End of an Era: Amazon Officially Absorbs Whole Foods Into "One Grocery" Strategy
Amazon restructures grocery leadership under "One Grocery" strategy, merging Whole Foods employees into Amazon systems. Is this long-overdue efficiency or cultural destruction? Expert debate on what this means for grocery competition and Whole Foods' future. Sponsored by A&M Consumer and Retail Group, Mirakl, Simbe, Infios Clear Demand, and Ocampo Capital.
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Amazon has restructured its grocery leadership.
Speaker AAccording to GroceryDive, Amazon has named a restructured leadership team for its worldwide grocery division that includes top executives from Whole Foods Market.
Speaker AThe latest moves are part of an initiative Amazon is calling quote One Grocery.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker AAnd marked the first major realignment under Jason Biko, who became head of Amazon's grocery division earlier this year after serving as CEO of Whole Foods since 2022.
Speaker AOne grocery is just so creative, don't you think?
Speaker AAnd in addition, Whole Foods Market's corporate employees will migrate to the same system as Amazon employees for benefits, compensation structure and other aspects of their jobs.
Speaker AAnd Amazon spokesperson confirmed to Grocery Dive Bryson, what should we make of Amazon's One Grocery strategy?
Speaker ARestructuring?
Speaker AOr is it just more sound and fury ultimately signifying nothing?
Speaker BYeah, no, it's a great question.
Speaker BAnd so I, I don't think it's the latter.
Speaker BI think, you know, they're don't.
Speaker AOkay, interesting.
Speaker BI don't think it's the latter and I think quite honestly it's, it's long overdue.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BI mean the acquisition of Whole Foods was back in 2017.
Speaker BYou know, now fast forward to 2025.
Speaker BSo for, you know, Amazon to be able to, you know, effectively break down the silos that have existed between Whole Foods, Amazon Fresh and Amazon Go, I think the benefits are going to be exponential with respect to, you know, bringing together both the physical as well as the digital insights for consumer trends, being able to cross pollinate ideas amongst the different retail banners and then leveraging and really bridging that gap from a true omnichannel standpoint in grocery.
Speaker BSo I, I do think that there are long term benefits, are there immediate benefits as well as long term benefits that they're going to unlock through this?
Speaker BI think, you know, it does send a long term signal to the employee, internal employees as well, you know, giving them greater access to assets that maybe weren't available to them in the past.
Speaker BUnifying on one platform, simplifying processes.
Speaker BSo I think the efficiencies, the insights as well as the reach are really going to be what set this move apart and really set Amazon up for long term success under the one grocery platform.
Speaker AWow, okay, so I'm, I'm a little surprised by that take right at the get go.
Speaker ASo let me ask you a follow up question there.
Speaker ASo, so no concern at all then about, you know, moving the Whole Foods employees onto the full Amazon compensation package benefits, no concerns at all about what that does to the culture of Whole Foods?
Speaker BYou know, I think it's a good point and a good, a good risk.
Speaker BI know that, you know, just comparatively, other retailers have been very cautious about merging online and physical.
Speaker BBut I think, you know, the Runway has been long enough to where, you know, those cultural norms I think are established.
Speaker BAnd I think, you know, and I am maybe going on a limb here and giving Amazon credit for, you know, not disrupting the boat too much in preserving some of that integrity.
Speaker BBut I think the, you know, benefits of being able to, you know, break down the redundancies, drive efficiencies, I think is only going to result in, you know, improving the employee dynamic, dynamic amongst the members at Whole Foods and the like.
Speaker BSo I do think there is upside in it.
Speaker BI think, you know, you did bring up a point, point about maintaining the delicate balance of the culture.
Speaker BBut there, I think just given the access, the elimination redundancies and overall efficiencies, I think that would outweigh the risks.
Speaker AInteresting, Interesting.
Speaker AI'm not sure I'm buying into the argument of reducing efficiencies is what, what Whole Foods needs to continue to be great.
Speaker ABut I'll save that for now.
Speaker AI want to hear what Brooks has to say.
Speaker ABrooks, do you agree with your colleague here or are you going to take a different slant?
Speaker CWell, look, I'm going to go on record as never disagreeing with Bryson on the topic of grocery.
Speaker AI know, right?
Speaker AThat's why I feel like danger Will Robinson.
Speaker ADanger Will Robinson already, but let's go.
Speaker CSo I'm going to take the proverbial wait and see on this one.
Speaker CI mean, it's hard to believe it's been eight years since the acquisition.
Speaker CAnd I think all of us expected this to be a major industry disruptor, but I think we're just still waiting for that, right?
Speaker CI mean, groceries, what a trillion dollar market in the U.S.
Speaker Camazon has 3, 4 or 5% share.
Speaker CI mean, I think a lot of us were expecting more and maybe this is the answer.
Speaker CI'm not sure.
Speaker ARight, okay.
Speaker ASo you're taking a little more cautious approach.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AAnd what do you think here?
Speaker DI mean, I think that it makes total sense if I'm Bryson and I'm coming in and I'm looking at how do I streamline operations, how do I continue to make Amazon's grocery success best possible?
Speaker DLike all of the things that Bryson just said have to happen.
Speaker DI do, however, I agree with that.
Speaker DThink that just based on what we heard time and time again last week.
Speaker DChris, from the grocery retailers, we talked to a consumer goods forum last week.
Speaker DThey Were all talking about having this sense of purpose in their roles of the, the corporation being not only about making sure that people get food, but providing feeding the world with the most affordable and healthiest food possible.
Speaker DAnd what worries me is the line in this press release of, and other aspects of their job.
Speaker DLike, I think from a, like that's the part for me that I do think is going to really impact how successful this is in terms of the current workforce and the current culture and the current consumer expectations of the Whole Food customer.
Speaker DBecause I think if you go too far into automating and Amazoning a grocery store like Whole Foods, I, I don't know that you still have that edge that that Whole Foods has had in the market.
Speaker ASo yeah, I, I, I, that's where I'm, I'm at that point too.
Speaker AAnd like I said, you know, from the people we've talked to that have worked at Amazon, like the vision I have of working there is like their systems are like, there's like clocks everywhere that you're what that are, are watching.
Speaker DYou and counting down, like how quickly.
Speaker AYou respond to emails and how quickly you get your job done and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker AAnd if I'm a Whole Foods like lifer, I'm like, forget that.
Speaker AI don't want that.
Speaker AAnd so like, I don't know how that, you know, makes that, that stifles my creativity somewhat, which is what Whole Foods was so good at.
Speaker ABut I mean, to go on my point now, I think, to me, I think it's, it's the move you expect 100%.
Speaker AI agree with that.
Speaker AI don't know what else you do, honestly, but I think going back to the question, I think it actually does signify nothing in the long run.
Speaker AAnd I'll go even farther to say that in 10 years, I think Whole Foods is going to be a shelve its former self and be relegated to the dustbin of nostalgia if this plays out the way I think things are going to play out.
Speaker ABecause like, look, Tony Hoggett's gone.
Speaker AClaire Peters is now gone, which I didn't realize until this announcement came out.
Speaker ABoth are seasoned grocery executives and they've, they're gone after countless other executives in Amazon Grocery have gone before them.
Speaker AAnd so now you're putting Amazon Whole Foods on the Amazon incentive structure.
Speaker AI just don't think that bodes well.
Speaker ABut the biggest tell for me in this is what does Amazon have to go on strategically here?
Speaker AAnd the biggest tell for me is like, there's this weird Metric that they're quoting about the Amazon Fresh remodels where they're saying like that the average monthly store spend of a consumer has increased 20%.
Speaker AI've never heard that statistic before.
Speaker ALike, shouldn't that just be like the average store is up 20%?
Speaker ALike what are you telling me with that statistic?
Speaker ALike, I don't get it.
Speaker ASo like it seems like they're reaching as well for this.
Speaker AAnd so I just don't know strategically, why, what is it?
Speaker AWhy does Amazon have a right to win in grocery at this point compared to the competition?
Speaker AI just don't understand that.
Speaker ABut I don't know.
Speaker AI'll give one.
Speaker ADo any of you guys want the last word to retort on that?
Speaker BSure, I'll take that one.
Speaker BSo, you know, I think why do they have the right to win?
Speaker BYou know, and I think it really is, I think this is probably one of the best use cases for, you know, the divergence of the physical and the digital.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd I think Amazon's been reserved in that approach.
Speaker BRight, but we're starting to see it, we're starting to see the digital encroach on Whole Foods, right?
Speaker BIn the last time that I placed an order on Amazon, you know, I'm loaded to it.
Speaker BYou know, anything else window where it prompts me to fulfill, you know, traditional food staples, right?
Speaker BPerishables, arguably coming from Whole Foods, you know, when you're facilitating returns for Amazon, you know, you have the convenience of dropping into Whole Foods for that.
Speaker BSo I think what's going to set them apart is really that 360 degree access into insights.
Speaker BSo I think, you know, you bring up a point.
Speaker BIt is incredibly imperative to protect the core and understand the core consumers.
Speaker BBut I think the robust insights and analytics that can be brought in from the digital as well as the other banners that Amazon operates does bring meaningful insights into the consumers so provided there to the Whole Foods consumer, so provided they are able to preserve, you know, what's made them successful to date, but also augment that with those additional opportunities to spot, identify and react to trends in a much more meaningful and faster manner, presents a value proposition for the Whole Foods consumer.
Speaker AOkay, okay, well, I guess we'll, I think we'll agree to disagree on this one.
Speaker AWe'll see where we go with the rest of the show.