Most Overhyped Technology - What Failed to Deliver? | Fast Five Shorts
Chris, Anne, and Chad Lusk from A&M Consumer and Retail Group call out 2025's most overhyped retail technologies in this segment sponsored by the A&M Consumer and Retail Group, Mirakl, Ocampo Capital, Infios, and Quorso.
Anne criticizes smart carts' misleading deployment numbers and questionable ROI, while both Chad and Chris agree agentic AI commerce is overhyped despite being transformative… pointing to Target's rushed ChatGPT integration as proof retailers are moving too fast without strategy. Can technology be both the future and overhyped simultaneously?
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Most overhyped retail technology of the year.
Speaker BAnd I went to smart carts for this one.
Speaker BSmart cards.
Speaker AOh, used to be on the smart cart bandwagon.
Speaker BI did.
Speaker BBut I, I really had a problem with one particular headline that was coming out of Instacart this year that was talking about the number of stores that had deployed.
Speaker BAnd, and my biggest, like, sticking point on that was that we don't know anything about how many carts are in those stores.
Speaker BWe don't know how, you know, what the payment structure, structure is.
Speaker BAnd so I think it kind of gave false confidence for retailers who were considering those putting smart carts in as though like, oh, this is a deployment with, you know, 100 carts, or we're replacing all of our carts and putting in smart carts and we're seeing all this success.
Speaker BAnd yes, that, that's fine in those stores, but when we, when you get down to it, and we've talked to a lot of grocery retailers who are testing them this year, and they have like 10 carts in the store or maybe 20 carts in the store, if that.
Speaker BAnd so I think, I just, I think that for me, I think they were early on in the year, and especially coming out of grocery shop last year, I was starting to see more of the possibilities.
Speaker BI still see the, the possibilities in the technology.
Speaker BBut I think when you're looking at all of the decisions that grocers have to be making right now about how to continue the success of their business, and I, I wouldn't be leaning into smart carts.
Speaker BI would be leaning into transparent pricing, like Chad said earlier.
Speaker BI'd be leaning into electronic shelf labels that can return a quick ROI or even, you know, in store robotics to start to get some of this, the shelf view technology that, that, you know, the smart carts are starting to add on to what their capabilities are.
Speaker BLike, those are the things that I would be focused on.
Speaker BI would not be beating.
Speaker BBe putting, you know, tens of thousands of dollars per cart into my store.
Speaker BSo that's my overhyped technology of the year.
Speaker ANo, I think that's a good one.
Speaker ASo you're basically calling out the.
Speaker AI think it was the modern retail article, right?
Speaker AWhere they said, like, instacart store placements are up 300% over the year before.
Speaker BBut there was.
Speaker AWe don't really know what that means and that you're, you're right.
Speaker AIt's a very risky place to, to put your money if you're a retailer.
Speaker ABut you can understand it too, because the retail media craze, it's that we talked about on last year's show being overhyped.
Speaker AYou know, technology aspect of things.
Speaker AAll right, Chad, what about you?
Speaker AWhat's your most overhyped retail technology of the year?
Speaker AI have a feeling you might be going in the same direction I did.
Speaker CI don't.
Speaker CI don't know.
Speaker CThis is gonna sound like an odd one, given the conversations that we've been having and the fact that I've already given a couple for AI oriented things, but.
Speaker CAll right, hear me out, Chris.
Speaker CI think you will agree with me.
Speaker CI think you will agree with me, but.
Speaker CBut we'll see.
Speaker COkay, Overhyped, or let me rephrase ahead of the reality.
Speaker CWe're too fast on it.
Speaker CWhatever.
Speaker CIt's agentic AI commerce.
Speaker A100%.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CAll right, Good, good, good.
Speaker CYes, that's mine too.
Speaker AMine too.
Speaker CAll right.
Speaker CI mean, listen, I know it sounds blasphemous because it, like, listen, it's our future to an extent, full stop.
Speaker CLike, there's no dispute there in terms of where this locomotive is going.
Speaker CIt's also anything anyone's talking about, and that's why it scares me.
Speaker CRight?
Speaker CLike, we're so early.
Speaker CLike, if you.
Speaker CIf you go back and look at the trajectory of headlines just in this year alone, right?
Speaker CIn March, March, we were talking about Google's new AI shopping tool.
Speaker CAnd we actually had a couple of, you know, crgers on the podcast, and you guys were debating whether it was even being discussed in retailer boardrooms, right?
Speaker CLike, Walmart announced Sparky In June in Q2, like, we were talking about being able to transact directly in chat GPT, like integration with Shopify.
Speaker CBut then by July, Shopify was already saying, like, we got to put some limits in place and block the bots from making purchases without human review.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker CLike, it's gone so Fast, fast.
Speaker CFrom Q1 intrigue to Q4 chief AI officers and every team and boardroom, like, forcing themselves to take a stance and saying they feel behind.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker CAnd how I know it's gone too far, too fast, and this I know you'll 100% agree with me.
Speaker AOh, my God.
Speaker AYou're gonna say what I'm gonna say no.
Speaker C100%.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CTarget gave away Farm.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker CPutting its digital experience directly into chat GPT versus owning it.
Speaker CRight?
Speaker CSo I'll end where I started, Right.
Speaker CI cannot and will not minimize the direction and importance of this movement, for sure.
Speaker CBut the reactions and what consumers are even doing on it as a commerce platform, way overhyped in the here and now.
Speaker COkay, Case closed.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker AI mean, you literally said what I was going to say, Chad.
Speaker ALike I'm gonna read the notes here verbatim that I had here for the audience because like, you literally said what I said.
Speaker ALike I, I picked agentic AI too.
Speaker ASo yes, a technology can be the technology of the year, but also be overhyped at the same time.
Speaker AAnd particularly it's the consumer facing side of agentic AI that's overhyped.
Speaker AAnd to me, the number, the number one experiment that was the proof point for that to me was what you said.
Speaker ATarget putting its app directly in the interface during peak, two days before peak, that shows me that people are right.
Speaker ATwo days before peak, that there's no reason to do that, absolutely none strategically.
Speaker AAnd it shows me that retailer.
Speaker AAnd then there were a flood of announcements after that.
Speaker ASo I don't want to just single out Target because, like, you know, I probably have that reputation to some degree.
Speaker AI don't want to do that.
Speaker AThere are a lot of retailers that have followed suit on that, that type of thing, you know, and, and it shows me that there's kind of digging around in the dark without a flashlight and everyone, I agree with you, Chad.
Speaker AEveryone just needs to take a breath, slow down, decide who they are strategically and what's most important to them in terms of allocating their resources.
Speaker ABut, and I don't.
Speaker BAnd do you want to jump in here, you guys?
Speaker BI think I understand the points of view.
Speaker BI do think that there's prudence that needs to be applied to like, what is the right move, what's the strategy?
Speaker BI think people personally don't, I don't think we understand all of the facets of this.
Speaker BSo I think to go after Target, any retailer who is experimenting in this way, to me, without us being able to see the long tail effect of what, like my whole thing is like everybody's experimenting right now.
Speaker BYes, everybody's going into the dark without a flashlight right now.
Speaker BI think that you have to test and figure out what reasons there were to make the moves that they did because Target's not the only one doing it.
Speaker BThey, they maybe were looking at what are Walmart, what's Walmart doing?
Speaker BAnd do we want to do the opposite of that so that we can test and see if this works.
Speaker BAnd again, I think, I think we're giving too much credit.
Speaker BAnd not that it's, it's your fault or anyone's fault, but I think Target put that out as a we and you said it, Chris.
Speaker BThis is a PR move.
Speaker BThey're talking about getting involved so that they can get credit for testing AI but it's still in beta.
Speaker BThey're not going live with it to the same extent that Walmart did.
Speaker BSo I think we can't punish people right now for testing a variety of different methods of attacking this very, very new way of doing commerce.
Speaker BSo that's my only thing is that I agree, slow the roll, that's fine.
Speaker BBut also, everybody's going to have to test and learn for a little while till they figure out what the right move is.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker AYeah, but I don't know.
Speaker ABut with that said, I mean that part of the reason we started the show is to say that not all experiments are good experiments.
Speaker AAnd so sometimes we hear the phrase we're experimenting as the catch all for, like, we made a good decision when in reality it might not be a good experiment.
Speaker ASo, Chad, I'm curious, last word here.
Speaker AHow do you, how do you reconcile the conversation?
Speaker CYeah, I mean, I'll, I'll reconcile that.
Speaker CSo I completely agree.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CWhich is why I tried to caveat in terms of, like, this is overhyped now, in terms of its effect.
Speaker CNow you look at some of the numbers even from Black Friday, and like, they're not even as impactful as I would have expected some of them to be.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker CCompare that to, you know, like smart carts.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CWe've been talking about smart carts for, I don't know, what was the first advent of when that came out?
Speaker CMaybe two years ago, three years ago?
Speaker CI don't know.
Speaker AWhatever it is, in reality, it's like 30 years, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker CAnd you're giving that overhyped in 2025, which means there has been testing.
Speaker CThere has been, but people, people have dabbled with that.
Speaker CIt's still kind of sitting there.
Speaker CAnd like, okay, it didn't work.
Speaker CWe are in barely the first inning of this technology and people absolutely should be testing against it.
Speaker CBut just how I hear the conversations develop in terms of the be all, end all now.
Speaker CRight, Like, I agree with you, Chris, however you said it, like, let's take a pause, let's take a breath, let's test, let's learn.
Speaker CThis is an incredibly ambiguous space, so let's treat it like that versus diving in head first.