Life in Woke America with Author Joel Rakow, Secret Labs, and the Liberty Scorecard S3-EP15

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See this book?

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Pretty simple.

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Okay, so we're printing 300 copies for the library campaign.

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And the first books come out of the printer without that word.

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Hmm.

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Now, it's already been printed once before.

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This isn't the first printing.

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All right, everybody.

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Welcome back to another episode of the Space Tomatoes podcast

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with your hosts, Havoc and LX.

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And today we are joined by a special guest, Joel Rakow, author of Life in Woke America.

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Welcome to the show, Joe.

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Yeah, thank you. Glad to be here.

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Yeah. So, you know, we had a little bit of a discussion before this, and obviously the title is somewhat provocative.

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You know, what made you come up with that title?

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And can you give us kind of a brief overview of this book?

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Sure, sure.

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Well, I'll give you the Paulist version of How It Up Came.

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So the story is about an orphan boy who comes of age during COVID and the aftermath.

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death. So orphan boy, no family, no, no parents to help him figure out what's going on in the world

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and what he can be, what, you know, what's important to him. He's got to do it on his own.

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And all he's got is the outside world. So what was dominant in the outside world was, you know,

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billion-dollar sports franchises, AI, robots.

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And to capture it all as a time, the era can be defined as the period of time

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in which America was more woke than usual, we'll say.

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So it's an era.

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It describes the era.

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now i could have called the book life in a sports crazed america and told the same story

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all right well that i would i like actually i'd like to do that book

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i want to go down the road like what does woke mean to you i mean i i have a general

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concept of what it means uh i'm like the least political guy of anybody but i mean i've heard

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it, obviously. What does that mean to you, that term? Well, I can tell you what has been

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the definition. I don't mean the definition in terms of technical stuff, but just the common

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thoughts about it. And then what is evolving now? So it was that there's an oppressor

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and there's the oppressed. And that everything is examined, analyzed through that lens.

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That's essentially what, you know, wokeness boils down to.

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And you can apply it to, you know, okay.

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So in America's case, what I used to love was that the government was evaluated based on whether the middle class was growing, getting stronger.

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You know, that was a good thing.

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For some reason, what's happened is now, no, we don't use that as the standard anymore.

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And somehow it got turned around.

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So now that we look at all the fringe elements, the fringe of society, the marginalized, how did that happen?

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Who authorized it?

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Who decided?

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I mean, that's like pretty crazy.

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Now, the new theory, and with us three guys sitting here, we could get lamb blasted.

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So I won't say too much about it.

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But there is a couple of female sociologists who are articulating that as America, like workplace, professions, universities are getting more and more women, that what this really is is a feminization of America.

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and that the same things you see, the dynamics that you see in women groups are starting to show

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more in society than they used to when it was primarily male dominated.

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And I going to take it So I live I in California right now but I live half time on a ranch in Texas And this ranch is so big and old It was you know from the late 1800s

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So big that no living person has put their eye on every inch of the ranch until the fire that came through a couple of years ago.

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but the standard practice on the ranches,

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the girl horses are in one pasture and the boy horses,

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the geldings are in another pasture.

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And everybody thinks that that reason is because, you know,

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you don't want them trying to, you know, fight.

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They don't, you know, they don't, you know, you know,

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guys do they'll try and jostle and get in position until they get noticed by

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the best looking horse, you know?

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It happens.

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But what you see is that there's always one horse that's cut out.

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If you've got six horses, there's one standing in the corner.

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If you've got 30, there's three standing over in corners.

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It's just, you know, there's a biological thing that goes on.

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But anyway, that answered the question?

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Yeah.

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A little bit of color?

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We actually have horses as well. And an interesting thing as well is in the horse world, predominantly the mares will take lead over the geldings. Predominantly. This is not a truism. It's just a, on average, that happens more often than not.

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However, my gelding for some reason has tackled the two mares and he is, he's become the lead.

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Well, I don't know why he's also younger too.

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So it's very interesting, but you know, that is interesting.

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Very cool.

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So in your book, one of the things that, that comes up as a topic is the Reedley lab in California, right?

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Which was a real event, right?

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what made you choose that and how did you kind of incorporate that into your book?

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How did I or why?

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Well, why, sorry, yes.

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Okay, well, because I thought it was emblematic of what wasn't happening.

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And what wasn't happening was the pursuit of truth.

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The media had completely become its own thing.

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unresponsive to the needs of the people.

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So whatever was driving them, and I have my theories and I have my facts,

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but whatever was driving them, they would either suppress it if they didn't like it.

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They would smear it if they didn't like the person.

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I mean, look at what they've done with Trump and all those guys.

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I mean, nobody could be as bad as Trump is portrayed.

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You know, I mean, they just couldn't.

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And so this was a real biological bioweapon lab, secret, unlicensed, operating in California, about maybe 30, 40 miles outside of Fresno.

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25,000 population towns, so not tiny, but rural, small.

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And they discovered that it was owned and operated by Chinese personnel,

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that the Chinese guy that had his name on the lease was wanted for $300 million,

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dollars had a 300 million 300 thousand dollar warrant for his arrest from canada yet he was

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across the border he was able to get this lab going and when it was found you never heard about

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it yep okay it was are you aware that the second one has been found with the same guy

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no you have well that's isn't that the one that was found in las vegas or no right right right

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yeah yeah right right okay so you heard about the second well i i happen to uh i happen to

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have a lot of alternate channels for news and information because i i have you know my thought

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is anytime you're getting information from one side, you're getting maybe half the truth.

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If you're getting it from the other side, you're getting half. If you get both sides and then take

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your time and really muddle through it, you can kind of get to something closer to the truth.

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So yeah, I've heard of it. You'd be amazed at what you can find as information that never

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makes the news and it's

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kind of shocking.

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I haven't heard of either one. It doesn't surprise

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me though That I want to layer on top of this So one it was compelling enough that there was a congressional investigation of it So when I downloaded the report

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I looked at it, I go,

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there's no doubt that that was true.

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There's not a thing about it that was false.

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I mean, it was like rigorous.

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There were photos.

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I've seen pictures of the lease agreement.

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I've seen pictures of the guy.

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I've seen all his driver's license with all three of them that all have the same picture but different names.

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I mean, it was fishy.

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All right.

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And so they had this report.

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Now I'm thinking, why did they call it a biolab and not a bioweapon lab?

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And you're not going to believe this.

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So the weapon that was being developed was changing the DNA of mice so that they could be contagious, carry one of these viruses that were in the vials in the refrigerator, all labeled Ebola, HIV.

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HIV, hepatitis, COVID, yeah, HIV, and get it so that the mouse would be contagious.

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And then they could release the mice.

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But there's another level that I think is that they would then put the mice in the cages with rats,

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and they would infect each other.

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And so then they could release rats, which are hardier and more aggressive.

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Okay, so there were mice and rats there, but we don't really know what they were going to do.

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So, you know why?

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I can tell you why it's called the lab and not a bioweapon lab.

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Or a biolab, not a bioweapon lab.

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And that's because somehow somebody in the congressional committee was able to argue the case that a single mouse is not a bioweapon.

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right yeah even though 1200 mice are yeah and and the purchase of mice single mouse does not

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have the lethality and the purchase required to be called a bioweapon and the purchase of mice is

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not regulated in any way shape or form so it's an easy enough transaction same with rats uh yeah

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no i i i yeah fully aware of all that and and so you know so just think what would have happened

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if that would have been promoted in the news

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in the way things used to get promoted in the news that were scary.

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Yeah.

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You know how to fix it, right?

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We just ban rats across the board.

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Make them illegal to own.

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Make them illegal to own and buy,

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and that'll fix the problem 100%.

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You know what?

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I think there's an election season coming up, man.

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You should run.

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You've got the great ideas there.

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I mean, does that not fix the problem?

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Or better yet, we just put a sign on the front of the building that you're not allowed to bring rats into this facility.

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Well, you got to remember this is a secret.

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That'll stop people right at the door.

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Nobody knew what was going on in there.

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They presented themselves as being a pregnancy test facility.

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That's how they got away with it for the couple of years.

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Call me crazy, but I'm just going to say that if the government knows what you're watching on your TV,

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i'm sure they had to know about this place and like they had to have some kind of vested interest

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in it or something i don't know well there's there's there's little question of that and here's

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why uh i think we gotta watch him i think he's gonna get pretty political he's not at least two

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of the substances there are highly regulated right you you don't get to just have those and ship them

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around the country and and it doesn't you can't so in some way shape or form someone knew that this

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was going to a destination they knew where it was going who it was going to it was under a license

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etc it's it's just not there were enough vials in there and they had all the labels on them so they

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were transported you know in an effective manner it's just you know uh so you you know you can

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info from that so in the book there they find a so the story takes place in amarillo texas

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and um and so the boy grows up he gets a girlfriend um you know they're gonna do a

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family and then he notices behind the the house that there's a a hinky house behind her property

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and they study it for a while and it ends up being a forward operating base

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in connected to the lab in Wrigley so you know they similar people similar names so the idea is you get the uninfected rats and you put them in cages in Amarillo and you bring a few mice that are contagious and put them in the same cages for you know a few weeks

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And pretty soon all the rats will be in.

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You didn't have to move a whole bunch of rats that are contagious at one time.

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That's the theory that I developed for the story.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it's probably not that far off.

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Although, you might have to wait for a birth pattern to get genetic sequences to pass on to the next generation.

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but I don't know that you could effectively transmit that.

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Well, yeah, that's why it's a big project, right?

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You don't know when it was going to be.

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You don't know when the actual launch date of the attack was going to be.

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Right?

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But you've got to start getting things prepared and set up.

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And so they were able to catch the one in Amarillo.

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This is fiction ahead of time.

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And so the way he takes it down at the end in the big battle

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is he uses InfoWare tactics so that they can take it down

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and he can vanish, and they'll never be able to determine

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that he's the guy that took it down.

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Very interesting.

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I must say, it's pretty clever, pretty sophisticated,

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and you don't have that silly thing where you've got two guys brawling in the street,

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you know, punching each other out at the last battle.

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Oh, man.

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No unrealistic battles.

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That's my favorite part.

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Nope.

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So, oh, go ahead, Alex.

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No, I was just going to say, you know, they're not like shooting it out in the street and they have like unlimited ammunition that never, you know, stops.

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So when they make the movie, they can.

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I'm like, what is that going to end?

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Anyway, sorry.

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Well, you take all the weight of all those bullets that they shoot and they never could have been running in the first place.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, no question. Yeah. Shouldn't you have reloaded by now? I think that's your like 3000th shot.

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I know. You had a revolver and you shot like 100 rounds. How does that work?

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Silliness, general silliness. So what else did this young man encounter throughout his life that was, you know, interesting, extraordinary, etc.?

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um well he sort of educated himself online you know he found that a useful way to go

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and he was right at the beginning period with um maybe mid reddit early x if you think about you

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know the tradition and he caught um he caught a fellow um that became went on to become very famous

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early on and sort of was his mentor for a little while,

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even though they never met.

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You know, it was just an online thing.

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And then that guy ends up giving him some prototypes

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to some robots that he's building.

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And he uses those robots to upgrade his home repair business

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to make it like a technology-enhanced home repair business.

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And so he's building a pretty interesting enterprise in the panhandle of Texas while he's romancing this girl, woman, and getting more and more ensnared in the woke world around him.

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and so the woke world kind of hits him by one when he was in the military and and he that's when he

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discovered um the lab and he came back and he was a hero among all the other troops he was only a

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private and um um and for a few days you know it was like well we got it we get we got we got an

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enemy. We get to go attack. We get to take it down. Then he started getting suppressed.

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And these civilians, I don't know if you know it, but there are civilians that suddenly became

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integrated into the military, never having served, never having been commissioned. And yet,

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as they say in the book, they know that they're getting more and more authority

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inside the military.

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So they threatened him with a dishonorable discharge

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if he didn't stop talking about this

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and said they'd put him on a watch list,

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a no-fly watch list,

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like they did Tulsi Gabbard and Pete Hedsethe,

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not just the police.

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Not unreasonable that they wouldn't use that.

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I don't know if you know this, but that fly list that they have, Quiet Skies, isn't even a real no-fly list.

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But they call it one, they put people's names on it, then they use it out in the press to smear people.

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Well, they do use it. No, they actually do use it.

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Yeah, so you're already an extremist because you're on this list.

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Well, but they actually do use it. The list does exist.

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I work in my work.

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One of the individuals that is part of my division was actually denied access to fly.

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And he was on that list.

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But it wasn't him was the thing.

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It was.

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It wasn't what?

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It wasn't him.

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It was the exact name.

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Right.

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Oh.

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But someone else's name was the real person.

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but it took him like months, six months or something, six, seven months to get his self cleared.

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To get it straightened out.

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There was no incentive.

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Right.

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It wasn't a real operation.

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They didn't even, I mean, it was no procedures because it had never been set up.

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It wasn't real.

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Yeah.

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But they could use it.

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If they still let you fly, there's no list.

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Yeah, right.

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Oh.

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Yeah.

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But the point is, so then he gets stopped by a cop, and that causes some problems, you know, even when he's been out for a few years, because they never took him off the list.

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Yeah.

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And so, you know, stuff just starts building up, and so then he's got to fight back.

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So there's the robot thing.

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He's building his business.

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he's uh the woman's um so in amarillo there's a real shortage of people who have um executive

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level talent and so this kid even though he didn't he has he's got um you know personal

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attributes which make him pretty stellar so he succeeds in a lot of areas um from the you know

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the ground up. So, um, he's,

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he's attractive to the woman's father because he can help him run a part of the

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business, which is kind of annoying, uh, for the prop, the guy that owns the

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father. Um, everybody in the book,

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all the main participants of the book have a ambiguous ethnicity.

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that's a i made i made that a character in the book because if you're going to have identity

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politics what do you do when you can't identify somebody to fall into a category

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it's like it so the whole thing is kind of like a um uh you know it's kind of like a a poke at

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The woke people, right?

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So what was the actual spark, the impetus for the book?

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Like what made you decide, I'm actually going to write this

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and this is what I'm going to write?

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Well, there's the last step and then there's the couple before.

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The last step was I woke up, I knew exactly what the story would be.

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Everything, I never, I knew everything.

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I just said, just do the work.

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It was never, it was not going to be a problem.

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wow i don't know and i don't know and i've never written a novel i've never written fiction before

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and so but it's getting four stars four and a half stars on amazon it's gotten two book awards from

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real reasonable you know competitions um i just got a um recruited away from my small little

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publisher to the publishing arm of the world's biggest distribution book distribution company

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in the world. And they connected to me with the number one book sales organization

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in North America with 100,000 stores.

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Wow.

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And what they do is they rent space in like a Walmart or a bookstore

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or like an airport bookstore.

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So they own that space, and then they merchandise it,

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and they do all that.

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And so the bookstores, they don't,

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and the bookstores don't even have to buy the books.

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So all they do is collect whatever money comes in, and then it gets sorted out between the author and these two other companies.

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And we're in 100 libraries in the state of Texas alone, and that's only after three weeks of a campaign.

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So the book's proving it's holding up.

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You know I say all that just to let you know that it turned out to be you know a book that you have to take seriously So how did you find the actual publishing and editing process

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Was that difficult?

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Was that challenging?

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You know, to a certain extent, you know, accepting criticism or critique is, you know, fine.

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But at some point, you know, I've heard stories from other authors where, you know, editors and publishers just are very bearish on what they want.

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Yeah. OK. So, you know, Life in Woke America is not going to be a title that flows easily through the publishing industry.

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There's that blue haired army. Right.

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So I can tell you a story for every single step on how we got suppressed, banned, censored, slow walk, gated, everything.

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So much so that I've written a four-part article called Death to a Thousand Stories, Writing a Conservative Novel in Woke America.

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Interesting.

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And it goes through the publishing part and then the marketing part.

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and I've come to think that I could be paranoid

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because I expected at every single threshold

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that there are going to be things.

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But I'll give you a couple examples.

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See this book?

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Pretty simple.

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Okay, so we're printing 300 copies

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for the library campaign.

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and the first books come out of the printer without that word.

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Now, it's already been printed once before.

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This isn't the first printing.

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So somebody took it out and nobody noticed it

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and they felt so strongly that they have their employer printing books

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that are going to have to be thrown away.

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So they totally jeopardized their job to do that.

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Where did that happen?

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At the printer did that?

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Well, it could have been the art house.

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You know, whoever did the artwork for the cover.

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They just left it blank with nothing in the middle?

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Every time I ask them, they're not telling me.

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But I'll get to it.

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So I'm going to say right off the bat that I've worked with printing before, printing.

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And if you're doing repeat printing, it's usually already something the printer has.

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So if you've done one, they keep it.

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They don't, unless you request a new design.

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So, you know, take what you want from that.

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But I never had to go back and resubmit my design so they could recreate, you know, the plates, et cetera, on the press.

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It was always, oh, yeah, we've got that.

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Any changes?

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No, no changes.

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All right, cool.

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And that was it.

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Well, I'm only running theories here on this.

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But I'll bet you that the artwork that was used is not as secure as the evidence room of a police department.

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True.

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So the ARC people could have gotten in there to get it.

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Because it wasn't like the word was totally gone.

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It was, you know, it was space so that it looked great.

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Oh, okay.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it wasn't like they just put something over it.

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Maybe at your book signings you can get some of those error copies

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and just write it in there yourself and autograph it.

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I think that would be, you know, like a unique copy to have.

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Get a white paint pen.

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Oh, boy, did you just set me off?

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That's great.

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I love it.

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I will go to them and see what they did

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I hope they haven't disposed of those books yet

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It's like an editor

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You can put the little arrow thing and just write it in there

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Yeah, limited edition, signed copy

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That's the one I want

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I want the one that they tried to hide

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I at least want a few

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Real books like that

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Yeah

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I can have fun with them wherever I go

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I mean, I can go to

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Even under here, I can show you the two books

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right now i do have photos yeah okay but here's the real real deal so we live on this ranch

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and the ranch does have minerals it has oil and gas and so um you know the the in the biden

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administration we were um we were debanked i would say we were in the process of being debanked

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They said that the money comes from fossil fuels Therefore you can do any you not entitled to any loans That what they did to us And it would have it might have could have gotten worse but that how that where they were starting

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And then the other thing was, so we, my wife and I quarantined on the ranch, which was great because, you know, there's, I had more chance of getting mad cow's disease than I did.

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COVID. And so near the end was getting to be about January, early January. And I realized,

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hey, a couple of days from the ranch, we could be in Washington and we could go to J6 and do that

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thing. And so after that, I realized how close I came to getting jailed for three years, four years,

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no writ of habeas corpus

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they would never have charged me with anything

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and I'd be in prison for those years

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and I would get out

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I would be getting out about a year ago

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I said that's scary

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I have looked into your

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background a little bit and I know historically

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you were actually on the democratic side,

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weren't you up until about 2020?

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2020 is when I,

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when I resigned.

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So third generation,

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personally,

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50 years,

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I didn't always,

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I don't never,

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of course I wouldn't vote party a line all the time,

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but I,

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I never,

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you know,

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the whole,

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the family had been Democrats didn't really matter to me because I vote what

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the votes,

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what matters.

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And I wasn't,

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I didn't,

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wasn't active in the party,

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but my,

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My position was socially liberal, fiscally conservative,

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and my faith in the government is measured by the middle class.

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And as long as the middle class is getting stronger,

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that creates peace on earth, as far as I can tell.

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You were essentially a party of Kennedy Democrat.

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The what?

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The party of Kennedy Democrat.

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Right, right, right.

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The old, like, I'm going to make my decision based on what's good for the people and who's presenting things that are good for the people and, you know, all of this, which, you know, partisan politics really irks me because it's gone from that to what's good for the party.

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That, you know, to me is the antithesis of what this whole experiment was about.

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You're absolutely right.

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You're absolutely right.

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So how much time do we have left?

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Because that's your perfect segue into what I'm doing next.

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Oh, no, we're good.

426
00:34:10,738 --> 00:34:13,278
We've got plenty of time if you've got time.

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Well, I went to the doctor on Monday for an annual,

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and I got talked into taking the flu vaccine.

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And so then I got the flu that afternoon.

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You know, I started, and so I'm still recovering.

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So I don't know, maybe another half hour or so and I'll be running out of gas.

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Okay.

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I don't feel that's a coincidence.

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Oh, it is.

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And it wasn't.

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I've had one in my life.

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I literally got the flu seven times that year and I never get the flu, man.

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So that was the last one.

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I'm like, I'm good.

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00:34:52,818 --> 00:34:58,138
Well, the argument that you gave me was that at my age,

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there are more people going into the hospital this year than have in the past several years.

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And if that happens, even though it's not likely, being in the hospital for an extended period of

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time, you never really come all the way back from that. So I said, oh, how could I fault that

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argument? You know, I would never be able to look her in the eye again if that actually happened.

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Yeah, no, I understand that. I honestly, you know, I have my own position and, you know, I have no qualms about stating where that is, but I am firmly in the camp of everyone should be able to make their own informed decision, period, right?

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Nobody should be forced into it and everyone should be able to say yay or nay.

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Regardless, you just, I don't want to, or, you know, I have some deep seated religious

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religion or reason, or it doesn't matter.

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You shouldn't even have to be defined.

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It's just sure or no.

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That's it.

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It's not forced.

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It's not forced at all.

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It's just, we'll take your job and, and, and you can't go anywhere and, and, and you're

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not going to be able to use your, you know, bank card if you don't get it.

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That's all.

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It's not forced though.

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We'll take the kids away and we'll put you in re-education camps.

459
00:36:17,018 --> 00:36:19,658
My goodness, some of the ideas that came about.

460
00:36:19,778 --> 00:36:21,878
And I was like, are you people serious?

461
00:36:24,058 --> 00:36:37,751
Not to mention the fact that they didn even tell the truth about what just how it was dangerous into what groups yeah yeah yeah yeah that was a very scary

462
00:36:37,751 --> 00:36:45,071
time in our history to me but it also brought about something that gave me a lot of hope

463
00:36:45,071 --> 00:36:52,591
right, which was a good 20 to 30 percent of the population globally stood up and went,

464
00:36:52,771 --> 00:36:54,911
something's wrong and no.

465
00:36:55,811 --> 00:36:56,491
Was it that much?

466
00:36:57,131 --> 00:36:58,531
Yeah, I think it was.

467
00:36:58,531 --> 00:37:04,151
There were really large movements against it, you know, globally, right?

468
00:37:04,691 --> 00:37:06,951
More so in some places than others.

469
00:37:06,951 --> 00:37:13,371
Obviously, there's, you know, differing authorities in different countries.

470
00:37:13,371 --> 00:37:20,371
uh, but you know, and systems, uh, but I, I do think there was a lot of pushback and a lot of

471
00:37:20,371 --> 00:37:25,411
it was soft, right. And not necessarily standing up and saying no, but like, no, I'm not doing that,

472
00:37:25,411 --> 00:37:29,631
uh, you know, in a quiet, but perfect purposeful way. Right.

473
00:37:33,851 --> 00:37:35,911
Okay. Tinfoil hat off. I'm good now.

474
00:37:35,911 --> 00:37:48,991
No tinfoil about it, right? I mean, at the end of the day, you know, at least to my mind, it doesn't take much critical thinking to go, hey, it takes seven to 10 years to put a vaccine out.

475
00:37:49,831 --> 00:37:54,711
This new technology hasn't done so well previously in lab tests.

476
00:37:55,351 --> 00:37:58,431
It's under emergency use authorization.

477
00:37:58,771 --> 00:38:03,131
And they're saying, no, you can't look at this thing or you can't look at that thing.

478
00:38:03,171 --> 00:38:10,831
And they're demonizing things that are showing potential signs of efficacy to keep it in place.

479
00:38:10,851 --> 00:38:15,531
It doesn't take a brain surgeon to go, you know, something's wrong here.

480
00:38:15,531 --> 00:38:15,931
Right.

481
00:38:15,931 --> 00:38:22,371
and maybe I should look into this a little bit more, uh, before I make my decision, right? Not

482
00:38:22,371 --> 00:38:26,951
again, I'm not going to try and sway anyone. This is your decision. It's your body, man.

483
00:38:27,391 --> 00:38:33,251
Uh, but at the same time, you know, urging some critical thinking and some, you know,

484
00:38:33,571 --> 00:38:39,431
true thought process of, of how realistic is what they're telling us period. Right.

485
00:38:39,431 --> 00:38:42,451
I don't know, but absolutely I can tell you with

486
00:38:42,451 --> 00:38:46,071
100% accuracy that it was not developed in a lab

487
00:38:46,071 --> 00:38:48,611
at all, period

488
00:38:48,611 --> 00:38:52,811
Sorry

489
00:38:52,811 --> 00:38:55,731
There was too much hocus pocus going on

490
00:38:55,731 --> 00:38:58,651
doing things, the whole mask thing

491
00:38:58,651 --> 00:39:03,111
everybody knows that those masks are good for 30 minutes

492
00:39:03,111 --> 00:39:05,251
and then they're just as infected as

493
00:39:05,251 --> 00:39:09,011
anything else, so that doesn't make sense

494
00:39:09,011 --> 00:39:15,831
no and it's especially when you're real clear early on that you know that young kids were not

495
00:39:15,831 --> 00:39:24,011
going to get this yeah and so you shut down the schools you distort the whole life of you know

496
00:39:24,011 --> 00:39:30,971
early life of kids in their form formative years yeah children were born and spent years without

497
00:39:30,971 --> 00:39:33,111
seeing their parents' faces.

498
00:39:33,751 --> 00:39:35,631
No faces from anyone.

499
00:39:36,191 --> 00:39:40,431
So, and children need that developmentally, right?

500
00:39:40,551 --> 00:39:42,511
It's an important characteristic.

501
00:39:43,631 --> 00:39:46,771
But, you know, what do you say, right?

502
00:39:47,771 --> 00:39:50,271
You know, one would hope that there were lessons learned,

503
00:39:50,991 --> 00:39:57,811
although, yeah, I don't know that they necessarily were, right?

504
00:39:57,811 --> 00:39:58,391
I think.

505
00:39:58,391 --> 00:40:04,451
Well, none of them were lessons that society hadn't learned for centuries before.

506
00:40:05,271 --> 00:40:10,251
I mean, these guys didn't do anything that heinous that hadn't already been done.

507
00:40:11,251 --> 00:40:11,991
Yeah, true.

508
00:40:12,651 --> 00:40:16,771
I mean, you go to China, they do propaganda all the time.

509
00:40:17,571 --> 00:40:19,771
Well, yeah, every nation does.

510
00:40:19,931 --> 00:40:20,751
Open knowledge.

511
00:40:21,431 --> 00:40:22,631
Yeah, every nation does.

512
00:40:22,631 --> 00:40:27,671
We used to have a law against it, but even that didn't stop us from doing it.

513
00:40:27,671 --> 00:40:30,051
But, you know, now there's no law against it.

514
00:40:30,111 --> 00:40:31,271
So, hey, you know, whatever.

515
00:40:31,951 --> 00:40:32,731
It's all fine.

516
00:40:33,071 --> 00:40:33,371
It's good.

517
00:40:34,031 --> 00:40:36,751
Well, that's the Smith-Munt Act.

518
00:40:36,951 --> 00:40:37,391
It is.

519
00:40:37,511 --> 00:40:37,771
Okay.

520
00:40:37,811 --> 00:40:38,951
You guys are familiar with it.

521
00:40:39,011 --> 00:40:39,971
We don't need to go through it.

522
00:40:40,111 --> 00:40:42,171
But that was an Obama move.

523
00:40:42,911 --> 00:40:43,071
Yep.

524
00:40:43,571 --> 00:40:47,031
And it's, yeah, okay.

525
00:40:47,631 --> 00:40:48,531
Here we are.

526
00:40:50,871 --> 00:40:52,911
I don't know what to say about that, right?

527
00:40:52,991 --> 00:40:55,231
But it certainly is tragic.

528
00:40:55,231 --> 00:41:03,411
So you spend half your year in California and half your year in Texas.

529
00:41:03,411 --> 00:41:07,911
I have to assume that the summer in Texas is the part you choose to avoid?

530
00:41:09,751 --> 00:41:20,391
Well, so when I say half, we spend usually a couple of weeks each month in Texas the first two weeks and then in California the other.

531
00:41:20,391 --> 00:41:27,391
and some of the reason is it's a live working ranch.

532
00:41:27,391 --> 00:41:30,391
And so my wife can't be away that long.

533
00:41:30,391 --> 00:41:33,391
She's the only one in the family right now that can run it.

534
00:41:33,391 --> 00:41:39,391
And so there's always summer vacations.

535
00:41:39,391 --> 00:41:39,991
We take the...

536
00:41:39,997 --> 00:41:46,337
summer vacations to other places on the time that we're supposed to be in Texas in the summer.

537
00:41:47,137 --> 00:41:47,837
All right.

538
00:41:48,257 --> 00:41:55,237
But it was transformative to start spending time out there.

539
00:41:55,637 --> 00:41:56,257
It really was.

540
00:41:56,277 --> 00:41:57,457
It was a beautiful experience.

541
00:41:57,877 --> 00:42:02,417
Probably never would have written a book if I hadn't been living there for, you know,

542
00:42:02,777 --> 00:42:03,997
out there for so long.

543
00:42:05,337 --> 00:42:06,637
I might not have ever done it.

544
00:42:06,637 --> 00:42:13,017
I actually used to live in California in the Orange County location.

545
00:42:13,037 --> 00:42:13,497
Orange County, yeah.

546
00:42:13,997 --> 00:42:16,537
I live in Newport Beach, Corona Del Mar.

547
00:42:17,037 --> 00:42:17,717
Yeah, I was Newport.

548
00:42:17,717 --> 00:42:18,777
Four blocks from the beach.

549
00:42:19,437 --> 00:42:19,877
Newport, Costa Mesa.

550
00:42:19,877 --> 00:42:21,017
Right in that little village.

551
00:42:21,577 --> 00:42:22,217
Yep, yep.

552
00:42:22,217 --> 00:42:22,537
I know exactly where it is.

553
00:42:22,537 --> 00:42:24,557
We're halfway between the beach and the village.

554
00:42:24,817 --> 00:42:27,537
Across from Fashion Island, right?

555
00:42:27,977 --> 00:42:29,077
Is that the one you're talking about?

556
00:42:29,077 --> 00:42:32,277
Yeah, that's within my mile walk from here.

557
00:42:32,617 --> 00:42:34,277
Kind of catty corner or something, yeah.

558
00:42:34,277 --> 00:42:36,597
Yeah, well, that's wonderful.

559
00:42:36,637 --> 00:42:40,577
I've always, you know, honestly loved California.

560
00:42:40,897 --> 00:42:41,997
I really have.

561
00:42:42,197 --> 00:42:45,597
I just, I had to get, I had to get away.

562
00:42:46,837 --> 00:42:57,197
And so I've been in North Carolina now for what, 17, 18 years, 17 years, 18 years.

563
00:42:57,677 --> 00:42:59,237
And I love it.

564
00:42:59,297 --> 00:43:00,697
It's an interesting thing.

565
00:43:00,697 --> 00:43:13,897
One of the things I always thought was interesting is, you know, you hear quite a lot, at least in the area where you live, where I live, about the backwards, you know, southern folk.

566
00:43:15,137 --> 00:43:17,817
And you hear a lot about racism out here.

567
00:43:18,637 --> 00:43:23,717
And I have had an opposite experience.

568
00:43:23,717 --> 00:43:31,977
You know, there is definitely a lot more racial diversity here.

569
00:43:31,977 --> 00:43:32,857
Defied intention.

570
00:43:33,397 --> 00:43:33,657
Right.

571
00:43:34,057 --> 00:43:37,237
But people seem to get along and it seems to work well.

572
00:43:37,757 --> 00:43:42,297
And I don't really see, you know, blatant racism at all.

573
00:43:42,297 --> 00:44:00,117
Whereas I remember, you know, in a number of occasions we had, you know, a Latin American family move into our neighborhood and the entire HOA community and a number of the neighbors were just like, oh, you know, we got to we got to get these people out of here.

574
00:44:00,197 --> 00:44:02,617
Look at it. They're just going to do this and they're going to do that.

575
00:44:02,697 --> 00:44:06,657
And I'm like, that's just like over racism right there.

576
00:44:06,757 --> 00:44:07,417
You know what I mean?

577
00:44:08,077 --> 00:44:10,017
And I experienced a lot more of it.

578
00:44:10,017 --> 00:44:12,517
And I always thought that that would be the opposite.

579
00:44:12,877 --> 00:44:14,957
And it just has not been the case.

580
00:44:15,037 --> 00:44:17,017
And it's weird to me, you know?

581
00:44:17,757 --> 00:44:19,097
Yeah, I experienced that too.

582
00:44:19,217 --> 00:44:20,617
I mean, I've seen it in the South.

583
00:44:22,417 --> 00:44:24,557
They're more comfortable with each other.

584
00:44:25,197 --> 00:44:25,437
Yeah.

585
00:44:25,657 --> 00:44:30,037
If you went back to the 60s, whole different ballgame, right?

586
00:44:30,097 --> 00:44:31,337
No question about that.

587
00:44:32,237 --> 00:44:32,677
Right.

588
00:44:33,117 --> 00:44:33,857
Things have changed.

589
00:44:33,857 --> 00:44:37,237
So I grew up about 20 miles north of the Mexican border.

590
00:44:37,237 --> 00:44:45,117
and my family had a black doctor from the time I was like two or three years old until 20.

591
00:44:46,557 --> 00:44:53,237
So, and that doctor, he was like the, you know, my father's kind of like,

592
00:44:53,277 --> 00:44:56,697
he'd always ask him questions and stuff and get his opinion.

593
00:44:56,697 --> 00:45:00,597
And like, he was, you know, an educated, smart, sophisticated guy.

594
00:45:01,317 --> 00:45:03,817
And so I grew up with that.

595
00:45:03,817 --> 00:45:08,017
who was the attending doctor for my sister when she was born

596
00:45:08,017 --> 00:45:11,077
and my mother when she had her hysterectomy.

597
00:45:11,817 --> 00:45:18,677
I mean, it's like, you know, so between living in a border town, essentially,

598
00:45:19,617 --> 00:45:24,917
and playing sports with all of them, you know, and a black doctor,

599
00:45:25,057 --> 00:45:27,237
I've never really felt like it was much of an issue.

600
00:45:28,337 --> 00:45:31,057
Yeah, no, and I think, you know, in general,

601
00:45:31,057 --> 00:45:34,117
I think that is true of most people, to be honest with you.

602
00:45:34,517 --> 00:45:39,437
I think there's just a vocal, very, very small minority that is.

603
00:45:40,457 --> 00:45:41,877
That's my opinion of that.

604
00:45:41,997 --> 00:45:42,677
But I don't know.

605
00:45:42,757 --> 00:45:43,397
Maybe I'm wrong.

606
00:45:43,617 --> 00:45:44,037
Who knows?

607
00:45:45,757 --> 00:45:49,257
I do have a question about the ranch in Texas.

608
00:45:49,437 --> 00:45:55,597
When you have that much property that you said you couldn't even have walked the whole, you know, like managed to see all of it.

609
00:45:55,597 --> 00:46:03,357
How do you keep that from like, how do you know that somebody is not dumping a thousand tires over in the corner over here?

610
00:46:03,357 --> 00:46:08,777
Or, you know, they're setting up shop and just squatting over in the other, you know, area.

611
00:46:08,957 --> 00:46:14,197
Or how do you police that, you know, I guess for lack of a better term and manage it all?

612
00:46:15,157 --> 00:46:19,537
Well, you ever heard of the Texas gun laws about and trespassing?

613
00:46:20,437 --> 00:46:20,877
Hmm.

614
00:46:20,877 --> 00:46:27,877
If anybody's on your property, especially in the evening or the dark,

615
00:46:27,877 --> 00:46:32,877
or they shouldn't be there, you can shoot them.

616
00:46:32,877 --> 00:46:35,877
So it's a deterrent.

617
00:46:35,877 --> 00:46:49,391
It works So my wife a born and bred Texan and I couldn believe it We go driving around and she say oh don go on that road That private You know and she was like super vigilant about that

618
00:46:49,831 --> 00:46:54,051
And I realized that, you know, there's meaning there.

619
00:46:55,251 --> 00:46:55,751
Well, there is.

620
00:46:56,351 --> 00:46:58,551
Because there's some angry guys sitting out there, right?

621
00:46:58,671 --> 00:47:00,751
Just waiting for somebody to come down their road.

622
00:47:01,151 --> 00:47:07,331
I live rural North Carolina, and I will tell you that the exact same thing exists out here.

623
00:47:07,751 --> 00:47:15,751
There are private property signs at the front of people's driveways for a real reason, and they don't want you on their property.

624
00:47:16,151 --> 00:47:17,171
That's literally it.

625
00:47:17,171 --> 00:47:21,071
Or they want to be able to say that you were warned so that they don't get in trouble.

626
00:47:21,071 --> 00:47:30,051
In California, someone can invade your house, have a weapon, and you can defend yourself.

627
00:47:30,051 --> 00:47:38,211
But if you use a weapon that is measurably more powerful than theirs, they hold that against you.

628
00:47:38,331 --> 00:47:39,631
It's like you didn't have a right.

629
00:47:40,271 --> 00:47:41,611
Yeah, I got it, Alex.

630
00:47:41,671 --> 00:47:42,411
It's pretty stupid.

631
00:47:43,091 --> 00:47:45,291
I remember the important questions.

632
00:47:45,611 --> 00:47:49,271
Like, does Amazon deliver out there to a place that big or no?

633
00:47:49,471 --> 00:47:49,991
Oh, yeah, yeah.

634
00:47:50,071 --> 00:47:50,911
Well, it took a while.

635
00:47:51,831 --> 00:47:52,871
It took a while.

636
00:47:53,131 --> 00:47:57,751
Remember when Trump got mad at Amazon because they were using the post offices?

637
00:47:59,331 --> 00:47:59,811
No.

638
00:47:59,811 --> 00:48:06,131
They would go and dump stuff at the post office for these rural towns where, you know, they didn't drive around.

639
00:48:06,191 --> 00:48:07,191
But they fixed all that.

640
00:48:07,871 --> 00:48:16,631
So let me give you a slightly different perspective on the big ranch and how you police it and why you need to.

641
00:48:18,371 --> 00:48:22,171
So a cow is worth about $3,000 a piece, right?

642
00:48:22,171 --> 00:48:30,191
so and if you leave the cattle out at night and and they go into the pasture that's far away

643
00:48:30,191 --> 00:48:35,511
people can pull up a trailer take 10 head and they just got thirty thousand dollars

644
00:48:35,511 --> 00:48:42,151
so you think of what thirty thousand dollars means to you know some guy that's down on his luck

645
00:48:42,151 --> 00:48:47,671
and broke and he's got a buddy with a flatbed trailer or something like that they're gonna

646
00:48:47,671 --> 00:48:49,351
they're going to start thinking, right?

647
00:48:50,231 --> 00:48:52,971
Especially if they know that there's nobody around the ranch.

648
00:48:53,091 --> 00:48:55,771
You know, they went on vacation or they get any of that kind of word.

649
00:48:56,711 --> 00:49:00,751
It's a serious issue and has been since the beginning of time.

650
00:49:01,511 --> 00:49:05,871
But the reason it's a bigger issue in Texas than it is, say, in Missouri

651
00:49:05,871 --> 00:49:15,651
or North Carolina is because you need more than 160 acres,

652
00:49:15,651 --> 00:49:21,771
which was the original allotment for a lot of people back from the homestead act that cannot

653
00:49:21,771 --> 00:49:27,751
support a family in texas certainly in the panhandle you can't get enough you can't feed

654
00:49:27,751 --> 00:49:34,771
the cattle you can't get enough milk it's not going to work so that's why you got the smart

655
00:49:34,771 --> 00:49:39,751
guys who figured out that if they had a job and they kept they had the money coming in they could

656
00:49:39,751 --> 00:49:46,471
buy up other people's land, especially during the Dust Bowl and the Depression.

657
00:49:47,191 --> 00:49:52,511
So that period of time was a buying opportunity for anybody who had a legitimate job.

658
00:49:53,131 --> 00:49:57,691
And the great, great, great grandfather sold hay to the cavalry.

659
00:49:58,871 --> 00:50:07,591
He'd bring it from Atlanta all the way out to the Fort Sill and whatever the fort was

660
00:50:07,591 --> 00:50:08,111
in Mobidi.

661
00:50:08,111 --> 00:50:10,491
and so he had his money

662
00:50:10,491 --> 00:50:13,451
and so he had enough to buy up

663
00:50:13,451 --> 00:50:15,511
and he just lived in a dugout

664
00:50:15,511 --> 00:50:17,671
hole in the ground

665
00:50:17,671 --> 00:50:19,131
boards over the top

666
00:50:19,131 --> 00:50:20,711
that's where he lived

667
00:50:20,711 --> 00:50:22,991
as he accumulated all this land

668
00:50:22,991 --> 00:50:24,991
yeah

669
00:50:24,991 --> 00:50:25,651
there's

670
00:50:25,651 --> 00:50:27,391
it's an interesting

671
00:50:27,391 --> 00:50:30,891
it's an interesting thing

672
00:50:30,891 --> 00:50:33,251
because there are very huge ranches

673
00:50:33,251 --> 00:50:34,751
but you know in Texas again

674
00:50:34,751 --> 00:50:36,871
you need way more land to support

675
00:50:36,871 --> 00:50:43,531
cattle, right? And so that is, it is an interesting thing. I was actually looking into this

676
00:50:43,531 --> 00:50:48,891
a few months ago is the cattle rustling, not only is alive and well, but is actually,

677
00:50:48,891 --> 00:50:55,931
I think in the last couple of years increased in, in frequency in Texas, which you, you just,

678
00:50:56,671 --> 00:51:03,191
you know, you think, gosh, that is, you know, old stuff. People still do this, you know,

679
00:51:03,191 --> 00:51:05,171
and it's crazy to me, you know?

680
00:51:05,591 --> 00:51:10,731
The easiest thing to steal in today's world is cattle and oil.

681
00:51:12,871 --> 00:51:13,511
Yeah.

682
00:51:14,931 --> 00:51:17,091
Yeah, I could imagine so.

683
00:51:17,951 --> 00:51:21,911
So this ranch is, remember the name T. Boone Pickens?

684
00:51:22,431 --> 00:51:22,671
Mm-hmm.

685
00:51:22,871 --> 00:51:23,311
You do.

686
00:51:23,531 --> 00:51:24,871
Do you, Alex?

687
00:51:25,811 --> 00:51:26,251
No.

688
00:51:26,911 --> 00:51:28,991
So his ranch is next to our ranch.

689
00:51:29,551 --> 00:51:30,011
Oh, wow.

690
00:51:30,071 --> 00:51:30,191
Okay.

691
00:51:30,591 --> 00:51:31,171
Very cool.

692
00:51:31,711 --> 00:51:32,951
That is pretty cool.

693
00:51:33,191 --> 00:51:35,151
That's an interesting thing.

694
00:51:36,151 --> 00:51:36,551
Well, hey.

695
00:51:36,551 --> 00:51:39,871
Then I got stuff like in my mind, like thinking about like property taxes and stuff.

696
00:51:39,971 --> 00:51:51,066
I don even know how that works But that why it got to yeah everybody nobody realizes yeah there no state tax but the property tax is like six seven eight times what it is in California

697
00:51:51,726 --> 00:51:52,846
You know, you pay it.

698
00:51:53,446 --> 00:51:55,686
But the land produces money.

699
00:51:56,206 --> 00:51:58,646
The land you have in California, you live in.

700
00:51:59,406 --> 00:52:01,186
You know, you don't, you hardly ever use it.

701
00:52:01,346 --> 00:52:03,946
You know, it doesn't quite, the economics don't quite work.

702
00:52:04,926 --> 00:52:06,026
Plus fresh beef.

703
00:52:06,466 --> 00:52:07,906
Everybody loves fresh beef.

704
00:52:08,906 --> 00:52:09,886
I do.

705
00:52:09,886 --> 00:52:17,986
and milk, fresh milk, raw milk. Yummy. We did an episode on that, but I think it's probably a

706
00:52:17,986 --> 00:52:22,286
great place to start wrapping up. And one of the questions we really like to ask our guests is

707
00:52:22,286 --> 00:52:29,466
throughout our lives, there's a figure that has a lasting and meaningful impact. Could be an author,

708
00:52:30,026 --> 00:52:36,206
historical figure, could be sixth grade science teacher or mom. Who would you like to give back

709
00:52:36,206 --> 00:52:43,166
and shout out to? Well, I had a really good professor. I had a really good, and I was a

710
00:52:43,166 --> 00:52:49,346
pretty good athlete and I had some coaches that were fantastic. So I could pick any number of them.

711
00:52:49,346 --> 00:53:04,206
So I'll pick one. So Earl Trutman was my little league baseball coach and his son was in the same

712
00:53:04,206 --> 00:53:11,266
great as me. And I didn't really care for his son, but I really liked him and I liked his wife

713
00:53:11,266 --> 00:53:18,906
and I liked their family. And the older daughter was a character. And then they had a younger,

714
00:53:19,146 --> 00:53:25,246
younger boy. And so I spent a lot of time over there with him and he took care of me and kind

715
00:53:25,246 --> 00:53:33,046
of like helped me along. He was the captain of the fire department in the town that I grew up in.

716
00:53:33,046 --> 00:53:44,806
and uh his so there's a character in the book which is um his wife and the family

717
00:53:44,806 --> 00:53:50,626
the nature of the family so i couldn't quite fit him in in a way that didn't seem like i was

718
00:53:50,626 --> 00:53:59,786
shoe warning but this just the the feeling of his wife and the the uh how she created no you know

719
00:53:59,786 --> 00:54:02,526
on a very little salary.

720
00:54:02,686 --> 00:54:05,126
I mean, you know, fire people, fire guys don't make a lot of money.

721
00:54:05,966 --> 00:54:09,286
She made that house into a place that was just a wonderful place to be.

722
00:54:10,766 --> 00:54:15,546
And that's what this kid aspires to, and he achieves it.

723
00:54:16,186 --> 00:54:19,206
First, he experiences it with his sergeant.

724
00:54:19,826 --> 00:54:25,286
They form a relationship, and so he gets over to the house during COVID.

725
00:54:25,926 --> 00:54:27,366
Everything kind of shuts down,

726
00:54:27,366 --> 00:54:31,426
And so, you know, they kind of invite him into his home and he gets to experience it.

727
00:54:32,306 --> 00:54:36,386
So I figure that's pretty important.

728
00:54:37,126 --> 00:54:37,826
That's a great one.

729
00:54:38,506 --> 00:54:43,546
Personally, you know, one of mine is my sixth grade science teacher, Mrs. Bethke.

730
00:54:44,026 --> 00:54:47,966
But hey, so where can people find you?

731
00:54:48,086 --> 00:54:49,386
What are you working on next?

732
00:54:49,486 --> 00:54:50,506
What do you have going on?

733
00:54:50,506 --> 00:54:54,526
And where is the best place to purchase your book?

734
00:54:54,526 --> 00:55:08,626
okay so um the the segue that we missed was the constitution so i pretty much have this character

735
00:55:08,626 --> 00:55:16,046
making decisions which are consistent with the top four five six uh constitutional values

736
00:55:16,046 --> 00:55:23,466
okay and emanate from it kind of you know without a whole lot of conscious thought for it

737
00:55:23,466 --> 00:55:35,826
And then I realized that there's the Constitution, which is the bedrock of America, and everything above it is politics.

738
00:55:37,346 --> 00:55:37,726
Okay?

739
00:55:37,946 --> 00:55:41,606
There's no room for argument about the Constitution.

740
00:55:41,966 --> 00:55:47,606
Now, we've made provisions so we can tweak it, but you've got to have 60% vote.

741
00:55:48,606 --> 00:55:51,646
So, you know, I think it's actually 66% or something.

742
00:55:51,646 --> 00:56:00,866
It's almost impossible to get. So it is what it is. And all the stuff that we're taking

743
00:56:00,866 --> 00:56:08,866
into consideration with all these different voices and ethnic groups and gender groups

744
00:56:08,866 --> 00:56:18,106
and all that stuff, that's politics. So to help, but the Constitution is pretty boring for a lot

745
00:56:18,106 --> 00:56:23,446
of people to read. They're never going to read it. Nobody's figured out a way to have a constitutional

746
00:56:23,446 --> 00:56:33,146
program that would enliven the experience of learning about it. So it stays in the background

747
00:56:33,146 --> 00:56:38,826
and everybody will say, yeah, the Constitution, but they don't know what part they're already

748
00:56:38,826 --> 00:56:53,460
living and they don know what they not doing that they could be doing in the Constitution So with the advent of AI my grandson and I built an application

749
00:56:53,780 --> 00:57:01,680
a mobile phone AI app that you can point to any civic, any public official.

750
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,340
It can be a candidate.

751
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:06,560
It can be a mayor.

752
00:57:07,140 --> 00:57:08,620
It could be the mayor of a town.

753
00:57:08,700 --> 00:57:10,320
It could be the school superintendent.

754
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:22,020
it any public official any public institution and it will the ai does the research in 30 seconds 40

755
00:57:22,020 --> 00:57:31,500
seconds of how aligned are they with the constitutional values okay then it gives a score

756
00:57:31,500 --> 00:57:39,100
and then it gives four or five reasons on why that score and then it creates a card

757
00:57:39,100 --> 00:57:43,100
with the picture, the title, the score, the reasons,

758
00:57:44,100 --> 00:57:49,940
and it enables you to either send it, that card, via email

759
00:57:49,940 --> 00:57:52,280
on an email distribution list,

760
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:56,800
or to post it, you know, on your, you know,

761
00:57:56,820 --> 00:58:00,760
posted from your social media to your contacts.

762
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:02,360
That's simple.

763
00:58:03,180 --> 00:58:04,360
And where is this?

764
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,680
How does someone find this?

765
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:07,920
It's called the Liberty Scorecard.

766
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:08,820
Okay.

767
00:58:09,100 --> 00:58:13,740
And if you want, I'll send you a link afterwards.

768
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:17,700
There's a free trial period.

769
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:23,480
And then you can go and be an advocate if you want to advocate for somebody.

770
00:58:23,620 --> 00:58:26,580
You get like 10 or 20 cards you get to produce.

771
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,980
But then you can do it with an unlimited number of people.

772
00:58:30,620 --> 00:58:32,500
And then there's a pro level.

773
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:38,620
But it's like $9 a year because, you know, it's not an app that you use all the time.

774
00:58:38,620 --> 00:58:43,380
Anyway, and the book, well, the thing's taken off.

775
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,400
Like I told you, we got that world-class distributor,

776
00:58:47,180 --> 00:58:51,920
and then we got the company that does the 100,000 stores.

777
00:58:52,900 --> 00:58:56,480
We got 100 books in the libraries.

778
00:58:57,060 --> 00:59:03,120
Getting in libraries is important because it's like they're influencers

779
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:08,500
in what's considered a good book because they don't do all the page turner stuff.

780
00:59:08,620 --> 00:59:10,560
It's got to have more to it than that.

781
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:17,340
But, you know, so Amazon, of course, it's got a 4.5 rating.

782
00:59:17,980 --> 00:59:20,200
We've been bestseller there three times.

783
00:59:21,140 --> 00:59:23,660
We're not well-known enough that we can stay there,

784
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,780
but we do a little campaign and it goes up.

785
00:59:26,300 --> 00:59:28,980
We do another campaign, it goes up, and you got to push it.

786
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:33,980
But when it's out in the stores, we'll start getting a lot.

787
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:36,880
Okay, so best place to buy it?

788
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:37,900
So Amazon's the best place to go.

789
00:59:37,900 --> 00:59:44,060
You can also go to lifeinwokeamerica.com.

790
00:59:44,780 --> 00:59:45,380
Perfect.

791
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:45,860
Okay.

792
00:59:45,940 --> 00:59:48,500
And what about if someone wanted to reach out to you?

793
00:59:48,660 --> 00:59:53,280
Is there a social media or, you know, an info?

794
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:54,580
Yep.

795
00:59:54,960 --> 01:00:00,520
So the easiest thing I think is Joel Rako at lifeinwokeamerica.com.

796
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,160
But there's also, this is a little tricky,

797
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:10,360
at, on X, at, in Woke America.

798
01:00:10,860 --> 01:00:13,500
You know, a little at sign, in Woke America.

799
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:20,420
We do a lot of work there, and on Facebook, and LinkedIn.

800
01:00:20,980 --> 01:00:23,840
And I have about 15,000 followers.

801
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:26,180
Wonderful, wonderful.

802
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,840
So, for your show, we'll definitely, we'll promote this.

803
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:31,000
We'll help you out.

804
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:36,540
Well, we will do the same and thank you for that. I appreciate it. It's good to hear.

805
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,000
Yeah, it's a great thing.

806
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:48,260
All right. Well, thank you so very much for giving us some of your time. It is our most precious commodity and thank you for giving us some of your time as well.

807
01:00:48,980 --> 01:00:57,020
You know where you can find us? We're everywhere podcasts play. We're also on YouTube, X, Noster, now on Instagram as well.

808
01:00:57,020 --> 01:00:59,800
and if you look for us, you'll find us.

809
01:00:59,860 --> 01:01:00,900
You can do a Google search.

810
01:01:01,020 --> 01:01:02,720
Find us at spacetomatoes.net.

811
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,620
You name it, you can find us.

812
01:01:06,660 --> 01:01:07,260
And remember...

813
01:01:07,260 --> 01:01:07,520
Fountain FM.

814
01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:08,540
What's that?

815
01:01:09,340 --> 01:01:09,700
Fountain.

816
01:01:09,900 --> 01:01:12,420
Oh, yeah, and we're hosted off Fountain.fm.

817
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:14,000
Wonderful platform.

818
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:15,980
Oh, good, good.

819
01:01:16,100 --> 01:01:19,320
And remember, wherever you are,

820
01:01:20,220 --> 01:01:21,540
whenever you're watching this,

821
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:23,480
have an amazing day.

822
01:01:24,180 --> 01:01:24,580
Okay.

823
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:26,440
Thanks for stopping by, Joe.

824
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,940
see you okay my pleasure i enjoyed it