibition against
979
01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:26.840
marrying like this. So if you're
going to take that past the future prohibition
980
01:21:26.920 --> 01:21:30.079
and bring it back to the text, you've got to bring all the future
981
01:21:30.079 --> 01:21:34.079
prohibitions and apply all of them to
the text. You can't just pick and
982
01:21:34.159 --> 01:21:42.720
choose, all right. So we
have this pretty woman here, this beautiful
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01:21:42.760 --> 01:21:50.119
woman Sarah, and this man Abram. Going is the wrong direction because they're
984
01:21:50.199 --> 01:21:57.800
going away from what God had told
them to do. Now I don't know
985
01:21:57.880 --> 01:22:04.079
which translation you all are working on, but here's what happens. So it
986
01:22:04.119 --> 01:22:09.840
says the princess of Pharaoh saw her. So these are people that would have
987
01:22:09.920 --> 01:22:15.880
Pharaoh's ear, people that are important
in the government also took notice how beautiful
988
01:22:15.880 --> 01:22:23.000
that Sarah was, and they said, hey, Pharaoh, look at this,
989
01:22:25.279 --> 01:22:30.079
and so he takes her into his
house with the intention of making her
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01:22:30.520 --> 01:22:36.720
his wife. Now this is why
I said, I don't know what translation
991
01:22:36.720 --> 01:22:41.600
you're working with, but verse sixteen
it says, and for her sake,
992
01:22:41.680 --> 01:22:46.399
he dealt well with Abram, and
he had sheep ox and blah blah blah.
993
01:22:46.560 --> 01:22:54.439
The sv doesn't make this real clear. The way this could be translated,
994
01:22:54.439 --> 01:22:58.560
and probably should be translated, is
Pharaoh gave him all this stuff.
995
01:23:00.920 --> 01:23:06.199
Okay, Now, Abram already was
wealthy, right, He already had his
996
01:23:06.279 --> 01:23:14.439
own flock of animals, and he
had a lot, and he had herdsman,
997
01:23:14.880 --> 01:23:17.319
and he had servants. It said
that, you know, earlier tells
998
01:23:17.399 --> 01:23:21.600
us that all the people that God
gave him went with him. So he
999
01:23:21.760 --> 01:23:29.560
gave him a lot of folks already
journeying with him on this journey. Sidebar
1000
01:23:31.520 --> 01:23:34.479
not really having anything to do with
the story, but just Middle Eastern culture,
1001
01:23:34.600 --> 01:23:41.920
something to keep in mind. Okay, we'll stop there. So here's
1002
01:23:41.960 --> 01:23:49.479
what we need to remind ourselves.
This whole series started because of an article
1003
01:23:49.720 --> 01:23:53.600
and the sort of the Lord newspaper
from May the twenty second, twenty twenty
1004
01:23:53.600 --> 01:23:58.520
four. The articles entitled leaning Wrong, and it's based off lean not onto
1005
01:23:58.560 --> 01:24:04.359
thine own understanding from Proverbs three to
five. It gives us seven examples of
1006
01:24:04.399 --> 01:24:11.319
people supposedly leaning in the wrong direction. The example number one is Abram leaned
1007
01:24:11.359 --> 01:24:15.319
towards Egypt and unbelief and soon found
himself crippled by it Genesis twelve ten through
1008
01:24:15.319 --> 01:24:21.039
twenty. I spent over an hour
working through that and challenging that entire presupposition
1009
01:24:21.279 --> 01:24:26.920
that the way that you're judging Abram. So I told everyone that what you're
1010
01:24:26.960 --> 01:24:29.800
going to do this week is you're
going to go through all seven of these
1011
01:24:29.840 --> 01:24:32.920
examples. You're going to read these
scriptures five times. Right, I've given
1012
01:24:32.960 --> 01:24:35.039
you the scriptures I gave them at
the beginning. Here, I'm not going
1013
01:24:35.079 --> 01:24:39.079
to go through them again, read
them five times, and then start looking
1014
01:24:39.159 --> 01:24:43.439
up random sermons on the sermon's two
point oh app and see how they cover
1015
01:24:43.520 --> 01:24:46.079
it. I told you from the
beginning that I felt that because what I
1016
01:24:46.159 --> 01:24:48.960
do. What I'm doing here is
I just chose a random sermon on the
1017
01:24:48.960 --> 01:24:53.800
sermon's two point oh app Right.
This one is called greater God. I
1018
01:24:53.800 --> 01:24:57.880
think Genesis twelve, ten through twenty. And I told you that my prediction,
1019
01:24:58.720 --> 01:25:00.920
my feeling was this was going to
go in the very same direction that
1020
01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:05.279
most sermons go. Abram was wrong. Abram was wrong, And I said
1021
01:25:05.359 --> 01:25:10.960
I was going to challenge that presupposition
because I believe that is at place and
1022
01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:15.800
presupposing and placing the things upon the
text that the text do not support.
1023
01:25:15.960 --> 01:25:19.720
I think it's bad exegesis. I
think it's bad hermineutics. I think it's
1024
01:25:19.720 --> 01:25:25.479
bad. But remember the goal here
is I'm not criticizing the one preaching this.
1025
01:25:25.479 --> 01:25:28.920
This is nothing about criticizing to the
person. I'm glad they put their
1026
01:25:28.920 --> 01:25:32.359
sermon out. I'm glad they give
a different perspective because this allows me to
1027
01:25:32.399 --> 01:25:38.439
take my hypotheses, place it next
to their sermon, and then you,
1028
01:25:38.560 --> 01:25:43.119
the listener, get to hear two
radically different approaches to the same text.
1029
01:25:43.640 --> 01:25:48.399
You benefit from it. I benefit
because it challenges my approach to the text.
1030
01:25:48.840 --> 01:25:54.399
I don't think he did anything textually
to art to prove my hypotheses as
1031
01:25:54.439 --> 01:25:57.640
being wrong, and I don't think
he did a lot textually to establish his
1032
01:25:57.760 --> 01:26:01.439
hypotheses. So I still stand by
mine, but I'm more than willing to
1033
01:26:01.439 --> 01:26:04.000
admit that I'm wrong, but I
feel that this is what you're going to
1034
01:26:04.039 --> 01:26:06.960
find as you go through these sermons, or at least not the one,
1035
01:26:08.800 --> 01:26:12.319
the one for Genesis twelve. I
think whatever sermon you choose, it's going
1036
01:26:12.359 --> 01:26:15.319
to take the exact same approach that
Abram did something wrong. Abram did something
1037
01:26:15.359 --> 01:26:20.119
wrong, and I'm challenging that.
And you already said, but what I
1038
01:26:20.159 --> 01:26:24.479
loved about this sermon is he goes
later on it says, see, but
1039
01:26:24.520 --> 01:26:28.039
what Abraham did, it's you can't
judge him. He can't be wrong.
1040
01:26:28.159 --> 01:26:31.279
There was no prohibition against it,
and there was no prohibition to go against
1041
01:26:31.279 --> 01:26:34.720
it, to go to Egypt,
there was no prohibition against lying. Then
1042
01:26:34.920 --> 01:26:40.640
all the things you're condemning him for
there is no prohibition against. And again,
1043
01:26:40.720 --> 01:26:45.199
I am going to state this over
and over. What blows my mind
1044
01:26:45.279 --> 01:26:47.560
about this story? And I still
think that this is the key to the
1045
01:26:47.600 --> 01:26:55.640
story. God intervene, initiates and
intervenes in Genesis twelve one and speaks directly
1046
01:26:55.680 --> 01:27:00.920
to Abram. He initiates a conversation
and intervenes and Genesis twelve to seven and
1047
01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:04.960
speaks directly to to not to Pharaoh. Can we state that again God initiates
1048
01:27:05.159 --> 01:27:12.000
and intervenes, specifically, speaking to
Abram and Genesis twelve one, He initiates
1049
01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:16.359
a conversation and intervenes and speaks directly
to Abram and Genesis twelve seven of famine
1050
01:27:16.359 --> 01:27:23.439
happens. God goes absolutely silent,
He just goes incognito. He just disappears.
1051
01:27:23.680 --> 01:27:28.159
He just gone right. Abram makes
a decision. We judged that decision
1052
01:27:28.319 --> 01:27:31.000
on the basis of no actual prohibition. But that's okay, we still do
1053
01:27:31.039 --> 01:27:34.439
that. We throw him under the
bus. Then Abram comes up with this
1054
01:27:34.520 --> 01:27:40.399
great idea with Sarah to try to
come up with this scheme to save himself.
1055
01:27:40.600 --> 01:27:43.680
Whatever you want to think about that, he does it. And then
1056
01:27:43.680 --> 01:27:49.560
guess what. God then shows back
up, going after Pharaoh, not after
1057
01:27:49.640 --> 01:27:56.960
Abram, goes after Pharaoh. Abram
comes out of the situation, fed,
1058
01:27:57.600 --> 01:28:04.680
provided for and amassing more wealth.
God never condemns him, never speaks against
1059
01:28:04.800 --> 01:28:13.520
Abram in any way, shape or
form. Now, if God could intervene
1060
01:28:13.560 --> 01:28:17.079
in twelve one, he could intervene
in twelve seven, and then he intervenes
1061
01:28:17.239 --> 01:28:24.520
again verse seventeen. So he intervenes
in twelve one, twelve seven, and
1062
01:28:24.520 --> 01:28:29.119
twelve seventeen. He just doesn't bother
to intervene at all. When Abram decides
1063
01:28:29.159 --> 01:28:32.479
to go to Egypt. He doesn't
intervene when Abram's making the decision to tell
1064
01:28:32.520 --> 01:28:38.880
the lie about Sarah. And he
doesn't intervene after all of this to rebuke,
1065
01:28:39.119 --> 01:28:51.359
condemn, or correct Abram. Now
you are left to decide how you
1066
01:28:51.399 --> 01:28:59.159
interpret that. How do you interpret
God's silence in this entire matter, God's
1067
01:28:59.279 --> 01:29:03.920
absence, his lack of intervention and
lack of initiating anything. You have to
1068
01:29:03.960 --> 01:29:15.239
interpret that. Now we've gone eighty
nine minutes. Now again, if you
1069
01:29:15.279 --> 01:29:19.560
want to find that sermon, look
for Greater God Genesis twelve ten through twenty
1070
01:29:19.800 --> 01:29:27.680
pastor Matt Zodro z O d r
W. Yes, I'm reading that right,
1071
01:29:28.079 --> 01:29:30.760
Zodro, and you can listen to
the rest. You probably will have
1072
01:29:30.840 --> 01:29:35.079
to fast forward. Maybe it looks
like we have about twenty five minutes left
1073
01:29:35.079 --> 01:29:38.199
in the sermon. I think I
don't. I don't. I don't know
1074
01:29:38.199 --> 01:29:40.920
if I'm gonna I don't think I'm
gonna do a part too, because we
1075
01:29:40.920 --> 01:29:43.720
we've already got a pretty basic idea
of how he handled it, and he
1076
01:29:43.840 --> 01:29:48.359
provided us that great example of the
relativism and the really contradictory way in which
1077
01:29:48.399 --> 01:29:56.960
we apply prohibition and condemnation to the
people in Exodus and and or and Genesis,
1078
01:29:57.039 --> 01:30:00.000
and the and the excuses we make
for them. We take him in
1079
01:30:00.079 --> 01:30:03.680
the cases laws revealed an Exodus,
apply them to the people in Genesis.
1080
01:30:03.760 --> 01:30:08.279
But some cases we excuse behavior because
we're like, well, there was no
1081
01:30:08.319 --> 01:30:11.920
prohibition against it. And then sometimes
we condemn them even though there was no
1082
01:30:11.960 --> 01:30:16.680
prohibition against it, meaning who were
basically being very relativistic and our approach to
1083
01:30:16.720 --> 01:30:24.560
morality and the Book of Genesis that
should cause us to pause. All right,
1084
01:30:25.279 --> 01:30:29.840
that took a lot of work.
I can't wait to hear from you
1085
01:30:30.479 --> 01:30:34.960
news I f at yahoo dot com. News I f at yahoo dot com.
1086
01:30:35.359 --> 01:30:40.159
That's news. I fit yeahoo dot
com. If you listen to a
1087
01:30:40.199 --> 01:30:44.520
sermon on Genesis twelve ten through twenty
today, please send me you know the
1088
01:30:44.600 --> 01:30:46.399
name of the sermon or a link
and tell me give me, give me
1089
01:30:46.439 --> 01:30:50.520
your summary. Did it have a
different approach? Was there something you If
1090
01:30:50.560 --> 01:30:54.479
you think there's something like wow,
you got to hear this part, give
1091
01:30:54.520 --> 01:30:58.159
me the time stamp and a link, and then we may just review that
1092
01:30:58.279 --> 01:31:01.199
part of it. I don't think
I'm going to continue to I think we've
1093
01:31:01.359 --> 01:31:08.039
established the basic We were able to
kind of establish my hypotheses again, so
1094
01:31:08.079 --> 01:31:10.680
I think we kind of accomplished what
we wanted to accomplish. I hate not
1095
01:31:10.760 --> 01:31:15.560
finishing one out here, that motorcycle
in the background. I think we kind
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of established that. I think we
did a pretty good job with that.
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So what we will hopefully do is
the next time we will move to the
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second example lot leaning towards sodom and
compromise and lost all he had gained Genesis
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thirteen ten and Genesis nineteen seventeen.
We will cover that, and then of
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course your job will be to find
random sermons on Genesis thirteen ten or Genesis
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nineteen seventeen. That's the goal.
So we're trying to we're trying to continue
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our sermons two point oh app sermon
challenge. We're trying to then turn this
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into kind of a mini series,
and then you know, we give some
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specific text of scripture to look at, so hopefully you will do that.
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Now, it sounds like the kids
in the neighborhood have their motorcycle out right,
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they go around the block, then
they come down the little side alley
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between my house and the neighbor's house. Boom. Then they go to the
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alley in the back, they go
back down to the front of the of
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the neighborhood, and they come back
and do around the block. So yeah,
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and it gets loud. I'm glad
they I I am glad they have
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fun. I just you know,
they just don't seem to care that I
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have a broadcast studio right here.
But now I'm glad they have fun.
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I want to go out there and
hey, let me on the motorcycle.
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Let me go do that. Come
on, it looks fun, all right,
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But I digress. You have lots
of work to do. I guess
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you have a lot of things to
work on, So get to work.
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What are you doing? Go go
get to work, all right, accomplish
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all of your assignments. It's Thursday. I didn't really say you have to
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have them done by the end of
this week, so so you have time.
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But get busy, all right,
Stop being lazy. All right,
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Thanks for listening everyone, have great
day. You can email me news i
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F at yahoo dot com. News
I F at yahoo dot com. God
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bless Hm.
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