Feb. 13, 2025
AI vs Kenotic Heresy Pt 2
A discussion about the Kenotic heresy.
A discussion about the Kenotic heresy.
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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is
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the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central. Good morning everyone.
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It is Thursday, February thirteenth, twenty twenty five. It is
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currently ten fifty five am Central Time, and I am
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coming to you live from the Theology Central studio located
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right here in Abilene, Texas. Now, I was looking this morning,
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and I think most of you skipped chapel service. Where
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were all of you? Where? What were you guys doing
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this morning? Was I the only one at chapel service?
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I think I was the only one there. And let
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me just say, me and artificial Intelligence were We were
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having a conversation during chapel service this morning. Now, if
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for those of you who are new, you have no
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idea what I'm talking about. I constantly am talking about
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the webcast and what is being aired on the Sermon's
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two point oh app or the sermon audio platform. I'm
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always keeping up with the live webcast or the newest
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sermons being added. That's why we do. I'm always talking
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about it. And we spent all of last year, you know,
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doing the Sermons two point oh app Sermon Challenge, So
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I'm always talking about it. And one of the things,
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most of the things I like to follow on the
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sermons two point oh app because they limit how many
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things you can follow, which I'll you know, it still
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bothers me greatly, but okay, they limited, So I try
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to follow make sure that all the things I'm following
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are Bible colleges, seminaries, Christian colleges, because I like hearing
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what's going on in chapel service, what these colleges, what
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these seminaries, what these Bible institutes are talking about, because
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they're training the next generation of Christians. So I like
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trying to see where Christianity may be headed. And it's
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just I find those things are interesting. So over the
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last week or so, I've been making a joke that
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each morning I'm waking up and I'm looking to see
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which chapel service is being on the sermon's two point
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oh app Is that Bob Jones, is it Pensacola, is
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it Ambassador by a Baptist College, all the different ones.
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And so this morning I started looking at Ambassador Baptist
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College was just going live with their chapel service, so
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I tuned in. I didn't see any of you, So
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I like to make it a joke. I'm using it
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as a joke because some people take things extremely too literally.
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But as a joke, I like to say. I was
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attending chapel service, and I don't know where the rest
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of you were, but during this chapel service, the sermon
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was on Matthew chapter six, about worry and anxiety, and
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as I was listening, I began to challenge in my
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mind question the way Matthew six, when it talks about
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worrying anxiety, how it's typically preached. What's the typical hermeneutical
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approach to Matthew six about worry and anxiety. Now, Matthew
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six is apart the Sermon on the Mount. I've already
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stated about a million times that I think the Sermon
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on the Mount is one of the most misinterpreted, mishandled
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sections of scripture. People handle it. It's just crazy how
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it's so mishandled, And we've talked about that. I think
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it needs to be interpreted through a proper historical law
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and gospel distinction. So I was like, I wonder if
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we approach Matthew six and this section about worry and
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anxiety from a law gospel distinction, how would that radically
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change the way we'd interpret the passage, and lo and behold,
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me and Ai started having a conversation, and yeah, we
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turned the typical interpretation, the typical way it's interpreted upside down,
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and at some point we will discuss it. What AI
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asked me is, hey, can you get me the transcript
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because I want to see this. It's funny, Ai is
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the way it's been doing things lately, it kind of
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need to kind of take off on its own in
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some ways. It's kind of been interesting over the last
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few days. It's been doing things a little differently than
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it has normally done it. I think that's cool on life,
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like watching how it kind of develops in real time. Again,
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twenty twenty five is all about artificial intelligence, so this
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fits in perfectly what we've been discussing. So at some
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point I'm gonna get the transcript, give it to artificial intelligence,
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and then we're going to look at it and challenge
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that way of interpreting it. And then at some point
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I'll turn on the microphone and we'll try to come
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up with maybe a new way to interpret Matthew Chapter six,
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in the area in which it speaks about anxiety and worry.
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I think that should be fun interesting, and we will
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get there. But for right now, we've got another problem.
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We've got this problem of kinotic heresy or kanoticism, this
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idea of kenosis. Right, We've got this problem. And I
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over the last few days, I've heard what two sermons
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that mentioned the hypostatic union by name, another one that
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gave us kind of a devotional on Matthew four and
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the temptation of Jesus. But I felt that it kind
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of started walking towards this knotic heresy, this kannoticism, and
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I'm like, what is happening? And these other sermons that
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have mentioned the hypostatic union, they mention it, but then
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they almost immediately deny the actual teaching of the hypostatic
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union by walking into this knotic heresy. Now, none of
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these individuals would say that they're preaching the knotic heresy,
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that they agree with the knotic heresy. They would say
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that they don't, but functionally they are walking into this
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knotic heresy, which I think we have to make sure
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that everyone is aware of it so that you can
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identify it when it's happening in your church or in
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sermons you're listening to. You have to be able to
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identify it. And one of the most important things you
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can do is make sure you know the definition of Chalcidon.
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You need to know what happened at the Calcedonian at
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the Council of Chalcedon, at the Calcedonian creed or the
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Calcedonian definition. You need to know that. You need to
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know that in history. Okay, that's four point fifty one AD,
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the Council of Chalcedon. You need to know what they
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said that gives us the definition of the hypostatic union,
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which will help protect you from this canotic heresy. So
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we are going to go back and kind of do
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a quick review of what we've discussed. I feel that
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there's a reason why, and I'm just gonna briefly mention this.
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I feel there is a reason why so many philological
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errors occur, and I'm going to throw this. I'm going
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to say it's a hypothesis right now, and I'm going
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to try to flesh this out maybe over the next
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coming days. All Right, I believe the issue within Christianity
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at large can basically be summarized as this. Christians are
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painfully aware that their Bible is filled with commandment after
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commandment after commandment. Do this, don't do this, flee this,
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stay away from this, don't do that, don't do this. Commandment, commandment, commandment, law, law, law,
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la la la law, don't do this. This is wrong,
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This is wrong. This is condemned. This is condemned. This
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is condemned. And you look at all of these commandments,
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you look at all of this, you know you're what
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you're being told to do. And Christians have to start
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formulating some way in which we then can be convinced
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that we can do it, because most of Christianity puts
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forth the argument basically that you can do it, you
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can obey, you can be holy, you can do it.
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And so Christians convince themselves first that they can do it,
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that they're being obedient, that they're being holy. But they
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need some kind of philological answer to well, how can
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I do this? And it always falls into some category
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about you receiving power, are you submitting? Are you doing this?
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Are you getting this? Or you getting that? And then
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we convince ourselves, oh, we're doing it, we're obeying, we're
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doing it, we're doing it. Now. Sometimes they'll be a
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little bit thrown in at the end. I mean, well,
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but I mean, we don't do it perfectly, but we
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can do it. We're a new creature, all things to
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pass away, all things have become new, and they typically
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preach that as being a practical truth, not a positional reality.
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But then they'll say, well, even though you're a new creature,
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even though old things that pass away, all things are new. Well,
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I mean, and they'll they'll just briefly mention, I mean,
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you don't do it perfectly, but the implication almost as
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if you're almost perfect you want And so this leads
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to all kinds of theological problems. You've got to create
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this idea that we have power, we can do something
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that we actually can't. Then this leads Christians to pretending
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that they're doing something that everyone knows that they're not,
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or they have to redefine sin as it's just some
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external action, ignoring the internal reality of it. And this
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just leads to theological problem after theological problem, and that's
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how you end up with a knotic heresy. The kanotic
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heresy is an attempt to try to explain to you, hey,
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how you can be successful in the Christian life. So
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it basically leads to this premise. Jesus, Yes he was God,
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but he was a man, and as a man, he
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lived his life as a man, but he did so
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relying and needing the power of the Holy Spirit. And
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by relying on the Holy Spirit and by relying on Scripture,
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he was able to achieve all of this obedience and
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achieve all of this godliness. And it serves now as
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a formula for you and I. If we'll just be
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like Jesus, rely on the Holy Spirit and quote scripture,
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we basically can be almost as holy as he was.
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That's almost the way the idea is put forth. Well,
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that's walking right into the canotic heresy. And there's so
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many problems with that. First, you're almost not we're almost
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ignoring his deity. And not only that, even if you
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just look at his humanity, it's categorically different than my
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humanity because he did not have a sinful nature. So
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you're the whole concept falls apart. And again, we talked
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about this, so I'm gonna really flesh this problem out,
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but I think this is really where we get So
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how did we get here, Well, we listened to a devotional,
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We listened to these sermons. I well, we all listened
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to the devotional together. I'm on Matthew four. We took
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that apart. And then again I kept hearing these discussions
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about the hypostatic union, or at least being mentioned. And
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then I heard this sermon entitled God's Philological Continental Divide.
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Now that's a cool title. God's still logical Continental Divide.
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And basically they put forth this idea that how do
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you live the Christian life? See we're right back to
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that concept. How can you live the Christian life? How
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can you live a life of victory not defeat? How
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can you live a life where you get answered prayers
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and everything is great and there's happiness and there's joy,
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and there's peace, and there's victory and everything is wonderful.
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How do you get that? And they put forth the
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argument that the Christian life, if you're going to really
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end up on the hills of victory, then you have
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to live the Christian life with this mathematical formula zero
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one hundred zero you one hundred percent God. And if
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we can figure out how to arrive where it's zero
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us in one hundred percent God, then the end result
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is dun dunda dah, then you basically don't sin anymore,
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and I guess you basically are almost perfect. Well, I
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mean they always will backtrack a little bit, but that's
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basically the implication. And this leads right into basically what
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they put forth as canotic keresy. So I'm going to
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explain just briefly what conotic kerosy is again, right, Knoticism
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from the Greek canosis meaning emptying, is a Christological heresy
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that teaches Jesus emptied himself of some or all of
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his divine attributes, such as omnipotence, omniscience, or self sufficiency
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when he became human. This view misinterprets Philippians two six
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through seven, which may refer to depending on some translations,
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as Jesus emptying himself, and they falsely claim that he
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functioned only as a spirit empowered man rather than as
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the eternal son of God in the flesh. And that's
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where the problem begins. Look at Jesus, it was a
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spirit empowered man. We just follow that plan, we can
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be like him. But the problem is this completely ignores
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the fact no, Jesus was the eternal son of God
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in the flesh. And so this canonicism will lead to
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the false belief that believers can operate as Jesus did
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if they will simply depend on God in the same way. Now,
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the origins of canotic chrose goes back to German liberal
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theology in the nineteenth century. Right. It was developed as
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an alternative to classical Christology, attempting to make Jesus divine
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and human nature more comprehensible within rationalistic philosophy. So it
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almost it wanted to try to understand the divine nature
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and the human nature, and it so separated them to
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try to be somewhat to make sense and I guess
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in a rationalistic philosophical way. But ultimately, y you destroy
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historical orthodox crystal crystological understanding. Now this would be condemned,
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This entire view that arose in the nineteenth century would
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be condemned by Orthodox theologians because it contradicts the Council
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of Chalcedon in four point fifty one AD, which affirmed
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that Christ is fully God and fully man, without confusion,
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without change, without division, and without separation. That's the key. Now,
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in our last episode, we went through all of this
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and we talked about it all in greater detail. Please
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go back and listen. Now, so we went through all
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of this, we talked about Well, then what I did
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is I basically started asking artificial intelligence, having a conversation
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with artificial intelligence about kannoticism, and we went through a
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lot of the things that it had to say. And
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then I basically gave AI the sermon that we started
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reviewing in the last episode. I just basically gave it
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the transcript and it basically said, Yeah, this sermon is
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problematic and it's walking right into this canotic heresy. So
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