Feb. 20, 2025
Bonhoeffer’s Thesis on Stupidity
A discussion about Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s thesis on stupidity.
A discussion about Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s thesis on stupidity.
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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is
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the Theology Central podcast, making Theology Central Good evening everyone.
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It is Wednesday, February the nineteenth, twenty twenty five. It
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is currently five fifty seven pm Central Time, and I
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am coming to you live from the Theology Central studio
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located right here in Abilene, Texas. Now, I had no plan.
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I had no intention to be live on the air
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right now. I had none. What I was doing is
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I was sitting here watching a live webcast on the
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sermon's two point oh app right. I was looking at
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all the live webcasts. There's like forty eight fifty two
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right now, fifty four fifty six. I mean, over the
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next about hour there's probably going to be one hundred
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two hundred live webcast going on. So I was I
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was watching one. There was no sound. There was someone
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standing behind the pulpit talking to a woman sitting in
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the front pew. She had her Bible open. She was
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obviously asking questions to the person standing behind the pulpit,
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who was trying to respond to her. They were kind
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of going back and forth. There was no sound. I
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don't know if the webcast hadn't begun yet I don't
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know what was going on. So I was just sitting
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here just kind of watching that, going okay, well, sure
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would like to hear the conversation shere, would like to
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hear these questions. It could be interesting. But since nothing
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is going on, let me go to another webcast. So
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I clicked on another webcast. I turned on the other webcast,
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and I'm gonna be honest with you, I almost turned
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it off because I started getting irritated, right because man alive.
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Sometimes when I listen to churches, I'm just like, I
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don't even know what this is. So it was a
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church giving their announcements. They're doing a chili cookoff, and
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if you win first place, you get one hundred dollars
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gift card. If you win second place, you get a
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seventy five. If you win third place you get a
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fifty dollars, So get your best chili recipes. We're having
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a chili cookoff, and I'm like, when did church is
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supposed to start having chili cookoffs? Then they're having a fellowship,
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then they're having this, then they're having this, and then
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and it was activity activity activity, activity, activity, and I'm like,
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that's what churches are today, they're an activity center, the
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a community center. None of these see and again we
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could get into regulative normative. But I was just like, man,
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this is why me and the church will never get along.
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I'm like, I don't even know what that is, but okay,
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all right, But I'm like, all right, I'm going to
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keep it listening because once the announcements are over, I'm
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assuming we're going to get the sermons. So the announcements
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were over, and then the pastor stood up and he
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told everyone he wanted to read one verse of scripture.
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And that verse of scripture was Judges chapter twenty one
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versus twenty one five Judges Chapter twenty one, verse twenty five,
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and I will read it. In those days there was
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no king in Israel. Every man did that which was
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right in his own eyes. There was no king in Israel,
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and everyone did that which was right in their own eyes.
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And he said that we are currently undergoing a cultural revolution.
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Things are changing now. He's very happy with at least
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part of what's going on in culture, especially from the
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top down. So I'm assuming he seems extremely happy with
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the things Trump is doing. He seems I mean, I
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don't know from the top down. I don't know where
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else you could who else he could be referring to
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than Trump, Right, So I guess he loves that Trump
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is blaming Ukraine for Russia invading them. I gotta love that.
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I guess he's fine with Trump saying, Hey, the Palestinians
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get moved out of Gaza and we take over. I
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guess he's happy with that. I guess he's happy with
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Trump making the implication that hey, if you're quote unquote
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saving the country, then you can basically do whatever you
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want and the law doesn't apply. You're not breaking any law.
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If some of the things that are being said lately
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are just absolutely insane to me. So already I'm like, okay,
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So the church is a community center, and it sounds
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like that if I go to this church, I guess
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I'm supposed to be happy with what Trump is doing
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and I'm not. So I'm already like, Okay, what is
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going on? What is going on? So he says that
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there's a cultural revolution happening and that we need to
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understand this cultural revolution and then we need to understand
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like how to fix it. I guess so I don't know,
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like if he's happy with what's happening top down, then
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I don't know what we need to fix. It's the
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cultural revolution. I was a little confused in listening to it.
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Is a cultural revolution something good happening? Or is the
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cultural revolution that's happening from the top down trying to
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fight all the bad stuff? And if it's from the
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top down, are you seeing the cultural revolution is either
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led by politicians or fixed by politicians? And is this
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being said behind a pulpit. I don't know. I was
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all confused about it, But at some point when it's uploaded,
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we will definitely be reviewing it because I think there
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is a cultural revolution going on. I completely agree. I
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just think we would not agree on what that cultural
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revolution is, Okay. I think I had a probably an
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hour long conversation with my daughter today talking about what's
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going on in the culture. And I have my own thesis.
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I have my own thesis of what's happening in the culture.
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And trust me, the people I will tick off when
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I describe what's going on in the culture will be Christians.
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I will be at odds with the Church. I think
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the Church is in the midst of a cultural revolution,
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and they don't even see what is happening. Well, I'll
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just make it simple. The Church is absolutely sacrificing its
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very soul on the altar of political power, political influence,
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and it hopes to shape the culture into a political ideology.
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They're gonna claim it's for Christianity. They're gonna claim they
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are selling their soul to political power, not to the Gospel,
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and the Church doesn't realize it. And that's okay. I
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will stand opposed to the entire church on this issue.
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I don't care if I'm in the minority of the minority.
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You are selling your soul for politics. You can't see it.
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Your political leader has become your God, and you won't
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see what's happening. But that's okay. That's okay. Your your
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entire way of thinking is being shaped by a political party.
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And it's insane to watch it happen. And it's being
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and Christianity is literally being hijacked for political expediency. The
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whole thing is a mess. So I have my own thesis.
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So I'm gonna obviously review his sermon whenever it's uploaded.
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I'm definitely looking forward to it because whether I agree
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or whether I disagree, I want to hear his thesis
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on what's happening in culture, and then you can hear
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his thesis, you can hear my thesis, and then you'll
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be able to decide. So everyone wins. So whenever it's uploaded,
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I cannot wait. So I was like, Okay, maybe maybe
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you know, I'll just keep listening. Maybe I'll take some notes.
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So I grabbed a notebook, I grabbed a Bible, and
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then all of a sudden, he mentioned Dietrich Bonhoeffer, and
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I'm like, oh, here we go. Dietrich Bonhoeffer. Now, Dietrich
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Bonhoeffer was a Lutheran theologian, and everyone leaves the Lutheran
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part out of that, especially when Baptist mentioned him or
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anything else. It's weird. On one hand, Lutherans, for many
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Baptists and for many Christians, Lutherans is a false gospel
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because they baptized babies and believe that's regenerative. They believe
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it that it saves, that it's salvific. That's a false gospel.
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That's not true, and they will condemn Lutheranism, But when
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it comes to some issues like Dietrich Bonhoeffer, they're like, oh,
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he was amazing. He was great. He was awesome, and
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it's like sometimes it's confusing, but now I do understand.
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Now that's one thing to say, Well, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, you know,
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we would disagree with this and this and this, but
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I do like what he said here. But typically when
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it's spoken of, we just forget all the philological issues
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we may have. But that's okay. It's so weird. So
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many times I had people recommend me Ditrich Bonhoffer. I'm like,
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so all of is theology. Well no, no, no, no, no, okay,
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So but you just spoke of him as if like
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he's the greatest thing in the history of mankind. Remember,
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Dietrich Bonhoeffer very much opposed what was going on in
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Nazi Germany and all the different things that happened there.
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But in this message, they didn't go into the history
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of Dietrich Bonhoeffer. And I'm not going to go into
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the history of Dietrich Bonheffer right now and all of that.
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I'm not going to do that right now. We could,
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but I'm not. Here's what's interesting, are you ready? He
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mentioned a thesis that Dietrich Bonhoeffer offered up. Now, Dietrich
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Bonhoffer offered up this thesis and what we would call
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letters and Papers from prison, Letters and papers from prison.
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This is where it comes from, this thesis, and this
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thesis would be referred to as a thesis on stupidity. Now,
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as soon as he mentioned the thesis on stupidity, I
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was like, whoa, Okay, this is That's awesome. Now. There
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would be so many things I would disagree with this church.
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But going to church on a Wednesday night and hearing
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someone mentioned Dietrich Bonhoffer's thesis on stupidity, they had my attention.
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You had me at hello, I can overlook your chili cookoff,
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I can overlook all of your entertainment because you mentioned it.
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And I'm like, okay, okay, dig into it. But he
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didn't really, he didn't want to really dig into the thesis.
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But I'm like, okay, then I'm not going to listen
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to you anymore. I'm going to turn on the microphone.
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I'm going to dig in to Dietrich Bonhffer's thesis on
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stupidity because there's a lot to talk about. So we're
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going to talk about Dietrich bon Hoffer's thesis on stupidity
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and then at some point, not today, hopefully tomorrow they
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will upload the the live webcast that I was just watching,
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and then we will review it, and then we will
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see where they I don't know where they were actually going.
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I don't know. Maybe he did dig into the thesis,
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but it sounds like he was just mentioning it and
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he was moving on. But oh, there's a lot there
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I would love to hear. So again, once again, it's
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you know, you take the sermon's two point, oh app,
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you start listening to anything literally one message, I mean
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this one message. I guarantee you could possibly lead to
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ten hours, fifteen, twenty hours of us discussing it. That's crazy.
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You open up an app, you start listening, and you're
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almost handed like twenty hours of content, twenty hours of
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study and discussion. Do you understand how invaluable that makes
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the sermon's two point oh app? I cannot stress that
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enough to you. All right, but so are you ready?
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Let's do a little bit of work on here. You're
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ready to dig into Ditrich Bonhoffer's thesis on stupidity? Are
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you ready? I think we should do this. Let's start
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just a basic definition of stupidity from the Oxford Language Dictionary.
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What do you think about that? All right? Stupidity having
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or showing a great lack of intelligence or common sense,
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having or showing a great lack of intelligence or common sense.
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Do you feel that now? I don't know if this
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is where the sermon went that I was listening to,
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but do you feel we are undergoing a cultural revolution
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right now? And what this cultural revolution, this cultural transition,
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and what we are seeing is we are walking into
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the era of stupidity. Do you think that possibly what
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is defining the age in which we are currently in
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is stupidity, that people show a great lack of intelligence
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and a great lack of common sense. I'm just saying
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Trump calls Zelenski dictator. That's okay, man, ooh boy, yeah, death.
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I'm gonna refrain from getting political the whole thing, okay,
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all right? Oh no, now, okay, another thing that Trump
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administration is doing. I'm getting all of these news articles
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all of a sudden, Okay, But but I will not
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connect it. I will not connect any dots. All right,
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But do you feel that we are walking clearly into
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a time where a lack of intelligence, a lack of
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common sense. Let's just say it. Stupidity is the spirit
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of the age now. In the nineties, I think there
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was a lot of discussion that the spirit of the
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age was relativism, moral relativism. We gotta fight moral relativism.
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So maybe, like in the time of Judges, there was
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no king in Israel and every man did what was
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right in his own eyes. Maybe the spirit of the
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age now is not that men or that everyone is
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doing what is right in their own eyes. Is that
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people think they're right in their own eyes and they're
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too stupid to know when they're not. Maybe that's the
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spirit of the age. Stupidity reigns, and so people can't
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even know when they are wrong. They can't even see
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that they're wrong. You can't even challenge them that they
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are wrong because they're too stupid to say. Now. I
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know that sounds mean, but I mean we're talking about
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Dietrich Bonhoeffer's thesis on stupidity, So I have to use
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the word stupid and I have to use the word
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stupidity because literally that's what the thesis is on. I
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will argue that we have entered into that era to
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some level. I think we have now what did Dietrich
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Bonhoeffer think, right, well, here we go. Let's go. Let's
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let's break this down a little bit. Dietrich Bonhoeffer's thesis
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on stupidity comes from his letters and papers from prison.
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This was written while he was imprisoned by the Nazis.
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His reflections on stupidity, particularly in contrast to malice, have
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become widely discussed in philosophical, ethical, and political context. Now
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