Dec. 13, 2024

Biblical Charting?

Biblical Charting?

A review of a sermon on biblical charting

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A review of a sermon on biblical charting

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is

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the Theology Central podcast, making Theology Central. Good afternoon, good

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early evening to everyone. It is Thursday, December the twelfth,

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twenty twenty four. It is currently five eighteen pm Central Time,

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and I'm coming to you live from the Theology Central

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studio located right here in Abilene, Texas. So what comes

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to your mind when you hear this term? Are you ready?

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Biblical charting? Biblical charting? What comes to your mind when

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you hear that term biblical biblical charting? What comes to

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your mind? Now? I think, at least for me, the

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idea is, Okay, I'm making some kind of chart in

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my study of the Bible to help me study the Bible.

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I'm taking things in the Bible. I'm creating a chart.

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I'm making some kind of chart in my Bible study.

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All right Now, I'm not a big chart making person, right.

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I love to make outlines, but to take anything and

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turn it into a chart, I'm not good at it.

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I'm just not good at creating charts. I mean, like,

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you can give me a pencil and rulers, and it's

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just I'm not gonna be able to make the chart

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even look anywhere close to the way I could. You

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could say, well, you could use different you know, you

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could use different programs to make a chart on the computer.

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I probably could, but I'm not a fan of that, right,

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I'm just maybe I should be, but I just kind

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of like to just grab paper or just start typing

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out and maybe almost everything goes in kind of an

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outline form. Sometimes I got a piece of paper like

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right here, and I just have stuff like stuff will

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be written, like it'll be like a point, then this

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will be another point, and stuff just scattered all over

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the place. Like if anyone was to see it, they'd

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be like, I can't even make any sense of that.

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What is that? It looks like you know, someone who's crazy.

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That's typically the way I do things now. I try

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to present it in an organized way, and I think

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somehow my mind because typically I can have something like

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this that's completely disorganized, but if you listen to me broadcast,

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it comes across as very outlined and organized. Because I

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kind of talk and outlines. I don't always do it properly.

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A lot of time, I'll say number one, but I

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won't say number two. That's that's frustrating. I do that broadcasting.

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Sometimes sometimes I'll say one, two, and sometimes I do

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it correctly, sometimes I don't. But my mind is always

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thinking in an outlining way. Now, the reason I sometimes

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will say number one and not say number two is

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because I'm not I don't have anything on paper right,

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I don't have anything outlined right. I'm just I'm making

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the outline up as I speak. So that's kind of

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the way I approach things. Other people like it very

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organized and lay that, and the people who can make

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nice charts, I mean, like, I look, I have nothing

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but respect for that, because if I look at it,

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I'll be like, wow, that looks really awesome. I look,

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I can see okay, oh yeah that that that that

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that so I can I can see that. So I

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think when it comes to biblical charting, and that's why

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whenever I teach Bible study methods. Whenever I teach Bible

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study methods, what I typically do is I try to say, well,

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outlining is my preferred method, but you could just summarize,

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or you could just list or you And even when

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I say outline, I always say, don't worry about doing

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it completely correct, like Roman numeral one and then one

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two or or you know, capital a small A and

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break it all down. I don't care how correct it

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is when it comes to outlining. I just want you

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to get what's on the text to right because I

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want you to see it, process it, and then write

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it down. I just want you to get it on paper.

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I don't care if it's correct right now. That bothers

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some people. If you're going to do an outline, it

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needs to be academically correct. Well, nobody's getting graded here.

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I just want you to study the Bible right. So

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I tend to throw out like you could do it

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this way or that way, because I know people are

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very different. Some people could sit there and make a

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chart and they love it. They're great at it, and

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it's it's going to capture everything in a really awesome way.

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Others are like, if you want me to chart, it's over.

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It's done. Like put me in an art class. I'm

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failing art class, ladies and gentlemen. Hi, if they tell

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me to trace a straight line with a ruler, I'm

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going to fail. They tell me to color inside the lines,

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I'm probably coloring outside the line. I'm going to fell

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an art unless it's just like, just do whatever you want,

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no rules. No, then maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe so.

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But I think then when it comes to Bible study,

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you got to give people a lot of options so

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that they can construct a Bible study method that at

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least plays to their strengths, right. They don't want to

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necessarily play to their weakness. Now, in some cases people

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are just we can study. Well, then you've gotta have

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to kind of force them, Well, you need to study,

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because well, we're called to study the Bible. But you

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can shape study methods that work with their strengths. Some

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people need that chart I'm not good at it, right,

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So but why am I even asking you? What comes

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to mind when you hear the term biblical charting? What

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comes to your mind is because just about fifteen minutes ago,

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I open up the sermons two point oh app clicked

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on Newest Sermons, and I saw a sermon entitled biblical

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Biblical if I can read correctly, not even I'm not

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even reading it. If I can speak correctly biblical right,

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or biblical charting, however you would like to see it right,

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biblical charting. And so I saw that, I'm like, well,

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that looks interesting. So I downloaded it and I'm like,

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let's review it. And then I thought, well, should I

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listen to it first? I haven't listened to it first,

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So this could be really embarrassing if this is not

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about actually biblical charting the way I'm thinking of it. Like,

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if you want a definition to biblical charting, here's the definition.

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Biblical charting refers to creating visual tools such as diagrams, tables,

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or charts, to organize, summarize, or analyze biblical information. It

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is a method often used in Bible study to help

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learners see connections, contrast, and overarching themes within scripture. Let

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me read that to you one more time. Biblical charting

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refers to creating visual tools such as diagrams, tables, or charts,

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to organize, summarize, or analyze biblical information. It is a

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method often used in Bible study to help learners see connections, contrast,

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and overarching themes with in scripture. Biblical charting aids comprehension

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by presenting complex or extensive information and a structured and

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visually accessible format. So when I hear the term biblical charting,

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that's what I think of a Bible study method or

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a tool used in Bible study. Method like you could

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do I guess technically, you could do the chapter summary

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method We've talked about it and create a biblical chart.

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You could turn it into a chart. You could do

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a devotional method, you could do biographical, topical, thematic, and

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many of those methods actually call for making some kind

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of a chart. I just never teach the charting part.

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I never teach the charting part because one I'm never

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going to do it. I'm just gonna be because even

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if I try to, you would look at my paper

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and go, what is wrong with you? You would just

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walk up and slap me in the back of the head.

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What is wrong? Get that demon out of you. There's

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something wrong with you? Okay, what is wrong? You just

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start slapping me around. You'd be like, what is wrong

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with you? And then I'd get mad. I'm like, how

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dare you? But yeah, and I would look at you

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and go, You're right, I don't know what I'm doing.

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I can't make a chart, ladies and gentlemen. So I

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always teach it without ever going into any of the

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charting ideas that are typically suggested, because some people need it.

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But so I see a message called biblical charting. So

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immediately this is what I'm thinking. It's about this. I

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don't know if that's the case, right, So this could

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go this could go completely wrong. But I'm just telling

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you when I see the title biblical charting, that's what

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I'm thinking of. We're going to find out if it's

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going to go that direction or the pastor has something

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completely different in mind that I don't know, but I'm

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just telling you my presupposition is biblical charting. Biblical charting

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is about creating visual tools such as diagrams, tables, or

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charged to organize, summarize, or analyze biblical information. It is

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a method often used in Bible study to help learners

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see connections, contrasts, and overarching themes within scripture. Biblical charting

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aids comprehension by presenting complex or extensive information and a

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structured and visually accessible format. So all of you out

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there who are good at charting, well maybe this is

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going to be for you. So for all of us

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who aren't good at charting, what we can possibly glean

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from this is some principles or ideas that we can

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take and find a way to utilize these concepts. But

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not in a chart format, in a non chart format.

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All I know, you give me principles of how to

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be a better Bible student. I'm listening, so I'm all ears.

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Even though this could go completely wrong. I could be like, oh,

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biblical charting, yes, and then he could be like, biblical

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charting is. I don't know what he's going to do.

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It looks like Acts twenty seven is the text, so

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we're just gonna find out together. We're not. The goal

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here is not to necessarily review all of this. It's

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sixty two minutes, ladies and gentlemen, sixty two minutes. So

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there's no way we're gonna be If I try to

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review this, we'll be here till I don't know, August

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of twenty twenty seven. Okay, we'll never finish it. So

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let's just see how far we can get and just see.

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What we can learn.

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Biblical biblical charting, biblical biblical? Which do you prefer? Biblical biblical?

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I think biblical? Right? Right?

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I mean that right?

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Okay, all right, yeah, we can have that discussion, right,

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I always do that. I'll say biblical biblical, yeah, and both,

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I mean both have their plays, right? Is there a

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right way wrong. Oh yeah, we could. Let's make a chart. Okay, well,

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I won't get into that right now. Look are you ready?

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Here we go, Biblical charting. Yeah, and I'm looking at

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the title. Now, I haven't looked at the title Biblical charting,

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I think would be the correct way to say this.

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And let's and I think it's called I think the

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total of the title, because now I'm looking at the

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title Biblical Charting Principles. Biblical Charting Principles. All right, So

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now this gives me a little bit greater confidence that

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this is about biblical charting the way I'm understanding it.

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We're going to find out, and we're going to find

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out right now.

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The following messages preached from the pulpit of Bible Baptist Church,

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O Carb Washington. I have a little bit of familiarity

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and practical experience charting and then navigating what has been

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put on the chart, and then trying to explain that

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I wanted to back up a little bigger. I was

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a navigator in the Navy, but broadly speaking, I was

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a Naval flight officer an NFO, and people when they've

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asked me what an NFO is doesn't matter what I

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say at the end of my explanation. They usually say, oh,

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so you fly planes, And I try and say no, no, no,

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and then you just give up. You just say, h yeah,

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I'm a naval aviation So in contrast to a naval aviator,

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the pilot types an NFO, and we sometimes jokingly refer

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to them in our community as non flying officers. The

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NFO is the one who performs all the other tasks,

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not holding onto the stick or the yoke, but everything

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else going on. They perform the tasks other tasks in

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the aircraft in coordination with the naval aviators, the pilots

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for mission accomplishment. And I did that without even making

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a dig at pilots, and I think I should we

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as NFOs, sometimes call them automated or voice activated stick monkeys,

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which is they're just a little animal up there with

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the stick in the hand, and we tell them what

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to do, and they make houses get bigger and houses

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get smaller doing what the NFOs tell them. That that's

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not necessarily the case. But if you know a little

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bit about naval aviation. Back in the day when we

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have the F fourteens fourteen Tom and then started strapping

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bombs on him, and they called him the bombcats. Well,

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the NFO, the Naval flight officer in the F fourteen

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was called the real the radar intercept officer in the

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A six intruder manly Man plane. We have on a

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stick somewhere out here in town right near that one

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of the entrances to the base. A six intruder. The

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Naval flight officer NFO was called the bn The bombed

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your navigator. He sat in the rio, always sat behind

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the pilot. In the A six with the big bulb

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of snows, he sat on the right side of the pilot.

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I thought, that's what.

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So is he going to connect charting to his military

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career being in the plane? This is interesting because his

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perception of charting. Is he going to utilize something with

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that to talk about charting because someone else like it.

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If you're in the medical world, right, a doctor may

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talk a about charting, it's going to be a completely

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different concept, right, a doctor's concept of charting versus someone

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in a plane doing that. All the other responsibilities sometimes

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referred to as a non flying officer, like there was

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is this going to I wonder if it was, if

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it would impact it. And now again, he may not

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even be going with the idea of biblical biblical charting

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the way I've explained it. He may be going in

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a different direction. But it's interesting he's starting with all

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of his military experience. Okay, I'm just how is this

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going to end up with biblical charting? And what would

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it sound like if it was someone who was in

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the medical profession and they talked about doing their charting right,

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how would it sound would it be different? Would the

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do the principles transfer over? Like You've got charting concepts

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and lots of different areas in life. Do those principles

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transfer over? When I pick up a Bible, I'm gonna

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and I'm going to do biblical charting? Do the principle?

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Are the principles transfer deferrible? Now, and typically when it

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comes to study, reading, comprehension, breaking a text down, interpreting

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a text, hermeneutical principles are transferable from what we learn

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and you know, reading and interpreting literature to the Bible, right,

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I think that's important. Genres of literature, the Bible has

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genres of literaty, so they are transferable. So is the

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charting concept transferable? Let's see where this goes.

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I wanted to do, and then as I was going

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through my flight training, they said A six is out

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of here, So I had to find another job. As

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opposed to bombedier navigator in the Growler that you now

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see flying around here, the NFO does communications, navigation, electronic warfare,

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and the old Prowler they used to call the three guys.

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They had the three NFOs, one in the front next

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to the pilot and two in the back. They used

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to call them ekmos. Maybe you've heard that from this

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area in the past, electronic countermeasures officers, those were all NFOs.

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What about in the everyone's favorite plane, the EP three

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areas two, which is starting to make their trips down

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to the boneyard Davis, Mothin and Tucson, Arizona. Let me pause. No,

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I'm not crying like I normally do when I preached.

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This is just shedding a tear for the EP three.

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They haven't shut down the squadron yet. That's coming in

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the coming coming months. So in EP three we had

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three NFL positions. You had the navigator and I did that.

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That held all three positions. Then after you got tired

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of navigating. You got to go in a little further

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back in the plane and worked with the electronic intelligence operators,

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and you were the electronic warfare evaluator. And then after

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you did that for a year and you've continued on

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your qualifications, you became the senior electronic warfare evaluator. And

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then eventually, if the skipper liked you and had enough

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confidence in you, he would make you a mission commander.

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And so you were an electronic warfare mission commander and

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held all those positions, But it started with the navigator.

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Spot Now I'm somewhat impressed, okay, because I spent nineteen

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years in the military active duty. Then of course everything happened,

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and medically retired to one hundred percent disabled. I'm not

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going to go through my whole story, but I always

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find it fascinating when I either see someone maybe online

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posting in a comment section or something about their military experience,

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and they will refer to all these acronyms and all

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these job titles, right boom boom boom, boom boom boom

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boom boom, boom boom boom. And if I even meet

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people who I was in the military with, I may

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refer to this or this or this or this or this,

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and I am in capable of doing There's some there's

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some terminology I remember, but I was never good with

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the acronyms and this job title and this and what

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was the job code? And this and this, and I

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did not and and I look at this kind of

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two ways. Sometimes I look back with regret, right Like,

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I mean, I haven't been on the military base in

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a very long time. But if I was getting my

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car and drive to Diis Air Force Base and go

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on base, I could drive around and look at all

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the different things I did on that base, the different

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you know, experiences I had, and all the different things good,

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bad and different, But there would be one part of

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me that I did. I can say this emphatically. In

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my nineteen years in the military, I never really I mean,

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I did lots of things. I have lots of stories,

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but I couldn't tell you job titles and this and

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the name of this. I could use any of the

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military terminology. In fact, if someone was talking to me,

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they could possibly even accuse me. I don't think you

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were ever in the military, because I could come across

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very ignorant from someone in the military speaking to me

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because I just never really embraced all of it. Right,

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So in some ways I regret it because I was there,

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I was in it. I could have really embraced it

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more and gotten more from it, since it took up

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nineteen years of my life, right, I could have. I

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could have really done that, but I didn't. And the

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reason I didn't is from the very moment I arrived

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at off At Air Force Base. I've told the story

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a million times. I mean, I had probably not even

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been on base more than two or three hours. I

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was like, Okay, I got into the military to go

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to school. I'm ready to find a Bible college. I'm

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ready to start studying. Okay, what do I have to

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do to get my educational bill? Okay, oh wait, Grace

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University is downtown Omaha on my way. I'm signing up

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for classes. I'm going to great university. I don't care.

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All I care about is getting Bible education. So while

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I was in the military, I've told the story before,

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I'm working full time military. In some cases, I was

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a full time student and two or three different schools

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I was going to school. I felt like all I

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did in the military was go to school. But I

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was pursuing theological education. Theological education, theological education because I

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wanted to know more about theology than anybody else. I

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wanted to know more about the Bible than anybody else.

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I wanted how to interpret it, how to understand it.

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I wanted to know church history. I want That's what

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I wanted to know. So I can talk theology with anyone, Right,

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you want to talk theology, you want to talk church history,

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you want, man, I can go. I can just just

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like a I know that, But all the military language

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I don't really know. In some ways, I regret it.

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And here's the reason I regret it. Now, if I

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would have learned all that military terminology, you'd still I guess,

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and this way you end up in the same boat.

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Right.

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If I would have learned all all of that military language,

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remember all of the terminology, then I could just sit

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around telling boring stories of when I was in the military.

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And sometimes I do tell boring stories when I was

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in the military, all right, But I could I could

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tell those boring stories when I was in the military

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and use some of the terminology, maybe in a more

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accurate or correct way. But guess what, nobody really cares. Right,

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nobody cares. Nobody cares. Nobody cares that you're in the military,

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nobody cares what you did, because it's it's just something

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in the past. So I would still be left, you know,

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to quote the famous lyric, I just sit around telling

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boring stories of the glory days. Nobody cares about those.

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And I don't want to be sitting around telling talking

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about the glory days, even sometimes I will. Overall, I

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hate doing that. So I even if I would have

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done that, I guess I would have maybe more experiences

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to talk about and talk about it in a more

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authentic way, but i'd be left with nothing. But at

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the same time, you know what I've come to regret,

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all of that time, all of those hours, all of

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that pursuing philological education, pursuing theological education. You know what

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it ultimately means in the end, Absolutely nothing, Because when

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it comes to Christianity, especially the non Catholic side in

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the Protestant world, all of your theological education is useless

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because someone who's never even read a systematic theology or

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even read a book on hermonutics will say, you were wrong,

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you were wrong, you were wrong, you were wrong. You

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were wrong. You were wrong. So your education is meaningless.

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It's useless. It's a waste of time and money, it

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really is. And because I gained theological education, not so

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that I could join a specific theological team and make

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everyone happy. I got the philological education where I could

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challenge question and to go a point where I could

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do theology, not simply parrot what some system of theology said. Okay,

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well that that did not work well for me, right,

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that just ticks off people and offends people. And then

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you don't have a team. And if you don't have

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a team, you're a nobody in Christianity. You've got to

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have a team. You got to find that support. You

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got to have those people who will back you up. Well,

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the minute you lose all teams, then you are an outsider.

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You are unclean, unclean. And so in some ways I

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kind of regret that I can't stand there and tell

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the stories the way he's telling the stories. But and

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the other way, I kind of even feel stupid that I, well,

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everybody was, you know, embracing the military culture. I was

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like systematic theology, systematic biblical biblical theology, the systematic theology. This, okay,

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this this, Oh, learn this, and it didn't really matter

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when it all comes down to it. A right, that

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doesn't get near biblical charting, right. But let's see, I'm

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curious which way he's going to go. But I just

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had to at least acknowledge that because he's telling all

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these stories, he's using all of the terminologies and the acronyms,

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and it's like, man, he remembers it all precisely, like

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I would be telling a story and a completely like

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I could tell the story and people like I don't

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think you were really in the military, and I understand.

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I mean, I've got all the documentation. I've got my

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one disabled from the VA and what happened to me,

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and I've got my retire you know, military ID. I've

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got all my documentation if anyone needs to see it. Okay,

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But all right, here we.

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Go P three, or the better version, the EP three.

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You got a couple of pilots up there in front.

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You have a flight engineer behind them, and then right

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below the flight station on the right side is where

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we had the navigator pause. All the way back in

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college in the Reserve Officer Training Corps down in Albuquerque,

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New Mexico, at the University of New Mexico. We had

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to take either a semester or a full year. I

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must not have liked navigation, because I can't remember how

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long it was, if it was a one or two

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semester course. And of course they were kind of gearing

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us up for these big Hayes gray underway things that

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bob up and down that I've heard about. Carlos keeps

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telling me he's going to tell me about what these

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ships are someday. So they taught us some basic navigation skills,

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as they would. Really.

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Now, this is always and this is just I want

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to get to biblical charting, but this is about preaching.

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This is always the danger for the preacher when you're

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going to use some illustration, right. He obviously he wants

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to use this to get to biblical charting. This is

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his kind of like opening illustration. That's supposed to be

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your hook, Right, You're trying to pull everyone in, But

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there's there's a limit, Like what You've always got to

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be careful, right, Like, there's a lot of people who

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will hear this. Now, maybe his entire church is filled

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with military members, but even if the military members get it,

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a lot of the spouses are gonna be like, I

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don't know what you're even talking about. They're not in

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the military. The young people, and they're like, okay, planes,

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got it, got it? Okay, what does this do with

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biblical charting?

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Right?

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So you can lose your audience. It's not like I

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would like I could be using things that I love.

462
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Right.

463
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I could talk about literature, right, I could talk about

464
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film analysis, I could talk about music. I could talk

465
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about professional wrestling. Well, I could use that to try

466
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to set the hook to bring people into what I'm saying.

467
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But after a while, if I go too long, I'm

468
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just gonna lose people. Like you got to be very careful.

469
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So I'm not saying he's going too far or too long.

470
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I'm just saying, at some point, all of these acronyms,

471
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all of these names, all of these planes, Okay, you're

472
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gonna tell me you made charts where you could have

473
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just said when I was in the Navy, I was

474
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in a position where we had to make these charts.

475
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Here's what the charts were, here's what we use them for. Boom,

476
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and then you get right into it. But as pastors,

477
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we all make this mistake, especially if it's something that

478
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like this was his life. The more you have an

479
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emotional connection to the more sometimes you will elaborate and

480
00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:30.200
spend more time on when you shouldn't. And it's always

481
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:35.079
difficult to know that balance. Oh, I don't think we

482
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ever get it right as a pastor. I think sometimes

483
00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:40.599
we could say more. Sometimes we could say sometimes it's

484
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best not to say anything at all and just go

485
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right into We're gonna talk about biblical charting. Boom, Here's

486
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what biblical charting is. Here are the different types of

487
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biblical charts. Here's how you make one. We're gonna make

488
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because I could go through there's chronological charts, the medic charts,

489
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there's comparative charts. There's genealogical charts. There's doctrinal charts to

490
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the literary st up your charts. There's prophetic charts. There's

491
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like seven different charts which chart what's the purpose of

492
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each other. You could go into that, like, maybe he

493
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still will. But this is just what I'm noticing, and

494
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I'm not criticizing because I make the same mistake. I

495
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:17.079
make the same mistake in my podcast. You hear it

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00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:19.519
all the time. I'll spend too much time in my

497
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opening illustration, and then are my opening my introduction, And oh,

498
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I make the mistake all the time.

499
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To being on the water as opposed to under the water,

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or as opposed to over the water, where I wound

501
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up navigating. And so after I got into flight training

502
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and did some things down in Pensacola, Florida, the Navy

503
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sent us to an air force base of all places,

504
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Randolf Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas, for six

505
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months of heat Texas heat in the middle of the summer.

506
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But while we were enjoying the heat and the river

507
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walk and seeing the alley on all those things, and

508
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eating good new Mexican Texas version of Mexican food.

509
00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:09.759
I okay, let's stop right there. Let's remember the Alamo.

510
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He said, the Alamo. And when you say Texas version

511
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:16.720
of Mexican food, it's called text mes. Okay, but he

512
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said the Alamo. A moment of silence as we remember

513
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:24.480
the Alamo. Ok Okay, I'm playing around, but yeah, that's

514
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where I went to basic training in San Antotio, Texas.

515
00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:29.440
I was at Lachlan Air Force Base. See I could

516
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:31.759
I could tell my own military stories, right, but yes, sorry,

517
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:35.880
text mechs the Alamo. All right, good, that's all. That's it.

518
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The sermon is over. You don't once you hear the Alamo,

519
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ladies and gentlemen, that you have peaked and preaching the

520
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minute you mentioned the Alamo. Everything else is downhill from

521
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the I'm joking. I'm joking.

522
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Hey, learned how to dr dead reckon as a navigator

523
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and used HOTTI. Learned how to use an inertial navigation

524
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system and learn how to believe it or not, look

525
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up at the star and crunch a bunch of numbers

526
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out of these big books we used to have. I'm

527
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:06.880
sure it's all calculators and computers now, but we had

528
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to literally go through these books and look up numbers

529
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and do calculations and plug them in and then look

530
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through the sextent and say, mister instructor, I see a

531
00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:19.680
million stars, which one is it? I'm supposed to be

532
00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:23.759
taking a fix on. So learned that lots of chart work,

533
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:27.240
lots of chart work. That's probably what Andrew and Joel remember,

534
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:30.079
maybe that far back. My wife remembers going into the

535
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bedroom aside of it and seeing big table we had,

536
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and that was where I sat for hours on end

537
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:40.039
and did charting and then we would go out in

538
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:43.839
the navigation trainer, a T forty three that had a

539
00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:46.960
bunch of navigation positions on it for the student navigators,

540
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:50.759
and we would fly around Texas and other places practicing

541
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navigating what we had put on our charts, turning points

542
00:31:55.319 --> 00:32:01.640
and timing and fuel planning and threats, weather threats, geographical threats,

543
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:04.559
physical threats, depending on if you're in a different type

544
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of go fast.

545
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:11.160
Right, so we get the idea he made charts. Now

546
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:14.799
he's seeing the charts were used for different things, all right, Okay,

547
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:18.880
so he charted different things. Okay, great, Now he's obviously

548
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using this to set up biblical charting. Again. It would

549
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be interesting if if we took the different types of

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00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:28.960
charting that's out there in different professions, do they all

551
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:31.839
transfer over? I've already asked that question on being repetitive,

552
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But okay, that's where I'm going, all right. I don't

553
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:35.519
know if we're going to even get to the actual

554
00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:38.079
biblical charty because he's taking so long here. But that's okay,

555
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:41.440
that's okay, that's okay. We learn about sermon structure here,

556
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we talk about all these things. So let's just see

557
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what happens.

558
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Solow type of jet. You mark out where radio towers

559
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are and where power lines are and things like that.

560
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Then if you're going into combat, you mark out the

561
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adversarial threats, the surface to air missile threat rings and

562
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:01.359
things like that, and where all the triple A is

563
00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:05.640
on the border of North Korea. Well, soon after completing that,

564
00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:09.839
we showed up here February of ninety five and I

565
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:13.960
checked into Fleet E Reconnaissance Squadron one as an unqualified

566
00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:19.440
navigator trainee, and my clearance came in and they said, boom,

567
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:22.319
you're on that crew as a navigator trainee. Off you

568
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go to the Westpac to fly around Japan, sitting at

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the navigation pause a position on the aircraft with an

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instructor behind me to thhack my head hard or to

571
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whack me hard every time I made a mistake. And

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I appreciated that, because you don't want to make navigation errors,

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which is the whole point of the message tonight. Once

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you do all your chart work, well, eventually I got

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qualified as a navigator, and.

576
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Then this illustration is going on and on and on

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and on. Now it'd be interesting, I think everyone everyone

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would hear this is the This is the difficulty with preaching.

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There's some people who would listen to this and be

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00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:10.960
captivated by it, love it. There would be other people like,

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come on, get to the biblical charting, right, get to

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the Now I'm curious. I hope, I hope. I'm getting

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nervous now because I just looked down. If this is

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Acts twenty seven, this is Paul, He's sent to Rome.

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Then we have a storm and we have a shipwreck.

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Is this gonna be about charting in the midst of

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a storm? Is he just gonna He's not talking about

588
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:42.719
biblical charting the way I'm thinking, Oh, this could get

589
00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:46.440
very embarrassing. Now I'm getting nervous. Now I'm getting really, really,

590
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:51.159
really nervous. Okay, oh boy, oh boy, oh come on,

591
00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:53.599
do you want to put your bets in there. We're

592
00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:57.599
not actually doing gambling, your pretend bets. How many think

593
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that he's actually going to talk about biblic charting, and

594
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:03.840
how many think he's just going to use the idea

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of charting as navigating the difficulties of life. See now

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I think he may be saying biblical Biblical charting is

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about navigating the difficulties of life and he's going to

598
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use it more in as an allegorical way. When I

599
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saw biblical charting, I was like, boom, which kind of chart?

600
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:27.000
Chronological thematic? Okay, all right, I don't like charting, but

601
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I want to hear the principles. Did I get it

602
00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:31.599
completely wrong? Let's find out.

603
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Became an instructor and then a navigator evaluator, and continued

604
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on into the back of the plane to do other

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mission stuff. So then I asked myself, as Pastor Sergeant

606
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was sharing with me, I am thinking the theme of

607
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the year is going to be about charting the course

608
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for the church, our future, not just twelve months out,

609
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but like twenty five years out. And I heard charting charting,

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and I had flashbacks. I don't know if they were

611
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all good or bad, but I had flashbacks to my

612
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:05.320
time as a navigator. And at that point I started

613
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:09.159
asking myself, is there any charting in navigation in the

614
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Bible that we could turn to and draw some scriptural

615
00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:16.000
lessons from. Oh?

616
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:21.800
No, I have completely missed this. Now they're talking about

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charting the course of the church, principles of charting your

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00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:30.320
like your life. He's hey, I thought this is going

619
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to be about Bible study methods. Oh man, did I

620
00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:41.159
met this up so bad? Okay, now stop laughing. Stop

621
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I see you laughing. Stop it, stop it. It's not funny,

622
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:48.880
all right, it's not fun If you say biblical charting,

623
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you gotta be talking about making an actual chart. Come on, now,

624
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:57.360
this is a setup, right, this was a setup. Now

625
00:36:57.360 --> 00:36:59.920
I'm getting ready to look complete. I got notes here

626
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:03.440
on biblical charting, right, I got notes in it. I

627
00:37:03.480 --> 00:37:06.960
gave you a definition, I got the examples of biblical charting.

628
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:10.159
I got the benefits of biblical charting. I got how

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to start biblical charting. And then I was going to

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try to at least make something on Acts twenty I

631
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was gonna say, okay, if Acts twenty seven he's gonna

632
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:25.039
be working through his chart of Acts twenty seven. I

633
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know what I'll do. I'll try to make I'll try

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to make my own chart, but without like a chart.

635
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:32.360
I'll be making like I'll be breaking down the chapter

636
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:35.119
more in my like outline kind of way, right, so

637
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would and I was gonna try to adapt his principles

638
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:43.440
as I in real time tried to chart Acts twenty seven.

639
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:48.480
Oh man, I was, oh man, I cannot believe. Obviously

640
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:53.199
I did not make a good navigating chart when thinking

641
00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:55.960
about doing this sermon review. This is embarrassing.

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All right, here we go. Well, last Lord's Day, Pastor

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00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:04.719
Sergeant had us. God had us through a leading pastor.

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Sergeant had us in Acts chapter fifteen in the morning

645
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in the evening, preaching about decision making for a church

646
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in the morning and then chief men in the evening,

647
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both from Chapter fifteen. Wednesday night. At our midweek service,

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the Lord directed us to Acts chapter sixteen, and a

649
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:26.239
good victory with Eunice and her son Timothy, and the

650
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:28.880
unfeigned faith that was in her mother Lois that went

651
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:32.840
through Unice down to Timothy. And we went along that

652
00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:36.280
road to the vision that was given to Paul that

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00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:40.920
was immediately confirmed by all. And so, after meditating on

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again the theme of charting our course far far forward

655
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:48.280
in the future of Bible Baptist Church, I couldn't help

656
00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:52.639
but draw from my past naval navigating in meditating on

657
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:55.800
the naval charting and navigation of the Book of Acts again,

658
00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:02.800
this time chapter twenty seven Acts Chapter twenty seven. I'm

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not going to read the entire chapter. I'm going to

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read a good portion starting at the beginning, and then

661
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.719
I'll jump to the last few verses just to kind

662
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:14.480
of close out the historical account here. And you might

663
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:21.320
be thinking, already, really really, pastor geist, we're charting a

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course and you turn to a passage in the scriptures

665
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where there's a shipwreck and the ship falls apart and

666
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they have to swim to land or grab a piece

667
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:34.800
of the ship that was broken up. And I do

668
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:37.559
find that I have to admit a little humorous that

669
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that's where we'd be tonight. But I think the point

670
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is it'll be well served. We're looking at biblical charting principles,

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00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:50.599
and you can learn from the negative as well the positive,

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and I think we'll see some of that here tonight.

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So Acts twenty seven again, I'm going to read down

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to verse twenty five, and then if I remember, i'll

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skip down to the very end. I'll pick up in

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verse thirty forty two to close out the chapters. So on,

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don't you follow along if you will in your copies

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of the Word of God. Here in Acts twenty seven,

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and when it was determined that we should sail into Italy.

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And interesting again, it's the Wei so good doctor Luke

681
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:27.719
is there, sailing along as well, they delivered Paul and

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certain other prisoners under one named Julius, a centurion of

683
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:34.920
Augustus band and entering into a ship of ed rem medium,

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00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:37.920
we launched, meaning to sail by the coasts of Asia,

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one Aristarchus of Macedonia Thessalonika being with us, and the

686
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next day we touched it Sidon, and Julius courteously entreated

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Paul and gave him liberty to go onto his friends

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to refresh himself. And when we had launched from thence,

689
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:54.840
we sailed under Cyprus because the winds were contrary. And

690
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when we had sailed over the sea of Cilicia and Pamphilia,

691
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we came to Myra, a city of Lycia, and there

692
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:04.480
the Centurion found a ship of Alexandria sailing into Italy,

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and he put us therein. And when we had sailed

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slowly many days and scarce, were come over against Nidas,

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the wind not suffering us. We sailed under Crete over

696
00:41:14.199 --> 00:41:19.159
against salmone and hardly passing it, came unto a place

697
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:22.400
which is called the fair havens nigh, whereunto was the

698
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:26.760
city of Lesaia. Now, when much time was spent and

699
00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:29.480
when sailing was now dangerous, because the fast was now

700
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:33.559
already passed. Paul admonished them and said under them, Sirs,

701
00:41:33.639 --> 00:41:35.800
I perceived that this voyage will be with hurt and

702
00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:39.400
much damage, not only of the lading and ship, but

703
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:43.760
also of our lives. Nevertheless, the Centurion believed the master

704
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:47.000
and the owner of the ship more than those things

705
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:49.920
which were spoken by Paul, And because the haven was

706
00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:53.000
not commodious to winter in the more part, advised to depart.

707
00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:56.079
Thence also if by any means they might attain to

708
00:41:56.280 --> 00:41:59.800
FeNiS and there to winter, which is and haven of crete,

709
00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:03.599
and lieth toward the southwest and northwest. When the south

710
00:42:03.679 --> 00:42:09.360
wind blew softly, supposing that they obtained their purs purpose loosing,

711
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:13.639
thence they sailed close by Crete. But not long after

712
00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:19.440
there arose against it a tempestuous wind called Euroclydin. And

713
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:21.719
when the ship was caught and could not bear up

714
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:24.679
into the wind, we let her drive, and running under

715
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:27.360
a certain island, which is called Clauda, we had much

716
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:30.039
work to come by the boat, which, when they had

717
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:33.280
taken up, they used helps undergirding the ship, and, fearing

718
00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:36.760
lest they should fall into the quicksands, strake sail and

719
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:41.159
so were driven, and we being exceedingly tossed with a tempest.

720
00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:43.960
The next day they lightened the ship, and the third

721
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:46.360
day we cast out with our hands the tackling of

722
00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:50.119
the ship. When neither sun nor stars, and many days appeared,

723
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:53.599
and no small tempests lay on us, all hope that

724
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:56.599
we should be saved was then taken away. But after

725
00:42:56.719 --> 00:43:00.599
long abstinence, Paul stood fourth in the midst of them,

726
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:05.320
and said, sirs, you should have harkened unto me and

727
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:08.360
not have loosed from crete, and to have gained this

728
00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:10.440
harm and loss. And now I exhort you to be

729
00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:13.119
of good cheer, for there shall be no loss of

730
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:16.519
any man's life among you, but of the ship. For

731
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:19.039
there stood by me this night the Angel of God,

732
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:23.760
whose I am and whom I serve, saying, fear not, Paul,

733
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:27.159
thou must be brought before Caesar. And lo, God hath

734
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:31.199
given Thee all them that sail with THEE. Wherefore, sirs,

735
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:35.199
be of good cheer, for I believe God that it

736
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:38.119
shall be even as it was told me. And I

737
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:41.360
do remember now to not keep reading, to go down

738
00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:43.360
to verse forty two at the end of the chapter.

739
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:49.119
There and the soldier's council, I should say, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera,

740
00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:52.320
and fill in the blank if you're familiar with with

741
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:57.519
the scriptures of how this went. At this point, they're shipwrecked, essentially,

742
00:43:57.559 --> 00:43:59.840
and the soldier's council was to kill the prisoners, let

743
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:03.239
any of them should swim out and escape. But the centurion,

744
00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:06.039
willing to save Paul, kept them from their purpose and

745
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:10.760
commanded that they which could swim should cast themselves first

746
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:12.679
into the sea and get to land, and the rest

747
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:16.239
some on boards and some on broken pieces of the ship.

748
00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:19.199
And so it came to pass that they escaped, all

749
00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:26.000
safe to land. And not to sound like a Calvinist.

750
00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:28.280
And as I was writing this on my note notes,

751
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:31.280
I realized it does kind of sound that way. God's

752
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:35.639
sovereignty and grace. He is sovereign and he is gracious,

753
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:43.000
and those two characteristics of our Lord, our God I

754
00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:46.440
see in this passage can overcome less than one hundred

755
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:51.719
percent perfect charting and navigating. And I say that by

756
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:54.639
considering the whole purpose of God and all of this,

757
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:57.719
he was getting a man to a certain place. The

758
00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:02.280
apostle Paul to who had peel to Caesar and if

759
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:05.360
you think, all right.

760
00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:08.000
So this is principles of biblical charting. He's using the

761
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:11.719
concept of charting and a kind of an allegorical illustrative

762
00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:15.079
way where I guess we're supposed to learn principles to chart.

763
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:17.599
But if the whole point of the story is God

764
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:24.360
overcomes man's charting to accomplish his purpose, then is it

765
00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:30.639
about our charting or is it about God's chart I'm

766
00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:34.119
I'm trying to follow now. I'm a little I'm a

767
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:39.440
little perplexed because again I saw biblical charting and oh man,

768
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:45.119
I okay. All we can do is just we can

769
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:48.239
just we can just ride this storm out and see

770
00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:50.519
where going does this end? I think this is ending

771
00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:53.599
in a shipwreck. The ship is coming. It's fitting that

772
00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:56.800
this is Acts twenty seven where there's a shipwreck, because

773
00:45:56.840 --> 00:46:00.840
this entire episode has turned into a shipwreck. All right,

774
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:04.400
let's see if we can, if we can survive it.

775
00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:09.360
Back to when he got saved on the road to

776
00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:13.679
Damascus and an angel of the Lord spoke to a

777
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:17.519
man named Anonius and said, Hey, Saul's gonna come to you.

778
00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:21.920
What was his response, Ah, not that guy, he's crazy.

779
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:25.599
He kills Christians but the Lord said, unto him, Anonius,

780
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:28.079
go thy way. This is back in chapter nine, for

781
00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:32.119
he speaking of Saul, this one with this crazy reputation.

782
00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:35.199
He is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my

783
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:41.360
name before the gentiles and kings and the children of Israel.

784
00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:43.920
For I will show him how great things he must

785
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:46.880
suffer for my namesake. So I guess you could say

786
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:49.519
we see some of the suffering here in his journeys.

787
00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:53.679
They're chronicled in his writings to the Corinthians. But even

788
00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:56.840
this shipwreck here in twenty seven must would be some

789
00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:59.920
of the things he would suffer for the Lord's names.

790
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:02.440
But it was as he was going not just to

791
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:07.840
see a king, but Caesar himself. And again so he

792
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:10.960
was told in the middle of all that that this

793
00:47:11.199 --> 00:47:16.639
vision from God, Paul, thou must must be brought before Caesar.

794
00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:20.719
And Lo, God hath given the all them that sail

795
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:24.519
with thee. So yes, it is an interesting chapter. That

796
00:47:24.679 --> 00:47:26.840
they didn't do everything right with their charts, and they

797
00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:30.159
didn't do everything right when they were navigating or their choices.

798
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:33.760
But God graciously and sovereignly had a purpose in all

799
00:47:33.800 --> 00:47:36.519
of that, and he got them where it certainly got

800
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.679
Paul where he needed to be, And yet wouldn't it

801
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:44.039
be better to simply look at biblical charting and navigation

802
00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:48.400
principles and follow them and you would all say, well, yeah,

803
00:47:48.679 --> 00:47:50.880
that would be better than going through what they went through.

804
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:55.079
So that's what we're looking at in the message tonight.

805
00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:59.880
And there are certainly many pitfalls of improper charting and navigation.

806
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:03.320
I mean, this whole chapter is one big pitfall after

807
00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:07.320
pitfall of doing things wrong. But again, as I thought

808
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:11.159
about this theme of charting our future going forward, I

809
00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:15.679
thought of a whole lot of improper charting and navigation

810
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:19.400
from my time in the Navy as the navigator myself

811
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:21.760
or maybe as a mission commander with someone else at

812
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:26.280
the navigation table doing things maybe right, maybe doing things

813
00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:29.840
not right that I had to catch as the mission commander.

814
00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:34.039
A one time of failure to brief the flight and

815
00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:36.599
fly the brief. I don't know if you've ever heard that.

816
00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:40.719
More broadly speaking, train like a fight, fight like you

817
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:44.920
train in naval aviation or aviation in general. There's a

818
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:48.320
pretty solid principle we're going to brief this flight and

819
00:48:48.360 --> 00:48:50.480
then we're going to go fly what we briefed, and

820
00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:53.039
if you go and fly something different than what you briefed,

821
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:56.199
what you charted out, Basically you charted something and then

822
00:48:56.719 --> 00:49:03.119
went and navigated and flew something different happened. Problems happened.

823
00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:05.800
We had a mission, we were out in the Persian.

824
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:11.519
Okay, I am having a hard time how this is

825
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:17.000
gonna fit AX twenty seven. I really I'm having a

826
00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:22.840
hard time here all right, because what we have basically

827
00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:30.199
how this works is Paul receives direct revelation from God.

828
00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:36.960
These other men do not. They can either go with

829
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:45.000
their experience, their knowledge of navigation charting, or they can

830
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:50.360
listen to someone who gets direct revelation from God. So

831
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:53.039
I don't know if this is about charting. It's about

832
00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:56.679
one person gets direct revelation from God and others don't. Well,

833
00:49:56.760 --> 00:49:59.320
none of this is applicable to us today because none

834
00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:02.199
of us is getting direct revelation from God. God has

835
00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:04.440
given us a revelation and his word. So if you

836
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:06.760
want to talk about charting, then the key would be

837
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:11.119
to do proper biblical charting, would be to do proper

838
00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:19.840
Bible study and proper hermeneutics right, and then when it

839
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:22.360
comes to then, well, then the Bible. We have to

840
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:24.400
learn how to study the Bible and chart it out,

841
00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:26.480
and then we have to follow it. Well. Then this

842
00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:28.920
seems to give the idea that as long as we've

843
00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:31.760
got the right chart of what the Bible says, that

844
00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:34.199
we can follow it. But we know we can't follow

845
00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:37.119
it even if we can correctly understand it, because we

846
00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:39.559
are sinners with a sinful nature. Therefore, I can read

847
00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:41.239
a verse that says be holy as God is holy,

848
00:50:41.639 --> 00:50:44.480
I can clearly chart that out, be perfect, I can't

849
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:47.440
do it. So then this whole concept just seems to

850
00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:53.719
fall apart logically, philologically, contextually. Who charted this out?

851
00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:54.840
I don't know.

852
00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:57.079
So now he's going to tell stories. It sounds like

853
00:50:57.119 --> 00:50:58.239
when they were in the Persian Gulf.

854
00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:03.519
Here we go golf area, sorry, State Department Arabian golf.

855
00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:07.119
On most maps and charts that says Persian Persian golf

856
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:09.239
depends on which side of the golf you're looking at

857
00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:12.079
and who you're politically aligned with. But out in that

858
00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:15.320
part of the world, there's a narrow body of water

859
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:18.639
that connects the Red Sea down to the Gulf of

860
00:51:18.679 --> 00:51:20.519
Aden and out to the Indian Ocean. It's called the

861
00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:24.960
Strait of Babel Mandeb, and when we were doing our

862
00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:27.920
chart work, we would never remember that. We would just

863
00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:29.880
call it the Strait of Barbara Mandrel because it just

864
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:33.320
looked similar. But it's the Strait of Babel Mandeb. It

865
00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:36.800
actually means the Gate of Lamentation or the Gate of sorrows.

866
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:41.440
I believe the Strait of Babel Mandeb. And the problem

867
00:51:41.480 --> 00:51:44.280
with the Strait of Babel Mandeb is that at its

868
00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:47.280
narrowest point it's less than twenty four naric miles across.

869
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:50.320
You say, who cares, it's a strait, it's narrow. Well,

870
00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:53.360
my job as a navigator was to always keep us

871
00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:56.280
twelve nautical miles away from any target nation we were

872
00:51:56.320 --> 00:52:01.159
flying against out in international airspace, even though some countries

873
00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:05.320
claim much further out than that. International law is twelve

874
00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:08.079
nical miles. And so my job as a navigator or

875
00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:12.159
mission commander over the navigator was to tell him keep

876
00:52:12.239 --> 00:52:15.159
us twelve narical miles from anyone and everyone. Well, that's

877
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:17.760
pretty hard if you're going through a straight and you

878
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:22.440
have Yemen on this side and Djibouti and Eritrea on

879
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:25.559
this other side, on the Horn of Africa, and you're

880
00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:28.280
trying to keep twelve miles from all of them, and

881
00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:31.679
you can't because there's not twelve on either side. So

882
00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:34.239
what did we do In our charting and our briefing.

883
00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:37.320
We said, we're gonna fly right down the middle. We'll

884
00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:40.400
just get as far away as we can from both sides,

885
00:52:41.039 --> 00:52:46.159
and we plotted some points through the strait of Babel Mandeb. So,

886
00:52:46.679 --> 00:52:51.000
in this particular mission, I was the mission commander and

887
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:53.480
the navigator was sitting there and we had briefed that,

888
00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:56.239
and I was sitting up in a spare seat next

889
00:52:56.320 --> 00:52:59.320
to him, and I'm listening on the headset, and the

890
00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:02.000
you manic controllers did not like the fact that this

891
00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:05.800
American spyplane was off of their coast. And so as

892
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:08.800
we were flying up the straight with them on our

893
00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:12.400
right side, the controllers are yeah yeah, yea, yeah, yeah

894
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:15.679
yeah to our pilots, and they said you shouldn't be there,

895
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:18.159
and they're giving them all sorts of direction, and I'm saying,

896
00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:21.480
we briefed the flight, fly the brief, stay right in

897
00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:23.800
the middle of the straight of Able Mendez, and all

898
00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:26.920
of a sudden one of the pilots got unnerved and

899
00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:32.320
took a heading order from a suggestion scream from the

900
00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:36.199
controller in Yemen, and he starts deviating from what we

901
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:40.440
had briefed in the flight and I calmly said, that's interesting. No,

902
00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:42.719
I didn't calmly do anything. I jumped out of my

903
00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:45.320
seat and I stuck my head in the flight station

904
00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:49.880
and I told him fly center line, fly the fly

905
00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:53.960
what we briefed. The can cause proper.

906
00:53:55.559 --> 00:53:59.519
Oh, man, I don't know what to say. I can't.

907
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:07.360
I can't critique this. I can't there's nothing to do.

908
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:11.639
Somehow He's gonna pull this story to acts twenty seven.

909
00:54:11.679 --> 00:54:14.480
But the story in Act twenty seven is Paul received

910
00:54:14.519 --> 00:54:17.239
direct revelation for God saying, hey, don't go here. They're like, no,

911
00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:18.960
this is the way we're gonna go. When we're gonna go,

912
00:54:19.239 --> 00:54:21.559
and well, it all goes it all goes bad. But

913
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:23.480
then we find out that in a sense, God has

914
00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:25.400
used all of this to get Paul exactly where he

915
00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:28.360
wants him to get. So is it man, does Man's

916
00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:31.559
charting even come into play anywhere in this story? Or

917
00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:32.880
is it all God's charting?

918
00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:40.440
Problems If you don't if you fail to fly the brief,

919
00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:46.840
you can also have problems if you do proper chart work,

920
00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:49.880
and then when you get in the plane and go

921
00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:56.840
to fly what you had charted you Those charts are big.

922
00:54:58.239 --> 00:55:00.039
I mean, if you had it all the way and

923
00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:02.719
you couldn't see anything, you couldn't see your boloney sandwich

924
00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:04.400
over here when you got bored on your flight. So

925
00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:09.880
navigators would like fold up their charts in a certain

926
00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:12.920
way so you can have the part that you're flying

927
00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:15.440
right in front of you. Well, the problem is there

928
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:17.960
might be a danger just on the other side of

929
00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:21.239
the fold. This not me as a navigator. This was

930
00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:24.719
not even my squadron. It was one of the patrol

931
00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:28.840
squadrons that was flying in the same area that the

932
00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:33.519
Persian golf or Arabian golf, however you choose. And there's

933
00:55:33.599 --> 00:55:37.199
an island kind of right in the middle, awkwardly in

934
00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:39.559
the middle of the Persian golf. It's called Farsi Island.

935
00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:43.440
Who do you think owns Farsi Island? The people that

936
00:55:43.519 --> 00:55:47.239
speak Farsi, that speak Persian, the Iranians. It's Iranian controlled,

937
00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:49.480
but it's awkwardly right smack dab in the middle of

938
00:55:49.519 --> 00:55:51.920
the golf. And so what do you do as a navigator.

939
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:54.239
It's one of the things you're told by ironstructent. Make

940
00:55:54.360 --> 00:55:57.800
sure you have like glowing blinking lights on your chart

941
00:55:57.880 --> 00:56:01.440
around Farsi Island. Do not overfly Farsi Island. Do not

942
00:56:01.559 --> 00:56:08.920
overfly Iranian territory. Well, this particular navigator had Farsie Island

943
00:56:09.159 --> 00:56:11.280
just on the other side of his fold, and sure

944
00:56:11.360 --> 00:56:15.960
enough their P three was flying along, flying along, flying along,

945
00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:19.559
and then he flips up the bottom of his chart

946
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:23.719
and he went and the rest of their flight was

947
00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:25.559
trying to figure out how they were going to keep

948
00:56:25.639 --> 00:56:28.159
that from US authorities, their chain of command, that they

949
00:56:28.199 --> 00:56:34.119
had overflown Iranian territory. Bottom line, they weren't able to

950
00:56:34.159 --> 00:56:36.199
hide it. And yes, they got in a bunch of

951
00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:40.480
trouble because they had charted properly, but they navigated poorly.

952
00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:48.199
Okay, we're at fifty six minutes, all right, so this

953
00:56:48.639 --> 00:56:53.400
is turning into a shipwreck, no pun intended. So let's

954
00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:58.400
do let's do a thematic chark. So there's Acts twenty seven.

955
00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:00.880
He read most of it. I'm gonna just try to

956
00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:03.760
throw out a what I would call a thematic chart

957
00:57:04.119 --> 00:57:07.880
for Acts twenty seven, right, just from listening and reading

958
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:09.480
and trying to look at the text, going how am

959
00:57:09.519 --> 00:57:11.920
I going to save this message? Now? I'm not going

960
00:57:11.960 --> 00:57:13.280
to do this, Like, if you want to make this

961
00:57:13.440 --> 00:57:16.199
into a chart, you could. We could do something like this,

962
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:20.199
a thematic chart. What's a major theme in this even

963
00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:24.960
he acknowledges in that message just briefly, the major theme

964
00:57:25.599 --> 00:57:29.400
God's sovereignty. We have this in Acts twenty seven one

965
00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:33.559
through two. Right, So we have acts twenty seven one

966
00:57:33.639 --> 00:57:37.880
through two, and then twenty two through twenty five, all right,

967
00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:42.119
twenty two through twenty five. Paul is placed under Roman

968
00:57:42.239 --> 00:57:46.000
custody and embarks on the journey with God's plan for

969
00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:51.320
him to testify in Rome intact. God's plan is for

970
00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:54.679
Paul to testify in Rome. No matter what anybody else does,

971
00:57:54.920 --> 00:57:57.679
no matter what other chart they make, this is going

972
00:57:57.760 --> 00:58:04.559
to happen. God's plan prevails despite obstacles. That's the key insight.

973
00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:07.239
So we could break this down. The theme is God's sovereignty.

974
00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:09.920
The verses are Acts twenty seven one through two, twenty

975
00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:13.159
two through twenty five. The details Paul is placed under

976
00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:16.079
Roman custody and embarks on the journey with God's plan

977
00:58:16.199 --> 00:58:18.280
for him to testify in Roman tact and the key

978
00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:24.519
insight God's plan prevails despite obstacles. That's that's what we

979
00:58:24.679 --> 00:58:28.239
get here. We could go with human decisions could be

980
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:32.079
a second theme, right, Acts twenty seven nine through twelve.

981
00:58:32.599 --> 00:58:38.039
The sailors and Centurion ignore Paul's warning about continuing the journey.

982
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:42.719
He read this section right, Well, human wisdom often conflicts

983
00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:47.559
or is in conflict with divine guidance. Human wisdom finds

984
00:58:47.599 --> 00:58:50.920
itself at times in conflict with divine guidance or or

985
00:58:51.079 --> 00:58:55.360
God's word. Right, we could talk about that, right. How

986
00:58:55.360 --> 00:58:59.320
about how about a third? We could go Storms and Trials,

987
00:58:59.639 --> 00:59:03.679
Acts twenty seven thirteen through twenty A violent storm threatens

988
00:59:03.719 --> 00:59:06.079
the ship and the lives of all on board. That's

989
00:59:06.159 --> 00:59:08.079
right there in the text. He read it, all, right,

990
00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:13.079
So we could go with maybe something like life storms,

991
00:59:13.159 --> 00:59:15.519
test faith, and perseverance. Now, I'm not a big fan

992
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:17.360
of going that direction. But if he really wanted to

993
00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:20.800
turn this into an allegory that the storm represents live storms,

994
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:24.239
I don't know about that. I just know that in

995
00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:29.960
life there can be real storms, real obstacles, real difficulty,

996
00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:37.320
real tragedy. Right, but guess what God's plan is not impacted?

997
00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:41.719
Maybe we could go something along those lines. Could we

998
00:59:41.800 --> 00:59:45.239
go with possibly God's assurance. Acts twenty seven, twenty one

999
00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:50.079
through twenty six, Paul reassures everyone with God's promise of

1000
00:59:50.199 --> 00:59:54.199
survival through an angelic message. Faith in God's promises brings

1001
00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:56.840
hope amid despair. Well, in this particular case, I don't

1002
00:59:56.840 --> 00:59:58.719
know if I can apply it to me. Because God

1003
00:59:58.800 --> 01:00:02.320
gave them pacific promise about survival, he does not give

1004
01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:05.960
me that I'm going to even survive tonight. So but

1005
01:00:06.119 --> 01:00:08.199
I know that I'm gonna have eternity in heaven, So

1006
01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:12.320
I don't know how About leadership and influence. Acts twenty seven,

1007
01:00:12.400 --> 01:00:15.760
twenty seven through thirty two, Paul takes leadership, ensuring the

1008
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:20.320
sailors stay on board to secure everyone's safety. Godly wisdom

1009
01:00:20.400 --> 01:00:24.519
often earns trust in crisis. Maybe maybe the people don't

1010
01:00:24.559 --> 01:00:26.840
know what else to do, and this person claims to

1011
01:00:26.880 --> 01:00:28.519
be hearing directly from God. So I.

1012
01:00:30.639 --> 01:00:31.000
Don't know.

1013
01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:36.480
Yeah, there's more I could There's more. I could go here,

1014
01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:38.440
but I mean there, we could start breaking down the

1015
01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:41.320
key themes. So we could go through Acts twenty seven

1016
01:00:41.599 --> 01:00:44.719
and find key themes. If we want to chart this

1017
01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:46.920
out now, I can do that without making a chart.

1018
01:00:47.239 --> 01:00:48.880
I can do that with just like I'm gonna do

1019
01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:51.760
a thematic study of Acts twenty seven and find the

1020
01:00:51.840 --> 01:00:55.679
key themes and then outline them. Now that's just going through. Look,

1021
01:00:55.760 --> 01:00:58.280
none of that is perfect, none of that is great.

1022
01:00:58.599 --> 01:01:01.320
But I gotta give you something here. Because we've gone

1023
01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:04.840
almost an hour, he's he's probably almost half done with

1024
01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:08.880
this sermon. We haven't gotten one thing. We haven't gotten anything.

1025
01:01:09.159 --> 01:01:12.079
I mean nothing, not a thing. At this point, I'm

1026
01:01:12.119 --> 01:01:14.679
gonna let this go a little bit further just to

1027
01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:16.320
see if he gives me something.

1028
01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:21.920
One other example, come over to my house sometime for

1029
01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:24.800
hours of coffee. You know, there are many more stories

1030
01:01:26.599 --> 01:01:30.519
from where these came from. You can chart properly, have again,

1031
01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:34.760
have a right plan and go to enter the coordinates

1032
01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:38.880
in your navigation systems. And we call it fat fingering

1033
01:01:39.559 --> 01:01:43.599
doo doo doo doop ah. And there are all sorts

1034
01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:49.719
of procedural things in place to check that, and those

1035
01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:53.559
fell aparts. And that's way down another rabbit trail. But

1036
01:01:53.719 --> 01:01:56.320
bottom line. Had some friends flying an EP three across

1037
01:01:56.440 --> 01:01:59.599
the Korean peninsula, and the navigator put the wrong coordinates

1038
01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:03.519
for one of the waypoints in the inertial or GPS

1039
01:02:03.639 --> 01:02:06.639
whatever They were flying off of and so they were

1040
01:02:06.679 --> 01:02:08.800
supposed to go back and forth, back and forth. It's

1041
01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:12.559
just like ping pong, hours and hours of boring flying.

1042
01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:15.320
You fly east and you turn around and fly west,

1043
01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:18.679
back and forth as you're looking north into the Democratic

1044
01:02:18.719 --> 01:02:23.679
people were Democratic People's Republic of North Korea. Well, if

1045
01:02:23.719 --> 01:02:25.719
you put a wrong waypoint in there instead of going

1046
01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:28.920
due east, you might find yourself as these friends of

1047
01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:33.000
mine flying pretty much north, they were kind of going

1048
01:02:33.079 --> 01:02:37.599
north northeast towards North Korea. They had charted it properly,

1049
01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:41.480
they had, you know, the right coordinates and everything planned out,

1050
01:02:41.679 --> 01:02:45.199
and then they just punched it in wrong. And as

1051
01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:48.840
my friend tells me the story, he was the senior

1052
01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:52.079
electronic corp for evaluator on that flight, the mission commander.

1053
01:02:53.039 --> 01:02:55.320
He said, he's on the headset listening to these radio

1054
01:02:55.480 --> 01:02:59.079
calls from the Air Force and I hate Andrew might

1055
01:02:59.119 --> 01:03:00.920
listen to this. I hate give the Air Force credit

1056
01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:04.239
for saving the day. But the Air Force is seeing

1057
01:03:04.360 --> 01:03:07.440
this little blip that they're controlling going closer and closer

1058
01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:11.119
to North Korea, and they start calling out code words,

1059
01:03:11.480 --> 01:03:15.320
saying hey, idiot in a professional way and using code

1060
01:03:15.360 --> 01:03:17.480
words that we have when you're going someplace you're not

1061
01:03:17.519 --> 01:03:21.360
supposed to go. And he's telling me. I was thinking,

1062
01:03:21.480 --> 01:03:25.800
who's the idiot? Number one that's that's about to fly

1063
01:03:25.920 --> 01:03:29.400
into North Korea and number two is not heating the

1064
01:03:29.519 --> 01:03:33.199
warning calls from the air force controllers that are that

1065
01:03:33.280 --> 01:03:36.039
are trying to protect them from hurting themselves.

1066
01:03:36.519 --> 01:03:37.480
Who's the it?

1067
01:03:39.239 --> 01:03:41.360
And his eyes got like this big as he looked

1068
01:03:41.400 --> 01:03:45.559
on his screen the situation of wehearing screens showing where

1069
01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:49.480
they were tracking, and he ran up to the navigator position,

1070
01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:53.360
hit the navigator in the back of the head, said, navigator,

1071
01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:59.800
plot our present position. Now you like freezes, inertials or

1072
01:03:59.840 --> 01:04:03.840
gs or whatever, and goes as My friend then ran

1073
01:04:03.880 --> 01:04:05.079
into the flight station and.

1074
01:04:05.199 --> 01:04:10.199
Said, how does any of this work feel logically.

1075
01:04:11.400 --> 01:04:11.760
To me?

1076
01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:16.320
Theologically, here's what I learn that, even in actual navigation,

1077
01:04:16.719 --> 01:04:20.480
human beings make mistakes will Philologically, if I'm supposed to

1078
01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:24.000
be trying to chart my life using the Bible, it's

1079
01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:26.440
going to be filled with mistakes because the one doing

1080
01:04:26.519 --> 01:04:29.400
the charting, I'm a sinner. I have a sinful nature.

1081
01:04:29.639 --> 01:04:33.199
My charting is corrupted because it flows out of a

1082
01:04:33.400 --> 01:04:36.159
sinful nature. And even if I get the chart right,

1083
01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:40.400
I still can't, and I'm incapable of performing what the

1084
01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:43.039
chart tells me to do. The chart tells me be

1085
01:04:43.400 --> 01:04:45.840
perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect, be holy. So

1086
01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:48.079
I even if I get be holy as God is holy,

1087
01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:50.000
I can't even get that. Even if I get the

1088
01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:54.320
chart right, I can't follow the chart perfectly? So how

1089
01:04:54.360 --> 01:04:56.039
does this even work philologically?

1090
01:04:56.119 --> 01:04:56.719
I don't even know.

1091
01:04:57.039 --> 01:04:59.079
This would have made far more sense if he just said,

1092
01:04:59.159 --> 01:05:01.440
we're going to talk about principles of biblical charting, and

1093
01:05:01.519 --> 01:05:04.599
we're gonna use Acts twenty seven to create a biblical chart,

1094
01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:06.480
which is what I thought he was going to do.

1095
01:05:06.800 --> 01:05:08.960
But I don't even know where this is going. This

1096
01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:11.440
is just turning into story after story after story.

1097
01:05:12.039 --> 01:05:18.320
Not I know.

1098
01:05:19.079 --> 01:05:22.360
I know that we've talked about recently why churches don't

1099
01:05:22.480 --> 01:05:25.360
like podcasters, Right, they don't like it. Right, you need

1100
01:05:25.440 --> 01:05:27.559
to go to church to hear the word of God preached.

1101
01:05:29.559 --> 01:05:36.079
What I don't fly Turn one eight zero, No.

1102
01:05:37.440 --> 01:05:39.719
Before they flew into North Korea? What would it happen?

1103
01:05:40.599 --> 01:05:42.719
I don't know. We put twenty four people on one

1104
01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:46.960
of those airplanes, and the North Koreans, according to World History,

1105
01:05:47.119 --> 01:05:50.480
are still at war even to this day. And so

1106
01:05:50.639 --> 01:05:54.800
I'm glad that my friend finally said, don't I'm the idiot,

1107
01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:59.760
We're the idiots, We're a planeful of idiots, and corrected

1108
01:05:59.760 --> 01:06:03.519
their navigation. Now I could, I could just take those

1109
01:06:03.559 --> 01:06:07.119
in a bunch of other c stories and force them

1110
01:06:07.159 --> 01:06:10.679
to fit into the text. But I tried to be

1111
01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:14.440
as disciplined as I could and instead read through this

1112
01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:16.559
text over and over again and let some of the

1113
01:06:16.599 --> 01:06:20.800
biblical lessons learned on how to you know, figuratively chart

1114
01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:22.920
our way and of course this would apply to us

1115
01:06:22.960 --> 01:06:26.119
on vision Sunday, how to chart our course ahead and

1116
01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:30.360
then and then scripturally biblically navigate that. So I looked

1117
01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:33.159
for those lessons learned, and then you'll be glad to

1118
01:06:33.239 --> 01:06:36.400
know when I found those those lessons learned, those principles,

1119
01:06:37.119 --> 01:06:41.000
I did have some illustrations in the back of my

1120
01:06:41.119 --> 01:06:43.760
head to apply to make it more visual to you.

1121
01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:47.840
So number one, so this is just me reading through

1122
01:06:47.920 --> 01:06:50.239
this text because it's a place where they were navigating

1123
01:06:50.360 --> 01:06:53.559
poorly or just navigating in general, and the Bible saying, okay,

1124
01:06:53.639 --> 01:06:57.440
we're charting our course for the future far far out.

1125
01:06:58.079 --> 01:07:00.400
How can what can we learn from this text to

1126
01:07:00.440 --> 01:07:03.719
make sure we do that correctly, won't first thing I

1127
01:07:03.880 --> 01:07:07.840
noticed here in the opening couple verses, and it really

1128
01:07:07.920 --> 01:07:10.800
struck out to me as again as a navigator, probably

1129
01:07:10.840 --> 01:07:13.599
would for brother birmister who was a navigator under the ocean,

1130
01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:21.599
maybe some others with that experience the departure and destination determination.

1131
01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:24.239
As a navigator, I can tell you what. I was

1132
01:07:24.360 --> 01:07:28.159
never told to chart a course from an unknown departure

1133
01:07:28.920 --> 01:07:30.800
to an undetermined destination.

1134
01:07:31.800 --> 01:07:33.199
Now just go chart the course.

1135
01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:38.039
Well, like from where wherever? Just you know, pick an airfield,

1136
01:07:38.199 --> 01:07:42.000
just random, well where are we going, that doesn't matter,

1137
01:07:42.280 --> 01:07:47.559
just somewhere. Just take your chart and do something never

1138
01:07:47.679 --> 01:07:52.559
happened to me ever in my navy career. My chain

1139
01:07:52.599 --> 01:07:58.519
of command always higher authorities instructed me from where to

1140
01:07:58.599 --> 01:08:01.360
take off and where we were going to am. I'm

1141
01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:04.639
guessing it's the same in a submarine. They didn't say, hey, navigator, burmister,

1142
01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:12.639
just chart your course and just go somewhere maybe even

1143
01:08:12.719 --> 01:08:17.880
working well, both pretty strategic assets, maybe submarine and a

1144
01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:21.960
naval reconnaissance aircraft. So we were always told where we

1145
01:08:22.159 --> 01:08:24.239
were to chart from. And we see that, you know,

1146
01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:25.640
right at the beginning of the text and when it

1147
01:08:25.720 --> 01:08:30.399
was determined, determined by who. It was determined by someone

1148
01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:33.680
in a position of authority. His name was Agrippa. And

1149
01:08:33.760 --> 01:08:36.479
when it was determined by Agrippa that we should sail

1150
01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:40.760
in this Italy, why was he choosing that as a place. Well,

1151
01:08:40.800 --> 01:08:43.920
because Paul had appealed to Caesar, and you appealed to

1152
01:08:43.960 --> 01:08:47.359
Caesar under Caesar, shall you go? And he even said

1153
01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:49.560
I wish he hadn't because we could have just led

1154
01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:52.239
him off because he's an innocent man. But he demanded

1155
01:08:52.279 --> 01:08:55.319
to see Caesar. So when it was determined by those

1156
01:08:55.359 --> 01:08:58.760
in positions of authority that we should sail in Italy,

1157
01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:02.680
they delivered Paul and yeah, yeah, on from there. So

1158
01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:05.319
the application would be this. In charting a course for

1159
01:09:05.399 --> 01:09:10.520
Bible Baptist Church, God tells us, as the ultimate higher authority,

1160
01:09:11.159 --> 01:09:15.840
from where and when to start, not necessarily a geographic location,

1161
01:09:15.960 --> 01:09:18.039
but a point in time. Well, I guess the geographic

1162
01:09:18.119 --> 01:09:21.880
location would be Okarber would be on in Washington. But

1163
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really from where to start, which would be the point

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in time? It's his perfect timing and God's Holy Spirit

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and the Holy scriptures tell us where we're going, both

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generically under all the world and every creature and specifically

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as the case here in the Book of Acts a

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little further back, chapter sixteen, come over into Macedonian help us,

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So all the world, every creature will where specifically for

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us or our evangelistic team Macedonian call man.

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I don't even know where to go with any of this.

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He's just taking the text and just using it. How

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about chart a course and how to interpret the text?

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Right?

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And then the key is who's determining this? Is it?

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Is it Augustus is determining? Or is or a grip

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I should say? Is it Agrippa or is it God?

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I mean, like I think this is all demonstrates God's sovereignty, Right?

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Is it God the one directing this?

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I don't know.

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We're gonna have to stop. We're at seventy minutes. I

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don't even know what to say, ladies and gentlemen. That Wow,

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that's hilarious. I see biblical chart, biblical biblical If we

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want to have a conversation, that's what we really need

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to solve, because none of this other stuff really Okay,

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now I'm joking. Biblical charting. I see that, and I

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go Bible study method. Okay, what kind of chart, chronological, thematic, literary,

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like you know, prophetic, all the different, and I'm thinking, Okay,

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he's gonna get principles. I wonder what principles and guess

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what I found had nothing to do with that at all.

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Thank you for listening into this complete total shipwreck. I

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don't know what else to say. God bless