Nov. 12, 2024
Deuteronomy 32:10: He, Him, and Us
Where do we find ourselves in Deuteronomy 32:10
Where do we find ourselves in Deuteronomy 32:10
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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is
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the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central. Good afternoon everyone.
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It is Tuesday, November twelfth, twenty twenty four. It is
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currently four fourteen pm Central Time, and I am coming
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to you live from the Theology Central studio located right
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here in Abilene, Texas. Well. If you have something to
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write on and something to write with, I need you
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to write down three things. Are you ready? The first
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thing I need you to write down is he He.
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The second thing him him, so number one he, number
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two him, and number three us he him us. Those
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are the three things I want you to write down,
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He us, And we're gonna see if we can get
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to the US because we've already talked about the he
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and him and it's all going to make sense, I
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guess once I kind of help you know what's going on.
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Well and All started with a sermon from Chuck Swindall
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dealing with well being in the desert. When God puts
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us in a desert, and a desert represents difficult times,
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bad times, really, anything that bad that happens, that's your desert.
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And God chooses the desert that's right for you. He
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puts you in the desert, you go through all this
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horrible pain, tragedy, suffering. But hey, hey, hey, hey, turn
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that frown upside down. Everything's gonna be okay. I'm being
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a little you know, I'm being a little sarcastic. Hey, hey, hey,
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everything's gonna be good because God puts you in this
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desert and he picked this desert for you, because he's
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preparing you for some great purpose. And this is all
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said as if it's a universal truth. It's a definitive thing,
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it's a certainty, and it's all based off well in
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the Bible, people end up in the desert, and so
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somehow we're going to take what happened to them and
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we're gonna say it's applicable to us, and we're gonna
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make it all about us. And you know how that
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drives me, and it should drive you crazy, because that's
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a mishandling of the Word of God. It's twisting it.
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It's just utilizing it for our purpose. It's reading into
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the text instead of pulling from the text. It's is
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of Jesus versus exit Jesus. We've been talking about all
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of these things. It's been driving me crazy. So we
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discussed it. And then even though I think the I
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think the main text of the sermon was supposed to
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be an exodus, who never got there because we got
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to Deuteronomy thirty two ten, and that's where we've kind
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of parked, and I'm trying to move it forward. Deteronomy
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chapter thirty two, verse ten. Let me read the verse.
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At this point, you should have it memorized. Deuteronomy thirty
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two ten. This is what we refer to are the
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Bible Bible heading, depending on your Bible. Moses's song. Here's
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a song, a poetic expression of Israel's time in the
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wilderness and God's dealing with them in the wilderness. All right,
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Moses' song. It's a context. And guess who the them
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in the wilderness? That Oh, that's Israel. Okay, that's not you,
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that's not me, that's not us, that's them, Okay. But
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Deuteronomy chapter thirty two, verse ten reads he he found
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him in a desert land. He found him in a
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desert land. Now we looked in our last episode, we
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spent over an hour talking about he and him, And
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let me give you a little bit of summary on
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what we discovered about the he and him. First, let's
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start with the he. All right, Let's start with a he,
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the he and Deuteronomy thirty two ten. That he that
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is a reference to God, all right? And what did
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we learn about this? Let me summarize the use of
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he and Deuteronomy thirty two ten is significant because it
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emphasizes God's personal and relational nature, especially in his covenant
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relationship with Israel. This anthropomorphic language underscores that God is
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actively involved with his people as their protector and provider,
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conveying his faithfulness, care, and intimate connection with Israel. The
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personal pronoun he is more than a grammatical choice. It
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reflects a philological emphasis on God's loving, covenantal commitment to
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his people. He's very personal. He not it, not some
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mysterious force, not some impersonal deity, but He, the covenant
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God of Israel. He he. Now, what was the significance about
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the him? What is the significance about the him? Reading
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a summary, the use of him and Deuteronomy thirty two
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ten refers to Israel as a singular personal entity. The
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he is God the hymn and Deuteronomy thirty two ten.
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That is Israel. So the use of him and Deuteronomy
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thirty two ten refers to Israel as a singular personal entity.
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It is significant because it highlights the covenant intimacy, unity,
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and affection that characterizes God's relationship with his chosen people.
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It adds a deeply relational tone, showing that God's care, protection,
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and guidance are directed towards Israel as though they were
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a beloved individual, emphasizing his covenantal commitment and nurturing love.
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This personification helps readers understand Israel's unique growth and identity
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and God's redemptive plan. Right, I think that sounds I
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think that sounds really good. I think that that's a
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good way to summarize it. So so we did that
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in the last episode. We did that, and we kind
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of moved on, and and I, in some ways I
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felt like, that's that's sufficient. I did a good job.
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That's he in him. But I was like, wow, I wonder,
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I wonder what else I could possibly do with that.
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I wanted I wanted to move on because we have
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he found him in a desert, right that he is
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God to him is Israel. He found him. And then
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if you look at Deuteronomy thirty two ten, depending on
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your translation, some break it down. That God he does
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four actions for to the him, for the him on
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behalf of the him. Hey, hey, there are four actions
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God does in Deuteronomy thirty two ten. We see the
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first one he found owned, So he found Israel in
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a desert land and the waste telling wilderness. He led him.
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God led Israel about, he instructed him, and he kept him.
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That's the king James. Other translations stated a little differently.
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So I wanted to get to those four actions. Okay,
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what are the actions God did to Israel? How did
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this actually happen? Some maybe specific examples from Exodus numbers,
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some specific example, and at some point maybe we'll get
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to that. And then I was going to see how
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those things transfer possibly over to us. That's that's what
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I started thinking about. And so I wanted to get
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to that. But then I was like, well, I wonder,
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I wonder how it went. I wonder. So then I
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came up with this idea. I came up with this idea.
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I said, I know what I'll do. Let me ask
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Ai to critique and analyze my last episode. Let me
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ask Ai to critique and analyze my last episode, and
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see what Ai has to say about my last episode,
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And here's the critique AI provided me for my last episode.
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The podcast provides a rigorous critique of popular evangelical approaches
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to Old Testament passages, emphasizing the risk of applying Israel's
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specific promises to modern Christians. The host argues convincingly for
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the importance of proper hermeneutics, showcasing a commitment to respecting
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the original texts context, particularly when it comes to pronouns
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that might otherwise seem trivial. Because I really emphasize, he
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is God, Him is Israel. That's not us. He and
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Him is not you and me. All right, So I really, really,
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really really really emphasized that, So it acknowledges that I
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did that. But then it says, how Comma, h hey,
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I just gave me a However, Comma, oh no, that's
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not good. However, what is AI going to say? Some
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listeners might feel the host critique is too narrowly focused,
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if I can read correctly, narrowly focused, potentially overlooking broader
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interpretive traditions that view the Old Testament as typology or allegorical. Now,
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let me make it very clear, I don't overlook those
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other interpretive traditions. I just think when you get to
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typology and allegorical, it turns the Bible into a subjective
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mess where you can make it say whatever you want
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to say. And then what do you do see when
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you make it typological or allegorical. Here's my concern. Then
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you come in, you take something, you make it a
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universal principle, you almost make it a command, or you
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offer people some promise and some comfort, and they're not
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never going to get the promise or the comfort because
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it was never meant for them. And you may be
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taking something that was clearly descriptive now making it prescriptive.
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And when you make it, when you go to typology
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or allegorical, you literally can make it say almost whatever
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you want it to say. So I don't ignore that.
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I just reject those, it says. While the host advocates
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for a strict historical and covenantal interpretation, he does not
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fully address other interpretive frameworks within Christian history, such as typology,
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that have influenced Christian preaching and teaching. Okay, I understand
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that critique. I accept that critique, but I reject the
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other systems. So therefore I wasn't going to spend a
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lot of time with them. It says the podcast is
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a valuable contribution to discussions on Biblical interpretation and harmeneutics.
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It strength lies in the host insistence on understand the
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text in its original context and the emphasis on theological literacy. Yet,
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while the critique of swyndolp sermon is thoughtful, a more
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nuanced discussion on the balance between exegesus and relevant application
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could provide a fuller perspective on how different theological traditions
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have historically approached the Old Testament. So it kind of
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critiqued maybe I didn't offer any kind of application maybe
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And you know what, maybe I didn't. Maybe maybe with
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the he and Him, I did focus on what it
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meant in the original context, which I felt we needed
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to do and warn us away. So then I'm like, well,
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what could I do here? What could I do here?
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Is there any way to bring this over to us?
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So I started thinking about it. Now. My first thought
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was to turn on the microphone and go, okay, guys,
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I got a Bible study exercise for you, right, I gotta,
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I gotta, I got an assignment for you, right, I
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have a pop quiz for you? What I need you
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to do is take Deuteronomy thirty two ten and I
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need you to see the He and the Hem. I
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need you to see the context. And then I need
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to ask yourself where where do where do Where do us? Okay,
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I know may not be grammatic grammatically correct? Where do we?
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Where do you? And I? Where do us? How do
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how can we find ourselves in this text? Using it
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every way proper and improper that I can to really
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emphasize the point where do we fit in? Is there
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anything for us? We got the He and the Hem
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is a room for us? Is there anything that can
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be transferable to us, especially in a Christian, you know,
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New Testament type setting, without doing any damage to the text.
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I almost wanted to just kind of pose it as
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a question to say, all right, guys, go figure it out.
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We have the heat, we have the Hem, the He
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is God to him is Israel? Where is the us?
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Where are you and I? Where do we fit in?
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How do we fit in? And I just wanted to
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leave it there. I'm not going to do that. I'm
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going to offer some ideas. I'm not saying I'm going
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to agree with these ideas, but we'll look at some
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ideas and you can tell me what you think. Now
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that keeps us from the four things, right, I still
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want to get to the four things. But we can't
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get to the four things until we've got the he
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and him. Where do we fit in? So we're going
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to look at he him us. We've looked at the
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he and him. Now it's just the us, and we'll
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see what we can do. I think that should be beneficial,
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at least I think so. So here's what I want
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you to do. First, let me give you an assignment.
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Let me give you an assignment. If you have the
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sermons two point oh app Sermons two point oh app
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put out by sermonaudio dot com, you can go to
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sermon audio dot com, look on the website, download the
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I want you to start looking for random sermons on
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Deuteronomy chapter thirty two, verse ten. Deuteronomy chapter thirty two,
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verse ten, and well it's Tuesday, spend a good portion
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of this week and Deuteronomy thirty two ten. Now, remember
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you're supposed to be reading Isaiah forty through fifty five,
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over and over and over and over and over again.
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We still are going to be doing work on Isaiah
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forty through fifty five. So don't forget that, Please don't
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forget that. But I want you to listen to some
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random sermons again. Choose them randomly. Don't choose by your
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favorite speaker, your favorite church, or our favorite denomination. Just
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choose random sermons on Deuteronomy thirty two ten and see
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what they do with it. Now, it's going to be
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the same test that we apply. How quickly do they
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move out Israel and move you in? How quickly do
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the does him get replaced by us? How quickly do
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them get moved out and we get put in? And
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I think, and you can? You can? You can? You know?
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Time it and let me know what you discover. All right,
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So that's your first assignment. Just start looking up random
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sermons on Deuteronomy thirty two ten. We will see what
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this goes. It could be, it could be a final challenge.
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But you're ready to do a little bit more a
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work here, all right. The themes of he that's God
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and Him which is Israel all found in Deuteronomy thirty
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two ten. Well, this demonstrates, This shows God is being
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portrayed as a protective, guiding and nurturing he. I think
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that's fair to say, right, God is being demonstrated as protective, guiding,
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