Is Target’s Turnaround Actually Real? | Fast Five Shorts
Target is showing signs of improvement, but is the retailer actually turning the corner?
Chris Walton is joined by Joe Laszlo, Head of Content & Insights, U.S. at Shoptalk, to debate Target's latest results, including stronger sales, grocery growth, improved store traffic, and a raised outlook. But after a difficult stretch, the bigger question remains: is this a genuine turnaround or simply a bounce off weak comparisons?
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00:00 - Untitled
00:00 - Target's Strong Earnings Report and Future Outlook
02:01 - Target's Retail Strategy: Progress and Future Challenges
02:45 - Analyzing Target's Growth Trends
03:40 - Evaluating Target's Growth Strategy
04:36 - Challenges and Opportunities for Target
05:28 - Evaluating Grocery Strategies
According to the Wall Street Journal, Target raised its full year sales and earnings forecast for the second time this year with fiscal second quarter comparable sales up 3.8%, which was well ahead of Wall Street's 2 1/2% estimate.
Speaker AThe sales growth was powered by a 3.6% rise in traffic and an 8.7% jump in digital comparable sales as shoppers, I should say, opted for same day Delivery.
Speaker ATarget's fiscal second quarter results also included a $752 million boost to net earnings, or $1.65 per share from tariff refunds.
Speaker AAnd the company hiked its full fiscal year outlook due to both stronger sales trends and the one time boost to its bottom line.
Speaker ACEO Michael Fidelke told reporters we're encouraged by the progress made so far and we're also clear eyed about the important work still ahead, end quote, while still cautioning that we quote, have much more work to do, end quote.
Speaker AJoe, Target coming off back to back strong quarters and it just raised guidance for the second time this year in dissecting Target's results.
Speaker AWhat should the retailer be encouraged about and where indeed is there still more work to do?
Speaker AAs CEO Michael Fidelke alludes to, I.
Speaker BThink there's a few really good signs in Target's numbers above and beyond the tariff refund which has kind of helped a whole bunch of retailers out this this past quarter and it kind of can't really count it towards long term growth prospects.
Speaker BBut you made the point about same day Chris.
Speaker B25% Growth in same day delivery for Target kind of says that, you know those, those everyday essentials that people really need.
Speaker BPeople are turning to Target more and more on the E commerce front.
Speaker BTheir store comps not as good as their digital comps but still up 2.7%.
Speaker BSo still up more than Wall street was expecting which kind of suggests that some of the hard work that Target has been doing to make stores more inviting to improve the way that they're merch may be starting to pay off in a small incremental way.
Speaker BBut I, I'd say that's probably where Target knows it still has some work to do.
Speaker BThey've already made great progress as far as the the center store grocery part of the business, the fun one to one part of the business games seems to be a standout for them this quarter and and I think there's exciting things to come around beauty as they kind of swap out Ulta and start building their own thing.
Speaker BBut I think that that'll be a big piece of work ahead of Them is continuing to make the beauty offering really attractive to those shoppers.
Speaker AYeah, 100%.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AJoe, I, this is an interesting one for me.
Speaker AI think on the positive side you first of all, you got to give Target credit for the trend line.
Speaker AThe trend line is strong.
Speaker AThe two year stack was positive.
Speaker AIf you look at last year's, last year's Q2, they were down 1.9%.
Speaker ASo net net they're positive growth over two years.
Speaker ASo that, so that's, that's really good.
Speaker AThere are a few negatives though that I would call out, one of which is one you mentioned which is digital is still slow to me at 8.7%.
Speaker AThat's still a, that's still a slow marker of growth.
Speaker AEspecially when you're also touting a 30% increase in same day and next day.
Speaker AI find the inclusion of and next day interesting in that statistic because while that 30% might sound big, it might actually be too slow if you look at the same day growth in comparison to Walmart and Target.
Speaker ASo digital to me should be growing faster than it is.
Speaker AThe other point I bring up too is, you know, how sustainable is this growth pattern that they're seeing?
Speaker AYou've talked about it, Joe.
Speaker AThey've talked about it.
Speaker AThey've talked about the merchandising changes, they've talked about the new in store assortments.
Speaker AWell, with new in store assortments comes better inventory position because your inventory is coming in up front.
Speaker AWe know the in stocks have been bad.
Speaker ASo how much of that comp growth is just to having inventory in a way that you didn't have before?
Speaker AAnd will you, will you be able to sustain that and grow it year over year?
Speaker AWhich brings me to my last point, Joe, which I'm still a little bit negative on their strategy.
Speaker AIt just felt, I read through their earnings report.
Speaker AIt just feels like generic category repositionings are their strategy, which I've been saying over and over again isn't enough.
Speaker ATarget needs another hook, something new, something inventive, something bold.
Speaker AAnd I'm just not seeing it in how they're talking about the business.
Speaker ABut I don't know.
Speaker AJoe, what do you think?
Speaker BI agree with pretty much everything you just said, Chris.
Speaker BI think Target's definitely still got a lot of challenges ahead of it.
Speaker BI think Target has said at the C suite level a lot of good things about what it needs to do.
Speaker BI think it knows what it needs to do.
Speaker BBut I think we'll continue to have to wait and see how that translates down to the level of individual stores.
Speaker BI think there are some positive signs like you said, but they definitely not in position of resting on their laurels yet.
Speaker BAnd that question of, you know, kind of needing something special, something really differentiated, I think that's a challenge that all retail faces these days, right when, when people could just sit on their couch and scroll social media, what gets them off their couch and going into stores?
Speaker BAnd I think, you know, another way of phrasing what you were talking about is like I think Target people go to Target these days because they have to.
Speaker BAnd I think Target wants people to go to Target because they want to.
Speaker BAnd that, that shift from a, have to, have to visit store to pick up stuff, that's a chore to, to the want to visit store to see what's new in the assortment, what's exciting, what, what, what, what isn't somebody planning to buy when they go.
Speaker BThat's, that's, that's what we'll have to keep an eye on for the next couple of quarterly earnings from them.
Speaker AYeah, absolutely.
Speaker AAnd I know too that their SVP of food and beverage, John Collins, going to be at Grocery Shop too.
Speaker AAnd I'm looking forward to meeting him.
Speaker AHe's an old colleague, old friend of mine.
Speaker AAnd yeah, they've been taking a definitive approach in grocery particularly to add newness, add items that you wouldn't find and you know, your average run of the mill supermarket.
Speaker AAnd so we'll see if that pays off here in the long run to continue to drive traffic.
Speaker ABut the store side numbers, I will say this, everyone, as hard as I've been on Target, the store side numbers are encouraging.
Speaker AIt's just a question of can they keep it up and do they have the strategy in the long term to be sustainable.