Feb. 13, 2025

AI vs Kenotic Heresy Pt 1

AI vs Kenotic Heresy Pt 1

A discussion about the christian life and the kenotic heresy

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A discussion about the christian life and the kenotic heresy

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is

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the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central. Good afternoon, everyone,

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or good evening, depending on where you may be. I

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guess it could be good what morning, afternoon, evening, night,

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wherever you may be. Welcome, that's the most important thing.

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Welcome everyone. It is Wednesday, February twelfth, twenty twenty five.

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It is currently five four pm Central time, and I'm

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coming to you live from the Theology Central studio located

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right here in Abilene, Texas. We have a lot to

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do and a lot to talk about. We are going

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to be probably talking about this over the next few days.

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I hope. I hope this goes well. I hope I

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can organize this in a way that will be somewhat beneficial. Yes,

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there will be maybe a little bit of repetition here,

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but I feel in this particular case, repetitive maybe absolutely

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necessary because of I can't draw any major conclusion, but

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what I've witnessed over the last few days is at

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least telling me this needs to be addressed. I can't

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say it's a widespread problem. I cannot say this problem

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is everywhere in every church. But there's something going on

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at least what I have encountered over the last few

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days that has me concerned. So we're going to address

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that and hopefully it's going to be beneficial. Now, if

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you're listening to us on the Sermon's two point zero

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app or maybe a sermon audio platform of any kind,

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you'll notice we kind of beat the rush, didn't we.

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I think we did because if you look, there's currently

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two webcasts right now. Two that's it. One of them

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is well me okay, the Theology Central Podcast. The other

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one is Central Fellowship Baptist Church in Georgia. That's the

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other one broadcasting right now. What I challenge you to

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do is just keep watching it because in the next

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forty five to fifty minutes that two is going to

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go to like five hundred six hundred, it's going to

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go there's going to be all. I'm assuming the numbers

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are going to be large, but that's what typically happens

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on a Wednesday evening. So keep track of that. And

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of course, when I'm done, if you want to keep

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listening to things, you'll have plenty to choose from. And

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it's from listening to things on the Sermons two point

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oh app that has brought us to this very moment.

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All right, it all started me, let me put this

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all together. It all started by listening to a devotional

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on Matthew chapter four and the temptation of Jesus. Right,

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and if you will remember, we did like three almost

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three hours of teaching based off that like ten minute devotional.

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It all started with basically breaking Matthew chapter four the

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Temptation of Jesus into two basic questions. The first question

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was why was Jesus tempted? We loved what the devotional said,

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we expounded on it, we expanded it. I thought it

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was good. I thought it was great. I thought that

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was I thought we did a good job there. The

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second question was, well, how did Jesus overcome the temptation?

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And in asking that question, they really emphasized first the

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humanity of Jesus. Basically, Jesus as a man overcame temptation

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by relying on the Holy Spirit and basically memorizing and

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quoting scripture. And immediately I was like, well that's a

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concern because the minute you say, well, Jesus overcame temptation

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as a man, well there's already problems because Jesus wasn't

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just a man, right, he was God incarnate, God in

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the flesh, true God, true man. That's the hypostatic union.

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Right.

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You can't just so o one from the other. They're

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both there. Jesus didn't stop being God. Right, So already

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there's a problem number two. Even if you just focus

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on his humanity, he's sinless, he had no sinful nature.

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So how can you somehow take that and apply it

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to us. There's all kinds of major problems. So that

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already raised a red flag. Well, then the other night,

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I'm listening to a sermon. In that sermon, they mentioned

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the hypostatic union, but I felt like they stumbled right

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back into kind of the same problem. The devotional kind

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of hinted at, and I'm like, what is happening here?

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So here's what I want you to write down. I

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want you to write down kanotic heresy, kanotic heresy. Right,

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I'll spell kanotic ke no tic and then of course

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you know word heresy, kinotic heresy, kanoticism, canosis. Those are

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all terms you may want to write down. But kanotic heresy, canosis, kannoticism.

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I want you to know this. I want you to

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know this term. I want you to become an expert

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on the kinotic heresy. That's what I want to accomplish.

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I want you to become an expert on kenosis, on kannoticism.

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I want you to know this. I want you to

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understand it. I want you to be able to identify it.

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I want you to be able to define it. I

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want you to be able to explain it. I want

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you to be able to hear it when you're listening

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to sermons.

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Right.

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I cannot stress this enough. You need to know this,

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because what has happened is we had a devotional I'm

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not saying it was promoting kanotic heresy or promoting kannoticism.

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I'm not saying that's it was full blown that, but

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it definitely was leading in that direction. And this second

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sermon that I heard that in the Hypostatic Union that

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once again walked right into kannoticism, right into canotic heresy,

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even though they would they would have probably denied that.

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They believe that that's where they end up. And and

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so many times a heresy, a fraudulent teaching. What happens

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is over time, it just it kind of everyone forgets

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to define it. Everyone kind of forgets it, and it

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just becomes adopted. It becomes almost like it merges into

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other forms of Christianity, and that other form of Christianity

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doesn't even realize. There's all kinds of Christians walking around

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who don't know who Pelagius is or what Pelagianism is.

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They have no clue. But you listen to them start talking.

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You're like, that is straight up Pelagianism. That is straight

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up the teaching of Pelagius. They would deny that, but

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that's what they've done. What you have to do is

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be so aware of heretical teaching and heretical ideas that

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you can identify it even when it's been incorporated into

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what would overall be considered. Oh that's a good church.

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That's they have a good doctrinal system, they have a

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good statement of faith. But listen, because many cases they've

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adopted an idea that they may not even be able

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to identify. Your job is to be able to identify it.

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So here's what we're going to do. We're going to

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merge two things. Twenty twenty five is the year of

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artificial Intelligence. We have an entire series about AI and

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the future of the church. We're gonna place all of

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these messages in that because in this we're going to

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be utilizing artificial intelligence almost exclusively to address and try

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to deal with this issue of knotic heresy, all right,

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And what we're going to do is we're going to

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see how AI can tell Well, you're gonna first you're

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gonna we're gonna go through a discussion I had with AI.

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But then you're going to see how AI can review

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a sermon and identify kanoticism and identify canotic heresy where

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I guess Christians can't. And this is going to be

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does or does artificial intelligence become our heresy detector? Does?

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Does artificial intelligence? Is it? Do you keep it on?

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You know? And when you go to church you just

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have AI listen to the sermon and then AI is

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like warning, warning, warning, warning, heresy, heresy, heresy. The person

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is preaching heresy, and it sounds the alarm, and everybody's

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looking over at your phone, going no, it's not my fault,

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pastor you must be preaching something wrong. AI is sending

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out an alarm. It sends out a text message to

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everyone within a you know, a five mile radius that

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heresy is being preached Okay, maybe I'm maybe I'm going

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a little like Hollywood, but well, I had AI, and

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AI was like, whoa, I don't know what you're listening to,

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but something is wrong here, okay, and AI started doing

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a weird thing today. I gave AI. I downloaded a

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sermon that the transcript of it, and I uploaded it

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to AI. AI ripped the sermon apart, and you know

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what AI did today. This is the first time I've

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ever seen it. It gave the sermon a rating out

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of like ten, one out of ten. It gave it

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a rating and like I think, it gave it like

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a four point five, and then it enlisted everything the

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sermon had wrong I've never seen. I didn't ask it

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to rate the sermon. I just said review it, and

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it literally gave it a rating. That's the first time

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I've ever seen it. I was laughing. I was like,

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oh man, I don't want to Maybe I'm gonna give

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it some of my sermons and see what it says.

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I was like, this is crap. I've never seen it

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do that. Okay, but that's that secondary. So we're gonna

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use AI and this discussion about canotic heresy. So you're

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ready give a definition of kinotic heresy or kannoticism. Now

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it comes from the Greek canosis, meaning emptying, emptying. All right,

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now this are you ready? This kinoticism canotic kerasy is

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a crystological heresy that teaches Jesus emptied himself of some

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or all of his divine attributes such as omnipotence, omniscience,

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or self sufficiency when he became human, or what I

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would prefer to say, when he took upon himself human flesh.

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Now this view misinterprets Philippians two six through seven. Now

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let me stop right there, all right, let me go

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through this again. Knoticism from the Greek word canosis, meaning empty,

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as a christological heresy. So it's a heresy about Christ.

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It teaches that Jesus emptied himself of some or all

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of his divine attributes, such as omnipotence, omniscience, or self

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sufficiency when he became human. The verse misinterprets Philippians two

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six through seven. So if you have a Bible Philippians two,

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Philippians two, Philippians two six through seven, All right, I'm

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gonna go to five for context. Philippians two five. Let

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this mind be in you, which was also in Christ. Jesus,

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who being in the form of God, thought it not

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robbery to be equal with God, but made himself of

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no reputation, took upon him the form of a servant,

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and was made in the likeness of man. So he

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made himself of no reputation. All right now. Now again,

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depending on where which translation you look at, some may

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have Philippians two six through seven saying something like this,

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Jesus emptied himself all right now, What many will do

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will take this idea and say that he that They

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will claim that Jesus now functioned only as a spirit

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empowered man, rather than as an eternal son of God

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in the flesh. Now, this is the key. What will

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happen is even people who don't embrace canotic heresy or knoticism,

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you listen to this. When someone begins to describe that

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Jesus operated or functioned as a spirit empowered man rather

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than as the eternal son of God in the flesh,

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I'm sorry. I don't care who they are. I don't

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care if they're independent, fundamental Baptist. I don't care if

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they're reformed. I don't care how great they're theot. I

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don't care if they're Presbyterian, Baptist, Bible Church, I don't

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care what they are. If they say something along those lines,

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at the very least, they have associated and they're walking

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right into kannoticism or kannotic heresy. So let me state

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it again, when you hear anyone say that. So they'll

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base it off Philippians two six through seven, Right, they

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base it off this idea that he made himself of

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no reputation, he took upon himself the form of a

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servant whenever they read that, and then they basically explain

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it as Jesus functioned while on earth as basically nothing

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more than a spirit empowered man rather than the eternal

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Son of God in the flesh. They have embraced to

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some level kannoticism. So in the devotional when it talked

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about Jesus overcoming temptation, remember how it emphasized. Now, they

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didn't expound it, so we can't say for sure, but

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the way they left it was very put it. This way,

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they had at least driven into the neighborhood of kannoticism.

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They at least pulled their car into the neighborhood because

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they emphasized Jesus as a man overcame temptation by relying

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on the spirit and quoting scripture. Oh wait a minute,

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Wait a minute, wait, you're you're basically viewing Jesus then,

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nothing more, as a man who was spirit empowered. And

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in other sermons that we've listened to, they've made similar

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basically concepts, and this is what derives from it. Okay,

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look at Jesus. He was a spirit empowered man who

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overcame temptation. Well, guess what you can be in a

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spirit empowered Christian who can overcome temptation. You just do

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what Jesus did. Well, there's a million problems with that.

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Jesus was not just a spirit empowered man. He was

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God in the flesh. He was God incarnate, and even

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as just a man, he was sinless. So it's a

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it's a categorical error. And it's at least you've driven

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your car into the canotic neighborhood, and I will say

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you've pulled your car over. I think you even getting

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out of the car. I think you've even sitting around

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talking to people. Now, what are the key errors of

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kannoticism or canosis heresy or a canotic heresy.

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Number one, it denies or diminishes Jesus full dey deity

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during his incarnation. I want you to hear this. Any

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attempt when someone denies or diminishes or almost ignores the

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full deity of Jesus Christ during his incarnation, you're walking

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into kannoticism. You're walking into it. Number two, they misinterpret

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Philippians two six through seven wrongly, assuming that kenosis means

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Jesus surrendered divine attributes rather than veiling his glory. He

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veiled his glory. He did not surrender divine attributes because

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he was still God. That's the whole idea of the

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hyposthetic union, true God, true man at the same time

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a right. So Number one, knoticism denies or diminishes Jesus

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full deity during his incarnation, all right, Any even if

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they again, and sometimes it may not even be a

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denial or diminished. I think it just ignores that Jesus

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was fully God. Number two, it begins to misinterpret Philippians too.

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Is basically almost as if Jesus surrendered his divine attribute.

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power because he lacked divine power. Now, even in the

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devotional I believe it said Jesus needed he needed the

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Holy Spirit's power. He needed it. Well, when you suggest

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that Jesus needed the Holy Spirit's power, you're almost implying

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that well, he needed it because he lacked divine power.

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He didn't lack divine power. He is God. Next, this

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typically leads to the belief that believers can now then

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operate as Jesus did, if we'll simply depend on God

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in the same way. See, if we'll just be like

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Jesus was a man, he relied on the Holy Spirit

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quoted scripture. If we'll be if we'll just rely on

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the Holy Spirit and quote scripture, dun duntu nuh, we

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can do what Jesus did. Did you like my singing? Okay,

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I know, I know I probably shouldn't do that. Ever, again,

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the point is is that's a problem. So I've defined it.

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I've given you the key errors of kannoticism. You're ready

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again denies or diminishes or ignores the full deity of

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Christ during his incarnation. Misinterprets Philippians too as somehow assuming

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that kenosis means Jesus surrendered divine attributes rather than simply

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velling his glory. Number three, it suggests that Jesus needed

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the Holy Spirit's power, I guess, almost implying that he

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lacked divine power. And number four, and this is the

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big one. It ultimately will lead whenever you hear sermon

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that basically gives this idea that, hey, Jesus operated in

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the flesh basically as a man. He relied on the

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Holy Spirit. He quoted scripture, you can do the same thing.

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Then we're entering, Well, we are out of the car.

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We're not. We're moave, moving into the canotic neighborhood, is

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what we're doing at that point. Now, the origin of

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canotic heresy, it's rooted in nineteenth century German liberal theology.

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I would love to give you the names of the

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individuals who are kind of responsible for this, but I

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did not spend a lot of time trying to make

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sure I could state their names correctly, So I'm not

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even attempting. I'm going to try at this point. All right,

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Just note it started in nineteenth century German liberal theology.

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It was developed as an alternative to a classical crystological

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an alternative to classical Christology. It attempted to make Jesus

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divine and human nature is more comprehensible within rationalistic philosophy.

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So it took this idea of rationalistic philosophy. I said, Okay,

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how can we better comprehend the divine nature and the

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human nature?

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So, and since you begin to separate them out and

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separate them out so that you feel like you can

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better comprehend them, well, the more you separate them, you

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begin to enter into some problems. Now immediately or even

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early in the nineteenth century, Orthodox theologians condemned it. And

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why did they condemn it? Because it contradicts the Council

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of Chalceadon four fifty one a d. Every Christian, it

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should be required that you know that at least the

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seven ecumenical councils, at least six of them. Okay, well

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go seven, Well we could go eight. Wait, you need

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to know at least the first six or seven ecumenical

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councils and church history. You need to know them and

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know exactly what happened during them. But for the sake

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of this, you need to do everything in your power

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to find out what happened that the Council of Calcadan

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and four point fifty one AD, because it was at

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the Council of Chalcedon that fully affirmed that Jesus Christ

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is fully God and fully man, without confusion, without change,

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without division, and without separation. If you do not have

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the Chalcidon, well, sometimes refer to it as the Chalcedon

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or the Chalcidon definition, the Caonian definition, the definition of Chalcedon,

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I think maybe is the better way of place of

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putting it. You need to know that definition that gives

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us the hypostatic union. You need to know it. And

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at some point maybe we'll go back through that, but

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you you've got to know that. Look, I know churches

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love small groups, and I know the churches like fellowship's

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plot lugs and shaking hands and kissing babies and shopping

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trips and hunting trips and every other non sensical thing

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that really nobody really needs to go to church for.

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Because you can do all of those things on your own.

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You don't need to get together, you don't need the

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church to do it. I know everybody loves all of

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that little nonsensical stuff. How about I don't know, maybe

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take the time to say, we're going to study the

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Council of Chalcidon. We're gonna study the Calcedonian definition, the

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definition of Chalcedon about the hypostatic union, because you people

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need to know it, because we've got this thing spreading

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through Christianity which is destroying and a denial of the

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hypostatic union. While they even use the terms and claim

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they believe it. There is almost like what's happening. People

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are using the hyposthetic union in order to prove this

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canotic heresy. So at the Council of Chalcinon it affirmed

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that Christ is fully god fully man, without confusion, without change,

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without division, without separation. So there's the definition. Those are

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the key errors of kanoticism. That's the origin of canotic heresy.

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Now let's compare orthodox Christology versus kannoticism. Biblical Christology, Christology

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Calcedonian creed. Jesus is fully God and fully man, and

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his divine nature was never diminished. He voluntarily veled his glory.

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divine attributes and functioned only as a spirit empowered man.

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Anyone that focuses Jesus did it as a man. Jesus

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did it as a spirit empowered man. If you look

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at that, I'm sorry. We've got problems right here in

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River City. We've got tea with a we got trouble

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with a capital T. And that doesn't okay, I don't

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even remember the music. Man, you get the idea. Now, Kannoticism,

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this is what Ai says. Here's Ai. Kannoticism is a

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serious Christological error that diminishes jesus divine nature during his

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earthly ministry. Now it goes on to say something about

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the sermon, but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say

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what it says about the sermon, all right, okay, But basically,

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it's a serious Christological era that diminishes jesus divine nature

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during his earthly ministry. There we go, It diminishes his

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divine nature during his earthly ministry. Now it goes into

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a lot of things about the sermon, and then I

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love AI says, would you like historical references or further refinement?

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Now I may ask for some historical references later on,

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but for now, I just wanted a simple summary of it, right,

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And I think that does a pretty good job. I

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think that gives you a decent idea of what kannoticism is.

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Whattic haris he is, what this kinosis heresy is. I

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need you to know it. I need you to know it.

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Please know it. I think of yourself as a medical professional.

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You've got to be able to diagnose it. You've got

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to be able to identify it. You need to know

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the symptoms of it. Because this stuff is showing up

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in sermons. You gotta be able to hear it and

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go whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa time whoa No, no, no, no, no, no, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys,

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we're gonna all get infected. Stop. Put on a mask,

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put on gloves, wash your hands, run, Isolate it. Okay,

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put it in isolation, close the doors. It's unclean, Okay,

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whatever illustration you want me to use. So what I

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want to do is take you on a journey between

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I want you to take I'm gonna take you in.

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Let me say it this way. I'll take you on

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a journey. But this journey is gonna be about a

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conversation between me and artificial intelligence. So I was listening

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to a sermon, not the devotional. This is now a sermon.

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I think the name of the sermon is the philological

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God's Theological Continental Divide. Now that's a cool title. God's

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Theological Continental Continental Divide. That's a great title. I love

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that title. I mean, that's really cool. God's Theological Continental Divide.

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It has theology, something philological in the title. I do

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Theology Central Podcast. I'm down with this right, this is

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right up my alley. I'm like, okay, great. So I'm

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listening to this sermon, and as I'm listening to this sermon,

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I'm just listening to the sermon. I have AI the

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you know, chat GPT open, and I start typing. Listening

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to a sermon where the preacher just made the claim

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that Jesus had to depend on God. He mentioned the

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hypostatic union. When preachers say Jesus was dependent upon the

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Holy Spirit, God the Father, isn't that almost a denial

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of the hyposthetic union and not an affirmation. So that's

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what I say to AI. So I'm listening to this sermon,

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and again I'm gonna give you my exact words. I

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typed into AI listening to a sermon where the preacher

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made the claim that Jesus had to depend on God.

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He mentioned the hypostatic union. When preachers say Jesus was

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dependent upon the Holy Spirit of God the Father, isn't

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that almost a denial of the hyposthetic union and not

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an affirmation? AI says, that's a great theological observation. The

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doctrine of the hypostatic union states that Jesus Christ is

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fully God and fully man two natures united in one person,

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without confusion, without change, without division, without separation. This was

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defined at the Council of Chalcedon four fifty one AD.

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I love that. I love that. Look you need to

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if you have any power to teach anyone. I don't

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care if it's kids, I don't care if it's someone

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walking down the hallway between Sunday school and church, just

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stop them and teach them the Council of Calcedon and

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the Calcedonian definition. All right, Christ is fully God and

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fully manned, two natures united into one person, in one person,

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without confusion, without change, without division, without separation, as defined

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in the Council of Chalcedon. Now, this is what AI says.

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When preachers say that Jesus was dependent on God, they

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often mean that in his humanity he dine perfect reliance

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on the Father and the Holy Spirit. However, if this

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statement is not carefully nuanced, it can indeed risk undermining

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the hypostatic union. See it's see if there's I think, well,

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I think this is true. Oh I cannot. I cannot

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be dignatic. I don't know about other professions. I can't

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speak for other professions, so I don't want to make

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an illustration. I will say this within theology, well, I

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don't even know if I can make this statement. All right,

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I'm going to say what it should be. Clearly, this

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is not what it is. Well maybe maybe in a

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seminary classroom it is, but okay, when it gets to

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the church it isn't and seminary when it comes to theology,

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it has to be very nuanced. It has to be defined,

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it has to be precise. You have to make sure

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you're very careful or you end up an error when

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it gets to the church. Pastors, I don't even know

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why they go to seminary, because everything you learn into

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seminary once you get behind the pull. But you're supposed

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to just forget about all of that because nobody wants

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all of that. It's not supposed to be academic. It's

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supposed to be devotional. It's supposed to be it's supposed

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to be a don't just stop all of that nonsense. Right.

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The church is the you know, you know what the

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church is. It's the place where theology comes to die.

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That's where it is, right because you can't get all

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nuanced and precise because it takes too much time. When

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we may go past noon and I don't like it.

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It's like being in a college classroom and I just

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want to feel Jesus, I don't really want to learn

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any Okay, I've heard all of the complaining about it

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my whole Christian life. I guess so sick of it. Right,

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It's like, well, I thought we were about the Bible

456
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and doctrine and theology. Yeah, but in preaching they want

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something they don't really want to be precise. So so

458
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many times in a sermon, philological nuance is sacrificed. It's

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killed like a like a lamb on, you know, for

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a burnt offering. But the minutes you're not nuanced, especially

461
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when you begin talking about Christ and human nature divine nature.

462
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If you're not careful, you slide right over into these heresies.

463
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Now here's why it begins to undermine the hyposthetic union

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Christ divine nature as God, Jesus is co equal, coeternal,

465
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and con and consubstantial with the Father. He's co equal,

466
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coeternal and consubstantial with the Father, I can speak correctly

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and the Holy Spirit. If dependence is taken to mean

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that he lacked divine power or authority, this would contradict

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his divine nature, coequal, co eternal, right consubstantial with the Father.

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So if you say dependent, you got to what do

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you mean by that? Like in his humanity, he had

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no power, so he had to lie on God, the

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Father had to rely on the Spirit in order to

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have power in order to overcome sin, because he was

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only overcoming sin purely by the power of the Holy Spirit.

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And now you're separating as humanity from his deity, Christ's

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human nature. In his incarnation, Jesus voluntarily assumed a human nature,

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experiencing human limitations, hunger, fatigue, suffering. In this sense, he

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demonstrated perfect reliance on the Father, not because he ceased

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to be God, but because he truly lived as a man.

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So he lived as a man, but you got to

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be very careful what you mean by that, because he

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didn't cease to be God. So you've got to understand

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the divine nature. You've got to understand his human nature. Now,

485
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if you're not careful, this runs into subordinationism, right, This

486
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is basically leads to the risk of functional subordinationism. Some

487
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preachers unintentionally say suggests that jesus dependence means he functioned

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in a subordinate manner even in his divinity, which can

489
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lead to a problematic view of the trinity. The father,

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son and Spirit are distinct persons but equal in power

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and glory. If jesus dependence is framed as a limitation

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of his divine will, that borders on denying his full deity.

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So whenever you just say he needed or he depended

494
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on or he relied on, woa, what do you mean here?

495
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You've got to be very precise or it's a functional subordinationism,

496
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And well, I don't, I don't. I think you've got

497
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to be careful there. Now, AI says, here's a better

498
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way to articulate this is that there's a better way

499
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to articulate this is that Jesus and as human nature

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perfectly obeyed and relied on the Father and the Spirit,

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but in his divine nature he remained self sufficient and

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co equal with him. If a sermon fails to make

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the distinction, then it leans more towards a denial rather

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than an affirmation of the hypostatic union. See, Jesus did

505
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some things in his humanity ultimately in order to well

506
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to be our substitute, to do that which would need

507
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he would need to do in order to well provide

508
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us righteousness, obedience, and all of those types of things.

509
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But never don't ever think that in his divine nature

510
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that it wasn't there that he lost his deity. So

511
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Ai then asked me a question. As I'm listening to

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the sermon, Ai basically interrupts the sermon and says, is

513
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the preacher providing any specific biblical passages to support his point?

514
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Many use Philippi two six to eight, but sometimes without

515
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fully explaining how kenosis self emptying should be understood. So

516
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so it was funny because it was like Ai was

517
00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:13.360
getting interested, Hey are they providing any scripture? Hey, what's

518
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:16.440
going on? Hey? Talk to me, come on, tell me

519
00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:19.360
what's going on? And I'm like, okay, hey, hey, shsh,

520
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I'm trying to listen to the sermon. Man be quiet.

521
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So then I respond to Ai. I said, well, he's

522
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not really he's not really providing anything. And then I

523
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told Ai, when the sermon is finished, I will attach

524
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a transcript.

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Uh.

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And then I said, it seems common that the idea,

527
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the idea preachers try to make is that Jesus relied

528
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on God just like we have to so that we

529
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can have similar level of success, power of victory as

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Jesus if we depend on the Spirit and the Father

531
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the same. I think this is just flawed and illogical

532
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:53.360
and unbiblical. Am I missing something? And then Ai says, no,

533
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:56.880
You're not missing anything. That kind of reasoning Jesus had

534
00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:59.159
to depend on God just like we do so we

535
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:01.840
can have the same power and success he did is

536
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:10.400
deeply flawed piologically and practically. And then so I'm trying

537
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:12.599
to listen to the sermon. Then Ai begins to write

538
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a book. It just goes crazy at this point, and

539
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:17.000
so then Ai starts breaking this all down. This is

540
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what Ai says. Ai says, here, if that basically this

541
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:27.599
way of reasoning misunderstands the hypostatic union, if Jesus had

542
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to rely on God in the same way we do.

543
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That would imply that he was merely a man with

544
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no inherent divine power. But Jesus is not just a man.

545
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He is fully god fully man. His obedience and reliance

546
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on the Father were not due to any lack of

547
00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:48.760
divine power, but rather a part of his role in

548
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:52.599
the economic Trinity. How the prisons of the Trinity operate

549
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in salvation history well. In his humanity, he submitted to

550
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the Father, he never ceased to be fully divine and

551
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self sufficient. Right number two. It distorts the relationship between

552
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Jesus and believers. We are not like Jesus in the

553
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same way that Jesus is like the Father. Jesus is

554
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the eternal son, second person of the Trinity. We are

555
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created beings who have no divine nature. Even if we

556
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are given the Holy Spirit, we do not become like

557
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Jesus in his essence. Saying that we can achieve the

558
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same level of victory, success or power as Jesus by

559
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simply depending on the Spirit is misleading. Jesus never had

560
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to send nature, never needed regeneration, never struggled with faithlessness.

561
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We are entirely different in our make up number three.

562
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It leads to a faulty theology of Christian power. The

563
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idea that if we just depend on God like Jesus did,

564
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we will have the same success is often used to

565
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promote the belief that Christians can walk in constant victory,

566
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free from struggles, sickness, or faith. But that is not

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what the Bible teaches. Even Paul, who certainly depended on God,

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dealt with suffering, weakness and affliction. If the logic of

569
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these preachers were correct, Paul should have been able to

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walk in the same power Jesus did. Yet Paul himself

571
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admitted his own weaknesses, his own struggles, and his own sin.

572
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It misuses Philippians too. And what is fascinating is this point.

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AI's just going on. AI's like, okay, I don't know

574
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:31.400
what's going on in the sermon you're listening to, but

575
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:34.559
let me just go Like AI just takes off Ai

576
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:37.199
just like I'm going all in. Hey, It's almost like

577
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AI was as bothered as I was getting so Ai says.

578
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:44.920
Some preachers cite Philippians two to argue that Jesus was

579
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merely a spirit empowered man, but kenosis does not mean

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he emptied himself of divinity. He emptied himself by a

581
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taking on human nature in the form of a servant.

582
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Others used John five nineteen. The son can do nothing

583
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:00.000
of his own accord to claim Jesus had no power

584
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:03.320
apart from the Father. But this passage must be understood

585
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:07.280
within the broader context of John's Gospel, which repeatedly affirms

586
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Christ's divine authority John one one through three and John

587
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ten thirty. Right, So then, now, ay, I just jumps in.

588
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:18.880
I love this. This kind of preaching often comes from

589
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:21.280
the Word of Faith or charismatic movements, where there is

590
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:24.559
strong emphasis on believers walking in supernatural power, just as

591
00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:28.599
Jesus did. However, the error comes from failing to distinguish

592
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between Christ's unique identity and our human condition. Jesus did

593
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not rely on God in the same way we do,

594
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:39.239
and we will never experience the kind of divine power

595
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:42.599
he possessed. We should depend on God, but our dependence

596
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:45.159
is that of sinners needing grace, not that of the

597
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:49.360
eternal Son who took who voluntarily took on human limitations

598
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while never ceaseem to be God. And then AI interrupts again. Hey,

599
00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:57.280
at this point was just going crazy. I was like,

600
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I always thought, ay, I was never going to stop.

601
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:04.400
Then finally I said, hey, do you have the transcript?

602
00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:08.000
When will you have it? It will be interesting to

603
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:13.480
analyze where the sermon went wrong and it's reasoning. AI

604
00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:17.440
was like, give me the transcript. I want the transcript.

605
00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:20.360
I wanted to say, you can't handle the transcript. Okay,

606
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:22.960
see I'm borrowing. Okay, never mind, it's a joke, people,

607
00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:26.360
it's a joke. Okay. But so I was like, just look,

608
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I can't help I can't help it that churches don't

609
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upload their content right after the message. So I waited

610
00:40:33.400 --> 00:40:36.599
and waited and waited. It was just about an hour

611
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:42.079
ago that they finally uploaded the message and I was like, yes,

612
00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:46.800
so I gave Ai the message. Now here's the thing

613
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:55.519
I could just start reading to you. AI's total AI

614
00:40:55.679 --> 00:41:00.440
goes crazy on this sermon. AI loses it's mine. I mean,

615
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:02.760
I know it doesn't have a mind. AI just tears

616
00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:08.159
this sermon into shreds and just take it. Does not

617
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:10.760
like this sermon. It does not like this sermon in

618
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any way, shape or form right, and it clearly says

619
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it undermines the hypostatic union. It goes crazy. But what

620
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I want to do is less. I'll let you start

621
00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:24.199
hearing some of the sermon. We're already at forty one minutes.

622
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If we if we start trying to go too much,

623
00:41:26.920 --> 00:41:30.159
I almost could stop this right now, but I'll let

624
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:32.480
you at least preview some of the sermon, kind of

625
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:35.239
get an idea, and then what we'll do is we'll

626
00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:39.280
come back, well, well, we'll do probably a we'll end

627
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:42.000
up doing probably a full review of the sermon, and

628
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:45.000
I'll just respond in real time. Maybe we'll end up

629
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:46.800
getting to every Maybe they'll come a point in the

630
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:48.960
sermon where I can just go straight to everything AI

631
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:52.519
said about it. But at least at this point you

632
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:54.679
now have done I think you have a pretty under

633
00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:59.079
a good understanding of the hypostatic union. I think you

634
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:03.440
have a proper understanding of than what kanoticism is, canotic

635
00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:07.119
heresy is, and that gets that. That's really the goal

636
00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:10.119
tonight is just so that you know it right and

637
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:12.760
you know what we're looking for, what we're listening for.

638
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:16.800
So I'm gonna let you hear a beginning of this now.

639
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:21.400
I skipped the introduction. It sounds like that this is

640
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some kind of like youth rally, and they've got the

641
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youth broken into some kind of guess names like the

642
00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:32.079
Marines the Rangers. I don't and they're playing I guess,

643
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I guess based on how many people you bring, then

644
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:37.519
your group gets so many points. It's that typical youth

645
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:41.079
church culture that I'll never understand in a million years.

646
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And the games I don't whatever. Okay, whatever churches do,

647
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:48.480
I don't even understand. Ninety nine percent of stuff. What

648
00:42:48.519 --> 00:42:50.239
they do, I don't even know where it derived from.

649
00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:53.239
There's no biblical model, there's no biblical exemptle just it

650
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:56.400
turns into like, hey, I don't know. And sometimes it's

651
00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:58.760
like the older people in the church are trying to

652
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create some what they think is and hip stuff for

653
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:03.039
the young people, and the young people I think are

654
00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:06.039
just looking at them like are you serious? Maybe maybe

655
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:08.280
church kids love it. Maybe church kids love it. I

656
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:12.920
don't know. From not growing up in church and then

657
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:15.719
becoming a Christian as a teenager entering into that world,

658
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:18.079
I looked around like this is the lamest stuff I

659
00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:20.360
have ever seen. Do you people take this serious? Like?

660
00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:23.920
What is this nonsense? Okay? Can I just learn the Bible?

661
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:25.599
I don't need you to give me a pizza. I

662
00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:27.760
don't need all of this nonsense. Can we just learn

663
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:30.199
the Bible for growing out loud? Okay, I don't need

664
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:32.039
you to get I can go home and have far

665
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:33.920
more fun than this lame fund you're trying to give

666
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:36.440
me in church. Okay, please please just get me out

667
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:40.039
of here. So, but that's maybe if you're raised in church,

668
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:42.519
you're like, oh, I loved it, it was so much fun,

669
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:44.960
and well, that's great. I'm glad you did it. But

670
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so I skipped all of that. I don't even know

671
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:49.880
what all of it was great. And now he's about

672
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to get into the sermon. Right. We're not gonna get far,

673
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but I want you to hear it. I don't think

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we're even going to get to the problem where the

675
00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:00.960
problem starts. If we start identifying any of the problem,

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00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:02.679
I'll tell you to write it down. But here's a

677
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:05.039
little bit of it. I think I'm probably gonna have

678
00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:07.960
to increase the volume of this, but this is what

679
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:11.199
we have right now. It was uploaded not too long ago,

680
00:44:11.679 --> 00:44:16.400
so it's hot off the press, right, hot off, Hot

681
00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:18.400
off the press. Even though it's not a paper, it's

682
00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:22.239
an audio file. The transcript. I downloaded it, gave it

683
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:27.719
to AI. AI was like, oh, what is this? AI

684
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:30.039
was not happy with it in any way, shape or form,

685
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:36.599
And it's just weird. I just don't know how this

686
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canotic heresy kinoticism has so why it's creeping into now

687
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churches that are not even charismatic, but there when it

688
00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:55.559
comes to theology, I think this is very important. There

689
00:44:55.599 --> 00:45:05.719
aren't walls, there aren't borders. Theology crosses all whatever perceived barrier.

690
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:12.039
It enters any church anywhere, at any time. So when

691
00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:14.360
takes an idea, in many cases they don't even know

692
00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:19.519
they've embraced a heretical idea, and you'll be like, Okay,

693
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:21.360
what are you talking about? Where did you get that

694
00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:24.920
idea from? And not even realize one of my Again,

695
00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:30.840
functionally speaking, most non Catholic churches are Catholic because they

696
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:34.719
almost teach a form of infused righteousness and deny salvation

697
00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:39.800
by imputed righteousness, at least functionally. Practically, maybe on paper

698
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:42.880
they say we are made righteous by an imputed righteousness,

699
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:46.800
but in every other way it's functionally and infused righteousness.

700
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:48.239
And then you've got to do this, and do this

701
00:45:48.320 --> 00:45:49.840
and do this to prove that you're safe. Well, you

702
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:52.639
can't do anything to prove you're saved by imputed righteousness,

703
00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:57.519
because imputed righteousness doesn't change you. But because there's no barrier,

704
00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:05.559
there's no walls, there's no borders, false teaching illegally enters anywhere,

705
00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:07.880
it goes anywhere. There's there's no way to stop it.

706
00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:12.440
All right, let's listen to a little of this.

707
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:16.400
Well, we've been on a journey together and you probably

708
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:20.760
have noticed some theming Europe about revival. And I'd like

709
00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:23.039
to give on the practical side of revival here tonight.

710
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:26.280
If I could do that more practically speaking, one of

711
00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:32.559
the great truths of the revived life. And I'm gonna

712
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:35.519
call the message. You're gonna start with a really long title.

713
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:38.679
But by the end of the message, I'm gonna change

714
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:40.760
the title. Can I do that, and I'll give I'm

715
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:42.719
gonna give you a clue. At the end of the message,

716
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:46.400
the title won't have any letters in it, Okay, just numbers.

717
00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:49.920
Okay, So we're gonna start with a long title.

718
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:53.840
I want to preach tonight on God's theological continental divide.

719
00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:58.519
God's theological continental divid.

720
00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:01.360
Now, I love the way he starts, because that's kind

721
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:04.639
of cool. The title is God's Still Logical Continental Divide.

722
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:05.800
But when he gets to the end, he's going to

723
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:08.000
change the title, and it's not gonna have any letters.

724
00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:12.039
All right, he just laid out the hook. He hooked

725
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:13.960
me in. All right, I'm interested. I got to hear

726
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:16.880
the end of this to see how he changes the title. Now,

727
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:21.679
for some weird reason, when they uploaded it, they went

728
00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:24.760
with the title God's Still Logical Continental Divide, and they

729
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:28.159
don't actually change the title. Maybe that's maybe, actually, maybe

730
00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:30.639
they're smart, right because when you listen, you're like, oh,

731
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:33.360
well they called it God's Still Logical Continental Vibe. That

732
00:47:33.400 --> 00:47:35.360
means I have to listen to see what the new

733
00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:37.400
title is because I don't just give it to me.

734
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:40.280
So that's actually, I guess, actually that's kind of cool,

735
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:42.840
right because now you got to listen to know some

736
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:44.559
of you now are gonna some of you are gonna

737
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:46.199
be like, well, so what was the new title? What

738
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:49.360
was the new title? What was the new title? Well,

739
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:51.719
you're gonna have to go listen and find out, all right,

740
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:53.639
some of you right now are fast forwarding to the end,

741
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:55.079
going what was it? What was it?

742
00:47:55.639 --> 00:47:55.760
Right?

743
00:47:56.280 --> 00:48:00.199
So that's kind of cool. That's kind of brilliant, right.

744
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:03.079
He lays out something that you've got to listen to

745
00:48:03.079 --> 00:48:06.119
the end to get. All right, I'm all for it.

746
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:07.679
Let's see where it goes.

747
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:11.679
Now as an evangelist, many Saturdays, I will get my

748
00:48:11.719 --> 00:48:14.480
truck and I'll get myself a nice big cup of coffee,

749
00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:17.480
hopefully dunkin Donuts or Tim Horton's. I think I told

750
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:19.400
you the other night. Yea, my favorite is Tim Hortons,

751
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:22.760
second is dunkin Donuts. Third, maybe McDonald's. Who knows two

752
00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:25.320
hundred and seventy fifth, two thousand and seven hundred and

753
00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:29.079
fifty fifth is the Starbucks. Okay, but anyway, but I'll

754
00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:31.400
get to that truck, get that cup of coffee, and

755
00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:34.559
head down the road. And particularly when I'm out west,

756
00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:36.960
guess what happens. I hit the big one. You ever

757
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:38.599
hit the big one? You're towing a trailer. If you

758
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:40.000
don't tow a trailer, you don't know what the big

759
00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:43.760
one is. It's like seven or eight miles incline. And

760
00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:45.679
of course when you have a stick like I've got.

761
00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:47.400
By the way, isn't.

762
00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:50.119
It sad that these young people will never really know

763
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:50.880
what a stick is.

764
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:55.079
Okay, But anyway, but I get that thing in.

765
00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:56.960
Of course, you're in fifth gear and you hit that,

766
00:48:57.039 --> 00:48:59.199
you hit that, You hit that mountain hard. I mean,

767
00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:01.519
you come in as as as you can and not.

768
00:49:01.760 --> 00:49:04.159
It doesn't take long. You're dropping down to fourth gear

769
00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:06.320
and then your r's drop a little bit more, and

770
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:08.760
then you're down shifted to the third and open like crazy.

771
00:49:09.039 --> 00:49:11.320
You don't head us, hit us behind a semi.

772
00:49:11.639 --> 00:49:13.400
And then you get behind a semi going five miles

773
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:15.920
an hour and you're down shifting the second gear and

774
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:20.039
you climb that seven mile mountain in second gear and

775
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:24.280
toward the top, your rs start going up and you realize, oh,

776
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:26.480
we're getting to the top and maybe you can upshift.

777
00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:28.760
And anybody's vibe been with me? Any?

778
00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:31.320
Okay, okay, all the older people are okay.

779
00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:31.719
Yeah.

780
00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:33.880
You get in the third gear there and you start

781
00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:36.360
crusting that hill and then you see a big brown sign.

782
00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:39.599
You've ever seen it out west the United States Western

783
00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:44.800
Continental Divide. Now, what's the significance of that continental divide? Well,

784
00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:47.000
if you're a human being, not a whole lot. But

785
00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:50.320
if you're a rain drop, it's okay.

786
00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:51.760
So he's going to talk about the difference in the

787
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:55.400
continental divide if you're a rain drop. Okay, this is interesting.

788
00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:57.880
I guess now, I think what he's setting up here,

789
00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:00.559
now that I'm listening to it a second, Tome, I

790
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:03.760
think what he's setting up is now maybe he just

791
00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:05.800
wanted to tell a cool story to get to draw

792
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:08.760
people's attention. But I think the idea is the continental divide.

793
00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:12.639
You have this seven mile incline right well, that the

794
00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:15.400
Christian life. You can be living in Christan life and

795
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:18.199
you get to this incline. How are you ever going

796
00:50:18.280 --> 00:50:20.119
to deal with this incline? How are you going to

797
00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:22.239
get to the top, How are you going to get there?

798
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:25.159
How what do you do? What do we rely on

799
00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:27.559
to get there? How can we get there? I think

800
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:29.800
that's where he's gonna go. Let's see now he's going

801
00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:31.320
to talk about if you're a rain drop and you

802
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:33.719
fall on one side of the continental divide, where you're

803
00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:35.760
going to end up, versus if you fall on the

804
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:38.159
other side of the continental divide, where you're gonna end

805
00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:42.440
up one ends up in what welly it'll he'll he'll

806
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:42.679
tell you.

807
00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:47.159
He'll tell you significant because if you fall on the

808
00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:50.119
eastern side of that continental divide, you're going to go

809
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:53.599
into the Mississippi River. You're going to go down river

810
00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:57.440
into the Gulf of America. See I got it right. Okay, Yeah,

811
00:50:57.480 --> 00:50:59.840
you're going to go down the river into the Gulf

812
00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:00.800
of America.

813
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:03.519
And you might even end up in Tampa Bay. Wow.

814
00:51:03.639 --> 00:51:04.920
That'd be pretty neat, wouldn't it.

815
00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:09.119
Oh yeah, Now, if you fall on the western side

816
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:12.440
of the continental divide, you might have to go through California.

817
00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:13.039
What a bummer?

818
00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:16.039
Okay, But anyway, yeah, got to go through and go

819
00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:18.800
to the Pacific Ocean. Well, you know that's a big difference,

820
00:51:18.880 --> 00:51:22.519
isn't it. Pacific Ocean and Tampa Bay. Big difference, no

821
00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:25.840
doubt about it. Okay, Literally a few inches can make

822
00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:28.920
a determination on the destination of that rain drop. Now

823
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:31.800
we know rains random, it can't control where it lands.

824
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:36.159
But on God's theological continental divide, you can control where

825
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:39.000
you land. But now we all know there's a continental

826
00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:40.519
divide when it comes to salvation.

827
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:47.000
So when it comes to God's theological continental divide, we

828
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:52.079
choose which side we fall on. So there's a con

829
00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:56.119
So there's a philological continental divide, and you and I

830
00:51:56.280 --> 00:52:02.199
choose which side we fall. There's some interesting concepts here

831
00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:06.599
Right now, I'm more interested in the hypostatic union, the kenosis,

832
00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:10.559
canotic heresy. That's but all this other stuff I do

833
00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:12.320
want to take from it is does God have a

834
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:15.920
thiological continental divide? And how do I choose which side?

835
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:19.559
Now he says there is a continental divide in salvation. Okay,

836
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:22.119
I think we can probably agree with this. Let's see

837
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:22.559
what he does.

838
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:24.559
We all know.

839
00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:28.320
That if you make right a decision to trust the

840
00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:31.199
Lord and as your savior, and you trust him for

841
00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:34.079
sins forgiven eternal life, you fall on the right side

842
00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:36.320
of the countin avide sins forgiven on your way to heaven,

843
00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:38.920
spend attorney with the Lord. Wow, but if you don't

844
00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:40.679
get saved, you fall on the wrong side of the

845
00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:43.199
count little divide, die in your sins, go to a

846
00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:46.159
devil's hell for all of eternity. Hey, there's no greater

847
00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:47.960
difference in all the world than.

848
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:48.400
Heaven and Hell.

849
00:52:48.440 --> 00:52:52.639
That's the greatest too, diametrically opposed destinations in the universe.

850
00:52:54.400 --> 00:52:58.000
Okay, so this falls into theological decisionism. All right, we

851
00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:01.679
got it. You make the decision Heaven or Hell. You

852
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:04.599
make the decision all right, Now this gets into Wait

853
00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:08.679
a minute, So does deprave nature impact my ability to decide?

854
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:12.840
Am I totally depraved or not totally? If I'm totally depraved,

855
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:15.320
then that's going to impact the decisions I make because

856
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:18.519
I have a sinful nature. So, either you believe in

857
00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:20.800
total depravity or you don't. Now, if you don't, you're

858
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:23.199
a Pelagian. If you do, you're an august If you

859
00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:25.960
believe in total depravity, you would be then more classified

860
00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:29.360
as an Augustinian. If you don't believe in total depravity,

861
00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:32.480
then you believe, then you're basically a Palagian. It's one

862
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:36.000
of the others, Pelagianism and Augustinianism. It's one of the others.

863
00:53:36.119 --> 00:53:39.760
That's basically where it ends up historically theologically speaking. Now,

864
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:42.760
I know so many Look, I went to who knows

865
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:46.400
how many different schools, especially independent fundamental Baptist schools, who

866
00:53:46.440 --> 00:53:50.440
taught decisionism, and they would say, we believe in total depravity. However,

867
00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:55.920
total depravity somehow magically did not impact the will. I

868
00:53:55.920 --> 00:53:58.679
don't know how that worked. Okay. In fact, one my

869
00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:03.599
independent Fundamental dispatcher's pastor said, the will is insulated, it's

870
00:54:03.639 --> 00:54:06.840
inside of you, but it's insulated from depravity. Depravity cannot

871
00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:10.199
touch the will. Well, if depravity can't touch the will,

872
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:13.280
then I can just will to be perfect. Therefore I

873
00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:16.880
can be sinless, don't even need regeneration, don't even need God,

874
00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:19.440
don't even need the Gospel. I just need a list

875
00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:21.639
of rules, and then I can do it because my

876
00:54:21.719 --> 00:54:24.480
will is not impacted by my depravity. Do you see?

877
00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:27.800
If you make the will completely free, then people can

878
00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:32.239
freely choose to be perfect. They don't need God, they

879
00:54:32.320 --> 00:54:36.079
don't need the Holy Spirit, they don't need anything. If

880
00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:39.000
you say no, the will is impacted by sin, well,

881
00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:41.079
then how can anyone then make a decision to be

882
00:54:41.159 --> 00:54:43.880
saved if the will is impacted by sin. It comes

883
00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:47.199
down to that. Oh, this stuff drives me crazy when

884
00:54:47.199 --> 00:54:50.760
you get Christians talking about these things. Okay, but right,

885
00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:54.920
it's coming from the position of philological decisionism. Okay, fine, great,

886
00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:57.639
not even going to criticize it, that's okay, that's okay,

887
00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:02.320
all right, So but just remember, philologically and logically, if

888
00:55:02.360 --> 00:55:09.400
you believe in philological decisionism or soteriological decisionism or Salvafic decisionism,

889
00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:12.519
then you have to believe the will is free and

890
00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:17.199
not impacted by deprave nature. Now the minute you believe that, well,

891
00:55:17.199 --> 00:55:19.400
then guess what to be a Christian? To be perfect,

892
00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:22.800
to be holy, you don't need anything because your will

893
00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:29.599
is free. All right, let's continue, and.

894
00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:33.119
Really you make the decision which side of that continental

895
00:55:33.159 --> 00:55:34.079
divide you fall on.

896
00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:36.639
Are you tracking with me? But I'm not preaching on

897
00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:37.199
that tonight.

898
00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:39.159
I want to preach on the continental divide in the

899
00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:42.360
Christian life. If you fall on the right side of

900
00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:44.960
the continental of vide, there's a lot of answers to prayer,

901
00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:48.320
there's a lot of optimism, a lot of blessing, a

902
00:55:48.320 --> 00:55:52.480
lot of encouragement, and there's just a lot of just

903
00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:55.599
a divine sense in your life. If you fall on

904
00:55:55.639 --> 00:55:57.239
the wrong side of the countin Loivi avide, a lot

905
00:55:57.239 --> 00:56:00.480
of defeat, a lot of discouragement, and not a lot

906
00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:02.639
of answers to prayer, not a lot of optimists, a

907
00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:03.719
lot of pessimisms.

908
00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:10.360
Okay, now this is important. There's now a theilological divide

909
00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:13.960
within the Christian life. If you fall on one side,

910
00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:17.199
you get answered prayers, you get joy, you get optimism,

911
00:56:17.599 --> 00:56:19.960
everything's great. If you fall on the other side of

912
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:25.639
the philological divide, not many answered prayers, pessimism, cynicism, discouragement

913
00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:29.840
to prayer. It doesn't sound good. So are you? Are

914
00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:33.320
you down? Discouraged, not seeing answered prayers, don't feel like

915
00:56:33.639 --> 00:56:36.400
you know God is doing anything well because you've fallen

916
00:56:36.440 --> 00:56:39.239
on the wrong side of the philological continental divide. You

917
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:42.119
gotta get on the other side of the theilological continental divide.

918
00:56:42.119 --> 00:56:44.039
If you can get on the other side, boom, then

919
00:56:44.039 --> 00:56:46.840
God will answer your prayers. Boom. Everything will be going great.

920
00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:50.320
The sun will come out, Skittles will fall from the rainbow.

921
00:56:50.519 --> 00:56:54.199
Everything's gonna be There's gonna be unicorns, butterflies. It's gonna

922
00:56:54.199 --> 00:56:56.920
be happy, happy, happy, happy, happy happy. But if you're

923
00:56:56.960 --> 00:57:01.159
on the other side, no skittles, no rainbow, no unicorns,

924
00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:05.639
no butterflies. It's dark, depressing, cynical. It's like living well

925
00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:08.199
in those states they get horrible winter storms that looks

926
00:57:08.239 --> 00:57:16.519
like the end of the world. Now that I don't

927
00:57:16.559 --> 00:57:18.840
know about you, I want to be on the right

928
00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:22.280
side of the philological continental divide. How do I get

929
00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:24.960
on the right side of this thing? All right, You've

930
00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:28.440
got me hooked. Now I need to know, don't you

931
00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:30.360
need to know? How do I get on the right

932
00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:33.000
side of the continental divide? Please tell me how do

933
00:57:33.079 --> 00:57:34.360
I get on the right side of this?

934
00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:36.639
Now?

935
00:57:36.679 --> 00:57:39.039
What makes the difference whether or not a Christian falls

936
00:57:39.320 --> 00:57:41.840
on what we could call the slopes of defeat or

937
00:57:41.880 --> 00:57:42.960
the slopes of victory?

938
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:44.199
What makes the difference?

939
00:57:44.679 --> 00:57:46.920
Well, we have to make the decision which side we're

940
00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:49.239
gonna fall on. I'd like you to go to Classians

941
00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:51.400
Chapter one here tonight, Classians.

942
00:57:53.079 --> 00:57:55.559
All right, so it comes down to your decision. You

943
00:57:55.599 --> 00:57:58.960
just have to decide you will either be on You

944
00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:01.159
will either decide to be on the slopes of defeat

945
00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:05.760
or the slopes of victory. And it just is your decision. Now.

946
00:58:05.840 --> 00:58:10.280
Once again, this seems to imply then, all right, so

947
00:58:10.599 --> 00:58:13.000
this is like a not only has he gone a

948
00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:16.760
soteriological decisionism, this seems like, I don't know, we call

949
00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:21.599
a sink a sanctification type decisionism. It becomes you just decide,

950
00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:24.280
you just make the decision. I want to be on

951
00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:29.039
the slopes of victory. Dun dun, dun, duh. But what

952
00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:30.519
if I end up on the other side, but I

953
00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:32.960
feel like I've decided the other side, Well, then then

954
00:58:33.079 --> 00:58:35.400
I really didn't make that decision. Now he's going to

955
00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:41.079
Colossians one here. I'm a little nervous here, I'm very,

956
00:58:41.199 --> 00:58:47.199
very very nervous. In fact, Ai I think absolutely annihilated here.

957
00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:56.000
Let me see here, I see here, let me look here. Okay, yes,

958
00:58:56.199 --> 00:58:58.639
it does not like what he does with Colautions here.

959
00:58:58.679 --> 00:59:01.760
AI does not like what happens to Colaussians one. Here.

960
00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:04.719
Let's let him quote it Colossians chapter one. I think

961
00:59:04.760 --> 00:59:08.320
he's going to verse twenty nine. Now he's just gonna

962
00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:10.519
basically rich step in and rip this verse so far

963
00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:13.039
out of context that context is not even going to matter.

964
00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:14.440
Let's see what happens here.

965
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:16.960
It's chapter number one.

966
00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:19.360
Now, I want you to look at verse number twenty nine,

967
00:59:19.920 --> 00:59:23.760
and let's look at God's theological continent of eye. Look

968
00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:26.719
at verse twenty nine. It says the apostle Paul is speaking.

969
00:59:26.760 --> 00:59:29.480
Maybe we could look back to verse twenty seven. Notice

970
00:59:29.480 --> 00:59:32.400
what he says. It says, which is christ in you

971
00:59:33.320 --> 00:59:36.320
the hope of glory. He is obviously talking here about

972
00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:38.960
one of the key truths we talked last night about

973
00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:41.079
getting to be perfect and the entire wanting nothing.

974
00:59:41.679 --> 00:59:42.480
Well, I'm telling.

975
00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:44.960
Your friends, christ in you the hope of glory is

976
00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:47.000
part of that, because notice what it says, that we

977
00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:50.119
may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus verse twenty eight.

978
00:59:50.679 --> 00:59:53.920
Then Paul says this, where into I also labor talking

979
00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:56.440
about the Lord Jesus, this great truth that he lives

980
00:59:56.440 --> 01:00:01.239
in us. Where into I also labor, striving according to

981
01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:05.239
his working, which worketh in me mightily.

982
01:00:05.960 --> 01:00:06.679
Now let me give you.

983
01:00:06.599 --> 01:00:09.440
A story here that may help us kind of begin

984
01:00:09.480 --> 01:00:12.119
to lay out what we're talking about here tonight, sylph.

985
01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:17.719
Okay, he just read it. He didn't explain it, Ai said,

986
01:00:18.079 --> 01:00:21.039
And we'll get more into this. The sermon misapplies Colousians

987
01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:23.639
one twenty nine, assuming that Paul's striving was a model

988
01:00:23.679 --> 01:00:27.079
of total self abandonment, when in reality, Paul speaks about

989
01:00:27.079 --> 01:00:30.519
his laboring being empowered by God, not a passive or

990
01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:34.119
mystical experience. Now there, he didn't really do anything with it.

991
01:00:34.159 --> 01:00:36.840
But it does not. It basically accuses this sermon of

992
01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:40.480
misapplying Colossians one twenty nine. Now he just read it,

993
01:00:41.960 --> 01:00:45.679
whereinto I also labor striving according to his working, which

994
01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:51.079
worketh in me mightily. All right, now he's going to

995
01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:53.280
go tell a story. Let's see what the story.

996
01:00:53.079 --> 01:00:55.440
Is year's ago.

997
01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:59.079
I was in Wyoming in a church in Cheyenne. I

998
01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:01.360
was doing revival me. I think it was Tuesday night.

999
01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:03.280
I could be wrong about that, but.

1000
01:01:03.239 --> 01:01:05.320
A young lady came up to me after the message out.

1001
01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:07.639
In the lobby, and she said something to me that

1002
01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:10.519
it was a little disconcerting as a preacher. She said, Now,

1003
01:01:10.519 --> 01:01:13.199
brother van Gildron, she said, I've been raised in independent

1004
01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:15.960
Baptist churches. She said, I grew up at and she

1005
01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:18.920
named an independent Baptist church which if I named tonight,

1006
01:01:19.320 --> 01:01:21.559
if you knew anything about the movement, you would have

1007
01:01:21.639 --> 01:01:24.599
recognized the name of that church. She said, I grew

1008
01:01:24.679 --> 01:01:27.599
up at some such Baptist church, she said, just a

1009
01:01:27.679 --> 01:01:31.480
year ago. Excuse me, I moved out here to Cheyenne.

1010
01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:34.159
And she said, I have never heard what you preached

1011
01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:37.440
the night. Never, She said, I always thought the Christian

1012
01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:41.519
life was fifty to fifty fifty percent me and fifty

1013
01:01:41.519 --> 01:01:42.559
percent God.

1014
01:01:43.519 --> 01:01:44.840
So what is the Christian life?

1015
01:01:45.639 --> 01:01:48.960
Is it fifty to fifty sixty forty maybe seventy thirty,

1016
01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:52.400
maybe eighty twenty, ninety, ten, ninety five, five, ninety nine one?

1017
01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:54.960
How much of the Christian life is you? And how

1018
01:01:55.039 --> 01:01:57.199
much of the Christian life is God. Now, did you

1019
01:01:57.239 --> 01:01:59.960
notice what the apostle Paul says. He says he's labor,

1020
01:02:01.199 --> 01:02:04.679
he's striving. Wow, what does that mean? But he's doing

1021
01:02:04.679 --> 01:02:09.480
it according to his working, which workethin me mightily. So

1022
01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:11.840
how much of the Christian life is you? And how

1023
01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:13.400
much of the Christian life is God?

1024
01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:15.639
Now? What I'd like us to do tonight is get

1025
01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:16.159
out our.

1026
01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:20.880
Spiritual looking glasses and could we become spiritual Sherlock Holmes tonight?

1027
01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:24.039
And I want to give you three clues that help

1028
01:02:24.119 --> 01:02:27.559
us understand how to answer this, because really the answer

1029
01:02:27.719 --> 01:02:30.320
puts us on one side or the other of the

1030
01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:32.239
continental divide in the Christian life.

1031
01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:36.800
All right, So how much of the Christianity of our

1032
01:02:36.880 --> 01:02:39.000
Christian life is us? And how much of it is God? Now?

1033
01:02:39.039 --> 01:02:41.679
Remember he already said that we have to make a decision. Well,

1034
01:02:41.679 --> 01:02:44.280
if we have to make a decision, then we're involved.

1035
01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:48.039
I mean, if salvation is part of me making a decision,

1036
01:02:48.079 --> 01:02:50.440
and if whichever side of the continental divide that I

1037
01:02:50.519 --> 01:02:53.480
fall in is based off my decision, well then that's

1038
01:02:53.480 --> 01:02:56.360
something I have to do. I have to make the decision.

1039
01:02:57.199 --> 01:03:00.599
No one is making it for me, right, so then

1040
01:03:03.599 --> 01:03:07.480
I think you know where he's going though clearly I

1041
01:03:07.519 --> 01:03:09.320
think what he's going to say is that we don't

1042
01:03:09.360 --> 01:03:11.440
have any part of it, which is going to go

1043
01:03:11.559 --> 01:03:16.800
to this weird almost Well, yeah, all right, let's I'm

1044
01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:18.760
just gonna go let him go a little further. We're

1045
01:03:18.800 --> 01:03:21.039
already at an hour. If I keep going, we're going

1046
01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:24.039
to be at this all day, so all night. So

1047
01:03:24.840 --> 01:03:27.960
let's just play just a little bit more, and.

1048
01:03:27.920 --> 01:03:30.599
I think it will make sense as time goes on, Okay,

1049
01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:34.199
because I want us to to get a hold of

1050
01:03:34.199 --> 01:03:35.039
this simple truth.

1051
01:03:35.320 --> 01:03:38.800
That's profound, but it is. It is simple. So let's

1052
01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:39.159
go look.

1053
01:03:39.199 --> 01:03:42.199
Please, First of all, if you're in Colossians, chapter number one,

1054
01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:44.760
go down to chapter two and verse number six.

1055
01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:49.000
Chapter two, verse number six. Notice what it says, as.

1056
01:03:48.840 --> 01:03:52.960
You have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walking

1057
01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:55.960
at him now. It's a very important verse and it

1058
01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:58.639
teaches us truth. Notice, if you would please, it has

1059
01:03:58.679 --> 01:04:00.000
two verbs, two verbs.

1060
01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:00.599
It's okay.

1061
01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:03.800
The first verb is the verb received and the second

1062
01:04:03.880 --> 01:04:07.199
verb is the verb walk. One is talking about salvation

1063
01:04:07.639 --> 01:04:10.599
and one is talking about sanctification or the Christian life.

1064
01:04:10.760 --> 01:04:13.519
The word received is in a different tense than walk.

1065
01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:16.800
Anytime you're studying a versus scripture. We were taught years

1066
01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:19.800
ago when I took the language of Greek. You're taught

1067
01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:21.480
if there's different tenses.

1068
01:04:21.079 --> 01:04:22.639
It's usually significant.

1069
01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:26.360
And the first tense is the Earth's tense, which views

1070
01:04:26.400 --> 01:04:29.480
the action as a whole, which makes sense because when

1071
01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:32.760
you got saved, it wasn't a process, it was an event.

1072
01:04:33.960 --> 01:04:36.159
You know, somebody thinks salvation is a process. You've got

1073
01:04:36.199 --> 01:04:38.960
to enter works into the caucasion. You know, if you

1074
01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:40.679
walked up to somebody on the street and say when'd

1075
01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:41.360
you get saved?

1076
01:04:41.559 --> 01:04:43.400
Or are you saved? Hey, I'm saved. When did you

1077
01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:46.000
get saved? Nineteen eighty one to nineteen eighty three, that'd

1078
01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:46.760
be odd, wouldn't it.

1079
01:04:47.719 --> 01:04:51.079
You might have conviction and you might have illumination that

1080
01:04:51.239 --> 01:04:53.679
leads you up to a salvation moment. But there's a

1081
01:04:53.719 --> 01:04:58.639
salvation moment. Reception means you're lost, hell bound and you

1082
01:04:58.760 --> 01:05:02.559
receive Christ Jesus Lord, and you're saved. It's just a

1083
01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:05.159
twinkling of an eye. It's a moment when we put

1084
01:05:05.159 --> 01:05:07.760
our trust in the Lord. So the Bible says there's

1085
01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:11.719
something about that salvation moment that moment of reception.

1086
01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:14.159
God says, so walky in him.

1087
01:05:14.760 --> 01:05:18.360
That needs to be reduced or reproduced in our Christian walk.

1088
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:22.480
Now we know walk is already reiterated steps, but this

1089
01:05:22.559 --> 01:05:25.400
particular walk is in the present tense. It simply means

1090
01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:29.800
it's durative. It's a process, you know how it is.

1091
01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:31.800
The moment you get saved to the moment you die

1092
01:05:32.119 --> 01:05:33.119
is the Christian walk.

1093
01:05:34.039 --> 01:05:34.880
The Christian life.

1094
01:05:34.920 --> 01:05:38.840
We call it in theology sanctification, and that is a

1095
01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:43.519
step by step process different than salvation because it's salvation,

1096
01:05:43.639 --> 01:05:47.079
it's once for all, hallelujah, aren't you glad? But satisfication

1097
01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:49.519
isn't that it's a step by step process. But the

1098
01:05:49.519 --> 01:05:53.199
Bible Does'll say this that the same dynamic that occurred

1099
01:05:53.599 --> 01:05:57.000
when you receive Christ, Jesus the Lord for salvation, is

1100
01:05:57.039 --> 01:05:59.519
the same dynamic that needs to occur in.

1101
01:05:59.480 --> 01:06:01.119
Every step of your Chrystian life.

1102
01:06:02.039 --> 01:06:03.400
Okay, now there's a lot of different I got a

1103
01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:05.440
whole message on this, which I'm gonna can't preach obviously

1104
01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:08.039
because we're going a different direction. But I would like

1105
01:06:08.079 --> 01:06:11.599
to say this, when you got saved, how much of

1106
01:06:11.639 --> 01:06:14.760
the saving did Jesus do and how much did you

1107
01:06:14.800 --> 01:06:18.880
do none.

1108
01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:23.440
Now that sounds very reformed, and salvation it was all God,

1109
01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:25.840
none of you. Well, then you can't say then I

1110
01:06:25.960 --> 01:06:28.880
decided you would have if for it to be all God,

1111
01:06:29.320 --> 01:06:31.920
God would have to be the one who does the saving,

1112
01:06:32.039 --> 01:06:36.960
including giving me the faith to believe. Faith is a gift.

1113
01:06:37.239 --> 01:06:39.840
He gave me the faith to believe, So it's not

1114
01:06:40.039 --> 01:06:43.880
me deciding. God granted me the faith to believe, meaning

1115
01:06:43.920 --> 01:06:46.480
it's all God. If you leave the decision up to me,

1116
01:06:46.920 --> 01:06:49.559
then I am involved. So we But it's it's such

1117
01:06:49.559 --> 01:06:52.800
a weird that all these games that get played around this,

1118
01:06:53.199 --> 01:06:56.840
so I know they're not reformed. So this is the

1119
01:06:56.920 --> 01:06:59.920
idea that you making a decision is not you make

1120
01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:02.800
a decision like but you're part of the process. But

1121
01:07:02.880 --> 01:07:04.760
he doesn't want us to be a part of the process.

1122
01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:07.039
So then it gets kind of odd here. Let's just

1123
01:07:07.079 --> 01:07:07.800
go a little further.

1124
01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:12.039
Could we say that salvation is zero one hundred? Could

1125
01:07:12.039 --> 01:07:14.280
we say that? Sure? We could?

1126
01:07:14.639 --> 01:07:16.199
You know, I think it's good every once in a while,

1127
01:07:16.199 --> 01:07:18.920
as a Christians say, you know, if going to Heaven

1128
01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:21.320
depended on me one tenth of one percent, I would

1129
01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:24.119
die in my sins or go to hell.

1130
01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:28.000
Now, I completely agree. If salvation depended on me, even

1131
01:07:28.039 --> 01:07:30.920
to the smallest level, I would go to hell, meaning

1132
01:07:31.199 --> 01:07:33.800
even my decision, because I have a sinful nature. So

1133
01:07:33.920 --> 01:07:35.440
God has to grant me faith.

1134
01:07:36.280 --> 01:07:36.519
Right.

1135
01:07:36.599 --> 01:07:39.239
So it's like, on one hand, I'm agreeing with this,

1136
01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:41.159
but I know he doesn't mean it the way I

1137
01:07:41.280 --> 01:07:44.920
mean it is because they're not reformed. They're not coming

1138
01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:47.000
in from me. What you so may accuse of being

1139
01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:51.679
a calvinistic perspective. But okay, but what he's setting up

1140
01:07:51.719 --> 01:07:54.920
then is this salvation had nothing to do with you.

1141
01:07:55.039 --> 01:08:01.000
Sanctification has nothing to do with you. Zero zero. God

1142
01:08:01.039 --> 01:08:04.079
does it all? Okay? Well, this raise, it's all kinds

1143
01:08:04.079 --> 01:08:05.320
of questions, doesn't it.

1144
01:08:07.920 --> 01:08:10.880
Listen, If any part of salvation depends on me, I

1145
01:08:10.920 --> 01:08:14.039
couldn't save myself and you can't either. When you and

1146
01:08:14.079 --> 01:08:15.760
I got saved, I'll tell you what we did. We

1147
01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:20.720
totally trusted Jesus to do everything we could never do.

1148
01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:23.039
Do you hear that. I'll tell you what we did

1149
01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:27.399
in salvation. We trusted Christ. We trusted Christ. Well, then

1150
01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:32.880
that's we doing something now. I believed because he gave

1151
01:08:33.039 --> 01:08:37.960
me faith. I changed my mind because he changed my

1152
01:08:38.279 --> 01:08:43.399
God did it it's this. It's weird semantics, but it's

1153
01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:47.079
this is what we say in theology. It takes philological

1154
01:08:47.159 --> 01:08:48.199
nuance here.

1155
01:08:51.039 --> 01:08:54.560
And it's it's totally zero one hundred. We're trusting him

1156
01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:58.079
to do the saving and that he does it. Okay, Now,

1157
01:08:58.159 --> 01:09:01.920
the Bible says that dynamic needs to be duplicated in

1158
01:09:01.920 --> 01:09:02.840
the Christian life.

1159
01:09:03.640 --> 01:09:04.600
That's clue number one.

1160
01:09:05.640 --> 01:09:07.800
You say, on a wait a second, preacher, how could

1161
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the Christian life be zero one hundred? Because if I'm zero,

1162
01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:17.119
Paul says, he's laboring. How's that zero? Paul says he's striving.

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01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:18.880
How in the world is that zero? Well, that's a

1164
01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:22.439
good question, is so let's answer it, Okay, because I

1165
01:09:22.439 --> 01:09:24.560
think it's important to so go We'll go to the

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01:09:24.600 --> 01:09:25.279
next clue.

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01:09:25.560 --> 01:09:26.840
That might be a hell.

1168
01:09:27.119 --> 01:09:30.319
Several years ago, I was out preaching in a camp

1169
01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:33.000
out that would be east of Los Angeles.

1170
01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:35.760
How many river flown into Lax anybody out here? Okay?

1171
01:09:35.760 --> 01:09:36.239
Many of you have?

1172
01:09:36.319 --> 01:09:38.720
Okay, So you know, as you're coming into Lax which

1173
01:09:38.760 --> 01:09:40.960
is the Los Angeles basin there, you can see the

1174
01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:43.159
Pacific Ocean off in the distance. On a clear day,

1175
01:09:43.399 --> 01:09:45.439
you kind of see the smog laying down there in

1176
01:09:45.439 --> 01:09:49.199
the basin, and usually there's no there's usually no not

1177
01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:52.159
many clouds. And you see the San Bernardino Mountains there

1178
01:09:52.159 --> 01:09:54.079
on the north and the high desert up over them,

1179
01:09:54.439 --> 01:09:57.279
and you come over the golf courses in the desert,

1180
01:09:57.520 --> 01:09:59.560
and then you come over a mountains, so a section

1181
01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:02.119
of amountain into the La Basin. Well, I was at

1182
01:10:02.159 --> 01:10:04.640
a camp in those mountains. It was beautiful, so it

1183
01:10:04.760 --> 01:10:06.880
is really a different kind of beauty. And about one

1184
01:10:06.960 --> 01:10:10.960
hundred and fifty teenagers there, and I was preaching every night,

1185
01:10:11.039 --> 01:10:13.159
and I think it was Tuesday night, could have been Wednesday,

1186
01:10:13.279 --> 01:10:13.960
something like that.

1187
01:10:14.439 --> 01:10:16.119
A young pastor twenty four years.

1188
01:10:15.960 --> 01:10:18.399
Old from Los Angeles came and they had him give

1189
01:10:18.399 --> 01:10:21.600
a testimony. I'll never forget that testimony because he was

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01:10:21.680 --> 01:10:22.640
certainly sincere.

1191
01:10:23.239 --> 01:10:25.920
But he said something that troubled me.

1192
01:10:26.920 --> 01:10:28.840
You ever been sitting in the audience and the preacher

1193
01:10:28.880 --> 01:10:31.760
says something, you're thinking, I don't know about that, And

1194
01:10:31.800 --> 01:10:33.880
here's what he said. He meant, Well, he was sincere.

1195
01:10:33.920 --> 01:10:36.560
I didn't blame him for sincerity, but here's where he said, Now,

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01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:41.039
young people, I know the Christian life's hard, I know

1197
01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:41.960
the Christian.

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01:10:41.640 --> 01:10:45.439
Life's difficultly went on, I'm thinking to myself, man, I

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01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:46.399
don't agree with that.

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01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:49.640
I just do not agree with that. So the next

1201
01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:52.159
night I just wove it into the message. I didn't

1202
01:10:52.159 --> 01:10:54.880
want to embarrass him. But the way you think is important,

1203
01:10:54.920 --> 01:10:58.520
isn't it? And truth is important. So I just started

1204
01:10:58.560 --> 01:11:00.880
preaching and I wove it into the message, and I said, now,

1205
01:11:00.920 --> 01:11:01.960
listen to me, young people.

1206
01:11:02.279 --> 01:11:06.199
The Christian life's not hard. The Christian life's not difficult.

1207
01:11:06.479 --> 01:11:12.399
It's impossible. And you say, preacher, what's the difference. Well,

1208
01:11:12.399 --> 01:11:13.159
the difference is this.

1209
01:11:13.319 --> 01:11:15.199
If the Christian life's hard and difficult, you know what

1210
01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:20.920
the answer is, try harder, grit your teeth a little

1211
01:11:20.920 --> 01:11:25.439
bit longer, reach down inside and pull something out. Pull

1212
01:11:25.479 --> 01:11:28.760
yourself up by your bootstraps. Have you ever thought about

1213
01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:32.960
how dumb that is. We can take the strongest person

1214
01:11:32.960 --> 01:11:35.560
in the room, put them on the lobby and and uh,

1215
01:11:35.800 --> 01:11:37.079
you know, have them grab their shoelaces.

1216
01:11:37.079 --> 01:11:38.079
Okay, pull yourself up.

1217
01:11:38.119 --> 01:11:39.840
Now we could be able to do it.

1218
01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:44.600
And so the problem is that the Christian life's hard

1219
01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:45.920
and the Christian life's difficult.

1220
01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:51.560
The answer is try harder. But if the Christian life's impossible,

1221
01:11:51.600 --> 01:11:57.199
don't miss this. You need divine intervention. Remember what Jesus said,

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01:11:57.199 --> 01:11:59.960
Without me, you can do nothing.

1223
01:12:02.159 --> 01:12:04.680
You see where this is going? D you see? Are

1224
01:12:04.680 --> 01:12:08.319
you catching on how this could possibly end up with canosis?

1225
01:12:08.960 --> 01:12:11.920
What it's canosis theology. What he's going to say is

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01:12:12.079 --> 01:12:15.960
Jesus and his humanity required on God. He had to

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01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:18.479
have the Holy Spirit, he had to have God. He

1228
01:12:18.560 --> 01:12:20.760
had to rely on God to be able to do

1229
01:12:20.800 --> 01:12:23.680
these things. And if we will we can't do it.

1230
01:12:23.760 --> 01:12:26.159
But if we'll simply rely on God, we'll fall on

1231
01:12:26.199 --> 01:12:28.239
the right side of the continental divide. And then the

1232
01:12:28.319 --> 01:12:31.199
Christian life we can do it because it's impossible. But

1233
01:12:31.279 --> 01:12:33.760
if we rely on God, then we can just I

1234
01:12:33.800 --> 01:12:36.119
don't know. I guess we have complete and total victory.

1235
01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:39.039
That's where this is. This is where the canosis situation

1236
01:12:39.199 --> 01:12:41.760
is getting ready to show up. We're almost there. Maybe

1237
01:12:41.800 --> 01:12:43.720
maybe we can get right to the point and we

1238
01:12:43.760 --> 01:12:44.359
can stop it.

1239
01:12:44.439 --> 01:12:50.640
There nothing eternal, nothing spiritual. He means it. I will

1240
01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:51.880
tell you, and I'm gonna be honest with you.

1241
01:12:51.920 --> 01:12:54.119
One of the most freeing thoughts I have ever thought

1242
01:12:54.199 --> 01:12:57.399
as a Christian is this, The Christian life is impossible

1243
01:12:59.039 --> 01:13:01.800
because I've tried many times to live the crystial life

1244
01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:02.920
and fall on flat on my face.

1245
01:13:02.960 --> 01:13:03.880
I bet you you have too.

1246
01:13:05.279 --> 01:13:08.199
And I've learned something about the crystian life in my

1247
01:13:08.239 --> 01:13:08.760
own strength.

1248
01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:09.199
I can't do.

1249
01:13:11.039 --> 01:13:14.079
You know, there's something about impossible things. Yeah, this may

1250
01:13:14.119 --> 01:13:16.840
shock you, but you know what you will learn about

1251
01:13:16.840 --> 01:13:23.399
impossible things? They're impossible. Now let me illustrate it this way.

1252
01:13:23.439 --> 01:13:25.520
How many out here have an active dream life? You

1253
01:13:25.520 --> 01:13:27.680
know what I'm talking about. You dream at night and

1254
01:13:27.720 --> 01:13:28.319
you remember them.

1255
01:13:28.359 --> 01:13:30.079
Okay? Can I see your hands laze your dream some?

1256
01:13:30.439 --> 01:13:32.079
Okay, boy man, most of you have missed it out

1257
01:13:32.119 --> 01:13:33.880
of life. Some of the most exciting things have ever

1258
01:13:33.920 --> 01:13:35.399
happened to me have been in the dreams, you know,

1259
01:13:35.640 --> 01:13:38.079
talking about some guy chasing me with a bloody knife,

1260
01:13:38.159 --> 01:13:40.359
you know whoa and then you can't run, Like, where

1261
01:13:40.359 --> 01:13:42.720
does that go? Where does that come from? I mean, wow,

1262
01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:44.479
you've had that one too. I can see some of

1263
01:13:44.479 --> 01:13:45.119
you have that one.

1264
01:13:45.239 --> 01:13:45.600
Okay.

1265
01:13:45.680 --> 01:13:47.479
Yeah, And then you fall off a cliff, you know

1266
01:13:47.520 --> 01:13:49.000
I'm talking about, hurtling toward your death.

1267
01:13:49.159 --> 01:13:49.880
Then you wake up.

1268
01:13:49.960 --> 01:13:51.600
It's kind of nice you don't have to watch yourself

1269
01:13:51.600 --> 01:13:54.560
go splat on the canyon floor, but nonetheless wake up.

1270
01:13:54.640 --> 01:13:57.039
That's another one, and but I'll tell you my favorite

1271
01:13:57.119 --> 01:13:59.119
dreams a bit a while since I've had it, I

1272
01:13:59.159 --> 01:14:01.640
can fly. Many I've ever dreams you can fly. Wasn't

1273
01:14:01.640 --> 01:14:04.600
that the coolest dream? I remember one time I was

1274
01:14:04.720 --> 01:14:07.720
so convinced I can fly. When I woke up, I

1275
01:14:07.840 --> 01:14:09.920
was so bummed out I can't.

1276
01:14:09.800 --> 01:14:10.560
Fly after all?

1277
01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:12.840
Man that I thought, this is I'm making big plans

1278
01:14:12.840 --> 01:14:13.840
on this flying stuff.

1279
01:14:14.199 --> 01:14:14.760
Wow.

1280
01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:18.640
Yeah, you know there's something about flying without any aid.

1281
01:14:18.960 --> 01:14:21.039
Human beings can't do that. You know why. It's impossible.

1282
01:14:21.920 --> 01:14:24.479
Doesn't matter how much you flap your wings. It doesn't

1283
01:14:24.479 --> 01:14:28.039
matter how you we human beings cannot fly. You know,

1284
01:14:28.079 --> 01:14:29.560
some of these young people have bought a big ten

1285
01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:32.279
T shirt with a big superhero logo on it. I

1286
01:14:32.439 --> 01:14:34.760
sometimes have to warn them, don't get a bath foel

1287
01:14:34.760 --> 01:14:36.239
for mom and dad and jump out of the third

1288
01:14:36.239 --> 01:14:38.960
story window because you're not going into the wild blue yonder.

1289
01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:43.199
You're going to the hospital. Okay, Yeah, it's not gonna work. Yeah,

1290
01:14:43.239 --> 01:14:48.439
why because it's impossible. Now, if the Christian life is impossible, friends,

1291
01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:50.680
do you know what you and I need all the time?

1292
01:14:50.760 --> 01:14:53.119
Don't miss this divine intervention?

1293
01:14:55.760 --> 01:15:01.439
Yep. So if the Christian life you need is divine intervention,

1294
01:15:01.600 --> 01:15:04.239
and God intervenes, then I guess you can fly. I

1295
01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:06.279
guess you can do the impossible. I guess you can

1296
01:15:06.319 --> 01:15:10.520
basically be perfect and holy. So all right, where where

1297
01:15:10.640 --> 01:15:12.079
is it? Let's let's I want to go just a

1298
01:15:12.119 --> 01:15:12.640
little further.

1299
01:15:14.079 --> 01:15:17.840
I need divine an intervention all the time because without

1300
01:15:17.920 --> 01:15:23.560
him we can't do anything. Now, maybe I'll help you

1301
01:15:23.760 --> 01:15:27.039
with this a little bit, because sometimes we get it

1302
01:15:27.319 --> 01:15:29.800
when it comes to salvation, but we don't get it

1303
01:15:30.039 --> 01:15:33.039
when it comes to the Christian life. So let's imagine

1304
01:15:33.039 --> 01:15:36.560
you're witnessing to a next door neighbor. They actually want

1305
01:15:36.560 --> 01:15:39.520
to get saved. And so I'm gonna ask you a question.

1306
01:15:39.520 --> 01:15:42.560
You're witnessing give him the gospel. How much self dependence

1307
01:15:42.600 --> 01:15:43.840
can a seeking.

1308
01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:45.760
Sinner have before he can't get saved?

1309
01:15:46.199 --> 01:15:48.119
I mean, this guy wants to get saved, But how

1310
01:15:48.199 --> 01:15:51.800
much self dependence can a seeking sinner have before he

1311
01:15:51.800 --> 01:15:58.600
can't get saved? And the answer is, can't have any.

1312
01:15:56.920 --> 01:15:57.600
Can't have any.

1313
01:15:58.399 --> 01:16:00.680
Okay, So here's a Christian saved the way to heaven

1314
01:16:01.199 --> 01:16:04.920
and they want victory. They're sick of defeat. They want victory.

1315
01:16:04.960 --> 01:16:07.720
So how much self dependence can a seeking saint have

1316
01:16:07.840 --> 01:16:10.800
who's sick of defeat wants victory. How much self dependence

1317
01:16:10.840 --> 01:16:13.960
can to seeking saint have before they won't have victory,

1318
01:16:13.960 --> 01:16:15.239
They'll be still to be defeated.

1319
01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:17.119
How much self defendence can they happen? The answer is

1320
01:16:18.439 --> 01:16:20.800
they can't have any I don't miss this.

1321
01:16:21.359 --> 01:16:23.600
We get it on salvation, but we don't in the

1322
01:16:23.680 --> 01:16:24.600
Christian life.

1323
01:16:26.720 --> 01:16:29.119
So in the Christian life you can see where this

1324
01:16:29.159 --> 01:16:32.439
is going. Just you can do nothing, you just rely

1325
01:16:32.520 --> 01:16:34.560
on God and he does it. Well, then you know

1326
01:16:34.600 --> 01:16:37.359
how this works. Then if I just rely on God anything,

1327
01:16:37.399 --> 01:16:39.840
I don't do anything I fall short of in the

1328
01:16:39.880 --> 01:16:44.319
Christian life, Well, then obviously it's God because it all

1329
01:16:44.319 --> 01:16:46.960
depends on God. But then will then somehow you'll still

1330
01:16:46.960 --> 01:16:49.680
get blamed. Well, you're not really relying on God, You're

1331
01:16:49.720 --> 01:16:52.279
not really depending on God, because if you're really relying

1332
01:16:52.279 --> 01:16:54.239
and depending on God, then you would have nothing but

1333
01:16:54.279 --> 01:16:56.920
pure victory. So you're saying anything less than pure victory.

1334
01:16:56.960 --> 01:16:59.079
I'm not relying on God. So then it does rely

1335
01:16:59.520 --> 01:17:01.399
It does on me because I do not have to

1336
01:17:01.399 --> 01:17:04.279
rely on God. So it is it me or is

1337
01:17:04.319 --> 01:17:06.159
it not me? Is it God? Is it not God?

1338
01:17:06.199 --> 01:17:08.840
Who gets the blend, it becomes very convoluted.

1339
01:17:11.399 --> 01:17:16.079
So how much amount of self dependence sets you up

1340
01:17:16.119 --> 01:17:21.680
for failure? And the answer is any amount. Okay, we're

1341
01:17:21.680 --> 01:17:25.920
starting to get it. We learned our first clue that well,

1342
01:17:26.119 --> 01:17:28.880
salvation as you receive Christ Jesus, the Lord, so walking

1343
01:17:28.920 --> 01:17:31.560
in him, it seems like salvation zero one hundred seems

1344
01:17:31.600 --> 01:17:33.479
like that's what the Christian life's gonna be.

1345
01:17:34.079 --> 01:17:38.000
Then we learn secondly that we can't do anything without him.

1346
01:17:38.039 --> 01:17:41.079
The Christian life is not hard, it's not difficult, it's impossible.

1347
01:17:41.960 --> 01:17:45.960
We need moment by moment divine intervention. That's called grace.

1348
01:17:46.039 --> 01:17:48.359
We talked about that Sunday morning that brings us to

1349
01:17:48.399 --> 01:17:51.000
clue number three. Can we get clue number three? Okay,

1350
01:17:51.000 --> 01:17:54.159
here's clue number three. Uh, for time, don't turn. Many

1351
01:17:54.159 --> 01:17:57.560
of you are familiar with Two Corinthians, chapter twelve, and

1352
01:17:57.640 --> 01:18:00.840
you may remember the apostle Paul played three times for

1353
01:18:00.880 --> 01:18:04.640
a thorn to be taken away, and the Lord Jesus

1354
01:18:04.720 --> 01:18:07.239
finally comes to him and says, this, my grace is

1355
01:18:07.239 --> 01:18:08.039
sufficient for THEE.

1356
01:18:08.359 --> 01:18:09.399
Help me out with the next phrase.

1357
01:18:09.399 --> 01:18:11.840
We're kind of more familiar with the first phrase, four,

1358
01:18:12.640 --> 01:18:17.079
my strength is made perfect in the word weakness is

1359
01:18:17.119 --> 01:18:18.159
a very interesting word.

1360
01:18:18.840 --> 01:18:19.760
The root word is.

1361
01:18:19.760 --> 01:18:21.600
The word strength with an alpha.

1362
01:18:22.520 --> 01:18:24.880
Now, most of us are familiar in English that when

1363
01:18:24.880 --> 01:18:27.840
you take a noun and you put an a before it,

1364
01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:30.760
it negates it. We all know what muse means. You

1365
01:18:30.760 --> 01:18:34.640
don't muse means think. You put an a before that,

1366
01:18:34.720 --> 01:18:37.800
and you know what that means of use? Okay, you're

1367
01:18:37.840 --> 01:18:40.840
not thinking. Okay, we understand the English. How about this one.

1368
01:18:41.000 --> 01:18:43.720
A theist. We all know what a theist is. A

1369
01:18:43.760 --> 01:18:48.279
theist isn't necessarily somebody saved. It's somebody who believes in deity.

1370
01:18:48.439 --> 01:18:51.159
You could have a polytheist, the mono theist, whatever, but they.

1371
01:18:51.119 --> 01:18:52.239
Believe in deity.

1372
01:18:52.680 --> 01:18:55.079
If you put an a before the word theist, does

1373
01:18:55.119 --> 01:18:58.720
it change the definition quite a bit, doesn't it? How

1374
01:18:58.800 --> 01:19:01.600
much does an a theist believe in deity?

1375
01:19:01.640 --> 01:19:03.600
And the answer is not at all.

1376
01:19:04.399 --> 01:19:06.520
I like what one commentator said about the root word.

1377
01:19:06.680 --> 01:19:11.640
We get the word weakness. He said, it's strengthlessness, weakness

1378
01:19:11.680 --> 01:19:14.119
in the sense of strengthlessness.

1379
01:19:15.520 --> 01:19:17.079
Now I want you to think about this.

1380
01:19:17.399 --> 01:19:19.800
How much spiritual strength do you have in and of

1381
01:19:19.840 --> 01:19:20.880
yourself without Jesus?

1382
01:19:20.880 --> 01:19:21.880
So how much right now?

1383
01:19:22.239 --> 01:19:25.600
Spiritual power and strength you have in and of yourself

1384
01:19:25.840 --> 01:19:29.079
without Jesus? How much spiritual strength do I have in

1385
01:19:29.119 --> 01:19:30.560
and of myself without Jesus?

1386
01:19:30.760 --> 01:19:35.960
And the answer is we don't have any. Isn't that exciting?

1387
01:19:37.720 --> 01:19:38.680
It actually should be.

1388
01:19:40.239 --> 01:19:42.840
You know what the apostle Paul said after Jesus said

1389
01:19:42.840 --> 01:19:45.880
that to him, He said, most likely, therefore, will I

1390
01:19:45.960 --> 01:19:50.159
rather glory in my infirmities that the power of Christ

1391
01:19:50.199 --> 01:19:52.359
may rest upon me. You know, the word infirmities is

1392
01:19:52.399 --> 01:19:57.119
the same word weakness in the plural my strengthlessness.

1393
01:19:57.319 --> 01:19:58.520
That's the idea.

1394
01:19:58.880 --> 01:20:00.800
I'm going to glory in those why, that the power

1395
01:20:00.840 --> 01:20:02.000
of Christ may rest upon me.

1396
01:20:02.039 --> 01:20:04.640
Now, maybe these verses will have a new meaning to you.

1397
01:20:05.199 --> 01:20:09.119
Be strong in the Lord and in the power of Oh,

1398
01:20:09.159 --> 01:20:12.880
who's my His min I can do all things through Christ,

1399
01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:15.319
which so whose strength is it?

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Well, it's his strength.

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01:20:18.279 --> 01:20:23.159
Okay, notice our verse again, striving according to His working,

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01:20:23.880 --> 01:20:26.760
which worketh in me mightily. Now this brings us to

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01:20:26.760 --> 01:20:27.680
clue number three.

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01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:30.359
You know what we don't have in and of ourselves

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01:20:30.800 --> 01:20:31.720
without Jesus.

1406
01:20:32.119 --> 01:20:36.159
We don't have any spiritual strength where bankrupt.

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01:20:37.279 --> 01:20:39.800
I said this the other night when I was preaching.

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01:20:39.840 --> 01:20:42.680
I'll repeat it somehow when I was growing up, I

1409
01:20:42.680 --> 01:20:45.880
got the idea that I knew I was weak as

1410
01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:46.479
a Christian.

1411
01:20:46.560 --> 01:20:48.720
I knew it wasn't very strong Christian, But.

1412
01:20:48.720 --> 01:20:50.640
I got the idea that the Christian life was weak

1413
01:20:50.680 --> 01:20:52.359
little me getting stronger and stronger.

1414
01:20:53.319 --> 01:20:55.239
Man. By the time I'm fifty, man, I'm going to.

1415
01:20:55.239 --> 01:20:58.279
Be a giant spiritual And all of you that are

1416
01:20:58.319 --> 01:21:03.359
a little older know is I turn fifty and all

1417
01:21:03.399 --> 01:21:04.800
of a sudden I realize, you know, I still got

1418
01:21:04.840 --> 01:21:07.399
a bunch of issues. I'm not what I thought it

1419
01:21:07.439 --> 01:21:10.159
would be. And I learned something friends, and I don't

1420
01:21:10.159 --> 01:21:12.159
want you to miss this. The Christian life is not

1421
01:21:12.319 --> 01:21:16.239
weak little meat getting stronger and stronger and stronger. The

1422
01:21:16.319 --> 01:21:20.279
Christian life is weak, little meat, who will always be weak.

1423
01:21:20.640 --> 01:21:24.560
Tapping into Him who is strong, who will always be strong.

1424
01:21:26.279 --> 01:21:29.000
You will need Jesus the much the second before you die.

1425
01:21:29.039 --> 01:21:30.880
Then you'll need it as much then as you do

1426
01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:31.399
right now.

1427
01:21:33.840 --> 01:21:35.920
So if that's the secret, all I gotta do is

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01:21:35.960 --> 01:21:40.600
tap into Him, and then I have omnipotence. Right, All

1429
01:21:40.600 --> 01:21:42.680
I gotta do is tap into him. Now do I

1430
01:21:42.680 --> 01:21:45.640
tap into him? And he gives me only fifty percent strength?

1431
01:21:45.680 --> 01:21:51.319
Seventy percent strength twenty five percent strength. And if I

1432
01:21:51.359 --> 01:21:54.079
seem to show a lock of strength, is it because

1433
01:21:54.119 --> 01:21:56.359
I'm not tapping into him? Or is it because there's

1434
01:21:56.399 --> 01:21:57.520
something wrong with his strength?

1435
01:21:59.399 --> 01:22:01.760
And as you did when you're a teenager, we need

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01:22:01.880 --> 01:22:08.319
him all the time, all the time, every second, every moment.

1437
01:22:08.600 --> 01:22:11.560
It's a constant need to say, Jesus, I can't do

1438
01:22:11.640 --> 01:22:15.920
this without you, because I can't do anything without you. Friends,

1439
01:22:16.079 --> 01:22:18.640
all I want us to see is that we're completely

1440
01:22:18.680 --> 01:22:22.000
devoted of spiritual strength. So could we put it this way?

1441
01:22:22.359 --> 01:22:25.560
The Christian life is zero one hundred. It's zero percent

1442
01:22:25.640 --> 01:22:28.520
my will, one hundred percent his will. It's zero percent

1443
01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:31.039
dependence on my strength because I don't have spiritual strength.

1444
01:22:31.079 --> 01:22:33.560
I got physical strength, but I don't have spiritual strength

1445
01:22:33.560 --> 01:22:36.439
in and of myself. So it's one hundred percent dependence

1446
01:22:36.479 --> 01:22:38.520
on his strength because he got more than i'll ever need.

1447
01:22:39.640 --> 01:22:41.640
Suckkeet pressure. I think I'm tracking with.

1448
01:22:41.560 --> 01:22:45.920
You theologically, but practically, how do you live that kind

1449
01:22:45.920 --> 01:22:46.399
of life?

1450
01:22:46.479 --> 01:22:47.479
That's a really good question.

1451
01:22:48.359 --> 01:22:50.760
Fortunately, all throughout the Bible, there are a lot of

1452
01:22:50.840 --> 01:22:53.680
illustrations that help us, but the one I'd like to

1453
01:22:53.760 --> 01:22:57.119
use tonight is something that a human being did that

1454
01:22:57.239 --> 01:23:02.279
wasn't hard, It wasn't difficult. It was impossible. And that

1455
01:23:02.479 --> 01:23:07.600
is walking on water. Is walking on water hired? And

1456
01:23:07.720 --> 01:23:11.039
is walking on water difficult? And the answer is, well, no,

1457
01:23:11.840 --> 01:23:15.960
it's impossible. You could train for twenty years and you

1458
01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:17.920
won't be able to walk on water. Have you ever

1459
01:23:17.960 --> 01:23:20.399
noticed there's no walking on water contests in the Olympics.

1460
01:23:20.479 --> 01:23:23.359
Have you ever noticed that you? Have you ever noticed

1461
01:23:23.359 --> 01:23:25.439
that there are great athletes. They can skate on ice,

1462
01:23:25.479 --> 01:23:29.079
but they cannot walk one. Yeah, I hate to say this,

1463
01:23:29.199 --> 01:23:31.000
but Tom Brady cannot walk on water.

1464
01:23:31.680 --> 01:23:33.560
He can deplay football. You know what I'm talking about it.

1465
01:23:35.439 --> 01:23:37.680
Patrick Mahomes, I hate to tell you this, he cannot

1466
01:23:37.720 --> 01:23:39.680
walk on water. He knows how to throw interceptions in

1467
01:23:39.720 --> 01:23:42.239
the first quarter of a Super Bowl, he does not.

1468
01:23:42.439 --> 01:23:44.840
He can't walk on water. You get the idea. I

1469
01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:45.680
shouldn't say that.

1470
01:23:45.680 --> 01:23:47.880
There's some Kansas City fan who I just offended, Okay,

1471
01:23:47.880 --> 01:23:52.399
but anyway, Yes, the point is in matter who every

1472
01:23:52.479 --> 01:23:56.239
great athlete has a bad game, none of them can.

1473
01:23:56.119 --> 01:23:56.800
Walk on water.

1474
01:23:58.039 --> 01:24:01.319
Now, since walking on waters not hard, it's not difficult,

1475
01:24:01.319 --> 01:24:02.039
it's impossible.

1476
01:24:02.279 --> 01:24:04.039
No human being's ever done it, right, I mean.

1477
01:24:03.960 --> 01:24:06.760
After all it's impossible. So we just determined it's impossible.

1478
01:24:06.960 --> 01:24:08.960
So nobody's ever walked on water?

1479
01:24:09.039 --> 01:24:13.359
Right? Wrong? So who's walked on water? Two people?

1480
01:24:13.359 --> 01:24:17.239
Can you tell me Jesus And well, you say, preacher,

1481
01:24:17.359 --> 01:24:18.239
Jesus doesn't count.

1482
01:24:18.239 --> 01:24:20.319
He was God. Well that's true.

1483
01:24:20.520 --> 01:24:22.039
I don't want to preach a message right now in

1484
01:24:22.119 --> 01:24:24.000
the hyposthetic union, though I think it would be fun

1485
01:24:24.039 --> 01:24:26.479
to do it, because I think Jesus had to depend

1486
01:24:26.560 --> 01:24:27.880
on God just like Peter did.

1487
01:24:27.880 --> 01:24:31.399
But let's just leave that one alone there.

1488
01:24:31.439 --> 01:24:37.800
It was the hyposthetic union. Jesus is God, true, but

1489
01:24:38.880 --> 01:24:41.800
he had to depend on God just like Peter did.

1490
01:24:43.039 --> 01:24:46.560
He had to depend on God just like Peter did.

1491
01:24:46.640 --> 01:24:50.119
Ladies and gentlemen, that is not the hypostatic union. He

1492
01:24:50.159 --> 01:24:54.039
now just walked into denial of the haypostatic union. And

1493
01:24:54.079 --> 01:24:57.640
guess what he's going to say. Jesus relied on God.

1494
01:24:57.840 --> 01:25:00.680
He needed God, he was able to walk on Peter

1495
01:25:00.840 --> 01:25:03.359
relied on God he could walk on water. And if

1496
01:25:03.399 --> 01:25:07.439
we rely on God, well we can walk on water.

1497
01:25:07.600 --> 01:25:12.039
I guess that's where this is going. Now that gets

1498
01:25:12.119 --> 01:25:14.159
us right where we need to be. So now we

1499
01:25:14.239 --> 01:25:17.159
can stop, and now we have a great place to

1500
01:25:17.199 --> 01:25:19.319
begin next. I'm sorry I went so long, but now

1501
01:25:19.359 --> 01:25:21.439
we're set up. We're set up. Now he's going to

1502
01:25:21.560 --> 01:25:25.119
now go into basically how to live the Christian life

1503
01:25:25.159 --> 01:25:27.880
practically well. To live the Christian life is we live

1504
01:25:28.039 --> 01:25:30.439
just like Jesus, we rely on God, and if we

1505
01:25:30.479 --> 01:25:34.520
will rely on God, we can walk on water because

1506
01:25:34.680 --> 01:25:38.880
Jesus did. It's everything I said that church after church

1507
01:25:38.920 --> 01:25:42.119
after church they even mentioned the hyposthetic union, and then

1508
01:25:42.199 --> 01:25:49.560
walk right into a canotic a kinoticism, a knosis heresy

1509
01:25:51.520 --> 01:25:54.319
where you so focus on Jesus being a man and

1510
01:25:54.359 --> 01:25:57.399
that he needed God, relied on God in order to

1511
01:25:57.439 --> 01:26:00.319
do these things, and then therefore we would can just

1512
01:26:00.359 --> 01:26:03.800
follow the same principle and then we well, we can't.

1513
01:26:04.159 --> 01:26:06.640
The Christian life is impossible. We rely on God like

1514
01:26:06.760 --> 01:26:10.560
Jesus did, and then basically we get ultimate perfect victory.

1515
01:26:11.039 --> 01:26:17.920
That is a complete misunderstanding of it. All right, we'll

1516
01:26:17.960 --> 01:26:24.319
stop there now. If you'll look now we began I

1517
01:26:24.399 --> 01:26:27.119
told you. Now, if you'll look at the sermon's two

1518
01:26:27.119 --> 01:26:30.039
points oh up right now, guess what now, there's one

1519
01:26:30.119 --> 01:26:33.199
hundred and twenty nine live webcast. There was only there

1520
01:26:33.239 --> 01:26:35.760
was only like two going on when we started. There's

1521
01:26:35.760 --> 01:26:37.720
one hundred and twenty nine right now, so you can

1522
01:26:37.720 --> 01:26:40.079
go listen to one of them and then we'll finish

1523
01:26:40.079 --> 01:26:41.840
this or pick us up tomorrow. Now we have a

1524
01:26:41.960 --> 01:26:46.199
we're much more of a manageable way. This one had

1525
01:26:46.199 --> 01:26:48.560
to go long. The next one probably will go long

1526
01:26:48.600 --> 01:26:50.199
as well. But now we're ready to go, we can

1527
01:26:50.239 --> 01:26:53.640
dive right into the whole. And this is where Ai

1528
01:26:53.760 --> 01:26:58.119
tears the sermon into shreds, because Ai is like, this

1529
01:26:58.199 --> 01:27:02.399
is kinoticism. This is going right into the canosis, the

1530
01:27:02.479 --> 01:27:07.319
canotic heresy, the knoticism, going into the whole heresy about

1531
01:27:07.359 --> 01:27:10.159
this and and that's that's what we have to learn

1532
01:27:10.159 --> 01:27:12.399
to pick up. It has a quick statement you probably

1533
01:27:12.439 --> 01:27:16.960
didn't even hear it, but that that's right there. We

1534
01:27:17.159 --> 01:27:19.439
we could do a sermon on the hoppystatic union, which

1535
01:27:19.479 --> 01:27:21.920
would be cool, but you know, and Jesus is God,

1536
01:27:22.399 --> 01:27:25.479
but I think that would be neat or be good.

1537
01:27:25.800 --> 01:27:28.239
And then he but he says that Jesus needed and

1538
01:27:28.640 --> 01:27:34.439
relied on God like Peter did. Jesus is God. Okay,

1539
01:27:34.800 --> 01:27:39.479
all right, Oh, it's dividing the deity and the humanity.

1540
01:27:39.680 --> 01:27:42.079
So we focus on the humanity and then act like

1541
01:27:42.159 --> 01:27:45.239
Jesus was basically a man, just like we're just a man.

1542
01:27:45.640 --> 01:27:48.399
And then we can look and then he gives us

1543
01:27:48.439 --> 01:27:50.880
a prescriptive way to live the Christian life. And it's

1544
01:27:50.960 --> 01:27:56.760
just a fraudulent it's it's heretical. I'm oh man, Okay, well,

1545
01:27:56.880 --> 01:27:59.199
I want to go further, but we'll stop. Hopefully, now

1546
01:27:59.199 --> 01:28:01.399
you remember all of the definitions we gave. We broke

1547
01:28:01.439 --> 01:28:08.479
down kanoticism and the whole knotic theology heresy. Hopefully you've

1548
01:28:08.600 --> 01:28:10.720
been defined. I gave you a brief origin, I gave

1549
01:28:10.760 --> 01:28:14.000
you the points of it. We talked about the hypostatic union,

1550
01:28:14.600 --> 01:28:18.319
the Calcedonian definition of the definite definition of Calcedon. You

1551
01:28:18.399 --> 01:28:20.560
need to know that, the Council of Calcedon. You need

1552
01:28:20.600 --> 01:28:24.079
to know it. And that gives you a philological framework.

1553
01:28:24.319 --> 01:28:26.079
So then when we come back the next time, we

1554
01:28:26.119 --> 01:28:28.079
can take this apart. All right, I'll start right there.

1555
01:28:28.119 --> 01:28:31.479
Thanks for listening, everyone, Have a great, great, great, great night.

1556
01:28:31.880 --> 01:28:33.920
God bless