Nov. 13, 2024
Catholic Exorcisms
A discussion about the Catholic teaching on exorcisms.
A discussion about the Catholic teaching on exorcisms.
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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is
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the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central. What did you
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do overnight? Did you have any crazy experiences? Did you
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perhaps listen to a very very very very interesting, crazy
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strange podcast. I mean, after you listen to mine, which
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is not crazy or strange, may not even be interesting,
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But after you listen to mine, did you go listen
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to something pretty crazy, pretty strange, but very interesting. Did
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you Do you have any idea what I'm talking about? Well,
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if you weren't listening late last night, then you have
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no clue what I'm talking about. But I'm going to
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fill you all in as we talk about something I
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think very interesting, very important, and well we're going to
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do that right after I tell you that. It is Wednesday,
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November thirteenth, twenty twenty four. It is currently ten nineteen
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am Central time, and I am coming to you live
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from the Theology Central studio located right here in Abilene, Texas.
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For the last several years, the Catholic Church has noted
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and an alarming increase and the number of exorcisms performed
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and for some of the most disturbing and vicious cases
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of possession. One priest is often summoned. With almost two
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decades in ministry, renowned priests, Father Carlos Martin's has encountered
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evil in nearly every way imaginable, from Luigi boards and
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curses to witches and demonic packs. Father Martin's has battled
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the ancient serpent in many forms. The Exorcist Files are
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his stories. Now, late last night, I went live and
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I told everyone about this podcast called The Exorcist Files.
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And the reason it caught my attention is because, as
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of last night, it was number fourteen on the Spotify
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podcasting chart, and I'm like, whoa where did this come from?
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It has passed all kinds of other podcasts to make
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it to number fourteen, The Exorcist Files. And these are
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the files well of a priest who has been involved
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in some very let's just say, crazy situations. Now, you
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can believe the files, you can be skeptical of the files,
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you can question them, you can just completely reject them.
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But either way, it is very interesting to note that
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over the last several years, the Catholic Church has noted
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an alarming increase and the number of exorcisms performed. Why
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has there been this dramatic increase. Is it psychological, is
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it spiritual? Is it? What's going on? But well, not
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only what is going on to lead to that? Well,
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what happened? What happened during these exorcisms? What was the
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story leading up to the exorcisms? What was going on?
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So I played the trailer for you late last night,
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told everyone to go check it out, and of course,
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as soon as I finished my broadcast, well, the next
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thing you know, I was laying in bed with the
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lights out listening to the first episode ever of The
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Exorcist Files. And ladies and gentlemen. Wow, okay, Wow, is
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all I can say. I mean, I don't know. I
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don't want to give everything away. Let's just say the
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story involves a woman who cannot get pregnant, and the
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next thing you know, she's collecting dead bugs and then
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moves from bugs to well, it just gets crazy. Okay,
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it gets absolutely crazy, and it's the story of everything
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that happens. And wow, I mean you can go listen
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to it yourself. Now be warned. The Exorcist Files, I
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mean it's dealing with obviously a very intense subject, and
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some of the language in it is, you know, recounting
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what was said, and well, so obviously some of the
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language may be offensive to some of you. So if
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you do choose to go listen to it, I mean
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you're listening to some intense things and it's dramatized as well,
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so obviously some of it is not meant for, you know,
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children to be around. But if you go listen to it,
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you're kind of opening the door not only into this
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idea of Satan and demons and demonic possession and exorcisms,
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you're also opening the door into Catholic theology. Well, this
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is the Theology Central podcast, so that's right up my alley, right,
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And not only that. As many of you know, I
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attended a Catholic university pursuing a degree in Catholic theology,
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so that whenever I speak about Catholicism, I could do
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so at least from some level of knowledge and not
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from just complete ignorance or just from hearsay or what
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you know. I think I know trying to at least
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have some true understanding. By no means of mine an
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expert on Catholicism, not claiming that in any way, shape
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or form, but I have spent a lot of time
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trying to understand it and especially in this area of exorcisms.
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So because we talked about the Exorcist Files, I told
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everyone to go listen and hopefully you'll listen to at
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least the first episode is part one. It's two parts,
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and you can go listen to it and see what
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you think about it. The episode is called in fact,
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I have it right here. It is called No Life
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Without Death Case one, No Life Without Death Part one,
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No Life Without Death Part one, the Exorcist Files. This
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episode one was released on January the twenty fifth, twenty
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twenty three. So you can go listen and see what
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you think. Again, be warned. I'm giving you every warning
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possible that I can give you. Some of you may
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find it offensive, some of you may find the content disturbing.
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Just note that there's language and just no. I mean,
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it's dealing with the demonic, it's dealing with this whole concept.
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And would I would as always tell you, hey, be skeptical,
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be questioning. But I thought what I could do this
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morning is we'll try to add some broader context. Right,
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I thought I could try to add some broader context.
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So I put together a lot of things. I did
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try to look for some of my textbooks and notes
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from school, because, as I stated late last night, the
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whole concept of the Catholic Church and exorcisms and demon possession.
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Have always been interested in it when I look at
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the and this is just trying to give full transparency.
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Whenever I would see in the non Catholic world right,
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and the and the so called Protestant world and many
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who gets involved in deliverance and casting out demons and
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some of that, I always felt that it it gave
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me more of a sense of a production and fraudulent
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and what is this nonsense? And it came across just
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I don't know, I didn't, I didn't. I just never
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took any of it very serious. And a lot of
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it was connected to the Charismatic Church and charismatic theology.
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And you already know how I feel about charismatic theology.
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I think it's insane, it's crazy, and I think so
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much of what they do is just one big production
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and it's just fake. And how many how many times
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have they been you know, their healings and miracles have
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proven to be fraudulent over and over and over again.
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So I never gave that much. I just kind of
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always was dismissive of that. But when it comes to
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the Catholic Church and there are stories of exorcisms and
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some of that, I always felt, by no means do
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I agree with the theology, but I always felt like
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maybe I would love to be more or at least
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be able to witness their approach to it and actually
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see it and come face to face with it, because
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when we look, I mean, I think we can be
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honest with this. We all as Christians, we open our
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Bible and we hear about, you know, we're in a
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spiritual war, and we're like a man, we're in a
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spiritual war. Satan roam's about as a roaring line seeking
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whom he made devour. That's true. There are demons, there's Satan.
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We know all of that. But I believe so much
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of it is theoretical, right, it's theoretical. I mean, oh,
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people have their stories, but so many times their stories
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you can't really get much information, right. So I'm always
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skeptical about some stories where people supposedly have some encounter
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with the demonic or with the Satan, or with you know,
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something that's satanic. I always feel like a lot of
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it is just what in the world are you talking
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about like it's just crazy stuff? Like I remember some
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story back when he Back when I was a teenager,
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it was popular here in West Texas for churches to
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have these, you know, Friday night rock conferences where they
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told you about the evils of rock music, and on
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Saturdays they would hold a big, you know, bonfire and
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where you burn all your records. Crazy stuff. But I
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would go to the rock conferences for almost entertainment. I
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remember our stories. Someone was listening to Hell's Bell by
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ac DC, and demons came out of the speakers, and
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I'm like, what in the name of bubblegum are you talking? Like?
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This is crazy stuff? Right? So I was always dismissive
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of it. But again, for some weird reason, stories about
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exorcisms within the Catholic Church are always took I may
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disagree with it, but I thought it just felt that
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it was more, there was something more to it. It
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felt like it had some sense of authenticity to it.
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It wasn't because within the Catholic Church there's rules before
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they can even do an exorcism, there's other things that
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must take place. So I always took it a little
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bit more serious, at least from my perspective. I'm not
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saying my perspective is right. I'm just saying that that's
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very true. So I remember hearing some of these stories.
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I thought it was crazy. But at the same time,
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I've always been like, we talk about Satan, we talk
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about demons, we talk about all of this stuff. I
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want to encounter it, like I really want to. I
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want to come face to face with it, because then
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that takes all of the theoretical and makes it real,
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makes it practical. I want to be there, right. So
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then when I, you know, was attending, you know, working
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on my pursuing a degree in Catholic theology, anytime I
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could take courses dealing with Satan or we're dealing with
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exorcisms or demonic possession, anything I could any anything I
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could pursue there, I would do my best to try
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to try to just to try to understand their perspective. Again,
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not saying I agree with it, but seeking to understand it.
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So I thought, since I've told you about the Exorcist Files,
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and I want you to at least go listen to
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episode one, Part one, and part two, and then you
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can draw your own conclusion. Again, just be warned, there's
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some language. Be warned, the content is not meant for children.
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But you can listen to that first case file and
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go demonic or the woman just had some psychological problems.
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You can come to your own conclusion for yourself. But
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I thought we could step back and try to I
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could provide some context. Does that sound okay? So let's
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do this. The Catholic Church is teaching on exorcisms. On
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exorcism would be I think it would be claimed that
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it is rooted in scripture tradition. Of course, I mean,
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we're not shocked by that an official church doctrine. So
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if you want to understand the Catholic Church's teaching on exorcisms,
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well you would have to go to scripture, their tradition,
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and then the official doctrine of the Catholic Church, because
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and they're obviously their system, their theological system. The church
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is the one that has the authority to interpret the scriptures.
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So you would consider the scriptures and line of how
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the Catholic Church would interpret them, and we'll talk about
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that maybe a little bit more. So I'm going to
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attempt to try to outline some of the key points
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and citations and quotes from authoritative text such as the
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Catechism of the Catholic Church, which I have right here,
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the Catechism of the Catholic Church, the Right of Exorcism,
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and other official church documents. So that's what I'm going
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to try to cite the Catechism, the Right of Exorcism,
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and other official church documents so that we can have
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somewhat of an official understanding of what the Catholic Church teaches. Okay, Now,
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if you want, if you want just one simple thing
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to go to, if you have a copy of the
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Catholic Catechism, or if you look online. When you if
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you go online and it allows you to search by paragraph,
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you just need to find paragraphs sixteen seventy three and
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the Catholic Catechism, paragraph sixteen seventy three is the go
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to paragraph if you really want to get the Catholic
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understanding of exorcism. So I'll be referencing it multiple times
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and maybe reading it multiple times. All right, so let's
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start with this. Let's start with defining and understanding the
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purpose of exorcism within Catholicism. What is how do they
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define an exorcism, and what is the purpose of exorcism.
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All right, So this gets to more of a philological
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explanation because in your mind, a lot of times I
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hear non Catholics say things about Catholic exorcisms and they
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and it's like sometimes when I hear them talking, I'm like,
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have you ever bothered to do I don't know, more
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than watch a movie. Have you ever bothered to actually
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study what they believe? Because everything you're saying is a misrepresentation.
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You're bearing false witness, and this is true. The I'm
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gonna I don't want to take too much of a detour,
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but I do in a sense want to go, you know,
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get up on my soapbox and go on a mini rant. Here. Look,
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I don't care if you're talking about in fact, I'll
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pick it up right here. I don't care if you're
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talking about Satanism of the Anton Levey type of Satanism
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based right here on the Satanic Bible, right have the
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Satanic Bible right here. I don't care if you're talking
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about Satanism. If you're speaking of Satanism, whether I don't
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care if it's you as an individual doing so on
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social media. I don't care if you're sitting around talking
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to your friends. And I don't care if you're behind
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a pulpit as a pastor, if you're sitting there spreading lies, misinformation,
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and bearing false witness, that's a sin. I don't care.
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