Ty Haney's Bold Outdoor Voices Revival | Fast Five Shorts
She's back! In this segment from the Omni Talk Retail Fast Five, sponsored by the A&M Consumer and Retail Group, Simbe, Mirakl, Infios, Clear Demand, and Ocampo Capital, Chris and Anne dive into Ty Haney's dramatic return to Outdoor Voices with a "confident, bold, and sexy" rebrand.
From wiping Instagram clean to positioning the brand as the "uniform for doing things," is this founder comeback genuine innovation or just marketing spectacle? Plus, learn when it's the right time to bring back a founder and when it's time to move on.
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00:00 - Untitled
00:06 - The Relaunch of Outdoor Voices
01:23 - The Future of Outdoor Voices: Leadership and Brand Identity
03:33 - Evaluating Leadership in a Competitive Market
04:30 - The Challenges of Business Leadership in Fashion
06:37 - Reevaluating Brand Strategies
06:54 - Exploring New Fashion Trends in Activewear
Tai Haney is back at Outdoor Voices, relaunching the activewear brand with a confident, bold and sexy look.
Speaker AAccording to Glossy Tai Haney is officially back at Outdoor Voices after a four year absence, bringing a fresh, confident, bold and sexy vision to the activewear brand she originally founded in 2013.
Speaker AConsumer brand investment firm Consortium Brand Partners acquired outdoor voices in June 2024 and specifically wanted Heney to return as founder, partner and co co owner to lead the brand's revival.
Speaker AThe relaunch kicked off with dramatic social media fanfare as Outdoor Voices wiped its Instagram grid clean and followed just one person, Haney herself.
Speaker AThe first product drops will be a limited edition diamante adorned sweatshirt reading Doing Things.
Speaker AYeah, aren't we all?
Speaker AThe brand is positioning itself as the quote, uniform for doing things, expanding beyond pure athletic functionality, and the design philosophy now embraces what Haney calls an intersection between designer and activewear with elevated details typically reserved for high end fashion.
Speaker AAnd Tai Haney coming back to Outdoor Voices sounds a little Messiah ish to me if I got to be honest.
Speaker ABut this is also our Put you on the spot question, our A and M Put yout on the Spot Question of the week.
Speaker ASo here it is.
Speaker ABringing back Haney as the OG Outdoor Voice in quotes could reignite the brand's magic and thinking about whether this will work for the brand.
Speaker AWhen is a founder still the right leader years into a brand's journey?
Speaker AAnd how do you know when it's time to hand the reins to new leadership as Outdoor Voices may have done prematurely?
Speaker BOh, I mean, wouldn't we all be wealthy if we knew exactly when the right time was to get rid of the founder and bring in some new leadership.
Speaker BI mean, I think that Outdoor Voices, I think missed out.
Speaker BI think as as A and M suggest, Outdoor Voices released Ty Haney prematurely as a brand that is, you know, originally direct to consumer and is really based on the influence of one person being Ty herself.
Speaker BI think that the future of Outdoor Voices and whether or not this will be successful really depends on who the demo is that's going to latch onto this brand.
Speaker BI mean, if it's millennials from their early days in 2020 when they were, you know, really thriving as a brand, maybe this is enough to get them to come back, but I worry about whether or not that's going to be enough to sustain the brand.
Speaker BBecause I think if you look at this younger demographic, you look at, you know, Gen Z and Gen Alpha, I don't know that Ty Haney means anything to them.
Speaker BI don't know that her coming back is really going to, to bring the following that Outdoor Voices saw in previous years.
Speaker BSo I mean, to answer A&M's question, I think know it was not the time to release her.
Speaker BThey were still doing well.
Speaker BThey probably should have managed this better from who's doing the merchandising, who's in charge of the store launch plans and store openings and that kind of thing versus, you know, versus putting, putting her in charge of that.
Speaker BAnd her real talent is leading the concepting, the design, the, you know, the, the social commerce element of this, as she's done clearly with her other two brands that she's also still a part of Jog, the energy drink and her loyalty business that she spun up.
Speaker BSo I think she's a really smart individual.
Speaker BThey let her go too soon.
Speaker BCan she bring awareness back to this brand in a very crowded athleisure space?
Speaker BVerdict still out for me.
Speaker BBut what about you?
Speaker BWhat do you think?
Speaker BI mean, do you think that you can, you know, when is it time to let go of the founder, Chris?
Speaker AYeah, well, I do think you can be smart about how you evaluate that 100%.
Speaker AI mean, I think to me it's, it's, it comes down to two things.
Speaker AIt's based on the results that you're seeing and the cultural assessment of the organization with which that that person is leading.
Speaker AYou know, and I look back at what happened, I would disagree a little bit that they got rid of her too soon.
Speaker AI think they're just bringing her back.
Speaker AI mean, they got, they got rid of her for, you know, some good reasons.
Speaker ALike they, they tried to grow too fast.
Speaker AThey built all these stores out.
Speaker AThey didn't end up working.
Speaker AThey've shut them all down and now the business is online only.
Speaker AI also get a little worried too when I hear, when I hear people say like, you know, she is the business.
Speaker AWell, if she's the business, then it's not a business because it doesn't work with her when she leaves.
Speaker AAnd a business needs to work whether the people are there or not, ultimately.
Speaker ANow, I know in fashion that can be a little, a little bit tricky thing, but then it gets into what are, what is that person tasked to do?
Speaker AShould be she be tasked to lead up the marketing and the creative product design?
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AShould be she be tasked with leading the business?
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker ASo, so that's the thing.
Speaker AAnd so I'm for that reason, because it's unclear how this is going to work.
Speaker AI'm A little skeptical of the headline and as it sounds like you are too, because one, the space is so oversaturated right now compared to where it was 10 years ago when the DTC money was just flowing rapidly into this space and she left the first time.
Speaker ASo, you know, why is the second time going to be any better?
Speaker AIt's not like Steve Jobs coming to resurrect Apple.
Speaker AApple was uber successful already at one point.
Speaker AOutdoor Voices was was it successful or was it just riding the DTC curve and the athleisure trend curve at the same time?
Speaker ASo, so that is.
Speaker AThose are the questions that I have outstanding for me right now.
Speaker AAnd you know, the ego, the one thing I do like is I like the ego of the social media move.
Speaker ALike, I think that is pure baller to try to do that.
Speaker ABut by the same token, it potentially pisses off a lot of people too, because there's a.
Speaker AProbably a lot of people are like, oh, now I just like this brand and now you've unfollowed me because you're so cool.
Speaker ABut, you know, so you're going to alienate some but net I net net.
Speaker AI think I like that move.
Speaker AAnd, but that's the only saving grace from this.
Speaker AI think that's a cool marketing tactic that they deployed.
Speaker BYeah, I think there's more to the story and like we always say on the show, you got to follow the money.
Speaker BI wouldn't be surprised if there were ties from this investment group to other things that she has going on.
Speaker BAnd they're like, well, since we're going to do a deal for Draghi or your leader, you know, like your loyalty app or something like me, could you, would you come back and we try to bring this brand back, you know, Outdoor Voices and could you be, you know, the face of this brand again so that we can try to see if you still have name recognition and value to acquire new customers and more customers.
Speaker BBut I don't know, I think she could have been much better off starting an entirely new.
Speaker BI think if you're going to scrap and start from the beginning with your Outdoor Voices followers, I think you could have done a much better job just going off and doing something entirely new, especially with the product line too.
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker AThat was the point.
Speaker AThat was, that was the other point I had that I was going to bring up, which I'm glad you did, which is like, if, if, if you're really that good, why don't you just start this up on your own without all the legacy.
Speaker ALike, you've already shut the stores down.
Speaker AYou're DTC only.
Speaker AWhat do you get at this point?
Speaker AYou know, why don't you go into the space on your own and start over?
Speaker BYou get elevated dresser dresses between designer and activewear Chris that you can wear while you're swinging nunchucks around.
Speaker AI can be cool, confident, and sexy or whatever it is.
Speaker AWhatever.
Speaker BBold, confident and sexy with your nunchucks.
Speaker BGo check out.
Speaker BI love that the photo shoot included a woman swinging nunchucks around.
Speaker BI want to know where I can get my hands on some as part of my designer slash activewear apparel.