Dec. 21, 2024

Comparing Scripture with Scripture

Comparing Scripture with Scripture

A discussion about 1 Corinthians 2:13

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A discussion about 1 Corinthians 2:13

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is

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the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central. Good morning everyone.

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It is Saturday, December the twenty first, twenty twenty four.

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It is currently ten fifty one am Central Time, and

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I am coming to you live from the Theology Central

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studio located right here in Abilene, Texas. Well, what is

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about to occur is another example of well twenty twenty

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four right, what I am about to do, what is

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going to happen over the next forty five minutes to

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an hour, is really symbolically, it really captures, It captures

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really everything twenty twenty four has been about. Twenty twenty

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four started. It was going to be about a lot

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of different things. I had a lot of different things.

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I wanted to focus on a lot of things I

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wanted to do, and slowly but surely, everything else fell

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by the wayside and what became the dominant focus was

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our sermons two point zero app sermon challenge. That began

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to dominate everything. It began to drive everything because I

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was telling you to listen to random sermons. I was

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listening to random sermons. We were reviewing random sermons, and

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those that listening that reviewing of sermons then would lead

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to all kinds of different teachings and discuss discussions, sometimes

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being disgusted, but discussions that that's what it led to,

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and hopefully, behind the scenes on the other side of

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this microphone, hopefully many of you who participated in the

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Sermons two point oh app sermon challenge, it led to

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maybe a discussion with people you knew, maybe discussions with

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family members, church members, maybe just a discussion with yourself.

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But it led to thinking, discussing, struggling, meditating, It led

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to a lot of just in depth concentration and thought

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about wherever that sermon led us. Now, in many cases

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it led us to you know, and I hate to

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say it, try it. I don't want to use the

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word correct, but it led us to say, Okay, this

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sermon put forth this idea, this hypothesis. We disagree with

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this hypothesis. Now, let's stop criticizing. Now, let's work and

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build a hypothesis, an interpretation that we think is more

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accurate and more in line with scripture. And it led

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to that, over and over and over and over again

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so many times. Well, here we are on December the

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twenty first, fast approaching the end of this year in

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many ways, the end of the challenge and what has happened. Well,

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yesterday we reviewed a sermon, and now we returned back

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to really that sermon, and it's going to draw I

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have this next entire hour. It could drive really weeks

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and months of discussion because one sermon that that's that's

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what one sermon can do. Now and I and I

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and I've talked about this all year. I still am

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very conflicted, right because on one hand, I'm it has

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been very discouraging, very frustrating that you listen to sermons

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and then you have to spend twenty seven hours really

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trying to correct don't again, I don't like to use

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that word. You have to you have to really go

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back and almost restudy the passage for you know, twenty

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seven hours to ensure that well, that it's handled in

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a more accurate way. I'm trying to be nice. I'm

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trying to be nice, but it's just frustrating. You listen

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to a sermon, You're like, what in the world was that?

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What were they doing with that scripture? What were they saying?

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So that's frustrating, right, he because you would hope that

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you could just listen to sermon after sermon after sermon

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after sermon, and it basically like, well, I may disagree

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with a little bit here, a little bit there, but

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for the most part, yeah, that was great. But we

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have found over and over and over that it doesn't

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lead to well, a little disagreement that leads to a

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completely like wait, what was that? And then when we

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go do our study, it's completely opposite to what we heard.

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That is discouraging and frustrating, but at the same time,

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at the same time, there is something kind of awesome

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about that that one sermon, like one sermon, when thirty

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minute sermon, forty minute sermon literally can lead to twenty

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seven hours just choosing a random number, and twenty seven

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is not even really hyperbole, but it could lead to

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twenty seven hours of teaching, of disc discussion, of struggling

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to try to come up with a better way to

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handle the text, like one sermon can lead to hours

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upon hours, weeks upon weeks of discussion and study and

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hermeneutics and interpretation. I mean, that's a great thing, right,

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I mean, if you consider the millions upon millions of

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sermons available on the sermon's two point zero app and

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if each one can lead to hours upon hours upon hours,

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weeks months of study, well then that means no matter

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how much you disagree with the sermon, no matter how

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frustrating it may make you. If if the end result

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is you spent twenty seven hours in that same text

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because of that sermon, then no matter how much you

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disagree with it, no matter how frustrated it makes you.

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On one hand, you kind of have to go thank

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you for putting that sermon there. Oh, it drove me

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absolutely crazy. I took three trips to the liquor store.

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But overall, and that's a joke for those who are

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new to listening, all right, But at the same time,

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you want to just say thank you because as a

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result of your sermon I created, you know, just think

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of everything we did with say Saw eighty three, all

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the stuff we're doing with Isaiah forty. Just go through

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all the different things we did. It was because of

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these sermons. Because those churches took the time, money, and

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effort to put their sermons online. They literally led me

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you as a listening audience, and hopefully in your own study,

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to hours and hours and hours of contemplation and study

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and meditation on the very text itself. So because of

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a bad sermon, we'll just use that term. I know

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that's subjective, but a bad sermon may actually lead to

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more study and more understanding. So in some ways, do

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I get frustrated or do I'm like, do I send

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an email going, hey, look your one thousand percent disagree

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with I don't have no clue what you were doing,

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But thank you because as a result of your sermon,

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I spent twenty seven hours in that passage of scripture.

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Thank you, right, I mean like, in some ways, I

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guess you could look at it from a negative perspective,

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but there is a positive in it, correct, I think

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there's a positive? Well, we kind of have Again, this

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could be viewed as negative, but I'm gonna try to

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view it as positive, right, I'm trying to. I'm really

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doing a lot of time and contemplating everything that happened

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in twenty twenty four and really just considering was this

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all worth it when it was all said and done?

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And maybe I'm trying too hard to justify or try

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to find the positive in it, because you don't want

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to feel like you wasted an entire year. But I

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do believe that that's positive. I just don't know how

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many people on the other side of the microphone perceived

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it or how they utilized it. But if it leads

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to that, that's a good thing. Right. So yesterday we

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reviewed a sermon on the General Laws of Bible Interpretation

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or General Laws of Biblical Interpretation, and we listened to

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part one. This is in a series of an entire

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series on Biblical interpretation, and I want to I do

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want to listen to all thirty six messages. I do

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want to listen to all of them. I don't know.

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I don't know if I'll ever review all of them,

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because that would be I mean, that would be forever

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to try to review all of them. But I definitely

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may reference the series multiple times. But I do want

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to listen to them all. But we listen to General

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Laws of Biblical Interpretation Part one yesterday, and let me

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just say, wow, it it was very frustrating. So what

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we're gonna do is we're gonna go back. We're gonna

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listen to a little bit of it because there is

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a Yesterday we focused on that sermon's use of Second

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Peter Chapter one, Verse twenty Second Peter Chapter one, verse twenty,

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which reads, knowing this verse that no prophecy of the

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scripture is of any private interpretation. And we listen to

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how a sermon teaching us the laws the general laws

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of biblical interpretation. We listen to a sermon on the

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general laws of biblical interpretation use Second Peter chapter one,

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verse twenty, and then use it in a way that

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was an example of isagesis not exit Jesus, and a

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complete misinterpretation of the passage, which was somewhat fascinating, ironic,

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and a little maddening. Right, Hey, here's a sermon about

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how to interpret the Bible, and I'm going to demonstrate

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how and then actually just actually does it the incorrect way.

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There was another passage referenced in the sermon, and they

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use this passage almost to state that this is like

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the main principle and Bible study. And we're gonna talk

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about that one. So yesterday we looked at Second Peter

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one twenty, and I think I did a very good

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job of breaking it down and explaining how it should

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be interpreted. We looked at how it's been interpreted, you know,

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in church history, the different ways that's been looked at.

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I think we did a pretty good job. I think

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we did. Now I could turn it into an entire

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sermon on Second Peter one twenty and correct that forever

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and really maybe you know, do even more with it.

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But I think we did a pretty good job. So

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now we need to focus on First Corinthians chapter two,

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because well they use a verse there, and we're gonna

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so we're gonna listen to the beginning of this sermon

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again just kind of let them set up their basic

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especially with First Corinthians two, and then we're just gonna

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have a lengthy discussion about everything about First Corinthians two.

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You are going to then hear a little bit of

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my argument with Ai, because I argued with Ai about

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how Ai was trying to handle First Corinthians chapter two,

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verse thirteen, And you'll hear a little bit of that,

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So I or not hear it, but well you'll hear

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me read it, and we'll just see where this goes.

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So again, this is a perfect example. This really captures

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the whole thing we've tried that really, I had no

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idea that twenty twenty four was going to go the

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way it was going to go. I really didn't. I mean,

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when I came up with the idea, oh the Sermon's

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two point oh app sermons challenge, this will be fun.

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I had no idea that it was actually just going

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to like take over, right, It's like I'm moving in,

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I'm going to possess, possess the podcast has been possessed

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by well the Sermon's two point oh app. It really

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has taken over the entire podcast. I mean, and no,

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I never intended that to happen, but I should have,

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knowing my personality, I should have known that was going

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to happen. I really should have, because there's no way

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I was going to be able to listen to sermons

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and just be like, okay, just move on, just move on.

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Just no. I become obsessed. I become possessed with the idea, Okay,

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wait a minute, anybody can criticize, We've got to do

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more than just criticized. So I should have known it

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was going to turn into hours and hours of discussion

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and struggle and all the different things that turned into.

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I could have managed it a little better. But at

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the same time, I think it came across as pretty

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real and authentic. So I don't know, but here we go.

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Let's go back to the sermon we reviewed yesterday. We

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review the entire thing here, we're just going to review

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the beginning of it so that we get to the

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First Corinthians two passage, because that's where we need to go.

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So are you ready? Here we go.

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Having first turn to Secrepedter Chapter of one. Secrepedter Chapter one.

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There's a lot of confusion today among those who name

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the name of Christ. Satan is using some of this

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confusion to keep those who are lost blind to the

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truth of the Gospel. There are many believers who are

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ignorant of the whole counsel of God, especially as it

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relates to Church truth. And much of the confusion that

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prevails today stems from faulty interpretation of the Word of God.

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So please note he's making a dogmatic assertion that there's

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a lot of confusion today and there's a lot of

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Christians who are ignorant. They're ignorant of the Word of God.

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They don't understand how to interpret scripture, and this is

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keeping them from understanding, you know, important doctrines. So Christians

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are Christians don't understand how to interpret the scriptures. Now,

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I find it interesting and a message where it's making

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the claim that other Christians don't know how to interpret

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the Bible, that there was a complete, perfect example of

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the misinterpretation of tewod Peter chapter one, verse twenty. Come on,

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someone's gotta find humor in that. I mean, I can't

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be the only one who thinks, you know, isn't it ironic?

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I mean, come on, don't you think isn't it? I mean,

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come on, yes, I'm making a musical reference, all right.

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I mean, come on, hey, Christians out there are ignorant

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Christians out there don't know how to interpret the Bible,

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and now I'm going to demonstrate how to not interpret,

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how to interpret Second Peter chapter one, verse twenty in

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an incorrect way. That's hilarious to me, right, I mean,

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that's that's good entertainment, right. I mean, I'm not trying

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to be mean. I'm just saying it's it's kind of funny,

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all right. But let's see, now, what we want to

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get to is the First Corinthians passage.

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Usually it stems from people just not getting in and

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study in the Word of God, period, but if they

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are going about it the wrong way can also cause

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confusion as well.

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I remember we talked about this yesterday. He put forth

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two concepts, right, basically, two concepts is one Christians just

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don't study and that leads to all the problems. Or

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they don't really know how to study, they don't really

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understand biblical hermeneutics, they don't understand proper Bible study methods.

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a lack of study or the wrong concepts? Right? Which?

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if you have to take a step back, Christians don't

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even agree on the principles themselves. And we talked about

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kind of like what I thought there was a deeper issue,

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but he kind of puts forth that this idea, Hey,

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if you're a Christian out there, the problem is you

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either are ignorant and how to study, how to interpret,

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or you just don't study. And well, okay, let's continue.

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In many differences over doctrine that are rooting in the

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methods of biblical interpretation that are used, and so it's

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absolutely necessary to be grounded in the basic principles of

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correct Biblical interpretation. And over a number of weeks, that's

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what we are intending to do here tonight. We're going

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to take a look at the general laws of Biblical interpretation.

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Will begin with it and take a look at the

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part of the supreme rule. The supreme rule is interpret

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scripture with scripture.

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to him, the supreme rule is compare scripture with scripture.

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That is the supreme role of Bible study. That it's

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the supreme rule of hermeneutics is to interpret scripture with scripture.

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You will hear this anytime you listen to any series

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on Bible interpretation, Biblical interpretation, how to study the Bible,

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is interpret scripture with scripture. Okay. Now, we listened to

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this sermon yesterday and his attempt to it interpret scripture

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with scripture. We showed you some of the problems with that,

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just random cross referencing, taking a verse that seems to

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be connected, making them more connected than they actually are,

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and all the problems that can actually lead to. Now,

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I got no problem with someone standing up saying the

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supreme rule of Bible interpretation, of Biblical interpretation is interpreting

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scripture with scripture. Where my problem begins is when people

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go to the Bible and try to find a verse

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and say this verse teaches this supreme principle of interpreting

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scripture with scripture. He tries to argue that, for or

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Second Peter chapter one, verse twenty, knowing this verse that

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no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation,

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he tries to insinuate. He tries to say that that

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passage is teaching this concept of scripture with scripture, and

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it is not. It has nothing to do with that.

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That's not what the passage is about. That's not the context.

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It is literally an as is said Jesus. He's reading

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it into the text. So this is he's getting ready

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to demonstrate how not to handle the scriptures, which is

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again somewhat hilarious. And he's going to also use Second

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Corinthians chapter one or so, yeah, second second Corinthians, I'm sorry,

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First Corinthians chapter two, verse thirteen as another passage that

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he is going to insinuate. He's going to declare teaches

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interpret scripture with scripture. And I'm going to argue First

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Corinthians two thirteen does not teach comparing scripture with scripture.

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It's not what it's about that's being read into the

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passage of scripture, all right, and that is Maddie. And

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let me just be very honest with you, Okay. The

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way he's teaching, I was taught the exact same way

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in Bible College, after Bible College seminary, I was taught

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these exact same how to how to interpret these passages.

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And it ticks me off that I didn't catch it

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back then. It ticks me off that I didn't go, wait,

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wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. No, no, no, no, no,

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we're doing ice to Jesus, we're reading this into the text.

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not working the way I had been taught when I

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was a student at a Catholic university. And this idea

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of no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

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that's all you Protestants do. I do private interpretation all day,

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every day, twenty four hours a day, seven days a week.

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got to rethink how to understand Second Peter, Chapter one,

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verse twenty. Well, then I begin to realize wait a minute,

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This has nothing to do with Bible interpretation. This is

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talking about the origin of God's revelation. No, okay, no,

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we're not handling the scriptures right. So then I didn't

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catch on immediately, but then slowly but surely, I begin

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to question the use of First Corinthians Chapter two, verse

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thirteen being about comparing scripture with scripture. So again, let

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me make it clear, I got no problem that you

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declare the supreme role is compare scripture with scripture. My

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issue is when you go to a scripture to try

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and try to claim that scripture is teaching that principle

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when the scripture isn't. That's problematic.

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Peter chapter one and let's be picked up in verse

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number sixteen, Verse twenty is what we're gonna use. But

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let's look at verse sixteen downs just so we understand

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what Peter's talking about here. Peter says, well, we have

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not followed cunningly devised fables when we may have known

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unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,

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but were eye witnesses of his majesty, for he received

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from God, the Father, Honor and Glory, when there came

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such a voice to him from the excellent Glory. This

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is my beloved son, in whom I am well pleased.

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Remember Peter, Peter and some of the other disciples were

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up on the mount of Transfiguration to see that, see

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that actually happen, And he says in verse nineteen, he says,

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we have also a more sure word of prophecy, where

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until you do well, that you take heed as into

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a light that shineth in a dark place, until the

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day dawn and the day star arise in your hearts.

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Knowing this first, here's our text for a night. Knowing

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this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of

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any private interpretation. Okay, So for prophecy came not in

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old time by the will of man, but holy men

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of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

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believe that that's what it says, but I believe it says this. Well,

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the thing is is what does it really say? Okay,

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It's not a matter of what you think it says.

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it does say is the truth, and that's what we

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need to be.

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says it means. It's not what I say it means.

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It's what the text actually says it means. And when

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this text says that, knowing first that no prophecy of

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Scripture is of any private interpretation, this is not giving

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you how to interpret the Bible. Because what he's about

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to say is no private interpretation means you don't take

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any verse out of context. That's not what this is about,

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all right, I'll just read from the study Bible that

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I have right here in front of me. Although some

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have taken this phrase to mean that no individual Christian

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has the right to interpret prophecy for himself or herself,

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the context and the Greek word for interpretation indicates another

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meaning for the verse. The Greek word for interpretation can

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also mean origin, and the context of verse twenty one,

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it is clear that Peter is speaking of Scripture's origin

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from God himself, not the credentials of the one who

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interprets it. There is no private source for the Bible.

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The prophets did not supply their own solutions or explanations

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to the mysteries of life. Rather, God spoke through them.

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He alone is responsible for what is written in scripture.

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This passage is not about you interpreting it. It is

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about the origins of it. Those who wrote the scriptures

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were not doing so from their own private interpretations about

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God or spirituality. They were moved by the Holy Ghost

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and wrote what God breathed through them to write. The

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origin of scripture is not from someone's private interpretation. The

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origin of scripture comes from God alone. That's what this

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passage is about. Has nothing to do with our interpreting

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of it. It's the origin of it. Has zero to

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do with that none. And okay, so we talked about

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this all yesterday. All right, so let's continue.

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Concerned with and first, for instance two thirteen Paul said,

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which things also we speak not in words which man's

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wisdom teaches, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth Comparing spiritual

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things with spiritual. Comparing spiritual things with spiritual is what

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I wants you to get. We are to interpret scripture

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with Scripture is its own best interpreter. A passage of

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the Bible should be interpreted by comparing it with other

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parts of the Bible. And that's why in the first

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couple of sessions, you know, I talked to you about

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some good tools to have on hand to be able.

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So please see what he did. He read First Corinthians

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two thirteen, which things also we speak not in the

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words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth,

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comparing spiritual things with spiritual Then he just immediately inserted

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into that meat, into that text. It's the meaning that

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this teaches comparing scripture with scripture. It does not teach.

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Comparing scripture with scripture. Has nothing to do with First

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Corinthians two thirteen, just as interpret us interpreting the Bible

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has nothing to do with Secrepater one twenty. This is

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all of this is reading into the text. So what

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we're gonna look at in this hour, we're gonna look

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at First Corinthians two thirteen, and we're gonna look at

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it and look at all the different ways that's interpreted,

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and we're gonna challenge some of the ways that's interpreted

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and then try to formulate a new understanding. But the

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first thing I did, all right, well, I didn't do

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it yesterday. I did it today. I took the sermon

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that you we were just listening to. We reviewed all

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of it yesterday. You can go back and you can

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go listen to that sermon to listen to my entire review.

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But I decided to take the transcript of the sermon

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and hand it to Ai and said, okay, Ai, go

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do your thing, analyze, critique, interpret. Here is the sermon.

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Tell me what you thing right? So AI gave me

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its unfiltered opinion of the sermon. Here we go. The sermon,

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the sermon transcript demonstrates the irony and problem you highlight. Now,

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the problem I highlighted was, isn't it ironic and problematic

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that a sermon that is intending to teach people how

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to interpret the Bible interpret scripture the way it does

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in the sermon in this sermon itself? So I pointing

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out a isn't it ironic when a sermon about Bible

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interpretation actually misinterprets the Bible? So AI said that this

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sermon that I provided, the one you were just listening to,

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demonstrates this irony. A message designed to teach proper Bible

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interpretation methods employees questionable interpretive practices itself. I want you

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to hear that again. This is how Ai describes that sermon.

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You were just listening to a message design to teach

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proper Bible interpretation methods employees questionable interpretive practices itself. Specifically,

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it uses Second Peter one twenty and First Corinthians two

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thirteen as proof text for the principle of interpreting scripture

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with scripture without adequately demonstrating that this principle is actually

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taught in those passages. Well, it cannot demonstrate that that

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principle is taught accurately or is actually taught in those passages,

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because those passages are not teaching that principle in any way,

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shape or form. So I said, okay Ai, please provide

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analysis of the sermon's approach. So AI starts with Second

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Peter one twenty, and it characterizes Second Peter one twenty

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as the way it was handled in that sermon that

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you were just listening to as a miss apple colication,

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Ai said. The sermon argues that Second Peter one twenty

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teaches the principle of interpreting scripture with scripture by emphasizing

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that no prophecy of scripture is of any private interpretation. However,

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the context of Second Peter one twenty through twenty one

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clearly refers to the origin of prophecy. It comes from God,

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not human initiative. That's what it's referring to. Rather than

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providing a hermeneutical rule for Bible study. By reading the

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principle into the verse, the sermon commits isa Jesus imposing

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meaning on the text, rather than exe Jesus drawing meaning

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from the text. So the sermon is guilty of doing

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is to Jesus. It's reading into the text, instead of

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doing exe Jesus, which is pulling from the text or

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drawing from the text. So the principle that he was articulating,

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he was reading in to it. He came up with

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the principle, told you the principle, read it into the text,

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and then you are supposed to believe that it's actually

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found in the text. It's only found there because it

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was put there. The text itself does not teach the

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principle in any way, shape or form. Okay Ai. Then

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I asked Ai about First Corinthians to thirteen and light

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of this sermon, and guess what. Ai classified it? Once

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again as misapplication. The sermon uses First Corinthians two thirteen

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to assert that scripture teaches comparing spiritual things with spiritual

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It interpreted as comparing scripture with scripture. However, the phrase

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comparing spiritual things with spiritual is more likely about explaining

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or communicating spiritual things to spiritual people as guided by

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the Holy Spirit. The context of the passage emphasizes divine

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revelation and wisdom, not hermeneutical techniques. The sermon critiques private

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interpretation and emphasizes the need for context and proper methods,

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yet its own interpretation of proof text rely on isolating

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phrases from their context to support a preconceived principle. I

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want you to hear that. Again, the sermon critiques private

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interpretations and emphasizes the need for context and proper methods,

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Yet its own interpretations of proof text rely on isolating

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specific phrases from their context to support a preconceived principle.

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You can take your preconceived principle, isolate scripture and find

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that principle there, but you're reading it into the text.

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This undermines the entire sermon, the entire credibility of this

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As far as teaching correct interpretive practices is underminded by

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utilizing incorrect interpretive practices. Now this raises some questions. Sometimes,

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as Christians, we can teach, we can recite, we can know,

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we can even pass a test on proper hermeneutics. But

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here's the thing. We can know them, we can recite them,

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we can memorize them, we can answer the question on

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a test. But in many cases we don't actually practice

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the very correct hermeneutical principles that we know. Knowing hermeneutics

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is far different than doing Knowing correct hermeneutics as far

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different than doing correct hermeneutics. When a sermon fails to

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apply the principles they teach, they risk reinforcing the poor

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interpretive habits among the listeners. For example, by misusing proof texts,

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the sermon models the very issue it's criticizing. It also seems,

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and this is another problem we can confuse. There can

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be confusion between valid principles and biblical basis. The principle

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of interpreting scripture with scripture is valid and a valuable

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hermeneutical approach, but it needs to be taught with proper

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biblical support. Using a misapplied proof text creates confusion about

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where the principle comes from and how it should be used.

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So it can be a valid principle, but you've got

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to use a valid text to teach the valid principle.

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If you preach the valid principle without a valid biblical basis,

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you undermine the text itself. All right, So I got

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I got a lot more here that I asked AI about.

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But I decided, you know, I'm not going to go

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through all of that, so I backed all the way up.

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Then I'm gonna go way back up here because I

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linked the discussion ensued, all right, So I started it

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this way. I'm like many pastors and even in Bible

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colleges and in seminaries. Fet Corinthians two thirteen is used

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to teach the concept of an interpreting scripture with scripture.

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Is that concept actually being taught by the verse or

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is this concept being read into the verse. Now, and

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let me make it very clear. I have gone to

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Bible college after Bible college, seminary after seminary, and I

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have been taught over into over and over. First Corinthians

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two thirteen. Compare scripture with scripture over and over and over.

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I've been taught that all right. I've even taught it

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myself for years. Right. Whenever I would teach Bible study

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methods and I would teach cross referencing, I would use

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First Corinthians two thirteen as a support as a proof

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text to prove scripture doing good cross referencing. Guess what

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I think. Well, I'm going to argue and put forth

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the hypotheses that First Corinthians two thirteen should not be

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used to support that idea. It's a valid principle and

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it should be utilized in Bible study comparing scripture with scripture.

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It's just not taught here. So I asked Ai, what

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do you do? So AI first quoted the verse to me,

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instead of using the King James, use the ESV. And

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it quoted it this way. And we impart this in

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words not taught by human wisdom, but taught by the spirit,

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interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual. Now that

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just changes everything, doesn't it. And we impart this in words,

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not taught by human wisdom, but taught by the spirit,

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interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual. Interpreting spiritual

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truths to those who are spiritual. That has nothing to

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do with comparing scripture with scripture. This is about how

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that the apostles and Paul, they were taught by the

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spirit of God. This would be direct revelation, right, that

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God was speaking, speaking through them, breathing through them to

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write inspired scripture, and then they interpreted spiritual truths to

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those who were spiritual. They were given spiritual truth in

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a way that we are not right because God was

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speaking directly through them, breathing through them. Scripture was being written,

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especially by the apostle Paul. Then they would interpret those

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truths apostolic authority, et cetera. And then they would communicate

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that to those who were spiritual. That's if you go

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just with the ESV translation, you immediately like, wait a minute,

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there's something else going on here, not just simply hey,

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this this passage is about interpreting scripture with scripture. So

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then I asked Ai, okay, give me give me the

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contextual over you put this in. Sometimes give me the

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proper context, so Ai said. Paul is addressing the Corinthian

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believers about the source and nature of spiritual wisdom. In

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the Broader Passage for Corinthians two six through sixteen. He

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contrasts human wisdom with divine wisdom revealed by the spirit.

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This verse specifically speaks of the way Paul and others

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communicate God's wisdom, not using human rhetoric, but through spirit

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inspired words. They can a spiritual truths right now, just immediately,

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just listening to that contextual context. This is not about

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interpreting scripture with scripture. This is not in anywhere, it's

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not even addressing that. So then I'm like okay Ai

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giving an analysis of First Corinthians two thirteen. So it

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broke it down this way, not taught by human wisdom,

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but taught by the spirit. Paul emphasizes that the truths

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he and others proclaim come directly from divine revelation, not

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human reasoning or philosophy. This refers to the inspiration of

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scripture and the spiritual role and revealing God's wisdom. Look

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at it for which things also we speak, not in

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the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy

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Ghost teacheth. Paul and the apostles were receiving divine revelation.

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This fits perfectly with tewod Peter Oneture is given by

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private by private interpretation. It's its origin is divine the

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writers were not just coming up with things on their own.

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It wasn't human wisdom. It was God's wisdom being breathed

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through them and being written down, And we refer to

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that as the inspiration of scripture. It is infallible, it

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is inspired. That's the point here. So if you want

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to do cross reference, you would correct. You would take

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First Corinthians two thirteen, connected to sewod Peter one twenty

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and say this is referring to that the origin of

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scripture is divine. It comes from God, not man's wisdom,

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not man's private interpretation. There is a correlation interpreting spiritual

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truths to those who are spiritual. Now the Greek word

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translated as interpreting right, which carries the idea of comparing, explaining,

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or dissert learning. The phrase suggests the process of explaining

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or applying spiritual truths in a way that is understood

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by those who are spiritually receptive. This is the idea

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that they that because they were given this divine revelation,

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then they would then take those spiritual things, compare them,

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or again, as the word would be, it says interpret

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verse thirteen. It says comparing spiritual things with spiritual things.

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All right, some will translate that interpreting spiritual truths. Well,

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it's the idea, is the idea of comparing, explaining, or discerning.

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So they would then take these spiritual the spiritual truth

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that was taught by God, given to them by divine revelation,

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and then they would they would explain, they would teach,

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they would give these spiritual truths to those who are spiritual.

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That's the concept here. So does this verse teach the

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concept of interpreting scripture with scripture? So I asked Ai specifically,

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all right, well, you've given me kind of a context,

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you've kind of broken the verse down, you'ven analyzed it. Well,

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I just need to know, I need to just I

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need you to be very direct with me. Does the

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verse teach the concept of interpreting scripture with scripture? So?

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AI was like, okay, I'm going to give you first

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arguments for that interpretation that it does teach interpreting scripture

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with scripture. So AI starts by trying to prove that

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using arguments that other people would make. And this is

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what it gives me. Some interpret interpreting spiritual truths to

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those who are spiritual as a method of comparing one

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spiritual truth with another. This could be seen as an

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early reference to the principle of using scripture to clarify scripture,

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assuming that the spirit's teaching involves harmonizing the entire of

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God's revealed word. Now, that's not really what you can see.

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There is Even when AI tries to give you the

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argument that other people give, it's not really an argument.

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It's just an assumption. It's just we are assuming, we

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are bringing our presupposition to the text that this teaches,

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comparing scripture with scripture. There's nothing there to really justify

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the claim. There's nothing textually that would prove this. There's

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nothing even in the words that are used that would

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prove this concept this Now, so then AI, I was like, okay,

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so I just need you to be more upfront here. Well,

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then AI states. The verse does not explicitly address the

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method of biblical interpretation or hermeneutics. I'm like, I know. Instead,

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it focuses on how spiritual truth are communicated and understood.

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Paul emphasizes the role of the spirit and revealing and

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explaining divine wisdom, not the process of comparing scriptural text.

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The context is not about how to interpret scripture, but

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about the spiritual and conveying divine wisdom. The spiritual truths

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are interpreted or applied to the spiritual those in dwelt

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by the spirit, rather than the text being cross reference

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with other texts. So it's those who have received divine revelation,

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especially in this historical context, giving then to those who

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are spiritual that divine revelation, because those who are not spiritual,

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they're not going to receive it. They're not going to care.

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They they're not they have they're not saved, they don't care.

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This is conveying spiritual truth, divine revelation to those who

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are spiritual, in a sense, to those who are saved. Right,

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So I so AI, and I got a lot more there.

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Ai tries to kind of do the whole whole concept

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that it's the spirit that gives us understanding, it's the

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spirit that gives us discernment, it's the spirit that helps

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us understand the scriptures, right, and try to do a

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little bit of that. And I immediately challenged DAYI, and

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I said, well we'll wait a minute, Wait a minute.

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It is absolutely obvious that the spirit isn't revealing and

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explaining divine truth to believers today due to the to

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the fact of complete disunity and millions of different interpretations

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on basically every verse in the Bible. So how then

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should First Corinthians two thirteen be applied today, if it

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even should be? All right? Now, I think the point

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here is this is Paul speaking to the church at

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corinth in their context, and in their context, the Word

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of God has not been completed, The New Testament has

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not been completed. God is still speaking in very unique

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ways at the time of First Corinthians. He's speaking directly,

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the inspiration of scripture is occurring. Divine revelation is being given.

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A completely different thing. Then, after what happens once the

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Bible is completed? So Ai then said, this your observation,

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speaking of my observation about disunity and differing interpretations among

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Christians is an important critique of how First Corinthians two

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thirteen is often applied. If the spirit's role in revealing

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and explaining truth is taken as a present day guarantee,

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then the lack of unity and clarity raises significant theological

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and practical questions. So Ai said, let me provide you

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a nuanced approach to understanding and applying the verse today.

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So AI acknowledges that, look, within Christianity, there's no agreement.

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I mean, what are we seeing. We just saw someone

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say I'm going to do a sermon. We listen to

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someone preach a sermon on how to interpret the Bible

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and completely mishandle Second Peter one twenty. Here's the thing.

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They would tell you that they handled Second Peter one

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twenty correctly, I'm saying they handled it incorrectly. They would

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tell you that they're handling First Corinthians two thirteen correctly.

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I would say they're handling it incorrectly. So there is

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not even agreement just right there, and one sermon, there's

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completely disagreement on it. What does that prove to you?

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If the Spirit is speaking and guiding and leading, well,

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then guess what. Either you've got to decide that one

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of us don't have does not have the Holy Spirit,

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so one of us is not saved. I guess you

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could go that direction, or maybe you have to agree

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that the way this actually works is not some mystical.

699
00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:45.719
The spirit gives me information is that we take the

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00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:49.840
Bible and we use proper rules of reading, comprehension and

701
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:53.920
reading interpretation to discern the meaning of the text, and

702
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:56.400
based off what we heard in that sermon, that was

703
00:46:56.440 --> 00:47:00.360
not done isa Jesus occurred, not exed Jesus. Things were

704
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:03.119
being read into the text, not drawn from the text.

705
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:07.039
And even AI when it steps away and looks at

706
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:10.559
it just from a logical perspective about basic rules of

707
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:15.199
reading interpretation, it agrees that the verses are that is

708
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:18.320
of Jesus was occurring, because that's exactly what was occurring.

709
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:28.719
So AI told me this reevaluating the context and original application.

710
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:31.519
So it's going to it tries to reevaluate the context

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00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:33.679
and the original application. So here's what it gives me.

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00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:41.639
Paul is referring specifically to himself. Amen, okay, great, because

713
00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:45.599
look at first Corinthius two thirteen, which things also we speak.

714
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:51.480
Paul is referring specifically to himself and the other apostles

715
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:56.000
who were uniquely inspired by the Spirit to proclaim God's wisdom.

716
00:47:56.639 --> 00:48:01.679
These truths they communicated were not derived from human reasoning,

717
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:06.119
but we're directly taught by the Spirit. The context suggests

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00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:09.639
that Paul is speaking primarily about the process of divine

719
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:16.320
revelation to the apostles, which culminated in the writing of scripture. Yes,

720
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:21.119
that's what this passage is about, and it fits perfectly

721
00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:26.000
with Second Peter chapter one, verse twenty. Now, if we

722
00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:28.320
go back here, you'll see that this is how this

723
00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:32.000
whole thing works. Go back to First Corinthians, chapter two,

724
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:36.880
verse six. Howbeit we there's the We again speak wisdom

725
00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:39.880
among them that are perfect, yet not the wisdom of

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00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:43.159
the world, nor of the princes of this world that

727
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come to not now, please note we speak wisdom among

728
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:50.800
them that are perfect. Now there's no perfect person. This

729
00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:54.360
is speaking wisdom among those who are saved, because in

730
00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:56.239
Christ we are perfect in our position.

731
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Right.

732
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But we there's we again, Paul and the apostles speak

733
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the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden

734
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:08.360
wisdom which God ordained before the world, unto our glory,

735
00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:10.960
which none of the princes of this world knew, for

736
00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:13.079
had they known it, they would not have crucified the

737
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:16.320
Lord of Glory. All right. So clearly the lost world

738
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:20.960
don't know these They don't know, they don't understand these things,

739
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:25.400
because if they would have, they wouldn't have been crucifying Christ. Okay,

740
00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:29.360
all right, But as it is written, I have not

741
00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:33.039
seen nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart

742
00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:38.159
of man. The things which God hath prepared for them

743
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:43.800
that love him. But God hath revealed them unto us

744
00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:47.760
by his spirit. For the spirit searcheth all things jay

745
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:52.159
the deep things of God. See, there's many things we

746
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:55.559
cannot grasp or understand. Some things have to be given

747
00:49:55.719 --> 00:50:00.880
by divine revelation. Right, divine revelation is worked. God reveals

748
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:03.840
what we we could not just understand on our own,

749
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:06.400
or grasp or even find out on our own. God

750
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:10.280
has to reveal it. Well. God gave his divine revelation

751
00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:16.440
to those who wrote the scriptures. It was revealed to them.

752
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:21.159
Nobody was there at creation, nobody was an eye witness

753
00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:24.119
to God. In the beginning. God created the heavens and

754
00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:27.480
the earth. But God divinely revealed that to the writer

755
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:31.519
of Genesis, which we believe to be Moses. Right, the

756
00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:34.760
things Paul reveals, we may not be able to grasp

757
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:37.960
or understand that, but it was divinely revealed to Paul.

758
00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:44.280
That's divine revelation given. Listen given to people, and divine

759
00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:50.400
revelation that specific, special, specific divine revelation was given to

760
00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:54.559
the apostles to the writers of the Bible, and that

761
00:50:54.639 --> 00:51:03.079
divine revelation ceased with the completion of the scriptures. All right, now,

762
00:51:03.079 --> 00:51:05.559
look at verse eleven. For what man knoweth the things

763
00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:07.960
of man, save the spirit of man, which is in him.

764
00:51:08.039 --> 00:51:10.639
Even so, the things of God know no man but

765
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:13.159
the Spirit of God. Now we have received not the

766
00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:15.519
spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God,

767
00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:17.719
that we might know the things that are freely given

768
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:21.639
to us of God. Which things also we speak. See,

769
00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:24.280
this is all about Paul and the Apostles, not in

770
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:27.480
the words which man's wisdom teaches, but which the Holy

771
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:31.519
Ghost teacheth. Comparing spiritual things with spiritual things. They are

772
00:51:31.599 --> 00:51:34.480
taking the spiritual things that they have been given and

773
00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:39.719
given it to those who are spiritual. That's the context here.

774
00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:44.559
With the completion of the Biblical canon, the process of

775
00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:50.079
direct divine revelation has ceased. The spirit role today is

776
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:53.800
not to reveal new truths. That's not what he does. Now.

777
00:51:53.840 --> 00:51:56.800
Some will say he illuminates, and we can get into

778
00:51:56.880 --> 00:51:59.639
a whole argument about that, because again, if he's illuminating,

779
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:02.920
well then why what is the illuminating Because we still

780
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:10.760
can't come to an agreement on anything all right, So

781
00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:14.199
that is what that is what this And I've got

782
00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:16.480
plenty of other notes, and I asked AI about fifty

783
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:19.400
other questions, but that is what this text is about.

784
00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:33.400
So let's do this. So in conclusion, and I asked

785
00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:36.519
AI this all right, because I well, it gave me

786
00:52:36.840 --> 00:52:40.119
two conclusions, because I asked for further clarification. The first

787
00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:42.719
conclusion it gave me was this one Corinthians two thirteen

788
00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:45.360
should primarily be understood in referring to the spirit's work

789
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:49.920
and inspiring the apostles and ensuring the accurate transmission of

790
00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:54.719
God's revealed wisdom and scripture. This verse does not promise

791
00:52:55.039 --> 00:52:58.320
perfect unity or infallible understanding in this life. Instead, it

792
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:02.920
points to the necessity of humility, diligent study, and focus

793
00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:05.599
on the central truths of this life. All right, So

794
00:53:05.800 --> 00:53:09.760
I then ask, so in conclusion, first Corinthians two thirteen

795
00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:12.800
cannot be used to teach the idea that the Bible

796
00:53:12.840 --> 00:53:16.599
itself teaches that the Bible of self teaches compare scripture

797
00:53:16.599 --> 00:53:19.639
with scripture has a key principle and Bible study. So

798
00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:25.320
then AI said, correct, And first Corinthians two thirteen. In conclusion,

799
00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:29.840
First Corinthians two thirteen cannot be legitimately used to teach

800
00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:32.719
the idea that the Bible itself promotes interpreting scripture, with

801
00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:36.159
scripture as the key principle and Bible study. The verse,

802
00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:40.639
when understood in its proper context, is focused on the

803
00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:45.719
role of the Holy Spirit inspiring the apostles to communicate

804
00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:54.119
divine truths, not on hermeneutical methods of interpreting scripture. So

805
00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:57.519
what do we have here in a different conclusion? Won't

806
00:53:57.559 --> 00:54:02.440
go back to First Peter or Second Peter. I'm sorry,

807
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:07.760
Second Peter, chapter one, verse twenty. Second Peter chapter one,

808
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:14.480
verse twenty. Knowing this first that no prophecy of the scriptures,

809
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:18.760
so none of the scriptures is of any private interpretation.

810
00:54:18.920 --> 00:54:22.119
What does this mean in its context? It means no

811
00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:29.400
scripture was created, written, or originated by the private interpretation

812
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:33.559
of the writers themselves. They didn't come up with these ideas,

813
00:54:33.880 --> 00:54:38.320
was that their private interpretations they were look at the

814
00:54:38.400 --> 00:54:41.639
very next verse, for the prophecy came not in old

815
00:54:41.679 --> 00:54:45.039
time by the will of man, but holy men of

816
00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:48.119
God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

817
00:54:48.360 --> 00:54:53.400
The origin of scripture is divine, not from the mind

818
00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:56.920
of men, not from their private interpretation. That's what Second

819
00:54:56.920 --> 00:54:59.239
Peter one twenty is about. Has nothing to do with

820
00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:02.920
comparing scripture with scripture, has literally nothing to do with that.

821
00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:07.360
And anyone who says that it is is misapplying and mishandling,

822
00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:10.400
and they're doing is of Jesus, not exo Jesus, ex

823
00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:13.679
of Jesus. What do we learn? Scripture has a divine origin.

824
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:18.239
It did not come someone didn't make up their ideas.

825
00:55:18.400 --> 00:55:21.840
It's not their interpretations of God. It's not their interpretations

826
00:55:21.840 --> 00:55:24.440
of what God said or did. It's the actual word

827
00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:34.519
of God. Next one Corinthians, Chapter two, verse thirteen. Which

828
00:55:34.599 --> 00:55:37.679
things also we speak the we there is the Paul

829
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:41.320
and the apostles, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth.

830
00:55:41.519 --> 00:55:46.400
They were not teaching and giving what man's wisdom created

831
00:55:46.599 --> 00:55:49.280
or man's wisdom came up with. What they were giving

832
00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:53.079
was that which the Holy Ghost teacheth. The Holy Ghost

833
00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:57.719
spoke directly through them. They were given divine revelation. And

834
00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:00.719
then what they were they to do? They were then

835
00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:04.760
to compare spiritual things with spiritual Well, well, if we

836
00:56:04.840 --> 00:56:08.840
go in fact, I'm going to look here, I'm going

837
00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:16.960
to look here, I'm gonna go to First Corinthians two thirteen,

838
00:56:21.679 --> 00:56:30.000
going to go to the anti linear comparing. Is this

839
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:41.840
Greek word Strong's g forty seven ninety three, soucrino, soucrino, socrino.

840
00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:48.400
This idea of comparing spiritual things with spiritual it's the

841
00:56:48.480 --> 00:56:52.840
idea to uh, to interpret, to compare, all right, to

842
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:58.519
combine with appropriate expressions, and it carries the It carries

843
00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:02.079
a lot of different I carry is the idea that

844
00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:06.599
the concept here is they received it. Now they're taking

845
00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:10.440
these spiritual concepts and guess what they're doing. They're giving them.

846
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:15.480
They're to those who are spiritual. In fact, if we

847
00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:19.440
look up First Corinthians two thirteen, I'm gonna do this,

848
00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:26.199
just add more concept, more context. Here, give me one second.

849
00:57:26.239 --> 00:57:41.679
Here we go First Corinthians to thirteen. All right, I'm

850
00:57:41.719 --> 00:57:45.840
going to read this in every translation, First Corinthians to thirteen.

851
00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:49.039
This is what we speak, not the words taught us

852
00:57:49.119 --> 00:57:51.280
by human wisdom, but in words taught by the spirit.

853
00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:56.760
Explaining spiritual realities with spiritual taught words. Now that's the

854
00:57:57.079 --> 00:58:00.239
inn iv So it handles it in a slightly different way. Hey,

855
00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:04.079
we have been taught spiritual realities, and we are going

856
00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:09.880
to explain them using spiritual words, the New Living translation.

857
00:58:10.800 --> 00:58:13.360
When we tell you these things, we do not use

858
00:58:13.400 --> 00:58:16.599
words that come from human wisdom, and instead we speak

859
00:58:16.639 --> 00:58:20.760
words given to us by the spirit, using spiritual words

860
00:58:20.760 --> 00:58:24.280
to explain spiritual truths. So in other words, hey, we

861
00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:27.280
were given spiritual things, and we're going to speak of

862
00:58:27.320 --> 00:58:30.079
this in a spiritual way. We're not going to do

863
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:34.800
this through earthly wisdom, our human you know, technique, or

864
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:37.320
manipulative technique. We're going to speak of it in a

865
00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:41.000
spiritual way. That's completely different than comparing scripture with scripture,

866
00:58:41.079 --> 00:58:43.960
which one Corinthians two thirteen is not talking about in

867
00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:48.920
any way, shape or form. The esv as we impart

868
00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:51.599
these words not taught by human wisdom, but taught by

869
00:58:51.639 --> 00:58:55.320
the spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual.

870
00:58:55.559 --> 00:58:59.719
So we now we have two ideas. They're received divine revelation.

871
00:59:00.360 --> 00:59:05.119
They are going to give that divine revelation using spiritual

872
00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:09.519
words and spiritual wisdom, not using fleshly wisdom or fleshly

873
00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:13.840
techniques or second way of understanding it. They receive divine

874
00:59:13.880 --> 00:59:17.320
revelation and they're going to speak these spiritual things to

875
00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:21.159
those who are spiritual, to those who would be receptive

876
00:59:21.199 --> 00:59:24.800
to actually hearing it and pursuing an understanding of it.

877
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The Brean Study Bible. And this is what we speak,

878
00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:33.039
not in words taught to us by human wisdom, but

879
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in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in

880
00:59:36.760 --> 00:59:41.119
spiritual words the Brian literal, which also we speak not

881
00:59:41.199 --> 00:59:43.679
in words taught of human wisdom, but in those taught

882
00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:50.159
of the Spirit, communicating spiritual things by spiritual means. So

883
00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:53.800
this is do you see the two concepts. Now, if

884
00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:59.960
we go back to the entire we read the entire context, right,

885
01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:02.960
we read the entire context. And if you look here

886
01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:06.519
at the very next verse, verse fourteen. But the natural

887
01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:09.280
man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God

888
01:00:09.440 --> 01:00:12.320
for their foolishness unto him, neither can you know them,

889
01:00:12.480 --> 01:00:16.400
because they are spiritually discerned. Now, verse fourteen could make

890
01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:20.679
an argument that wait, comparing spiritual things with spiritual is

891
01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:22.840
we're going to take these spiritual words that we were

892
01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:25.119
taught by the spirit and we're going to give them

893
01:00:25.159 --> 01:00:28.239
to who are spiritual. Because the natural man receiveth not

894
01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:30.440
the things of the Spirit of God. See, that's why

895
01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:36.039
the ESV kind of goes the direction it goes, all right,

896
01:00:36.719 --> 01:00:39.519
so we get the do we have the basic idea?

897
01:00:39.559 --> 01:00:43.320
I think we have the basic idea? Tewod Peter one

898
01:00:43.400 --> 01:00:48.239
twenty one Corinthians two thirteen. None of those passages are

899
01:00:48.280 --> 01:00:51.840
giving us hermeneutical principles and how to study the Bible,

900
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:54.719
how to interpret the Bible. That it's not teaching scripture

901
01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:56.920
with scripture. None of that is being taught in these

902
01:00:56.960 --> 01:01:00.400
passages of scripture. To do so is your doing is

903
01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:02.679
to Jesus, not exted Jesus. Now I went through all

904
01:01:02.679 --> 01:01:05.280
of that relatively quick. But just what I want you

905
01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:07.920
to see is, wait a minute. There was far more

906
01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:10.639
to these verses than what we heard in those sermons

907
01:01:10.840 --> 01:01:21.920
and that sermon. And that's the problem, isn't it, Because sermons,

908
01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:27.719
the very nature of sermons actually takes you away from

909
01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:30.920
the text. It blinds you from the text. It keeps

910
01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:33.880
you from the text because you actually work on the text.

911
01:01:34.280 --> 01:01:38.880
Is this tedious work which we just spent sixty one

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01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:44.800
minutes doing. Now, if you go to church and your

913
01:01:44.840 --> 01:01:47.320
pastor does what I just did for sixty one minutes,

914
01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:50.639
you look around the next week, there's not going to

915
01:01:50.679 --> 01:01:52.400
be half. The people are not going to come back.

916
01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:54.840
They don't want that. People claim they want to go

917
01:01:54.880 --> 01:01:57.559
to church to study the Bible, No they don't. If

918
01:01:57.559 --> 01:01:59.920
a pastor just did what we did for sixty one minutes,

919
01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:06.360
nobody would come back. They want sermons, they want it

920
01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:08.719
to be about them. They want application, they want it,

921
01:02:09.199 --> 01:02:11.320
they want it all put together. But to get to

922
01:02:11.360 --> 01:02:14.280
the text is messy, and it's difficult, and you struggle

923
01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:22.440
with this and this and this. The concept of the

924
01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:26.320
sermon I think has done more damage to actually understanding

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01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:30.480
the scripture. Maybe sermons are the number one culprit and

926
01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:42.559
destroying understanding of Biblical passages. But it is ironic that

927
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a sermon on how to interpret the Bible literally demonstrated

928
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misinterpreting Second Peter one twenty and First Corinthians two thirteen.

929
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There we go, I'll stop right there. Who that was

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01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:10.079
a lot of work. I hope that. I hope it

931
01:03:10.119 --> 01:03:12.360
all made sense. I hope it did. I was going

932
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through that really really, really fast. But if we need to,

933
01:03:20.719 --> 01:03:22.679
we can break it down in a far better way.

934
01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:25.239
I could organize it a little bit better if it

935
01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:28.519
need If need be, I definitely could. But I think

936
01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:31.000
we did. I think we did a relatively decent job there.

937
01:03:31.039 --> 01:03:34.119
I think we did relatively decent job. But it just

938
01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:38.679
demonstrates that. Look, if you talk to any Christians right

939
01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:43.599
many cases, they are very good at reciting basic hermeneutical principles.

940
01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:45.480
It's the thing is they don't apply them when it

941
01:03:45.480 --> 01:03:48.280
actually comes to preaching and teaching. Because we just heard

942
01:03:48.320 --> 01:03:51.079
a sermon that destroyed the meaning of on Peter two

943
01:03:51.159 --> 01:03:54.280
twenty and destroyed the meaning of First Corinthians two thirteen.

944
01:03:54.719 --> 01:04:03.559
Ladies and gentlemen, that is not acceptable. All right, we'll

945
01:04:03.599 --> 01:04:07.480
stop right there. I want to do more, but yeah,

946
01:04:07.559 --> 01:04:09.079
I want to kind of go back and then try

947
01:04:09.119 --> 01:04:13.119
to slow down a little bit, go a little slower, right,

948
01:04:14.039 --> 01:04:16.199
read some of that a little slower. I know, I

949
01:04:16.280 --> 01:04:18.320
was like flying like one hundred words per minute. But

950
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hopefully it all worked out in the meantime. We'll stop there.

951
01:04:22.119 --> 01:04:25.320
Thank you so much for listening. I hope uh. Well,

952
01:04:25.679 --> 01:04:29.320
it's the holiday weekend going into the holiday week. I

953
01:04:29.360 --> 01:04:32.440
hope it's great for everyone. I hope it works out

954
01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:35.840
as well as it can for you. For those that

955
01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:40.079
this is a difficult time of year, you find yourself depressed,

956
01:04:40.679 --> 01:04:48.000
past trauma, filling alone. Please please grab onto things that

957
01:04:49.159 --> 01:04:51.800
just try not to compare your situation with anybody else

958
01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:54.280
a's you get to just let everyone else's situation be whatever.

959
01:04:54.280 --> 01:04:58.559
They forget their situations. Grab onto those things that bring

960
01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:02.599
you happiness and joy for yourself. Grab on to that.

961
01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:04.960
Make the most of what you have. Don't look at

962
01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:07.440
what you have and say, well, other people they got

963
01:05:07.639 --> 01:05:10.480
all these people and they're gathering here and they've got family.

964
01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:16.400
You may be somewhere alone. Embrace in a censure you

965
01:05:16.519 --> 01:05:19.440
being alone, and make the most of it. Do exactly

966
01:05:19.480 --> 01:05:23.880
what you want to do. Enjoy yourself, right, so make

967
01:05:23.920 --> 01:05:26.599
the most out of it. I know that doesn't necessarily

968
01:05:26.679 --> 01:05:30.960
make all your feelings better, but yeah, if you can.

969
01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:33.880
You know, don't if you're looking at social media, looking

970
01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:36.480
at everyone post all their pictures about their get togethers

971
01:05:36.480 --> 01:05:39.039
and their families and they're talking about all the fun

972
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:43.360
they're having and everyone's getting to just kind of put

973
01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:45.400
your fingers in your ear and go la la la

974
01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:47.639
la la, la, la la la la. Get off social

975
01:05:47.760 --> 01:05:50.599
media and just say, okay, what do I have? And

976
01:05:50.639 --> 01:05:53.119
then grab onto what you have and embrace it and

977
01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:56.599
make the most of it. Okay, make the most of it,

978
01:05:57.440 --> 01:05:59.400
and if you would like, you can look up that

979
01:05:59.519 --> 01:06:01.679
series we talked about, and we just played a part

980
01:06:01.719 --> 01:06:06.039
of the sermon on Bible interpretation thirty six sermons. Go

981
01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:08.840
buy you a notebook, get you a Bible, get you

982
01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:13.719
some eggnog. Okay, And if it's just you, just go

983
01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:18.719
to town, have fun examining all their principles and dissecting

984
01:06:18.760 --> 01:06:20.880
it and thinking about it, or just listen to other stuff.

985
01:06:21.079 --> 01:06:23.559
And if that doesn't, just do whatever you want to

986
01:06:23.599 --> 01:06:27.639
do for fun. All right. I really do feel bad

987
01:06:27.679 --> 01:06:31.719
for people who find themselves in very difficult circumstances this

988
01:06:31.800 --> 01:06:37.519
time of year. I definitely understand. I could go through

989
01:06:37.559 --> 01:06:39.719
all different things that's happened in my life around this

990
01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:47.039
time of year. So yeah, so yeah, there's much more

991
01:06:47.079 --> 01:06:49.239
I'll say, but well I could say, but I'll just

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01:06:49.239 --> 01:06:52.440
stop right there. Everyone, have a great day. God bless