J.C. Penney Takes Aim At Off-Price, But Should It Have? | Fast Five Shorts
J.C. Penney is taking aim at the off-price retail market, but Chris Walton and Joe Laszlo aren't convinced the strategy is necessarily the right move.
Joe Laszlo, Head of Content & Insights, U.S. at Shoptalk, joins Chris to debate whether J.C. Penney can successfully compete with off-price retailers or whether the company risks losing focus on what it should actually be doing to win back customers.
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JcPenney's launched a new retail rejuvenation marketing campaign aimed squarely at off price retailers, arguing its apparel and home goods are more fashionable and in better condition than what shoppers find at discounters like tgx, Ross and Burlington.
Speaker AAccording to Retail Dive.
Speaker AIn the campaign, dubbed a journey from quote retail regret to retail redemption, end quote, Penneys touts its apparel as more fashionable and its homegoods as in better shape than what can be found at its discount rivals from August 28th through August 30th.
Speaker AYes, this weekend everybody, those shoppers who regret a purchase made elsewhere can drop their items off at a JC Penney store and get $15 off a $50 purchase.
Speaker AThe campaign includes a tongue in cheek spot featuring six people apparently hooked on off price shopping, with a retreat facilitator working to break the spell those stores have on them and before getting them to chant cult like in favor of pennies instead.
Speaker AIt's a great commercial.
Speaker AI got to give them props on that one.
Speaker AJoe.
Speaker AJCPenney is essentially telling shoppers that off price treasure hunting is a mistake.
Speaker AIs attacking a category that's been taking your market shares for years a smart offensive move?
Speaker AOr is it, is it in and of itself also a mistake?
Speaker BI go both ways on this one, which is probably not the right, the right answer.
Speaker BBut I think, I think on the one hand JCPenney has been so on the back foot for such a long time, it's nice to see them being punch about anything.
Speaker BAnd, and you know, I think an aggressive targeted campaign against or contro one of the places that the JCPenney shopper is shopping these days.
Speaker BWhy not?
Speaker BLike, you might as well give it, give it a try.
Speaker BTo your point, it's a really funny ad.
Speaker BIt catches the attention.
Speaker BIt probably makes some people who had not been to a JCPenney in the wild go, oh yeah, there's some, there's some points about the downsides of the treasure hunt approach that, that you know, maybe I should give them another try.
Speaker BLike do I do I think JCPenney could pick on kind of other, other categories that have taken traffic away from it.
Speaker BSure.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BBut, but again it's, it's better than, it's better than the silence that, that has been JCPenney's main, main marketing strategy up up until now.
Speaker BSo I, I give them credit for something that's likely to get some attention on social and, and it's, it's kind of funny and, and you know how effective it's going to be as far as driving JCPenney sales, we'll, we'll kind of have to wait and see on that, but at least it's getting some attention and social buzz has been good about it.
Speaker AYeah, that's funny, Joe.
Speaker AIt makes me think like as I project five to 10 years out, like if I get to see a commercial down the road of like why are you shopping on Amazon from their fully automated warehouse where like the robots are picking everything and packing everything and when you could be coming into our store and interacting with a human being, you know, it makes me start to wonder if that's the direction we're going to go.
Speaker ABut I don't know.
Speaker AI'm kind of conflicted too.
Speaker AI think on the whole though, I'm a little, I'm a little more on the downside of this promotion.
Speaker AThere's a few things that worry me.
Speaker ALike number one, I think J.C. penney's has no idea what the redemption is going to be on this.
Speaker AIt's a pretty compelling offer and it could be quite high.
Speaker AYou could get a lot of folks bringing items in and so one that's going to be hard to comp again against next year.
Speaker AAnd then you also have no idea what products are coming back to you.
Speaker ASo it sounds like hell on earth if you're working in the stores this weekend.
Speaker ASo I, I, I salute you JCPenney store workers because I would not want to have this coming down, down, down the pike for me this weekend.
Speaker BI, I sure hope there's a fine print about just, just what they'll take back and what condition it has to be in because yeah, I could see a bunch of people finding like something that costs $2 and getting $15 in credit for it.
Speaker BAnd I mean again, maybe aside from the, to your point, very valid point, like what, what the in store staff is going to have to deal with with all of this stuff.
Speaker BGetting a whole bunch of people in stores with $15 that may lead to a $30 purchase or a $40 purchase or a 50 DOL.
Speaker BThe numbers may work but, but yeah, the, the logistics of it are sound challenging.
Speaker AAnd the other thing too is like if their Dept, if it isn't compelling or their redemptions are bad, I mean then it's like abandoned ship.
Speaker AI mean like I'm like oh my God, we, we can't get anybody in here with like this type of promotion and we can't get anyone to spend the money that we're giving them.
Speaker ASo like that's going to be a big telltale sign for everyone at JCPenney in terms of like, oh, man, is this going to be a going concern or not?
Speaker ASo.
Speaker ASo it's pretty bold.
Speaker ALike, it's, it's going to set the course one way or the other.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThe other thing I just don't like.
Speaker AYou're basically telling me I should shop off price with this commercial.
Speaker AThat's basically what you're telling me.
Speaker AYou're telling.
Speaker AYou're telling.
Speaker AYou're putting that in my mind, which I probably never actually thought about.
Speaker ALike, you know, overtly, like, oh, I shouldn't go to J.C. penney's because I can get great deals at off price.
Speaker AWhy don't I just do that?
Speaker ASo.
Speaker ASo for me, I don't know.
Speaker AAs we're talking about this more, Joe, I feel like at the end of the day we're still pushing water uphill in a big way, but I don't.
Speaker AYou get the last word here.
Speaker BYeah, I see your point exactly.
Speaker BAbout the challenge of picking on a rival is you also potentially plant the seed in somebody's mind that, oh, I could go shop at the rival instead.
Speaker BIt may actually not be so, so bad.
Speaker BSo again, I still, I give them credit for a campaign that was designed to garner some social media attention and buzz the message I like a lot the execution.
Speaker BI think you're absolutely right about the challenges that in source app is going to face with the execution of it.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker BAnd yeah, at the end of the day, are people actually going to follow through and bring something crappy that they got wherever, like in.
Speaker BIn exchange for 15 bucks?
Speaker BDepends on what else is going on this weekend.
Speaker BI guess I don't have any plans, so maybe I will take a trek.
Speaker AOver to J.C. penney's.