Nov. 5, 2024

Election Day 2024

Election Day 2024

Today is the day, let it be over soon!

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Today is the day, let it be over soon!

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective.

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This is the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central.

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This is it, ladies and gentlemen, this is it. The

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day has finally arrived, and all I can think is

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I want it to be over now. I want it

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to be I wanted it to be over thirty minutes ago.

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I want it to be over. I wanted to be finished.

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I want it to be everyone can just move on.

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My fear is that ten o'clock tonight, eleven o'clock tonight,

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It's not going to be over tomorrow. It may drag

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out for a week, two weeks. I'm hoping I'm completely wrong,

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But that's my fear. And if you don't know what

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i'm talking about within, you probably don't live in the

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United States of America or you're not listening to this live.

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If you're listening to this live, you know exactly what

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I'm talking about. Today is election day here in the

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United States of America, and I just want it to

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be over. I want it to be done. I want

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it to be finished. But my concern is it's is

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it ever going to end? Is it ever going to end?

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I don't know, but we're gonna talk about that. We're

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going to do that here in just a minute, but

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first let me say good morning everyone. It is Tuesday,

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November the fifth, twenty twenty four. It is currently nine

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forty am Central time, and I'm coming to you live

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from the Theology Central Studio. Please note Theology Central. Theology Central.

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I try to make Theology Central. So yes, Theology Central

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Studio located right here in Abilene, Texas. And the reason

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I guess I'm really stressing this is Theology Central is

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because so many times when I address the fact that

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the American Church has become so political hijacked and so

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politically corrupted, people get immediately upset and frustrated with me.

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And I'm like, well, if we think about things from

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a philological perspective, you should be just as bothered by

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the political hijacking of the American Church as I am.

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You should be just as frustrated with it and sick

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of it and irritated and discouraged and depressed and bothered.

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And I don't know what other words I can come

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up with. You get the idea. But for some reason,

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the church has completely embraced a political ideology. They've tried

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to merge it with their theology. They try to merge

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it with scripture. And you know what happens whenever you

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take your politics and you bring it into Christianity, you

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merge it with Christianity. You know what gets corrupted, not

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the politics Christianity. You know what gets lost, not the

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politics Christianity. You know what gets messed up Christianity. And

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then what you have left is no longer really Christianity.

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It's some mutated, infected monster that does not well. All

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it does is hurt Christianity. And that is what has

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happened so much here in the United States of America.

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If you are a conservative Christian, really holding to historical

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biblical truths, and you merge it with Christianity, or even

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if you don't, or if you merge it with politics,

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even and even if you don't, the world looks at

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you and like they don't see you as a follower

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of Christ. They don't they don't think of you as

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someone speaking of the of the crucified Christ who died

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and was buried in rows on the third Day and

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ascended to the right hand of the Father, coming to

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judge the living and the Dad. They don't see you

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as someone holding to Obviously, I'm referencing the Apostles creed there.

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They don't see you holding to one of these historical creeds.

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They don't see you being a follower of Christ. They

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don't they don't see you as someone who preaches salvation

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by an imputed righteousness. Know what they see you as

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is well, a Trump supporter. That's almost inevitably. Now if

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you if you, oh, you support Trump, and like, how

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in the world did Christians become associated with Donald Trump?

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How did that happen? What happened? Well, what happened is

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we have been so politically compromised. You say, well, what

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about the liberal churches. The liberal churches I've said in

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a million times, I'll say it again, most liberal churches

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who've bought into a liberal political ideology. Many of those

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churches already abandon historical Christianity. They begin to question the

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deity of Christ, the inspiration of Scripture, et cetera, et cetera,

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et cetera, right substitutionary atone and we can go on

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and on and on. So if they have already left Christianity,

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then their politics is not even the issue. It would

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be their theology. But then you look over to the

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conservative churches. They may have the right theology, but what

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is concerning is their abandonment of Christianity or their hijacking

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of Christianity. So it's election day? What do we do?

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What should I do? I'm really I'm like, I'm at

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a loss for words. I can't even say I'm at

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a loss for words because I don't even know what

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to say. I really am. I It's like, do I

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just turn on the microphone today and just act like,

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you know what, Let's just let's just ignore what's going

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on out there. Let's just dig in. We've been working

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on Isaiah forty through fifty five, let's just do that.

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We've been working on the Six Secrets of the Christian

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Let's go back to that. Let's let's let's just do this,

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or like, there's a million things I could do. But

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then at the same time, do you just ignore what

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this day is? And I mean, according to most a

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historical day that this is going to be in a

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historical election, I mean, I don't know, but we so

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I guess what we'll do is well, I don't know

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how many times I'll broadcast today. It really just depends

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on I guess what people think I should do. I

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guess it may depend on feedback because I think most

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people I don't know what your plan is. I think

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most even people who are not very political. I think

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people who don't really care because I hate politics, Even

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people who don't vote, which I don't vote, I think

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I think even they are going to have a hard

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time not keeping up with what's going on tonight.

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I think everyone's going to be glued to their what

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media of choice, listening, paying attention. So I think everyone's

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going to be talking about it. So how can we

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talk about it here? I don't know how much we will.

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I don't know who knows what this will turn into.

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I'm just going to kind of take it minute by minute.

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But here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to

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be looking more at how Christianity is thinking about it,

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how Christianity is talking about it, not so much how

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the world is, but how Christianity is. So so what

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we may do. If you have dis Sermon's two point

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oh app and you go to I think Discover and

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then go down to trending, you'll see that yesterday the

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two trending topics were America and vote in fact, let

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me look right now, haven't checked today, but I bet

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you okay, I'm going to the sermon's two point oh app.

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If I go to the sermon's two point oh app,

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I go to discover I scrolled down trending. Yes, the

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two trending things right now is America and vote. America

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and vote those are the trending things. So even on

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the sermons two point oh app, you can tell what

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everyone's talking about. They're talking about things primarily related not

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only to the United States of America, and of course

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things related to the election that is happening today. So

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I guess here's what I'm going to do. I'm going

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to focus on how Christianity is thinking about it, how

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Christianity is talking about it, and then hopefully we can

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be we can move on. Hopefully we can move on

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after that. So I think that's what I'm going to

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do today. I think the reason is I was looking

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at I think the Christian Post and there was an

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article and the author and the headline and the title

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of the article said something like I cannot vote for hypocrisy,

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therefore I'm not voting for Kamala Harris, right, And You're like,

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what so Kamala Harris is the hypocrite. You can't vote

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for hypocrisy, So you can't vote for Kamala Harris, but

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you can vote for Donald Trump because there's no hypocrisy there,

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none at all, none at all. And of course immediately

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what happened in the comments. Immediately, what happened in the

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comments most likely not even Christians the way they started responding,

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and because some of them even said you Christians, So

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EU Christians can't vote for Kamala Harris because you can't

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support hypocrisy, but you can support a man who did

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this and did this and slept with a porn star

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and tried to cover it up, and then this and

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this and did this and did this, and a man

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who said he's never had to ask for forgiveness. I mean,

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on and on, and I'm like, so what do you

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call all of that? So just again, just so many

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things that the Christian Post I think was it twenty

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four hours ago, maybe they had an article of basically

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saying that it's going to come down to evangelical support

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for Donald Trump to if he's going to win. It's

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the church is going to be the ones that will

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determine if he wins or not, and I'm like, what

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in the world is happening? So listening and looking at

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how Christians are responding to this, that's the thing that's

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just I just I don't understand. I really just don't understand.

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And I've heard all of the arguments and excuses. We

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talked about it yesterday. Now many very well known Christian

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pastors and leaders basically saying, if you don't vote for

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Donald Trump and you vote for a Democrat, you're basically

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not saved. So now your salvation is connected to who

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you vote for. Just the Christian world has lost its

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collective mind and I don't really know what to do,

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but I know this. We're going to then keep an

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eye out and how Christians is responding to this. That's

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going to be the focal point is how Christianity is.

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So if we talk, if I do multiple broadcasts today,

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I'm going to be looking at how Christians are discussing it,

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what they are saying, and I'm going to be looking

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to the Christian world, Christian media, Christian websites, sermons. That's

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what we're going to do. But we will start and

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Psalm one forty six to see here, where do we

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want to go. Let's go, Yeah, let's go to Psalm

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one forty six. Let's go Psalm one forty six. I

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think that's a good psalm. I think. I think the

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psalm for election day, the scripture for election Day twenty

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twenty four is going to be Psalm one forty six.

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You ready tell me if this works for you. Psalm

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one forty six will start in verse one. Praise ye

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the Lord. Praise the Lord, oh my soul. That's a

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good thing to do today, right, instead of yelling, screaming,

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fighting astead of praising your political party of choice, instead

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of fighting and arguing with people on social media, Praise

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ye the Lord. Praise ye the Lord, oh my soul.

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The one thing that has been such a negative thing

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that's happened within Christianity is that politics has divided so

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many Christians and divided even many churches. But you know what,

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our fellowship, what we have in common. People want to

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talk about fellowship, and they always think of eating together.

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But fellowship is the one thing that we have in

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common is supposed to be scripture in God not We

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can't allow our politics to divide us. But okay, praise

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you the Lord, Praise you the Lord, oh my soul.

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If you're voting for Donald Trump, you can praise the Lord.

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If you're voting for Kamala Harris, you can praise the Lord.

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If you are a Democrat, if you're a Republican, you

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can praise the Lord. Now I know many you're like, no, no,

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if they're voting for Kamala Harris, if they're a Democrat,

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they can't praise the Lord because they're going to hell.

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If you want to be that way, then by all means,

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go ahead. But then you don't believe salvation is found

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in Jesus Christ. You think salvation is somehow connected to

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who you vote for. But okay, verse two, So I'm

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gonna read verse one again. Praise you the Lord. Praise

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you the Lord, oh my soul. While I live, will

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I praise the Lord. I will sing praises unto my

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God while I have any being. That's where our focus

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should be. How about verse three? Here we go. Listen

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to verse three, all right, Psalm one six, Verse three, Listen,

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put not your trust in princes, nor in the son

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of Man, and whom there is no help. Put not

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your trust in princes nor in the son of man,

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and whom there is no help. His breath goeth forth.

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He returneth to his earth. That very day his thoughts perish.

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Don't put your trust in people. Don't put your trust

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and human institutions. Don't put your trust in leaders, political leaders,

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civil leaders. That's not where your trust is supposed to be.

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nor in the son of man, and whom there is

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no help, There is no true help. There, his breath

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go forth. He returneth to his earth. In that very day,

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his thoughts perish. He's he's not eternal in that sense,

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on this in this or on this planet, on this earth,

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in this life. There, he's just he's going to die.

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just going to fade. They're going to fall away. They're

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going to be gone. They're going to enter into the

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pages of history books. Put your trust in the eternal God,

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the everlasting God. Put not your trust in princes, nor

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in the son of man, and whom there is no help.

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His breath goeth forth. He returneth to his earth, and

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that very day his thoughts perish. Happy is he that

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hath the God of Jacob for his help, whose hope

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is in the Lord his God, which made heaven and earth,

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the sea, and all that and all that therein is,

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which keepeth truth forever. Now see, you can put your

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trust in princes. You're gonna put your trust in men

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who there is no help. And guess what their breath

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goeth forth, that returneth to the earth, and that very

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day their thoughts perish everything. With these people that you

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put your trust in, all these things you're going to

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focus on, it's all going to go away. Or you

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can put your hope and trust in God, who made

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the heaven and the earth, the sea, and all that

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is therein which keepeth truth forever. Or you can put

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your hope and trust and the Creator, which executeth judgment

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for the oppress, which giveth food to the hungry. The

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Lord looseth the prisoners, The Lord openeth the eyes of

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the blind. The Lord raiseth them that are bowed down.

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The Lord loved the righteous. The Lord preserveth the stranger.

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He relieveth the fatherless and widow. But the way of

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the wicked he turneth upside down. The Lord shall reign forever,

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even Thy God, O Zion unto all generations, Praise ye

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the Lord. Psalm one forty six. Read it and read it,

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and read it all day while everyone's running around yelling

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and screaming and fighting, and it's just going to be

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total chaos. Conspiracy theories, made up lies, misinformation, disinformation, it's

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gonna be absolute insanity. You go to Psalm one forty six,

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read it, read it, write it down multiple times, write

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down all ten verses, write it, rewrite it, put it somewhere,

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look at it, think about it, sing it, chant it,

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speak it. Whatever you have to do, keep Psalm one

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forty six right there, right there in front of you,

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because I think that is what we need the most today, right,

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for for the scripture for Election Day twenty twenty four.

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That's where I'm going to turn, and that's where I

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would challenge you. But as I said, what I'm going

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to do is I'm going to keep my eye and

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my ear to what's going on in the world of Christianity.

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So I went to the sermon's two point oh app,

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I went to the hashtag vote. I did a I

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pulled down for a refresh and just chose a random sermon.

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on what's going on in Christianity. So we're going to

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just start by reviewing the first random sermon that I found.

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I don't know if this is going to be good.

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know it's under the hashtag vote, so we'll see why

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they chose to put that hashtag as part of the

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data for this sermon. I don't know if it's I

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don't know if it's going to be helpful. I don't

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know if it's going to be beneficial. But one of

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the reasons we're doing this is, well, you get to

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hear different perspectives. You'll also get to hear mine because

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I'll be reviewing, critiquing, and analyzing. But we can kind

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of just see what the why is Christianity talking about

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it today? What are Christians doing? All?

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To me, the most important part of election day or

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anything dealing with politics is how it impacts the church,

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how it impacts Christianity. That's because we're looking at it

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from a theological perspective, that's what we are concerned with.

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And again I've already expressed my concern even today, like

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on the Christian Post, you can't I can't vote for hypocrisy.

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Therefore I can't vote for com Mala Harris. And even

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the lost people looking at it, it's like, wait a minute,

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let me make sure I understand this. That's the hypocrisy.

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you can vote for a man who's done this, and

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they list all of these things, the man who said

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this and all the things he said. But of course

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then Christians just make an excuse for all of it.

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it like we're so so self righteous, you can just

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be a lot more instead of trying to use your

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Christianity to justify it. Maybe you just acknowledge it your

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own personal preference and you're just using Christianity as an excuse.

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A lot of people don't like when I say that,

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but I think that's what I see over and over

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and over, because any rational person looking at it from

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a biblical perspective would be like, uh, what do I

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don't know when this sermon was public. It was at

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the very top of the list, I think, so it

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had to be maybe within the last twenty four hours,

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may even have been today. So we're just going to

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jump in. We're going to see how they're talking about it.

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We'll review until I feel like we get the basic idea,

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and then we'll stop and then maybe we'll talk. We'll

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do something else later. I don't know. I don't even

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know how many times I'm going to broadcast. I'm still

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trying to figure it out. Today. I will be paying

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a lot of attention to how things develop, and I

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just hope it's over soon. So let's listen to how

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the Christian world is talking about Election Day twenty twenty four.

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Here we go.

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Well, good morning once again. I was originally going to

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continue our study in the Book of Genesis, but my

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mind has been thoroughly engaged in this election cycle, and

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so I thought I would look deep into the scripture,

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and my mind has really been moved to give a

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sermon on voting and who we should vote for.

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All right, So here's someone whose mind has been thoroughly

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engaged almost probably very very focused on this election cycle.

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engaged in it. I don't know if you've been that

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focused on But this is interesting because he's gonna tell

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us he's been digging into the scriptures to try to

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determine who we should vote for. Okay, now when I'm

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just going, I'm going to say this, and I know

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this puts me again at odds with most of Christendom.

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You can go from Genesis to Revelation. There is no

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command for you to vote, all right, there's nothing that

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says you must vote. Christians will come after you and

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try to tell you you have a moral responsibility and

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if you don't do it, you're basically committing a sin.

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back off. There's nothing in scripture that tells me I

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have to vote. There's no clear command. There's nothing because

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they would not have known anything about the Bible, would

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not know anything about our our system and how we

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vote for sit it doesn't have anything to say about that.

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In fact, Scriptures clearly emphasizes that we are not of

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this world, that we are pilgrims, we're strangers here. Our

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citizenship is in heaven. That's our set, our affections on

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things above love, not the things of this world. I mean,

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over and over, it so much separates us. Now people say, well,

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we're supposed to be salt, we're supposed to be light,

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and then they connect that to voting. And as to

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say salt and light has anything to do with voting,

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that's just you. You can try to apply it there,

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but you cannot make it a command. You can't make

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it a moral and perative. You can't say someone has to.

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But I am curious how he's going to go to

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scripture and tell me who I should vote for? Now?

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Is it going to be this is who you should

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vote for, and if you don't, you're going against scripture

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And it'll be interesting with scripture that is shock. So

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I'm interested to see and who I should supposedly vote for.

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I won't be taking the advice because I won't be voting,

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but I do want to hear who I should have

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voted for. And if I was to vote, well, I

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would be thrown out of most of Christianity because I

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wouldn't vote, or most Christians would tell me I have

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to vote I would completely disagree with it. And I've

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already said philologically, I think the best thing that can

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happen to christiandom. This is not about America, this is

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not about the country, about Christianity and about the Church.

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I've said it, I'll say it again. The best thing

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that could happen is we wake up tomorrow November sixth,

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twenty twenty four, and there is not a Republican left

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in any political office, from city, state to the entire

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country federal. There's no one left. There's no Republican left.

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It's everyone who's been elected as a Democrat. There's no

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Republican left. And you say, why would you say such

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a crazy thing? Because in the church would have nowhere

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to look but God. The church would have to get

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back to being the church. It would have to get

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out of politics. It would stop looking to politics for

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the answer. It would have to get back to prayer

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and defasting and to preaching. It would it would have

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to put their trust not in horses and cheriots, but

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in God. There would stop being There would, as the

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Psalmus says, that would put not their trust in princes

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nor in the son of man, whom there is no

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help there would be nowhere to look but up. That

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would be the best thing for the church ever. It

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would possibly be purifying to the church to remove the

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political corruption that is entered in That would from a

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philological perspective, that would be the best thing that could

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ever happen. But he's going to look into the scriptures

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and tell us who we should vote for. All right,

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Let's see, let's see. Now he may be well, I

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have some suspicions of what he could be doing, but well,

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I don't know. But I mean I can I could

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guess here, I could speculate. But let's just see where

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this goes.

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What kind of men we should look for to put

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be put into the position of civil magistrate or the

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individual that would lead our country?

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What kind of man should be put in charge of

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our country as the civil magistrate? What kind of man?

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Now is this going to come down to? Now? Character?

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Morality of the individual? Are we going? Are we going?

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Is he going to tell me that there is a

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certain morality, a certain character that the person must have

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in order to be in charge. Is he going to

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argue that it has to be a man and not

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a woman. Oh, I'm invested here. I want to know

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where this is going to.

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Go, or our state or an elected local official. So

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for some thinkers, I believe that there is a question

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that arises in the mind that one pursues throughout their

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time on earth. The question is why did God create

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the heavens and the earth? God, being perfect in his

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character and immutable in all his ways, is also completely

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satisfied in himself. How could he not be? For he

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has nothing in himself that would cause dissatisfaction. And thus,

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if we are looking for satisfaction, it can only be

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found as we abide in Him. There is simply no

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other way. We may try to find satisfaction in our spouse,

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our children, our father, mother, our education, our vocation, our activities,

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our entertainment, and many other things. But if in pursuing

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these things our minds are not focused on Christ, we

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will never be content, We will never be satisfied, for

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only Christ can bring complete satisfaction.

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Okay, I don't know what he's hitting. I don't have

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the video. He's hitting something there, so I don't know

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what all that sound is. But okay, I'm a little

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confused here because this kind of take took a weird turn.

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So he went into the scriptures to figure out who

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we should vote for. And now basically he's going into

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kind of almost a It's almost like you're reading a

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commentary on maybe the Westminster Confession, right, what is the

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chief and demand to glorify God and to enjoy Him forever?

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Or the Westminster Catechism. I think it sounds like it's

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almost like a commentary on that. All right, But Okay,

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maybe he's just tried to establish that our focus has

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to be on God. So maybe that's where this is going. Okay,

466
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I'm just trying to see where he's going. We'll find

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out here.

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I believe this is the way God has designed you

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and me to function, to work out our lives, to

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seek Christ for the satisfaction that we so long to have. However,

471
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it seems that most never arrive at this point, always

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looking for something outside of Christ to satisfy their innermost

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need to be completely content or satisfied. I would propose

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that this was God's plan before time began, before he

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created the heavens and the earth. Excuse me, God, being

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completely satisfied in himself, would create man that man as

477
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well could find complete satisfaction in him. Man being created

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with autonomy to make his own decisions, would find that

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through many failures that have come from making poorly executed

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free decisions, man would be led into such a desperate

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despair that he would look for another to shepherd his life.

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Now we know that sin leads one to despair, but

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there is a remedy that is found in Christ. The

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question is has God granted you the desire by his

485
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grace to pursue Him above all other pursuits. This is

486
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the key question. Are you pursuing God as your primary

487
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source of satisfaction or do you have other pursuits that

488
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are more important than your pursuit of Him? Today, the

489
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church in our country needs Christ desperately, but for some

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strange reason, we believe that we just need better politicians.

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And do we see anywhere in scripture that it is

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our absolute duty to vote for this politician or that politician.

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Of course, no we do not. But the cry before

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us in this election season from all who are around us,

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is that it is our duty to vote, And so

496
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we lose sight of our prescription for duty. Founding God's word,

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that duty would be to love the Lord, our God

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with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength. To partake

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of the Lord's supper, remembering him until he comes back

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to pray, to read, study his word, to take the

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Gospel to all the nations, training the nations to submit

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to God, and to do as he has commanded. To

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baptize those who are given faith. To love our neighbor

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as we love ourselves, for husbands to love their wives, wise,

505
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to respect and follow their husbands, to not provoke our

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children to wrast or in brief, to do all that

507
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God has commanded us.

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Now, I love that fact. I love the fact. Now

509
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it sounds like he's reading something again. I don't know

510
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exactly what he's reading. Maybe he wrote out a manuscript.

511
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I don't know, But whatever he's reading, I do like

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the fact that it's emphasizing that. Nowhere in scripture do

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I see some duty to vote. What I see is

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duty to do these other things. What he's referencing there

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over and over what we would classify theologically as law,

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the law of God. Love God with all your heart, mind, body,

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and soul. Love your neighborers, yourself, love your enemy, turn

518
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the other cheek, pray without ceasing, Rejoice everyone, husbands, love

519
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your wives. All these things that he's citing. Those are

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law passages. These law passes. Passages tell us what God expects,

521
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which is perfection. It demonstrates immediately our inability to do so,

522
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because we're never going to keep this law anywhere clothes.

523
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Then that drives us to Christ. And then we realize

524
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that Christ is the one who keeps the law for us,

525
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and by our faith in him, his obedience passive inactive,

526
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is imputed to my account, and that's how I have

527
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a right standing before God, and practice I still fall short.

528
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All right, Great, So that's wonderful. He's looking at the

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actual duty laid out in scripture. And so when people

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start talking about your duty today, the duty is what's

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found in scripture, not what they impose upon you because

532
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they need you to get their favorite politician elected. No,

533
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your duty is to get out of my face, because

534
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I don't have a duty to vote for your little

535
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favorite politician. There's nothing in scripture that tells me that.

536
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All right, So I'm glad. So I would be one

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hundred percent in agreement with this, and I'm very glad

538
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that he is emphasizing this. So I don't know where

539
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he was going. I don't know how he's going to

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ultimately get to where he said he start. He's going,

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but it's going to be interesting to see how he

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gets there.

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To do. And don't get me wrong, I am not

544
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advising anyone not to vote, but I am informing you

545
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that if we do as God has commanded, then I

546
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believe he would grant us Christian candidates that are worthy

547
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:14.839
of our vote. I myself will vote, but only for

548
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those of whom my conscience will let me vote for.

549
00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:21.599
I want to say that my conscience is captive to

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the word of God. Yet I will also say that

551
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I am open for discussion with those who may disagree

552
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with my positions in regard to politics.

553
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Okay, so he's not telling us not to vote, but

554
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it seems that he's definitely demonstrated that we do. We

555
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have no scriptural duty to do so, right, but he's

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going to vote for whom his conscience will allow him

557
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:52.680
to vote. Now, we've talked about this idea of conscience, right,

558
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and this is such what we could get into a

559
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lengthy discussion here, Like it's easy when you get into

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the political thinging rights, and when you get into the

561
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political thing, you can say, well, my conscience won't let

562
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me vote for that person. Is it really your conscience?

563
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Because this is where it gets very confusing. When you

564
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look at the makeup of a person. Is it just yours?

565
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You just got this strong personal preference, You've got this

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strong personal bias that you're just saying, is now your conscience?

567
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Because if you say it's your conscience, then you almost

568
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:23.960
have a scriptural excuse. Well, I have to vote for

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this person because my conscience won't let me vote for

570
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that person. Well, in that convenient that your conscience? Like

571
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you know what I'm saying, Like, I understand that in

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some cases it may be an issue of conscience, but

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we are so remember we are deceptive and our very

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nature and our very core. I think when it comes

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to politics, Christians love to wrap themselves and philological, biblical,

576
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spiritual sounding terms in order to justify their political choice

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and then feel morally and spiritually superior that their vote

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is somehow the way they're vote is morally or spiritually better.

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And I think in many cases we're just deceive ourselves.

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It's our own it's based on how we were raised,

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it's based where we live, it's based off our own

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little personal preferences. And is it really are you going

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to vote because your conscience is held captive by the

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word of God. Again, that's kind of a reference to

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Luther and what he wrote in reference to the issues

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surrounding the Reformation when he was facing church discipline from

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the Roman Catholic Church. So, I mean everyone quotes that.

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I remember being a young Christian and anytime I would

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my conscience has held captive by the word of God,

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and I can't do anything else but stand every cause,

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00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:42.679
that would be my argument. My argument would always be

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that which would put me then on the right side,

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Like who can argue with me? He's standing because his

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conscience is captured by the word of God and he

595
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can do nothing else but stan. It sounds so righteous,

596
00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:59.199
it sounds so spiritual. Just don't think it's always that simple.

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And if your conscience is really held captive to the

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word of God, who you going to vote for?

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Now?

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What you'll do is you'll say, but on this issue,

601
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:12.039
I can't vote for the other person. But what about

602
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:14.079
this issue and this issue in this issue? So then

603
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:17.679
how do you determine? Do you determine on the It's

604
00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:20.480
not as simple as everyone makes it out to be.

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Let's see how he approaches.

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This though and voting aw Tozer, who was a firebrand

607
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preacher in the mid twentieth century, wrote the following. He said,

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it is not what a man does that determines whether

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his work is sacred or secular. It is why he

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does it. The motive is everything. Let a man sanctify

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the Lord in his heart, and he can thereafter do

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00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:55.559
no common act. All he does is good and acceptable

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to God through Jesus Christ. And so Tozer says, let

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a man sanctify the Lord God in his heart. Please

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00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:09.400
turn with me to First Peter three, and we will

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see where mister Tozer finds this truth. Because we are

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a tribal people belonging to the Christian community, we look

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for men who belong to the tribe and who follow

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the commandments of the tribe leader. More on this later

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in my sermon. As Christians. There are events in life

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that we are taught to expect, namely the antagonism and

622
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persecution from the world by those in the world. Peter

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has much to say about this. In the third chapter

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of First Peter. He says, of following it verse eight. Finally,

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all of you be like minded and sympathetic love as brothers,

626
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:56.920
be tender hearted and humble. Do not repay evil with evil,

627
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or insult with insult, but with blessing. Because to this

628
00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:04.360
you were called, so that you may inherit a blessing.

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For whoever would love life and see good days must

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keep his tongue from evil and his lips from deceitful speech.

631
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He must turn from evil and do good. He must

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seek peace and pursue it. For the eyes of the

633
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:22.719
Lord are on the righteous, and his ears are inclined

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to their prayer. But the face of the Lord, the

635
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face of the Lord, is against those who do evil,

636
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who can harm you. If you are zealous for what

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is good verse fourteen. But even if you should suffer

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for what is right, you are blessed. Do not fear

639
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what they fear. Do not be shaken, but in your

640
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:51.079
hearts sanctify Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give

641
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:54.360
a defense to everyone who asks you the reason for

642
00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:57.639
the hope that is in you. But respond with gentleness

643
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and respect, keeping a clear conscience, so that those who

644
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:05.079
slander you may be put to shame by your good

645
00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:09.480
behavior in Christ. For it is better if it is

646
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:14.679
God's will to suffer for doing good, Then for doing evil,

647
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for Christ also suffered for sins once for all the

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righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. And

649
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I believe the point is made by Peter in verse fifteen,

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that we in our hearts must sanctify Christ as Lord.

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Our hearts must be a place of worship where we

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consider everything that God has commanded, every way that God

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has directed us in his word, for making the decisions

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that we make. I will say this about this verse,

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that our hearts must be a place where Christ has lordship.

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And if this is true of the Christian, he will

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always be looking to carry out the Lord's will in

658
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the midst of the passions that flow from his heart.

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And not only this, but he will govern and modify

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00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:17.360
those passions that are not in alignment with his revealed will.

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Okay, now we're going to get into all kinds of

662
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theological issues here, and I'm not going to follow it.

663
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I think everyone, have you been listening to us to

664
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:27.639
this podcast for any length of time, you know what

665
00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:30.000
I'm getting ready to argue. Wait a minute. So, if

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God is the one controlling and guiding and taking care

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of the things that come from the heart, and he's

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the Lord of the heart, but then the heart should

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basically be well, then where does sin come from? If

670
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God is controlling and guiding what's coming out of the heart,

671
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and he's Lord over my heart, well, then if he's

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lord over it, then he's in charge of it. And

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if he's in charge of my heart, then where in

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the world does sin come from? Because God would be

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stopping any sin that comes from the heart. It's just

676
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:57.800
like this just gets to this never ending contradictory thing

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where Christians basically like, you have a new heart. Well

678
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:02.079
you don't really have a new heart. Well you can

679
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:04.360
say noicein and yes to God. Well, I mean you

680
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:06.719
can't do it perfectly. Well you're a new creature. But

681
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I mean, well you still sin. Okay, Well all things

682
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are passed away, all things that are coming to well,

683
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:13.519
I mean you still it's this double speak, right, So

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if God is Lord of my heart, controlling and guiding

685
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the passions that come from it, well, then ladies and gentlemen,

686
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once the heart is right then and not the center

687
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of my being. So then everything I do and everything

688
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I say, why is it not perfect? Okay? All kinds

689
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of issues that flow from this, but that's not the

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point here. The point here is he's talking about the

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election and who we should vote for. So at this

692
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point I'm still trying to follow how we're getting there,

693
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all right, So I'm going to let him like he's

694
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taking us on this kind of long and winding road.

695
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It's got to end somewhere, right, It's got to get

696
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us somewhere. Let's see where it's going.

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For example, if I am not feeling love for my

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wife on a certain day, it is sinful if I

699
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follow these feelings with sinful acts of omission, or in

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other words, I neglect my duty of love toward my

701
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wife by ignoring those words and actions that I should

702
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be attending to her with.

703
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:20.639
Is it only sinful if you do something or fail

704
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:24.480
to do something. Wouldn't it be sinful if you don't

705
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:28.039
have love in your heart, if you don't love God

706
00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:30.480
with all your heart, if you don't love your if

707
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:33.039
you don't love your wife, wouldn't it be already sinful?

708
00:41:33.079 --> 00:41:36.679
Because sin is not just the action or the lack

709
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:40.039
of action. It's well, you're guilty in your heart. You

710
00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:42.199
can be guilty in your heart before you ever do

711
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:46.599
or not do anything right. And how we understand it

712
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:49.760
or or are now we going to reduce sin just

713
00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:53.159
to action or failed action or failed to do a

714
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:56.400
certain action. No, that's the whole point of what Jesus

715
00:41:56.480 --> 00:42:01.800
tried to demonstrate. No, you're guilty internally, have way before

716
00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:05.360
action or inaction occurs or doesn't occur.

717
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:14.239
Now, let's bring this into the area of voting. My

718
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:19.599
passions that flow from my heart may inform me that

719
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:23.239
if I do not vote for a certain candidate, well,

720
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:25.559
then things are just going to get worse for me.

721
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:30.280
Primarily I will be moved out of my comfort zone

722
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:35.280
and this will happen to others as well. Thus, I

723
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:38.760
vote my feelings and not my conscience. That should be

724
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:42.280
captive to the word of God, or my conscience should

725
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:47.079
overcome my feelings. I should look deep within the Word

726
00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:49.760
of God no matter what decision I need to make,

727
00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:56.159
and to ensure that my decision is in alignment with

728
00:42:56.719 --> 00:43:04.039
the Word of God. If I look, if my conscience

729
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:06.280
is captive to the Word of God, I will look

730
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:09.760
for precedent in the Word of God for my decision

731
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:13.480
in regard to my vote, just as one would look

732
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:16.960
for precedent in God's word for the form of baptism

733
00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:21.840
that he embraces, or any other point of theology that

734
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:26.199
he would embrace. So where do we look for precedent

735
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:30.000
in the scriptures in regard to voting, Well, I would

736
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:33.039
say that there is many places that we can look,

737
00:43:33.639 --> 00:43:39.239
not a place that distinctly talks about voting. Of course, However,

738
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:42.840
there is a text that speaks to choosing men to

739
00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:47.000
judge on civil matters, and that text is found in

740
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:52.239
Exodus eighteen. Please turn there with me. In this chapter,

741
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:56.440
the Israelites have been freed from their captivity in Egypt.

742
00:43:57.039 --> 00:44:02.239
Moses meets Jethro, who is Moses's wife's father, in the desert,

743
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:07.719
and Jethro is returning his wife as well as his

744
00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:11.320
sons to Moses. We will pick up the story of

745
00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:19.440
verse seven, which says the following Moses went out to

746
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:22.400
meet his father in law and bowed down and kissed him,

747
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:26.480
and they asked each other of their welfare, and went

748
00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:29.880
into the tent. Then Moses told his father in law

749
00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:32.480
all that the Lord had done to Pharaoh and to

750
00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:37.000
the Egyptians for Israel's sake, all the hardship that had

751
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:39.840
come upon them in the way, and how the Lord

752
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:45.000
had delivered them. And Jethro rejoiced all for all the

753
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:48.119
good that the Lord had done to Israel, and that

754
00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:51.079
he had delivered them out of the hands of the

755
00:44:51.119 --> 00:45:01.960
Egyptians Verse ten.

756
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:08.320
Okay, so his argument seems to be all right, So

757
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:10.920
we can't go with our feelings. We have to go

758
00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:13.920
with our conscience. Our conscience must be captured by the

759
00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:16.320
word of God. And so we can't really find a

760
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:19.679
scripture that specifically says who we should vote for. So

761
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:25.000
we should go to Exodus eighteen. And Exodus eighteen is

762
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:28.519
the section of scripture that I guess is somehow going

763
00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:32.079
to say this is how we make our determination to vote.

764
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:37.760
I'm going to let him continue to read. Let's this

765
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:40.239
I've got I've got lots of questions here, but let's

766
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:41.000
see where this goes.

767
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:47.119
Jethro said, blessed be the Lord who has delivered you

768
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:50.000
out of the hand of the Egyptians and out of

769
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:53.039
the hand of Pharaoh, and has delivered the people from

770
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:57.280
under the hand of the Egyptians. Now I know that

771
00:45:57.320 --> 00:45:59.920
the Lord is greater than all gods, because in the

772
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:06.119
affair they dealt arrogantly with the people. And Jethro, Moses'

773
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:10.079
father in law, brought a burnt offering and sacrifices to God,

774
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:14.360
and Aaron came with all the elders of Israel to

775
00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:19.559
eat bread with Moses' father in law before God. Now,

776
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:22.800
I want to say, as we launch into this, I

777
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:27.440
can say that this passage is one of the more

778
00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:33.000
important passages that we should be examining in regard to

779
00:46:33.079 --> 00:46:39.159
the voting process. What kind of men should we be

780
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:44.440
looking for to lead our land? And if we find

781
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:51.360
this precedent in this passage, we must find our consciences

782
00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:55.159
to it. This must be something that we follow. The

783
00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:59.719
question is is it or does this passage somehow contradict

784
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:05.679
other portions of scripture? I say not read on with me.

785
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:09.960
In verse thirteen, the next day Moses sat to judge

786
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:13.159
the people, and the people stood around Moses from morning

787
00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:17.079
till evening. He can imagine Moses is probably a wreck

788
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:21.119
at this point, right, He's judging all of the affairs

789
00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:27.239
of the people from morning until evening every day. Verse fourteen.

790
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:29.800
When moses father in law saw all that he was

791
00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:33.400
doing for the people, he said, what is this that

792
00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:36.800
you are doing for the people? Why do you sit

793
00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:39.719
alone and all the people stand around you from morning

794
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:43.079
till evening? And Moses said to his father in law,

795
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:46.400
because the people come to me to inquire of God.

796
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:49.639
When they have a dispute. They come to me, and

797
00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:53.960
I decide between one person and another, and I make

798
00:47:54.039 --> 00:48:01.480
them know the statutes of God and his loss. Strong

799
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:04.719
point here, what is Moses doing well? As these two

800
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:10.840
are coming together, two that are that have an issue

801
00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:15.960
against one another, Moses is opening up the law and

802
00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:21.079
the statutes of God, and he is sharing what God's

803
00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:25.400
will would be in the matter. Verse seventeen, Moses' father

804
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:28.280
in law said to him, what you are doing is

805
00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:32.039
not good. You and the people with you will certainly

806
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:37.079
wear yourselves out, for the thing is too heavy for you. You

807
00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:40.280
are not able to do it alone. Now obey my voice.

808
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:46.199
I will give you advice, and God be with you. You

809
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:50.480
shall represent the people before God and bring their cases

810
00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:55.840
to God. And you shall warn them about the statutes

811
00:48:56.000 --> 00:49:00.880
and the laws, and make them know the way in

812
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:05.760
which they must walk and what they must do. Moreover,

813
00:49:05.960 --> 00:49:09.320
look for able men from all the people, men who

814
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:13.599
fear God, who are trustworthy and hate a bride. And

815
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:17.679
place such men over the people as chiefs of thousands,

816
00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:21.880
of hundreds, of fifties and of tens, and let them

817
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:28.320
judge the people at all pinmes. So Moses go to

818
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:33.480
the tribes. Look for men that are capable of doing

819
00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:37.039
such a job. Look for men that fear God and

820
00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:42.079
who will not take a bribe. These are the men

821
00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:48.480
to be put in the position or the positions that

822
00:49:48.559 --> 00:49:54.760
you are looking for. Every great matter to continue at

823
00:49:54.800 --> 00:49:58.360
verse twenty two, they shall bring to you. But any

824
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:02.199
small matter they shall decid themselves, so it will be

825
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:05.280
easier for you, and they will bear the burden with you.

826
00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:08.800
If you do this, God will direct you. You will

827
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:13.159
be able to endure and all this people also will

828
00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:14.840
go to their place in peace.

829
00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:19.400
All right, we have so much going on here, so

830
00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:21.519
much going on here. I hate that we reached the

831
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:23.599
fifty minute mark and we just finally got here. But

832
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:27.079
that's okay, we have gotten here. This may lead you

833
00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:29.880
to something to think about and discuss all day. His

834
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:33.440
entire thesis. After all, he took a long way to

835
00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:36.880
get here, right, But his entire thesis is basically, look,

836
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:39.280
if you need to know who to vote for, go

837
00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:43.119
to Exodus chapter eighteen. Start in verse seventeen and go

838
00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:47.360
to twenty seven, and this will give you the guideline

839
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:50.840
and who to vote for, ladies and gentlemen. Now, first

840
00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:52.920
of all, let's just make it very clear. This is

841
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:56.119
not in Exodus eighteen and following. This is nothing about

842
00:50:56.159 --> 00:51:00.480
American democracy, nothing under our system. This is this is

843
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:04.559
operating under a theocracy. Okay, God is literally leading and

844
00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:08.679
guiding and directing and speaking. This is a theocratic system,

845
00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:14.000
not our kind of democratic democracy, representative republic type system.

846
00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:16.599
So already there's a problem. But I just want you

847
00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:19.400
to do this all right. I want you now, if

848
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:22.079
you've been paying any attention, I mean, Donald Trump has

849
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.719
been on the scene for a long time. We know

850
00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:27.519
all the things he has said, all the things he

851
00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:31.519
has done, all the words he has used, the language

852
00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:34.239
he has used, the things he's been found guilty in

853
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:37.719
a court of law. For I mean, it's there is

854
00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:40.320
a lot there. It's not like he's some new person

855
00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:43.079
and we don't have a lot to go by. Would

856
00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:46.239
you look and then say, okay, look at Exodus chapter eighteen,

857
00:51:46.320 --> 00:51:49.320
verse twenty one. Moreover, thou shall provide out of all

858
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:55.239
the people able men such as fear God, men of truth,

859
00:51:56.039 --> 00:52:01.760
hating coveteousness. If you look, get those descriptions is that,

860
00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:04.559
Donald Trump? I mean, if you said that to any

861
00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:07.360
reasonable person, they would laugh you in the face and go,

862
00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:10.079
are you out of your mind? Are you out of

863
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:14.400
your capable? Men? This is a competence. Leaders should have

864
00:52:14.440 --> 00:52:17.199
the skill necessary for their role, able to judge matters

865
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:21.679
wisely and handle responsibilities effectively. Now, well, do we look

866
00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:24.639
at all of the bankruptcies? Do we look at that

867
00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:28.760
fear of God? Reverence and moral accountability? Leaders should possess

868
00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:32.039
a deep respect for God, which brings moral accountability to

869
00:52:32.119 --> 00:52:35.719
their actions and decisions. Do you see Donald Trump is

870
00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:38.400
a man who fears God and is moral?

871
00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:38.920
Do I?

872
00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:42.280
I can't even read to you the things that he

873
00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:44.599
has said. I mean, do you want me to do

874
00:52:44.679 --> 00:52:46.440
we go back to the Access Hollywood tape?

875
00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:46.559
Oh?

876
00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:48.880
Yeah, I would get kicked off, sermonadio if I wish

877
00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:50.400
to read those words, right?

878
00:52:50.559 --> 00:52:50.679
Like?

879
00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:52.320
Do I? If I was to read some of the

880
00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:55.440
words he has said, I would literally be kicked off, Sermonadi.

881
00:52:55.639 --> 00:53:00.239
I can't even say those words. The thing that he

882
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:04.280
has done, the things he's been found liable for and

883
00:53:04.320 --> 00:53:08.280
guilty for in a court of law, Like, does any

884
00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:13.000
of that even matter? Trustworthy leaders should be reliable with

885
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:17.559
an established record of honesty and ethical behavior. The number

886
00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:23.400
of lies that Donald Trump has said is staggering. Hatred

887
00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:27.880
of dishonest gain Liters should reject bribery or self enrichment,

888
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:32.880
prioritizing the good of the people over personal gain. Now,

889
00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:35.519
come on, now, is that the direction? Now I'm not

890
00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:37.320
seeing that's the direction he's going to go. I'm saying,

891
00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:42.880
if you use Exodus chapter eighteen as your like, so

892
00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:52.079
someone has to meet this criteria before you vote for them. Really, really,

893
00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:59.880
I mean, come on now, come on now, really, I mean,

894
00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:01.800
let's just see where he goes.

895
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:06.239
So Moses listened to the voice of his father in

896
00:54:06.320 --> 00:54:09.920
law and did all that he had said. Moses chose

897
00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:13.360
able men out of all Israel, and made them heads

898
00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:18.239
over the people, chiefs of thousands, hundreds, fifties, and of tens.

899
00:54:19.039 --> 00:54:22.199
And they judged the people at all times. Any hard

900
00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:25.760
cases they brought to Moses, but any small matter they

901
00:54:25.840 --> 00:54:30.280
decided themselves. Then Moses led his father in law depart,

902
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:34.840
and he went away to his own country. Now in

903
00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:38.519
this passage we noticed four things that Moses was instructed

904
00:54:38.639 --> 00:54:45.559
by Jethro to do, and they are as follows. Number one,

905
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:50.039
Moses was to choose men among his people, the Israelites.

906
00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:53.679
The instructions were not to go back to Egypt or

907
00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:57.239
any other country for that matter, and began his search

908
00:54:57.320 --> 00:55:00.280
for trusted men. He was to look for men within

909
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:05.280
Israel who knew the statutes and the laws as Moses did,

910
00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:09.239
and be faithful to judge between the matters of the people,

911
00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:14.199
just as we are taught to do today. For example,

912
00:55:14.239 --> 00:55:17.760
when we choose elders or deacons in the church, we

913
00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:22.519
choose men among us whom we have observed, have experience with,

914
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:27.519
and have proved that they can fill such positions. You know,

915
00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:32.320
if there could be a seminarian that is just brilliant,

916
00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:36.519
but we do not know his character. We have not

917
00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:40.920
spent any time with him. Oh, he's come to our church,

918
00:55:41.519 --> 00:55:45.440
he's given a couple sermons. Some people have said good

919
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:48.960
things about him, but we don't know the man. I

920
00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:56.599
think this is a recipe for disaster. So Moses choose

921
00:55:56.760 --> 00:56:02.880
people within the tribes, people people who are capable, They

922
00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:06.800
fear God, they won't accept a bribe. These are men

923
00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:12.239
who you should choose. And I have a question for

924
00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:14.960
all of you at this point, do we see anything

925
00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:20.480
wrong with the advice that Jethro is giving Moses. Of

926
00:56:20.559 --> 00:56:25.280
course not. You know, there's nothing in scripture that would

927
00:56:25.400 --> 00:56:31.559
run against this advice. In fact, everything in scripture would

928
00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:37.440
confirm that this is good, strong, godly advice that Moses

929
00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:44.000
should be Following number two, in choosing those that we

930
00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:47.400
will entrust to lead us and represent us in the

931
00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:51.079
civil sphere, we look for men who are capable of

932
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:56.920
filling such a position. In Romans thirteen, when Paul is

933
00:56:56.960 --> 00:57:01.119
giving the instruction for a civil servant's says that the

934
00:57:01.159 --> 00:57:05.000
civil magistrate is a servant of God for your good.

935
00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:09.599
And I would say, no matter what the leader position

936
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:15.079
is in society, we look for men who have proven

937
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:19.360
themselves to be servants, servants of God for the good

938
00:57:19.559 --> 00:57:24.920
of the people. Now, the Greek word for servant is

939
00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:33.679
diaconos diaconos I'm sorry, which can be translated servant or minister.

940
00:57:34.599 --> 00:57:37.639
You will notice in the King Game Vergeon that the

941
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:42.920
word minister is used. Paul called Timothy a diaconos or.

942
00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:47.840
I'm ah okay. I'm trying to let it play as

943
00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:52.519
much as possible because his thesis is basically, we go

944
00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:55.480
to Exodus eighteen and this gives us the guidelines on

945
00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:57.920
whom we're supposed to vote for. That's really the argument

946
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:01.280
right again, it's taking a THEO system trying to apply

947
00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:05.159
it to our system. Here. The people don't vote, Moses

948
00:58:05.719 --> 00:58:09.760
makes the determinator. I mean, there's is it truly transferable?

949
00:58:09.840 --> 00:58:15.280
But even if it's transferable, then they then basically what

950
00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:17.440
you're doing. And he basically argued that this is the

951
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:19.719
same type of thing you would do for choosing a

952
00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:23.599
pastor or an elder. Well, then so do we only

953
00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:26.880
vote for people who meet the requirement basically of a pastor?

954
00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:31.840
Like this, the whole thing here becomes very complicated and convoluted.

955
00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:34.400
I wish you would not run to Romans thirteen right now.

956
00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:37.599
I wish you would stay in Exodus eighteen and articulate this.

957
00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:39.719
But I'll let him do his thing. I'm going to

958
00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:43.440
come back to Exodus eighteen because while we were listening, well,

959
00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:48.599
I had to ask artificial intelligence that, based on Exodus

960
00:58:48.639 --> 00:58:53.719
eighteen as the criteria, how would Donald Trump fit this criteria?

961
00:58:53.760 --> 00:58:57.559
And well, AI cracked me up. So we'll talk about

962
00:58:58.039 --> 00:59:01.239
We'll talk about how I answered in a minute. But

963
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:03.519
let's see if he will is he going to name

964
00:59:03.639 --> 00:59:05.440
someone what's he going to do. Is he going to

965
00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:07.440
wait all the way to the end. I'm hoping he

966
00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:08.719
gets us somewhere here.

967
00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:15.119
Or a servant of God. People will say when voting

968
00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:18.039
that they are not voting for a pastor in chief

969
00:59:18.639 --> 00:59:25.239
but a president. However, the civil magistrate, like the pastor,

970
00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:28.320
is a servant of God for the good of the people,

971
00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:34.360
only in a different capacity.

972
00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:38.599
Wow, that's a big argument. So he's almost basically saying

973
00:59:38.639 --> 00:59:41.280
that When people say, hey, I'm not voting for a pastor,

974
00:59:41.679 --> 00:59:43.519
I'm not voting for a past He's like, no, you're

975
00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:45.920
voting for someone who's supposed to be a servant of

976
00:59:45.960 --> 00:59:49.400
God for our good. So you're still voting for someone

977
00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:51.519
who's a servant of God. So then they have to

978
00:59:51.559 --> 00:59:55.719
meet that certain criteria, right, That would go after a

979
00:59:55.719 --> 00:59:57.559
lot of Christians are like, well, I'm not voting for

980
00:59:57.639 --> 01:00:00.400
a pope. I'm not voting for a pastor. If you're

981
01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:04.199
gonna if you're going to take a scriptural approach, he's

982
01:00:04.239 --> 01:00:06.480
making the argument, no, well then you've got to find

983
01:00:06.480 --> 01:00:09.440
someone who meets this criteria. This is about to get

984
01:00:09.559 --> 01:00:12.960
very interesting where he's gonna go here. Right now, he's

985
01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:16.400
definitely got me. He kind of takes a long and

986
01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:20.639
winding way to get there, right, but he's he's definitely

987
01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:23.280
I'm invested here. I want to know where this is going.

988
01:00:26.199 --> 01:00:29.239
There is nowhere in Romans thirteen that says that the

989
01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:33.400
role of the civil magistrate is somehow diminished before God,

990
01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:38.400
or it's not as important as a pastor of a church.

991
01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:44.000
He is no less a servant of God to carry

992
01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:49.039
out God's will his commands as the pastor of a church.

993
01:00:50.440 --> 01:00:55.320
Remember this, he is a servant, a diaconos. Diaconos is

994
01:00:55.480 --> 01:01:01.280
used in the New Testament, you know for pastors of receivers, bishops,

995
01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:08.239
these men are servants, But so is the civil magistrate.

996
01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:16.000
Wow, he's making a powerful case here that basically the

997
01:01:16.119 --> 01:01:19.719
hey that this civil leader is no different than a pastor.

998
01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:22.440
It's the same Greek word. Now, while we could get

999
01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:26.239
into this could get into a whole host of issues. Hang,

1000
01:01:26.320 --> 01:01:28.039
I'm going to go to I'm going to go to

1001
01:01:28.119 --> 01:01:31.639
Romans thirteen because I always have to verify. Obviously, I've

1002
01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:33.920
told you so many times how pastors will say things

1003
01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:37.760
about the Greek and it turns out to be well,

1004
01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:41.039
it turns out to be majorly problematic. Here, okay, hang on,

1005
01:01:42.639 --> 01:01:46.519
uh see, where's the where's the I don't know what

1006
01:01:46.599 --> 01:01:50.320
translation he's using. Is it is it? Let's see, let's go.

1007
01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:55.159
I'm going to go to verse four. Theos. Okay, yeah,

1008
01:01:55.159 --> 01:01:57.519
this is the Greek word. All right, here's the Greek word.

1009
01:01:58.079 --> 01:02:00.559
It's the Greek word diakonos. I think that is how

1010
01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:01.039
you say it.

1011
01:02:03.960 --> 01:02:09.159
Strong's g twelve forty nine. Diaconos diaconos.

1012
01:02:10.679 --> 01:02:14.199
Diaconos is the Greek word to choose thirty one times,

1013
01:02:14.719 --> 01:02:18.159
all right, so it is used. Diacanos is used to

1014
01:02:18.199 --> 01:02:22.840
refer to the civil leader in Romans thirteen. But yeah,

1015
01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:29.320
I choose to refer to uh yeah, Paul and Colossians

1016
01:02:29.360 --> 01:02:32.280
one twenty five. Wherefore I have made a minister according

1017
01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:34.599
to the dismissation of God which is given to me.

1018
01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:34.840
Y know.

1019
01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:39.400
So he's right, deacons is diaconos. Obviously it would make

1020
01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:44.559
sense the word minister. If thou put the brethren in

1021
01:02:44.639 --> 01:02:48.920
remembrance of things, thou shall be a good minister diaconos.

1022
01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:51.719
So when people say I'm not he's his argument is

1023
01:02:51.840 --> 01:02:54.000
don't say, well, I'm not voting for a pastor, You're

1024
01:02:54.079 --> 01:02:57.320
voting for a diaconos. And if you're voting for a diaconos, Well,

1025
01:02:57.360 --> 01:03:00.559
then that's the same Greek word used to describe a pastor.

1026
01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:03.800
So therefore he's still supposed to be a minister, a

1027
01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:08.199
servant of God, following God's will, serving God. So then

1028
01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:10.280
he has to meet them the same requirements or at

1029
01:03:10.320 --> 01:03:17.000
least to some level. That's going to have a profound

1030
01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:19.960
impact if you follow that through. Now, my concern is

1031
01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:22.119
is he going to then argue that someone that a

1032
01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:26.000
candidate in the twenty twenty four election meets the criteria

1033
01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:29.559
for diacinos like comes even even close to that because

1034
01:03:29.679 --> 01:03:34.320
even Ai basically laughed at me, even I like me,

1035
01:03:34.519 --> 01:03:35.480
are you out of your mind?

1036
01:03:35.599 --> 01:03:35.679
Right?

1037
01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:38.079
So I'll go through in a minute what they had

1038
01:03:38.320 --> 01:03:40.039
to say, But let's see where he takes this. This

1039
01:03:40.440 --> 01:03:41.679
is an interesting argument.

1040
01:03:43.719 --> 01:03:48.760
And thus we look for men of impeccable character, not

1041
01:03:48.920 --> 01:03:50.880
just say well, I'm not voting for a pastor, I'm

1042
01:03:50.920 --> 01:03:56.480
voting for a president. And why do we compromise he

1043
01:03:56.679 --> 01:03:58.920
is a servant, a bondservant of God.

1044
01:04:01.039 --> 01:04:05.840
We look for men with an impeccable character. I mean,

1045
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:08.679
come on now, lady, there's no way you can hear this.

1046
01:04:08.760 --> 01:04:10.599
I'm like, I'm gonna go vote for Donald Trump to

1047
01:04:10.840 --> 01:04:15.199
impeccable character. Are you out of your ever living mind? Okay,

1048
01:04:15.239 --> 01:04:19.599
come on now, So he's he is going after the

1049
01:04:19.800 --> 01:04:22.360
argument that most Christians may, Oh, I am not voting

1050
01:04:22.400 --> 01:04:26.960
for a pastor. I'm just voting so the president doesn't

1051
01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:29.119
need impeccable character. Say, this is the weird thing in

1052
01:04:29.159 --> 01:04:32.960
the nineties. Christians will be like, well, character matters. Character matters.

1053
01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:36.519
Bill Clinton as an abomination to God twenty twenty four.

1054
01:04:36.800 --> 01:04:39.599
Character doesn't matter. I'm not voting for a pastor. At

1055
01:04:39.679 --> 01:04:41.639
least he's coming along going whoa wall, Wait a minute,

1056
01:04:41.679 --> 01:04:46.360
Wait a minute, Diakinos, minister, he has to have an

1057
01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:51.800
impeccable character. And if we say someone needs a good

1058
01:04:51.880 --> 01:04:54.320
character to lead the church, do you not need good

1059
01:04:54.440 --> 01:04:59.920
character to lead a nation. That's the argument he's making.

1060
01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:04.800
All right, this is this is This raises a million questions. Oh,

1061
01:05:04.840 --> 01:05:06.920
I'm so interested to see where he goes here. Let's see,

1062
01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:09.320
let's see if he's gonna if he I want him

1063
01:05:09.320 --> 01:05:10.760
to just go ahead and say, we may have to

1064
01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:13.239
kind of do some fast forwarding here. We're already over

1065
01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:15.440
an hour. But that's okay, this is interesting. This is

1066
01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:18.159
at least if it's not interesting to you, then you

1067
01:05:18.199 --> 01:05:19.599
go do what you need to do. I'm gonna be

1068
01:05:19.639 --> 01:05:22.079
sitting here because I've got to have an answer now.

1069
01:05:23.480 --> 01:05:27.800
In a different capacity as a pastor, yes, but nonetheless

1070
01:05:27.960 --> 01:05:34.360
a servant of God. Thirdly, Moses was to look for

1071
01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:37.960
men who feared God. Once again, Moses was to look

1072
01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:41.920
for men that he observed two here, men who demonstrated

1073
01:05:43.079 --> 01:05:47.880
a fear of God. Proverbs one seven informs us that

1074
01:05:47.960 --> 01:05:50.840
the fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge.

1075
01:05:51.480 --> 01:05:56.800
Full fools despise wisdom and instruction. Or can we say

1076
01:05:56.840 --> 01:06:00.119
this about the leaders that we put in office? There

1077
01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:05.480
are some that despise wisdom and instruction. Where do we

1078
01:06:05.639 --> 01:06:10.519
find wisdom and instruction in the word of God? Why

1079
01:06:10.559 --> 01:06:13.639
would we vote for men who do not fear God?

1080
01:06:14.639 --> 01:06:18.280
Why would we vote for men who despise His wisdom

1081
01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:26.840
and instruction? This is beyond me. I don't understand. Moses

1082
01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:30.079
was to begin a concentrated effort to look for men

1083
01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:32.880
who feared God and had the good of the people

1084
01:06:32.960 --> 01:06:38.960
in mind, and thus would judge in a righteous manner. Fourthly,

1085
01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:42.960
men were to be chosen who were trustworthy and hated

1086
01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:47.760
a bribe Exodus twenty three, six to Age says a

1087
01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:52.519
following about bribery. You shall not pervert the justice due

1088
01:06:52.559 --> 01:06:57.199
to your poor in his lawsuit. Keep far from a

1089
01:06:57.199 --> 01:07:01.480
false charge. Do not kill the innocent and righteous, for

1090
01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:05.280
I will not acquit the wicked. And you shall take

1091
01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:09.480
no bribe, For a bribe binds the blinds the clear sighted,

1092
01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:15.079
and subverts the cause of those who are in the right.

1093
01:07:18.360 --> 01:07:21.599
How many politicians can we even name that don't take

1094
01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:30.280
money from special interest groups? And this money sways the

1095
01:07:30.440 --> 01:07:33.559
mind and the resolve of the individual that they are

1096
01:07:33.639 --> 01:07:41.079
voting for Psalm fifteen, it stoles the one who walks

1097
01:07:41.079 --> 01:07:45.199
in righteousness. David says the following in Psalm fifteen. Of

1098
01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:49.079
those who walk in righteousness, Oh Lord, who shall sojourn

1099
01:07:49.280 --> 01:07:52.679
in your tent, who shall dwell on your holy hill,

1100
01:07:53.880 --> 01:07:58.199
He who walks blamelessly and does what is right, and

1101
01:07:58.320 --> 01:08:04.199
speaks truth in his heart, art who does not slander

1102
01:08:04.280 --> 01:08:07.440
with his tongue, and does no evil to his neighbor,

1103
01:08:07.960 --> 01:08:12.159
nor takes up a reproach against his friend, in whose

1104
01:08:12.239 --> 01:08:17.800
eyes a vile person is despised, But who honors those

1105
01:08:18.279 --> 01:08:21.520
who fear the Lord who swears to his own hurt

1106
01:08:22.119 --> 01:08:25.840
and does not change, who does not put out his

1107
01:08:26.039 --> 01:08:29.399
money at interest and does not take a bribe against

1108
01:08:29.439 --> 01:08:34.920
the innocent. He who does these things shall never be moved.

1109
01:08:36.199 --> 01:08:39.880
Look at your candidates you're voting for today. Do they

1110
01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:45.520
take bribes against the innocent? Let me ask you something.

1111
01:08:45.960 --> 01:08:51.199
Who is the most individual, innocent individual in the world.

1112
01:08:53.359 --> 01:08:58.800
Would you aggrieve with me that this is the individual

1113
01:08:58.960 --> 01:09:06.359
that is in the womb. It's beyond me that we

1114
01:09:06.439 --> 01:09:13.039
bring judgments. I'm the most innocent person on earth, the

1115
01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:16.720
individual in the womb. And we vote for men, we

1116
01:09:16.960 --> 01:09:26.439
vote for women who embrace abortion or slaughter of these

1117
01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:28.600
innocent young ones.

1118
01:09:31.279 --> 01:09:33.279
Okay, now, okay, a couple of things. First of all,

1119
01:09:33.319 --> 01:09:37.600
from a thiological perspective, we are sinners at conception, so

1120
01:09:37.640 --> 01:09:40.119
we're we are we are already sinners, right, We're already

1121
01:09:40.279 --> 01:09:43.800
So when you say innocent, innocent, maybe an action, but

1122
01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:48.039
we're But even a child in the womb is has

1123
01:09:48.079 --> 01:09:51.039
a sinful nature unless you're going to argue against original

1124
01:09:51.039 --> 01:09:53.760
sin and depravity. Okay, all right, But so he's going

1125
01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:55.520
to turn this to abortion, where we're going to turn

1126
01:09:55.560 --> 01:09:58.119
this to abortion. Let's make it very clear. Donald Trump

1127
01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:01.920
is opposed to a national ban on abortion and said

1128
01:10:01.960 --> 01:10:06.119
he would veto it. All right, So let's just make

1129
01:10:06.159 --> 01:10:09.560
that very clear. And Roe v. Wade has already been overturned,

1130
01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:11.920
it's been handed to the states, So then you should

1131
01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:15.199
be more concerned who you vote for in state elections,

1132
01:10:15.239 --> 01:10:19.199
not necessarily the federal And not only that, abortion rates,

1133
01:10:19.239 --> 01:10:22.479
as I have demonstrated, and I could probably look for

1134
01:10:22.520 --> 01:10:26.039
the articles right now that I've saved, has actually increased

1135
01:10:26.479 --> 01:10:30.600
since Roe v. Wade has been overturned. Why Because you

1136
01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:35.439
don't stop abortion simply by trying to go after it politically.

1137
01:10:35.560 --> 01:10:37.680
You got to change hearts and minds. I'm not saying

1138
01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:40.479
that there shouldn't be I'm not by any means diminishing

1139
01:10:40.520 --> 01:10:42.840
the attempts and what people are trying to do. But

1140
01:10:42.920 --> 01:10:45.840
I stated it before it happened. Even if you get

1141
01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:47.439
rid of Roe v. Wade, you're not going to get

1142
01:10:47.479 --> 01:10:49.760
rid of abortion because a good portion of this country

1143
01:10:49.920 --> 01:10:52.319
believes in it, supports it, and they're going to continue

1144
01:10:52.359 --> 01:10:55.000
to fight for it. And abortion rates will not decrease,

1145
01:10:55.039 --> 01:10:57.399
they will increase, And they may decrease in one area

1146
01:10:57.399 --> 01:10:59.439
but they increase in another. Why because people go to

1147
01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:01.960
the places where they need to go to obtain that

1148
01:11:02.039 --> 01:11:07.720
particular action. So that's that's I mean, if we're gonna

1149
01:11:07.720 --> 01:11:09.840
turn if we're gonna reduce it to that issue, if

1150
01:11:09.840 --> 01:11:12.760
we're going to reduce it to that issue. But please

1151
01:11:12.800 --> 01:11:18.079
note he said Exodus eighteen is the test. Exodus eighteen

1152
01:11:19.039 --> 01:11:22.319
does not mention abortion, all right, now, but he's inserted

1153
01:11:22.359 --> 01:11:26.319
that directly into the text. Right, But just make sure

1154
01:11:26.359 --> 01:11:33.199
we understand theologically, a child is we are conceived in sin.

1155
01:11:33.359 --> 01:11:38.039
We are sinners from conception, so before God, we are sinners.

1156
01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:38.680
Right.

1157
01:11:39.560 --> 01:11:42.199
You can't use the term innocent unless you're going to

1158
01:11:42.199 --> 01:11:46.439
then say innocent, that a sinner is innocent, Like then

1159
01:11:46.720 --> 01:11:50.760
are are you gonna say innocent until action is done? Well,

1160
01:11:50.760 --> 01:11:52.760
then that would mean if I never do an action,

1161
01:11:52.880 --> 01:11:55.479
then I'm innocent because I've never done the Now it

1162
01:11:55.520 --> 01:11:58.199
gets now philologically that gets a little confusing, all right,

1163
01:11:58.199 --> 01:11:59.560
But let's see where he's gonna take this.

1164
01:12:01.239 --> 01:12:08.279
Why do we do this? I can't be sure about

1165
01:12:08.319 --> 01:12:10.720
any of you, but for me, I would much rather

1166
01:12:10.800 --> 01:12:16.600
follow the Lord's ways and never be moved. No compromise

1167
01:12:16.760 --> 01:12:20.319
is what I see in the scripture. We have too

1168
01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:24.119
many special interest groups or lobbyists who will do everything

1169
01:12:24.119 --> 01:12:28.920
in their power to bribe politicians for special favors, and

1170
01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:34.239
whoever gets the most money from these professional briberists most

1171
01:12:34.319 --> 01:12:38.960
often win. They're races. Let this not be named among

1172
01:12:39.039 --> 01:12:43.920
you and I. I just read a prescription from God's

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01:12:43.960 --> 01:12:46.840
word in regard to how we choose those who will

1174
01:12:47.119 --> 01:12:53.760
lead us. But the church as a whole cowards, because well,

1175
01:12:53.840 --> 01:12:56.800
you know, God's ways just don't work, and we need

1176
01:12:56.840 --> 01:13:00.199
to do what we see as right in our own eyes.

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01:13:00.720 --> 01:13:06.680
We need to compromise. This is the recipe for disaster,

1178
01:13:07.359 --> 01:13:09.800
or the way of the foolish man. And the Lord

1179
01:13:09.840 --> 01:13:12.680
will not bless us as a church or as a

1180
01:13:12.760 --> 01:13:19.640
nation as we continue to compromise. Thus says the Lord.

1181
01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:26.359
But I know, but you know, we have basically two candidates.

1182
01:13:26.359 --> 01:13:30.079
We're only a two We're only a two party system.

1183
01:13:30.159 --> 01:13:34.760
We got to vote for one or the other. Right, No,

1184
01:13:37.039 --> 01:13:41.479
when we step into the realm of life, we have

1185
01:13:41.560 --> 01:13:45.399
to realize that the scripture says one slaughter of one

1186
01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:50.640
child is enough. Yeah, but this guy who'll only slaughter

1187
01:13:50.720 --> 01:13:54.880
five hundred, and this woman she'll slaughter seven hundred. So

1188
01:13:55.000 --> 01:13:59.279
let's back put all our resources against this man who's

1189
01:13:59.319 --> 01:14:05.800
going to create this evil and allow five hundred innocent

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01:14:07.119 --> 01:14:12.319
individuals or babies in the womb to be slaughtered. Is

1191
01:14:12.359 --> 01:14:19.319
this right? Let's go on. I want to dispel some

1192
01:14:19.479 --> 01:14:22.960
of the myths that we have in our Christian political

1193
01:14:23.039 --> 01:14:26.159
sphere today, and one of those myths would be the

1194
01:14:26.279 --> 01:14:32.439
pro life movement. What is the pro life movement? Pro

1195
01:14:32.560 --> 01:14:37.359
life would be no life's taken, but that is not

1196
01:14:37.560 --> 01:14:39.319
so in the pro life movement.

1197
01:14:41.439 --> 01:14:43.840
Just so that we know, all right, so he's going

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01:14:43.920 --> 01:14:45.680
to go after the pro life movement, but just make

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01:14:45.720 --> 01:14:48.399
sure we understand things are complicated right here in the

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01:14:48.439 --> 01:14:52.279
state of Texas because of our new abortion law. Teenage girl,

1201
01:14:53.359 --> 01:14:58.439
the fetus, the baby is well basically dying inside of her.

1202
01:14:58.960 --> 01:15:02.199
She goes to emergency room. After emergency, she goes to

1203
01:15:02.239 --> 01:15:04.800
three emergency rooms to seek help. They can't help her

1204
01:15:04.840 --> 01:15:08.159
because they can't do anything that could possibly harm the

1205
01:15:08.199 --> 01:15:10.680
baby the fetus, depending on how you want to look

1206
01:15:10.720 --> 01:15:12.479
at it. Okay, I'm not going to get into that

1207
01:15:12.600 --> 01:15:15.520
never ending argument, but okay, the point is she can't

1208
01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:18.039
get medical attention, so they just basically put her in

1209
01:15:18.039 --> 01:15:20.840
a room and she dies. Well, if you're pro live,

1210
01:15:21.720 --> 01:15:28.079
didn't the teenage girls live matter? Didn't her live matter,

1211
01:15:29.840 --> 01:15:32.000
or oh, did only the baby in the womb matter? Well,

1212
01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:34.279
the baby in the womb was basically dying and there

1213
01:15:34.359 --> 01:15:36.880
was nothing they could do. So what needed to happen

1214
01:15:36.960 --> 01:15:39.600
is pregnancy needed to be terminated in order to save

1215
01:15:39.640 --> 01:15:42.159
her life, but because of the new abortion laws in Texas,

1216
01:15:42.199 --> 01:15:44.680
they couldn't. So a teenage girl dies. This has been

1217
01:15:44.760 --> 01:15:47.039
national news. It's been over. I was having a conversation

1218
01:15:47.079 --> 01:15:50.640
about it last night with my daughter. So horrible, horrible

1219
01:15:50.720 --> 01:15:58.399
story for everyone involved. Now I've read the story of

1220
01:15:58.600 --> 01:16:00.760
looked at the story, I've talked about the story. It's

1221
01:16:00.760 --> 01:16:03.960
a horrible situation. But if you're pro life, see, that's

1222
01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:06.399
the thing. Sometimes we pass these laws and there's always

1223
01:16:06.479 --> 01:16:13.279
unintended consequences. Some people will say, well, you shouldn't have

1224
01:16:13.359 --> 01:16:17.479
done anything. So if you can't terminate the pregnancy because

1225
01:16:17.479 --> 01:16:20.399
we're against all abortion, I understand that. But then so

1226
01:16:20.520 --> 01:16:24.319
the mom dies, I mean, that's just horrible. She went

1227
01:16:24.359 --> 01:16:26.880
for three emergency rooms and they couldn't do anything for me.

1228
01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:28.439
They basically just set her in a room and let

1229
01:16:28.439 --> 01:16:36.119
her die. So that things are always complicated. And another thing,

1230
01:16:36.199 --> 01:16:38.640
if you're going to reduce everything just to abortion, which

1231
01:16:38.680 --> 01:16:40.800
is what many Christians do. The only thing that matters

1232
01:16:40.840 --> 01:16:44.039
is abortion. What about all the other issues? Now, abortion

1233
01:16:44.199 --> 01:16:48.119
obviously is significant because nobody should want to support obviously

1234
01:16:48.159 --> 01:16:51.039
the killing of a baby. Obviously that should bother all

1235
01:16:51.079 --> 01:16:55.359
of us. Nobody is minimizing that. But there's more issues

1236
01:16:55.399 --> 01:16:59.319
than just that right that things are complicated, and if

1237
01:16:59.319 --> 01:17:02.119
it's already been handed to the states, well, then each

1238
01:17:02.159 --> 01:17:04.239
state determines. So then you would want to vote for

1239
01:17:04.279 --> 01:17:06.319
people in the state, and then you would want to

1240
01:17:06.319 --> 01:17:09.600
hopefully pass some kind of laws within that state. What

1241
01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:11.880
do you want the federal government to do at this point? Now,

1242
01:17:11.920 --> 01:17:14.319
if you want a national abortion ban where you're not

1243
01:17:14.319 --> 01:17:17.199
going to get it. Trump's not going to do it,

1244
01:17:17.960 --> 01:17:19.680
Kamala is not going to do it. So you're not

1245
01:17:19.720 --> 01:17:21.760
going to get a national abortion ban. So then what

1246
01:17:21.800 --> 01:17:24.479
are you going to do? Is that's going to be

1247
01:17:24.520 --> 01:17:25.359
your fight? Your fight?

1248
01:17:25.479 --> 01:17:26.079
Is that it?

1249
01:17:26.479 --> 01:17:29.239
Well, what about all the other things in scripture? What

1250
01:17:29.319 --> 01:17:32.119
about all the other things? What about all the characteristics

1251
01:17:32.920 --> 01:17:38.680
and Exodus eighteen? Do you just throw all of that out?

1252
01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:41.079
He's now talking about the pro life movement. I think

1253
01:17:41.119 --> 01:17:43.199
what he's going to do is criticize the pro life movement,

1254
01:17:43.239 --> 01:17:44.840
I think is what he's getting ready to do. Let's

1255
01:17:44.840 --> 01:17:46.199
see what he's getting ready to say.

1256
01:17:48.520 --> 01:17:52.479
When someone says pro life, what exactly is meant by

1257
01:17:52.520 --> 01:17:56.520
that statement, Well, to most Republicans, it means that we

1258
01:17:56.560 --> 01:18:00.640
will secure our resources behind the Republicans because they will

1259
01:18:00.680 --> 01:18:07.439
allow for less slaughter of babies than the Democrats. This

1260
01:18:07.520 --> 01:18:12.760
is nonsense. There should be no babies killed, and we

1261
01:18:12.800 --> 01:18:18.039
should hold our civil magistrates, the individuals that we vote for,

1262
01:18:19.600 --> 01:18:26.920
we should hold them accountable to this. But Larry, you

1263
01:18:27.000 --> 01:18:32.279
must remember you know that our candidate, he's only going

1264
01:18:32.359 --> 01:18:35.880
to slaughter in the first trimester, where the other candidate

1265
01:18:36.319 --> 01:18:41.279
is going to slaughter in the second and third trimester.

1266
01:18:46.159 --> 01:18:52.000
We're still taking lives which God does not allow. Show

1267
01:18:52.079 --> 01:19:00.399
me where he allows us to take lives. Did you

1268
01:19:00.520 --> 01:19:04.479
know that a recent question was posed to one thousand

1269
01:19:04.600 --> 01:19:10.199
and fifty eight biologists that asked when life actually began?

1270
01:19:12.279 --> 01:19:19.119
Ninety six percent said at conception or fertilization. We should

1271
01:19:19.119 --> 01:19:25.119
clap our hands. Science is finally catching up to God.

1272
01:19:26.119 --> 01:19:26.479
This one.

1273
01:19:28.439 --> 01:19:31.720
I'd like to see that study. I'd like to see

1274
01:19:31.720 --> 01:19:35.279
that study. I wish I could find it. I wish

1275
01:19:35.279 --> 01:19:37.560
I could find it. I wish you would cite. The source.

1276
01:19:39.199 --> 01:19:42.680
Was put out by the National Library of Medicine. This

1277
01:19:42.880 --> 01:19:46.000
information was given to the public so that they could

1278
01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:55.159
make informed decisions on reproduction. Wow, at least they're giving

1279
01:19:55.239 --> 01:19:57.960
us some data. In the church, we said, well, we

1280
01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:01.680
can't follow this one because this one is going to

1281
01:20:01.720 --> 01:20:07.199
allow for more deaths of babies than that one. I'm

1282
01:20:07.239 --> 01:20:09.840
not sure where we get this line of thought. It's

1283
01:20:09.840 --> 01:20:13.840
not from the Word of God. However, the Word of

1284
01:20:13.840 --> 01:20:18.960
God has an even higher standard than any biologist, and

1285
01:20:19.039 --> 01:20:25.800
this standard has been in place for millennia. Levitgos eighteen

1286
01:20:25.880 --> 01:20:29.720
twenty one says the following about the sacrifice of children.

1287
01:20:30.399 --> 01:20:33.920
You shall not give any of your children to offer

1288
01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:42.159
them to Mullik none zero, goose egg none. But we've

1289
01:20:42.199 --> 01:20:45.000
got to vote for the lesser of two evils. Right

1290
01:20:46.239 --> 01:20:48.199
where in the scripture do we see this?

1291
01:20:50.760 --> 01:20:54.239
I tried to find what he said the library that

1292
01:20:54.439 --> 01:20:58.960
question in and what I found simply was the question

1293
01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:03.000
of when life begins, the complex one involving biological, philosophical, ethical,

1294
01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:06.479
and sometimes religious perspectives. From a biological standpoint, here's a

1295
01:21:06.479 --> 01:21:08.800
closer look at the argument that life begins at conception

1296
01:21:09.119 --> 01:21:13.279
and some scientific contexts that can frame questions post biologists

1297
01:21:13.279 --> 01:21:18.239
who would hold this view. All right, so then this

1298
01:21:18.319 --> 01:21:22.119
here's some of the questions. What biological markers specifically indicate

1299
01:21:22.159 --> 01:21:24.479
that life has begun at conception? And how are these

1300
01:21:24.520 --> 01:21:27.960
distinct from subsequent developmental stages. How do you reconcile the

1301
01:21:27.960 --> 01:21:31.399
concept of potential life with actualized life when discussing life

1302
01:21:31.399 --> 01:21:34.720
at conception? Does potential alone make something alive? And the

1303
01:21:34.760 --> 01:21:38.359
full biological sense? Giving the complexity of human development? And

1304
01:21:39.520 --> 01:21:43.800
any are there any additional criteria beyond genetic uniqueness that

1305
01:21:43.880 --> 01:21:46.920
you believe are necessary to define life biologically? How do

1306
01:21:46.960 --> 01:21:50.640
you address the occurrence of early natural terminations like miscarriages

1307
01:21:50.880 --> 01:21:53.159
and relation to the view that life begins at conception?

1308
01:21:53.560 --> 01:21:58.119
And are there other points in human development, such as implement, implement, implantation,

1309
01:21:58.800 --> 01:22:01.600
or the onset of detect bring activity that you think

1310
01:22:01.640 --> 01:22:04.880
should equally or more strongly define the beginning of life? Right,

1311
01:22:05.119 --> 01:22:08.079
So it goes into a lot of those very much

1312
01:22:08.119 --> 01:22:11.439
more complex issues. So I don't know exactly which, like, well,

1313
01:22:11.520 --> 01:22:14.199
ninety eight percent said this, ninety eight percent out of

1314
01:22:14.239 --> 01:22:18.560
a thousand something, When was this done? Okay? So I

1315
01:22:18.560 --> 01:22:20.600
don't know. I don't know. We didn't get very far

1316
01:22:21.439 --> 01:22:24.399
into finding that out, Okay, But he's he's opposed to

1317
01:22:24.560 --> 01:22:28.479
choosing a candidate, of choosing the lesser evil. He's opposed

1318
01:22:28.479 --> 01:22:30.640
to that. So it seems like he's basically saying, the

1319
01:22:30.680 --> 01:22:32.680
standard they have to meet is the standard. If they

1320
01:22:32.680 --> 01:22:35.319
don't meet that standard, then don't vote. That seems to

1321
01:22:35.359 --> 01:22:36.520
be the direction he's going.

1322
01:22:41.960 --> 01:22:45.000
But the scripture does tell us once again, you shall

1323
01:22:45.039 --> 01:22:48.000
not give any of your children to offer them to

1324
01:22:48.199 --> 01:22:50.840
Moloch and so profane the name of your God. I

1325
01:22:50.880 --> 01:22:53.880
am the Lord. Well, Larry, you might say he gave

1326
01:22:53.960 --> 01:22:57.479
that the national Israel. It's okay to slaughter children, now,

1327
01:22:58.039 --> 01:23:04.960
at least slaughter some. No, it is not perish the thought.

1328
01:23:05.640 --> 01:23:10.119
We're going to choose between slaughtering some and not the other.

1329
01:23:10.560 --> 01:23:18.800
How do we choose between the two? Boy, this makes

1330
01:23:18.840 --> 01:23:25.520
me weep that we would compromise as a church as

1331
01:23:25.600 --> 01:23:32.079
we are doing. How can one in good conscience vote

1332
01:23:32.079 --> 01:23:37.319
for an individual who will allow for any abortions. You

1333
01:23:37.399 --> 01:23:40.920
may say that, well, one candidate will allow for less,

1334
01:23:41.600 --> 01:23:46.560
but they are still promoting evil. Let's go back earlier

1335
01:23:46.600 --> 01:23:49.960
in the sermon, I read the following from one Peter

1336
01:23:50.079 --> 01:23:54.079
three twelve. For the eyes of the Lord are on

1337
01:23:54.199 --> 01:23:57.640
the righteous, and his ears are inclined to their prayer.

1338
01:23:58.680 --> 01:24:01.399
But the face of the Lord is against those who

1339
01:24:01.439 --> 01:24:07.279
do evil, who can harm you if you are zealous

1340
01:24:07.279 --> 01:24:09.840
for what is good.

1341
01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:13.960
It's sounding like he's basically saying at this point you

1342
01:24:13.960 --> 01:24:16.640
shouldn't vote for anyone. He's basically what he's going to say.

1343
01:24:16.800 --> 01:24:18.399
So I may try to fast forward here and see

1344
01:24:18.399 --> 01:24:22.159
if we get to some kind of dogmatic declaration here

1345
01:24:22.199 --> 01:24:24.720
in the end. But just if we're going to use

1346
01:24:24.760 --> 01:24:28.800
Exodus eighteen as the standard, right, I would just show

1347
01:24:28.800 --> 01:24:31.319
you if we're going to use Exodus eighteen, it would

1348
01:24:31.319 --> 01:24:35.720
be clearly shown that Donald Trump's actions and words would

1349
01:24:35.800 --> 01:24:39.960
go against these biblical principles. Indeed, some aspects of his

1350
01:24:40.079 --> 01:24:46.079
behavior appear to contrast significantly with the qualities outline in

1351
01:24:46.079 --> 01:24:51.720
Exodus eighteen. Fear of God moral accountability. Jethro's advice prioritizes

1352
01:24:51.800 --> 01:24:55.399
leaders who have a reverent fear of God grounded in

1353
01:24:55.479 --> 01:24:59.760
their actions in humility and moral accountability. Trump's approach, often

1354
01:24:59.800 --> 01:25:03.760
mark by self promotion and dismissive language towards opponents, may

1355
01:25:03.800 --> 01:25:07.159
seem inconsistent with a sense of humility or accountability to God.

1356
01:25:07.399 --> 01:25:10.520
A leader who fears God seeks to align with values

1357
01:25:10.560 --> 01:25:14.880
of compassion, forgiveness, integrity, qualities that are not always evident

1358
01:25:14.920 --> 01:25:20.640
in Trump's public rhetoric and actions. Trustworthiness. The value of

1359
01:25:20.680 --> 01:25:24.439
integrity implies a consistent, honest and commitment to truth. Trump's

1360
01:25:24.439 --> 01:25:27.760
track record includes a substantial number of fact checked statements

1361
01:25:27.760 --> 01:25:30.359
found to be false or misleading. This has raised concerns

1362
01:25:30.359 --> 01:25:33.359
about his reliability as a truthful leader, which is integral

1363
01:25:33.359 --> 01:25:37.800
to trustworthiness. Integrity also involves consistency between words and actions.

1364
01:25:38.119 --> 01:25:41.920
Discrepancies between Trump's promises and actions may further conflict with

1365
01:25:42.159 --> 01:25:48.159
this value hatred or dishonest gain. Jethro advises that leaders

1366
01:25:48.319 --> 01:25:52.199
avoid personal enrichment at the expense of their responsibility to

1367
01:25:52.239 --> 01:25:55.600
the people. Trump's business dealings, both during and outside of office,

1368
01:25:55.680 --> 01:25:58.199
have sparked questions about conflicts of interest and where the

1369
01:25:58.239 --> 01:26:01.840
personal financial gain influenced his decisions. Leaders and leaders in

1370
01:26:01.880 --> 01:26:04.960
line with the biblical criteria focus on serving the people

1371
01:26:05.760 --> 01:26:09.840
and the people's good rather than pursuing their own profit

1372
01:26:10.079 --> 01:26:13.439
or status. And I could continue on even AI's like, wait,

1373
01:26:13.600 --> 01:26:17.319
there's a conflict here, and ladies and gentlemen everyone would

1374
01:26:17.319 --> 01:26:19.760
have to admit that there is a conflict here. Everyone

1375
01:26:19.840 --> 01:26:22.640
would have to admit that there's not even a dispute there.

1376
01:26:22.640 --> 01:26:25.960
There's not even a debate. So what he's putting forth

1377
01:26:26.039 --> 01:26:33.880
basically is a civil leaders. Political leaders are servants, they

1378
01:26:33.920 --> 01:26:38.000
are ministers, and they are to be men who meet

1379
01:26:38.039 --> 01:26:41.760
these criteria. And basically they have to be held as

1380
01:26:42.680 --> 01:26:44.760
to the standard of a servant of God, as a

1381
01:26:44.800 --> 01:26:47.199
minister of God. That's what they have to be held

1382
01:26:47.199 --> 01:26:50.840
to the standard of That's basically his approach. And you

1383
01:26:50.880 --> 01:26:54.359
don't vote for the lesser of two evils. So I

1384
01:26:54.600 --> 01:26:56.800
don't know if he's going to say vote or don't vote.

1385
01:26:57.239 --> 01:26:58.520
Let's see what he says here.

1386
01:27:04.000 --> 01:27:08.680
Once again, Peter says, the face of the Lord is

1387
01:27:08.760 --> 01:27:15.359
against those who do evil. Would we all agree that

1388
01:27:15.399 --> 01:27:22.079
the slaughter of children is evil? No matter whether it's

1389
01:27:22.119 --> 01:27:26.600
done in the first trimester, second trimester, third trimester, or

1390
01:27:26.640 --> 01:27:34.560
after birth, it's evil. How can we choose an individual

1391
01:27:35.640 --> 01:27:42.279
who is promoting evil? Well, I you know I'll only

1392
01:27:42.319 --> 01:27:47.319
allow for it in the first trimester. You're still allowing

1393
01:27:47.520 --> 01:27:54.359
for it. This slaughter of innocent children is evil. Why

1394
01:27:54.359 --> 01:27:58.840
don't we hold accountable Mom and Dad or why don't

1395
01:27:58.880 --> 01:28:01.479
we hear more from the Hope. It's in regard to

1396
01:28:01.520 --> 01:28:07.600
this young ladies, you need to keep your legs closed

1397
01:28:08.079 --> 01:28:13.800
until you are married. To be brutally honest, we need

1398
01:28:13.840 --> 01:28:16.840
to hear this from the pulpit. We need dads moms

1399
01:28:16.880 --> 01:28:20.720
to rise up and keep their children accountable.

1400
01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:27.880
Why was the responsibility put on the woman? I wouldn't

1401
01:28:27.960 --> 01:28:30.439
men have a responsibility in this as well?

1402
01:28:30.720 --> 01:28:31.000
Well?

1403
01:28:31.199 --> 01:28:34.399
I mean that was kind of a very explicit way

1404
01:28:34.399 --> 01:28:36.560
of telling I mean, why would you state it that way?

1405
01:28:36.600 --> 01:28:40.399
Why would you just say to everyone involved that, you know,

1406
01:28:40.760 --> 01:28:45.199
bringing life into the world is a huge thing and

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01:28:45.239 --> 01:28:50.720
a huge responsibility, and there's major implications from it. It

1408
01:28:50.800 --> 01:28:53.680
takes two like why would why was it?

1409
01:28:53.840 --> 01:28:54.039
Hey?

1410
01:28:54.079 --> 01:28:57.760
Women, you you do that? Where's the where's the responsibility

1411
01:28:57.760 --> 01:29:01.199
for the men? What what just happened there? And why

1412
01:29:01.319 --> 01:29:04.880
is every it isn't notice that Christianity, everything is always

1413
01:29:04.920 --> 01:29:08.319
reduced to just one issue, just abortion. Every other issue

1414
01:29:08.319 --> 01:29:13.439
becomes just ignored. But it's not that simple, like if

1415
01:29:13.439 --> 01:29:16.560
you reduce it to just one issue, to me, I

1416
01:29:16.840 --> 01:29:19.000
don't understand how you can just reduce it to one issue.

1417
01:29:19.000 --> 01:29:21.079
So well, that issue is the most important. It may be.

1418
01:29:21.520 --> 01:29:24.880
But it's a very complicated issue, is it not. And

1419
01:29:24.920 --> 01:29:28.439
I say, well, how is it complicated? It's complicated because, well,

1420
01:29:28.600 --> 01:29:33.039
we live in a society like as a country, where

1421
01:29:33.359 --> 01:29:36.159
ultimately the people will make the decision, right, the people.

1422
01:29:36.479 --> 01:29:39.279
This is what I said about gay marriage. Way years

1423
01:29:39.319 --> 01:29:41.039
I told everyone it was going to become legal. I

1424
01:29:41.039 --> 01:29:42.960
told everyone, I said, you can fight it. You can

1425
01:29:42.960 --> 01:29:44.720
fight it, you can yell, you can scream, it's going

1426
01:29:44.760 --> 01:29:46.800
to become legal. You know why it's going to become legal,

1427
01:29:47.000 --> 01:29:50.760
because that's ultimately what the people want, the same thing you,

1428
01:29:50.920 --> 01:29:53.720
whatever the issue is, you can fight it. You can

1429
01:29:53.760 --> 01:29:56.840
fight it. You can fight it, and that's great that

1430
01:29:56.920 --> 01:29:59.720
you fight it, but it's a losing battle if you're

1431
01:29:59.720 --> 01:30:04.359
not changing the hearts and minds of the people, because

1432
01:30:04.399 --> 01:30:07.760
the people will ultimately decide. Once the majority and a

1433
01:30:08.359 --> 01:30:11.239
governmental system that's by the people for the people, the

1434
01:30:11.279 --> 01:30:14.359
people will ultimately decide. So you can push back on

1435
01:30:14.920 --> 01:30:18.560
you know, abortion, but if enough people are like, sorry,

1436
01:30:18.760 --> 01:30:21.640
we disagree with you, then guess what, ladies and gentlemen,

1437
01:30:22.920 --> 01:30:25.079
Sooner or later, they're going to vote the very thing

1438
01:30:25.119 --> 01:30:29.760
you're fighting again and to law. They're going to repeal.

1439
01:30:29.880 --> 01:30:32.880
They're going to throw off what you're trying to restrict.

1440
01:30:33.079 --> 01:30:37.000
They're going to push back. You've got to change the

1441
01:30:37.039 --> 01:30:39.720
hearts and minds of the people. That's why the biblical

1442
01:30:39.720 --> 01:30:45.079
approach is not about voting. The Biblical approach is evangelize, baptize,

1443
01:30:45.439 --> 01:30:49.439
and then teach. Then you teach about life, the sanctity

1444
01:30:49.479 --> 01:30:53.760
of life. You teach that. Now, the more people who

1445
01:30:54.079 --> 01:30:58.159
acknowledge that and accept that, well then you don't have

1446
01:30:58.239 --> 01:31:00.720
to even worry about it because the people themselves, well

1447
01:31:00.720 --> 01:31:03.319
what less people will be engaged in said activity, at

1448
01:31:03.399 --> 01:31:06.760
least hopefully because I mean obviously even Christians can there's

1449
01:31:06.760 --> 01:31:09.199
not a sin a Christian can't commit, all right, So

1450
01:31:10.079 --> 01:31:14.239
but yeah, I I like, I just don't know. And

1451
01:31:14.560 --> 01:31:16.720
when you look at politics and you look at you

1452
01:31:16.840 --> 01:31:19.119
vote for, you're just going to be one issue. That's

1453
01:31:19.159 --> 01:31:21.960
all it's going to matter. Every other issues are relevant. Well,

1454
01:31:22.079 --> 01:31:26.359
well this is this is a sin, Well what about this, this, this, this, this,

1455
01:31:26.560 --> 01:31:29.279
there's about fifteen other things. So now this sin Trump's

1456
01:31:29.279 --> 01:31:33.800
that's all the all the different issues. Let's I think

1457
01:31:33.840 --> 01:31:35.520
what he's just going to say is we don't vote

1458
01:31:35.520 --> 01:31:37.199
for anybody. I think is what he's going to say.

1459
01:31:41.159 --> 01:31:46.600
Why because they love them personally. I choose to be

1460
01:31:46.800 --> 01:31:49.680
zealous for what is good, and I think we would

1461
01:31:49.720 --> 01:31:54.039
all surmise that abortion is evil. If this is true,

1462
01:31:54.119 --> 01:31:58.520
how can one in good conscience once again vote for

1463
01:31:58.640 --> 01:32:03.119
one who determines to evil by encouraging the slaughter of

1464
01:32:03.239 --> 01:32:09.560
babies at any age? This would make me an accomplished

1465
01:32:10.039 --> 01:32:14.760
to a crime of which I understand would be displeasing

1466
01:32:14.840 --> 01:32:18.880
to the Lord, and therefore I cannot. I have no

1467
01:32:19.000 --> 01:32:22.880
desire for the blood of the most innocent individual on

1468
01:32:22.920 --> 01:32:26.560
the planet to be on my hands. Maybe you do,

1469
01:32:27.359 --> 01:32:31.359
maybe you yawn, Well, it's just it's just a first trimester.

1470
01:32:33.760 --> 01:32:37.000
We should be weeping as a country in regard to

1471
01:32:37.039 --> 01:32:44.159
what is happening. However, so the narrative goes that the

1472
01:32:44.159 --> 01:32:47.840
good Christian must vote the Republican ballot because their candidate

1473
01:32:48.239 --> 01:32:51.880
may be evil in some ways, but that woman, well,

1474
01:32:52.000 --> 01:32:57.840
she is eviler. She is an evilist. However you want

1475
01:32:57.840 --> 01:33:04.039
to put it. This is nonsense, but most Christians buy

1476
01:33:04.279 --> 01:33:09.760
in to this nonsense. I think we can all imagine

1477
01:33:09.800 --> 01:33:13.880
where this life is not precious kind of thought process

1478
01:33:14.000 --> 01:33:18.800
is going. Let me explain. Let's flip the birthing process

1479
01:33:18.880 --> 01:33:22.800
to the end of life dying process. In this scenario,

1480
01:33:23.079 --> 01:33:27.199
we find that our country is terribly overpopulated, and thus

1481
01:33:27.239 --> 01:33:30.479
we need to pass laws at all levels to eradicate

1482
01:33:30.640 --> 01:33:35.319
our overpopulation. You may ask, well, what are our targets?

1483
01:33:35.600 --> 01:33:36.880
Who are we going to get rid of?

1484
01:33:39.720 --> 01:33:41.239
Okay, so now he's going to move to kind of

1485
01:33:41.239 --> 01:33:43.560
the slippery slope. Where is it going to end. I'm

1486
01:33:43.600 --> 01:33:46.239
going to fast forward this and see if we can

1487
01:33:46.279 --> 01:33:48.439
get to the end. I think he's making it very

1488
01:33:48.439 --> 01:33:50.840
clear that we can't vote for anybody. I'm going to

1489
01:33:50.920 --> 01:33:54.159
go here about eight minutes left, maybe in the sea,

1490
01:33:54.319 --> 01:33:55.840
if he offers anything else.

1491
01:33:56.720 --> 01:34:00.199
And then say, well it's you know, it's not right.

1492
01:34:00.319 --> 01:34:05.960
But you know we're going to say some rubbish. When

1493
01:34:06.000 --> 01:34:12.279
will we stop this compromise? The second myth I want

1494
01:34:12.319 --> 01:34:14.880
to address is a statement, I am not voting for

1495
01:34:14.920 --> 01:34:19.399
a pastor. I am voting for a president. Thus the

1496
01:34:19.479 --> 01:34:23.239
pastor must be upstanding in his character, but the civil

1497
01:34:23.279 --> 01:34:27.319
magistrate not. So you know, he could be a goof.

1498
01:34:27.840 --> 01:34:31.439
You know, he could be a sexual man maniac. Who cares.

1499
01:34:34.039 --> 01:34:37.439
I believe this is a statement with no biblical footing.

1500
01:34:38.560 --> 01:34:41.880
I heard John MacArthur recently make the statement that he

1501
01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:45.359
is not voting for a pastor in chief, but he

1502
01:34:45.479 --> 01:34:51.119
is voting for a president. But as I mentioned earlier

1503
01:34:51.159 --> 01:34:56.560
in my sermon, pastor and civil magistrate are both servants

1504
01:34:56.800 --> 01:35:00.199
under God according to scripture, and they both must do

1505
01:35:00.439 --> 01:35:07.199
as God commands, no difference in my estimation. They both

1506
01:35:07.279 --> 01:35:11.720
must exercise fear of God and be of impeccable character.

1507
01:35:12.720 --> 01:35:16.880
As Moses was commissioned to look for people who are capable,

1508
01:35:17.680 --> 01:35:22.000
they feared God, they won't accept a bribe. Why should

1509
01:35:22.039 --> 01:35:30.680
we do any different. Has God's principles changed? It's okay,

1510
01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:38.840
civil magistrate no longer needs to fear God, kiss the sun.

1511
01:35:39.239 --> 01:35:44.840
Sam two says, unless he be angry with you. And

1512
01:35:44.920 --> 01:35:50.199
this is spoken to the rulers, the rulers of every

1513
01:35:50.279 --> 01:35:51.199
nation on earth.

1514
01:35:53.680 --> 01:35:56.560
Yeah, he's making a good argument that you should just

1515
01:35:56.640 --> 01:35:59.079
not vote, because there's no way you can take these

1516
01:35:59.079 --> 01:36:02.079
biblical standards and vote in our political climate. There's just

1517
01:36:02.119 --> 01:36:05.359
no way. So then there's no point in voting, and

1518
01:36:05.439 --> 01:36:07.119
just live out your Christian life. That seems to be

1519
01:36:07.159 --> 01:36:09.840
the argument he's making. Now. I never make a philological

1520
01:36:09.960 --> 01:36:13.319
argument about voting and try to justify my not voting.

1521
01:36:13.560 --> 01:36:16.199
I just say, look, the whole system is corrupt. I

1522
01:36:16.239 --> 01:36:18.199
don't like any of it, and I'm just going to

1523
01:36:18.279 --> 01:36:20.359
live out my Christian life. I'm not a citizen here

1524
01:36:20.479 --> 01:36:23.760
per se. I'm a citizen in heaven. I'm a pilgrim here.

1525
01:36:23.760 --> 01:36:25.439
I'm a stranger here. I kind of make it from

1526
01:36:25.479 --> 01:36:29.000
that argument. He's making a very sound biblical argument that

1527
01:36:29.039 --> 01:36:31.720
if you truly hold the biblical standards, and if you

1528
01:36:31.760 --> 01:36:34.600
take Diacinos and the civil leader, and he's a servant

1529
01:36:34.600 --> 01:36:37.319
of God and has to be impeccable character, then you

1530
01:36:37.359 --> 01:36:39.760
can't use this argument. I'm not voting for a pastor.

1531
01:36:39.880 --> 01:36:43.479
It's just biblically an incoherent argument, and you're not being

1532
01:36:43.479 --> 01:36:47.199
philologically sound. Well, then at that point, you got no

1533
01:36:47.239 --> 01:36:49.199
one to vote for. You got no when to vote.

1534
01:36:49.039 --> 01:36:59.399
For the rulers that Christ is now currently placing under

1535
01:36:59.640 --> 01:37:08.319
his feet. Why do we compromise? Why do we not

1536
01:37:08.680 --> 01:37:13.960
follow God? Why do we not exercise what the word

1537
01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:19.439
of God says? You know, if you think about Paul,

1538
01:37:20.880 --> 01:37:25.039
he went in Herod's face, confronted him on his sin.

1539
01:37:26.359 --> 01:37:30.039
Jesus did the same with Pilot, and Moses did the

1540
01:37:30.079 --> 01:37:35.800
same with Pharaoh. And you're telling me we can't do

1541
01:37:35.920 --> 01:37:41.720
that today. Are you telling me that these powers around

1542
01:37:41.720 --> 01:37:53.039
the world are not under the authority of Christ the King? Rubbish.

1543
01:37:53.520 --> 01:37:58.680
The third myth is incrementalism will eventually get us to

1544
01:37:58.720 --> 01:38:03.680
where we want to be. This is severe compromise, for

1545
01:38:03.760 --> 01:38:07.880
one is not even considering. Thus says the Lord when

1546
01:38:07.880 --> 01:38:12.079
he makes such a statement. We get our margining orders

1547
01:38:12.079 --> 01:38:16.920
from the word of God, not from some exterior source.

1548
01:38:16.960 --> 01:38:19.680
It says, all, let's just keep moving forward and the

1549
01:38:19.720 --> 01:38:25.199
same thing that we're doing, we'll get there someday. Yeah. Well,

1550
01:38:25.239 --> 01:38:33.720
it's been fifty years since Roe v. Wade, and you

1551
01:38:33.760 --> 01:38:37.000
know when Roe v. Wade was overturned, what did we do.

1552
01:38:37.640 --> 01:38:43.239
We just took the the authority off the books as

1553
01:38:43.279 --> 01:38:47.560
far as federal authority is concerned in regard to abortion,

1554
01:38:47.720 --> 01:38:51.039
we gave it to the states. And now we've got

1555
01:38:51.439 --> 01:38:59.239
tyrannical leaders doing the same thing as the federal government

1556
01:38:59.560 --> 01:39:07.560
used to. We have legislation that has been written to

1557
01:39:07.800 --> 01:39:18.439
enshrine abortion in certain states constitutions. So basically, we've taken

1558
01:39:18.479 --> 01:39:27.199
the decision from one tyrant to many tyrants and given

1559
01:39:27.279 --> 01:39:28.560
it to many tyrants.

1560
01:39:30.479 --> 01:39:33.640
And just to back up what I said earlier, this

1561
01:39:33.720 --> 01:39:38.199
is from twenty twenty four, August, abortions continue to rise

1562
01:39:38.239 --> 01:39:41.800
across the United States due to better access to care

1563
01:39:41.960 --> 01:39:45.000
via telehealth, even as states push new restrictions and total

1564
01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:47.239
abortion bands. In the wake of the Supreme Court decision

1565
01:39:47.479 --> 01:39:52.319
overturning Roe v. Wade Right, there were more than one

1566
01:39:52.399 --> 01:39:55.239
hundred thousand abortions in the US and January twenty four,

1567
01:39:55.840 --> 01:39:59.199
twenty twenty four, the highest monthly rate since the study began.

1568
01:40:00.119 --> 01:40:05.000
So abortions are going up, not down. Exactly what I

1569
01:40:05.039 --> 01:40:07.720
told you would happen. I told you would not. I

1570
01:40:07.800 --> 01:40:10.680
told you Roe Vwaight would not. I told you it

1571
01:40:10.720 --> 01:40:15.000
would not because people misunderstand things. Right. You can try

1572
01:40:15.039 --> 01:40:18.119
to regulate and morality as much as you want, but

1573
01:40:18.199 --> 01:40:21.680
if the people want something, ultimately, they're going to get

1574
01:40:21.680 --> 01:40:23.720
it no matter how much you fight against it. We

1575
01:40:23.840 --> 01:40:26.319
fought we all as Christians. When you start trying to

1576
01:40:26.359 --> 01:40:29.479
fight these battles politically, you're going against the very way

1577
01:40:29.520 --> 01:40:33.159
the Scriptures tells us to fight against these concepts. Sorry, so,

1578
01:40:33.199 --> 01:40:35.720
but even he acknowledges that. All right, so this is

1579
01:40:35.720 --> 01:40:38.399
almost over. I know we're well over, you know, an hour,

1580
01:40:38.479 --> 01:40:41.640
But you know that's okay. Let's let's see what he

1581
01:40:41.720 --> 01:40:43.920
has to say here this has been a very interesting discussion.

1582
01:40:43.920 --> 01:40:45.520
Hopefully you found it interesting as well.

1583
01:40:48.119 --> 01:40:50.800
The Lord calls us to follow his ways, not to

1584
01:40:50.880 --> 01:40:54.800
follow the crowd if we think it is expedient to

1585
01:40:54.840 --> 01:40:59.399
do so. No compromise of his word is God's way.

1586
01:40:59.680 --> 01:41:03.159
And if both candidates determined to do evil, then find

1587
01:41:03.199 --> 01:41:07.359
a different candidate from our camp to vote for. The

1588
01:41:07.439 --> 01:41:10.439
sorry truth is that if good Christian men were to

1589
01:41:10.560 --> 01:41:15.199
rise up who held fast to biblical principles they were

1590
01:41:15.279 --> 01:41:20.640
capable of governing, they wouldn't receive a bride. We as

1591
01:41:20.680 --> 01:41:23.640
a Christian voting bloc, would not vote for him because

1592
01:41:23.680 --> 01:41:27.279
he would have no opportunity to win because we are

1593
01:41:27.319 --> 01:41:36.520
a two party system. But this thinking is so shallow.

1594
01:41:38.680 --> 01:41:47.760
Why Well, in regard to incrementalism or being an incrementalist,

1595
01:41:47.960 --> 01:41:51.840
I would say I am, but in a different fashion.

1596
01:41:53.079 --> 01:41:57.319
Imagine if in nineteen seventy six, after Roe v. Wade,

1597
01:41:57.680 --> 01:42:01.319
we supported and voted for a Christian man who held

1598
01:42:01.439 --> 01:42:08.520
fast to biblical principles. You may say, yeah, so this.

1599
01:42:08.600 --> 01:42:11.880
Also raises some serious issues, right, Okay, First of all,

1600
01:42:12.079 --> 01:42:14.840
I mean the way church attendance is declining and we're

1601
01:42:14.840 --> 01:42:18.199
becoming a less and less Christian nation. If you find

1602
01:42:18.239 --> 01:42:21.199
some candidate out there is like I will impose basically

1603
01:42:21.279 --> 01:42:24.479
scripture upon everyone, They're never going to get elected. That's

1604
01:42:24.520 --> 01:42:30.399
a fact. Number two. This becomes another issue in a country, right,

1605
01:42:30.800 --> 01:42:34.199
that's pluralistic, right, unless you're trying to create some level

1606
01:42:34.239 --> 01:42:36.960
of theocracy. See, that's the problem with taking the Exodus

1607
01:42:36.960 --> 01:42:40.039
eighteen passage and applying it to our political system. Unless

1608
01:42:40.039 --> 01:42:42.399
you want a theocratic system, unless you want some kind

1609
01:42:42.399 --> 01:42:46.239
of theocratic monarchy where one person stands up and goes,

1610
01:42:46.479 --> 01:42:50.880
I am going to impose the scripture upon everyone. Well,

1611
01:42:50.920 --> 01:42:55.760
then then what do I don't want that? Nobody wants that, right,

1612
01:42:55.800 --> 01:42:58.079
because guess what happens if you go with that direction.

1613
01:42:58.119 --> 01:43:00.720
Then what if a Catholic becomes the president, right, and like,

1614
01:43:00.800 --> 01:43:04.359
I'm going to impose my understanding of scripture and church

1615
01:43:04.520 --> 01:43:07.359
on everyone, So we're getting rid of every church that's

1616
01:43:07.399 --> 01:43:12.920
not Catholic and what So that's the problem. You have

1617
01:43:13.000 --> 01:43:16.560
to be able to govern and impluralistic society where people

1618
01:43:16.600 --> 01:43:19.800
then can still maintain freedom. Right, So Baptists can be Baptists,

1619
01:43:19.880 --> 01:43:23.039
Lutherans can be Lutherans. That like you've got to If

1620
01:43:23.039 --> 01:43:28.079
you don't do that, then you create a very authoritarian

1621
01:43:28.439 --> 01:43:31.239
type system where one person is going to impose everything

1622
01:43:31.319 --> 01:43:34.159
upon everyone else. And that's see, that's I don't think

1623
01:43:34.199 --> 01:43:36.800
that works from a governmental perspective. I know, it sounds

1624
01:43:36.800 --> 01:43:38.600
so good Biblically, We're going to get a man in

1625
01:43:38.640 --> 01:43:41.159
there who's going to do things God's way, and he's

1626
01:43:41.199 --> 01:43:42.920
going to pass this law and do this, and do

1627
01:43:43.000 --> 01:43:47.039
this and do this. Okay, well it sounds great. What

1628
01:43:47.159 --> 01:43:50.399
about the people are not Christians and what if the

1629
01:43:50.399 --> 01:43:53.359
person becomes who takes over as a Christian that's not

1630
01:43:53.439 --> 01:44:00.239
in line with your Christianity. So his argument is, we

1631
01:44:00.359 --> 01:44:03.079
don't vote for we only vote for people who basically

1632
01:44:04.039 --> 01:44:07.600
or well the kind of Christian I guess that he

1633
01:44:07.680 --> 01:44:08.319
would support.

1634
01:44:08.520 --> 01:44:08.760
Got it.

1635
01:44:09.479 --> 01:44:13.079
Yeah, it just becomes very problematic. So I don't know

1636
01:44:13.119 --> 01:44:15.359
how you want to I don't want Look, if you

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take Exodus eighteen as the standard. Sorry, I'm going to

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focus on Donald Trump since that's where conservative churches tend

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to go to, it doesn't work. He goes after either

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MacArthur's statement, I'm not voting for a pastor, I'm voting

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for a president, so therefore I don't need to hold

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them to the same standard. So even MacArthur is saying,

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I'm going to compromise the standard. He's arguing that that

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doesn't work scripturally because the word for a civil leader

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as Minister Diacinos, it's the same Greek word, and that

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it doesn't work. So therefore they have to be held

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to the same standard. What if they are held to

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the same standard, then he's right. If you follow his logic,

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he's right, then you can only vote for a candidate

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that meets the biblical standard. Whether we lose every single

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we do so out of principle. So unless there is

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a strong Christian candidate. Now my fear though for him

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that perspective is that he would want them that Christian

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candidate to basically impose Christianity upon a non Christian world,

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which is never Yeah, then there's all kinds of problems

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with that. All right, that's one example of how Christians

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are looking at today. No, remember the fifth, twenty twenty

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four election day here in the United States of America.

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What do you think about this perspective? All right, I'm

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not going to wrap it up in any I was

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going to go back to the song that we started

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with and all that, but we're well over the time

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that I thought that this would take, but it was

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very interesting. You've heard lots of different thoughts, lots of

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different perspectives. You can well struggle with it, and you

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can justify your action or any action today, who you're

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voting for, who you're not voting for, and well, let's

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just hope it all ends and the church can get

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back to being the church. Thanks for listening, God bless