Schlotzsky's Is Betting On A New Store Model | Fast Five Shorts

This Omni Talk Retail Fast Five segment, sponsored by the A&M Consumer and Retail Group, Mirakl, Ocampo Capital, Infios, Quorso, and Veloq, explores Schlotzsky's new brand strategy and redesigned store model.
Chris Walton and guests Cassie Ryding and Joanna Rangarajan break down whether the beloved sandwich chain can modernize its concept, attract new customers, and compete in an increasingly crowded quick service restaurant market.
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Schlasky's Deli, the 55 year old sandwich chain that has been through more name changes than most brands have had menu revamps, is going back to basics re embracing the deli name and launching a next generation prototype designed to slash operating costs by 20 to 25% according to chain storage Goto Foods owns Schlatsky's, officially returned to the Schlastkey's deli name after a 2025 guest survey found 2/3 of respondents already called it a deli and qualitative research revealed many customers didn't even know Schlacky's was a food brand.
Speaker AChief Brand Officer Donna Varner said, quote People would say I thought Schlotzki's was a dry cleaner.
Speaker AI didn't realize it was a food place until I saw Cinnabon on the side.
Speaker AEnd quote.
Speaker AThat's a great quote.
Speaker AThe new next generation prototype caps at approximately 2100 square feet versus a previous range of 1400 to 3600 square feet.
Speaker AKey features include self order kiosk garage, dedicated digital pickup zones, grab and go offerings including premade cold deli subs and an optimized back of house layout.
Speaker AThe model can operate with as few as two employees during slow periods.
Speaker AFor context for those may be unfamiliar with Schlotsky's nationally as some of us may be, it currently operates 290 locations in 25 states and sales have declined 4.7% in its most recent reported numbers.
Speaker AJoanna, when was the last time you ate at a Schlotzkis number one?
Speaker AAnd is the Schlotzki's deli rebrand and prototype something that will move the needle?
Speaker BI am, I am embarrassed but I will say I've actually never had the pleasure.
Speaker AOh my God.
Speaker BI know, I know.
Speaker CGasp.
Speaker BPause for gas.
Speaker BI have had dry cleaning done however, so if that, if Schlotzki's is a dry cleaner then I have had directly
Speaker Adone it probably is a dry cleaner named Fudge Schlotsky or something like that, you know.
Speaker BYeah, right, exactly.
Speaker BBut I unfortunately I've never had it.
Speaker BI am familiar with it with their fresh quality and sort of that round bread that they're known for.
Speaker BSo barring having taste tested it, I will say I think it seems kind of, you know, more along the lines of a smart move to kind of amp up the franchise optionality for them and helping to get their quality and their, their cult like following kind of going again.
Speaker BThey are competing against fast fresh options and and the need to give Easier access to their differentiated freshness is, is important for them.
Speaker BIn our recent AM CRG Crave report, we saw that 83% of frequent QSR orders are done through pickup or delivery or a drive through format.
Speaker BAnd so the store, store designs and the considerations, the self serve kiosk and, and the formatting for sort of that gig pickup does seem to align with what we're hearing from consumer sentiments as well.
Speaker BSo I think at the end of the day, I think we need to see a franchisees embrace this and actually expand the footprint in order to know whether or not it actually moves the needle.
Speaker AI had no idea you guys had a Crave report.
Speaker AI got to get, I got to get.
Speaker AWe have that one that sounds right up my alley because first of all, it's like a shot to the heart when you tell me you've never had a Schlotzkis, Joanna.
Speaker ABecause like I, I was, I was, I was ride or died with schlotzkis back in 1999 in Tempe, Arizona.
Speaker AI used to go there all the time and I've been sad that I can't get it anymore.
Speaker AThat's actually, I actually think it's really good.
Speaker AAnd so what this makes me think though is I actually, I, I love the moves for you said, I think operation like this is how QSR is moving operationally.
Speaker ABut what, when I hear the quote from her and Cassie want to get you in on this.
Speaker ALike this feels like the DeWalt Business School case, only for QSR in terms of like the rebranding of Black and Decker to DeWalt and taking over the industry.
Speaker AI mean, it seems like nothing but upside when, when people are confusing you with, with, with a dry cleaner.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker CYeah, I mean, I think it's the right move for them and I'm excited to, you know, see how this turns out.
Speaker CBut I do think that, you know, store design is a tool for them.
Speaker CIt's not necessarily their strategy to win because it's still, you still need someone to wake up and choose to go to Schlotzki's and where they're having this brand image problem.
Speaker CYour store design is not going to change that.
Speaker CSo I think there's a little bit of, you know, the jury is out from there and how do they then make sure that everyone is making that choice?
Speaker CBecause especially, you know, Joanne is talking about how 80 something percent are going to be either, you know, delivery orders typically right now or some kind of, you know, doordash of that nature.
Speaker CAnd so people are not going.
Speaker CThey're scrolling through their app.
Speaker CThey have to choose you.
Speaker CAnd if you don't have that brand name recognition, it doesn't matter that you've saved on your operating costs and you've been able to make it a smaller footprint.
Speaker CSo the math makes a little bit more sense for franchisees if you're not driving the customers to you.
Speaker CSo I think there is another level that they need to make sure that they nail as well to get this.
Speaker CBut I think it's the right first move for them because it is making it more attractive.
Speaker CBut if they don't have that, you know, know, rebrand hit, I think, you know, is this really going to help?
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThere's going to be some customer acquisition costs to get people in the door, you know, regardless of what the.
Speaker AWhat the physical footprint starts to look like.
Speaker AYeah, right.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AWell, I pull in for Schlotzkis.
Speaker AI don't know, but I guess.
Speaker AJoy Cassie, have you been to a Schlotzkis?
Speaker CI also have not, but I feel like I might need to try it next time.
Speaker CI am.
Speaker CI'm somewhere that I can get my hands on.
Speaker AGod, it's like, it's like the lowest hanging fruit waiting to be picked up by the Schlotsky's people.





