Does The U.S. Consumer Need Delivery Subscription Option From Dollar General? | Fast Five Shorts
This Omni Talk Retail Fast Five segment explores Dollar General's plans to test a new subscription membership program and whether value-focused shoppers are ready for another retail membership offering.
Chris Walton and Ben Miller debate the opportunities and risks of launching a paid program, including delivery benefits, customer loyalty, and whether Dollar General's assortment can support a compelling value proposition.
The conversation also examines how subscriptions have transformed retail and why pilot programs remain one of the most effective ways to test new ideas.
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Dollar General plans to introduce a new pilot subscription program.
Speaker ASo according to Google, by way of various sources, while specific pricing and exact rollout dates have not been finalized, Dollar General membership is expected to offer exclusive discounts, special deals and added convenience for frequent shoppers.
Speaker AThe news comes after CEO Todd Vassos recently told analysts that the company was seeing a major shift in the type of shoppers frequenting its stores.
Speaker AThis is a quote.
Speaker AWe are seeing customer penetration growth across low, middle and high income segments as customers across all income cohorts seek value at increasing rates.
Speaker ANotably, he went on, across these cohorts, the largest increase in customer count came from the highest income segments, those who earn more than US$100,000 annually.
Speaker ASo, Chris, super interested to hear your thoughts on this one.
Speaker ADo US consumers need another Walmart plus like subscription program and do they need it from Dollar General?
Speaker BOh, wow.
Speaker BI think wholeheartedly, yes.
Speaker BI think this is a great move by Dollar General.
Speaker BI'm all for this, especially when you're just talking about a pilot stage.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd I think it'll end up rolling out too.
Speaker BI really do, Ben, and it's for all the reasons I said before.
Speaker BIt's basically like it's a no risk pilot idea.
Speaker BLike if you get people to pay for it, great.
Speaker BIf you don't, you shut it down.
Speaker BOr even if you get a few people that pay for it, it doesn't really cost you that much to run it once you have the program established and in place.
Speaker BSo it's great profit if it works.
Speaker BAnd here's the other point I'd make, and I think this is really important, like Dollar General has an advantage in its locations and where they are, that it should be able to command additional value for those locations.
Speaker BIt's the retailer, when you stop and think about that is closest to the entire US of anybody, including Walmart, including Amazon.
Speaker BIt has 20,000 locations, particularly in the rural, the rural communities where Amazon particularly is not, as you know, is not able to reach as easily.
Speaker BSo yes, I mean Dollar General, if anyone should have a subscription program because they should be able to command that additional value for the service they could provide with same day delivery even faster than same day delivery to their customers that want it.
Speaker BAnd that's the key thing is how many people want it.
Speaker BAnd I don't think you're ever gonna find out until you try.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker BSo again, I'm going back on the stump of what can go right.
Speaker BAnd if this goes right, it's a huge boon for Dollar General.
Speaker AOkay, well, in which case I will happily come in with the what could go wrong.
Speaker AOkay, I, I, I don't love it.
Speaker AAnd I'll take.
Speaker BYou're gonna pee in my pool.
Speaker BBen Miller.
Speaker BOkay, go ahead.
Speaker AI, I, I am, I am, I am.
Speaker ADon't love it.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ALook, Donna, General is starting to perform okay again at the moment.
Speaker AYeah, you know, they're not at a great run, but you know, they're seeing 3 to 4% growth.
Speaker AAnd, and they've done that, Chris.
Speaker AThey've done that by going back to the fundamentals.
Speaker AThey've rolled back some programs, they've just focused on the basics.
Speaker AAnd there is a, there is some coming back to one of the big trends that we've been talking about for a while, which is the mixed signals that are coming out of the US consumer at the moment.
Speaker AI find this a bit of a worry.
Speaker AYou know, the Dollar General is seeing growth across all segments because that signposts that there are more people in the US economy who are struggling right now.
Speaker ANow for Dollar General, this is super important because if you think about the call the core Dollar General customer when times are bad and their income is contracting, where can you go?
Speaker AThey can't trade down, they can't trade down, they buy less items.
Speaker ASo for dg, actually it's really important that they can bring more people in at those times to keep, to keep their business going.
Speaker AI don't really buy into the importance of a hundred thousand dollar households to them because I'm pretty sure it's a very small base.
Speaker ASo proportionately.
Speaker AOkay, great, we're seeing that.
Speaker ABut the DG model is about simplicity, Chris, and it's about walking in no matter who you are, democratized and you're going to get a good deal, you're going to get the best possible price.
Speaker AAdding in the extra complexity of a membership program requiring a subscription, requiring something to pay for up front to be able to get those good prices is, I'm not sure that's in keeping with the Dollar General brand.
Speaker AI'm not sure it's necessarily what their shoppers are looking for.
Speaker AWalmart and Amazon can get away with it because the they is so compelling everything they put into program.
Speaker ABut this is, but this is the.
Speaker AOkay, well that's what can go wrong.
Speaker ASo what can go right?
Speaker ALet's find out.
Speaker BYeah, I'm chopping at the bit.
Speaker BYeah, I'm chopping at the bit to retort.
Speaker ALet's go.
Speaker ATell me everything I've seen wrong.
Speaker BNo, no, you go, you go.
Speaker BYou got more.
Speaker BYou Got more.
Speaker AYou go, no, it's really hard to know what the value props going to be.
Speaker ASo what are they going to put into that deal and how much are they going to charge for it?
Speaker ABecause if it's, if the answer isn't we're putting a lot in and we're charging not a lot for it, then I'm worried.
Speaker BRight, right.
Speaker BOkay, so here's my retort, Ben, here's my retort.
Speaker BSo my retort is all those arguments you made were the same arguments people were making against Walmart doing Walmart plus to begin with.
Speaker BIf you look back, if you rewind in history, whenever they announced that program, which I don't even remember when it was now, those are the exact same arguments.
Speaker BAnd so the question I would have though is couldn't the same rationale hold true for Walmart in terms of, for Dollar General in terms of the fact that, you know, people are more squeezed, everyone at different income stress is starting to move down.
Speaker BSo people that want same day delivery or want to leverage Dollar General for even cheaper options but get the same day delivery benefits or even less delivery depending on how they do it again could potentially gravitate downward.
Speaker BAnd also the other factor here, which Walmart has been, I don't want to say open, but it's been pretty transparent in like how, how it's being talked about anyway is like the reason people are signing up for Walmart plus is many of them don't have to go in a Walmart store.
Speaker BSo if you want to get the value of Dollar General.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BWithout going to Dollar General store because you do happen to make a certain income level but you are feeling the pinch and you don't want to talk about it publicly.
Speaker BThis could have some, some hooks for you too.
Speaker BSo that's where I think those are all the what ifs I think that are really out there when you start drawing the comparison analogies because I think economics shows over time people always gravitate towards the lowest price.
Speaker BSo who's to say there isn't some segment of the population that is monetarily valuable that want same day delivery from the Dollar General prod assortment that lives in its arena every single day.
Speaker AAnd I think that's the big ask because drawing a comparison between DG and Walmart, they're merchandising the brands that are available and the products that they can are very different.
Speaker BI, I heard is the one that's the one hang up.
Speaker ABut that's the stretch.
Speaker BYou got to prove it out with the assortment Right.
Speaker BYou got to prove it out that the assortment provides enough of a hook to make the subscription and the delivery tie ins valuable.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd that's why you pilot it.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo, like, I mean, I think.
Speaker BSo if that.
Speaker BWith that said, Ben, would you definitely warrant a pilot, or would you be, like, so skeptical of the operations that you wouldn't pilot?
Speaker BBecause I think there are some things that if you're skeptical enough, you don't even go pilot stage.
Speaker AI, I, I, I could pilot it, but you would do it.
Speaker ASmall geography, low risk, and you keep it really isolated.
Speaker ABecause the last thing the DG business needs is disruption, just as it's getting the machine going again and just as it's been able to reduce complexity.
Speaker ASo as long as you can prevent the contagion without sounding CFO negative about it.
Speaker AYeah, you run that pilot.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BIt's an interesting point, too, because the other thing that's happening in the background is they have a new CEO coming in, you know, and I want.
Speaker BAnd they've got a new format coming that they're talking about in the same announcement that they talked about the subscription.
Speaker BSo JJ Fleeman's coming in as the CEO as well.
Speaker BSo, like, you wonder how on board he is with this.
Speaker BYou got to think he is, because there's been a long transition period.
Speaker BBut these are big moves, to your point.
Speaker BAnd so do you want them right now?
Speaker BI think those are questions well worth having in the boardroom.