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Nov. 24, 2022

Demonically Controlled Granddaughter

Recently, I had a request from a follower - I will call Ann - about handling her granddaughter, who seems heavily demonically oppressed. Sadly, Satan deceives, influences, and sometimes even controls those closest to us. I will discuss this problem...

Recently, I had a request from a follower - I will call Ann - about handling her granddaughter, who seems heavily demonically oppressed. Sadly, Satan deceives, influences, and sometimes even controls those closest to us. I will discuss this problem and give biblical solutions that work.

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Dr. Ray Self is the founder of Spirit Wind Ministries Inc. and the International College of Ministry. He holds a Doctorate in Christian Psychology and a Doctorate in Theology. He currently resides in Winter Park, Florida. He is married to Dr. Christie Self and has three sons and a daughter.

 

Transcript

Hello and welcome to Self Talk. I'm your host, Dr. Ray self. Thank you for listening to this show. This is a show where I want to talk to you about your challenging personal issues and give you real hope and healing. This is a show that exposes the enemy's schemes against your life. Satan has an evil plan to destroy you and it will manifest in many ways. I will teach you how to overcome.

 

Now please, email me with your questions and topics and anything you want me to talk about in my show at drrayself@gmail.com. d-r-r-a-y-s-e-l-f  at gmail.com God bless you and thank you for listening.

 

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Hey, welcome to Self Talk. I'm your host Dr Ray Self. This is a show that's going to expose the schemes of the enemy and help you get free.

 

So I had a call the other day from a lady, you know, I will call Ann and she brought up an interesting problem that I want to talk about today and by the way, as I'm doing this I feel very convicted. I really want to help you so email me if you have a a problem you want me to talk about; a topic you want me to talk about. Maybe a personal issue and I won't use your name and embarrass you but we'll talk about the issue on the podcast and give you some hope. Do that at drrayself@gmail.com. D-r-r-a-y-s-e-l-f at gmail.com.

 

So, Ann called and she said I'm worried about my granddaughter. Now Ann is a Holy Spirit-filled Christian, you know, wonderful lady, and I said what's, what's the issue? And she said “every time I go over to her house she begins to manifest in some very strange ways and she literally avoids me at all cost. It was like I feel this demonic presence about her and I cannot even get close to her. I don't know how to handle this.” And so I want to talk about that.

 

There's a principle here that I've seen happen so many times in my walk with the Lord. If you have the Holy Spirit within you, and I pray that you do, there can be a conflict with people who do not have the Holy Spirit and it's just uh, it's something that's not said, it's something that is not easily recognized but I've run across this many times in my life just being around people. I don't say anything to them, don't do anything particular one way or the other but there's, a there's a conflict between us and it used to hurt my feelings. I used to be concerned like what's wrong with me? And what the Lord began to show me was that the Spirit in me Is In conflict with the spirit is within them and it is a natural, it's a natural conflict.

 

So then I pray that everyone listening to the show that you are filled with the Holy Spirit. Kind of on a side note, I've been in a little internet debate with a, a pastor who's uh, talking about receiving the Holy Spirit at salvation which is true. When we do receive the Holy Spirit at salvation, salvation is a work of the holy spirit it's where the Holy Spirit regenerates us justifies us, redeems us, adopts us and does amazing things. But there's something else the Holy Spirit wants to do and that is empower us which is the baptism of the Holy Spirit. That's a whole other topic; I actually have a show about that I just did a week or two ago.

 

But when you are filled with the Holy Spirit, you can come into conflict with other people. Without saying a word, just by being in their presence, I've noticed that people sometimes, just- I can tell they just don't like me. They want nothing to do with me and I haven't even said anything to them. I'm just in the room with them. Or what I run across is sometimes I'm in a room with people who are not Holy Spirit filled and there's just a- they don't know what to do with me. They don't know how to interact with me, they don't know how to relate to me. Therefore, they don't and sometimes that's, that's painful, especially when it's family members.

 

But back to the situation with Anne. So hers is more extreme. She goes over and her teenage granddaughter immediately begins to manifest which to me is showing behavior that is abnormally bad, abnormally unhealthy, abnormally dysfunctional, so much so that Anne senses there's something demonic going on here. Now most likely, her granddaughter has opened up some doors and the devil is oppressing her. Now I don't believe she's possessed; I do believe her granddaughter is probably oppressed which many people are and so this oppression and these spirits that are hurting her granddaughter are causing her granddaughter to flee, and avoid, and at all cost.

 

So what do you do? Well, it is a spiritual warfare issue. It is definitely a spiritual warfare issue. You know, the bible made it very clear that we battle not against flesh and blood, you know, our battle’s against spirits and forces in Heavenly places and so what I recommend is before and, before you go over to the home where your granddaughter lives, you begin to pray. Now there's two types of prayer. There's prayer when you're petitioning God to do something which is always wonderful and at the same time we should be listening to God's response- very critical that we don't do all the talking; that we actually listen to God when we pray. Prayer should be a conversation. And then there is taking authority by beginning to proclaim what the Lord puts in your spirit through prayer and that proclamation is taking the authority that's been invested in you by, by God.

 

So if it were my granddaughter, I would do something like this; before I went to see her I would say “Lord, in the name of Jesus Christ” - let's call her, let's call it, the granddaughter Marie - “Lord in the name of Jesus Christ I come to you and I lift up Marie to you. I thank you Father for my beautiful granddaughter. I thank you Lord for the promises in your word that no weapon formed against us can prosper. Father, in the name of Jesus Christ I ask for the Holy Spirit right now to fall upon Marie and to soften her heart and to protect her and to begin to prepare her, Father, for what you have for her. Holy Spirit, in the Name of Jesus Christ, touch my granddaughter Marie. Touch her now. Come upon her now. Come upon her, Father. In the name of Jesus Christ I rebuke and renounce every assignment against my granddaughter. Lord I ask you to forgive her for anything she's done that has opened up doors, opened up avenues and given an opportunity for the devil to harass her. Holy Spirit come. Come upon her. Convict Marie, Father, in the name of Jesus Christ prepare the way, Lord. Thank you Jesus. I praise you Father. Thank you Jesus. So Lord, I believe, Father, that you're touching Marie and I believe you're preparing a way now, Holy Spirit. In the name of Jesus Christ put your words in my mouth. Anoint me for this time as I go in and I submit this all to you Lord. I submit everything to you Lord in the name of Jesus Christ. That I am prepared. That I have the anointing to set at liberty those that are captive including my granddaughter Marie because the Spirit of the Lord God's upon me and no weapon formed against me will prosper so Father, prepare the way. I ask you to prepare the way in the name of Jesus Christ. Prepare the way now. Prepare the way Father. Satan, you cannot have Marie. You cannot have my granddaughter. You cannot touch her. Get away from her, get off of her. Get out of her mind, get out of her body get, away from her, get out of that house in Jesus name. Amen.”

 

And uh, you know, when you pray, prayer should be Holy Spirit led. You pray as the Holy Spirit leads you. And it's interesting; you know, as I was praying for Marie, I kept getting these thoughts and ideas coming into my head about how to pray for her. So what I'm saying to you Ann, is - on your granddaughter Marie - is, do your Warfare before you go to see her. And the Lord is amazing and the Holy Spirit is amazing about preparing a way for us. Preparing a way and changing the atmosphere. And you know, Satan is trying to take this child captive and you know, maybe she has cooperated. Maybe she has inadvertently done things, maybe she’s just openly rebellious. 

 

But the Spirit of the Lord can convict this woman. This- is- the girl, we'll call her Marie. The Spirit of the Lord convicts us of unrighteousness. Now listen to me. Everybody who's listening to this podcast. How many times has the Holy Spirit convicted you? Remember what you were like before you were saved? Before you were filled with the Holy Spirit? Remember what the Holy Spirit did for you? How He changed you? I remember how the Holy Spirit changed me. I remember the, the, the complete dramatic makeover that God did for me so He can also do it for Marie. Marie's mind needs to be renewed. Her thoughts need to be renewed but the Holy Spirit can convict even the worst sinner of their sin and bring them into the forgiveness, the beautiful forgiveness of our Lord and our Savior Jesus Christ.

 

So yeah, is that a tough situation? Absolutely. The key thing. Another key thing;  well, two key points. One is package your words; package your words with the leading of the Holy Spirit. You only want to speak what the Lord is telling you to speak. Another critical thing is watch your timing. The Lord will also give you a sense of timing. Most people, no matter how dark they are, they have moments where they're more open to receive than other moments, so timing to speak to your granddaughter is going to be critical. Another thing is love. Love, love, love, love. People tend to receive from people they know who love them. If you, if you go with guns blazing and spiritual warfare and proclaiming all this truth over your granddaughter but you did not bathe it with love and concern, even though you're speaking the truth and you're speaking God's word. Because if it's not done with love- with this- bathed in the love of God, it's just not going to be received. 

 

There's an old expression that's called care before correction. So the love and concern and care is the most critical thing and that's going to soften the ground and I think as I'm thinking about Marie, the main thing is we want to soften the ground. We want for the Holy Spirit to begin to soften her mind and break down the barriers with her. I do believe also Marie needs counseling, not just spiritual warfare, you know. What are the wounds? Where are the hurts? What are the beliefs that she's believing that’s drawing her into these dark spiritual places?

 

Every human being has a spiritual hunger. We are born with a spiritual hunger. We're created with a hole that can only be filled by God however, because of our flesh and the perversions of this world, so many people try to fill that spiritual void with counterfeit things. You see this throughout our society with all the media emphasis in Hollywood. Emphasis on witchcraft and Wicca and New Age and all these mystical forces that are all over the place that are, and matter of fact, I was just reading an article recently on how witchcraft is fastly rising. People are fascinated with the occult and they have found out that there is some mystical power in the occultic type stuff and the reason people are drawn to that is because everybody has a spiritual hunger and if that spiritual hunger is not satisfied with God, with the Holy Spirit, you're going to be drawn to unhealthy deadly things and Satan is having a field day with that.

 

So Marie; your granddaughter’s spiritual hunger needs to be satisfied with the Holy Spirit and not these other spirits but again as a counselor I would say this young girl is wounded. This young girl is wounded and this woundedness has caused her to have some strange beliefs. And it's amazing what young people believe when you get into their mind and you see what they're thinking and what they're perceiving. 

 

So many times young people perceive through what I call filters. A filter is something that kind of goes over our ears that filters the truth from us and twists the truth from us. There is a demon that we call Leviathan and Leviathan is a twisting- some people think he was an ancient crocodile. But with the way crocodiles kill their prey is they twist, they twist, and twist. What the Leviathan spirit does is they twist things; so your granddaughter may be hearing things in a twisted format. In other words, she's- what she's perceiving and hearing into her spirit is twisted. It's not the actual truth but is- it is her perception of the truth which is twisted and this has probably caused her a lot of pain.

 

 I do sense in the Spirit that Marie has the call of God on her life and the Holy Spirit really is after her and I think Satan knows this and is schemed against her. I think the scheme, what the holy spirit is showing me, is that the scheme against her is the scheme of rebellion and that is a demonic scheme. Now if you’ve listen to this show for any length of time you'll know that a scheme is a systematic plan of destruction that Satan has for almost all Christians and schemes can be things like rejection, fear, abandonment, illegitimacy, unworthiness, all kinds of stuff. Rebellion. And so there is a scheme against this young lady and that too can be broken. So prayer, proclamation taking authority, spiritual warfare bathed in love, love, love, love, and hopefully she will get help with a good Holy Spirit-filled Christian counselor.

 

So Ann, I hope this has helped you and I hope this has given some answers and Marie; let's pray for Marie right now. Father, I thank you for Marie, this teenager, that Satan cannot have her, Father. You're stronger than any work of the devil so Father, in the name of Jesus Christ, we believe that the Holy Spirit is touching Marie right now, convicting her, changing her, protecting her and renewing her might and we believe that and we stand on that. And Lord show Ann. Give her your words, your thoughts, your timing, your anointing, to set at liberty her granddaughter who's held captive. You said the spirit of Lord God's upon us to sit at liberty those who are captive and I thank you Father that this young teenage girl will remain captive no more in Jesus name. In Jesus name.

 

So folks, I guess what I'm trying to tell you today with this show is I'm changing my show up. I want you to tell me what you want me to talk about. Now I don't claim to be anything special, I'm just a child of God like you. I'm very blessed to have a a doctorate in theology and a doctorate in Christian psychology. I've been ministering for many years, I've counseled for many years, I am a spiritual Warrior. I'm a former pastor, teacher and I believe this qualifies me to help minister to you so what I want to do is interact more with you and you tell me what it is you need and what it is I can do through this show to help you out, okay?

 

Thank you so much for listening, this has been a great time and I just pray for everyone listening to this show that the Spirit of the Lord will touch you, guide you, and protect you all for the glory of our Savior Jesus Christ. Amen. Thanks a lot. God bless you. Bye-bye

 

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