Feb. 18, 2025
Does Grace Enable?
A discussion about grace.
A discussion about grace.
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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is
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the Theology Central podcast, making Theology Central. Should be quiet, guys, guys, guys,
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be quiet, Be quiet. All right.
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I'm sneaking out of chapel service. I'm sneaking out of
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chapel service. I know chapel service is still going on,
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but I got to talk to you, right So I'm
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sneaking out.
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All right.
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I'm at Ambassador Baptist College right now, and chapel service
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is going on, and I just snuck out of chapel service.
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We got to talk about what I just heard. We
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have to talk about it. We have to talk about it.
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All right.
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Are you ready to do that? So here's the question.
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Here's the question.
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Does Grace and Abel? Does Grace in able? Now?
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Yes, I'm out here in the hallway of the chapel service,
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but I'm just gonna go ahead and do our proper introduction.
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Good morning everyone.
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Okay, sh I gotta keep it down, Keep it down.
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Good morning everyone. It is Tuesday, February eighteenth, twenty twenty five.
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It is currently ten oh nine am Central time, and
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I'm coming to you live well from Ambassador Baptist College,
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from the hallway. Okay, okay, Actually I'm coming to you
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live from the Theology Central Studio located here in Abilene, Texas.
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But virtually I was attending chapel service at Ambassador Baptist College,
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and yeah, I did sneak out.
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I had had.
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To end it before before they were finished, because.
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We've got to talk.
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We have to talk about something I heard in chapel.
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And I was going to wait until they upload the
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sermon and we'll try to review it, but we've got
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to talk about it right now.
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I couldn't wait. I couldn't wait to get back. I
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couldn't wait to get back to the studio. I had
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to just go to the hallway and talk about it. Now.
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They're gonna all get med at me when they come
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out hearing me talking about them, But don't tell anyone, right. Wait,
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So first I'm gonna read a scripture Ephesians chapter two,
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Ephesians chapter two. Let's start in verse eight. Ephesians chapter two,
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verse eight. Everyone knows this verse, all right, you can
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quote it from memory. Ephesians chapter two, verse eight.
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Four.
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By grace, for by grace are ye saved through faith?
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And that not of yourselves. It is the gift of God.
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Now there's a lot here. We could take a part
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in this verse. Of course, the very next verse, verse nine,
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not of works lest any man should boast. But for
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by grace are ye saved? We are say, by grace
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through faith. Now, what is your understanding of that grace
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that saves you? Do you understand it's God's unmerited favor?
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Do you understand it's something you cannot earn it's God's
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grace towards you?
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Or do you see grace.
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Is somehow of an enabling or empowering force. You're say,
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by grace, and that grace that saves you now empowers you.
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It gives you some ability to do something.
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If you look up the word and able.
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If you look up the word and able in fact,
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to have the definition right here. This is from an
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Oxford Language dictionary. Right and able give someone or something
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the authority or here's the key or means to do something.
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Do you believe the grace that saves you now enables
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you to do something in a practical way? Does God
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grace now does it come along enables you? It does
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something inside of you. It now gives you the ability
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to obey God. It gives you the ability to obey
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the law of God. Now, if you go back into
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philological history, that fits in perfectly with the Catholic understanding
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of a salvation by an infused righteousness. But what you
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may not realize this is, even though the Reformation occurred,
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and even though we may be like, I'm on team Reformation,
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I'm not for those stinking Catholics. The bottom line is
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in most churches you go to, they are far more
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in line with that infused righteous idea. They almost see
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grace as an enabling force and enabling power. And what
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I just heard in chapel service at Ambassador Baptist College
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was the exact words grace enables. Now exactly what he
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meant by that, We'll have to take a part, and
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we can. We'll try to review the entire message at
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some point. There was some interesting things there. There were
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maybe some even good points. But when I heard grace
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and ables.
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I'm like, okay, I gotta get up. I got Everyone
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was looking at me. I'm like, I just got to
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walk out. What do you do? I gotta go do
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a podcast.
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It's chapel service, I know, but I have to do
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a podcast, right, I have to do one right now, right.
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So I'm here in the hallway and now I almost
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want to wait, I almost want to sit here, and
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as the students walk out, say hey, come here, come here, Grace.
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When when do you understand grace is enabling? What do
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you think it enables you to do? It would be
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interesting to know what the students would say. It would
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be interesting to go to your church, stand outside when
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everyone walks out, going hey, Grace does it enable us,
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and start asking some questions. I have a feeling that
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most people in your church. I don't think anyone in
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my church would answer it this way. If they did, well,
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I'm just you know, I'm just gonna retire. But I
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think in most churches people like grace enables, it empowers,
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it strengthens. But if you go with that, are you
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not walking yourself inevitably right back into an infused righteous concept.
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So as soon as I snuck out from chapel, I
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immediately contacted artificial intelligence, because you know it's right there
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on my iPad. So I asked AI, this, should God's
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grace be defined as an enabling force or an enabling power?
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Or it enables? Right? This is what AI said. Ai says, it.
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Depends on how they are defining God's grace as enabling,
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because God's grace is if you define it or say
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that God's grace is enabling, this aligns more.
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This is what AI says. This aligns more with.
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An infused righteousness framework rather than an imputed one.
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And I was like, thank.
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You, Ai, thank you, That's what I think. Right, we're
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on the same theological page. So as like now, it
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all depends on how they're defining it. But typically if
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you say God's grace is enabling, then that aligns more
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with an infused righteousness framework rather than an imputed one.
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So just make sure we understand the two systems. Imputed
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righteousness means I put my faith in Jesus Christ.
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His obedience, his.
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Perfection is imputed to me. And why does God do
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this because of grace. I don't deserve it, I can't
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earn it, but by grace He saves me. By faith
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in Christ and in Christ, righteousness, Christ obedience is accredited
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to my account. It's not enabling me. It's declaring. It's
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a declaration. It's not an enabling it's a declaration. It's
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saying you are positionally this, which you are not practically
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in an infused righteous system. I put my faith and
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then I am infused with righteousness. I'm infused. Now I'm
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enabled internally to do something. So now I try to
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cooperate with this grace, with this righteousness. I need the
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Church to help feed it with sacraments and to strengthen it.
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And then it's me trying to live out the Christian life,
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trying to cooperate with what has been placed.
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Inside of me that is a Catholic system.
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And yet you hear pastors, Bible colleges, chapel services that
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talk more like their Roman Catholic and if you say this,
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everyone's just like, no, you just don't understand.
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They always will accuse me.
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Of not understanding, like, well, I went to school to
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get a degree in Catholic theology so that I could understand.
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In fact, it was pursuing a degree in Catholic theology
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that made me realize Protestants are far more Catholics than
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they want to pretend. They said, well, we don't pray
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to marry and we don't do this, and yeah, you
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look at some of these things to distinguish you, but
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when it gets down to the real philological heart of
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the matter, we almost abandon imputed righteousness was is what
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the entire Reformation was about. So AI goes on to
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say this, If grace is understood as something that enables
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a person to obey, to love, or to live righteously,
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then it does sound like grace is being treated as
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a substance or power infused into the believer, which is
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more in line with Catholic theology.
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Did you hear that?
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Now You've got to really think about this because I'm
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gonna put you at odds with your own church. And
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I'm not trying to put you at odds with your
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own church, I really am not. But you're gonna find
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yourself in conflict with the majority of Christianity, which is
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bizarre to me. Which you know what that tells me, Luther,
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your entire reformation failed to all the early reformers.
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You failed Catholicism one.
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Now I say that, people get so mad at me, like,
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absolutely not.
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Yes, it does. Listen to this again.
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If grace is understood as something that enables a person
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to obey, to love, or to live righteously, then it
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does sound like grace is being treated as a substance
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or power infused into the believer, which is more in
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line with Catholic theology, where grace is seen as something
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that helps believers cooperate with God and attaining righteousness.
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Wait, we are supposedly we don't think that way. We
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are saved by faith.
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We are safe through by grace, through faith in Christ. Right,
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And so what happens by faith? I put my faith
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in Christ. His obedience is imputed to me. And why
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does all of this happen because of God's unmerited favor.
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He does this not because we can earn it, but
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in fact because we cannot. There's nothing enabling. It's simply
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declaring me to be something.
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AI goes.
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In contrast, if we hold to imputed righteousness, So now
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AI is gonna like an Now if you want to go,
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if you want to stay consistent with an imputed righteousness framework,
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well then it's going to sound like this all right.
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If we hold to imputed righteousness, grace is not primarily
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an enabling but rather a declaring. So it's not enabling,
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it's declaring. And what is this declaring? It's declaring. God
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is reckgning the righteousness of Christ to the believer's account.
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And this view grace is fundamentally forensic, meaning it justifies
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ciners apart from any inherent transformation within them. We are
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declared to be something. It's a forensic justification. It's a
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we are legally declared to be something we are not.
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There is no inherent transformation, that is the imputed righteous system.
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And I say that, and Christians will be like, no,
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that's easy believism. That, no, you want to go back
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to Roman Catholicism, because within Christianity it's always got to.
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Be oooh ooh, change change, change, obedience, morality, morality, morality.
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Ai goes on to say, many Protestant traditions, especially those
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influenced by Reformation theology, emphasizes grace as unmerited favor rather.
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Than infused power.
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Okay, good, Now, if you ask Christians to define grace,
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they will say the unmerited favor of God. They almost
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always will say that, right, God's riches at Christ's expense.
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They'll go something along those lines, some kind of a
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statement like that, and it sounds so good. But when
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you start listening and you frame the question the right way,
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then all of a sudden, the curtain is pulled back
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and they will say grace enables. Grace gives us this ability,
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gives us some kind of power. So now see it's
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not I can't live the Christian life, but by grace
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I can't. God's grace enables me to do so. And
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this raises all kinds.
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Of theological problems.
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Ai goes on to say, if grace is framed as
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an enabling force at risks conflating justification with sanctification and
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making grace something that must produce righteousness within a person
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rather than a declaration of righteousness based on christ finished work.
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So then Ai asked me a question, would you say
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that the way grace is often described today leans towards
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more towards the idea of enabling And I'm like, well, yeah,
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yes I do. So then I had to tell Ai
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what was going on. I'm like, I'm listening to chapel
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service at Ambassador Baptist College. The speaker said grace enables us.
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He seems to be saying grace enables us to basically
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live the Christian life, with the clear implication that we
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can now basically obey. So then Ai was like, oh, interesting,
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I wish.
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I was there with you.
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Okay, Now, Ai basically it's like, hey, when you can
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give me the transcript, And I'm like, ok, well, I
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can't give you the transcript right now.
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They're still talking. Okay, sh be quiet, Ai, They're talking.
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I'm in chapel service. No, okay, now I'm outside right
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here we go. So AI says this, This description of
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grace as enabling seems to unlign more with infused righteousness framework,
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even if the speaker doesn't intend it that way. If
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grace is what enables Christians to obey, then the implication
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