Starbucks Tests ChatGPT Ordering But Is It Worth It? | Fast Five Shorts
This Omni Talk Retail Fast Five segment explores Starbucks’ new ChatGPT-powered drink discovery experience and whether it actually improves the customer journey.
Chris Walton and Ben Miller debate if this is meaningful innovation or just experimentation, and question whether AI integrations like this solve real problems or create unnecessary complexity.
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Starbucks has launched a beta app within ChatGPT.
Speaker AIt allows customers to describe their mood or upload a photo to receive personalized drink suggestions and then customize and then begin the order in ChatGPT before completing checkout in the Starbucks app or on starbucks.com so, according to Starbucks, the beta app launched on April 15 and is accessible by enabling it through ChatGPT's App Directory and then tagging at Starbucks in a prompt.
Speaker ACritically, as I just said, checkout does not happen within ChatGPT.
Speaker ACustomers complete the purchase in a Starbucks app on Starbucks.com, which means Starbucks retains all the first party loyalty data and it keeps the transaction in its own ecosystem.
Speaker AAnd Chris.
Speaker AYes, here we go.
Speaker AThis is also A and M. I.
Speaker BLove what the guest horse puts me on the spot.
Speaker AYes, I've been waiting to do this.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AThe A and M put you on stock question.
Speaker ASo firstly, they've asked me to imagine that I'm not in a coffee shop.
Speaker AI'm in a tea store, a very British tea shop, to play into the full British.
Speaker BThat sounds like A and M to me.
Speaker ASo thank you, Chad.
Speaker AOkay, here we go.
Speaker AGiven the high usage and historical praise of Starbucks mobile app, are these ChatGPT and other agentic AI integrations a more offensive or defensive play?
Speaker ASo look, in other words, do Starbucks and other brands believe that consumers truly are looking for more inspiration and discovery when they're on the AI platform compared to when they're on the apps?
Speaker ATherefore, it's incremental or.
Speaker AOr keep going.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker AOr the customer journeys will eventually go direct to the apps less in favor of these platforms.
Speaker ASo they'll have to integrate everything to avoid losing traffic.
Speaker BOh, my God.
Speaker AThat.
Speaker AJeez.
Speaker BOh, my God.
Speaker BI took, you know, I've been taking a lot of grief from some folks that I know pretty well about my takes on agentic AI lately, Ben.
Speaker BLike, I had a friend of mine who I respect a lot.
Speaker BHe told me, and he works for a data company, which I won't say who they are.
Speaker BI won't say his name either.
Speaker BBut he said his, his.
Speaker BHis boss called him and said, dude, they're Walton's totally wrong on his takes.
Speaker BSo I don't know what I'm missing here because I don't like this move, Ben.
Speaker BI think that's my answer to the question.
Speaker BAnd you know, especially if I was lauding so Starbucks last week for their weekly pay and they're increasing their barista bonuses.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker ASo good.
Speaker ASo good.
Speaker BAnd so this move smells of.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BI Think it's important to put it in context.
Speaker BThis move smells to me of tech teams not being aligned to the business problems and kind of chasing the shiny tech that's out there.
Speaker BI don't like it because of all the reasons I've expressed on past shows.
Speaker BAnd which gets to the heart of the question that A and M is asking, which is, does the consumer really need this inside of a Chat GPT experience or some other LLM experience?
Speaker BI don't think so.
Speaker BYou could ultimately do that in the Starbucks app.
Speaker BSo I don't get why the traffic is necessarily gonna go here to do this.
Speaker BSo it begs the question, me, why, why now?
Speaker BWhy do you need to do this?
Speaker BIt's not make or break for you, Starbucks, at this point in time, why be the first penguin in the water?
Speaker BThat's the reason.
Speaker BI don't like it.
Speaker AInteresting interest.
Speaker AI mean, look, in principle, I don't.
Speaker AI don't disagree.
Speaker AYeah, I don't entirely agree.
Speaker AI mean.
Speaker BYeah, no, it's fine.
Speaker BI don't know what I think anymore.
Speaker ALook, I mean, look at the bear numbers.
Speaker AThere's 800 million people on ChatGPT every week.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ASo it's really hard to walk away from that.
Speaker ALevels of eyeballs, that level of traffic.
Speaker AAnd Agent E Commerce, we've already hit one of the really big talking points in our industry.
Speaker AAgent E Commerce is another one.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd what became super clear in Vegas is we don't know what the end game is going to be.
Speaker ANobody knows what the end game is.
Speaker AOne thing that became really clear, though, is you can't risk not being part of the conversation and not trying things because one of these solutions might suddenly be the one that works.
Speaker AAnd if you stepped out of that conversation, you're playing catch up on the speed at which he's moving.
Speaker ASo there is that.
Speaker AThat jeopardy.
Speaker AHaving said that, okay.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker BThere's always a but.
Speaker BThere's always a but.
Speaker AThe but is I don't love the in app approach either.
Speaker BYou don't?
Speaker APersonally, I think there is too much friction for this to be the end game.
Speaker AIt doesn't feel like this is where things are going to end up.
Speaker AI'm not going to get in the weeds on Starbucks actual application.
Speaker AI think everybody needs to test things at the moment if anybody wants to see it.
Speaker AScott Wingo's done a great video on his LinkedIn.
Speaker AHe goes through it.
Speaker AHe shows you.
Speaker AShows you what it is.
Speaker AHe gives it two out of ten.
Speaker BTwo out of ten.
Speaker ATwo out of 10.
Speaker AAnd we know how good the Starbucks digital experience.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker ASo look, have a look at that.
Speaker AIf you want to get in the weeds on the actual tool.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAs a direction of travel.
Speaker AI think every brands have got to understand how they show up in a gentic commerce in apps.
Speaker AI'm not there on yet.
Speaker BYeah, see I get the whole thing about like you need to experiment, you need to show up.
Speaker BBut do you, do you really like, do you need to do it right now?
Speaker BBecause like, you know, like the other point I bring up like I can remember just even a few years ago, like with TikTok, people were complaining about how TikTok was inspiring all these crazy drink formulations that people were bringing into the stores and it was causing the baristas headaches.
Speaker BSo like if you think about this and you're like, oh, I make, I'm experimenting with this and it works, that's you're gonna have that problem exponentially and you don't want that.
Speaker BSo I don't really get what the end game here is in the experimentation other than to say, oh, we're experimenting.
Speaker AAnd that really leads.
Speaker AThere's a couple of things that I issues I've got with this and okay, it's beta, that's fine.
Speaker ANumber one, the merchant in me is still worried about how ruthless Bryan Nichols and the team are being with the range rationalization at Starbucks.
Speaker AOne of the problems, one of the issues that caused the operational challenges that Starbucks are having particularly in the US is that it overranged.
Speaker AThe range was far too great.
Speaker AIf you go on the Starbucks website, it says this new ChatGPT app and I'm going to quote, here is a new way to discover your next favorite drink.
Speaker BStarbucks.
Speaker AYou've got to take a step back, right.
Speaker AYou're a coffee shop.
Speaker AYou shouldn't need a ginger commerce to help people understand what your products that you sell.
Speaker AIf that's the case, you've over complicated it and that just creates those operational pressures.
Speaker BMic drop.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI wouldn't be surprised if this gets killed sooner rather than later.
Speaker BI really wouldn't.
Speaker BBut mark it down.
Speaker BWe'll see if I'm right, see if I'm wrong.