Is Kroger Buying Growth...or Buying Time? | Fast Five Shorts
This Omni Talk Retail Fast Five segment examines Kroger's $1.65 billion acquisition of Giant Eagle and what it signals about the future of the grocery industry.
Chris Walton and Ben Miller debate whether Kroger is making a smart strategic acquisition or simply doubling down on a business facing mounting competitive pressure from Walmart, Amazon, Aldi, and Sprouts. They also discuss why a successful family-owned grocer like Giant Eagle may have chosen to sell now, whether the acquisition creates meaningful long-term value, and what it says about the next wave of grocery consolidation.
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00:00 - Untitled
00:00 - Kroger's Acquisition of Giant Eagle
00:58 - Analyzing Kroger's Acquisition of Giant Eagle
03:30 - Analyzing the Acquisition of Giant Eagle
04:46 - Kroger's Acquisition Debate
06:36 - The Future of Grocery: Industry Shifts and Strategic Decisions
08:01 - Challenges of Integration in Acquisitions
According to Progressive Crocher, Kroger has agreed to acquire regional grocer giant Eagle for $1.65 billion, marking Kroger's first major acquisition since its proposed $24.6 billion Albertsons merger collapsed in 2024.
Speaker AThe deal is comprised of $1.25 billion in cash, plus the assumption of roughly $400 million in outstanding liabilities.
Speaker AGiant Eagle is family owned, generates about $9 billion in annual sales and operates roughly 197 supermarkets and 11 standalone pharmacies across northern Ohio, western Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Maryland and Indiana.
Speaker AGiant Eagle will keep its name, its Cranberry Township, Pennsylvania headquarters and its MyParks loyalty program.
Speaker AThe deal is expected to close in 2027, pending regulatory approval.
Speaker ABen, does Kroger's acquisition of Giant Eagle say more about Kroger or more about the state of the grocery industry itself?
Speaker BOh, wow.
Speaker BWhat a great place to start.
Speaker BThe state of US Grocery.
Speaker BLove it.
Speaker BLook, I think for me there's two perspectives.
Speaker BThere is.
Speaker BOne, is it a good deal?
Speaker BAnd then the second is should they do it anyway?
Speaker BOkay, first, good look, Giant Eagle is a solid business.
Speaker BYeah, it's got and it's got some really excellent regional market positions in places where Kroger doesn't.
Speaker BSo it is a good on the whole, a good geographic fit.
Speaker BLook, there'll need to be some selective store divestments to hit antitrust, but I they should be manageable.
Speaker BSecond, can they get value from it?
Speaker BSo look, they are spending a billion and a half to get another 9 billion in revenue.
Speaker BSo that's better economies of scale, that's better buying, that's deeper.
Speaker BWith CPG partners, you've got to assume the Kroger is buying better than Giant Eagle was.
Speaker BThere's retail media opportunities through Kroger precision marketing.
Speaker BSo that definitely route to add value.
Speaker BThey can absolutely add value to Giant Eagle's econ business.
Speaker BSo Giant Eagle, look, he's got a good curbside game but there is work to do in home delivery that as we know is the fastest growing bit of US grocery E. Com right now.
Speaker BSo there's some strong kind of synergistic rationale there.
Speaker BThe Giant Eagle's private so it's hard to get a really clear read on the financials.
Speaker BI think the price feels okay, but having a feeling about an acquisition isn't great.
Speaker AIt feels okay.
Speaker AYeah, right.
Speaker BIt's not where you'd want to be.
Speaker BWe're taking a view on it.
Speaker BBut look, for everything I know about Giant Eagle they should be Making ebitda of about 250 million a year.
Speaker BSo Giant Eagle spending 1.6 to get another 250 profit.
Speaker BThat's okay.
Speaker BIt's a multiple of what, 6 to 7?
Speaker BWhich feels okay for a big grocery acquisition.
Speaker BSo that's fairly okay.
Speaker BIt's now the should okay.
Speaker BAnd the should's difficult because we don't know the background.
Speaker BWe don't know why Giant Eagle are selling.
Speaker BI mean it could be a point that this is just an offer that's come up that's too good to say no to.
Speaker BYou know, if you're Kroger and this is offered to you at this price, it's hard to know why you would decline.
Speaker BSo look, that's where due diligence is so important.
Speaker BWhy are they selling?
Speaker BWhy now?
Speaker BIt may just be actually a really, a relatively Kroger's 150/billion business.
Speaker BSo it's a relatively small acquisition to buy a good business with good market positions.
Speaker BThey've got new, new leadership so they can put the Albertson thing behind them.
Speaker BGreg Foreign could say new broom.
Speaker BCome with me.
Speaker BYou know, there is absolute distraction, risk and, but maybe he needs to do something like this to prove that he can balance everything he needs to do.
Speaker BBut Chris, does it excite me?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BIs this, is this the thing that is going to supercharge Kroger?
Speaker BIt's, it's a very Kroger thing to do.
Speaker BAnd I'm right and I, I can understand it, it's got rationale, but I, but I'm not sure what they're getting that's new.
Speaker BYou know, both, both these businesses are slowly losing market share to Amazon and Walmart and Sprouts and, and Aldi.
Speaker BI don't see anything in this is going to help with that.
Speaker BNow if leadership team can prove that they can bring this acquisition, get this extra scale, drive the value as well as giving us this something new that's exciting.
Speaker BI buy into that.
Speaker BBut I'd love to see that new and exciting as well, Chris.
Speaker BI really would.
Speaker ASo, so Ben.
Speaker ASo net net.
Speaker AYou're kind of like eh, meh on this acquisition.
Speaker AThat's how I'd kind of sum it up.
Speaker AMeh.
Speaker AYou're kind of meh.
Speaker ALike, you're like okay, I'll take it.
Speaker AThat's fine.
Speaker BUnless, unless you discover any skeleton in the closet when you're doing due diligence.
Speaker BIt's probably too good an offer to say no to.
Speaker BBut it doesn't wake me up excited in the morning.
Speaker BChris.
Speaker AAnd it just feels like for you, just like another, it's just like Kroger being Kroger.
Speaker AThat's kind of how you'd sum it up.
Speaker BIt's CRO.
Speaker BIt's Kroger being Kroger.
Speaker AKroger being Kroger.
Speaker AYeah, and I think I agree with that too.
Speaker AI mean the other points I'd bring up is I, you know, I think, I think the story and the reason I asked that question is I think it says a lot about the grocery industry too because you know, groceries in a tough spot, it's only going to get worse.
Speaker AAs I've talked about on this show many, many times with you and with others.
Speaker AAnd you know, when I look at it from Giant Eagle's perspective, I have to look, you know, I think it's important to think about the motivations here too.
Speaker AYou have a very successfully run family organization in Giant Eagle.
Speaker AI mean I can Even remember at FMI back in 2019, I had the privilege of going on right before presenting to the audience, right before CEO Laura Shapira Carrot, who's part of the original Carrot family, which is one of the original founding families of John Eagle.
Speaker AI heard her speak and she was talking about the, the, the family owned nature of the business was very palpable in what she's saying.
Speaker ASo basically you have a nine billion dollar family run organization crying uncle on what lies ahead.
Speaker AThat's essentially what's happening here.
Speaker ASo I read this as Giant Eagles leadership and shareholders are saying it's time to harvest and get out.
Speaker AAnd if Giant Eagle is doing it because they're one of the more successful players at making a go of it, you can expect a lot more of where this came from down the road here as we look out the next five, 10 years.
Speaker ABecause the latest reports are.
Speaker AYou said it already, Ben, Walmart has 40% of the online US market.
Speaker AOne hour delivery, one hour or less delivery is actually now making up 18% of all grocery orders.
Speaker AThank you Amazon.
Speaker ASo Giant Eagle executives may be the smartest executives of the entire bunch here saying we see the writing on the wall, we're getting the hell out.
Speaker AAnd Kroger, you're going to be the one left holding the bag on what is potentially a depreciating asset.
Speaker AI mean, why else would a family owned business sell out?
Speaker AThat's just my take here, Ben, but I don't know.
Speaker AYou get the last word.
Speaker BI agree with all you've said.
Speaker BHowever, if you're sat in Kroger and Giant Eagle comes off on the table to potentially buy for 9 billion.
Speaker BDo you say no and walk away from that?
Speaker BPersonally, I think you don't.
Speaker BI think you buy it.
Speaker AYeah, that, that brings up the, I don't know what the analogy is, but that means, like, when you're the only, like the only guy or girl at the prom or what are on the dance floor, do you take the dance?
Speaker AI don't, I don't know what.
Speaker ABut you guys know what, I'm totally screwing up this analogy.
Speaker ABut like, that's what it is.
Speaker ALike if you're the only suitor, that's you, you know, that is available.
Speaker ALike, should you be the one signing up for the deal?
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker AI don't know that I, I, I,.
Speaker BI don't, I, I, I don't think it's that bad.
Speaker BBut we will see.
Speaker BWe will see.
Speaker AEspecially, especially too bend, though.
Speaker ALike, the other point of this too, which we didn't really talk about is foreign has said 60 of his store base is not where he needs it to be.
Speaker AAnd now he's got the distraction of an acquisition and bringing them into the fold.
Speaker ASo like, I don't know, like, it just gets real dicey real quick.