Fake News In Church Pt 1

0:02 Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central. Good afternoon everyone. It is Sunday, August the eighteenth, twenty twenty four. It is currently five twelve pm Central Time, and I am coming to you live from the Theology Central studio located right here in Abilene, Texas, where outside it is a furnace. It is. It is horribly hot outside, it really is. It's horrible. It's horribly hot. It is hot. It is a furnace, it is a fire. It is a desert.

0:44 I don't know how you want to describe. It is miserable. It's like it's like one o three. I think. I think at the high today is going to be one oh four. I think tomorrow they're calling for like one oh eight, and then I think it's like one o five, one o six, one oh four. Like this entire week we haven't had rain and it feels like a year. Yeah, we're right in the middle of that West Texas summer where this area starts to feel like a desert. So it is hot outside, but hopefully inside, well we'll have a nice broadcast, I hope. So I don't know how was your Sunday morning? How is your Sunday morning? Was Was it good my Sunday morning? You want to know how it went? We arrived at the church. Now, the good thing is we had someone go to the church about an hour early to turn on the ac which was great because when we walked into the building it was only seventy nine degrees in the building instead of eighty nine. So that was good. So, all right, we have air. Great, the air is working. It feels much cooler in the building than it did the last time we were there. I'm like, okay, okay, that's good. All right, Let's make sure everything is ready. Let's get lights on, open doors, let's get everything ready to go. And then we realized we have a problem. We have a serious problem.

2:03 We have no water. We have no water. So at first we thought, oh, there's something wrong here, right, so, uh, Sunday school was about to start. So well, first we started calling people to say, okay, we're canceling. We're canceling. We're canceling because you know, there's no water. That means you know, nothing is going to work, right, So well, like we're not gonna be able to flush anything. We got problems here, so we canceled. We canceled, but the people who had arrived for the Sunday school hour that the agreement was, well, let's just go ahead. We can. We can make it an hour and then and then everyone can leave. So since we're already here, so we went ahead and did the first hour again. We we looked around the property. We didn't see that there was any you know, visible problem.

2:50 Uh. When we finally left after the first hour, we did see someone. I think maybe for this well, it's not really a city, the it's not really a town. I don't know what you call Ovalo, Texas, whatever it is. It's so small, there's really nothing there. Okay, but there was someone doing some work with the water. So we think maybe it was a problem in that area. That's what we're hoping. We'll have to get that checked. But the end result was we didn't get two hours of teaching. So if you've been paying attention, you saw one upload today and that was therefore four Greek words. I introduced the concept earlier this week where I talked about, hey, well today is the first day week so then last week, okay, recently and a broadcast I gave this idea that we're going to be looking at every use of therefore in the Book of Romans, right to get us back into the Book of Romans. So I'm like, okay, so let's do that. We did kind of an introduction on the podcast.

3:54 So for the first hour, we looked at the four Greek words that are translated therefore in the Book of Rome. We looked at the nuances of each Greek word. We were able to do. It went okay, it didn't go great. I mean it was you know, I mean, whenever you're doing something like that, it's very it's very academic, it's very you know, some may say very tedious, but it's required to lay down the framework that as we go through the Book of Romans, looking at every use of there for, we are going to identify. Hey, remember that Greek word. Remember we looked at this Greek word. Remember we looked at the what makes this Greek word unique? So I think we laid a good foundation. I don't you know a lot of people say, well, it wasn't very practical or it wasn't really exciting, but it was it was important to do. So we did that. So we got the first hour of teaching. I uploaded that, so then I was like, okay, that's only one hour. Now, you know, historically it should be three hours, but you know, we know the victory of Baptist Church. The church is slowly but surely, we're winding everything down, waiting for the cell of the building and then you know it's not it's not going to really exist. It's going to be gone.

5:05 So now we're down to just two hours on Sunday, which is a little you know, it's a little depressing, but you just make use of the time you have. And today though, it was only down to one hour, so which she was uh. So then I'm like, okay, so what do I do. You know, I gotta do something today. I mean, I mean that that one hour is decent, but I need to do something. So I had I have a sort of Lord paper here and I'm like, okay, well that's an interesting article. I could probably do something with that. So I set that to the side. I'm like, okay, maybe I have that ready to go. And then I got home from church and I think I was I think I was getting ready to eat and I got a notification on my iPad of one of the podcast apps that I utilize of a new podcast episode. And the new podcast episode had this title. I mean, if I can find it, here was the title. You ready, news from the Church. Fake news from the church. Now immediately it got my attention, right, fake news from the church. At first, I thought, oh, wait a minute, is this, like, is this going to be like a podcast it's discussing things going on in the church. Is it coming from a Christian perspective? A non Christian perspective? What is this? And then I realized, wait a minute, no, no, this is from a church.

6:25 All right. This is from FBC and Independence, Missouri. FBC. I'm assuming that's First Baptist Church Independence. This is the FBC Independence podcast And these are the basically the sermons from FBC Independence in Missouri. And I'm like, okay, right, that's that even makes it more interesting. So this is a sermon from a church about fake news in the church. And I'm like, okay, okay, this has my attention. One, just an interesting subject for a two. Okay. If you know anything about listening to me, you know my feelings about the term fake news. I hate the term.

7:10 I loathe it. I get sick and tired of Christians talking about fake news fake news, I'm literally like, whenever I hear it in a sermon. You've heard me do sermon reviews where someone mentions fake news, and I literally and absolutely lose my ever living mind because you know what fake news actually means. Any news you disagree with is fake news. If you're like Trump, Trump, Trump Trump, and there's a news article that's critical of Trump, fake news. If you don't like the information, fake news. That is ridiculous. Because you don't like it because you disagree with it doesn't make it fake. What's fake is your fake outrage over information that you simply don't like or it goes against your worldview. I can't stand that. So I hate the term. I hate the terminology. I hate it because it's now just used as so you can dismiss anything. Hey, here's some information that may be negative towards President Trump.

8:14 Fake news, fake news. So you don't have anything that you just don't like, you label fake news, and you can live in your own little echo chamber where you only hear what agrees with you, and you'll never be offended and life will be wonderful and great, and you'll think everyone agrees with you, because anything that disagrees with you is just fake news, So I hate the terminology. So I'm like, well, a pastor at a church did a sermon about fake news. Okay, all right, Well I'm fascinated now. Of course, as always, whenever I get ready to do or review what do I not do class, I don't listen to it first, So all I can go with is fake fake news from the church. Is he going to be actually talking about how the church spreads fake news or how the church use it, or is he going to do something biblical with it, like maybe how the church shares fake doctrine or I don't know.

9:14 I don't know which way he's going to go, but it had my attention. So I'm like, well, we got one hour of teaching today with four Greek words. That was very tedious academic. A lot of people won't like that. It probably won't get many downloads, Okay, all right, so what can I do now this afternoon? So here we are. We're going to see how far we can get. It's only like thirty something minutes, so we'll you know, I think we can probably get through it relatively quick. We'll just see how this goes I have no idea how it's going to begin, but we will see. The only thing I regret is I didn't check the volume of this, and we know time and time again when you get ready to review sermons, so many times are recorded. It's such a low volume. I have no idea why, and I have to typically go in and artificially increase the volume.

10:04 I did not run this through any software to do that, so whatever the volume is is what we're stuck with. So I apologize if the volume is too low, But are you ready to go to FBC in Independence, Missouri. I don't see this was published. When was this posted? I don't have a date here, Oh five hours ago, so this was uploaded just a couple of hours ago. So most likely this was the message from this morning, and when I got the notification this afternoon after I got home from church, that's probably it just had been uploaded, so they seem to have uploaded it relatively quick. So this is really good. So well, we'll see. I don't know if this was a sermon. I don't know. If it's a Sunday school lesson, I don't I don't there's a lot of questions. I know that we've been doing, you know, the sermon's two point oh app sermon challenge.

10:56 So I should have pulled something from the sermon's two point oh app, but well, this is what caught my attention. So this is what we're going to do. So grab a Bible. I don't know where to tell you to turn. Grab a notebook. I don't know if there's going to be any notes to take. I don't know if this is going to be good. I don't know if this is going to be bad. I don't know if I'm going to be like wow or I'm going to be like wah. Okay, I don't know. I don't know if it's going to be good or bad. But we're going to find out together. So ladies and gentlemen, here we go. Hoping your Bibles with me. If you would, you can see Romans chapter three. Romans Chapter three, Fake news, A couple of sermons on this this one today. You've got to be perfect to have God's help in your life.

11:42 You know what fake news is? Okay? WHOA that all went quick? All right? Fascinating? I choose a random one that happens to be in Romans. When we started going back to Romans today, so maybe we can put this in our series on Romans. All right, So that adds content to the series. That's good. All right. So he says fake news. You have to be perfect to have God's help in your life, right, you have to be perfect. So I guess what he's going to do. He says, there's a couple of sermons on this. I need to go back and see where this series started because I'll be fascinated to know how he introduced it. So we need to look for if we can find the first sermon in this series. But all right, so fake news. And I guess what he's doing is fake news in the church fake and he's calling it fake news. Different things churches teach or believe that he is labeling as fake all right, So this is kind of a clever way since fake news is such a known term he's taking, Well, we're gonna look at things said in the church that's not true. We're going to reference it as fake news because that's a terminology that's very much a part of popular culture. Okay, that's kind of interesting. Let's see what he does. I'm gonna back this up because he went all through that quickly let's just see what he has to say here.

13:06 Here we go, hoping your Bibles with me. If you would, you can see Romans Chapter three. Romans Chapter three, Fake News, a couple of sermons on this this one today. You've got to be perfect to have God's help in your life. You know what fake news is. It sounds great, but it's wrong. So today we're going to talk a little bit about things in the church that are. Okay. He defines fake news as something that sounds great, but it's not true. I don't know if that's the definition most people get would give a fake news, right, don't I don't think that's really Fake news is something that sounds great but is not true. Is that I'm gonna I'm gonna look up, I'm gonna I'm gonna ask Ai.

13:59 Right, I'm gonna ask Ai. How would you define it? That's a weird definition. Fake news refers to false or misleading information presented as news. This can include outright fabrications, exaggerated claims, or misinformation spread through various media channels with the intent to deceive manipulate public perception. Fake news often mimics legitimate news sources and style and format, but lacks the rigor and verification process typical of credible journalism. The term gained widespread attention during the twenty sixteen US presidential election through the phenomenon, though the phenomenon has existed in various formats for much longer.

14:45 So they refer so AI defines fake news as false or misleading information presented as news. So I think it would be for his sake, I wouldn't say it's fake news something that sounds good but it's not true. I would say fake news would be teaching. If you're gonna say fake news in the church, fake news in the church would be teaching, right, would be theology that is presented as truth yet it is false fake news. And the culture is where you give where you give false information but you disguise it as actual news, but you're disguising it as news to try to say this is credible information when it is actually fake. All right, So again, it had a technical definition everyone. I don't think anyone ever thinks about the technical definition. But for his purpose, I don't it sounds good. No, fake news doesn't have to sound good. Fake news just has to be coming across as presenting something as factual whether it's good or bad news. But it's just misleading. It's not true, all right, So we'll back that up again and now we'll let this well, now we'll let this play a little further.

15:58 Hoping your bibles a thing you would. You can see Romans Chapter three, Romans Chapter three, Fake News, a couple of sermons on this is one today. You've got to be perfect to have God's help in your life. You know what fake news is. It sounds great, but it's wrong. So today we're going to talk a little bit about things in the church that are just fake. They sound good, people mean well, people of faith and sometimes of recognition say things that just aren't true. This is interesting because he's saying that in the church. It's like people mean well, people have right motives, but and they gave you this information that sounds so good, it's just not true. So he's not describing it in a nefarious way, like, hey, these people are misleading you.

16:51 He's like, no, their motives are good, they have good intentions, but the information is fake. So if you want to kind of follow his definition, and that's okay, I kind of see fake news is just straight up lying, but okay, But let's just let's just see where he takes this. Talk a little bit about that today Romans Chapter three, keep your passage open if you would. As always, we begin with the time of prayer. So many things deserving of prayer, our church's ministry and mission of course, and our issues with the older building and what we're going to do in the future with that and our ministries here. So make that a matter of prayer. If you would.

17:34 Pray for our nation in this election year, you know that whole thing there. Pray that we would be given a gift of adulthood. You know what I mean by that, that. We can act like adults everybody and politicians included, that we would speak respectfully. And first of all, any any church dealing with building issues I apply, I feel bad for it. Like I never thought I would be in a position where, you know, twenty at twenty three, going on twenty four years, when you finally thinking, okay, the church, where the church is coming to an end, Now what do we do with the building? Like we got to sell this building. I've never been so like, let's find a way to sell this building. So they have an old building. I guess they got to figure out what to do with I apologize for that. But now now this is where I h Okay. On one hand, I applaud did you hear what he said about? You know, we pray that God would give us the gift of adulthood so that we would act like adults and not just call people names and things when it comes to the election. Look, I wish everyone would start acting like an adults, stop acting like children, calling each other names and all the ridiculousness that we see. That's why I hate politics. When I'm not involved in politics, it's complete garbage and trash. But I here's where I get so. I think there's two areas, two things church just pray for frequently that almost make me want to scream and throw things. There are two

19:07 things the church prays for frequently, and pastors do this, church members do it, and I'm just tired of hearing it. Number one is God give us understanding. God open our eyes, God show us, teach us God. It's all about like basically, how God is going to give us understanding of scripture. He's going to give us insight, He's going to help us understand. I am so sick of hearing churches pray that. And the reason I'm so sick of hearing them pray that is two thousand years of church history would clearly indicate God is not answering that prayer. Because if God gives us the insight, if he's the one teaching us, if he's the one who helps us understand, then after two thousand years, you think, at the very bare minimum, Christians could agree on baptism at the bare minimum. Christians could agree on the Lord's Supper at the bare minimum.

19:59 Christians could have on the meaning of the word repentance at the bare minimum, Christians could agree on salvation. To some extent, we can't agree on anything. Nobody agrees on how to interpret the Bible. No one agrees on which system of hermeneutict say is right or wrong. We can't agree on anything. Well, if God's giving us insight, if God's giving us understanding, if God is directing our study, well then I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, something is so has malfunctioned so bad. And the second thing that drives me crazy about Christians praying is God, in a sense help us overcome temptation and help basically help us stop sinning. Well, if God is doing that, well, then all Christians should just be sinless and be perfect. And if we're not sinless and perfect, is it because God is helping us but we're refusing the help. Or is it because God doesn't really want us to be holy? There's lots of questions there, but we pray these things and nobody ever stops to go, well, wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute. If God, I mean I saw this in you know, seminary, Bible, College, Bible Institute, well, pray, you know, pray the give understanding. Well, if we have understanding, why aren't people felling the test in Bible College and seminary. God, just give me the understanding. It's about your word, God.

21:25 You know that God leads us into all truth. No, he led the disciples who wrote the Bible in all truth. That's who he led, not us. Because if He leads us into all truth, well then guess what, ladies and gentlemen, there wouldn't be thousands of different denominations and millions of interpretations. So so those things starting great there. He's like, God, give us the gift of adulthood. Well, if God just gives us the gift of adulthood. Then all Christians should act like adults. Have you ever seen a church split? Nobody acts like an adult. So I see, all right, But let's see where else the prayer goes. Deal with issues and do so with grace, and help us to be better than we are. You know, we all struggle against temptation to sin on our dark sides and all.

22:16 Those kinds of things. For me, sometimes it's just bad habits that I picked up, well a long time ago, before I realized they were bad habits, I picked them up. And some of those things come out now and you know, way later. And so you probably have some of those two So pray that God can help you with those. I can't. All right, So I tell you there's two things that drive me crazy. God help you? So how does this work? God just helps you with your sin. God just helps you with your bad habits. He's just what now again? If God really wants to help you with your sin and help you with your struggles, then he would just remove your sinful nature and then the problem is over right, Oh sinful nature boom. There is nothing inside of me that desires sin. There's nothing in me that wants it, I would be I would be in a much more internally, I would be at a neutral I would be more neutral, right, I would not have a sinful nature, a sinful desire.

23:15 So now I know some Christians act like that's the way Christians are, but we're not. God did not remove the sinful nature. If he does not remove the sinful nature, then he's he bringing help external to the nature. Or is he helping inside against the nature? And why is he only helping when he could just eradicate the nature and we could just be perfect. Nobody can ever explain this to me, Like, let's pray for God to help me stop sinning. Okay, well, if God is helping Christians stop sinning, then there would be no sin in the life of Christians. We could be perfect. But everyone to sue, everyone says we can't be perfect. Well, if we can't be perfect, so God helps you only get to a different level of imperfection. Hey, you're going to sin, but God's going to help you with what this sin? But He's not going to help you with that sin? Or does he help you with all sin? And if he helps you with all sinouln't the best way to help just eradicate your old nature. Christians pray for God to give us insight, help us understand, lead us into truth. Well, clearly that's not happening. And clearly God, he's not eliminating the old nature. So then how do I Okay, that's not the point of the sermon. But I'm telling you, every time I hear these opening prayers to sermons, I a lot of times just shake my head and get frustrated.

24:38 I'll give you a few moments of prayer where you're seated. I'll close and we'll look at this passage together about with me? Please, okay, this is interesting. Okay, Father, we gathered this morning.

25:19 To allow you to speak. We give you this time that He might speak to us, influence us, transform us, inspire us, do all those things that you can do to bring us to be in the image of Jesus. Okay. So when you say God speak to us, is I mean what he's speaking to you outside of the Bible or speaking to you speaking to us through the Bible. I mean, Hey, we're here so that we can allow you to speak to us. We have to allow God to speak. God can't speak without my permission. And if God is speaking to us outside of the Bible. Then why do I need to come to church? I would have the God of the universe speaking directly to me.

26:12 Why do I need to listen to my pastor when God is speaking directly to me? Why do I need to open up a Bible and read and study and understand Greek and Hebrew and hermoneutics and theology and why Bible study methods? Why if God speaks, so do you mean God speak to us through your word? Now? Does God do something special? Like if I don't say God speak to me through his word, he won't speak to me through his word. Because if it's his word, isn't he speaking to me whenever I read it? I don't need to ask him to speak to me because He's already speaking to me because it's his inspired word.

26:59 We thank you this more wan Father, for this great life. We have everything. We are wealthy and fed, We have clothing and everything here. Thank you. We thank your Father for family and for your plan for us, for the ways that our lives can be enriched when we follow your plan. For your grace that you give us even when we do not. We thank you for your forgiveness, salvation, hope, of eternal life. Peace. Now, thank you Father. This morning.

27:40 We come to you knowing that we're a sinful people. We resist you. Sometimes it's out of apathy, we just don't care. We let our emotions and the feelings of the moment turn us away. Forgive us, Father, for our sin, for our apathy, for our resistance to your leadership. Sometimes are not so subtle rebellion against you. Forgive us, Father. We ask for mercy and cleansing and another chance. Help us as we lead this life, that we might honor you, that we might resist sin, that we might love.

28:25 Not in word, but indeed. We pray Father, for the willingness to give grace to others, to be gracious and kind and forgiving. As always, we pray for those who have power and authority over us, some elected, some appointed, Guide and direct them, Give them wisdom, self restraint, a willingness to serve the common good. In this election year, we pray Father for the po for the general mood of the country, for our economy, and all those things. We pray that you could bless us and guide us, that we would follow the good light.

29:12 You give us. Again the guiding thing. If God is guiding, they wouldn't all. I mean, it's one of the These are the types of prey I I guess as long as I have been a Christian, I've been grown more and more frustrated with how Christians pray. We pray for things, and then you do like you can never but you're never allowed to go. Wait a minute, this makes absolutely so he's guiding us. Say he's guiding me outside of the Bible, or is he guiding me in the Bible? Now? If he's guiding me in the Bible, do I need to pray for him to guide me? Or is the Bible the guidance he's given me? So? Is the Bible the guidance? Or is God guiding outside of the Bible.

29:53 If God is guiding outside of the Bible. If God is guiding me outside of the Bible, speaking to me outside of the Bible, then I don't need Bible. I don't need anything. I have God guiding, I have God directing, I have God showing me, I have God teaching me. Well, then I like it's so weird. And if the Bible already is doing the guiding and the directing and the teaching and the leading and the speaking, well, then I you don't. I don't need to ask God for those things. It's all. It's already right here. It would be like walking outside it's pouring down rain, and say, Lord, I pray that you bring rain. It's raining already. Why are you praying for rain when it's already raining. I'm holding my Bible, praying for God to speak and to guide and to direct and to It's right. This is it.

30:45 There's nothing more. And if there's something more, well then I don't need this. And we pray that you'd be with those first responders that serve us. Bless them Father in their efforts at ministry and making a difference in people's lives. Help them as they work to save people's lives and emergencies and crises. Protect them in their efforts. Help them to see their roles as ordained of God. Thank you, Father for placing people in our midst that want to serve us.

31:28 Help us to be servants to others as always. Father, we love you, we want to follow you, but we are weak in faith. Give us faith in Jesus name. We pray Amen. So I plan my sermons out months in advance. You know that. And so when I thought I was going to do this thing on fake news. I cringed because I knew it was going to be right in the middle of election season. And fake news is a thing, an it every day if you watch the news, you're gonna hear fake news or gonna hear somebody say fake news or something like that. It used to be called yellow journalism.

32:09 Did you know that. I didn't know that. I've heard the term, but never really knew what it was. Yellow journalism and fake news is sort of the same thing, And you know, interestingly enough, so I downloaded several articles, read quite a bit on the history of fake news in America. Turns out that fake news or yellow journalism is kind of the norm in America. I thought back in the old day that everybody told the truth and there's just something wrong with us now and George, you're laughing. Turns out that you've never been able to trust Musch of what you've read in this culture. Oh boy, here we go. Oh man, all right, now I'm gonna just start. This is where now I'm gonna have emotional breakdown. Okay, all right, I get sick and tired of this. I truly get sick and tired of this what we Everyone constantly says, well, you can't trust what you read, you can't trust what you hear, you can't trust what you see because everything is fake news. Well, then what is real? It's always weird, like everybody fake news, fake news. You can't trust it, you can't trust it.

33:19 But there's always But then they will have an opinion, they will have concepts of what they think to be true, but based off what where did you get your information? And over and over you can see how this works if you're conservative. Fox News somehow is real news. Even though they got sued for completely line about the election being stolen, They got sued for what a billion dollars. They had to pay seven hundred and something million dollars to settle the lawsuit. All right, because they completely misrepresented and gave fraugilent information. Right American Family Radio they promoted that's a Christian radio network, promoted over and over and over all these lies about the election. And they had Sidney Powell, Rudy Giuliani. They were playing clips from these saying, these people are telling the truth. And come to find out those people had now had to Now they're in trouble and they've had to fall back and say why I didn't know that this information wasn't true. So American Family Radio published false information. Did they come back and apologize. No.

34:24 But the whole time they were doing that, they were yelling that any report that came from any other news source like MSNBC or CNN was fake. So if you're conservative, Fox News or Newsmax or I don't know, Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, who knows Glenn Beck, they have the truth. Everyone else is fake. Everyone else is fake. And then if you're liberal, then you have your sources and that. I'm so tired of hearing that, because the mentality is it's not that what you can't If you can't trust anything, then you don't know what is real. So you can't formulate an opinion. You can't be dogmatic about anything. So then but the people who scream fake news are always so dogmatic, they're always so able to say that's fake and this is true based off what How do you know what is fake and what is real?

35:19 How? Because you don't And it always comes down to if it's liberal, it's fake, and if it's conservative it's true. Well that's not that's not a pursuit of truth. That is just a pursuit of ideological bias. You have a bias, and whatever agrees with your bias is true, and whatever disagrees with your bias is false. I am tired of that. We saw this fraudulent information being put forth about the situation in the Olympics with the two boxers, two female boxers. The people were accusing of things that turned out not to be true. But if you are from the conservative side, if you try to give any information about this information, here's this and fake news, fake news, it didn't matter.

36:06 You couldn't even try to argue with anyone. You couldn't even say, well, there are clearly medical situations where this could happen, it didn't matter. Fake news. Well, all the church continues to perpetuate this idea you can't trust anything. Well, if you can't trust anything, then how can you formulate an opinion about anything. It's just it's maddening. So we live in a world now where the only thing you trust is what you agree with, and you distrust anything you disagree with. That, ladies and gentlemen, we cannot function as a society that way. There is no That means reality and truth is now a subjective thing based on what you think. You think a certain way, and what agrees with your way of thinking is true, and what disagrees with your thinking is false. That, ladies and gentlemen, means truth is dead. Truth has been killed, Truth has been buried. Truth no longer exists. Everyone is doing what is right in their own eyes. Relativism rules, and we have lost the plot and Christians are promoting and perpetuating that flawed way of thinking. When you say you can't trust anything, then you need to come and prove to me where the information is fraudulent. Show me where they gave false information, and then we can wit by all means.

37:37 We'll call out whereever is proven to be false, but just because you didn't like it, just because you disagreed with it, and sometimes you'll say something is fraudulent. Where all the news is saying is here's what's being reported. We're not saying true or false. We're saying this is what's being reported, and they'll say, see, but that turned out not to be that way. They were simply reporting what was known at the time. That doesn't make it was fake news means they gave the information, and they gave further information five reports later, two days later, and clarified. That's that's one of the problems of twenty four hour news is sometimes you're breaking news and reporting what is known at the time, but we can't function in a world where you just like, I don't I don't like what you say fake fake fake fake fake fake fake. Okay, well okay, but why do you why are you so dogmatic? Well, because I've got the truth. Where did you get the truth? Well, I've got the truth from Fox News. Oh, the news agency that was sued for a billion dollars and had to pay over seven hundred million dollars because of defamation and false claims. Okay, well, I guess that's the source.

38:47 I would run to the one that was sued for a billion dollars. I mean, like, all right, let's just see where this goes. I was hoping he was getting into the theology, but it's he's got to. And of course, whenever a pastor says you can't trust anything out there, it's all fake news. Now in this case, I haven't heard anyone, but inevitably, when I hear this, insermons, you always hear the people in the congregation, it's usually the men. Amen, Amen, it's all fake news, amen, and it's like, just stop talking, please. The truth didn't sell much in colonial times, so they would enhance the truth, or they would lie to sell papers and letters and things like that, and that became a tradition of journalism in America, and no one ever cared that. Strangely enough, people knew it. Yellow journalism was a thing, and everybody knew you couldn't believe everything you read, and people just went with it because it meant at least that the news was interesting, maybe not true, but interesting, and so people were happy with that. So I was reading an article on this, and it's kind of enlightening to me. This author says fake news. News is as old as journalism. What's new is an interest in the truth.

40:07 That's new. Who knew that? So fake news is a norm? Okay, So. Okay, Well, he mentioned yellow journalism and he's saying yellow journalism is the same as fake news. Let's go through a little history here. Yellow journalism is a style of sensationalized and often exaggerated reporting that emerged in the late nineteenth century. It focuses on eye catching headlines, scandal and dramatic stories, often at the expense of accuracy or balanced reporting. The term originated during the circulation battles between and and it names some different magazines and papers here where they're fighting the yellow and yellow journalism refers to the popular comic strip the Yellow Kid, which was featured in both newspapers and became a symbolic of the sensationalist tactics used to attract readers. Yellow journalism is usually characterized by bold, exaggerated headlines, often misleading or sensational. So you have a sensational headline that may be somewhat misleading, you use scare tactics and tended to provoke an emotional response. So yellow journalism as you're like boom boom boom, Fox News alert, we're all going to die, and we're all going to be Communists, and we're going to be put in FEMA camps, and Obama's going to take your Bibles and we're all going to be Muslims. That's a form of yellow journalism.

41:31 And you hear that constantly, over and over and over and over and over. I can go through all the things that was said that was going to happen when Obama was elected, and none of it happened, all right, over and over and over and over. It's the end, all right. So a lot conservatives do that, liberals do that. I agree that bold, exaggerated headline and scare tactics, that's what sells. It emphasizes scandal, crime, and human interest stories rather than substantive news. All right, yeh news does it all go with the scandal. If it bleeds, it leads kind of concept. That's yellow journalism. It's not just I don't know if you can clearly say yellow journalism is fake news. I think yellow journalism became a very part of American journalism. I don't know if you call that fake news. But okay, a lack of research and verification resulting in inaccuracies or distortions of the truth. While you go with the sensational, you don't go with the research.

42:28 You go with the bold, exaggerated headlines, you don't do the research. Pseudoscience and dubious experts used to lend credibility to false or exaggerated claims. You bring in someone with dubious credentials. Maybe you see all this during COVID and these people act like their experts, and you could do a little research and maybe they're not as the expert as they tended to be. Though the term originated in the late eighteen hundreds, not during colonial times the eighteen hundreds, yellow journalism continues it to influence some media practices today, especially in tabloids and certain online platforms. So I think there's a distinction between yellow journalism and fake news. He almost made it sound like they're synonymous. They're not synonymous, okay, but he just acts like fake news is the norm.

43:17 Fake news is the norm? Well, no, fake news now is the term people utilize when they don't agree with something. That's the problem. Okay, being interested in the truth? Well that's a new thing. Kind of interesting, isn't it. Here's one statement. The idea of objective journalism only really came about in the early twentieth century. So journalists being honest that's a new thing and not very well practiced. And you know that. So it's but anyway, the author goes on and on and several pages down, I'm going to give you the whole story course, But interesting, how many of you have ever been on a low fat diet? Yeah, just cut fat you'll lose weight. Now, don't raise your hands. How many you have gained weight on a low fat diet.

44:15 Amazingly enough, if you've been on a low fat diet, you've probably gained weight. So I wasn't looking for that. I was just looking under these myriad of articles about fake news and yellow journalism. One example was what. The the Sugar Foundation in sugar industry did back in the early sixties. Sugar's kind of a bad deal, you know that. I was taught it was white death and those kinds of things. Well, back in the. Sixties, there was some research to support that, and some Harvard and Yale research you did their thing due diligence, and they came up with the report. Didn't make a lot of news, but it said that sugar was really the problem in America and that was the problem with diets.

44:57 People were beginning to get heavier, and there were the problem that heart problems were beginning to increase in America. And the research said that sugar may be the culprit. So a gentleman that was in charge of one of the sugar industry giants, you know, that's a problem. We need to stop people from figuring this out. So they commissioned some scientists and experts to do some studies, and they produced studies that said, well, maybe not so much, Maybe maybe sugar isn't the problem. And they had some research done and they didn't careful how the author said it. They did not falsify evidence, They just purposely misinterpreted it.

45:41 So their research proved, and I don't want to do the quotation thing, but their research proved that the problem in American diets was fat. So they said, what we need to do is make sure everybody hears this. Let's see if we can bury that sugar thing and lift up the fat thing. So for the next now forty fifty years later, we're still hearing that fat is the problem in our diet. If you just cut fat, you'll lose fat, and blah blah blah. And you and I know it isn't true, but it's still being out there, isn't it. If you want to lose weight, cut fats. That is a result not of research. That is a result of fake news from the sixties onward.

46:23 Now, wait a minute, was it fake news? Okay, my understanding that Okay, here's what I asked AI to help me out here there is evidence suggesting the sugar industry played a role in shifting the blame for heart disease and other health issues from sugar to fat. In the nineteen sixties, As he said, the Sugar Research Foundation known as the Sugar Association, funded research that downplayed the link between sugar and heart disease and instead emphasized fat as the primary dietary culprit. And twenty sixteen historical documents were uncovered showing that the Sugar Research Foundation paid Harvard scientist to publish a review of research on sugar, fat and heart disease. The scientists selectively reviewed studies that minimized the role of sugar and heart disease and highlighted the dangers of saturated fat. The review, published in the New England Journal of Medicine in nineteen sixty seven, influenced dietary guidelines for decades, promoting low fat diets while not addressing the risk associated with sugar consumption. This manipulation of research contributed to the widespread belief that fat, rather than sugar, was the main cause of heart disease, leading to a significant impact of public health and dietary recommendations. Now was that the news that did that? Or was that researchers a New England Journal of Medicine was it? I mean, do we call that fake news? Now? What you could argue is that this demonstrates how information can be manipulated and

47:54 how information can be incorrect. Now, look, that should tick everyone off that they did that. Look that that should bother you. That should bother me that. But you see where we this is the issue. Has this kind of stuff happened? Yes, this stuff has happened, probably in every industry. It's probably happened everywhere. Who knows how many times it's happened. And it should make you angry, It should make you mad. You should always want it exposed. You should want the truth to come out so that people have the truth so that they can make better decisions impacting their health, finances, whatever the issue may be. But here is what this is where my problem is. I got no problem pointing out that this has happened. My problem is this, and this is very key. All right, listen to me. This is very key. This creates a situation where then people take this, well, look what happened in the nineteen sixties with sugar. Now, because that happened. Now you can't trust anything. Well, but what that turns into now is you don't trust anything you don't like what they say. Well, my doctor or these health experts are giving this information. Well you can't trust them. You can't trust them, so I'm just going to do the opposite. Well, whoa whaa, wait a minute, just because someone said something false in the past doesn't mean now just because you don't like what they tell you, you just don't listen. See, that's where it becomes problematic. It creates such a mindset of I can't trust anything. Then

49:28 you become the arbitrator of what is true. You become the decider of what is true and what is false, and if you don't like it, you just immediately say it's false. And then you argue, well, fake news has been a part of our culture from the colonial times. Then well then who gets to determine truth? Then you do, And then this becomes this concept becomes weaponized. Every issue where you can prove that fraudulent information was given, people should be exposed, it should be pointed out out and then we should make correction. But I don't take those situations and then weaponize it. Where now well, I don't like that. I disagree with that. I'd fall fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake. And that's what that's the issue in twenty twenty four is the weaponizing of this.

50:25 And to this day, this sugar industry still says that fat in the American diet is the problem, not. Sugar, in fact is. One wag that was a representative of a candy company said that if kids would eat more candy, they would be healthier and stronger and even happier. My grandkids adhere to that, and so far they're they're good. And so I sure I get them candy all they can, but I know and my daughter knows I shouldn't do that. But I'm Grandpaul, so I can do that. But anyway, a little bit of fake news there. The reason I tell you this is because we have been lied to in a lot of ways, and we and as a culture, lie to ourselves and lie to others.

51:05 Sometimes it's not always an out and out lie. Sometimes it's just a subtle distortion, sometimes a little bit of manipulation, and sometimes it's done so as to make a point about something else. So as Christians, we're to be people of the truth who want the truth and want to hear the truth and want to tell the truth. So that's a problem, isn't it. And we bring what we do in our culture, we bring it into church. And you know that when there are trends in our culture, ways of thinking and talking and doing things, those trends come into church. And that's always the case. In the passage you're going to read the day in Romans chapter three, this is exactly what was happening. There were cultural trends.

51:49 Now, I completely agree that there are multiple times we've been lied to agree. Now, the issue is that cannot lead to you just saying, well, I'm not going to trust anything other than what I think. That's the problem. Second, I completely agree that as the as the culture thinks it comes into the church. I'm in complete agreement. My only issue is when we say you can't trust anything, that creates a major problem that creates them and what and what ultimately that turns into is I can't trust anything, which I don't agree with. That is that that'll that never allows your worldview to be challenged, and that that gets you into a very cult like way of thinking, a brainwashed way of thinking. And that's what I'm always trying to combat. And it's frustrating because so there can be a story and I'll be like, well, wait a minute, here's a problem with this, this and this, and then here's like this source and this source and this Nope, nope, fake news, fake news, fake news. Okay, well, then all right, never mind, there's there's no point in having a discussion about it. I just wish when the church brings this up, it would deal with the damaging effects because it constant.

53:00 He creates the idea you can't trust anything. Everyone in the PEU says amen. But then they're giving it opinions about this subject or this subject as if they are experts, and you're like, well, wait a minute, where did you get your information, because there's all these sources that come well, all of those other sources are wrong, they're fake news. Okay, well all. Right, but I completely agree that we've been lied to, yes, and that should bother us. I'm in agreement. I'm in agreement that what happens when the culture comes into the church. I'm in agreement. So it's not that I'm disagreeing. I'm just trying to express my frustration with the way the term is utilized and how people then weaponize it.

53:44 Cultural trends in the church that said certain people couldn't be saved. They said God loves the Jews, and they would preach that. Tilly got tired of preaching it, and they relied on this idea of and others too, so. They Okay, here, now we may have a slight disagreement. He's saying that there was a cultural trend that God loves the Jews and when it comes to who can be saved, that there was a cultural trend that came into the church. Ah. I think this was a theological trend that was present in the church because the early Church would have been Jewish. I don't know if this was the cultural trend. I think this was the theilological trend.

54:41 This was the trend of the early church because it was Jewish in nature, and when the gentile started coming in, they were like, what do we do with these people? So I think it was already I don't think this was a cultural trend that came into the church. I think this was in the church from the beginning because the church was Jewish and identity. So I don't know if that's a good example of a cultural trend coming into the church. Ah, I don't know, you can. You can tell me which Let's just see how he unpacks that. But I kind of struggle with that. When being a cultural trend. It would preach strong messages of God loving the Jews and Jewish people and people who pronounce the Jewish faith, and they would soft shehew this idea that God loved everybody because they didn't want to hear it. So they mixed truth with a falsehood. And that was a problem.

55:31 So follow along with me, if you would. In Romans chapter three, all read verses nine through twelve, and then twenty through thirty. Chapter three, Verse nine, Paul, what then are we better than they? Well, not at all, for we have already charged that both Jews and Greeks are. Okay, now here's here's a preaching sermon kind of question. All right. He spent a long time in that introduction. He spent a long time in that introduction. We had the prayer, we had kind of the moment of silence, we had his closing prayer, or we had the kind of the prayer request the moment of silence where people could pray his prayer then his introduction was fake news, fake news. They're lying to his fake news. And then he immediately goes into well what's in the culture comes into the church, and then boom he goes with there was there was a cultural idea in the church that God did not love everyone, He only loved the Jews.

56:36 What does that got to do with fake news? And was that a cultural idea? Like the introduction here, wouldn't it like I mean, if I was structuring this, wouldn't it wouldn't better to go take your bibles. Let's read Romans chapter three, starting in verse nine. Let's read it Romans chapter three, verse nine. What then, are we better than they? Not at all? For we have previously charged both jew and Greek that they are all under sin. As it is written, there is none righteous, no not one. There is no one who understands, There is no one who seeks after God. They have all turned aside. They have all together become unprofitable. There is no one who does good, no, not one. So wouldn't you, then, argue Paul, here is addressing a problem that has come into the church, And the problem that has come into the church is that God doesn't love everyone. Now how did this problem arrive in the church. Well, it arose in the church because the early church's identity was Jewish, and when the Gentiles came in, they were basically like, God doesn't love the gentiles, It's all about us. So how did he correct it that. I don't know where the fake news part attaches to this, But let's see how he's going to put this all together.

57:48 They're all under sin. As it is written, there is none righteous, not even one. There is none who understands. There is none who seeks for God. All have turned aside. Together they have become useless. There is none who does good. There is not even one. I dropped down to verse twenty eight. For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from the works of the law. Or is God the God of the Jews only? Is he not the God of the gentiles? Also, yes, of gentiles? Also, since indeed, God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith, is one.

58:33 So you can see that the issue there. Remember, Paul wrote in response to a situation, well we had. The therefore we have Romans three twenty eight. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the death of the law. There is the therefore. Now he was reading a section, then jumped to twenty eight. He jumped to the therefore the transition. Now is he going to go back to that therefore and explain what the therefore? Oh? All right, So it's just fascinating that we ended up in Romans without even trying. I think that's I find that fascinating you or you may not. It would have been better if he would have just went to Romans than I think doing all that fake news stuff. I don't know really what that benefited from. But okay, so he's saying Paul's addressing an issue. I believe he is addressing an issue that many of the churches would have addressed at this time or would have faced at this time, which was Gentiles and a Jewish church. Gentiles and a church whose identity was Jewish, Gentiles and a church where the identity of the church was Jewish. How how do you process that? What do you do? I don't know what it has to do with fake news. That would have just come You can argue from a cultural misunderstand I think it would have come from a religious theological misunderstanding, nothing with the culture, with the Old Testament, and how maybe they would have understood certain parts and missed other parts like I think they're they would have. They were looking for a promised Messiah to get rid of the enemies,

1:00:04 to restore the kingdom to Israel. It was a very Jewish mindset, a very pro Jewish, pro Israel mindset. All of Paul's epistles are in response is something already happening, So you can go back where you read what he says and figure it out. Obviously, there is a Jew and Gentile clash. Jews were what you think of Old Testament related peoples. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and all those kinds of people practiced the Jewish faith. Gentiles was everybody else in the world. So for the Jewish mindset, it was very simple. There were two groups of people in the world. There were Jews and then there was everybody else, Gentiles. And they would say this loudly. God really loved the Jews, loved them first, gave him a special calling everybody else maybe, and they would do that, and they did that from the pulpit, and it was just so hard, and even when the preachers got it right, and sometimes they did.

1:01:06 And even when they were taught the correct thing, it was so hard for the Jewish people who had gotten saved, who had grown up as Jews and received Jesus as savior, it was so hard for them to acknowledge that other people from other cultures, other colors, other music, other foods, other languages, it was almost impossible to acknowledge that God loved them as much as us. Can you imagine anyone thinking that way? So the Church has always struggled with that. They struggled because of a religious piological understanding, not from the culture, from their religious theological understanding and training. So this would be the church, if you want to use their fake news analogy. The Church taught fake news and promoted the fake news, and it had to be corrected, right, I mean, I don't the fake news introduction is I'm trying to maintain that fake news the fake news introduction, But it just seems like you could throw out the fake news introduction and the sermon would make far more sense to me. But okay, let's see if he's gonna he's got to attach it to the fake news, right, Let's see what he's going to do.

1:02:25 Here, and sometimes the church has failed. Sometimes it comes across pretty subtly, not always racist, sometimes just dumb. I remember that I told this story before because it was one of those moments in my life where I go what And I was a dumb kid, college kid in college with six hundred other preachers and thought we knew everything because well, because we just did. And it was that simple. And the preacher said in chapel one day, God cannot use anyone with sin in their life. And we all said amen, because you know, you got to get you your sin out of life.

1:03:06 You got to get perfect here before God can use you. And wow, Now I don't know what this has to do with this, Okay, I don't have any correlation in how this has to do with this problem in the church, but I completely I have heard that same thing in Bible college. God cannot use you if there is sin in your life. If there is sin in your life, God will not use you. You will never be And so you would come to the altar, you would confess everything, Okay, And so that started me down. We talked about this path of like I've got to be perfect. I gotta be perfect. I gotta be perfect, I gotta we scrupulosity. We talked about this, and so yeah, very damaging, very damaging.

1:03:49 And obviously, if God can't use anyone with sin in their life, then there's no one to use because I'm sorry, everyone has sin in their life because everyone is a sinner, all right now, But what does that have to do with Romans three and dealing with a problem about God only loving the Jews? Right right? Okay, so we have fake news, yellow journalism, the sugar Foundation. God only loves the Jews. Now. God can only use you if there's no sin in your life, all right. He seems like very separate things. There's got to be a thread that connects all of this. Let's see how he connects all of this.

1:04:31 God can't use you, and I have preached that did for some time. And then one day I ask myself, Wait, if God can't use people with sin in their lives, who's left. Well, nobody? I mean, I was I could be honest with myself sometimes and I realized that if I God couldn't use me because I had in my life, doesn't matter what it was, it was there and I knew it. And I started looking at the people that God was using some missionaries, preachers and other things, and most of them didn't claim perfection factism.

1:05:14 Most of them complained about their sin. And then Paul, at one point in Romans, said, you know, I can't do the things I want, and I do the things I don't want to do. I can't seem to get it fixed. And so the preacher had in me said, wait a minute, what that preacher said sounded really good, and I knew what he was trying to do. He was trying to emphasize righteousness and obedience to scripture. But he went too far, didn't. He That whole hyperbole thing went too far, as hyperbole does. And what he did was distort the truth because he said one thing, but it simply wasn't true, and that's how fake news starts.

1:05:59 Okay, so now he's connected this back to the fake news. But in the middle we have God only loves the Jews. So is he using this as an example of the idea of God only loving the Jews? Maybe that's how he's going to connecting this. It seems somewhat disjointed and trying to follow a logical flow of thought, But okay, let's see if this all comes together. A lot of other types of fake news things have gotten into the years into the church, and sometimes it's simple, it's simple pragmatism. Preachers will say things, or. We will come to the conclusion that this is the way it is, this is what I like, this is what I'm used to, and we readily dismiss anything else.

1:06:40 And if we go to a different church and they don't do things right, or the preacher isn't like the last preacher you've had, or something, we can't worship there. And I've had people say that they go to this church, whatever church, it is not this one, of course, but if they go somewhere else and the preacher doesn't do something just right, well I just can't worship there. The Spirit isn't working there. Some times I knew the preacher, knew he was a pretty good fella, and they were interpreting things with a narrow lens, and they were practicing fake news. They didn't say it, but it seemed as if they would almost say, God isn't working there. See how that works, Well, God's not working there if I don't like it. God can't use that kind of music. And I remember being taught that.

1:07:24 My mom hated new music. She was a piano teacher, church musician, started playing worship music when she was eleven a long time ago, so the early thirties, and she played music and she was a traditionalist, hardcore. She hated that new music. She wasn't sure God could use it. It took her about thirty years to come around. She ended up finally loving some of it, but still tended to like the old stuff. God can't use that stuff. And see, that's how things creep in becomes fake news, just based on conviction and believe in comfort. And so my mom was guilty and she was a great gown.

1:08:05 She wasn't trying to be fake news or anything. Fake news just kind of creeps into it, doesn't it. Now? Okay, now he's kind of returning to the point that I spent so much time making. See what happens with the fake news claim is if you don't like something, well then that's fake. But you're the one the one promoting fake news. But you're because you're promoting fake news because you will dismiss anything that you disagree with, so you will call the other thing fake when you're the one actually promoting the fake news. All right, but again, what does this have to do with the Romans passage? Okay, I'm trying to follow this from a like a structural stamp, But from a structural standpoint, I'm a little perplexed. I think there's some good stuff here, but I'm just trying to follow the structure of it. Okay, and we're already over an hour. Ohh, I don't want to have to do two parts to this. This is what always happens to me. Right, let's see if we can. There's no way we're going to finish, but lit'sten if we can get to a good stopping point.

1:09:06 It's conviction and emotion and all those things rolled into one without being tested against biblical teaching. Remember, the test is always biblical teaching. When again, I know we love to say that the test is always biblical teaching. No, the test is what you think the Bible says. Because everyone says that they put their belief to the biblical test, and their belief is based on the Bible. Everyone says their belief is based on the Bible. A Presbyterian will say their belief is based on the Bible. A Lutheran will say their belief is based on the Bible. Hey, charismatic will say their belief is based on the Bible. Hey, one is pentecostal, will say nit Church of Christ, you name the group.

1:09:51 They all say it. So then we always want to say the test is it agrees with biblical teaching? No, it agrees with you your interpretation of biblical teaching. So in reality we become the authority and not the text, even though we say the text is the authority. But if the text is really the authority, that we should all come to pretty close in doctrine and theology. You say something, have a conviction, it's okay to hold it, but before you say it, test it does the Bible say x? If it doesn't, then you got to be careful. Sometimes fake news tends to divide us because they are these kinds of people and those kinds of people like in the passage in Roman Jews and non Jews. Now, the problem with the gentiles in church wasn't that they didn't claim Jesus.

1:10:42 They claimed the very same Jesus. They got baptized, they got saved, they made all those commitments, they were tigers and all those things in a church. It's just they had a different background. And because they had a different background, well they ate different foods, they liked different music, they dressed differently, they were just different. And it was just so much easier to say, well, my people are God's people. And that's what they said. In regards of what the preacher said, people. See the way he's describing the problem, don't. I'm not I disagree with the way the problem is being presented.

1:11:23 He's presented the Gentiles came in and said, well, I don't want to deal with these people. God just loves the Jews. I think they already had a Jewish mindset God and the Jews first, before the Gentiles ever showed up. I think that's what made it so shocking when the Gentiles showed up. I don't think they came up with this idea after the Gentiles came up or showed up. They already had the idea before the Gentiles showed up. We're hanging on to that because old habits die hard, you know. And so Paul had to write listen, and then he wrote the passage we read for all sinners, none righteous, no, not one. So on screen are some ideas of fake news and how it can take shape.

1:12:10 Don't want to spend too. All right, we'll stop right there. He's gonna have a slide that gives us supposedly fake news. I guess he's talking about in the church. So I'm gonna go twenty fifty and we'll stop there. This is a long introduction to get to his slide. And I don't really know fake news or yellow journalism. He kind of made them synonymous. I don't think they're quite quite synonymous. I do agree that we've been lied to. Yes, he kind of creates the idea then you don't trust anything, which then creates a problem. He didn't address the He didn't really address the fact that it can be weaponized, which is my problem. Then he went to Okay, now we're in Romans three.

1:12:53 Okay. Then he reads a passage saying, Okay, so this cultural problem came into the church. But I don't think it was a culture problem came into church. It was theological problem that already existed in the church, because the church was its identity was Jewish from the very start. Okay. Then he kind of legs that. Then he goes to then he skipped to something else. Then he came back to that then he kind of went back to the fake the logical. I'm hard, I don't get I don't understand. So now he's just going to go to the slides. Well, he's not addressing how Paul. How did Paul fix the problem. If the problem was, hey, God only loves the Jew, then what was Paul trying to argue in Romans three starting in three nine by saying we're all sinners? Is that the problem Paul was trying to fix.

1:13:47 I don't. Well, until next time, I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. I am interested to see what's on these slides or hear what's on these slides, and we will do that tomorrow because I'm going to stop for today, but we'll do that sometime tomorrow. We'll start tomorrow with looking at these slides. So you better tune in tomorrow right here, not the same time, but the same channel, the Theology Central podcast, where we'll find out what these slides about fake news. I don't understand, really, I don't really understand kind of what the thesis is yet.

1:14:30 I don't really other than there's fake news in the church, and I guess the fake news is the fake news in the church, the news we produce. I don't really understand exactly how this is working. Maybe you have a better understanding of what's being said. But we'll figure it out together, and hopefully by the time the next message is over, or by the time the next review is over, we'll have a better understand I'm going to say the next message because it almost sounds like the first half was one sermon and the second half is a second sermon. But I don't really know if the first ser Yeah, but we will see, So we'll wait and see. All right, there we got I know, I kind of turned into more arguments about what fake news is and isn't, But hopefully I was able to express my frustration with the term because it's been weaponized and that's a problem. All right, Thanks for listening. Have a great Sunday night. Tomorrow we'll try I'll try to get started relatively early, hopefully, maybe earlier than normal. Maybe I don't know. I'll start when I'm ready, and then we'll just jump right in and just listen to what's on those slides and see what to do with that. I'm not going to know. Yeah, there we have it. Thanks for listening hereyone, have a great night, God bless