AI and John 2

0:02 Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central. Well, ladies and gentlemen, all I can say is, I'm a little disappointed today, right, I'm kind of let down. I'm kind of just frustrated. I'm just I'm not in a great mood currently, and it's probably my own fault. I let my expectations get too high, and then there was kind of a letdown. And so in my mind today I would be doing broadcasts and we would be talking about the Sermons three point zero app, which is actually sermons by Sermon Audio app. Okay, we would be talking about that and ooh, I just saw this and check this out and check this out.

0:54 But it. Didn't really happen the way I at least wanted it to happen. Now, I think we had some you know, we had a little bit of warning that it wasn't going to be this going to be what I thought it was going to be. But still I was I was hoping for a massive Maybe I was hoping for something far different than I should have even been expecting. My hope was probably more than reality should have allowed for. And that was my own fault. Still, I would challenge everyone who hears this, go to the Apple App Store the Google Play Store. Look for I guess you can type in sermons three point oh, but what you actually need to look for is sermons hang. In fact, let me look at the actual name of the app, Sermons by Sermonadio. Sermons by Sermonadio. That's the name of the app.

1:43 It was basically released yesterday. There look for some of you, there may be a lot of changes that will make you very happy, especially for Android users. Hopefully you've been using it, you've been looking around, You've been happy. I had all these other ideas and these other So today when I woke up, I started messing with the app, and I still couldn't still wouldn't let me follow anything. So that was irritating. So what I basically did is I took the entire morning to delete every broadcaster I was following, every series, I was following everything. I deleted everything and basically started over. So the only thing I'm following currently is Dallas Stilological Seminary, because I just always start with the seminaries, and so I've got one one thing I'm following. I'll probably slowly add because I'm curious what happens when you get to number thirty two, number thirty four, number thirty seven. Do you get that error message?

2:41 Does it just does it give you the impression that you're following but when you go back and go back in you realize you're not actually following it. I don't know, so we will find out at some point. I was going to just focus on that all day, but then I was like, well, what do I do today? What do I I got a broadcast about and I don't want to just sit here and broadcast about Well it doesn't have this feature. And maybe even there was a part of me thinking, well it was released yesterday, we'll get an update today. I know that's very unrealistic. So ah, yeah, it's a little it's a little disappointing, But I'm going to be hopeful that over the next three four weeks, maybe two months? Is that even? Is that being too hopeful?

3:24 Maybe I'm gonna say, within thirty days, maybe we get some updates that will prove to be very very interesting and much more. Maybe adding some I'm not saying every feature I've suggested, but adding some that I think would be very beneficial. So that's been going on. So I got to get past that frustration. I got to get past that let down. Let's I know what we will do. Let's listen to a sermon. Why did I pick this sermon? Well? I picked this sermon because, well, I have a feeling I'm going to be very Australian and let down. So why not just keep that theme going? And we'll talk about this sermon right after I say welcome everyone. It is Tuesday, February the twenty fifth, twenty twenty five. It is currently three point fifty eight pm Central time, and I'm coming to you live from the Theology Central Studio located right here in Abilene, Texas. Now, to set this up properly, let me take you back to the third school I ever attended. Okay, if I go through the schools in some kind of chronological order, I believe Grace University in Omaha, Nebraska was the first school I attended, right, Grace University, Omaha, Nebraska. The second school was Twin Cities Twin Cities Baptist Bible Institute, Papilion, Nebraska. So that school

4:56 will actually take that back. If I'm actually going in order, it would be Cisco Junior College here in Texas would be number one, Grace University number two, Twin Cities, Baptist Bible Institute would be number three, and then number four would be Family Radio School of the Bible. Harold Camping. Now some of you that name doesn't that doesn't ring a bell. That's like some ancient thing in church history. You don't know all the controversy and everything that happened with Harold Camping. Right, So when I enrolled in the school Family Radio School of the Bible with Harold Camping, I mean it was very much a I mean, I know some may argue with this, but I mean I was a student, So I think I think I have a right to be somewhat dogmatic, very reformed in its theology, right reformed in it's soteriology. Reform, I mean, very Presbyterian like Covenant theology, you know, election, all of that, all Millennialism, Oh, just a lot of the reform, Presbyterian, infant Baptism, some of the very Presbyterian concepts. We're very much there.

6:10 Right. I took Hebrew, I took Greek, through them, all the different courses I took. I mean I could go through everything. I had to do a whole thing on the Gospel of John. But there was a specific hermeneutical approach, a family radio school of the Bible, and that approach was that the Bible has different layers of meaning. Right, you have kind of the historical literal meaning, but underneath that you have this spiritual meaning. You have something that everything has a spiritual meaning, and everything ultimately points to the Gospel. So it doesn't matter where you are in scripture. You're like, Okay, yeah, that's historically that happened. Literally that happened. But bu bu.

6:56 But but wait, it pictures something. There's a spiritual picture, and you almost made everything in the Bible have a spiritual picture that ultimately pointed to well, Christ crucified. Basically, the Gospel doesn't matter where you were in scripture. You you found the Gospel, you found it, you put it there. In fact, what you ultimately were doing was reading it into it. So when you were like when I was working through the Gospel of John and I got to Jesus turns water into wine, boom, I gotta get to work, right, I got to write a paper. All right, It's not just what Jesus did a literal miracle and a historical setting, and that literal miracle had this basic literal meaning no no no, no, no no no no. Now okay, what were the what did these water pots? What do they represent?

7:45 What does the water represent? What does the wine represent? What does this represent? What does this represent? What does this represent? And then you go find cross references for all of that. I had to write paper after paper after paper from that hermeneutical approach, and it had a profound impact on me. And the reason it had such a profound impact on me is because whenever I would write these papers or listen to, you know, a lecture, or do whatever I had to do for school, I would learn, oh, that pictures this, that picture says Okay, here's the cross reference. Here's the cross reference. Here's the cross reference. Okay, great, Oh this is awesome. And then anytime I had an opportunity to teach adult Sunday school teenagers behind the pulpit, everybody like, wow, I've never seen this before, I've never heard this before. This is crazy.

8:33 How did you find this stuff? Well, you know, I do a lot of study, and I do a lot of work, Okay, and I always made it like everyone wanted to hear my preaching because like, so, what does this represent? What does this represent? It was fun, it was cool. I felt like, wow, yeah, I'm people think I'm a great teacher. And then slowly but surely I begin to call into question all of this. And one of the things that helped kind of motivate me beginning to question this hermail kN It is when well Harold Kemping lost his ever living mind told us the world was coming to an end in nineteen ninety four, and then when that didn't happen, started telling us that we had to leave our local churches because all the local churches was under the control of Satan, and if we didn't leave the church, we were taking the mark of the beast. And then he did these extensive long studies in Jeremiah and other Old Testament books where this represented this, and this represented this, and this represents the church. And it was like it was like all millennial allegorical approach on total crack. I mean, it just it went crazy and then it was controversial. Then he moved the end of the world to two thousand something, and then they put billboards everywhere and it was all over the news and then at that point I had already you know, was left the school, was done with that, and then it was just sad watching it all unfold, and he had a stroke. He kind of repented at least to some level. But I used to have all of his books, all of that, so I'm very familiar when people go

10:04 to what passage like John two, and they're going to you know, they're going to turn it into something other than what I think it is. So when I was sitting here kind of disappointed, kind of frustrated that the sermons well three point zero the sermons by Sermonaudio app didn't really kind of do what I wanted, I was like, well, let me just look here. And actually I wasn't even looking on the app. I was looking on the website and I looked at new sermons, and then I saw one that was labeled, or let me say, was entitled this. I have the title written. I want to make sure I write it or tell you it exactly correct. Who having a hard time talking that I can give you the correct title as I learn how to talk. All right, here we go. It is called the Marriage at Cana, Jesus transfer forms our vessels. I'm like oh okay, So the vessels, I guess the water pots. Because the water is put in and it's transformed to wine. Then that's somehow.

11:14 Now a picture of our vessels being transformed. And I was like you, here we go, Here we go, here we go. So we're going to review this. But before we get started, what do you think? Do you think AI can make some predictions here? So I said, Ai, I'm about to review a sermon entitled the Marriage of Cana Jesus Transforms our Vessels? And I said, hey, what do you think is going to happen? Here's what AI said, Are you ready? Based on the sermon title, the Marriage at Cana Jesus Transforms our Vessels, I predict Now this is Ai speaking, this is Ai doing the prediction. I predict that the preacher will likely interpret John two one through eleven allegorically or metaphorically, emphasizing personal transformation. Here's how I think the sermon will unfold, with potential hermeneutical, philological, and logical errors. AI's going in. AI's like, okay, thank you, I'm going to tell you everything is going to do wrong.

12:25 Okay. AI's like predicted interpretation that This is how AI predicts the interpretation is going to go in this sermon, the wedding will be seen as a symbol of the Christian life. The preacher may present the wedding feast as a metaphor for salvation, joy, or the new Covenant. The lack of wine could be framed as a picture of human insufficiency, sin, or spiritual dryness. The water to wine miracle will be seen as personal transformation. The transformation of water into wine may be interpreted as a symbol of how Jesus changes people's lives. The six stone water jars could be portrayed as representing human vessels our bodies, lives, or hearts that need to be transformed by Jesus. The phrase Jesus transforms our vessels suggest a focus on internal renewal, possibly through sanctification or personal improvement. Next, Mary's role as an example of faith and obedience. The preacher may emphasize Mary's words do whatever he tells you as a call to trust and obey. This call could lead to a moralistic application, urging listeners to be obedient so that transformation can occur.

13:51 Number four The best wine as the abundant life in Christ. The idea that Jesus provides the best wine. Last might be used to suggest that life life with Jesus is always better than life without him, or that Jesus brings increasing joy over time, and may also be tied to eschatology, such as the Great Banquet in the Kingdom of God. So that's that's what it predicts as kind of the way it's going to go. Then it predicts the hermeneutical, philological and logical errors, and it spends a lot of time giving me all the hermeneutical errors that it thinks is going to happen, all of the philological errors that's going to happen, and all the logical errors. Now, what we will do. I could read all of them, but what we will do will go straight to the sermon and see if it follows what AI predicts for its interpretation.

14:42 And if we start hearing any of the errors, or I hear any of the errors, I will look down, see what AI said, and then report to you if AI gets this all right. So what we're about to once again, this kind of goes with our host series on artificial intelligence. Can AI predict what a sermon will get right or get wrong? So far, every single time AI has done basically perfect and predicting. I don't know if it's going to get this one right, but that title seems to give it away, all right, And I feel like this is going to be me back at Family Radio School of the Bible, and I got to do this allegorical metaphorical over spiritualize the text where basically I'm going to do is of Jesus. I'm going to read something into the text and EXE Jesus pulling it from the text. But here's what makes it so frustrating.

15:34 People will claim we do exegetical studies. We do exegetical studies. They will try to tell you that they're pulling it from the text. And sometimes you can't even tell when you're actually pulling something from the text versus when you're reading it into the text. Because if you're doing is of Jesus, guess what happens almost sometimes in a kind of a you know, you're not even conscious of it. You're kind of doing it in an unconscious way. You're reading it into the text. Then you pull it out of the text and say I did axa Jesus. But you're pulling out what you put in. It can be very deceptive. So I don't know what's getting ready to happen here, but we're going to find out. What I do know is right when I hit play, you're gonna get this loud bell like ding ding ding, like a like a boxing ring or a wrestling match, ding ding ding ding. I don't know what in the world that is.

16:22 I don't know why it's there, so you may want to just lower your volume a little bit. I don't know why it's here. I don't know if that's like it's time to fight, it's time. I don't know what it is. I don't know. I don't It doesn't have like a school bell. It's definitely not like a church bell you're like calling everyone to worship. It's just like I don't know, you'll hear it. All right, are you ready? Here we go, Let's see what happens. You have to remember. What is that. It's like a whip. It's like a whip with a Let me listen to that again. What is that. You have?

17:02 It's like a whip. It's not even like a boxing I thought it was like a boxing. It's like shooting. I don't It's like it's like someone shooting is like shooting at something. What in the world has this saving supposed to me? And I don't Let's listen to that one more time. Can anybody tell me what I'm hearing here? You have to remember, that's just crazy to me. I don't know what that's supposed to be. Maybe maybe if I watched the video, I could tell. Maybe I could watch the video. I don't know. All right, let's go back to it. We'll start this now. Now he's gonna do this, and well, I hope it's loud enough. Here we go. You have to remember Genesis one opens up with in the beginning God, right, we all know that. And then God has an earthly ministry. He basically spends six days creating light, the firmament, the land and the vegetation, the sun, the moon and the stars, the land, animals, and then mankind.

17:58 On the sixth day, guess what with two genders That'd be a man and a woman. And then that was it, that was the genders. And then God already signed the executive order. We should we should know it. If you want, just hold up the Bible and say, look, God already passed the executive order. And so what he did is he he had. He shows up and he and he performs the first marriage between a man and a woman. And because we're a Bible believing church, that's who I will only marry is is one man and one woman, because that's what God said, He already said it. And that's not being mean, that's being biblical. Now, the tie in is that John One opened up with.

18:48 In aren't you glad? We got a in depth, very nuanced discussion between biological sex and gender? Right? I mean, typically biological sex refers to the physical, biological and genetic characteristics that differentiate, if I can read correctly, males and females. So when we talk about biological sex, we're referring to physical, biological and genetic characteristics that differentiate between males and females, all right, And so you would have like chromosomes, hormones, anatomy, all right. Gender is often described as social, psychological and cultural roles, behaviors, identities that society associates with biological sex, gender identity, a person's internal sense of being male, female, both, both, neither, or something else. This gets into a whole is there is there a distinction between biology, biological sex, and gender.

19:50 Think it's very there's a little bit of nuance. I know. We just like to say, wow, at the beginning, it created male and female. That subtles it. The problem is over. Okay, Well, in the beginning God created people in a garden without a sinful nature, but then they fail, and everyone after that is created is born with a sinful nature. Do you not think possibly that sinful nature impacts every area of our life? Don't we believe the fall impacts us physically? Don't we believe the fall impacts us psychologically? Doesn't it impact us mentally? Doesn't it impact every aspect of our life? I mean, it had to have a pretty good impact, since it wasn't long after the Fall that a brother was killing another brother. But I guess we're not gonna We're just gonna throw that out there. He's saw in the executive order. Oh man, this.

20:52 Look. You can stay true to what you believe the Bible teaches, but at the same time knowledge in a much more deep, reasonable, rational, even theological way. So the question is how much does the fall impact people? He said, Well, it impacts us in every single way, meaning if we're all born centers, is it possible that people could be born I don't know, and find that they don't have a desire for people of the opposite sex, they have a desire for the same sect. In other words, couldn't it not explain a whole lot of issues that we encounter? Now? What does how do we work on that? How does that fix that?

21:42 Now? Christians will say, well, if you get saved, it just fixes that. Well, if getting saved just fixes that, then you have to then logically imply that if someone gets saved, it just fixes everything and then we no longer sin. But that doesn't work. So then why does it only fix this problem but it doesn't fix that problem? Why is it that of some and get saved, it takes away same sex attraction, but for some weird reason, heterosexual still lust commit fornication. Look at porn. Okay, all right, now, I just get so frustrated. I don't I hate when we say things and such a we minimize the issue. Even from a philological perspective, if you believe in total depravity, then for crying out loud, act like it. The world was this way, the fall happens, and then everything has not been the way it's supposed to be, and that the whole point of the fall. The Fall messed up everything.

22:38 Our physical bodies get sick and die, disease, on and on, psychological issues, everything emotional, everything is off right. That's why it didn't take long for a brother decide I'm going to kill my brother. Why do we always minimize things and just like we have to talk down to people. It just makes me so mad sometimes, especially within the new conservative movement in our country, this kind of political conservativism. We just like to talk like jerks. We all like to be bullies, and I'm so sick of it. Look, let the political world talk like bullies and jerks. Can we in the church go wait? Wait, wait, like okay, yeah, the Bible speaks that there's melean female. Absolutely not in any way denying that. Now. First, is there a distinction between biological sex and gender?

23:40 Okay? Why does history and science tell us whether you agree or disagree, Let's at least explore it. And if there is some issues or times where people struggle with their biological sex, what could be leading to this? Why could it happen? I don't know. I thought Christianity we have a very good explanation for it. All everything is out of order, Everything is messed up because of the fall. But we talk we believe in depravity, and they're like, what is wrong with you? And what is wrong with them? And what is wrong with them? I don't know the same thing wrong with us. We're all messed up, but I don't know what do I know? Okay, all right, let's back this up a little bit. Hear my frustration.

24:26 A man and a woman, And because we're a Bible believing church, that's who I will only marry is one man and one woman because that's what God said. He already said it. And that's not being mean, that's being biblical. Well is it that simple? Hey? Because the Bible says it. This is all I'm going to do. What the Bible tells you to love God with all your heart, mind, body, and self. How come you're not doing it? The Bible says, love your neighbor yourself. How come you're not doing it? The Bible says, to be holyes He is holy? How come you're not doing it? The Bible says to do Well, think we're growling a black how come you're not doing it? Is it just so simple what the Bible says? Do it?

25:07 I'm a Bible believer, So we just do what the Bible says. Well, then just do everything it says problem solve. We don't need Jesus the end. Well, the Bible says, so this is what I do. Yeah, congratulations, you do that. I'm sure you've never lusted. I'm sure you never do this. I'm sure you never do this. I never Ah, We're not gonna even get to John Chapter two. Are here we go? Now the tie in is that John one opened up with in the beginning, was the word Genesis one in the beginning God. John one opens up within the beginning was the word? And then what happened in John number one we see in verses nineteen to twenty eight, John the Baptist shows up on the scene. Now look at John one twenty nine. It says, the next day John seeth Jesus coming into him. Use your fingers in count.

26:08 That's one day has passed, first day of Jesus's earthly ministry. Now look at verse number thirty five and again the next day after John stood and took his disciples and look upon him Jesus as you walk, he sayth the hold the lamb of God. There we go. That would be the second day of Jesus's earthly ministry. And now look at verse number forty three. The day following, Jesus would go forth unto Galilee and find a fillip and saith unto him. Follow me. That's the third day of Jesus's earthly ministry. And now look at John chapter two and verse number one. Watch it says, and the third day, how many days have already passed? How many days do we have here? Three? What's three plus three? Homeschoolers?

26:54 Six? You know what just happened in John two. On the sixth day, God shows up in the New Testament, and he's going to perform a marriage. He's going to be at a marriage. He's going to be at a wedding. And you know who's joining whoever's getting married here. You know who's joining them together, God, Because a biblical marriage is something that God does. He takes a man and he takes a woman, and he brings them together in a union for his glory. Day six. God showed up right in Genesis one. Okay, now this is interesting. So day one, day two, day three, Now how did he get three plus three? Okay?

27:49 Did I miss something here? Right? So he goes through the days. Hang on, so the next day and then the next day, so he counted out three. Then he says three plus three of six homeschoolers. Okay, all right, I'm confused. All right, I'm gonna see. I'm gonna ask Ai hear the sermon. I'm listening to counts days and John one and then concludes John two one is the sixth day. Am I missing something here? I might have to back this up. I'm sorry, I'm going to be labor the point. But here we go. Okay, now this is what Now, remember Ai, I'm not giving Ai the transcript at this point. Okay, I'm I'm just asking Ai the quest I'm doing this in real time, right, this is having AI as a tool, all right, So this is what AI says. The idea of counting the

29:22 days in John one to conclude that John two one occurs on the six days an interesting but problematic approach for several reasons. Let's analyze both the reasoning behind the interpretation and a potential hermeneutical flaw. The argument for the sixth day. The preacher is likely counting the reference to specific days in John one. John one to nineteen The next day, possibly day one John twenty nine. The next day, which would be day two John one thirty five, The next day day three, John fourteen three, The next day day four John twoy one, on the third day, which they interpret s three days after Day one four, making it day six. Okay, all right. The preacher may be attempting to link day six to philological themes the sixth day of creation Genesis one twenty six, when God created humanity, possibly a new a connection to Jesus bringing a new creation or renewal, the potential hermeneutical errors and logical errors, arbitrary counting method. The phrase on the third day in John two to one is unclear. Does it mean three days after the last event or something else. The Gospel of John does not seem to be structured as a day by day chronological record, but rather a philological storytelling forcing a pattern that may not exist. The claim that John two to one is the sixth day assumes that John one is presenting a consecutive timeline rather than just recounting events with transition markers. There is no textual reason in John twoy one to connect this timeline to the

30:54 day of creation. When John does have creation imagery. While John does have creation imagery John one to one echoes genusis one one. The gospel structure does not rigidly follow a seven day structure. Even if John two to one was on the sixth day, it is unclear what significance that would have for the narrative. If the sixth day is meant to symbolize the creation of humanity, how does that tie into the wedding at Cana. The text itself does not hint at a creation parallel. A more textually grounded interpretation of John two to one instead of forcing a six day interpretation, a better approach is this Jesus' first public miracle. John two eleven states that this was the first of his signs to reveal his glory. Symbolism of the wedding, the miracle points to Jesus as the true bridegroom and the ultimate provider of the New Covenant.

31:45 Connection to purification, the water jar used for Jewish purifications are turned into wine, signaling a transformation from the Old Covenant to the New. The preacher's attempt to count days to reach day six is speculative and likely reading into the text isai Jesus rather than drawing from it exegesis. Unless there is clear textual or theological connection at John itself. Such an interpretation risk adding unnecessary complexity and distracting from the actual meaning of the passage. All right, so AI is not seeing it. I'm not seeing it. I'm going to back that up and see if we can figure it out exactly how did he get the sixth And I may have missed something, so we may have to go.

32:28 We may not get very far in this, but I'm I'm at first, I'm like, well, this is awesome, right, because this is good observation. He's seeing that, it's giving these time markers. That's I love that. I just wasn't quite prepared for where he was going to do with it. Let's see if we backed up far enough. On chapter two and verse number one, watch it says, all. Right, let's back this up a little further. I'm going to go way back. Here we go. And because we're a Bible leaving church, that's who I will only marry is is one man and one woman, because that's what God said. He already said it, and that's not being mean, that's being biblical. Now the tie in is that John one opened up with in the beginning was the word Genesis one in the beginning God.

33:23 John one opens up within the beginning was the word. And then what happened in John number one we see in verses nineteen to twenty eight, John the Baptist shows up on the scene. Now look at John one twenty nine. It says the next day, John seeth Jesus coming into him. Use your fingers in count. That's one day has passed. First day of Jesus's earthly ministry. Now look at verse number thirty five and again the next day after John stood and took his disciples, and look upon him Jesus as you walk, he say it, the hold the lamb of God. There go. That would be the second day of Jesus's earthly ministry.

34:05 Please note that there's already a discrepancy. AI puts day one in John one nineteen, all right, where it says the next day. But the King James does not us next day in John one nineteen. So there are there already a discrepancy in days. I need another translation here, hang on, let me let wait. Yeah, I think that's the King James. I don't know where my other I don't know where My other translation is hang on, let me look here. Oh, we're getting all confused on this. All right, here we go, here we go, let me look here, John one nineteen. Did AI make a mistake here? Yeah, I don't know why. Why it has? Uh? Why Ai puts one nineteen is day hang on? Let me go here, Bible hub Uh. Yeah, I don't know where Ai is getting that. Okay, yeah, that's weird. That's weird. I'm going back to Ai. Ai has day one John one nineteen, possibly Day one. Yeah, John one eighteen, no man. And then verse nineteen and this is the record of John when the Jews sent priest and levites from Jerusalem to ask him who art thou? So I guess Ai is saying, well,

35:35 there's like now you start this section in verse nineteen following, and that's a separate day right there. Right, that's a separate day because then the next verse twenty nine the next day. So if twenty nine is the next day, the nineteen to twenty eight is the previous day. So Ai is saying, okay, now I'll see what Ai is doing. Then if the next day is twenty nine, well, then the previous day has to be night teen to twenty eight, So nineteen to twenty eight would be day one, twenty nine would be day two, thirty five would be day three, forty three would be day four. Now he doesn't use nineteen as day one, he says, he goes to twenty nine where it says the next day. It says that's day one. Well, if it's the next day, why would that be day one? Wouldn't the day before the next day be day one? So already things are starting to fall apart, things are starting I'm gonna back this up again.

36:34 What is happening here? Okay, hang on, Hey. John the Baptist shows up on the scene. Now look at John one twenty nine. It says the next day, John seeth Jesus coming into him. Use your fingers in count. That's one day. Okay, Well, if it says the next day, how can that be one day? Because would the previous day be the first day? So it says the next day, but he says that's the first day. Well, I don't understand how that's day one. If it's the next day, next comes after the previous, the previous then would be first. Okay, all right, let's all right, we're trying to follow.

37:16 This has passed, first day of Jesus's earthly ministry. Now look at verse number thirty five, and again the next day after John stood and took his disciples, and look upon him, Jesus, as you walk, you say it, the hold the lamb of God. There we go. That would be the second day of Jesus's earthly ministry. And now look at verse number forty. Wait, I think I understood what he just did there. Hang on, Let's back that up. Let's back that up. Okay, hang on, let's listen. John number one. We see in verses nineteen to twenty eight, John the Baptist shows up on the scene. Now look at John one twenty nine. It says the next day John seeth the Jesus coming into him. Use your fingers and count. That's one day has passed first.

38:07 Okay, So he is saying nineteen to twenty eight is one day has passed. So he is saying one day has passed, right, Okay, I think that's what he's saying. Okay, I'm trying to follow it. I'm trying to fight, you know, trying to listen, look things up, trying to find it. So it looks like he may be saying, then one twenty nine is day too, which then would make more sense. Okay, let's see how he counts this. First day of Jesus's earthly ministry. Now look at verse number thirty five, and again the next day after John stood and took his disciples and look upon him, Jesus, as you walk, you say the hold the lamb of God. There we go. That would be the second day of Jesus's earthly ministry. And now actually he's not doing that, Okay, so twenty nine then I get what he's saying is the day previous doesn't count because that's not jesus earthly ministry. Jesus earthly ministry begins in twenty nine. So twenty nine is day one of jesus earthly ministry. Thirty five is day two of jesus earthly ministry. All right, now, let's let him count this out.

39:08 And now look at verse number forty three. The day following, Jesus would go forth unto Galilee and find a fillip and saith unto him follow me. That's the third day of Jesus's earthly ministry. And now look at John chapter two and verse number one. Watch, it says, and the third day? How many days have already passed? How many days do we have here? Three? What's three plus three homeschoolers? Six? Okay, So I think I see what he's doing. Day twenty nine is day one. Day thirty five is day two, Day one forty three is day three. And then it says on the and the third day. So I guess he's reading that in three days later and three days later, So then he's getting six days. So can okay? All right?

40:03 Hang on? So can the phrase and the third day be translated three days later? It could be understood as three days later, depending on how one counts the days. However, the exact interpretation depends on Jewish reckoning of time and context. The phrase is a dative of time and is typically translated on the third day rather than three days later. Greek can sometimes express inclusive counting when where the starting day is counted as day one. All right, inclusive Jewish counting and Jewish time reckoning, part of a day counts as a whole day. Jesus resurrection being counted as occurring on the third day, though he was in the tumbe less than seventy two hours. Okay, we know about all of that. If we apply this to John John one's timeline, on the third day means two days later after the last reference, and John one forty three was day four, we'll see that it's day four. It's day four if you count verse nineteen. He didn't count nineteen. I'm so confused.

41:19 You need nineteen to get it to So if we apply this to John one's timeline, then on the third day means two days after the last reference of John forty one forty three. If John one forty three was day four, then John twoy one would be day six, which might be why the preacher claims this is the sixth day. But he didn't count it that way because he says day one of Jesus earthly ministry is twenty nine, not nineteen. So then he only gets two. Well, and I guess he gets two. Does he get two three four? I guess he gets two three four. Maybe that's what he's doing. But no, that would be day one two.

41:59 Oh man, Maybe maybe that will work. Maybe that would work. I guess that would work. I guess you would have to leave out nineteen. All right, Yeah, I guess you would have to leave out nineteen. But if it's day four, oh, now it gets all confusing. It gets all confusing. If it's sequential counting, I guess that's it would it would have to be day four to be day six using the Jewish counting, if you're using the Greek counting or sequential counting. If one interprets the phrase as referring to a full three day gap, then this could mean the three full days after John one forty three. Some scholars argued that the phrase could be paraphrase three days later based on Greek usage, but the standard translation on the third day The phrase appears similar similar in Luke twenty four seven forty six, where it refers to Jesus raising on the third day rather than three days later. How should it be translated?

42:53 All right? So all right, so I guess it's depending on how you're counting it. All right, let's let's see what he does with it. Man, that's he's making a major claim here. That's why I'm trying to figure trying to figure it out. You know what just happened in John two. On the sixth day, God shows up in the New Testament, and he's going to perform a marriage. He's going to be at a marriage. He's going to be at a wedding. And you know who's joining whoever's getting married here, You know who's joining them together, God, Because a biblical marriage is something that God does. He takes a man and he takes a woman, and he brings them together in a union for his glory. Day six. God showed up right in Genesis one day six, The son of God just showed up on earth. And guess where he's at.

43:55 He's at a marriage. He's at a marriage. And look at this onto verse number one. The third day, there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there, and both Jesus was called and his disciples to the marriage. There used to be a day in the United States of America where every pastor of every denomination preached, believed and taught that a marriage was between a man and a woman, and that a pastor would be would would be faithful to his wife, and that marriage would be strong. And if that pastor left his wife or something happened in that marriage, every pastor from every denomination in America, they wouldn't have sai well, the pastor fell. No, they would have said the pastor, the leaders, and the congregation would have all said and agreed the pastor failed, and the pastors were men enough to step down from the ministry when they realized that they failed. Does that make sense? We have lost that

45:29 in American cultured Christianity, and so popular men who are running a movement changed the Bible to make it fit their failure or their sin or whatever happened in that situation. And here's how they'll change the Bible. Well, a marriage really is the physical union of the man and the woman coming together. Now that's all I'll say on that for our audience. But I think adults get the picture. You know why that is so off because of John chapter two. John chapter two refutes that silly, amateur exposition of the Bible. Because if the physical union was the marriage, not only do you have something weird happening in John two with Jesus, the disciples and his mother there, it's pretty wicked. A marriage isn't the physical union. A marriage is when God places a man and a woman together, and it's supposed to be till death do us part.

46:42 And that's what pastors of all denominations should teach, preach, and believe that is part of a qualifying leadership. Spiritual character traits makes sense. We have to be on the same page at this church, and we can't change the Bible because, well, you like the pastor. If you like the pastor, tell them what the Bible says. If you don't like to the pastor, lie to him, stroke his ego and let him continue resting himself with the scriptures to his own destruction. Does that make sense?

47:34 By the way, I absolutely have no idea what is happening here. I don't know what this has anything to do with John Chapter two. I leties and gentlemen. I have no clue what's going on. We got this weird counting that I'm still trying to completely wrap my mind around. I think I have it figured out. It's numbers, So forgive me if I got overly confused there with the numbers. Please don't get mad at me, okay, please yelling and screaming. I've got like multiple I'm trying to listen, I'm trying to talk, I'm trying to look up, I'm trying to figure it all out. So you may be like, well, it's obvious. Well, because you're not trying to do fifty things, maybe you should be, Maybe you should be broadcasting. So just be patient because if I got anything wrong, trust me, I will come back and fix it at a later time.

48:19 But I'm trying to figure out the numbers. I don't know what just happened. I don't know how this got into what marriage is and what when. I don't even know what happened there that there's nothing to do with this text at all. Joseph took Mary to be his wife, and he knew her not till she had brought for her firstborn son. You can have a marriage without a physical union, all right. So but wasn't he betrothed to her? Or wasn't she betrothed to him? That weren't they in a betrothal period before they came together. So he's saying, so you can have a marriage even before you come together. So I think what he's trying to say is, then you could have that if you have any relationship with someone even though you've not ever been physically together. I don't know where it crosses. Where that cross, then you're married this other person. So you can be married to someone before you come to So if you can be married before you come together, then are you married before you take vows?

49:28 Or do you have to take vows? I don't understand where this is going. So, so do you take the vows or you're already married before you take the vows? And if you can be married before you take the vows, then if you have two young people, two single people in your church and they're like, well, we are already married because we did whatever, so we don't need to have to worry about taking the vows. Can then they be physically together not get in trouble in your church? Or do they have to be married or you just saying they have to take the vows, but then they don't have to come together? Right? Is this strike trying to identify where marriage takes place? Is Is that what we're trying to determine here? What has this got to do with John two? I'm not quite sure.

50:14 Look at verse number let's read verse number one again. This is something else I'd like to bring out. In the third Day, there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there, and both Jesus was called and his disciples to the marriage. This is a simple biblical point, and it's this Jesus was there. He wasn't disconnected from the people. Jesus is at a wedding, and he's enjoying fellowship with the people, and he's not locked away in his office. I'm pretty certain that the most important person in the gathering at that point, or at any point, would be Jesus Christ. Would you agree?

51:05 He's the most important person and he is mingling with and enjoying sweet fellowship with the people. We have this separation mentality that has crept into a lot of groups or movements or I don't know, denominations or circles, whatever you want to call it, where somehow the famous preacher is just too good to hang out with the people. He's the famous preacher. He's too good to hang out with the peon preachers at a meeting. He's too good to hang out with his own people. You don't see that with Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is with the people.

51:50 And if you and I can't hang out and fellowship amongst the brethren, we aren't. That doesn't make us super spiritual, That makes us soup for unhealthy. Spiritually unhealthy, we can't. We can't have healthy relationships with people unless we actually invest time with them. I don't know how you Jesus was invited to a wedding, and now, like, if you're a pastor, you can't be hanging out in your study. You got to hang out with people, because if you don't hang out with people, it's not healthy. In fact, you what in the world has that got to do with this text?

52:31 All right? All right? So I went ahead and just looked up because we're running out of time. I just went and grabbed the transcript. I gave it to Ai. AI says, this sermon is filled with hermeneutical, philological and logical errors. Many of many of these rise from is of Jesus reading in the text rather than exe Jesus. And it says, here's just some of the serious issues. So AI's like, this entire sermon is filled with errors and filled with them. This is crazy. So the arbitrary day counting and forcing creation parallel John two to one equals day six misuse of chronology chronology to create philological parallels. The preacher assumes that John two to one falls on day six by counting days in John one, then forces a connection to the sixth day of creation in Genesis one, when God creates humanity. The problem is the phrase on the third day is vague and does not necessarily mean three days after the last event. The text is not presenting a consecutive daily account of jesus ministry. Issue with the creation parallel.

53:39 The preacher tries to tries to tie Genesis one to John one, being based solely on the phrase in the beginning. But John is using creation language to point at jesus divinity, not to recreate a six day pattern. Right, Okay, So it doesn't like the counting. It doesn't like the counting, and any way, shape or form, it doesn't get into the specifics about the counting. I may ask Ai here in a minute to how is he actually making this count? Because I'm a little in fact, I'll just ask Ai right now. I mean he's got like Ai. He they Ai gives me like uh, I mean, he's probably five pages here. So can you break down exactly how the sermon does the counting to get John two one being day six? Because I am completely confused? All right, okay, all right, okay, oh good. Ai at last agrees with me.

54:56 It says the preacher's method of counting days to claim that John's two one falls on the sixth day. It's problematic and confusing because it inconsistently applies counting rules. Let's break it down carefully and show why this calculation is flawed. All right, So good, AI agrees with me. It's confusing. Maybe AI is just being nice, but I need someone to be nice here because my head was pounding before we got started, and now my head is like, my head is like rebelling against me. I think my brain right now, inside my head, my brain has gotten a chisel and a sledgehammer and it's trying to drill through the side of my head, saying let me out of here. This place is trash, and I'm like, hey, you gotta hold out a little bit longer before I collapse here and pass away. Okay, So I'm trying. I mean, I was getting so frustrated trying to follow this. All right, So here we go. Typically these sermon reviews are relatively simple, right, I can just I can just recall, well, that's a theological error, that's a hermeneutical error. I was not prepared for this counting stuff. Okay, here we go. So step by step breakdown of the preacher's counting. Starting point John one nineteen through twenty eight. John one nineteen mentions, this is the testimony of John. When priest and levites question John the Baptist, no explicit time marker, but this is assumed to be day one of the timeline. See that's where I got confused, he seems to say it's day one, but then when he gets to twenty nine, he says, this is day one, so is night if night nineteen has to be day one or everything collapses. All right,

56:30 it says John. No explicit time marker is assumed, but day one is the timeline. John one twenty nine, The next day day two. The next day John sees Jesus coming onto him. The preacher claims that this is day two, meaning John one nineteen through twenty eight happens on day one. But he says that this is day one of jesus earthly ministry. Does he not or is he referring to nineteen? I I don't, okay, I almost want to back it up, all right, John one twenty nine. The next day is day two. Well, see I'm already confused, all right, Okay, So let's let me go through this again. John one, twenty nine. Okay, no, okay, good, okay, good, all right, okay, he does this all right, So John one twenty nine.

57:31 The next day, AI says that has to be day two, but the sermon made it sound sound like, no, this is the first day of Jesus earthly ministry. But the next day would have to mean this is day two. So I that's where I'm confused. But Ai is saying. The way he's actually breaking it down is nineteen to twenty eight is day one, John nine. John one twenty nine is day two, then day John one thirty five. The next day, this is day three. The preacher counts this as day three, John one. The day following is day four. The preacher counts this as day four, John two one. On the third day, here's the critical miscalculation.

58:11 The preacher assumes on the third day means three days after day four. He adds three days to day four. Day four plus three equals six days. How is that He doesn't say four plus three, He says three plus three. So I don't even know if AI is getting this right. Okay, I'm gonna say, all right, I'm gonna ask, AI, can you analyze the transcript again? He said? He says, specifically in the sermon that John one twenty nine is day one, and then he says three plus three equals six for John two one. All right, so I'm asking, okay, all right, so here we go. All right, So AI says, you're absolutely right and to want You're absolutely right to want a clearer breakdown, especially given the preacher's claim that John one twenty nine is day one and his calculation three

59:41 plus three equals six for John. So let's analyze his method carefully, all right. Establishing day one, the preacher claims John one twenty nine is day one. He assumes this means the first counted day of jesus earthly ministry. This ignores that John one nineteen twenty eight already describes the events prior to this day. Okay, all right, So now now AI is a I obviously got confused, just like I got confused. So I'm in good company, ladies and gentlemen. Me and artificial intelligence both got confused. Okay, all right, So then counting the subsequent days, John one twenty nine day one, Jesus comes to John John one thirty five Day two again. The next day, after the disciples start following Jesus, John one forty three, the day is day three.

1:00:28 So far, this seems consistent if we assume John is reporting consecutive days. The key problem is how he counts to day six John two to one. On the third day there was a marriage. The preacher assumes this means three days after day three. He takes day three from John one forty three and adds three days, day three, day four, day five, day six. Conclusion, John two to one equals day six. He then says aloud, three plus three equals six. The first set of three days is from John one twenty nine, not from John one nineteen. He leaves out John one nineteen, which John one twenty nine says the next day. The second set of three days is from John one forty three to John two to one. Thus he creates a six day structure to match Genesis one. Where this calculation goes wrong misinterpretation on the third day. On the third day, John does not mean three days after the last event, and Jewish timekeeping on the third day typically means two days after the last mentioned event, day three or day four, day five.

1:01:30 Third day from day three This would mean John one actually falls on day five, not day six. Double counting of days. His three plus three logic is misleading because he starts at John one twenty nine, a set of John one nineteen. If he had counted from John one to nineteen, the true start of the passage's timeline, their numbers would not align with his conclusion. He ignores the literary purpose of John's gospel. The six day structure is not a key theme in John's gospel. The true focus is John revealing does Jesus revealing his glory? The artificial six day timeline distracts from the actual purpose of the passage. All right, So the whole thing is, I don't even know what we just heard, what just happened, what we didn't even we didn't even make it more than like ten minutes into the sermon. I don't even know think we made it ten minutes into the sermon. I don't know what was happening. He was making claims about marriage, making claims when when you're married, when you're not married.

1:02:40 He was making claims about when a pastor supposedly does this, and he's disqualified for ministry. None of that has anything to do with John two one, not a thing like he's just reading words and just throwing just I don't even know what just happened. I have never witnessed anything like that in my entire hermit neudical life of study. I've never like I thought this was gonna go straight the way I was taught how to allegorize a passage. This is not even allegorizing. I don't even know what this is. What was that counting? Oh man? Okay, where an, I'm just gonna have to stop. I don't what just happened, Ladies?

1:03:25 Does anybody know what just happened? I literally don't know what just happened? What I don't know what happened? I knew I was getting confused. If you go from one nineteen, you end up with four days, if you end up the other three days, but if it's three days in Jewish counting, then it doesn't work. And then you know, four days I don't understand. And then it he didn't even bother to into how you count days, didn't even get into how the Greek phrase should even be interpreted. He just makes a dogmatic assertion, and then it just starts making all these like when are you actually married?

1:04:13 What does that have to do with? Like? All right, ladies and gentlemen, this has been what happens when you listen to a sermon. My head now is literally going to explode. Wow man, wow man. Okay, I should have gotten what I should have done, and I never. I should have grabbed a notebook, and I've got a notebook right here. I got a bag of ruffles. Well, they're all gone. Have a bag here of ruffles, smokehouse barbecue chips, Ladies and gentlemen, these chips should be illegal because I ate the entire bag. This is not a little bag. This is a big bag. Ruffles, smokehouse barbecue.

1:05:09 I ate the entire bag. Okay, so but I just left it here so that I can just open the bag and who smell it? Because I can't. I tried to find some more in the story. They had them. They're gone, so I had to get some other kind of nut as good. All right, But I had a notebook here. I should have gotten a notebook. I started trying to count the days maybe I could have done. I was getting all confused, and I know, I know you may think I'm using hyperbole when it comes to math, ladies and gentlemen, I can't do math. You want to talk about philosophy, You want to talk about how to analyze literature. You want to talk about how to analyze a film. You want to break down the lyrics of a song, you want to break down story structure. I can break things down, talk about concepts, theology all day long, but when it comes to just straight math. Oh man, you could tell me three plus three equals seven hundred and twenty two and I'd probably like, I'm not even gonna argue with you. You're right. So I was like, wait, how did we get three three plus three is six?

1:06:15 Wait? Wait, it says the next day. The next day means there's a day before. Then he says, but he ignores the day before, and then he counts here one, two, three. I didn't even get. I didn't even think at the time. Wait, Jews count the Jewish timeline at the way counting time was way different than that's how we account for three days of the resurrection, all right? So wait, that means this would fall apart and the phrase and then the phrase itself he's clearly translating and three days after, but the phrase actually is and the third day. But the third day doesn't mean three, doesn't it say? And on the third day, Jesus Rose, Well, that are you meaning that's three days after? So that means it's day six?

1:07:05 Like I don't even under The whole thing is confusing, or I guess it would be three days later, three days later from where I. Don't okay understand that actually didn't make sense. I'm confusing myself now, all right, yeah, okay. Sixty seven minutes we got you know again, I've said it before. Sometimes when a program goes like this, I regret doing my sermon reviews the way I do them. I hate going into them blind because sometimes when I'm done, I feel like I've wasted all of our time. But you go into it knowing I'm going in blind. I would have never guessed that sixty seven minutes would be trying to figure out what in the world is happening with this mathematical formula to get this to be day six, and then connecting that to Genesis one, and then then just start talking about any random thing you want. I don't even know what just happened. I literally and we didn't even get to AI gave me five pages of errors in this sermon five about five pages. That's insane, and it says just the major ones. It didn't even give me all of them. So the sermon must be riddled with problems. So once again, if we go AI versus well John two, AI wins again. Once again, AI beats another sermon outright completely. Again. AI could have done

1:08:39 a better job and given me a sermon on John chapter two than an actual sermon. I'm telling you AI will win every single time. AI wins every single time. At this point, AI needs to put all pastors out of work because human beings, we cannot handle the text of scripture correctly. We can't. I mean, I was getting confused, and I'm the one trying to review it. AI could have reviewed it better than well. Actually, to be fair, AI got confused as well. Actually, to be fair, this may be a case where we see AI's error because AI got confused in counting it because AI had already counted it. So when I asked AI to look at how he counted it, AI was relying on the way it had already calculated the numbers, which started with John one nineteen as being This is what it's called the technical term is a hallucination. This is where AI is called an artificial intelligence hallucination. That's the technical term. It hallucinates thinking that it's giving you the right information when it actually isn't. And AI what it did is it it's like, no, here's the way you break this down, and it imposed the way it should be broken down if you're going to count, because John one nineteen has to be day one, and it imposed that on the pastor's message. So I had to stop and go no, no, no, no, go re review the transcript again, and then it realized, no, that's not what the pastor is doing. The pastor is not counting John one nineteen because AI assumes that that what you would have to count John one nineteen. But

1:10:12 the way the way it's in the transcript confused me because the first time I thought he was ignoring John one nineteen, but then the second time I thought he was counting John one nineteen. But then the third I mean, yeah, so AI got just to Maybe it was maybe it's not that AI got confused or I got confused. Maybe the way it was preached was confusing, or is that you maybe no, okay, all right, we'll stop right there. I apologize. I thanks for listening. God bless