2025: AI and the Church Pt 2
We continue our discussion about the AI and the future of the church
We continue our discussion about the AI and the future of the church
0:00 All right, First Chronicles twelve thirty two. This is the key verse for last Hour. We're going to at least go back read it one more time. I'm not going to go back and teach everything about it. We looked at its context, but we'll get the basic idea. First Chronicles twelve thirty two, and of the children of Issachar, which were men that had what number one, understanding of the times? Number two to know what Israel ought to do. These were men who understood the times and knew what Israel ought to do. And we are referring to this. We are talking about this and the context of artificial intelligence, its rise, and our current and our present time, and what it means for the church moving forward. All right, whether we like it or not, AI is not a trend.
0:53 It's here to stay. It's not going away, and it's going to have a it's already having a profile impact, but it's going to have a profound impact on Christianity in the church in the future. There will be the older generation that will push back, be fearful of it, will refuse to use it, whatever the case may be. But they're going to be gone, all right. And once they're gone, the next generation is coming forward, and I believe within probably ten years, I don't think we're going to even recognize things. As far as how AI has impacted Christianity, I have made my thesis statement is whether we want to admit it or not, and the church may not want to admit it. AIS. Now listen, as far as churches who are non sacramental, right, everybody understand that a sacrament is a visible means of grace. If you're a sacramental church, you have to come to church to receive what the sacraments. You need those sacraments spiritually speaking, So then the church will always be relevant because AI cannot do that. Everybody got that. If you believe the church is more about community and holding hands and singing Kumbai yah and the social feature, then the church will always be relevant because the church can get together and do all of the community community stuff and everybody will love it and be happy. Right, But as far as the preaching and teaching of God's Word in depth exegetical teaching that is accurate, that is still logically sound, there's
2:24 some depth to it, AI makes the church absolutely irrelevant. That is the point. So it all depends on your view of the church and how this is going to play itself out right. So in the first hour we looked at so much I can't even believe how much stuff we covered in one hour. We covered a lot. We went through first Chronicles twelve thirty two. We broke that completely down its historical context. We did all of that, and then we just started looking at AI and how the Sons of Visa car kind of fit in with AI, and how it raises some questions. We asked all kinds of questions. Then we took a step back and we looked at how God gave illumination in the past before the completion of Scripture. Then we came all the way up to the completion of Scripture. We saw how things broke into two streams, the church versus the individual. The Bible kind of gets caught in the middle, and then we added into Bible. So if you want to look at some of the main points we covered at the end of the first hour, we looked at how God provided illumination and discernment in the past all right before the completion of Scripture. God's guidance was given directly through profits, apostles, visions, and miracles, these were unique circumstances distinct from today's post scripture reality. We looked at biblical examples of that. Then we looked at the completion of scripture as the final authority.
3:42 We looked at that, we looked at the historical shift. We broke that down. So now we come to number three. Why we must focus on interpretation not illumination. Since the completion of scripture, the focus must be on faithful interpretation rather than expecting supernatural illumination or guidance. Now, most Christians disagree with this. They still believe, Oh, God gave me this, or God showed me this, or God helped me understand this, or God gave me the sermon. That's just look if if you go into that, it's subjective, it's crazy. And what do we know. Isn't it weird that God is supposedly helping this person understand scripture. God is supposedly helping this person understand scripture, and they don't. What agree? Someone's lying And I'm gonna tell you both of them are lying.
4:36 God is not guiding or helping either one of the individuals. What are we left to do? Take the Bible that's in a written form and figure it out utilizing the basic rules of interpretation called hermeneutics. Right, that's what we must do. Everyone understands. I cannot stress that enough. Everybody got that. We must focus on that when we talk about interpretation versus illumination. Interpretation is the responsible study of scripture, considering context, history and language. As Protestants, every Christian must be what if we're truly honest with our Protestant belief system.
5:18 Every Christian must be an expert in that if we really hold to our Protestant tradition, we don't really hold to that right, but it should be why Because as Protestants, what do we believe that the individual has the power, the right, and the authority to only interpret the Bible, but to do what to tell the pastor rather is right or wrong. Now, if you're going to have that right, and you're going to have that authority, then what must come with that the expertise in order to do that. Now, I know that that's never been really carried out, but that's the case. Now. Illumination, the way most people teach it implies that the believers receive divine insight into the meaning of the text. However, history shows this idea has led to contradictory interpretations and church splits. There's no question about that. We are not getting illumination. Everybody got it.
6:17 If you want illumination, read the Bible, and then the Bible illuminates you. God is not giving you illumination. Right, everybody understands there is no illumination coming from there. Right. However, here we go, are we right? This is what we so we've gone from where we are today. So where we are today and a non Catholic church is that this is supposedly the authority right there for those listening online, I'm holding up my Bible. The Bible is the authority. It's the sole authority. And that the primary purpose of the church is to equip saints and the study interpretation of scripture. And that you, as an individual, has the responsibility to so master this that you can discern with what being preaches rather true or false. That's a lot of responsibility and a lot of people. However, something is changing, something is changing dramatically. All right. There is an article and I can't access the article here right now because I forgot we don't have internet here. I have the link here, and I was going to click on the link and open it up, and I can't. But so I'm just gonna have to try to explain it to you.
7:32 The name of the article is the Intersection of AI and Spirituality. This article came out just a couple of days ago, all right, and here's a little bit about it. The article at the Intersection of AI and Spirituality discusses how religious leaders are already integrating artificial intelligence into their pices, including are you ready for this? Sermon prep and sermon delivery. This development directly relates to our discussion about the future role of pastors an error where AI can generate sermons and provide theological insights. In fact, AI has the ability and once it learns my voice, it can construct a sermon based off my preaching style and deliver it sounding exactly like me, making me obsolete. That's awesome. Okay, So here's some of the key connections AI generated sermons. The article mentions an individual who used an AI chatbot trained on his previous sermons to create a new sermon delivered
9:06 in his voice. And he literally had the service and d AI preached a sermon. I think he sat there. Isn't that crazy? This example illustrates how AI can produce sermons that closely mimic a pastor's style and content, aligning with r and this aligns with the discussion of the potential for AI to generate sermons accessible to both pastors and congregants. So really, a pastor, he can just tell them AI, you already know how I preach. You already know what I believe. I need a sermon on this today.
9:49 We're in Isaiah forty in the past, and it could literally produce a sermon on the next part of Isaiah forty in my style, in my voice, like, do you not understand the impact of that? Now? This? Then? So AIS you already see? Then we're we're ventured into a brave new world, right, I mean I can't even process where we are right now. So then this brings up the issue of accessibility of theological insight. With AI tools capable of conducting philological research and assisting in sermon writing, both pastors and those in the congregat congregation can access the same level of scriptural analysis and interpretation within minutes.
10:45 If you all using chat GPT right right now, I could say chat GPT all right. First Chronicles twelve thirty two. All right, ask AI this right, give me a analysis, summary, out line, interpretation, and exegetical breakdown of first chronicles twelve thirty two. Sit down and guess what. You would have all of it within literally through two minutes maybe a minute, and it would be better than anything I could produce. That's yeah, well they're they're there. That's where we're going.
11:29 Now that's going to be the question. But I want to just make sure you understand that. All right, So, uh, this making it available to everyone well supports the idea that congregants might independently explore scriptural interpretations you using AI, and may completely destroy the traditional sermon dynamics. Give us something you well, if it knows me, it could Yeah, if you if you gave them access to all of my sermons, which you could upload, like a number of them, it could probably produce a sermon in my style. Yeah, because you can. You can give a link to AI and say, study the style of this individual right to say my sermon's not the podcast, and you could give it like seven, eight, ten, and then you can say, now produce a sermon on this scripture and that style, and it probably would. You wouldn't even need me. That's crazy.
12:36 Does everyone understand that what we're looking at here? Okay? All right? As AI takes on tests like sermon writing and theological research, the role of pastors may shift. Are you ready even a Now this is where they're already saying it's headed. This is an analysis of the article, right, and some of it's from the article. Okay, so a little bit of both. What's going to happen is they're seeing a shift is going to take place. Pastors are no longer going to be needed for preaching and teaching. Pastors are going to be there to kind of facilitate community counsel if they, if they, if anybody at wants counsel. People only want counsel from pastors until pastors disagree with them. Right, But like the past Basically, what the article is saying is a pastor is going to find a new job because you really don't need me. As soon as I tell you what the text is, you can you can already be looking it up on your phone and already have in your hand better than anything I can preach to you other than my my personality, but everything else you get, in fact, you would get all the good without my bad personality, you'd be even better off. Yeah. None. Right, So this integration of AI into religious practices raises question is about authenticity, the nature of spiritual guidance, the potential loss of personal connection and worship. These concerns echo concerns
14:09 about the implications of AI generated sermons and the importance of maintaining the human element and spiritual leadership. All right, So the bottom line is it's started, it's already begun, and what right now? A lot of people just like to play with it, right, just like have a little bit of fun. There were some pastors going about a year ago, maybe two years ago, maybe even three years ago, they would have AI put together the entire worship service, and then they would do they would say, here's the prayer. AI wants us to open with, here's this hymns. AI wants us to sing, here's the closing prayer. And so they would do like a service like that, and everybody's like, oh, that's cute. Nobody realizes there's nothing cute about this. This is changing everything. So it's got to go from cute till we got to understand the profound impact on this, all right. Eight, So here we are now we are in the AI era. Let's just go ahead and say we are in the AI era, So how do we move forward? Right? How do we move the It's happened, ladies and genmen, we're here. So you see how we got here? Right? We start off with God revealing divine revelation to people in very specific ways. Right then the church, really everything kind of splits into two streams. You have the church maintaining apostolic succession and authority, and then it becomes really an issue about the individual. Scripture gets kind of somewhere lost in between. And now we have a
15:39 third stream, which is how is AI going to fit into this model? Now you can already can you already see where it's going to go? If I mean again, you need to be like the children of Essacar, right, the sons of esta Car. You need to be understand the times and know what to do. Can you see now how AI is going to impact these two streams? Do you not see the immediate result? Does anybody want to say what's going to happen? You already have this individual, individualistic mindset versus the authority of the church. Right, is that are not already clearly present can you imagine now how AI impacts that I've already said. I can take a sermon. I can be listening to a sermon and within seconds know with what the preacher is saying is true or false literally and set forget a Google search.
16:37 I can find out in seconds everything the pastor is saying is right or wrong. Just like that, thank you. AI will become the authority. There we go, not just hey, I will become the authority. That's that's literally where we because I'm telling you right now, I can go to an audio right now, you can pick any sermon. I can take the transcript, upload it to AI and simply ask it what are the factual errors, logical errors, historical errors, textual errors, and it will give me pages of all depending on how many errors in this sermon. It will break it down logical ones, factual, linguistic, history, textual, and it will it will just rip it into shreds and seconds. Well, then who becomes the authority the pastor authority that pastors don't realize it? You can be literally fact checked in real time. Now before I had to go home and fact check the pastor, right, I mean, there's been multiple times where pastor has says stuff, and I had to go home. Try to go look it up right now?
17:49 With AI, literally you don't. You don't have to go to a Google search and try to go which website. AI goes and searches the entire internet and gives you everything in seconds. The pastor's authority is done, ladies and gentlemen. The pastor is no longer the authority to anyone who believes the past I've been saying it for what twenty years, that the pastor has no authority the path go just take. We just need to have a funeral. Pastoral authority bury it. It's dead. AI is the authority. Young people will know it. Older people won't catch on to that yet, but older people, and it's the and I hate to say it, it's the older generation who rejected pastoral authority. The older generation fought and yelled and complained and argued during sermons with pastors.
18:38 There was no point. Pastors already lost their authority. So don't get mad now that AI just went ahead and killed it, all right. The older generation would argue and argue and argue and argue and argue and argue. AI just says, let me just let me just finish it off. AI is like, I'll put them down for good. You have to see that. Okay, so you're ready, Let's just kind of really build this now. I think you're getting an idea of where this is going. All right, are you ready? So let's ask this what is AI? Give me your answer? What is AI? Okay, I'll go. I'll just gott to give you a more technical one, all right.
19:24 AI are known as artificial intelligence, refers to computer systems that can perform task right requiring human intelligence, such as problem solving, language processing, decision making. AI is used in tools like Bible apps, chatbots, search engines, and personalized study recommendations. So basically, it's a computer system that can basically do what human intelligence can do. It just does it as artificial intelligence. So whatever human intelligence can perform, AI can perform. I will say, AI can do it faster, quicker, better, which is awesome. There's no forgetting. That's one of the most amazing things with my chat GPT, Like I don't even know how long the thread is now from our discussion, my discussion ongoing discussion between about Isaiah forty through fifty five, I can step into that chat right now because I can pull it up. Well, I can't connect to the internet.
20:29 I don't have to go reminded of anything. It knows everything we have discussed about Isaiah forty through fifty five. It remembers anything. I can just pick up the conversation. Like if I was talking to you, i'd have to remind you what we've been talking about. I don't have to remind I can just start the conversation right now, and it will. And we started the conversation with me and AI on Isaiah forty through fifty five, almost six months ago. It remembers everything. In fact, it will you even bring things up in other conversations about my discussion Isaiah forty through fifty five. That's perfect intelligence, right amen?
21:15 All right, So so here are so that's kind of what AI is. Let me give you, basically quickly, about ten ways most of you have encountered and you've used AI and you didn't even realize it, right, I'll give you about ten different ways, all right. Anything you use that gives you some kind of personal recommendation, right, if you use Netflix and it suggests a show that you may like that's based on analyzing your watch history, Okay, if you're using Spotify or YouTube and a recommend man's an album or a song or a video tailored to your preference because AI has analyzed and starting to know your preference. Right. AI's well algorithms analyze past behavior to predict and suggest content. AI watch in any and many websites you go to. It's watching your behavior, and it's going to send things to you that it knows that most likely you're going to be interested in. That's AI.
22:18 And you didn't even know you were using it. When people say I'm never going to use AI, you're already using it. If you're on the Internet, you're using it. If you have Netflix, you're using it. In music streaming service, you're using it. If you use YouTube, you're using it. Oh a long time, right, a long time. So people have already been using it, right, And why do people not notice it? Because it feels like just a smart feature rather than AI working behind the scenes. You're like, oh, this is cool. It's AI working behind the scenes. It's getting to know you. Now. Some people love that, some people hate that. I loathe They say I love AI, but I hate A when it comes to music streaming services.
23:02 So That's why I have multiple music streaming services right because I don't. I don't want AI to give me what it thinks I want because I want to because then you miss out on things like you can be on some start. I'm like, wait, how did I miss that album? Because AI was just feeding me other albums. But I don't give me what. I I know what I want. I don't need you to tell me. When it comes to music, then I get ticked off, right, I don't need so I like anything like thumbs up, thumbs down likes. I won't do any I won't touch it because I don't want AI to figure out anything because I basically like, if I can talk to AI, I want to know every album in every genre that is released. I want to see everything. Don't limit it.
23:46 People with limited musical likes have mental problems. Okay, you should like everything, right, that's don't do that to me. So that's where I don't like AI right now. When it comes to movies and television, that's fine. I don't care if I live it limits there. I can handle that, just not with music. So but that's already my involvement right there. Everyone's already dealt with that correct, all right? For example, how about social media feeds and ads? If you use Facebook, if you use Instagram, if you use TikTok, it shows post and ads based on your engagement patterns. If you look at this kind of post, guess what it's going to give you more of those kinds of post. That's what it does, right, It will give you ads tailored to your recent searches or clicks because it's watching what you do, right, It's watching what you do, and so like, oh, they looked at that, Oh, here's an ad for this, because it's Oh, it's crazy. That's I mean, it's already happening. Machine learning algorithms determine what content to show you based on your activity and preferences. Why do people not notice? They just think it's part of the app design. I don't really know that that's AI working in the background. It's already been there and like you, Stephen said, this stuff has been around forever. Another example, anyone ever you see E don't come on right Alexa, Google, Google Assistant. I can game a number of these whenever you ask any of these things to answer questions and perform tasks. Smart homes, whether it controls lights or thermostats,
25:19 or sends out reminders. All of that is AI, all right. AI's natural language processing and machine learning enable virtual assistants to understand commands and improve over time. They just kind of see this as a helpful thing. I don't see that's AI. You're already using it. It's so weird. Like if I'll talk about AI, some people will be like, I just don't know about that. I'm like, what, You've been using it for ten years? What do you mean now you don't know about it? Like I don't. It's the natural progression. Oh, absolutely, yeah, yeah, you don't even know what's going on behind the scenes. Right. Other things, for example, email spam filters and smart replies, Gmail or Outlook filter spam out of your email. Guess what that's AI.
26:16 Something's got to determine that it's what spam right. Or it may suggest a quick reply to an email, Guess what's doing that's AI. Auto generated subject lines or predictive text suggestions, and sometimes you'll start typing and they'll give you what's next. That's AI. People use this stuff all the time. AI scans content, identifies patterns in phishing attempts, suggests context based responses because people don't think about this stuff. But it's AI, all right, I got anybody ever use GPS, okay, Google Maps, ways providing real time route optimization and traffic updates.
27:03 Ride share apps like uber lift estimates a rival time and suggests faster routes. Door Dash I use. I use door Dash this morning for breakfast. Boarded it and there showing me where who picked it up, where they're going. Okay, they're approaching your house. Now that's all AI. Right, So what do we want to And I can go on and on. I got I got lists and list of things. Here's what I want you to know, whether you know it or not, AI is being used all the time. Right, So now this brings us to AI and where the church?
27:44 The church? So how does AI show up for us? Well, here's what we're gonna do a little bit of work on here. Right. I want you to see AI now as a philological at least I want to call it a resource. I almost want to call it AI as your theological authority. I think that's kind of what's going to become. But let's look at some things AI can do. You're ready. It can access and process information quickly, AI can access millions of articles, commentaries, philological papers, and translations in seconds. AI can access millions of theological articles, millions of commentaries, millions of theological papers, and millions of translations.
28:43 And there's not millions of translations, but any translation out there. And they can do all of that in mere seconds. By the time it takes me to go find one commentary, open it up and find the relevant page, AI has already looked at every available commentary in existence that it has access to. That's crazy comprehensive searches. AI can provide exhaustive cross referencing. If I need cross referencing. AI can do cross referencing better than I ever could write historical background seconds, linguistic analysis seconds and at no page has to be flipped. I don't have to look at any book.
29:27 It does it all for me. And guess what not only will it do it all for me, guess what else it will do. Put it in a very organized structure. I don't have to go copy something down. Nothing that's right there all right. A pastor may spend hours and researching multiple sources. AI can summarize all of that information two or three seconds. I can spend hours just trying to find go through that one commentary, figure out work it here, try to work out the idea. AI can do it all for me in seconds. And guess what it's gonna do it better. It's gonna do it better a right it can Guess what AI can also do.
30:12 It can analyze original languages accurately, Greek and Hebrew parsing. AI can break down verb forms, syntax, grammar instantly, even for those without any formal language training. I don't need formal language training. It can break it down perfectly. And you know how many sermons where I hear over and over things said about the Greek and Hebrew that are just complete fraudulent lies. How many times you, if you've listened to my sermon reviews, how many times I'll be like, let's look that up. And I'll be like, that's not in the Greek, that's not in the Hebrew, that's nowhere to be found. It's a sermon. In many cases, guess what I'm using to verify it? In any cases, I'm using AI. Sometimes I'm using an intilinear to look it up.
31:03 But if I want to go quicker for the sermon review, I just asked AI, and AI could be like, that's completely fraugil, and I don't know where that comes from. This is not true word studies. Well, I've taught everyone here how to do a word study right. AI can provide nuanced meaning of words, including how they're used to cross different biblical contexts in seconds. AI can quickly show how the word agape is used across scripture and compare its usage to other Greek text within seconds. Remember back in the old days, if anyone ever spent serious time doing Bible study with the strongs concordance, it took forever, literally forever. Then finally we started getting the new tools, but in some cases it was still easier just to use the strongs concordance. Finally and that became easier and easier.
31:59 But now with now, with AI, I don't even if I can do it. I just tell it what I want and it'll give me exactly what I want within seconds. Provide historical and cultural context, comprehensive background. AI can pull from archaeological findings, historical records, and scholarly interpretations to provide context for a passage and do it within seconds. You know how hard it is to find context for a passage. I gotta go find what a commentary, and then I gotta trust that the commentary is giving me the correct background. And how many times I've preached what's in a commentary and come to find out that that background information is completely fraudulent. AI can go verify and check a million commentaries, and it's comparing it with what other scholarly information. So it can be like, well, we got a conflict here.
32:55 I would not find the conflict until what who knows when? May not ever. Timeline and events. AI can create a historical timeline of biblical events and show how they fit in within broader history. I can like, Okay, what's the timeline here? How does it fit in with what was going on elsewhere? And it can show me the two in five seconds. I can't do that, Hey, I, but I'm saying I couldn't. All right, a set of spending hours piecing together Roman history to understand Paul's letters, AI can generate a concise overview of the Roman world in Paul's time. They can just do it instantaneously. It can compare theological perspectives, multi denominational insights. AI can present interpretations from Reformed, Armenian, Catholic Orthodox, and give me all the interpretations and seconds and seconds. I can say, okay, how do all the different I can even ask it this, how has this passage been understood throughout Church history? And it will take me through every period of church history and tell me how it was understood. I would not be able to pull that off. All of this it can do more and better than I could ever do. So.
34:20 AI can summarize key theological disputes Arianism versus niceeing a Christianity and show how they developed over time. I can say, hey, what's the historical debate? What happened? It can show me this side, this side, here's the development, here's the development. It can break it all down. But guess what it does. It can do this for me. There you go. It can do it for you. Where you're sitting in the pew, I cannot even be done with my introduction, and you could already have it all the study are. You can just get up and walk out. You can just be like, okay, we're done, thanks. You can just be walking out. Everybody looking at their phones. I don't know why we come here for you. You're trash AI is better, and you know what, I would agree with you. Hey, yeah, I mean right, you can probably find my mistakes within seconds.
35:21 AI can generate a comparative analysis of Calvinists and wesley An interpretation of predestination and literally seconds that's insane. It can also provide a comprehensive and exegetical breakdown. It can give you a verse by verse analysis. AI can generate a detailed breakdown of a passage, including structure, genre, theme, and the flow of the argument and seconds. It can also identify the patterns such as different structures and the way it's put together. It's language, it's a literary style. It can give me all of that. It can show me parallelism, it can show me, uh why can just show me any anything when it comes to literary style and language. It can show me, Oh, it's using this, it's using this, it's utilizing this, it's using this. I may not even see it because even if I even if I've studied all and we've talked about some of the things that talks about this, uh inclusio, is there some of the things we've talked about. It lists all of those things. I have to remember all of those different literary styles and form. I may not be thinking about it at the time. I'm looking at scripture, right, I got to be thinking, wait a minute, what literary style is that? Okay? Is that? This is that? That is that? This is that? That? Okay? It it never forgets it. So it can look at a text and go oh oh, oh look right here. Parallelism, Oh look look, look, look,
36:52 look look right here, compare and contrast. Oh look look look, look look look right here. Oh there's there's Hebrew poetry. Here's this, here's it. I may not even notice it because it never forgets it. That isn't that crazy? AI can create a verse by verse exegesis of Romans eight explaining all the theological arguments, it's rhetorical devices, and its key doctrinal points within about ten seconds. You know how long it would take me to do that for Romans eight months for every verse, breaking that all down, doing all of that, maybe even more, maybe maybe a half a year if I'm really going to do a good job on it. That's why typically when you do, you're gonna just for that for that week, You're just gonna be focusing on the first two or three verses. It can do the whole chapter in no seconds. It can condense.
38:02 It can give us condensed summaries. AI can distill long and complex pzillological treaties and to clear concise points for easier understanding. I can take some deep philological treatise that's been written in the past, hand it to AI. It may take a minute, and then it will give me a concise breakdown of everything it taught and I don't even have to read it all. Now that's awesome. If we're studying something and I'm like, oh, wait, Calvin had something to say about that. Now I can sit there and try to go read everything Calvin had and I could then try to find the key points and try to break them down just AI, and Ai'll be like boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom, there you go within seconds, and I can just cut and paste it and fuk there I go. That's crazy. AI can can simplify doctrinal doctrines like hypostatic you or justification by faith into more understandable terms. AI can summarize Augustine City of God and the bullet points for a sermon outline.
39:12 I can say, hey, today, We're going to look at Augustine's City of God, right one of the most influential books in church history. I can say, give me the history of it, boo, give me this boom, break it down, and then I can have an entire sermon on Augustine's City of God right there, ready to go? Do you see how crazy that is? All right? AI can create outlines for sermons based on specific themes, text or theological topics. AI can provide relevant antidotes, historical events, and analogies to illustrate key points in a sermon. If I need an illustration, I just say ask AI for an illustration, and it'll give me the write its own illustration. Now, pastors have been using books. Many pastors and their offices have illustration books where it gives you illustrations on different passages of scripture.
40:05 So pastors have already been doing that forever. This just I don't need a book to go try to find the right AI will be like, well, this is what you're preaching. This is the illustration you need. I don't have to try to. Sometimes pastors will give an illustration like how does that fit the sermon? I don't think that really fits AI would be like, here, illustration is trash. I mean, I won't say it that bluntly, but I had to review a sermon the other day because I was confused about how the illustration fit with the sermon. In AI's conclusion was the illustration had nothing to do with the sermon. It was irrelevant, waste of your time. And I'm like, well, thank you very much. I'm glad that wasn't my sermon. Okay, right, well we'll try to get to that. Right now, I'm trying to go to all the things that can do. AI can generate are you ready for this? Three different sermon outlines on God's faithfulness based on two Timothy two thirteen, each tailored to an audience for youth, adult, or a small group. I can say, hey, I need three sermon outlines for three different groups. Go within seconds. Book. That's that. Look what do we even here for ladies and gentlemen? All right?
41:23 It can It can break down all the kings of Israel and Judah and chronological order with all the key events. It can detect patterns across the entire Bible. A I can identify where biblical text references echo other parts of scripture. Or how Revelation references Old Testament prophecies. So I can just say, hey, the Book of Revelation, show me every place that's referencing in Old Testament prophecy. Go within ten seconds, I have it all, don't need to do anything else, and then that's a whole sermon right there. If I wanted it, it can show me possible typological connections. It can say well, in church history this is viewed as a type. Here's the reasons why. And then if I don't like it, I can push back and say, AI, well what would be the arguments against it being a type?
42:09 And it will give me all the arguments for me. I can do what The more you get to use it, the more you know how best to work with it and to get even more from it. It can compare multiple commentaries. AI can quickly scan who knows how many commentaries, schullary papers, millions, and it can synthesize the key points of everything it analyzes, so I can sell it to analyze oh, for example, the other day, because when I was preparing for this, I was just trying to see the different things that it could do. I'm like, h chapter summary method, Okay, I know that chapter summary method. So I say, give me a chapter summary method on First Timothy chapter two. Give me an entire chapter summary method of First Timothy chapter two using the actual Bible study method of the chapter summary method. And it gave it to me in five seconds. They used to take me who knows how many hours to do it. It can.
43:06 It can give me an entire chapter summary method. It'll just show you this group will say this. This group. They'll just tell you that, hey, there's disagreement, and then you can know what to do. Yeah, it can. Uh Ai can calculate the frequency of themes, words usage, or character appearances across the Bible. How many times does this word used? How many times is this this? It can give all that within seconds. It can give me a tailor. Uh Ai can create a personalized Bible study plan based on your individual theological questions, spiritual goals, or schedule. I can just tell to give me a Bible reading plan.
43:47 It can build one for me based on what I want. AI can adjust recommendations based on prior study habits or areas of interest. AI can generate a three month study plan on the doctrine of the tree fall in a three month study plant the doctrine of the Trinity. It can just break it down. I can just come in and say I need a series on justification. I don't want it six weeks long. It will give me the entire six week study on justification within about a minute. That, like, can we wrap our minds around what's happening here? I've got literally, I've got pages of all the things it can do in relation to theology and doctrine. I don't I know. So basically AI outperforms pastors and Christians and speed, comprehensiveness, personalization.
44:48 When it comes to Bible study, it can outperform Christians and pastors and feel theology, exegesis, sermon prep. It can basically it can outperform us in every area. Uh imaginable. There's nothing we can there's nothing we can do. There's nothing we can do. So after considering all of this, I was like, Okay, so where does this leave us? Because we're trying to understand the times, and like, where does this leave us? So I did ask Ai a question. I said, Hey, considering how many sermons are filled with exegetical errors, taking scripture out of context, misapplying scripture, and only teaching THEO and only teach theology. And it can only teach theology that it agrees with, like you know as a pastor. So sermons are filled with all of their errors because they typically they are, but they can only teach from a specific theological standpoint. Right, you can't violate your team or you'll get in trouble. Right, wouldn't AI be better in all of these areas? So this is what AI said. It says, you raise a strong point, especially considering how often sermons suffer from exegetical errors, philological bias, and poor interpretation. So AI acknowledges are you ready for that?
46:11 How often? This is what AI says. Sermons often suffer from exegetical errors, philological bias, and poor interpretation. So even AI acknowledges, yeah, because anytime I give it to do So. So here's here's what IT says. Number One common problems and sermons today. This is AI examining sermons across the board. What it thinks about sermons? You ready? Number One exegetical errors misinterpreting the original meaning of text, ignoring context, historical background, or genre. The sermons commonly do this. Are you ready? What do the sermons commonly do misinterpret the original meaning, ignore the context, ignore the historical background, and ignore the genre. Well, if sermons commonly do that. But I just want to make sure everyone sees where the reason AI exists and why this is becoming a problem is because what the church fail to do in the past. People go to churches where this stuff happened and they don't stink and care.
47:17 And if they stink and care, those problems would have stopped. Pastors can get up there and say whatever trash they want to say. As long as it sounds spiritual and it makes you feel Jesus, then you're all good to go. Because people go to church for a feeling, not for truth. Well, guess what if you want your little feeling, go confine your little feeling. But then, to me, there's no point in having church. AI even knows the sermons are filled with these errors. And that's not me. That's not about me saying I'm more spiritual. That's not about me saying my theology is better than your theology. We're talking about factual errors, exegetical errors. This is it's not about a difference in opinion. You can't go to Isaiah forty three and say God's going to do a new thing in twenty twenty five Isaiah forty three, and not about God doing a new thing in twenty twenty five. It was about God doing a new thing when he delivered those people from Babylonian captivity. That's not a matter of an opinion.
48:18 That's a fact. But people will say, Oh, there's a beautiful sermon, pastor, I feel so encouraged for the new year. Just stop talking. That's why I would rather hang out with AI. Hey, I won't say something that ridiculous. Hey, I knows how foolish that is. Other problems in sermons using proof texting, pulling verses out of context to support a point. Oh I need a point I need to make. Oh, let's use this one. But what has that got to do with what are you doing? They're not connected? Do you know? I'm not a cross reference? Right? So those are ectogenical errors that happen in sermons. How about philological bias interpreting scripture exclusively through one theological lens, the reform lens, the pentecostal len, the dispensational the covenant, and ignoring other valid perspectives. Sermons do that all the time. We know what happens if I'm here teaching and I deviate from what everyone expects. Boom, there's problems. You do not you color within the lines. We don't want to study, We don't want to be challenged. We just want to be feel comfortable. Just give me a little bottle of milk and make me feel good, write me up in a little blinky and send me home going Jesus. Okay, well great.
49:42 AI doesn't care about that. AI doesn't care if it offends me. AI doesn't care if it disagrees with me. I don't want it to give me what I want. I want to find truth, and the church is the worst place to go to find truth. I know that's gonna get me in trouble. Avoid other things sermons do. They avoid challenging texts that don't fit their framework. Hey, this doesn't fit. Let's just stay over here. If you are not a Calvinist, you avoid those passages that seem to teach Calvinism, or you go over it really quick. If you're a Calvinist, you're going to avoid. That's just a game. The churches and everyone in the pew is happy with it, because if we get to those challenging texts.
50:31 What happens questions upon questions, and then people get defensive, and then fights start and people get mad because people can't handle a little bit of uncomfortableness. That is all of this is the problem. Here we go, a lack of doctrinal precision. Are you ready? Most churches, this is AI, will teach theology. They will not do theology. Yes, I guess what? What have I been saying forever? The worst mistake I ever made from a pastoral not from a sin perspective, but from a pastoral standpoint. The minute I stood behind this pulpit and told everyone we were no longer going to be a church where I teach theology.
51:20 We're going to be a church where we do theology. That was the beginning of the end. I thought people would embrace it. I was an idiot. AI is like, no, churches don't do theology, you stupid person. Okay, what are you doing? Okay, AI will do theology. You're supposed to just teach. You just show up and you hand everyone a piece of paper going what would you like me to teach today? And then I just teach what you want to hear, and then you're happy and I'm happy, and then everyone's going ever, But the whole thing is just a facade. Doing theology is what AI said, as requires connecting biblical truth coherently across the whole of scripture.
52:04 Oh boy, who would want to do that? Many sermons focus on feel good application rather than philological depth, leaving groups leaving gaps in doctrinal teaching. So then AI said, what can I do better? Ai says, I can offer you consistency and precision. I can consistently apply historical, linguistic and philological rules to avoid errors like misreading the context or ignoring cultural factors. I can generate interpretive interpretations from different theological perspectives Calvinism, are Manianism, Catholic without emotional or denominational bias. I can trace psyllological themes across all of scripture, ensuring doctrinal consistency. And so then AI offered me an example.
53:07 If a preacher teaches that Christians are guaranteed healing based on Isaiah fifty three five, AI can quickly show that this verse is often misapplied by highlighting the broader context prophetic suffering, and cross referencing related texts like one Peter two through twenty four. So even AI knows that when by his stripes we are healed is a misapplication. Even AI knows that tell a charismatic that AI knows charismatics don't. So what's the point of having a charismatic church. What's the point of having any of us? I don't know? All right? Community? Right? So why does sermons fall short?
53:48 So AI basically that says, well, how come sermons fall short compared to what AI can do? Are you ready? Here's what AI says. Number one, because humans have limitations. I'm like, well, just run it in. It says pastors can't read and process vast amounts of information as quickly as I can. Let's go, I can read faster than you. Okay, right, I can't, but I wish I could, but I can't. Oh, here we go educational gaps. Not all pastors have formal theological training, so some may lack the exegetical tools needed for deeper interpretation. Well guess what. One, there was no point in getting the education because it waste of time because nobody in the Pew care. Number two, Now I'm an idiot for getting all that education, because AI can do what I I mean why did I go to school? Ay?
54:46 I can? The only thing I will say, my schooling does allow me to do this. If I see something in AI, I can do this. I can go, wait a minute, what about this one? Because I've got other knowledge, I can be like, well, what about this or this or this? I can and gain because I know the subject. So that does help you. I will acknowledge that the more you know a subject, right Like he Sarah knows a lot about grammar and that type of stuff. She could see it say something and immediately go well what about this or what about this? Or is it this? Or and she could engage it where I would just have to say whatever it said. When it comes to some of those subjects, I'd be like, well, if it says this about the verb or the subject, if it's diagramming the sentence this way, don't I can't argue against it. Philologically, I can go We'll wait more. Philosophically I can go like, well, wait a minute, what about this or what about this?
55:36 Or what about this? And in many cases it will come back and go, well that's a good point. So that's good. I'm helping it build its knowledge about me. No, no, no, now now it gives that information to AI to be able to be utilized. But it's more, it's gonna now know personal. AI knows that for me, it still brings it up right. It still will bring it up. But AI does know that I reject God speaking to us directly, but it still will bring it up because all Christians tend to think that he is, but it will at times go However, I know that you reject this, but it will still bring it up because I don't want it to stop bringing it up right, because I wanted to offer the other counter perspective. So sermons fall short because of human limitation, educational gaps, confirmation bias. Pastors can fall into patterns of reinforcing their own beliefs or denominational traditions without engaging other interpretations. This is what churches do all the time, confirmation bias. This is what you try to talk to someone with lordship. You can't get them out of lordship because confirmation bias. They just read everything from a lordship perspective. They can't be challenged out of it.
57:00 So there's no point. AI doesn't have that problem. There's no confirmation bias. Cultural influence. Sermons can be shaped by cultural trends rather than sound theology, leading to moralism all the time, self help messages all the time rather than an actual exegenical message. So you can make a you can make a sermon sound exegetical when it's not really exegetical. And I can convince you that what we just did was exegenical when reality is it wasn't exogenical. It's all these other things. All right, So, uh so this is what AI said, all right. AI is better and exegesis, It is better in balance theological insights, and it is better in avoiding misapplication. However, there are AI falls short in some areas. All right, here's where AI says it falls short. You ready, no ethical or pastoral discernment. AI can't challenge a preacher's heart, motivation or personal bias. It can only provide options. True, But how is a pastor's heart, motivation or personal bias is challenged from truth? Right? If
58:32 AI provides me truth that is challenging those things? Does that make sense? If we believe truth is a thing that challenges it? Right? I can't how do I challenge your motivations and your biases by preaching truth? So as long as truth is being preached, however it's being delivered, I think you can accomplish that personally. No moral authority. Assernment isn't just an intellectual exercise. It's a moral and spiritual call to action. AI lacks the relational and moral authority to speak into someone's life. But I don't believe a pastor has any moral authority. I can tell you you need to do this, and what will you do?
59:15 Probably do whatever you want to do. I don't have any authority. I've been saying it for how many for my whole ministry. My authority. Stop swear with what you want, what you want to do right the minute I say this is what, you're just gonna walk right out. I mean, we look, how quickly I'll never forget I'd only been me. It was that whole first like six months of being a pastor. I got in all kinds of trouble over Santa Claus because I told everyone he doesn't exist. That caused World War III? All right, I didn't know. I wasn't allowed to say in church that the fatman with the red suit didn't exist. I mean, I still I think I have that email that I got it. Was the most insane email I'd ever seend because I told everyone months before, Hey, when we get close to Chris, I may say the fat man in the red suit doesn't exist, right, everyone knows this. Then it says it, and then I get this email. Woman goes off on me that I destroyed her childhood, I destroyed or her children's innocence, and it was like this insane. I'm like, what just happened? But even before we got to Christmas, I made some derogatory comments about certain things related to Halloween, and she went home and immediately put up Halloween decorations simply to try to prove me wrong. It said, what's the point I had? So what did I discover? Within like the first six months of being a pastor? No authority? None, no, no authority. People were going to do exactly what they want.
1:00:39 And when they didn't like what I did, what did they all do? Bobby? They all left. We lost half the church in six months. So pastors don't have any authority. I know AI is taught to say that pastors have authority, But we don't have any authority. Okay, we have none. It's in the illusion. It just mays make believe all right, AI can't tailor application to real life situations. Now that is true. It can't tailor situations to real life because it doesn't know what's going on in your life. I may know that, hey, we got something going on in the church, and I can tailor it to try to address it. The only problem is I may address it in a way that just does what ticks everyone off.
1:01:26 So AI can't do that. Me doing that doesn't necessarily mean anything good. So in terms, So in conclusion, AI said, can I preach a better sermon? Well, in terms of information accuracy, philological breadth, and depth, I can clearly outmatch any sermon. What do we do? What do we do with that? So I got more here, But we need to now try to do like the sons of this is a car and try to figure out where are we headed. Well, here's where we I'm just going to give you some things where I see whether the people in the pew know it or not, whether the people in the pew know it or not, the sermons they're going to hear are more and more are going to be generated and put together by artificial intelligence, whether you know it or not. The Bible memory app, which we've used before in the church. I told everyone to have the Bible Memory app. We used it for Bible Memory. Well, now they've got on that app, you can I think it's like five dollars. You can add the artificial intelligence part two Bible Memory app. So now you can open up that Bible Memory app, go to any scripture. You can go to first chronicles twelve wherever, and immediately what you click so they'll show you the passage of scripture.
1:02:58 You click on, say verse one, verse two, wherever, and then this thing will pop up at the bottom and it has I can't I can't remember all the options. I can't pull it up. But basically, it's going to give you the most in depth study of that passage you've ever seen in your life. It's going to give you geography, it's going to give you historical context, word study, cross references, and a detailed analysis of the entire section of scripture. It's the craziest thing I've ever seen. I mean, it's all right there, it's right there. I mean, you just go to any scripture boom and you can copy it and paste it telling and then it'll give you a simpler one and then at the bottom, I'll say deeper analysis. You click on deeper analysis, it will even expand it, make it even deeper. I'm telling you, that's where sermons are going to come from. That's where sermons are going to come from. The sermons people here are gonna be produced by AI other than the pastors who are going to fight it. But the pastors who fight it and resist it are gonna simply start being by the people in the pew. The younger generation. It is gonna be like, you don't know what you're talking about. Hey, I just told me you're basically an idiot. Now, older pastors are not going to appreciate that they're not. They're not because it can be brutal. I mean because I probably have analyzed one hundred sermons at this point. Just anytime, I'll just go to newest sermons on the sermon's two point. Oh,
1:04:30 I find the first newest sermon, download the transcript, upload it AI, and say, okay, analyze it. They'll give me the entire breakdown of the sermon, give me an entire outline. It'll give me its strengths, it's weaknesses, it will out give me all of its errors. Factual errors, logical errors, all the problems with it, and then it will give me its own basically like you know, well, this sermon is not really any good, or this is a pretty good sermon or whatever they and I'm like, this is insane. So that's the one thing that's going to happen. AI is now going to be the thing producing the sermons. Now, how do you feel about that? Sitting in the pew.
1:05:10 I don't think the average person in the pew care where the sermon comes from. You know why. I know that all those scandals about pastors buying their sermons, nobody cared. Pastors using those subscription services, nobody cared. Nobody cares all what people want as long as the pastor does what gives me some sense of spirituality so that I feel like I went to church and that we but then it makes me then feel so I don't know how I think the people in the pew, for the most part, don't care. That's my feelings. You can tell me I'm my wrong. I just don't think they care where the sermon comes from. Right, pastors have been taking them from commentaries forever. People in the pew don't care because people in the pew problem. And you know why pastors can do that because nobody in the in the congregation is going to read those commentaries, so nobody they know, nobody cares.
1:06:09 Everybody's in on the game. You just formulated in a nice making me feel good, and then I'm okay, nobody really cares. I mean, I hate to say it, but nobody cares. So I don't think anybody's gonna care about that. But from my perspective, you can see where I'm coming from. What's the point If there's a device that's giving you the sermon, and you literally can get the sermon on your own device within seconds, then what's the point of even showing up? If you're here for a sermon? You can say, Hey, Sarah could be sitting in the pastors seat.
1:06:50 Stephen could be driving like, Hey, what what passage are we on this week? Oh, we're in Isaiah forty verses eight to twelve or whatever, and she could be like, turn around, I'm good. Okay. Well Stamen could be like all right, we're good. He could just he could just like well, it'd be you know, he doesn't like to read, so he could just have it read it for her. And she could just listen, like, okay, they could. We'll just see him pull up here, turn around. I'll be like, oh, well, I guess I got the AI sermon, and guess what it would be. It'll be better. Like I'm not even gonna deny it. It will be better. I'm not afraid to say that this is not gonna make any pronunciation mistakes.
1:07:33 It's not gonna make any subject verb agreement or any of the things I do wrong verbally. It's not gonna make any of those mistakes. It's gonna be perfect. It's gonna be organized, it's gonna be detailed. It's gonna be perfect. Why show up here, Maybe no jokes. You can ask it to throw in some humor. I guarantee you probably can probably even better jokes. Maybe the timing will be a little off because it'll just be reading, you know. You know, Okay, So what I mean, like, do you see that kind of raises that point? What's the point you said, Well, it's it's better to listen to a person. Well, you can have AI read it to you. I mean, the chat GPT has a great voice function. I mean, you can just have a conversation with it. You have to ask a question. You just talked to it. Have you been seeing the commercials for Google Gemini to all the commercials just having people just talking to it, just like just talk to it and regular and it just talks to you just look in a normal way. Yeah, I mean that's Google Gemini that. I mean all the all the companies are working to make it better and better and better and better, whether it's Copilot for Microsoft, Google Gemini, Amazon will have their own ever chat GPT, all of them. It's a it's a word an arms race who can do it better and they're going to get better and better and better and better and better. Yeah, just speak to you just like a normal person, just
1:09:05 like a normal conversation. Yeah, just like you're having a conversation with anybody. So what about this or like the one example is like the woman's talking to it about her dream. So I had this dream and it was like this, and then it's like, well in dreams, Jim, and I response back, well, in dreams they could represent this, and this could represent this, and this could represent just just like a normal conversation, you'll forget people, right. So I so, from from my perspective, what's the why am I here? From your perspective, you probably don't care so much how the sermon was put together as long as you get the sermon, so then you can see where it's gonna go. If the people who you who are willing to spend time with AI, they're gonna be like, well, why am I going to church? Right for the people preaching, why am I here? Because they already have what I can give them, and you're going to see how the how it could become very combative if a pastor tries to preach something and they're being fact checked in real time because on the sermon reviews. Typically, I always tell you I got AI right here, and so I'll be reviewing.
1:10:16 I'll be just like, that's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true, that's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true, that's not true. All right, Next, I'm just using AI to review the sermon in real time. How's the pastor supposed to compete with that? But no, But I think in some ways we have to teach people how to utilize it. I think I think that's gonna have to be the future. So I don't know where we're going, but I just want you to see what AI. So let's just make it clear. AI can do better than any pastor. That's just a fact. Right, may not have you. It may be different in listening to someone preach it versus reading it. I understand there is a difference there. But if you're going to get something better there on your phone and seconds and then you can ask it, you can go back and forth with it, and you can just build your own study.
1:11:18 You can even do more with it than you can here. Right, is it worth then getting in a car driving all the way here? The money to keep a building operating? If that you have, you see where that's headed. It's going to be hard to convince people. Now. We can try to say, well, for sake, not to the assembly, and we can try to make all those arguments, and I understand, but it's going to be really difficult. So how can it be integrated? Now there's all kinds of ideas. I'm like, you know, all right, everyone pull out your phones, all right, let's look this up and almost kind of work people through it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I always try to tell you when, yeah, when I used AI for this, right, I'm already bringing it into it, right, Yeah, I'm already bringing that. I try to say, hey, AI this or AI that, and sometimes it's it becomes all blurred together because it's ongoing conversation. So it's not just AI. It's my conversation with it. So it's a mix of things thrown in or I'm cutting out, like a lot of this.
1:12:21 I cut out a lot of things AI said, and I mix it together. Sometimes it's a mixture. So but it's still AI is very much involved. I mean, why wouldn't I be involved? Now? I appreciate. Telling people, right, yeah, but to be fair, that's been going on with commentaries. Yeah, it's been commentaries. I mean you know you yeah, yeah, I mean I can just go someone will be like, we're starting a series on the Epistles of John and you start listening to it, and I'll be like, that's James Montgomery Boyce, age thirty nine.
1:13:02 I know the commentary. If you know the church, mister Goodlett will know this. If you know the church, you know what commentaries are using. Right, if it's a reform Baptist kind of church, a good, very good chests are using a MacArthur commentary and others and others obviously right Presbyterian, you know they're going to be using Calvin most likely you can and once you get to know what the commentary is, and if you go, if you visit the pastor when you first join the church, if you're in his office, just look at the office because most of the cases they have their books there. You can be like, huh, I know where these sermons are coming from because you'll see the commentary said. Now, I'm not saying that's wrong.
1:13:46 I'm just saying that that it's always been that way to some level. Pastors are utilizing whatever resources they have. Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely not. So it's it's gonna create a weird I don't know what this means, but I wanted to take today as we are kind of facing a new year, because we're in it now and I don't know what it means, and it's gonna be this weird back and forth for me. I got to figure out what's even the point. Like I said, I've been struggling with this all through twenty twenty four, sitting in front of the microphone at home. I'm like, I can analyze these sermons. Anybody else can analyze the sermon. They can just have AI analyze any sermon they want. They don't need me. I can talk about this, I can talk about this. They can. You can take any news story.
1:14:33 You can take any news story, put the link in AI and say, analyze this from a theological perspective. It'll break down the entire news art article in theological perspective. You don't need me, So then what am I doing? Well? Then I'll be getting ready for a sermon on Isaiah forty through fifty five. I can be using AI, working back and forth, trying to figure things out. But I'm like, why am I doing this? I could just call out of you guys, Hey, chat GPT Isaiah forty, enjoy your week. You don't need me. You could then show up and say, hey, this is what I got. Sarah could get like this is what I got from chat GPT on Isaiah forty, and Bobby could say this is what I got, and mister Goodlick could be like, this is what I got, and I'm like, okay for this Sunday, let's discuss what everyone got from chat GBT on Isaiah forty. You ready?
1:15:25 Now my job would be to be as knowledgeable of Isaiah forty so that I can engage all of what you found. We could do it that way. You see how that's gonna the sermon is gone. Look, the sermon no longer exists. It's gonna be the pastor is gonna facilitate what people found, or people just not gonna use it. That's also a very good possibility. People are not gonna want to sit at home doing that, So they're gonna show up and they don't care if I used it because they're not going to go home and use it. I mean, there is a little bit of truth to that. Can we agree, right? I mean? Can I mean? Can we agree? I mean, how many of you are gonna spend uh, you know, forty five minutes with Ai working on a biblical passage? Though Sarah will see, then Sarah can just be the pastor and she's the pope. Yeah, yeah, she can't step down be a lowly pastor. I mean, come on, we're stripping her of her magistral authority. She'd be a pastor. Everyone can disagree with a pastor on the pope. Nobody can disagree with me. Okay, but yeah, if Sarah does that, and you which which one are you utilizing? Which chat GPT? But you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, so some will and the ones who do will probably like, well I don't really need to come to church. Others who don't be like, well I need you to do it because I don't feel like spending time doing it. All right? Well then I then
1:16:56 then I guess I have some usefulness. But you see, that's going to be very difficult. So I don't know where it's gonna go. Oh yeah, educational world's feeling this. Oh yeah, so I don't know how do you have an opinion on how it should work in shirt since you already use it? Okay, but you can already see where the problem could be, right well, right, and then if you if they already can get what you teach them from their device in five seconds? Right? Yeah? Yeah, it's okay, you're so you can feel it from that perspective, kay.
1:17:57 Right, right, it's the kidder. Exactly, but from a but if you but have you already felt I mean, and it's okay if you say it, have you already felt like, well, I've already looked at this in AI and so what the sermon is is basically okay, not yet. Well, it will happen. It will happen now. I may be, I may my ongoing discussions with AI may shape it in a way where you won't get to the same thing, but you're gonna get to the same basic concept. If she looks up, where are we in Isaiah forty, we'll end with this. I know we're overtime, but Isaiah forty, if we look really quick, we are in verse Yeah, we start in verse nine.
1:18:44 We've started verse nine. So next week, if you use chat GPT, you can already start working on Isaiah forty What nine? What's in our outline? Does it go nine to eleven in our outline? Hang on, how do you go to my observational outline? I haven't slipt in like ten years, So going on forty down nine to eleven? Okay? Yeah, So right now, Sarah could ask a chat GPT to analyze Isaiah forty nine through analyze outline, summarize exegetical breakdown of Isaiah forty nine through eleven. I guarantee you what she can get she can put together right now be better than what I can do. She's already done it.
1:19:29 Already done it. What does it start with. Isaiah aspect of character relationship? Yeah, she's already got She's already got it broken down. See how quick that was. What's the point of me existing? Right? Like, how do we work with that now? The way I may work with AI will probably have it broken down far greater detail than what she just got right there.
1:20:09 But I so I may work with it to get more okay, just analyzed right, But and that brief thing you're gonna get all the main points that show show will show up next Sunday already knowing any main point I'm gonna make because she did it. And you see how quick that was. That's insane, like lightning fast. So like, I don't know how do we work that now? My job is to make sure ultimately, I see my job now is making sure that I that I can help anyone learn how to use it better and better and better and better and better. But I think it's gonna come down to our do people want the pastor just to use AI to show up to preach what AI gives them because they don't care to look it up.
1:20:54 And I think that'll be a good portion of the church will because a good port go throughout church history, most Christians weren't going home buying commentaries, were they. No, most people aren't sitting at home during the week reading hermonutical textbooks. So they've already always left it to the pastor until they want to disagree, of course, right, But but this is even quicker. So I think what we'll do, we'll we will get more people who will use it, which is going to make church more irrelevant. We'll still have a big group that won't use it, and we'll expect the pastor to do so. But I think it's going to become more because it's so easy. It's so easy. I mean, you saw that. I mean that, what a great example to end with. Hey, next week we'll be there, Cherry has the breakdown. What's the don't I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know what I'm doing. So if you just know that, that's where we're headed, and we'll see. I'll be talking about it probably throughout the entire year, talking more and more about this. But just know what AI can do is better than what I can do, and any past who denies that as a liar, AI is better in anything I cannot compete with what AI can do. No way, no way, I can't. And you already feel that as a teacher. Yeah so, and it kind of feels weird when you're sitting in front of a microphone, going what am I doing? Just look it up? Okay, I'll see you later. I'll be downstairs watching wrestling. Okay, forget it. There's no point, Hey, young
1:22:28 and I say, where's the pastor at? Just look it up on chat GPT. Leave me alone. I'm at home. Okay, right, y'all gonna call. Why aren't you at church? You got chat GPT, You don't need me, okay, click? All right, let's pray, Lorca. We come before you this afternoon. Lord. We're facing a brave new world, and Lord, I don't have any answers of where it's headed, but I am thankful we are able to have a lot of these discussions today as we face a brand new year. We don't know what is in store for us and how to process all of this or even where it's going. But all we can do is trust in you and know that the one thing that will not change is you and your word. And we trust in you, and we trust in that word and We asked this in Jesus name, and God's people said
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